NASA's Helical Engine and Other Reactionless Drives

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  • Reactionless drives are spacecraft engines that produce thrust without any exhaust. Examples include the Dean drive, GIT thrusters, and EM drives. The latest proposal is the Helical Engine, described in a NASA technical report by David Burns. In this video I discuss the fundamental reason why reactionless drives don't work: They violate Noether's theorem which links spatial translation invariance to conservation of momentum. I then analyze the physics behind the helical engine, and identify the error made in the NASA technical report.
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  • @Goodgu3963
    @Goodgu3963 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This was a great video and a great explanation. I do want to remind you and others though that we do not definitively know the rules that govern our universe. We have written "laws" based on observations we have made, and created formula that match those observations. However our knowledge of how the universe works is constantly evolving. Perhaps no form of reactionless drive will ever exist, perhaps we will find that our current understanding of the universe is flawed, that the laws we have created were based on the limited data our technology was capable of observing, and that our assumptions about what is possible were too limited. Or perhaps we will find a new form of energy, or matter or something completely unique that does not follow the formula that we have made up.
    I believe it's important for humans to continue attempting to develop technology that violates the laws other humans have made up. We can never prove without a doubt that the laws we have written down are absolute. All we can do is continue to believe they are until someone proves them not to be.

    • @PhysicsUnsimplified
      @PhysicsUnsimplified  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Goodgu is right, we don't have perfect understanding or complete knowledge of the laws of physics. So who knows what the future will bring? The real point of this video, which I should have expressed more clearly, is that no one will ever "invent" a reactionless drive based on our current laws of physics. Yet this is what David Burns claims to have done with the helical engine. Likewise for gyroscopic inertial thrusters (GIT). Our current laws of physics tell us that they won't work. Can I prove that they won't work? Of course not, because I don't have a perfect/complete understanding of physics. But to spend time and money investigating these devices is, at best, a horribly inefficient way to make scientific progress. For example: I could throw some wire, rocks, duct tape and sticks into a box, shake them up, and claim I've invented a new unlimited energy source. According to our current understanding of physics, my box won't work. But you can't prove that it won't work because maybe, just maybe, there are some unknown laws of physics that make my box an unlimited energy source. Should I spend time and money throwing things into a box in an attempt to solve the world's energy problems? No, of course not. But this seems to be the game the GIT folks are playing, and I would hate to see Burn's helical engine go down the same misguided path.

    • @alexanderglass2057
      @alexanderglass2057 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@PhysicsUnsimplified with the helical engine I was thinking the logic behind it is it conserves momentum through using the effects of relativity as a method to gain traction against space-time itself, something that has energy consumption an output thrust against an object outside the system. I never thought of it as a reactionless engine/dive but more a form of semi extra dimensional propulsion, something that consumes energy to turn kinetic energy into extra momentum. Of course I come here not having read the paper but instead just having seen a few videos of the basic principles behind it. (I now realize it's kinda dumb to think one could utilize kinetic energy like its a form of potential.)
      So I guess the question I have is is the logic I was using flawed? Is it not possible to gain momentum/speed with a craft traveling over .5 C bouncing a ball between the front and rear walls in such a way energy is consumed? Is there no way with current relativistic physics to create thrust through kinetic energy transferring into phantom mass in an object's frame of reference?

    • @bazoo513
      @bazoo513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "We have written "laws" based on observations we have made, and created formula that match those observations. "
      You seem to have missed the part where the author explains that the conservation of momentum is a _fundamnetal_ consequence of the fact (OK, you may call it assumption) that experiment outcome does not change if performed somewhere else. Similarly, conservation of energy stems form the fact that the experiment will behave the same if we conduct it a bit later. The only _observation_ here is translation invariance in space and time.
      We _wont_ find "a new form of energy, or matter or something completely unique that does not follow the formula that we have made up"; what we _might_ find is some source of energy more potent or easier to exploit than what we know of today, but it will still follow these laws.

    • @thelegendaryblackbeastofar39
      @thelegendaryblackbeastofar39 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@PhysicsUnsimplifiedYou explained it very well! The analogy I like to use for this flawed arguement - "You never know if you never try" - is...
      There is the famous phrase "Give 1 million monkeys 1 million typewriters and they'll eventually type the entire works of William Shakespeare."
      So as a publisher you can certainly invest your time and money in a million monkeys and you'll have a masterpiece, however it is certainly the most inefficient way of going about having a best seller.

