If Gamefreak were completely honest...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2023
- Game Freak has COMPLETELY dropped the ball on Pokemon... Or have they?
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Honestly that was just another reason to like Iwata. What a guy, my guy really walked down from his presidential floor and said “fine, I’ll do it myself” and then carried the f out of Pokémon like it was simply a side quest. Iwata the legend 👏
I doubt even if Iwata still alive today, Pokemon will still suck, I mean he still alive back when Pokemon X and Y and he help develop 3DS console, console who to overprice when launch specially for handheld market, well at least he cut his own salary when 3DS and Wii U failed to help pay Nintendo employee.
Iwata wasn't president at the time, he was a new programmer and was passionate about code efficiency.
He also helped with Super Smash Bros Melee's code at one point.
@@cptncutleg Iwata’s programming wasn’t why they were able to include Kanto, gen 2 originally had almost the entirety of Japan as its region. Yes really, it was super compressed, Kanto is just one town. Someone investigated what Iwata really did, going to post an excerpt and you can find the rest of the post and its sources by using a search engine.
"Well, I looked into it and I am here to tell you that not only is the aforementioned mostly made up, the compression algorithm used in Gen 2 actually took up more space. While Iwata did indeed write the compression for Gen 2, but it wasn't for the reason you think."
I heard about that, what his algorithm actually did was speed up the loading times for the battles start/end, it was still a great feat.
More people need to know about this kind of stuff. Every time I try to explain this to them they tell me I'm lying or exaggerating or whatever else the excuse is. But this has all been known information for such a long time. Gamefreak is not given the resources or time to make good games and moreover they don't WANT to make Pokemon games. It's time for Nintendo to fully acquire the franchise and shift development to someone else who will treat it with care and give it the same level of Nintendo polish and investment that you see with things like Mario or Zelda.
It’s exactly what i want, i just want Nintendo take the full control of the franchise and do good games with it. If TPC really want new gen games each 3 years it’s possible. But only if you have 2 big teams and you let them working 6 years on each games. For exemple team A release à game in 2026 for 30 anniverssary and 10G symbol but , now actually in 2023 you put on the road the B team for 2029 for 11G , since 2026 the A team work for the 12G for 2032. Everybody would be winner in this case.
This is actually very good and informative, but I’m still upset with the quality of the newer games but the mystery dungeon games I love dearly have gotten the worse of it the games that released nearly 10 years ago are better then the new one
When Sword and Shield came out there was a bigger outcry for handing off the duty of making core Pokémon titles to another studio and there was a big pushback against the idea by a bunch of GF apologists that must’ve been children. Imagine forming a parasocial relationship with a faceless billion dollar studio that’s giving you what looks and plays like a budget product at the price of a AAA game.
@@protocetid I don't understand the apologists' line of thinking at all. And the problem is now that people will point to the mess that ILCA made with BDSP and hold it up as an example of what happens when GF isn't in charge. When instead it should be an example of what a mess their systems are that another studio can't step in in such a short time frame and make an acceptable quality product with what they're given.
Give any studio a reasonable development time that suits the scope of the game and things will start improving whether its GF behind the wheel or not.
@@Zynnix GF outsourcing a game right after the GF fanchildren gave so many bad reasons for why mainline Pokémon should not be given to another developer makes me laugh. Plenty of outside studios have made Pokémon games that look like they had real care and money put into them, gen 4 remakes being subpar is far from enough of evidence that GF is the only choice. But the fanchildren tune them out because it doesn’t suit their narrative, that’s your brain on parasocial relationships. Don’t forget the budget they allocate for Pokémon has to be small to maximize margins and that’s why the games look like they can run on a phone.
Thank you all for the support and kind words. We've all missed this for a long time. ❤️
-James (John Smith).
Hey! Welcome back man!
4:33 I'd like to clarify an error, here. Creatures is still a *massive* force in The Pokémon Company. Not only do they still manage the merchandising of the franchise (which garners the majority of revenue for Pokémon), they also still handle modeling for the main games. They were even the developers for Detective Pikachu Returns. If anything, Creatures Inc is the sole Mommy of TPC.
That Veporeon joke hit me outta nowhere and I loved it.
