@@Deluxe854 Yeah, XY has been hated in retrospective. People have Black & White in high regards, forgetting they love Black 2 & White 2 and not the original quite as much. They are able to dismiss the backlash it had on release, such as the bold choice of only have new Pokémon to pick, or a third of Generation 5's Pokémon took too much inspiration from Generation 1. The Pokémon design was basically _"Gen 1 but urban instead of wild!"_ I am not going to argue that XY is unfinished. It is. It also over-corrected some of the flaws of Generation 5. The bad XP formula of Generation 5 (scaled and unshared) in hope to prevent 1-2 overleveled Pokémon team required to have a carpet of high level weak Pokémon to maintain a team. Thus the absurd evolution level: do Mienshoo really requires level 50, or Mandibuzz level 54?! It failed so bad, the designer just introduce XP punching bags as Audino on every route to cut the grind. Which lead to Generation 6 bad XP formula: unscaled and share. Basically you can follow the overlevel Pokémon strategy from Gen 1 to 4, but instead it got applied on your whole team. When you add the most extensive base Pokédex to date (430ish non-legendary wild Pokémon) and XP on catch, then the difficulty is absolutely absent when you don't renew your team and catch them all. This has been corrected in Generation 7. Yet, Sun and Moon feels more like 6.5G: the environnement is better made but the 3D Pokémon animation and combat didn't improved. It also made a bold choice of overscripting the progression. If XY is the Mario 64, then SM should be the Sunshine yet... feels more Mario 64 DLC. USUM was the nail: it felt more like New Game + with DLC content, very far from the reimagination of BW to B2W2. This is where the fans really started to research culprit. In the end, XY isn't bad. Just very good despite being incomplete and having obvious flaws. It suffers from not having a third version. In a sense, ORAS is highly regarded despite being Gen6. Would 4th Gen remembered if Platinum didn't step up to fix the latency, the pacing and the bugs? People are hating XY in retrospective because they pinpoint the downfall from here. Yet, XY were an improvement! The downfall came afterward when Gamefreak couldn't follow the tight time constraint with such a small team, which lead to more and more underwhelming and half baked games.
you forgot to mention that a reason why x and y probably felt "unfinished/undercooked" was most likely because of the giant leap to 3d, requiring every old pokemon to also have a model made for them on top of the new pokemon ive never understood why people dislike sun and moon, pokemon fans wanted something new and they got exactly that, seems like another black and white situation, where people hated on release (though i cant argue that z moves werent just a terrible idea) i'll also die on the hill of og RSE being ass compared to ORAS, i think its the best remakes weve ever gotten besides HGSS highly recommend at least replaying through one of the gen 7 games tho
Actually, the models from X and Y are ripped from an old Pokemon app before X and Y where a thing, some animations from Pokemon colosseum where re-used for the current models.
Mega evolution is the coolest mechanic they have introduced since gen 6 in my opinion. it wasnt just making a pokemon bigger or giving them some generic moves, it was redesigning them and improving them
gen 6 is my personal favorite gen, mostly due to the anime, but I'm doing my first ever actual playthrough of it right now as a nuzlocke since I've heard it's mad easy
Personaly I think the ultra games are better than base sun and moon HOWEVER you can only really enjoy if you haven't played the base games before, since its like the same game but with dlc, and considering how damn annoying the entire alolan text wall of hand holding was, can't blame why everybody who played the base game first got pissed off at the ultra games Edit: honestly feels like gen 4 tbh, how diamond and pearl feel kinda a shore to get past the start of the region but platinum fix some issues here and there with banger late game so is an legit better experience overall
To me gen 6 was an over-reaction to the negative feedback from gen 5, remember gen 5 was the worst selling games in the series history and at the time (even though those numbers are good from the video game industry) it was harald as the begining of the end. So many things that now we see in hindsight as positives were regarded as negatives. (Couldn't use your favorite old Pokemon till after the end of the game? STILL using sprites? The exp scaling made it hard to over level.) So much of x&y was an attempt to pander and get older fans that had been lost during 4 & 5 and it worked. The numbers did ungabunga and honestly the ungabunga has not stopped so game freak has learned the lesson of taking the easy way out with a new gimmick and attention on a couple old mons and boom you're making bank. Game freak is continuing to see just how much they can cut and still have people purchase their products and with each generation, (even with the buggy mess that was SV) the consumer continues to buy buy buy
It kind of sucks how after Gen 6, most generations didn’t even give us over 100 new Pokémon. I am not saying that Post-Gen 6 didn’t have its bangers, but it is weird how very little new Pokémon they added over the years.
@@MontyMoleLoreMaster why is that weird? it's a logical development, the more pokemon designs exist the harder it gets to design new ones. especially if you don't want new mons to simply replace the old ones.