    • @yapdog
      @yapdog 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very well said. You beat me to it (by at least a year), but I don't think I could've said it any better. Man's Law is not Nature's Law, just the most rational abstraction that we're currently able to make.

  • @friendryan
    @friendryan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That is for a closed system. You can make reactionless drives that work in an Open system. One that works with Quantum forces that can travel through a closed system. You will see.

  • @pissnotime1894
    @pissnotime1894 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you show how em drive can't work ? It would be very enlightening

  • @HideBuz
    @HideBuz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video is a very simplistic view of the world. What we call law of momentum is but a simple model and abstraction of the world, not taking into account the mass of unknowns of how our reality really works. Science is literally about reinvention thought models over and over again, to find the closest model we can think up. People who are constricted in thought about the laws of what one human mind has thought up, would have never discovered quantum mechanics or even gravity, which are mere theoretical models and that are still mot understood.

  • @dawitteklay7353
    @dawitteklay7353 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this video can you do one on the dean drive why does it seem like it work they built models and they move when is the mistake happening exactly

  • @KommonCents_
    @KommonCents_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Laws can be broken in a simulation 🤯🤯
    Edit: Mildly trolling, love the video 🤙 Just remember the laws are absolute, not our current understanding of them.

    • @s71402san
      @s71402san ปีที่แล้ว

      But we understand the laws of nature well enough.

  • @samg1884
    @samg1884 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I believe it was intended to be used in orbital maneuvers. Imagine that apogee is 200km and perigee is 150 km. Particle shift to the right could occur at 150 km to raise the orbit to, say, 151 km. Then wait to particle shift back to the left until satellite reaches the apogee of the orbit, decreasing it to 199km. This method effectively raises the orbit of a satellite by borrowing from the other end of the orbit. This does not violate the laws of physics.

  • @audegottoeaudegottoe363
    @audegottoeaudegottoe363 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have à wonderful New Year's!/ / thanks

  • @jesserobinson2948
    @jesserobinson2948 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The em drive seems like it may work. Your turning energy into a force.

  • @hexagon-multiverse
    @hexagon-multiverse 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really enjoyed this interesting topic, so clearly explained. I'm still puzzled that a NASA scientist thought the Helical engine would work. Even an average schmuck like me instantly remembered that you can't turn angular momentum into linear momentum.

    • @DamianHallbauer
      @DamianHallbauer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you can do it with a smoke ring and thats how the Oberth manuever works. those laws were proved by Emmy Noether in 1918 and Einsein and Hilbert agreed. Gravity is 2d and it pushes not pulls and this will happen and we desperatly need itwith 8 billion peopl e on this round planet. The cosmos looks flat , becaue we are like a crocodiel with eyes at sea level in a stricly dynamic sense. its complex to grasp but it makes sense and its used. funny that Noehter puts it flat out but people like to limit themsleves to "laws".. its not free energy its cheap energy and its not ballistic it shakes. a kid made one. Hexgon btw is the LIE group that explains teh sysmmetry.. is a packign thing.. SR is not compatible with GR so it needs to be nanotech.. People need to grow and spine get on the moon and try some of this stuff.. we have enough grean and cheap energy to boil the ocean.. better to give the earth a rest and thsi is the way.

  • @luisandraschnik3001
    @luisandraschnik3001 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What do you think about Dr. Charles Buhler and your propellantless propulsion?

  • @GarretKrampe
    @GarretKrampe ปีที่แล้ว

    is Zee the same as Zed ?

  • @owenevans8014
    @owenevans8014 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont really understand this sort of stuff so this may be a stupid question but would it not be possible to accelerate the ions at a fast pace and then shut them down before the point of return? So you have a constant forward flow of ions with nothing propelled backwards?
    If anyone has an answere can you please dumb it down haha

  • @sonnenklang6925
    @sonnenklang6925 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, can someone tell if the fast combined movement trough space we all ride has an relativistic effect on mass and inertia, inertia should be higher in the momentary direction we move and normal 90° to the sides.. my rough calculations showed about 50mg difference for a 70kg person .. thx for proove or disproove of this idea :)

  • @jessstuart7495
    @jessstuart7495 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is NASA publishing things on their website without peer review these days? Thanks for the analysis.