7:30 and I’ve suddenly just realized that more than half of the generations of Pokémon will no longer have connectivity to the current games once Pokémon Bank’s servers shut down…
They’re really gonna have to remake gen ii and iii or have a game like Legends for each region so that you can catch every Pokémon of a region in a single game without trades or anything.
Its such a breath of fresh air that an "honest pokemon video" went the "We at Gamefreak are in over our heads!" route instead of the "We're not even trying. You guys will buy a shit game anyway" route.
The thing is, both routes are correct, depending on where you're looking. The rank-and-file developers are in over their heads, while those in decision-making positions don't give a shit because they know people will spend millions of dollars on turds with Pikachu's face slapped on.
it's both. Recently you can find some of the employees thoughts on the company and games. Some of it is genuinely lack of time, money, and other resources. Some of it is also genuinely "we can skate by since it sells well enough, no need for other skills either as this job is enough to boost a resume" and shit like that. it's so fucked.
I don't think that's them trying to be in over their heads so much it is "God we're so rushed and our technology is so behind and we're so tired but hey at least our suffering will still make mad cash in the end". Many of them feel stagnated and that there's a huge skill gap between regular staff and outsourcing staff. That's why they say "it'll sell well anyway"@@lillith7257
Stop cursing its a sin dude
@@aethix1986stop cursing its a sin dude
Not to mention Scarlet/Violet were in development during covid lockdown, so this may have affected the quality of the games. While Legends Arceus barely dodged the pandemic.
I was expecting to watch a parody joke video of some Nintendo rep freaking out and having a breakdown, of something like that. But damn, this was way better. Informative, entertaining, and serious in a way where you can see the humor, but still appreciate the facts being presented. Very well done.
How much you’re worth and how much money a company has are 2 different things.
Ahhh and there it is, the virtual console. Where we have to continually replay the older games on a new generation console to transfer the data instead of going up a bit to throw them into Pokemon home.
"Keep rebuying the same games -suckers- valued customers!"
-GF (probably)
the worst part about his analogy is he's being absolutely generous in saying that they had 3 years to develop scarlet and violet. because lets not forget that there was a dedicated team to frequent patching of SwSh after its release and for its 2 DLCs that it released. it would be more realistic to say that they had around 1.5-2 years to actually work on the game, or at least fully dedicate to Scarlet and violet. so imagine your tasked with creating the next line of games legends: arceus and scarlet/violet in a two year time frame. you have to split up your teams and dedicate half of your already small team to both projects and hope that one of them succeeds. so you have a fraction of the people who worked on games like mario odyssey and mario wonder and tears of the kingdom and you have half the time to work on it, oh and your working with half the budget of those games (because despite being the largest media franchise in the world you cannot dedicate any money to your flagship games). its a miracle that the games were even playable at launch.
This is a fun little video, leaves me with a big question: Why?
“We aren’t exactly a triple A studio” This is the largest grossing franchise in the world. Why has it not been moved to a bigger, more capable studio or why hasn’t Game Freak evolved into a bigger more capable studio that can handle these games? You’d think Nintendo & the TPC would want to put a lot into this franchise to make it the best it could be.
The answer is simple. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Pokemon will sell 10s of millions of copies regardless simply due to the brand name attached to the game. Look at Scarlet and Violet. Those games launched in a laughably bad and embarrassing state, and yet they still went on to sell more than 20 million copies.
Why would The Pokemon Company want to hire more people and give out more resources and time, if the games will still sell gangbusters regardless?
I'm sure the people making the games want the games to be as good as they can be, but they aren't being given the time and resources to do so by upper management. They HAVE to get the next generation of Pokemon out in 3 years so they can put out the new anime, and most importantly, put out new merchandise. This is where Pokemon really makes its money. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the highers only see the games as the vehicle through which they introduce new Pokemon every 3 years and nothing more.
5:38 Legends Arceus is not an Open World game. It is an Open Zone game, like Monster Hunter, Mario Odyssey, and Sonic Frontiers.
Man I just wish Ganefreak would just take a 2-3 year long break from Pokemon
Ahahaha loved the Vaporen copypasta's reference
I missed this series so much. Good stuff.