Scarlet and Violet is so good, I love all the stories. Everyone talks about the glitches and lag and while that can be frustrating, it doesn’t invalidate how amazing the stories were. I especially relate with Nemona and I hope that future games keep the multiple path thing because I enjoyed having it be more varied in what you do, I especially enjoyed the Star Barrages. I think that if future games will be similar, with maybe less lag and more content(although that may be unlikely, especially the lag) the games will continue to improve. That’s just my opinion though
Well that is the first time I watch a video until the end and then am shocked by the number of views !! Great vidéo really ! I don't know how you ended up on my main page but I am glad you did :D You have a great voice ! I don't know if you necessarily take advices but mine would be to have included more gameplay moments of each game, as you talked about them. Otherwise it was really interesting and I agree with you, let's hope for the best in the future of pokemon games (gen 5 was THE momentum)
nothing will scare or horrify me more than hearing that blasted ghetsis theme, and almost four generations later, we got the most mid or bad evil teams ever to exist ( yes, I'm looking at YOU Team Star and Yell.. ) I miss where villains were.. yknow, villains instead of this slow and lazily slop cocomelon bad guys that just exist like a dora the explorer swiper episode..
Gen 6 is what got me back into the game after skipping BW2, so I’ll look at Kalos fondly for that. I miss Megas but still think those games were mid. I had a lot of fun with Scarlet and have hope moving forward but the idea of the games selling like hotcakes regardless of how good they are is a scary thing
@@PokemonRangerJackson Yeah me too. At this point it’s a question of how much does game freak/TPC respect themselves because they could sell literal shit and we’d all still buy it 😂
For me it started the decline in the middle of Gen 5. Black and White are my favorite games. Black 2 and White 2 though, not so much. However, I liked the games that came out after Black and White more than the games that came out before overall. While I disliked the map layout of B2 & W2 compared to B&W, I liked it more than gens 1, 2, 3 and 4. Same for the map layouts for Gen 6 onward. That means a lot for me as part of the deal is exploring and some of those older generations were bad at it. Don't get me wrong though, I didn't enjoy the straight maps with no deviation either. I just enjoyed them better than the constant needless and oftentimes stupidly done backtracking with no additional content in the previously visited areas. I think it's just that Pokemon was not my first RPG. I wasn't a child when the series came out and had dozens of JRPGs under my belt long before I was ever clued into the existence of Pokemon. So gen 5, Black and White in particular, felt like the most complete RPG experiences. Aside from Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness that is but that's a whole other discussion. Up until Black and White, I don't think Pokemon was even the best "monster collector" game out there. The Dragon Warrior Monsters series and even the Robopon series had far better games. While I haven't played it, I would imagine so was SMT Devil Children. Hell, you might even have to consider the Suikoden series as a "monster collector" as well since 108 characters to get in each game is pretty similar.
Yeah ORAS with a exception for gen 6; but XY was lacking and Sun and Moon missed out of doing a Ver 2 like BW for the new gym system established and new islands and more new pokemon and alolan forms
As a die hard Gen 7 fan I'm waiting every day for in which the Alola games get revaluated in the same way opinions shifted on Gen 5. They were my fist pokemon games so every time people say "Modern Pokemkn has lost his magic" I'm like "But Sun and Moon are right there!!!". In all fairness I will admit that by Gen 14 I'll also probably be disenchanted with the franchise compared to when I first started playing, But that doesn't change the fact that Gen 7 has lots of great things to enjoy (Great Pokemon variety, Good story and an Amazing setting just to name a few) , and I wish people would give it more credit. Sure it also has it's dowsides, the unskipable cutscenes annoy me too, but there is no such thing like a perfect game.
I know you said you'd play all the games since gen 5 again to see if you'd have different feelings about them, but I think you should've made this video after doing that or do this video again after having done that. While I understand and agree with some of the criticisms mentioned, it's difficult to talk about something in retrospect if you don't remember anything about it and your points about Pokemon's faults since Gen 5 would hit a lot harder if it sounded like you thoroughly understood the games since.
I personally think I remembered enough and did enough research before making this, but I agree - I would love to make another video after I replay them...just gotta find the time
I am curious, and i dont mean this in an "old man yells at the clouds" kind of way. But, how old are you? I am basically the same age as pokemon +/- a few months, started the series with Blue and then silver on my gameboy color, and have owned games from every generation, I was so deep into the franchise throughout the 2000s-2010s, and still am today, but that was my childhood. I say all that to point out, that while we call gen 5 a banger/classoc now, theres a reason its "underappreciated". I think we have on a lot of the rose tinted glasses, as at the time it was not well received at all, the fans were already getting tired of the "pokemon formula" and gen 6 was a huge over correction from pokemon. For example, dragon was broken and dominated competitive. So, here comes the shiny and new fairy type, which then proceeded to dominate competitive lol but then ORAS came and it was like holy hell, gen 3 with gen 6 updates, one of the greatest pokemon games ever. A little too hand holding sure, but a modern classic. And, rather unfortunately this was at the time of the social media boom with the new generation of players rolling in as well. I feel like this turned into a bit of a rant... My point being, if you are around my age, a lot of us see the new games as getting worse, but they've always been not great, we just got older, and they started getting made for gen z/alpha, I dont agree with their decision to dumb certain things down, but if you go into it knowing that is how it is, and just like playing pokemon, the new games are fun, way more pokemon with a ton of variety, way, WAY better move sets available (free my boy Sky Uppercut), no HMs, better character models, no everstone haunter. Im glad you're a fan of gen 9 as I agree, its probably the best in a long time, but this is also nearing the end of the switches life, which pokemon historically starts console lifes poor and then gets better later, think D/P vs B2W2. I think they are taking strides, and listening to us all a bit more. And I hope the trends continue and we can all keep enjoying poke.on for ywars to come. Rant over, sorry.
