I saw this in the cinema in Spain September 2016 - it was quite wonderful even though the sound was not loud enough. I was amazed by the change in JK in 3 years. Here you can see every nuance of his expression & appreciate his skills - so different today where he hides behind a beard.
Une superbe représentation qui nous a prouvé qu'avec peu de moyens pour la mise en scène, celle-ci pouvait être très belle et avec des interprètes de cette trempe !!!
Jonas Kaufmann does what works for him... And Damn does it work for him. Technique is far from an exact art, more a mish-mash of trial and error... I'd like to see any of the negative commenters here stand up and sing like that. I guarantee you they can't. Again, what works for one singer will not necessarily work for another. At the end of the day the individual is the one who has to stand and sing, not the technical critics.
Maxwell McGrath Yeah, and sings like 300 days a year, LOL. If he had all the problems they claim he has, he would be long forgotten by now :)). They were actually a very good vocal match here, and i definitely hear the difference between tenor and baritone, and the match in timbre does not hurt at all. At least he doesn't sound like his throat is about to turn inside out and rip through his mouth and he's about to gag or throw up, like a lot of other tenors have throughout history, probably due to singing on the edge of their ability. He almost never does. There's always reserve. And just when you think he will never take that hight note, he always does, and surprisingly it usually sounds even better than the note right before it, which you thought was as good as it'll get. He knows what he's doing and is in control of the musical line! Always! And he has the technical ability to do any embellishment exactly when written, which you can't say for all of the 'great ones' of old that everyone now legendizes in their imaginations, like Corelli, who often passed on that stuff, but yeah, knew how to place his voice so it sounded like his guts were being turned inside out. Ugh.. hate that gagging sound. Kaufmann never, always the noble in-control quality to his sound. A very sound and secure technique indeed.
ArtShouldBeBeautiful Please STFU...you sound patently stupid and have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You like modern day rubbish wannabe opera singers and loath the best there ever was??? Hahahahha...very well then...I can't argue against what you consider beautiful and desirable. After all, flies love the taste of shit in their mouth, and so do you.
Ruffiano Madness Well, at least Domingo seems to disagree, I heard him calling Kaufmann one of the greatest tenors alive. So did my professor for classical singing by the way, and no offense, but I find them both just a bit more trustworthy than random TH-cam comments.
Now I need to decided which is the greatest pairing - this with Kaufmann and Hampson, or the Paris one with Kaufmann and Tezier (the French version).......maybe they are equal!!
Mi vida sentimental, Alberto García Tobajas y Jonas Kaufmann,, increíbles su personalidad inteligencia, formación, inteligencia, irresistiblemente guapísimos y varoniles.!!!
Buena interpretación, pero se me hace siempre presente en el recuerdo esa interpretación legendaria que dejaron registrada en disco Tito Gobbi y Mario Filippeschi.
_People who love this music AND the voices that express it, have to give these singers a break._ _They need public support AND more importantly, rest -- vocal rest ! BUT you can't seem to tell them anything !_ _A Commentator in this thread pointed out how much better Hampson was when he was younger & singing 'Figaro' & such roles. His version of "Largo al Factotum" after being introduced by Anne Sofie von Otter from "Die Fledermaus" was TOO good ! I've never heard any version so pristinely precise and professionally stylish delivery w / great virtuosity. Whatever they say about him, it was one of opera's great vocal demonstrations of difficult music. He should be given credit for his amazing singing._ _BUT what has happened since then ? A singer's voice, of course, changes overtime. Whatever the changes, the darker voices should become darker, fuller, richer, deeper and more resonant. Hampson's voice sounds shallow and superficial for a baritone or maybe he was tired._ _IM(MODEST)O, something is wrong w / a baritone voice that doesn't mature into a greater pulsating and penetrating projection._ _BUT it's just my ears being spoiled by his earlier dynamic singing / vocalizing._
Grande Orchestra, grandissimo Pappano !! Kaufmann è un buon Carlos, Hampson non è un marchese di Posa, anzi non è proprio un baritono verdiano ! Una nota stonata in quella più che buona edizione.
For "sabaproject": Good technique doesn't help Hampson to have darker voice. I argue that he has to light voice (or Kaufmann too dark) to blend really well together.