I feel really bad and scared for the franchise because everything in this video is 100%
This dude is like Rowan Atkinson if he sounded like Tobey Maguire 😂
I’ve always loved this series for ribbing on the “big boys” but they truly are correct here. GF is locked in a 3 year dev cycle(when other companies are given 4-6) all due to the anime schedule.
They can just hire more employees, if they wanted pokemon could have yearly releases with 6 years of dev time each, just get 6 teams and offset each by 1 year
nice seeing this series again
Don't forget them returning too many Kanto pokemon, Kalos needs more love
Kalos ain’t bringing any money buddy
Mega evolution?
@@TotallyAtopiaYTOnly Greninja sells well ngl
@@Caleebo1826facts
This aged good
As a Mega Man fan, I understand completely!
That was the best example they could possibly give tbh
He used MMZ4 despite being a solid entry, also the drought we MM fans are going through almost makes the sequel spam of the 2000s look good, almost.
We are not, even getting games, god we are so lucky if we get mega man x9 at least or another 3D Megaman.
there should really be some sort of public petition adressed to the pokemon company to stop the stuppid 3 year cycle. good games can't be made that quickly. and nobody needs them every 3 years! god damn, we can wait
Game Freak nowadays doesn't care for the technical aspect of the games, only the artistical. And why would they? The games sell anyways. That's the honest opinion from Game Freak. The seniors don't want to lear new technology, which is why Sword and Shield looked like 3DS titles. ScarVi were the ones with normal maps and metal shaders, despite the fact that these rendering techniques are a thing for decades.
People keep saying just give the main series to other company. But ILCA did it but why did it turned out bad. Even aiLCA themselves are baffled that the game turned out how it is they had ideas to rework those games.
The reason why it turned out how it is, is because that's what the higher ups want. So it's not the just the team but the head of company and developer.
Ok but ILCA is/was a supporting developer. They helped make aspects of a video game not the whole thing...
Never knew that about Kanto and Johto. Pokemon Crystal is still my favorite game though :)
Because it's not (entirely) true. It's an Internet urban legend that was widespread after his death, but isn't very accurate.
Iwata-san did help out programming the game, but it wasn't like he just suddenly compressed the whole game down to nothing.
It wasn’t the full kanto map. It was part of it to make players of blue and red feel some continuity. The original protagonist is the final boss of that map
@@McZachary44 I know, I lived through that
I thought the Megaman Battlenetwork games were pretty cool in the early 2000s.
They were, but when you look at how many Mega Man games were being pumped out, it's no wonder they hit franchise fatigue by like, 2007? 2008? I think I counted 15 games just between 2003 and 2005 (and that's including multi version releases like with BN3 and beyond).
Oh OK. I never really looked into the other ones since I wasn't very good at the traditional Megaman games. So I just stuck w/ Battlenetwork since it was different from the other franchise.
That's totally fair! It's a very good stand-alone series (even if you don't play it's sequel series, Star Force, which I've heard very good things about).
I love that Capcom tried new things, but they were just throwing too much at us all at once.
bn4 killed the franchise because it was so bad
Yeah they only really messed up in BN4
iwata's compression algorithm actually took more space up, the advantage was, instead, that it was faster, hence why battles start faster in gen 2
6:48 THAT DIG AT MEGA MAN
15 GAMES FROM SUB SERIES THAT DID NOT EXIST IN THE 00s *BEFORE PAIRED GAMES*
ADD ANOTHER 6-8 GAMES (depending on region and maybe you want to think the MM64 and Legends are not the same game) FROM THE SERIES THAT CAME BEFORE THE 00s
I have been waiting for this for a damned long while!
I have one only one word
To say *BRAVISSIMO*
I'm a big Mega Man fan, so when I saw the script and how they are wanting to make pokemon more of a yearly release, my brain instantly thought, "oh God no, it's 00s Mega Man all over again!!!"