Just in case it gets read this way: I'm not a game freak meat rider, and I know there are issues, trust me I know, saying they have always been not great was more of a "try to have fun and temper expectations a bit" than a "Game freak is S++ tier and do no wrong" sentiment. There are absolutely things they could do better, they are the highest grossing media franchise of all time, I wish they made some more games per generation than feeling the need to pump out new stuff every 3/4 years to fill merchandising cycles, I wish they made the games a bit harder, or just had more challenge mode type options. I'm not a complacent/ ignorant fan. Just realized as I got older that pokemon will probably always be made for kids, and to nit pick it, while often deserved, is more of me getting older and more critical than anything. But who knows, anything can happen. You got a like and some new eyes from me, hope your journey through the gen 6+ games goes well!
I think the worst gen is Gen 8. SwSh felt generic, the entire gen was a mess, all the problems, the dexit thing, people saying that the graphics were terrible. For me, I think that gen 8 was the only really terrible gen. X and Y, Sun and Moon, Scarlet and Violet, all have something charming about them, something memorable, and the SwSh games they just...exist.
Pokémon X was my first real experience with the series and Omega Ruby was when I really started to pick out some of my favorite Pokémon. It’s easily my most played Pokemon game. So Gen 6 does hold a special place for me. I’ve never played USUM but I’ve played through Moon and enjoyed the game. Gen 7 is honestly tied with Gen 3 for having the overall best designed Pokemon in the series in my opinion.
@@PokemonRangerJackson My favorite since the beginning has always been Darkrai. Gen 4 was the most recent generation when I first got into the series and from first sight, Darkrai became an instant favorite.
Title resonates so much with me lol. I dipped after X and Y because of their brain-off gameplay, limited dex, and horrible story. Nothing I saw in Sun and Moon+ beyond peaked my interest and so I thought that I'd just grown out of the franchise... but replaying some of the games on emulators 10 years on and I can confidently say that no, BW/2 was the last competent generation of Pokémon. Haven't played Scarlet and Violet though so I don't know how it shakes up, but if it's anything like Sword and Shield... yikes. Oh well, it'll sell because Pokémon fans will tolerate slop no matter how egregious.
I think what people fail to realize is that older games feel better because of nostalgia. If you actually look objectively at them you'll see there aren't the masterpieces everyone praises. The biggest example are GCS and HGSS, and I'm saying it as someone who's first gen was 4. A very incomplete region with a shallow story that tries to bring back team rocket but fails miserably, because let's be honest their moments in Johto were forgettable. The pokedex of the region is full of baby pokemon, and most of the new mons were spread in the shittiest way possible: with some locked in Kanto post game and others basically at the end, you couldn't even try them, to the point where that feeling of belonging that pokemon have to their original regions disappears, because honestly, when we think about Macgarco we associate with gen 3, not 2. The kanto region is another hollow mess, with again no story whatsoever, wild pokemon with redicously low levels/not even fully evolved, and as usual terribly spread across the routes. And let's not mention the absolutely horryfing level curve. I tried playing Pokemon Crystal after playing Pokemon Soul Silver years ago, and god was it awful. I can't bring myself to keep playing because it takes forever to level up my team to the right number when the wild pokemon are all underlevelled asf. You said that ORAS were lucklaster, but I'd say that HGSS were far more lucklaster when it came to fixing Johto's massive problems (again, level curve, new pokemons unaivalabe until end game). And I don't get what you meant by bringing up that USUM was like replaying SM, that could be said for Emerald and Platinum too but alright. I don't want to sound rude but the points you brought up weren't really convincing. Sure, the newer gens are rushed, but they defintely don't suck. Gen 7 had one of the best story out of all the main series alongside a wonderful villain, a memorable cast, a new formula that finally breaks from the old overused system (kahunas and islands), new pokemons...
Totally see your point and don't necessarily disagree. The emerald/platinum thing is just cuz I remember the distinct differences at the end (sky pillar and distortion world) whereas for USUM I don't really remember the differences besides fusing necrozma - but that's why I mentioned I didn't wanna comment too much on those cuz I genuinely don't remember them as well !
I played pkmn blue, crystal, emerald, leafgreen, platnuim,soulsilver, black, white 2, Y, Alpha Sappire, moon,ultra moon, lets go eevee, sword and (dlc), legend arceus, shining pearl, violet with dlc. And I can say that all games are the best. (completed national Dec in all games and pokedex)
Black and White 2 will always be my favorite games. I’m not quite as fond of the originals even though they were my first games. I honestly do not like any of the Sinnoh games very much. The postgame in particular is not fun. I didn’t like Heart Gold that much either but I played the beginning of the game years before the rest and my team was hot garbage so I’m willing to accept that I should replay those before forming an opinion. For Emerald I also had a hot garbage team so I didn’t really like the game. Might need to replay that too. I enjoy X and Y for being pretty simple to replay and I liked ORAS. Sword and Shield are just really fun despite all their issues and the DLC was peak. PLA’s unique gameplay style truly does make it the best Pokémon game in recent history. Let’s Go Eevee was kind of mediocre but the multiplayer was fun. I liked BDSP the first time but honestly Sinnoh just feels mediocre to me. Probably still better than the Gen 4 versions but the lack of Platinum content stings. Scarlet and Violet also felt mediocre outside of some good Pokémon designs, music, and storylines. Not even the DLC saved it this time. I really liked Crystal (Typhlosion starter) but I’m not sure how much of that was the novelty of seeing how sophisticated Pokémon was even back in the GBC era. I liked Gold less but I picked Feraligatr and his stats were weird. Is the fact I find the games more fun when I have strong Pokémon a bad thing? Gen 1 is fun in a grind-fest teambuilding way but not on the same level as most of the other games. I loved Moon the first time I played it as a kid, mainly because of the story. I didn’t even play Ultra Moon when it came out. The burnout was real. When I did, it felt like mostly the same game but with a worse story and some differences that felt more strange than interesting at the time. Did not enjoy that much despite it having more content than the original. Also need to replay Gen 7 but I’m not sure which to do first (normal or Ultra).