  • @kuyang100
    @kuyang100 ปีที่แล้ว

    The concept was already mentioned by Bikash Kunwar in his Nobel Deity's Planet which was published in 2016 . He explained as:
    Kishan was a scientist in SSO and he had invented a fastest flying object theory. Ship was designed in such a way that the energy could not lose but was changed in one form to another due to which energy was sufficient for the ship to travell long distance on a very long time and there were no other elements in space to loose energy for which required energy was rotated within the ship’s engine. Speed was increased with a continuous strike of light which made ship fast and traveled 15 times faster than of sunlight, elements used on all parts of ship were special and could exist on a very high temperature.

  • @Triring65
    @Triring65 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Concerning conservation of momentum, if we discover a new phenomenon that is not related to momentum/movement but related to stretching/compactification of spacial dimension then conservation of momentum is thrown out the window since the object is not moving but space around it is moving around the object.

  • @mNag
    @mNag 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The EM drive was seeing some small scale thrust in lab settings, and one was launched to space a couple months ago to see for sure. It'll probably be a dud since I haven't heard about it since the launch, but who knows?

  • @user-rl5pr7tw2l
    @user-rl5pr7tw2l 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Momentum is only explained by experimental observations. Inertia, centrifugal "force"...etc. are in fact dynamic space pressures. Static space pressure is gravity for example, what is created by mass, away from them (space curving backwards to the mass or object). Dynamic space pressure is a similar caracteristic happening inside the objects but curving outwards (lot of space inside material). That inside space curving is causing effects in case of accelerations, inertia, centrifugal "force" (centrifugal space pressure, more exact)...etc. Is a possibility to create a closed propulsion, what is NOT without energy input, but is way more efficient than rocket propulsion. Propulsion to move on the fabric of space. In fact rocket (jet) propulsion is in fact using "space pressure", accelerating material ... Possible that Black Holes don't even have inertia or momentum, cause: no internal space in them. They have only statical space pressure ("gravity"). Black Holes move WITH the fabric of space but NOT ON the fabric of space. But that is a different subject all together. (Space physics...)

  • @joshhennen
    @joshhennen ปีที่แล้ว

    How is an isolated system defined? How is such a state achieved in a real experiment?

  • @simonlin9474
    @simonlin9474 ปีที่แล้ว

    for the ion to slow down, it must give energy to the device's shell as heat. this is also energy which increases the mass of the drive therefore slow it down once again. i think the reason of that thing made a thrust is that some of the heat got disposed to the testing device or the surrounding. remenber u cant dispose energy out as heat in vaccum. u can do light but u can just shoot light to thrust at the first place

    • @GarretKrampe
      @GarretKrampe ปีที่แล้ว

      What ? Are you kidding me ? Heat is EM radiation . Tell me that does not travel in space .

    • @simonlin9474
      @simonlin9474 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GarretKrampe heat do travel as EM radiation. but it is such smaller ammount . conduction in atomsphere is much much faster

  • @adambzdak
    @adambzdak ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very nice video (as usual).
    PS. The result from 12:10 I like to derive in a different way. We start with E^2 = p^2 + m^2 (c=1). We take the derivative with respect to time and obtain 2*E*dE/dt = 2*p \dot dp/dt. dp/dt is a force, E = gamma*m*c^2, p = gamma*m*v, and we are done.

    • @joeboxter3635
      @joeboxter3635 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you take a time derivative when the basic premise of special relativity is inertial reference frames. In an inertial reference the time derivative of velocity is zero.

    • @adambzdak
      @adambzdak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joeboxter3635 In special relativity we can consider accelerated bodies with respect to the inertial frame.
      If the time derivative of velocity is zero, as you say, then also the time derivative of gamma is zero, and there is no point in writing the equation from 12:10.

    • @PolskiTesla2
      @PolskiTesla2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      physics for Engine GREEN FORCE asymmetry th-cam.com/video/CdZv6nMqE-w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hspNGqI5anV_qpkZ

  • @genxlife
    @genxlife ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am not saying that reactionless drives work, but I can't help but be reminded that people once said that heavier-than-air powered flight also defied the laws of physics.

    • @vacuumdiagrams652
      @vacuumdiagrams652 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      These people were all very silly, though, because birds clearly exist.