-James
@@TNGfan8794 funny thing is, Im a Mega Man fan who came into the series on 21…
The Mega Man games in the 00s suffered from Mega Man over saturation… Star Force as a Whole is a superb series
Exactly! I've been playing them since the NES games and I definitely felt the burnout. I never even touched the Zero/ZX series until much later in life, and I still haven't played Star Force.
honestly the megaman games only suffered from too many being released, but unlike pokemon, they all had way more polish and heart into them. starforce, battle network, zero, x, and zx are all amazing, starforce is still my fav all time game series
Yeah, the Team should get a lot more People involved, at least 10 People for Moving the Pokémon to the New System, and after witnessing the Horrible Menu-Glitches in Raids, 20 People on Network-Code, 10 More People working on the Map, adding stuff, where it needs it, and then at least 10 more for the Engine.
With that done, the Team could concentrate on the Core parts of the new Game, and new Pokemon/Evolutions.
Challenge for the comments section:
How many pokemon can you find in this video? (Specifically on the set, not in the pictures that Ian added in post).
-James (John Smith)
About 23 pokemon
Marill, Squirtle, Charmander, Sobble, Bulbasaur, Wooloo, Umbreon, Froakie, Scorbunny, Grookey, Rowlet, Pikachu, Mudkip, Rookidee, Tepig, Totodile, Treecko, Piplup, Popplio, Eevee, Vaporeon, Fletchling.
Ishihara: "We don't add a selection of difficulty to the games because of course players don't want that."
Every Pokémon player ever without exception: "Let's just nuzzlocke this boring game"
They never blame themselves for anything, it’s always the customers who don’t want the cool stuff that means more work for them. Do they really think we will fall for such blatant lies?
6:53 hey zero zx and star force are great, everyone was too stupid to notice back then
...almost like gen 5
I decided to make another comment because the satire here for the line "the Pokémon games are fun" and "the connectivity is what makes our game sell so well" are both bullshit. Why Pokémon sell well has absolutely nothing to do with the games. Legit, get rid of the games and Pokémon would still make as much money as they do now, because the games are absolutely worthless. They are NOT fun and the only thing that makes them sell as well is because of the Pokémon name. While the first few games were novels and did help kick start the Pokémon franchise success, it was quickly overtaken by the merch and anime and everything else side. The games are the least profitable part of the business. Frankly, as someone said, Pokémon could take a few years off and nothing will happen to their bottomline but the only reason they don't do so is because squeezing every last dime.
Oh, you mean the anime which has been very mishandled ever since the covid break to the point were they had to make multiple breaks in the middle of the BIGGEST tournament of the whole storyline? The anime which hasn't been in the top viewed japanese shows for years outside of the HUGE event that was Ash's battle against Leon? The anime that barely adapt game content, and ended up starting it's 9th gen season (that is kind of a reboot that was barely marketed by TPCi) months after Scarlet and Violet? The anime that hasn't gotten any new movies in years because they don't sell anymore? Yeah, right, you guys really should stop making up stuff about how important the anime that you haven't watched for 20 years is for the franchise, because it has been bullshit for years. When a Pokemon game gets delayed they just make up filler (see the Orange Islands, Battle Frontier, Delcora Adventures), that's all.
And for the love of god you guys need to stop that narrative that the Pokemon games aren't fun lol, if people only bought them out of nostalgia each game wouldn't outsell the next one. They would fail at bringing out new fans. The games are a glitchy mess that don't have enough content and are really impolished, yeah, but saying that they aren't fun? That's just bullshit
@@NintenSegaPlay Both of you are wrong; it's neither the games nor the anime that have the most influence, but merchandise. The games merely kickstart new batches of Pokemon to make merch off of, and the anime is then used to push certain Pokemon forward so they can sell more merch of those specific Pokemon.
I disagree with OP that Pokémon games ain't fun. The core formula is pretty simple and fun, it just needs the right added QoL to keep up with the times; but for that to happen, they need the extra time and ressources, which is why HGSS and B2W2 are so beloved (because since the region is mostly already fully made, they can focus their efforts on making changes to not make them as dated while adding new content to make these entries still feel fresh). However, it remains to now that the core formula is so barely modified from its inception, it has become stale, and every attempt to renovate it ends up being a one-time only occurrence that is lucky to appear twice. Even Legends's catching mechanics ended up mostly dropped in SV.