Im 30 and Gen 6 is my first pokemon game. I love it so much I cant hate on it. I see your points about having few legendary pokemon but to me it was the journey that was fun not so much catching the strongest legendary. You talked about rivals and I see what you mean but I saw them more as friends. I do agree that a 3rd game should've been made but at least we're getting a remake.
Mainly story I would say. I thought a lot of the mons were cool, but I think I could say that for every gen. I loved the region in general, it was very fun to explore the open world. I enjoyed the dlc and a lot of the characters were very well done imo. (But also could just be recency bias and im willing to admit that 😅)
I have been playing (and replayed) Pokémon games since Red and Blue came out and I will DEFINITELY tell you that if I had a dollar for every time I heard and/or read articles and threads online that said "*Insert gen game here* sucks" during it's release (Yes, even when Red and Blue came out) only to have the same people retract those statements down the line years later and say they are great games, I'd have enough money to buy GameFreak. Every gen game is unique and have both great and questionable choices. But I will definitely say that everybody, including myself, has a right to have a least favorite. Just don't say a gen is bad during it's release only to change your mind years down the line. That comes off as hypocritical.
@@silverlane6610 peak music, peak region, peak enemy team, peak pokemons. Unlike one game, it made ALL the Pokemon in a new style, and did not create the second part for this. Well, also the 6th generation Pokemon win in quality, not quantity (if you forget about the 50 new forms, which is why there are more new Pokemon in the 6th generation than in some other generations).
@@evillarry9388 At the same time, when the 6th generation is thrown into the mud because of the complexity, for some reason everyone does not go into detail about the fact that the 5th generation, with which it is compared, had different difficulty levels that DO NOT WORK(different levels without stat changes? Wow). And the gym leaders of these generations have the same number of Pokemon, lol.
You conveniently leave out how painfully easy Kalos was. That’s singlehandedly the worst part about that gen and completely eliminates the replay value
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HOW DARE YOU SAY GEN 7 IS BAD!!! ROWLET SLANDER WILL NOT BE TOLERATED 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🦅🦅🦅🦅
It is bro chill
Rowlet is my boy
Golisopod would like to know youe location
Ur not making it out of alola with this one😤😤😤
Pokemon USUM is great
People just don't understand it 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
I feel like people fail to give x and y credit for the quality of its pokedex, like those pokemon were super sick.
Skiddo will always be my GOAT hahaha
Thank you, someone finally giving respect to my boys Quilladin, Aromatisse, Binacle, and Klefki
But u must put respect on Greninjas name
x and y do not deserve the hate ong
@@Deluxe854 Yeah, XY has been hated in retrospective. People have Black & White in high regards, forgetting they love Black 2 & White 2 and not the original quite as much. They are able to dismiss the backlash it had on release, such as the bold choice of only have new Pokémon to pick, or a third of Generation 5's Pokémon took too much inspiration from Generation 1. The Pokémon design was basically _"Gen 1 but urban instead of wild!"_
I am not going to argue that XY is unfinished. It is. It also over-corrected some of the flaws of Generation 5. The bad XP formula of Generation 5 (scaled and unshared) in hope to prevent 1-2 overleveled Pokémon team required to have a carpet of high level weak Pokémon to maintain a team. Thus the absurd evolution level: do Mienshoo really requires level 50, or Mandibuzz level 54?! It failed so bad, the designer just introduce XP punching bags as Audino on every route to cut the grind.
Which lead to Generation 6 bad XP formula: unscaled and share. Basically you can follow the overlevel Pokémon strategy from Gen 1 to 4, but instead it got applied on your whole team. When you add the most extensive base Pokédex to date (430ish non-legendary wild Pokémon) and XP on catch, then the difficulty is absolutely absent when you don't renew your team and catch them all.
This has been corrected in Generation 7. Yet, Sun and Moon feels more like 6.5G: the environnement is better made but the 3D Pokémon animation and combat didn't improved. It also made a bold choice of overscripting the progression. If XY is the Mario 64, then SM should be the Sunshine yet... feels more Mario 64 DLC. USUM was the nail: it felt more like New Game + with DLC content, very far from the reimagination of BW to B2W2. This is where the fans really started to research culprit.