    • @asandax6
      @asandax6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vacuumdiagrams652 Birds have feathers and feathers are the lightest material we have in the universe which is why we use them in gravity demonstrations e.g dropping a hammer vs feather. So thanks to feathers birds are lighter than air.

    • @WalterBislin
      @WalterBislin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@asandax6birds are certainly NOT lighter than air. Even their feathers are not lighter than air and fall down when there is no upward wind. If birds stop flapping their wings, they fall down, because no lift is created that opposes gravity. If birds were lighter than air, they would not need wings to produce lift. They would simply fly upwards like balloons, which ARE lighter than air.

  • @bignicebear2428
    @bignicebear2428 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even if our formulas are wrong, they are very close to the truth, or we would have noticed.
    So build a working model, if it generates even the tiniest amount of *verifiable* thrust, we'll have something to work with.

  • @primodernious
    @primodernious ปีที่แล้ว

    a inertia drive you need to create a down hill to generate acceleration. does not matter what medium used to generate the force. the force going uphill has less energy then the one going down hill.

  • @mhoover
    @mhoover 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm assuming he will power the thing with his perpetual motion machine.

  • @JorgeFlores-ck8bp
    @JorgeFlores-ck8bp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The gyros do produce force and produce movement in space, in fact that is why On the ISS they have to keep all the things attach to cables because if those things bounce and hit the ISS from inside that can change the ISS direction

    • @PolskiTesla2
      @PolskiTesla2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      we need use special direction to fly th-cam.com/video/CdZv6nMqE-w/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hspNGqI5anV_qpkZ

    • @seditt5146
      @seditt5146 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Make that make sense...

  • @ChuckCreagerJr
    @ChuckCreagerJr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is one way you could have an apparent reactionless drive there really would not actually be reactionless. That would be a case where the reaction mass is the entire mass of the rest of the universe or at least a reasonably large local portion of it. For example, if the reaction mass is the mass of the solar system, what would be the acceleration of the reaction Mass if you are trying to accelerate say a vehicle the size of Starship at 1G.
    I'm not saying that any such drive is possible in practice, it's just that it is a way of getting the same effect as a reactionless drive without violating the conservation of momentum.

  • @markelowitz8948
    @markelowitz8948 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought that conservation of momentum only applies in a closed system, which is defined as one where the mass remains constant, and net external force is zero. What if the propulsion system is not a closed system with a varying inertial or gravitational mass?

    • @PhysicsUnsimplified
      @PhysicsUnsimplified  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A closed system is defined as a system that has no interactions with the external environment. Depending on how you define "mass", the mass in a closed system might change, but the momentum is still conserved.

    • @mkoluacik
      @mkoluacik ปีที่แล้ว

      Conservation of momentum in closed system is not valid always. In short time world will see that with a working device.

    • @blinded6502
      @blinded6502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you want your mass to change or if you use the outer environment to push against, then you basically arrive back to traditional forms of propulsion.

    • @zoltankurti
      @zoltankurti 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mkoluacik so how is that going?

  • @mirceamarinprunean4839
    @mirceamarinprunean4839 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    a law can be violated as long as there is another law that cancels it

  • @thelegendaryblackbeastofar39
    @thelegendaryblackbeastofar39 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe the next video should cover the revolutionary new perpetual-motion machine that is taking the world by storm!!!

  • @tangoshowcast
    @tangoshowcast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most of the scientists said human will never fly in a ship heavier then air

  • @wilsonst6044
    @wilsonst6044 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even if the whole object is not moving but the drive still can create electricity on board for air/water.

  • @edmondw6689
    @edmondw6689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reactionless drive is possible under a field like river pushing a boat to downstream.

  • @InertialDrive
    @InertialDrive 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've gotten a patent for an inertial force "polarizer" that in essence a "reactionless" drive. I did experiments to fully understand the source of the gyroscopic effect (nuclear unwinding) and used that knowledge to create a mechanical catalyst for releasing nuclear energy in a straight line direction (polarization). Take that all you Newton and Einstein worshippers!

  • @orsoncart802
    @orsoncart802 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:21 Haha! Nice! 😁👍👍👍

  • @nelsondisalvatore9812
    @nelsondisalvatore9812 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the MEGA drive?