@@NintenSegaPlay Nope. The games aren't fun. No matter how much you wished it was. How it sells so much is literally due to the name Pokemon.
Also, yeah, the anime was mishandled but it is still profitable. I would argue more so then the games and most importantly, it does a way better job of advertising Pokemon then the games due to one simple reason, it is FREE for consumers. You have no price entry gating off the experience for the norrmies who don't play games. It's how the normies get converted into Pokemon diehards.
@@extremmefan7305 I never said ONLY anime. I said anime and EVERYTHING ELSE. The reason I bring up the anime is because it does a hell of a better job marketing Pokemon then the game does. Why? It's because it is FREE. It is FREE for the general public, who can tune in at any time or point they want, and with that plus advertising on that time slot, you have a product which rakes in money while advertising the Pokemon products like hell.
@@cttommy73 That is... essentially what I said, with a few extra added points. Merch is still what makes the entire franchise run, the anime is merely used to promote new Pokemon in an attempt to sell more varied merch (it mostly fails but keeps going until it hits that one extra sweetspot sometimes; more often than not, people already have the same few favorites, most of which are from Kanto due to the impact of the original games AND anime season, which is why Pikachu is still the mascot even after they dropped Ash and is thus still the one that sells the most merch by FAR. And with no movies in sight, the chances of having another Lucario are rather slim, despite some relative successes with Greninja and somewhat Cinderace afaik).
Is the inclusion of Kanto the reason why Johto's gym leaders are mostly trash that barely use any Johto Pokémon, many Johto pokemon were relegated to the post game, the encounter rate for some if them is so rare, levels are so Low especially in the Kanto portion, and many Johto Pokemon were trash stat and movepool wise?
The reason most Johto leaders don't use Johto Pokémon isn't because of this specifically. The idea was for gen 2 to be the entirety of Pokémon, there wasn't supposed to be a divide between Pokémon found in different regions.
The issue is that it wasn't actually corrected in the remakes.
@@hyperdir well hgss did allow you to get them a earlier thanks to the safari zone but I think they could have included them earlier and in the OGs they could have prioritized the new ones seeing as how people would more likely wanna try new mons over using the previous ones.
what other youtube videos was this guy in?
Our old channel, Gaming Wildlife had him in many videos. If Sony were honest, If Capcom were honest, If E3 were honest... He's done a few big videos on the old channel.
@@GeeksWelcomeYT thank you
3:40 Oh, that kinda aged... well, not poorly. It's just very funny.
Pokemon NEEDS a flop to save itself at this point. But Pokemon fans are the worst at buying anything with a Pokemon logo on it, so it won't happen unless the Switch 2 itself flops like the Wii U. It's a sad state of affairs for Pokemon fans who want to see this franchise reach it's full potential.
Ironically, Pokemon fans are kinda terrible at buying stuff that aren't mainline releases. They easily disregard spinoffs because, as is, they barely have time to enjoy them alongside the maingames.
It feels like the nonmobile spinoffs are mainly bought by either dedicated existing fans who already gave up on the mainline series (and that's often the majority), or people outside the fandom (and thus also don't necessarily keep up with mainline releases) just seeing a game with the Pokemon logo and assuming "that's a Pokemon game" (which, they're not wrong per se).
Even in the mobile scene, I wouldn't be surprised if games like Masters were only really sustained by only REALLY dedicated fans. Pokemon Go obviously being the exception.
The weird thing is Pokémon fans not only buy every new mainline game that releases, but they also vehemently defend every single glaring flaw you can point out. They're huffing astronomical amounts of copium to convince themselves these games are actually good.
Any other fandom will recognize when their series hits a low point or releases a real stinker and act accordingly.
Someone send this to Joe Merrick
Funny thing is, they actually are honest with us - just look up their interviews.
I couldn't get through black and white. They gave me motion sickness
I feel bad for Little Town Hero, there was something there but sadly the ideas didn't work that well.
Three years?
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA!
Try 9 months to a year now for annual releases!
They are in way over there heads!
141 total employees split into 3-ish teams.
Quarter of a AAA budget.
Tech a generation behind.
30 mill budget if their lucky.
9-12 month dev cycle.
To say they are in over their heads is an understatement!