In the end, XY isn't bad. Just very good despite being incomplete and having obvious flaws. It suffers from not having a third version. In a sense, ORAS is highly regarded despite being Gen6. Would 4th Gen remembered if Platinum didn't step up to fix the latency, the pacing and the bugs? People are hating XY in retrospective because they pinpoint the downfall from here. Yet, XY were an improvement! The downfall came afterward when Gamefreak couldn't follow the tight time constraint with such a small team, which lead to more and more underwhelming and half baked games.
you forgot to mention that a reason why x and y probably felt "unfinished/undercooked" was most likely because of the giant leap to 3d, requiring every old pokemon to also have a model made for them on top of the new pokemon
ive never understood why people dislike sun and moon, pokemon fans wanted something new and they got exactly that, seems like another black and white situation, where people hated on release (though i cant argue that z moves werent just a terrible idea)
i'll also die on the hill of og RSE being ass compared to ORAS, i think its the best remakes weve ever gotten besides HGSS
highly recommend at least replaying through one of the gen 7 games tho
Very good point! And will definitely be playing them soon!
@@PokemonRangerJacksoni like the quilava on your pfp
Actually, the models from X and Y are ripped from an old Pokemon app before X and Y where a thing, some animations from Pokemon colosseum where re-used for the current models.
Dude the pacing in sun moon is awful. How can they not just let us roam around the area without stopping us every ten steps. Horrible
@@Dionysos_____Alters bit of an over exaggeration but its only a little bad on the first island, rest of the game is chill
Mega evolution is the coolest mechanic they have introduced since gen 6 in my opinion. it wasnt just making a pokemon bigger or giving them some generic moves, it was redesigning them and improving them
Totally agree !
gen 6 is my personal favorite gen, mostly due to the anime, but I'm doing my first ever actual playthrough of it right now as a nuzlocke since I've heard it's mad easy
Watch out for random trainers, especially around reflection cave and the two surrounding trainers on route 7
Personaly I think the ultra games are better than base sun and moon HOWEVER you can only really enjoy if you haven't played the base games before, since its like the same game but with dlc, and considering how damn annoying the entire alolan text wall of hand holding was, can't blame why everybody who played the base game first got pissed off at the ultra games
Edit: honestly feels like gen 4 tbh, how diamond and pearl feel kinda a shore to get past the start of the region but platinum fix some issues here and there with banger late game so is an legit better experience overall
And they got rid of the lusamine fight in the ultra games, like wth?
You can't be a true fan of RSE and slander ORAS, the remakes had so many QoL upgrades and soooo much fan service
I have so much time played in Omega Ruby. Easily my most played Pokemon game.
Evil fairies that's why.
Going full bubblegum pop probably didn't help things either.
bubblegum pop?
You mean the fairy type?
To me gen 6 was an over-reaction to the negative feedback from gen 5, remember gen 5 was the worst selling games in the series history and at the time (even though those numbers are good from the video game industry) it was harald as the begining of the end.
So many things that now we see in hindsight as positives were regarded as negatives. (Couldn't use your favorite old Pokemon till after the end of the game? STILL using sprites? The exp scaling made it hard to over level.)
So much of x&y was an attempt to pander and get older fans that had been lost during 4 & 5 and it worked. The numbers did ungabunga and honestly the ungabunga has not stopped so game freak has learned the lesson of taking the easy way out with a new gimmick and attention on a couple old mons and boom you're making bank.
Game freak is continuing to see just how much they can cut and still have people purchase their products and with each generation, (even with the buggy mess that was SV) the consumer continues to buy buy buy
@kidayuki9884 You're not wrong. No matter what they do, I will always buy buy buy (I love NSYNC 🤣)
Junichi Midsuda ain't got nothing on Yogoat Shimomura 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
I completely GTFOed before that, so yeah. I knew they were going to push this to insanity at sun and moon.
Godly remakes Gen 4? Those are literally some of the worst remakes in video game history.
@@KolaTheBear HGSS goated ! I will not accept anything else haha
@@PokemonRangerJackson Oohhh. I thought you meant the remakes of Diamond and Pearl. HGSS is goated.
@@KolaTheBear ohhhhh hell nah, those ones sucked 🤣🤣 I'm with ya
It kind of sucks how after Gen 6, most generations didn’t even give us over 100 new Pokémon. I am not saying that Post-Gen 6 didn’t have its bangers, but it is weird how very little new Pokémon they added over the years.
but the quality of the new pokemon is infinitely better than it was pre gen 6.
@@lennyw7840 Not saying the new Pokémon suck, I was just saying that it is weird how little new Pokémon most later generations have.
@@MontyMoleLoreMaster why is that weird?
it's a logical development, the more pokemon designs exist the harder it gets to design new ones. especially if you don't want new mons to simply replace the old ones.
@@lennyw7840 Fair point I suppose.
@@lennyw7840 and also we had the regional forms, megas, new forms. They "make up" the rest of the pokedex
Scarlet and Violet is so good, I love all the stories. Everyone talks about the glitches and lag and while that can be frustrating, it doesn’t invalidate how amazing the stories were. I especially relate with Nemona and I hope that future games keep the multiple path thing because I enjoyed having it be more varied in what you do, I especially enjoyed the Star Barrages. I think that if future games will be similar, with maybe less lag and more content(although that may be unlikely, especially the lag) the games will continue to improve. That’s just my opinion though
The frame rate was one of the only negatives imo. Hoping for future improvement!