    • @isodoublet
      @isodoublet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was lovely, I played Sonic 2 and 3 quite a lot as a kid

  • @user-tu2rk6nu4z
    @user-tu2rk6nu4z 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Reactionless drives will be based on quantum effects and conservation of momentum is not quantum law

    • @ccreutzig
      @ccreutzig หลายเดือนก่อน

      As long as quantum effects obey spatial invariance, they will have conservation of momentum. And as far as we know, they do. Please don't treat “quantum” as “magic.”

  • @sureshbaliyan7567
    @sureshbaliyan7567 ปีที่แล้ว

    Change the rule to : "Energy can be created only when the applied force is the inherent property of the source"

  • @seshamxy9135
    @seshamxy9135 ปีที่แล้ว

    These engines work only when there is an influence of gravity or any push back force which is already getting exerted on the whole rocket. in space it does't work that way, even if he tries to use the em field origin from top x or y axes instead of z axis directly.

  • @ultramarinus2478
    @ultramarinus2478 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AAAND the gyroscopic devices on ISS ment for correcting of the orbit are what? Rockets?

    • @narfwhals7843
      @narfwhals7843 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Theyr big gyroscopes, which work by conservation of angular momentum.
      How do you think those are relevant to the video?

  • @ne1cup
    @ne1cup ปีที่แล้ว

    photons travel as waves and are particles on impact. what does the transition from wave to particle do to the mass?

  • @NikolajKuntner
    @NikolajKuntner ปีที่แล้ว

    I love mechanics.

  • @MrHandKman
    @MrHandKman 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Explain inertial drive then. Can you? If you give a serious response maybe I'll try to explain.

  • @woolfy02
    @woolfy02 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Makes you wonder if those Ufo's shown from the Air Force had used some type of Helical engines. They mentioned the crafts had no heat /exhaust coming from the back of it.

    • @frankotradez
      @frankotradez ปีที่แล้ว

      new uaps shot down a couple of days ago, wondering if it is another country then it may be this technology they are using since some have reported that the objects had no means of propulsion and affected their aircrafts

  • @vincentsherlock6617
    @vincentsherlock6617 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Well human mathematics does not account for forbidden numbers, so of course from the conventional perspective it can never work, but the conventional perspective is not the truth.

    • @narfwhals7843
      @narfwhals7843 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Forbidden numbers? What are those? Forbidden by and to whom?

    • @c_n_b
      @c_n_b ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In the UK you can't drink unless you are 18, so 17 is forbidden.

    • @aftabansari9723
      @aftabansari9723 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm intrigued.

    • @GalaxyGoldbox
      @GalaxyGoldbox 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@narfwhals7843 Certain values or concepts that yet to be developed or conceived by humans

  • @GarretKrampe
    @GarretKrampe ปีที่แล้ว

    It is very hard to formulate the interaction with the universe, the particle soup and and make any meaningful observation with out pure experimentation.

  • @damonjackson4744
    @damonjackson4744 ปีที่แล้ว

    someone smarter than me please tell me why you couldn't just release the ions at rear of the engine to create forward thrust

    • @Comet-2011-W3-Lovejoy
      @Comet-2011-W3-Lovejoy ปีที่แล้ว

      We already have ion engines, but they provide very little thrust

  • @juniormalafaia
    @juniormalafaia ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi all.
    Here is what I think.
    Im Not a scientist
    1. The projects can't be tested near any gravitational ambient such as earth or near it. Any test results on earth will be basically wrong and redundant.
    2. I think assuming math or current physics laws will not apply correctly in space .
    3. I do see a anti / or a gravitational engine working in near future and I do think it will be the only way [ at least for a ling time ] to travel faster than light by continuously compounding momentum , speed, time , distance.
    4. I do encourage to test more and test in space not on earth . Not on simulated amti gravity scenarios as well

  • @edwinmartens7459
    @edwinmartens7459 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only way to make a Starshipengine without exhoust is by somehow grabbing the fabric of space and pull. Assuming space is something rather than nothing.
    This is however not reactionless...

  • @joeboxter3635
    @joeboxter3635 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let me ask you, how does light move? Where is the trust?

    • @AutismusMaximus
      @AutismusMaximus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Light can actually produce thrust.
      Look up beam-powered propulsion and solar sails if you're interested.

    • @familyserviceelectronic9514
      @familyserviceelectronic9514 ปีที่แล้ว

      What different laser thrust with Microwave EM drive thrust ?