Battle network and star force were peak megaman
767 subscribers... you're criminally underrated
I knew from the start that Gamefreak wasn't the highest of graphics and best of best game company.
Harmoknight was pretty great but it wasnt worth Pokemon's decline in quality.
FYI Iwata's algorithm didn't help them fit Kanto onto the cartridge, and Gold and Silver were not "just Johto" before Iwata showed up. These were the common consensus for quite a while but we've learned a LOT since then.
Iwata's algorithm actually took up space on the cartridge as opposed to freeing any up, but he apparently wrote it to massively improve loadtimes for things like battle transitions which were pretty slow in gen 1.
Not only that, but gen 2's original map was the ENTIRETY OF JAPAN for some god-forsaken reason, which was so crunched down to fit onto a Game Boy cart that it actively made the game worse. I don't know who made the decision to just do a smaller chunk of Japan (namely Kansai) but it eventually lead to gens 3 and 4 essentially using unused concepts from that gigantic Japan map to represent more of Japan across several games rather than the entire country represented poorly on a little Game Boy cartridge.
this was interesting AND entertaining!
Gamefreak: PLEASE! Keep buying Pokémon because this shot is the only reason we’re still afloat.
You know... Three years to make games like Scarlet and Violet is actually pretty fair.
However, that's only the case if they actually have enough staff with the correct skillsets to actually make the games in the first place. More time wouldn't have saved S/V, you can see that clearly with the new DLC and update actually making the games performance worse, it's simply a lack of talent.
If Disney was half competent they could have easily replaced mickey mouse with baby yoda
I could see that. Realistically Mickey Mouse only clings on to relevance because he's Disney's mascot.
8:33 Genius Sonority too !!!
God, it's so good to see the 100% Honest series again.
And this hits so *TRUE.* Why in the hell does TPC have all the money, yet doesn't give GAME FREAK the time, employees and resources to work with for the next games? Activision has their three CoD developer companies, as well as other studios they own, put serious work into Call of Duty these days that, while some fans do hate CoD, it at least comes out looking far more presentable and content-packed compared to what GAME FREAK's games do.
At this rate, I’m just waiting for Monolith to take over.
If we're all being truly honest with ourselves, it's only a matter of time before GameFreak completely shits the bed one too many times & people start jumping ship.
Anyone that claims otherwise is just huffing ludicrous amounts of copium.
The accuracy of this vid is a lot more proficient than Aura Sphere.
you colud easily half their workload threw a soft reboot my idea was to jam a bunch of similar early-stage Pokemon together and give them a quick redesign so one basic module can be like 6 different pokemon no one really liked
also talking to management about a yearly DLC would also be a good option but that needs management with foresight
I love this video! It's every single thought I've had about the current state of Pokemon all in one package.
Actually, that is sort of a misconception. I remember seeing some TH-camr break down the ownership structure of the Pokémon IP and Nintendo actually have ownership of another company out of the 3 company who owns the Pokémon IP. I forgot which one but based on that, it's actually safe to say that Nintendo has majority ownership over the Pokémon IP. Now, this is just a personal theory, but why Nintendo doesn't do anything to "right" the ship of Pokémon is because it is still selling gangbusters.
Face it, no company, no matter who owns it, will try to "right" a ship consistently selling tens of millions of copies of games and raking in billions with millions of die hard fanboys and fangirls who will defend it like it is their Identity.
Pokémon as a creative product, has been creatively bankrupt and really horrendously handled for years now, and the biggest reason for that, is that upper management is too busy huffing their own farts, thinking that their stupidity is what makes Pokémon sell, but frankly, the only reason Pokémon sell, is because Pokémon has got very marketable products and is constantly advertised. Without the brand name of Pokémon, nothing that the leadership of Gamefreak creates will do anything because they are incompetent.
You forget legends was a well handled gem amongst the rubble. They're not out of good ideas, they're just using the easiest ones.
@@BingBongFairy They are out of care for their biggest franchise because they hate it being the only thing keeping them afloat.