Pokemon X's ending made me cry. I will not take the slander
Well that is the first time I watch a video until the end and then am shocked by the number of views !! Great vidéo really ! I don't know how you ended up on my main page but I am glad you did :D You have a great voice ! I don't know if you necessarily take advices but mine would be to have included more gameplay moments of each game, as you talked about them. Otherwise it was really interesting and I agree with you, let's hope for the best in the future of pokemon games (gen 5 was THE momentum)
Thank you for the kind words! I'm definitely trying to improve with each video!
nothing will scare or horrify me more than hearing that blasted ghetsis theme, and almost four generations later, we got the most mid or bad evil teams ever to exist ( yes, I'm looking at YOU Team Star and Yell.. )
I miss where villains were.. yknow, villains instead of this slow and lazily slop cocomelon bad guys that just exist like a dora the explorer swiper episode..
@villainkaiju no lie I had nightmares of Swiper as a kid soooooo but I totally agree
Is it weird that S&M was my first pokemon game?
Not at all!
Don’t listen to his reply, yes it is weird. Lol
@@TrvisXXIIIhow? Not everyone is a grown man who loves pokemon. Some are teens or children
Gen 6 is what got me back into the game after skipping BW2, so I’ll look at Kalos fondly for that. I miss Megas but still think those games were mid. I had a lot of fun with Scarlet and have hope moving forward but the idea of the games selling like hotcakes regardless of how good they are is a scary thing
They have a stranglehold on so many people (me included)
@@PokemonRangerJackson Yeah me too. At this point it’s a question of how much does game freak/TPC respect themselves because they could sell literal shit and we’d all still buy it 😂
Maybe you should check BW2. They are awesome.
@@jaretco6423 i played BW2 ages ago. I loved it.
@@pedrosegundo8109 i did! once i got back into the series, i got caught up on bw2 and loved it.
Gen 7 was good
At this point genwunning really has evolved into genfiving, hasnt it?
Cant wait until a decade from now when we see geneighting.
For me it started the decline in the middle of Gen 5. Black and White are my favorite games. Black 2 and White 2 though, not so much.
However, I liked the games that came out after Black and White more than the games that came out before overall. While I disliked the map layout of B2 & W2 compared to B&W, I liked it more than gens 1, 2, 3 and 4. Same for the map layouts for Gen 6 onward. That means a lot for me as part of the deal is exploring and some of those older generations were bad at it. Don't get me wrong though, I didn't enjoy the straight maps with no deviation either. I just enjoyed them better than the constant needless and oftentimes stupidly done backtracking with no additional content in the previously visited areas.
I think it's just that Pokemon was not my first RPG. I wasn't a child when the series came out and had dozens of JRPGs under my belt long before I was ever clued into the existence of Pokemon. So gen 5, Black and White in particular, felt like the most complete RPG experiences. Aside from Colosseum and XD: Gale of Darkness that is but that's a whole other discussion.
Up until Black and White, I don't think Pokemon was even the best "monster collector" game out there. The Dragon Warrior Monsters series and even the Robopon series had far better games. While I haven't played it, I would imagine so was SMT Devil Children. Hell, you might even have to consider the Suikoden series as a "monster collector" as well since 108 characters to get in each game is pretty similar.
Yeah ORAS with a exception for gen 6; but XY was lacking and Sun and Moon missed out of doing a Ver 2 like BW for the new gym system established and new islands and more new pokemon and alolan forms
As a die hard Gen 7 fan I'm waiting every day for in which the Alola games get revaluated in the same way opinions shifted on Gen 5. They were my fist pokemon games so every time people say "Modern Pokemkn has lost his magic" I'm like "But Sun and Moon are right there!!!". In all fairness I will admit that by Gen 14 I'll also probably be disenchanted with the franchise compared to when I first started playing, But that doesn't change the fact that Gen 7 has lots of great things to enjoy (Great Pokemon variety, Good story and an Amazing setting just to name a few) , and I wish people would give it more credit. Sure it also has it's dowsides, the unskipable cutscenes annoy me too, but there is no such thing like a perfect game.
Me too
Pokemon legends S/M would be sick
Or pokemon eclipse( remakes)
@@shaunavant532 I'd hand my life savings right over XD
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I know you said you'd play all the games since gen 5 again to see if you'd have different feelings about them, but I think you should've made this video after doing that or do this video again after having done that. While I understand and agree with some of the criticisms mentioned, it's difficult to talk about something in retrospect if you don't remember anything about it and your points about Pokemon's faults since Gen 5 would hit a lot harder if it sounded like you thoroughly understood the games since.