    • @sarenace
      @sarenace ปีที่แล้ว

      As an object gets lighter, it takes less thrust to accelerate. A kilogram would need more thrust than a gram, which would require more thrust than a milligram, to accelerate to a given velocity. Photons have zero mass. Therefore, it takes 0 thrust to accelerate a photon to lightspeed. Therefore, as soon as a photon is created, it accelerates off without needing thrust.

    • @StephanBuchin
      @StephanBuchin ปีที่แล้ว

      There's no thrust. Light is produced and instantly travels at its constant speed. There is no thrust as it doesn't need to accelerate, stop or change direction.

  • @user-po3ev7is5w
    @user-po3ev7is5w หลายเดือนก่อน

    the EM drive as laid out is NOT a reactionless drive. It IS a REACTION drive. LOL!

  • @jocksam6634
    @jocksam6634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess Thomson Townsend brown couldn’t have created Electrogravitics

  • @davidharkness9629
    @davidharkness9629 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Physics Unsimplified , you are 50 years behind. My question is , what would someone pay for it? It is very real.

  • @familyserviceelectronic9514
    @familyserviceelectronic9514 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should to learning russian phase shift propulsion

  • @AspartameBoy
    @AspartameBoy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most obvious to the casual observer

  • @folkking8898
    @folkking8898 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think its possible sandy kidd 1983 made a ractionless motor that run off gyroscopics and it worked "violating your laws of physics" then he came to america to help fun and research the idea and died not long after

  • @yakine13
    @yakine13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing, I really liked this video, understood 60% of it as It's been a while since I didn't do math after gradutating lol.
    I really think that we reached our boundaries with normal Physics, My hope for the future is not to break the law, but to discover news fields where we can push the boundaries again.

  • @eartian3154
    @eartian3154 ปีที่แล้ว

    So that means it won't work?

  • @lance862
    @lance862 ปีที่แล้ว

    Today of the Ivo LTD Quantum Drive launches and this video will have to be remade... quantized inertia can produce thrust without particles just as surely as black holes event Horizons interact with virtual particles to create Hawking radiation virtual particles will interact with rindler Horizons created by an accelerating object to create Unruh radiation you can apply this concept even further to just synthetically program an object's inertia via the quantum vacuum that would be called a Horizon Drive look at the Salvatore Pais u.s. Navy UFO patents.

    • @zoltankurti
      @zoltankurti 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It didn't launch. McCulloch is deeply wrong about his theory.

  • @kevinb.8649
    @kevinb.8649 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    See that’s the old way of thinking that something has to be shot out to go forward. There is other ways specially if you can create gravity fields. And let’s not forget the EM drive was tested successfully too so call it impossibly all you way it’s your understanding of conversation of momentum that’s wrong not the test results.

  • @narfwhals7843
    @narfwhals7843 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for opening the video with "they won't work".
    I don't think it's necessarily wrong to think about such ideas, but at least people should do their research when they realize their machines violate the laws of physics. This analysis has basically been done. 100 years ago. By _Einstein himself_ .
    Of course the laws of physics might be wrong. But all of these proposals could have saved themselves some embarrassment by just thinking one step further...

    • @joeboxter3635
      @joeboxter3635 ปีที่แล้ว

      When did Einstein do this? I was not aware that Einstein did research in reactionless (ie thrust less) motion. Did Einstein explain how light propagates without thrust or reaction?

    • @narfwhals7843
      @narfwhals7843 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joeboxter3635 Einstein didn't have to explain that. Maxwell already did. Light is a wave in the electromagnetic field.
      And it doesn't move without reaction. Light has momentum. When an object emits light in one direction the object is pushed the other way.
      Einstein analyzed the effects of forces perpendicular to the direction of motion. For him this lead to the concept of transverse and longitudinal mass.

    • @myhalong
      @myhalong ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joeboxter3635 well know ; light emission involve thrust or reaction. propagation at constent speed never need thrust

  • @JorgeFlores-ck8bp
    @JorgeFlores-ck8bp ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are they saying it does not work ? they do work, we see them working, look think about it you can create momentum by a gyro and then ... you got inertia on the gyro, then use that inertia as something to have friction against to and then from there move

    • @StephanBuchin
      @StephanBuchin ปีที่แล้ว

      It wouldn't work in space. The gyroscope needs something to lean on so it can translate and you need to spin it first which cannot be done in space either.