Frankly, if it was JUST Nintendo, I suspect that they at least took notice of how much of a stain on their reputation the state SV launched in was; especially since they were there to see similar disasters (namely, Sonic on two separate occasions, one of which they had to directly help the struggling dev team with an entire engine swap), and also had to basically refund copies of SV itself when it was clear customer satisfaction got SUPER low.
But no, I think it's upper managament on all fronts. Even if Nintendo wanted to change it, upper management of Game Freak (who technically owns 2/3rds of The Pokemon Company now that Creatures was incorporated into them) would likely object because the games still sell well.
The best we can actually hope for is some kind of work environment investigation of the Game Freak studios, instigated by Nintendo after the backlash of SV's launch, but I'm not sure they'd ever go that way either because the games still sell millions anyways and that kind of work environment is apparently common in Japan (even if not in Nintendo's own inhouse teams, who are clearly not afraid to delay the latest Mario or Zelda if it needs more time in the oven).
Edit: there's actually no info on why Creatures Inc was removed from Game Freak's "list of partners" on their websites. The idea that they got incorporated into or otherwise got more closely tied to GF rather than just staying business partners is my speculation, since the company still exists and is still credited in the games to this day, as well as the models of both Pokemon and characters genuinely improving in SV itself (as well as Pokemon animations improving in Legends).
Nah, they have games like arceus, they have ideas, they’re just too lazy to use them. And Nintendo, despite their flaws, care about quality insurance and their image above all else, if they had full control, they wouldn’t let what was at its bones, a great game, Sv that is, be so buggy. They need more employees, than the 156 they still for some reason have. And they need to take more than a year or two to make them.
@@jacksonvoet8312 I would say it's not that they're too lazy to use them; it's that they seem to SEVERELY underestimate the time they need to make those ideas a reality in game.
Nintendo should definitely step up to ensure quality products, but given GF is always full of ideas and trying to execute them (and the one time that would disprove this was when they handed the project to an outsourcing company with a very strict "stay faithful" guideline), I'd say they were never "lazy", just always severely underestimating the programming side of things; they focus on the artistic side first.
I just loved the whole video.
2:24 So... is anyone gonna mention the fact someone named their pokemon "Pedos"?
4:30 got that mixed up a little
The Pokémon Company is owned by GAME FREAK, Creatures Inc., and Nintendo.
i sleep at night knowing all of you are always going to give the games a chance and that i get to have the same fun you did and gamefreak will continue to make games that are unfavorable to you! thank you guys 😊
I mean, if we're being honest, we love the Pokemon games. There's just a lot to make fun of.
@@GeeksWelcomeYT oh hey! glad you think so, yeah i could reason with the backlash at a certain point
@@GeeksWelcomeYT Yeah, Pokemon fans just want to hate the games.
"It will sell anyway"
Gamefreak created, and owns, the Pokémon company 🤨
D: i want to be like Megaman in the early 2000's
I really like your guys content keep it up
8:20 Haha.
I like how I havent touched a game since gen 4.
You've got it backwards, Gamefreak own 1/3 of The Pokemon Company not the other way round. Its why blaming TPC for GF incompetence is hypocritical
So GF could demand more development time and resources and PC would have to capitulate?
@@Ergeniz GF dont even demand development time. Thats the issue. Junichi Masuda, a GF higher up who's directed many pokemon games had said that neither of the other 2 owners of the pokemon company, Nintendo & Creatures inc. ever pressured them to stick to a deadline and its infact them who make the deadlines
@@joychowdhury9270 Interesting
even here, i cannot escape vaporeon
GameFreak: because Nintendo needs to overhaul its policies and the managment or else pokemon is not gonna reach gen 10
They need to give jobs to some of these rom hackers out here, and make a pokemon classics line. Give us games that reuse older assets, and just tell some decent stories.
Agree with a large fraction of the video, bonus points for saying gen 5 looked bad at the time (I still think it does) and for stating the most likely reason they remade Diamond and Pearl instead of Platinum. Businesses love to make decisions based on surface level observations of statistics instead what would make sense and make fans happy, it’s like they don’t realize that not everyone would buy an almost identical game a second time. Doesn’t Nintendo own a third of Pokémon and not GF, is it confirmed that GF doesn’t have more than enough money and doesn’t need to be given any by TPC? I would’ve included that GF’s Pokémon titles look like mobile games, and the budget required for for a smartphone game is minuscule compared to a true AAA game, they must have some big margins! Never forget GF said they’d never cut the National Dex.