It's a matter of taste, but I think it's sort of interesting to hear this sung by two voices that -- you're right -- don't really blend. I'm used to the Bjoerling/Merrill recording where it's one gorgeous flood of sound, but in this clip I'm hearing the baritone line thrown into relief -- less beautiful of course, but an interesting new perspective on the music.
Vuoi ascoltare verdi, il baritono verdiano per colore è Bastianini . Il colore non qualifica il registro di canto. Il registro di canto è dato dalla tessitura vocale e dal passaggio di registro
@@sabaproject 1 Am I talking about registre ? No. My comment is about blending of two specific voices: Kaufmanns and Hampsons 2. Basttianini is not on the top of my list.
@Barone Vitellio Scarpia I agree..Thom is 6ft 4 with a beautiful Lyric Baritone Voice...a great Artist...a close Pal and Colleague of the late Jerry Hadley...they sounded great together...but he is no Verdi Baritone! Caruso was very Baritonal near the end...as is Jonas..but great Singing isnt about a perfect voice..but musical Intelligence and insight,to phrase in telling the story or psychological state etc
Just looking for this comment haha. It’s amazing how Kauffman is the very definition of ingolato. People say it’s just a dark voice, they a should go listen a proper dramatic tenor like Vickers who had free, properly proyected sound, not this constricted throaty mess!
The TENOR: WOW!!!!, The baritone: BUUUUUUUUUUU. When Hampsón was, young and he sung Figaro, ans "such" roles, he was OK, but now... His voice never got heavier, he shouldn't sing this roles. Kaufamann is amazing!!!
I agree SABA. Kaufmann has a nice dark voice, a poor art of singing (Domingo's fellow) and,,, the most important today: he is a handsome guy. Listen to Bergonzi in this duet with Capucilli. This is an artist.
I wrote just about colours of their voices and how well / not well they blend. Hampsons's voice don't match really well with Kaufmann's and that's not the question of technique, which is probably questioned.
I think the best vocal match for Jonas is Ludovic Tézier (they also have amazing chemistry). One critic described them after the ROH Forza as blending like "coffee and cream".
Kaufmann, hola Thomas Hampson, simplemente, nuestro viaje, edwlweiss, Emilio Sagi y Daniel Bianco lo estrenaron, en, París. Nuestro viaje. Bien en ese viaje estuvimos en cambridge por Alberto me/nos hacia, mucha ilusión, compramos, chuches de Harry Potter nos hicimos fotos con maestros. Bien Alberto desde que entró, en Cnmv, todos los veranos 15 días o un mes cambridge.!!!
Is it possible that Verdi deliberately wrote it high for the baritone and low for the tenor to achieve that effect? Composers can do that, you know! !!!
Listen rather to Martinelli + de Luca (th-cam.com/video/N00ncciGTSs/w-d-xo.html) or Corelli + Herlea (th-cam.com/video/GY65cyFKXhA/w-d-xo.html) or Aragall + Bruson (th-cam.com/video/O6sH_csZMeA/w-d-xo.html) etc.
Mirandu Kan I agree on Mirandu Kan !! Thomas Hamspon is an brilliant barytone. He and Jonas Kaufmann doesn't just sing well together, but you can smell the friendship going on between them! I think it works!
@@aliciaferretto1109 due cantanti sopravvalutati e vocianti... Tecnica disastrosa... Dovrei fare un elenco dei difetti e ma ci vorrebbe mezza pagina e sarebbe come sparare sulla Croce Rossa... Sa cosa mi spiace soprattutto, che ci sia cosi.poca preparazione da osannare due cantanti che ai tempi d'oro avrebbero fatto i coristi... E le garantisco che conosco coristi molto meglio di loro e lo dico con rammarico perche' significa che l'arte lirica è davvero valutata solo orecchiando... Senza approfondire. Peccato si eviterebbe di esaltare gente che dovrebbe almeno studiare seriamente prima di cantare... Specie se vengono pagati profumatamente... Si paga una prestazione artistica seria non una simpatia dal canto sgangherato... E come vede qui ci sono solo entusiasmi e peana... E mi preoccupa questo. Significa che ci si accontenta al ribasso perché questo basta...