    • @JorgeFlores-ck8bp
      @JorgeFlores-ck8bp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StephanBuchin Look at an engine when you start it it jumps and not due to the base it moves againts itself

    • @JorgeFlores-ck8bp
      @JorgeFlores-ck8bp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StephanBuchin Have you see a cat in the air doing a double jump ?

    • @JorgeFlores-ck8bp
      @JorgeFlores-ck8bp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StephanBuchin They use their own mass to propel on the air a bit more

    • @JorgeFlores-ck8bp
      @JorgeFlores-ck8bp ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StephanBuchin the 3r law of newton do not work as you expect on spinning acceleration

  • @nadahere
    @nadahere 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sorry to inform you but 'anti-gravity' /electrogravity is coming.

  • @gene4094
    @gene4094 ปีที่แล้ว

    The laws of physics work differently at the nanoscale. The scientific community is still stuck in the bulk engineering the classical scientific methods. This will not solve our endeavor for advancing advancements.

  • @zackbarkley7593
    @zackbarkley7593 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dont think your being accurate. Conservation of momentum relates to invariance of the Lorenzian in Euclidean space. We know space is not Euclidean locally due to gravity and there are good symmetry arguments that it might not globally either although no direct measure is now possible of the later. Nobel prize winning physicist showed it was possible to swim in spacetime which could convey momentum in a gravitational well, although calculations of the effect is miniscule. I have no doubt based on established physical principles, it is possible and happens based upon what we know about space and the origin of the momentum law. Whether it is useful or practical is another question, but given we dont have a quantum theory of gravity, that cannot be ruled out either.

  • @honeydavis5568
    @honeydavis5568 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Right. But a non mathematical explanation is that they misinterpreted Lorenze contraction thinking that transverse motion would result in contraction in every dimension. Only the component of velocity in the direction of travel would result in contraction in that direction. Is that right?

  • @seshamxy9135
    @seshamxy9135 ปีที่แล้ว

    However the idea of saying that all the inertial engine design doesn't work is just not correct, there are some drives that actually work and they work at places outside the earth ( i mean in space ), Eric Lathwaite's gyroscopic propulsion system is under this category with a small defect. actaully the gyroscopic precession doesn't work in space when the ship is in rest, but with a gentle push within the ship when the ship moves, this propulsion can be tuned to act to propel.
    there is another kind of propulsion based on inertia that actually works in space, i had made a sample of this design around a decade back, although lift is made, it were very crude design. This propulsion also needs a simple non zero force on the space ship to start with, this kind of small scale non-zero force can be generated even from within the space craft, the over all design can look like in the link posted below
    th-cam.com/video/cL2BvfV1eHU/w-d-xo.html
    although the design lack a component which actually can make this work with 100% surety, this engine also follow the law of conservation of momentum and exert the backward push needed for forward acceleration via a spin caused, this where most scientist avoid considering the design, saying it doesn't work because it doesn't give out force in the back ward direction to propel forward.

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    F=ma violated?

  • @yogiguitar1
    @yogiguitar1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you think they wont work because you dont understand the so caled "laws""you quote .do you think a cop will come and bust you?

  • @Jim0i0
    @Jim0i0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scientists call it "a wash". lol. I wish.

  • @bazoo513
    @bazoo513 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:!4 - Aaaaand the tin foil hat crowd departs in disgust.

  • @ATomafsky
    @ATomafsky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never say never 🛸

  • @mikegLXIVMM
    @mikegLXIVMM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it'll never work. - Eeyore

  • @marcdeckard7064
    @marcdeckard7064 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't work. Tell that to Klacktar.

  • @hole386
    @hole386 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    all of these are based on a fundamental misunderstanding of our universe and its laws

  • @MitzvosGolem1
    @MitzvosGolem1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    China makes them sold on Temu $12.00

  • @CorneliuTicu
    @CorneliuTicu ปีที่แล้ว

    Running around in circles, through mathematical formulas (that may look complicated) is not a solution to prove something. Energy is changing with speed. Some say in Newton's laws manner that an object in movement is changing mass (to "sum up" the fact that it has also stored kinetic energy). So if you are in motion and do have a system with you, that has particles that change speed in regard to itself, it will change the energy and have a bigger change in regard to the environment it is in motion through. If you shoot a bullet at something, the inverse of the force that hits the target doesn't come back and hit you. It already went "somewhere else", at the beginning, being obviously lower than the energy that hit the target. Take a box and put inside a spring that shoots a ball inside against the inner wall. The box will obviously move forward the moment the ball hits the wall and not when it does uncompress. Compress the spring and shoot again and so on. Some people don't understand that science is just humans way to explain how something works trying to find a pattern and predicting a different context. But science doesn't rule anything. Even if the math seems right.