I personally think I remembered enough and did enough research before making this, but I agree - I would love to make another video after I replay them...just gotta find the time
I am curious, and i dont mean this in an "old man yells at the clouds" kind of way. But, how old are you? I am basically the same age as pokemon +/- a few months, started the series with Blue and then silver on my gameboy color, and have owned games from every generation, I was so deep into the franchise throughout the 2000s-2010s, and still am today, but that was my childhood. I say all that to point out, that while we call gen 5 a banger/classoc now, theres a reason its "underappreciated". I think we have on a lot of the rose tinted glasses, as at the time it was not well received at all, the fans were already getting tired of the "pokemon formula" and gen 6 was a huge over correction from pokemon. For example, dragon was broken and dominated competitive. So, here comes the shiny and new fairy type, which then proceeded to dominate competitive lol but then ORAS came and it was like holy hell, gen 3 with gen 6 updates, one of the greatest pokemon games ever. A little too hand holding sure, but a modern classic. And, rather unfortunately this was at the time of the social media boom with the new generation of players rolling in as well. I feel like this turned into a bit of a rant... My point being, if you are around my age, a lot of us see the new games as getting worse, but they've always been not great, we just got older, and they started getting made for gen z/alpha, I dont agree with their decision to dumb certain things down, but if you go into it knowing that is how it is, and just like playing pokemon, the new games are fun, way more pokemon with a ton of variety, way, WAY better move sets available (free my boy Sky Uppercut), no HMs, better character models, no everstone haunter. Im glad you're a fan of gen 9 as I agree, its probably the best in a long time, but this is also nearing the end of the switches life, which pokemon historically starts console lifes poor and then gets better later, think D/P vs B2W2. I think they are taking strides, and listening to us all a bit more. And I hope the trends continue and we can all keep enjoying poke.on for ywars to come. Rant over, sorry.
Just in case it gets read this way: I'm not a game freak meat rider, and I know there are issues, trust me I know, saying they have always been not great was more of a "try to have fun and temper expectations a bit" than a "Game freak is S++ tier and do no wrong" sentiment. There are absolutely things they could do better, they are the highest grossing media franchise of all time, I wish they made some more games per generation than feeling the need to pump out new stuff every 3/4 years to fill merchandising cycles, I wish they made the games a bit harder, or just had more challenge mode type options. I'm not a complacent/ ignorant fan. Just realized as I got older that pokemon will probably always be made for kids, and to nit pick it, while often deserved, is more of me getting older and more critical than anything. But who knows, anything can happen. You got a like and some new eyes from me, hope your journey through the gen 6+ games goes well!
I think the worst gen is Gen 8. SwSh felt generic, the entire gen was a mess, all the problems, the dexit thing, people saying that the graphics were terrible. For me, I think that gen 8 was the only really terrible gen. X and Y, Sun and Moon, Scarlet and Violet, all have something charming about them, something memorable, and the SwSh games they just...exist.
Agree. At least Faba and Maxie are a thing
Pokémon X was my first real experience with the series and Omega Ruby was when I really started to pick out some of my favorite Pokémon. It’s easily my most played Pokemon game. So Gen 6 does hold a special place for me. I’ve never played USUM but I’ve played through Moon and enjoyed the game. Gen 7 is honestly tied with Gen 3 for having the overall best designed Pokemon in the series in my opinion.
There are some bangers in every gen, what's your favorite design?
@@PokemonRangerJackson My favorite since the beginning has always been Darkrai. Gen 4 was the most recent generation when I first got into the series and from first sight, Darkrai became an instant favorite.
But... but Alolan Raichu...
Title resonates so much with me lol. I dipped after X and Y because of their brain-off gameplay, limited dex, and horrible story. Nothing I saw in Sun and Moon+ beyond peaked my interest and so I thought that I'd just grown out of the franchise... but replaying some of the games on emulators 10 years on and I can confidently say that no, BW/2 was the last competent generation of Pokémon. Haven't played Scarlet and Violet though so I don't know how it shakes up, but if it's anything like Sword and Shield... yikes. Oh well, it'll sell because Pokémon fans will tolerate slop no matter how egregious.
You out here doing Arceus' work fam 🦌🙏
ORAS Slander will not be tolerated! ( Emerald is still better imo lol)
I think what people fail to realize is that older games feel better because of nostalgia. If you actually look objectively at them you'll see there aren't the masterpieces everyone praises. The biggest example are GCS and HGSS, and I'm saying it as someone who's first gen was 4. A very incomplete region with a shallow story that tries to bring back team rocket but fails miserably, because let's be honest their moments in Johto were forgettable. The pokedex of the region is full of baby pokemon, and most of the new mons were spread in the shittiest way possible: with some locked in Kanto post game and others basically at the end, you couldn't even try them, to the point where that feeling of belonging that pokemon have to their original regions disappears, because honestly, when we think about Macgarco we associate with gen 3, not 2. The kanto region is another hollow mess, with again no story whatsoever, wild pokemon with redicously low levels/not even fully evolved, and as usual terribly spread across the routes. And let's not mention the absolutely horryfing level curve. I tried playing Pokemon Crystal after playing Pokemon Soul Silver years ago, and god was it awful. I can't bring myself to keep playing because it takes forever to level up my team to the right number when the wild pokemon are all underlevelled asf. You said that ORAS were lucklaster, but I'd say that HGSS were far more lucklaster when it came to fixing Johto's massive problems (again, level curve, new pokemons unaivalabe until end game). And I don't get what you meant by bringing up that USUM was like replaying SM, that could be said for Emerald and Platinum too but alright. I don't want to sound rude but the points you brought up weren't really convincing. Sure, the newer gens are rushed, but they defintely don't suck. Gen 7 had one of the best story out of all the main series alongside a wonderful villain, a memorable cast, a new formula that finally breaks from the old overused system (kahunas and islands), new pokemons...
Totally see your point and don't necessarily disagree. The emerald/platinum thing is just cuz I remember the distinct differences at the end (sky pillar and distortion world) whereas for USUM I don't really remember the differences besides fusing necrozma - but that's why I mentioned I didn't wanna comment too much on those cuz I genuinely don't remember them as well !