There’s a bit more material here, they’re supposedly anonymous reports of what working at GF is like. th-cam.com/video/RCcRrCrOv_I/w-d-xo.html
yeah...
I think regardless of what TemTem could do, or any other monster collector/training/battle game could, they will never beat Pokemon. Because the strenght of the franchise is the Pokemon themselves. That's why every fakemon tries to imitate the artstyles. Pokemon has no real competitors. They are the only one doing what they do at this scale. So they can pretty much do what they want. Since the amount of ressources they input for their projects results in ridicuslously large profits, there is no point in taking the risk to change the recipe. And the games is maybe the tiniest piece of the cake. Pokemon won't change drastically no matter how loud the fans of the games whines.
Yo-kai Watch was the one franchise that managed to beat Pokemon but that was for a single year and only in Japan because Level-5 isn't great at management
I sadly have a bootlicker in my group who swears that GF has a 6 year cycle.
And I don't buy that
And same person also swears up and down Gen 9 has its issues because it was made for the non-existent (he claims canceled) Switch+, and you can't optimize a game down.
TBF, if you have a modded Switch and use the full capability of the base Tegra chip, it runs without any lag or hitches. It does feel like the game was most likely designed with higher specs in mind and they didn't have the resource to optimize it for base Switch.
@@goldmemberpb that's not really a good defense though.
Most people don't mod their shit, and even then, it doesn't excuse the fact TPCI is absolutely cucking GF with the time and not giving them the needed resources
@@tristanalain9239 not saying that excuses the poor performance. It is just a guess as to why SV has this issue. Even LA did not have this level of issue. No pokemon game prior ran this poorly. Say what you will about gamefreak but it would make a lot of sense if they targeted a much better system but had to quickly pivot.
@@goldmemberpb i highly doubt that because they have to plan the development of these games years in advance because of their tight schedule so there would be no time to make a game targeting something they don't know exists yet.
They'd need the development units they're using in their hands long before the development starts. If switch pro or plus Dev units went out it would be in the news for all to see.
So no they weren't targeting any more powerful hardware they're just bad at making large scale open world games. Period.
How does this video only has under 2K views? TH-cam you cowards
It dose seem like they are slowing down. With just the S&V DLC coming out this year and no announcements for any new Pokémon RPG’s yet.
Gamefreak give me rights to Pokémon, NOW.
Give johtonian typhlosion this stats HP 73/Attack 90/ Defense 69/special attack 119/ special defence 73/speed 110
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This was actually a really informative video that doesn't make me hate GameFreak as much anymore; it's the pokemon company that's the problem!
I just hope one day, the main series games get the love they deserve; I'll wait the 5 years for a new game to come out. Just made side games or remakes in the mean time. Please, just take your time.
Kinda agree to all of this
Nice
Very accurate
It will sell anyways
Ok what in tf lmao Timbo the badass elephant… is real. …Wut
If you guys at gamefreak needed help, HIRE AND OR ASK FANS!!!
Game freak should all in on the old school top down graphics and put so much heart and soul in it. And then some of game freak should work with another studio for the open world. The biggest issue with newest games aside every thing else is the style used and the plastic washed out Pokémon it doesn’t feel like a Pokémon anymore. Look up nextomons trailers the over world space feels so much like Pokemon with crammed in creativity
Commenting for the algorithm. Good stuff.
Much appreciated. Thank you! 😀
Yes! Someone who looks at the Pokemon games in a way that isn't designed to make Gamefreak look like greedy supervillains!
That’s not me
"3 Years is not enough time to make games. We have to..."
Yeah, you have to also work at super human speeds in those 3 years or else get called lazy. They seriously need more time to make the games. What it this nonsense?
6:00 well that's not very honest they clearly didn't have time to add much content into the games saying people like their empty maps and 99% A-button mashing gameplay is a stretch
Monolithsoft Pokemon game? Anyone?
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Just make single players' game in give the game for 4 or 5 years add pokemon performance and battle and movie movie making