@@jckonstanzje n'arrive pas à comprendre ces gens qui, cachés derrière leur écran, passent leur temps à salir l'art lyrique et des artistes aussi talentueux... sans aucun argument valable en plus ! Je ne suis pas spécialiste, mais mon Dieu, il suffit d'écouter et de regarder cette vidéo pour ressentir tant de beauté, tant d'émotions...👏🏵️🥰
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Je l'écouterais une centaine de fois à la suite, merveilleux
oooh, ich auch; wieder und immer wieder !!!!
Gran dúo de mis cantantes preferidos : Thomas Hampson y Jonas Kaufmann.
What amazing voices!!! Best Duet ever - Thomas Hampson and Jonas Kaufmann. This years Don Carlo from Salzburg was so gorgeous!
I saw this in the cinema in Spain September 2016 - it was quite wonderful even though the sound was not loud enough. I was amazed by the change in JK in 3 years. Here you can see every nuance of his expression & appreciate his skills - so different today where he hides behind a beard.
What a pair!!! Rodrigo, can I be you when I grow up? :)
Stunning and beautiful bromance and tribute to friendship
"bromance"? it's wedding vows.
J'adore ce duo et cet opéra, on ne s'en lasse pas...
Une superbe représentation qui nous a prouvé qu'avec peu de moyens pour la mise en scène, celle-ci pouvait être très belle et avec des interprètes de cette trempe !!!
Oh what a wonderfull voicseses 🌹to hear do great yes ❤❤😊😊love from DENMARK🇩🇰
Jonas Kaufmann does what works for him... And Damn does it work for him. Technique is far from an exact art, more a mish-mash of trial and error... I'd like to see any of the negative commenters here stand up and sing like that. I guarantee you they can't. Again, what works for one singer will not necessarily work for another. At the end of the day the individual is the one who has to stand and sing, not the technical critics.
Maxwell McGrath Yeah, and sings like 300 days a year, LOL. If he had all the problems they claim he has, he would be long forgotten by now :)).
They were actually a very good vocal match here, and i definitely hear the difference between tenor and baritone, and the match in timbre does not hurt at all. At least he doesn't sound like his throat is about to turn inside out and rip through his mouth and he's about to gag or throw up, like a lot of other tenors have throughout history, probably due to singing on the edge of their ability. He almost never does. There's always reserve. And just when you think he will never take that hight note, he always does, and surprisingly it usually sounds even better than the note right before it, which you thought was as good as it'll get. He knows what he's doing and is in control of the musical line! Always! And he has the technical ability to do any embellishment exactly when written, which you can't say for all of the 'great ones' of old that everyone now legendizes in their imaginations, like Corelli, who often passed on that stuff, but yeah, knew how to place his voice so it sounded like his guts were being turned inside out. Ugh.. hate that gagging sound. Kaufmann never, always the noble in-control quality to his sound. A very sound and secure technique indeed.
ArtShouldBeBeautiful Please STFU...you sound patently stupid and have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You like modern day rubbish wannabe opera singers and loath the best there ever was??? Hahahahha...very well then...I can't argue against what you consider beautiful and desirable. After all, flies love the taste of shit in their mouth, and so do you.
ArtShouldBeBeautiful FYI...Jonas Crapman's voice isn't even dog shit without mics. Get a fucking clue.
Mr. Lucky Ruffiano FYI... I've seen him live, without mics, at the Met, and i completely disagree
Ruffiano Madness Well, at least Domingo seems to disagree, I heard him calling Kaufmann one of the greatest tenors alive. So did my professor for classical singing by the way, and no offense, but I find them both just a bit more trustworthy than random TH-cam comments.
So beautiful .....if this was the last sound of my last moment alive I would be eternal with it.
Hampson, the light lyric baritone that can sound like a tenor.
Kauffman, the spinto tenor who can be mistaken for a baritone...
Very interesting.
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I take it you can't read Music??
@@rationalsceptic7634forse ma ha molto orecchio per questi due cantanti tromboni....
That miso voce at 1.00 is just everything... not sure what the music calls for but I love it!!
Dio che
nell'alma infondere
Amor volesti e speme,
Desio nel core accendere
Tu déi di libertà.