I played pkmn blue, crystal, emerald, leafgreen, platnuim,soulsilver, black, white 2, Y, Alpha Sappire, moon,ultra moon, lets go eevee, sword and (dlc), legend arceus, shining pearl, violet with dlc. And I can say that all games are the best. (completed national Dec in all games and pokedex)
Play through?
Very soon !
Fingers crossed Legends ZA makes up for the disaster X and Y we're
I have faith!
Black and White 2 will always be my favorite games. I’m not quite as fond of the originals even though they were my first games. I honestly do not like any of the Sinnoh games very much. The postgame in particular is not fun. I didn’t like Heart Gold that much either but I played the beginning of the game years before the rest and my team was hot garbage so I’m willing to accept that I should replay those before forming an opinion. For Emerald I also had a hot garbage team so I didn’t really like the game. Might need to replay that too. I enjoy X and Y for being pretty simple to replay and I liked ORAS. Sword and Shield are just really fun despite all their issues and the DLC was peak. PLA’s unique gameplay style truly does make it the best Pokémon game in recent history. Let’s Go Eevee was kind of mediocre but the multiplayer was fun. I liked BDSP the first time but honestly Sinnoh just feels mediocre to me. Probably still better than the Gen 4 versions but the lack of Platinum content stings. Scarlet and Violet also felt mediocre outside of some good Pokémon designs, music, and storylines. Not even the DLC saved it this time. I really liked Crystal (Typhlosion starter) but I’m not sure how much of that was the novelty of seeing how sophisticated Pokémon was even back in the GBC era. I liked Gold less but I picked Feraligatr and his stats were weird. Is the fact I find the games more fun when I have strong Pokémon a bad thing? Gen 1 is fun in a grind-fest teambuilding way but not on the same level as most of the other games. I loved Moon the first time I played it as a kid, mainly because of the story. I didn’t even play Ultra Moon when it came out. The burnout was real. When I did, it felt like mostly the same game but with a worse story and some differences that felt more strange than interesting at the time. Did not enjoy that much despite it having more content than the original. Also need to replay Gen 7 but I’m not sure which to do first (normal or Ultra).
if only oras was made using gen 5’s assets
Poor Fennekin 😔
@@AceTrainerAngie the starters aren't too bad !
Nah gen 8 is the WORST game
Sun and moon are peak 3ds pokemon
Is this pin of shame? Or of approval?
Heavy disagree
@kieranpleaseforgiveme cool, did you have anything else to add, or can I go now, KIERAN
@@shaunavant532 I feel honored to be given such a wonderful name!
@@kieranpleaseforgiveme I bet carmine doesn't
My favorite pokemon game: *g e n 8*
Im 30 and Gen 6 is my first pokemon game. I love it so much I cant hate on it. I see your points about having few legendary pokemon but to me it was the journey that was fun not so much catching the strongest legendary. You talked about rivals and I see what you mean but I saw them more as friends. I do agree that a 3rd game should've been made but at least we're getting a remake.
I totally get it ! It's different for everybody!
I hate gen seven because of incineroar, yet I also love gen seven because of golisopod
Hey could you explain why do you think that gen 9 is better than 6/7/8? Is it the story? Gameplay? Open world? New Pokèmon?
Mainly story I would say. I thought a lot of the mons were cool, but I think I could say that for every gen. I loved the region in general, it was very fun to explore the open world. I enjoyed the dlc and a lot of the characters were very well done imo. (But also could just be recency bias and im willing to admit that 😅)
I have been playing (and replayed) Pokémon games since Red and Blue came out and I will DEFINITELY tell you that if I had a dollar for every time I heard and/or read articles and threads online that said "*Insert gen game here* sucks" during it's release (Yes, even when Red and Blue came out) only to have the same people retract those statements down the line years later and say they are great games, I'd have enough money to buy GameFreak. Every gen game is unique and have both great and questionable choices.
But I will definitely say that everybody, including myself, has a right to have a least favorite. Just don't say a gen is bad during it's release only to change your mind years down the line. That comes off as hypocritical.
Gen 7 is when they went crazy with cutscenes 10 minutes of cutscenes before you even picked you starters is bad
Pokemon X&Y is still the best games in the franchise.
Mega-Evolution is nice. Change clothes (introduced there) is nice. Thats it. X&Y is not peak Pokemon.
>X&Y are the best games
>Refuses to elaborates
Why do gen 6 meat riders do this?
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@@silverlane6610 peak music, peak region, peak enemy team, peak pokemons. Unlike one game, it made ALL the Pokemon in a new style, and did not create the second part for this. Well, also the 6th generation Pokemon win in quality, not quantity (if you forget about the 50 new forms, which is why there are more new Pokemon in the 6th generation than in some other generations).
@@evillarry9388 At the same time, when the 6th generation is thrown into the mud because of the complexity, for some reason everyone does not go into detail about the fact that the 5th generation, with which it is compared, had different difficulty levels that DO NOT WORK(different levels without stat changes? Wow). And the gym leaders of these generations have the same number of Pokemon, lol.
You conveniently leave out how painfully easy Kalos was. That’s singlehandedly the worst part about that gen and completely eliminates the replay value
Gen 7 was way worse to replay