    • @StephanBuchin
      @StephanBuchin ปีที่แล้ว

      Your box with a ball and a spring would only work when there is something to push against, in this case the ground. You don't have that in space.

    • @CorneliuTicu
      @CorneliuTicu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StephanBuchin the energy is loaded over a longer period of time then the impact discharge time. So the opponent one from the heavier object creates no movement.
      If I am wrong this would mean that the astronauts, that push themselves through the international space station, would generate a spin in the space station every time. All depends on the time of charge and discharge of the energy.

    • @StephanBuchin
      @StephanBuchin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CorneliuTicu About the astronauts, they actually create small disturbances in the ISS attitude and that's why everything else is carefully locked in place to prevent any collision with the walls. Concerning the reactionless drive, I don't think you can exchange time for space to accelerate a space object though this is an interesting question.

  • @daniellaraman
    @daniellaraman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Explains why the universe can expand faster than the speed of light but nothing can travel faster than light these laws are clearly outdated

    • @myhalong
      @myhalong ปีที่แล้ว

      nothing can travel faster than light into the universe but the univers do not expend into the universe

    • @s71402san
      @s71402san ปีที่แล้ว

      Red shift, the Doppler effect.

  • @RicardoJMGuimaraes
    @RicardoJMGuimaraes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    human writen laws... deceptive.

  • @izy3792
    @izy3792 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am an inventor and I have what I call a "C" Drive ,it is a gyroscope folded in half, shaped like the letter C, and it works fine , just because you don't believe it works has no effect whatsoever on the function of my device, I can assure you.

    • @sassy6756
      @sassy6756 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have any proof of this? A video? Anything?

    • @izy3792
      @izy3792 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sassy6756 do you think the people who run everything would allow an anti gravity device to be released to the public?

    • @izy3792
      @izy3792 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is my plan though ,to upload the details of the C Drive to you tube and let others build it and spread the word about whether or not the drive actually works and whether or not it's worth the trouble to build it ,
      My chances of survival aren't that great but at least I'll die doing what I love.

    • @User-jr7vf
      @User-jr7vf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@izy3792 Then please go ahead and post videos, show us your work. Don't just wave your hands and claim that you have created something impossible.

  • @connorfisher1651
    @connorfisher1651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Laws were made to be broken

  • @gxurma
    @gxurma 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That was a nice theoretical lecture of momentum conservation. But: all our equations are based on experimental observation. So: Did anyone try it out in real life? Did anyone really build it? You can not for sure say ""it can not work"", if you even did not bother to try it. I know, it might be a waste of time and money, but hey, so many useless things were already founded in the world, (like gender equality nonsense etc.) , so why not settle this thing once and for all with some experiments...

  • @hikolanikola8775
    @hikolanikola8775 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's a paper that states that inertial propulsion is possible..

  • @O1dmanwalker
    @O1dmanwalker ปีที่แล้ว

    More like not working yet. Cause science is ever evolving I tend to think that we just discovered how to do it yet

  • @ATomafsky
    @ATomafsky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So how do the ufos work ? You do know they are real .

  • @peladoclaus
    @peladoclaus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gyroscopic propulsion is being used on the satellites bouncing the signal of this broadcast 😂😂😂
    Yiu really havent done much research. Lifters work betterbin a vacuum btw. First electronpropulsion patents filed before 1900.. back when you couldnt get a patent without a working model

    • @GoodMan-rk5jr
      @GoodMan-rk5jr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These engines are used to rotate the vehicle, not to push it forward and backward. What is meant in the video is not to rotate, but to push it forward or backward.

  • @cabalpt5489
    @cabalpt5489 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank, one remark, devices actually respect laws of physics and kindly don't work.

  • @Darthflips
    @Darthflips ปีที่แล้ว

    Somebody jelly lol.