Now I need to decided which is the greatest pairing - this with Kaufmann and Hampson, or the Paris one with Kaufmann and Tezier (the French version).......maybe they are equal!!
operacat1 Listen to Hvorostovsky and Kaufmann,much better!
the one with Tezier
By far the best ! These 2 just fit so well.
Maria Schwartz Are you an idiot????!!!!?????
@@starwarsfanatic127 No, obviously she isn't, the duet is a great performance.
I think they sound wonderful together.
Mi vida sentimental, Alberto García Tobajas y Jonas Kaufmann,, increíbles su personalidad inteligencia, formación, inteligencia, irresistiblemente guapísimos y varoniles.!!!
Fantasztikus páros!👏🌹
Voces seguras en expresiones dramáticas y una limpieza vocal inigualables.
The kings...
of constricted and ingolated singing
Maravilloso interpretación //
Love them both. Great duet. Without forget Anja Harteros.
Great performance!!
Buena interpretación, pero se me hace siempre presente en el recuerdo esa interpretación legendaria que dejaron registrada en disco Tito Gobbi y Mario Filippeschi.
I am confused…..Which is the tenor…….which is the baritone?
I pine away when unattractive, middle-aged men like Bejamino Gigli and Jussi Bjoerling sang you beautifully that you simply melted away.
It seems to me that Kaufmann and Hampson have the perfect volume and dynamics for excellent blending. What a beautiful sound!
This is one of the most heartbreaking duets Verdi ever composed. But listen to this - nothing. Where is the passion gone?
What? You can't be serious......to me it is deeply moving.
@@operacat1just for you...
_People who love this music AND the voices that express it, have to give these singers a break._
_They need public support AND more importantly, rest -- vocal rest ! BUT you can't seem to tell them anything !_
_A Commentator in this thread pointed out how much better Hampson was when he was younger & singing 'Figaro' & such roles. His version of "Largo al Factotum" after being introduced by Anne Sofie von Otter from "Die Fledermaus" was TOO good ! I've never heard any version so pristinely precise and professionally stylish delivery w / great virtuosity. Whatever they say about him, it was one of opera's great vocal demonstrations of difficult music. He should be given credit for his amazing singing._
_BUT what has happened since then ? A singer's voice, of course, changes overtime. Whatever the changes, the darker voices should become darker, fuller, richer, deeper and more resonant. Hampson's voice sounds shallow and superficial for a baritone or maybe he was tired._
_IM(MODEST)O, something is wrong w / a baritone voice that doesn't mature into a greater pulsating and penetrating projection._
_BUT it's just my ears being spoiled by his earlier dynamic singing / vocalizing._
Странно, но не тронула совсем. По-моему, темп не тот и они вместе не смотрятся (их голоса)
Grande Orchestra, grandissimo Pappano !! Kaufmann è un buon Carlos, Hampson non è un marchese di Posa, anzi non è proprio un baritono verdiano ! Una nota stonata in quella più che buona edizione.
Un Carlos ingolato e stonato ma esteticamente piacevole
@@sabaprojectinfatti... la piacevolezza gli ha aperto porte che sarebbero state chiuse... ma chi ha orecchio sa quel che vale...
LOVE YOU!
BRAVO.
For "sabaproject": Good technique doesn't help Hampson to have darker voice. I argue that he has to light voice (or Kaufmann too dark) to blend really well together.
It's a matter of taste, but I think it's sort of interesting to hear this sung by two voices that -- you're right -- don't really blend. I'm used to the Bjoerling/Merrill recording where it's one gorgeous flood of sound, but in this clip I'm hearing the baritone line thrown into relief -- less beautiful of course, but an interesting new perspective on the music.
Vuoi ascoltare verdi, il baritono verdiano per colore è Bastianini . Il colore non qualifica il registro di canto. Il registro di canto è dato dalla tessitura vocale e dal passaggio di registro
@@sabaproject ???
@@sabaproject
1 Am I talking about registre ? No. My comment is about blending of two specific voices: Kaufmanns and Hampsons
2. Basttianini is not on the top of my list.
@@spevoljubse Bastianini non e' in cima alla sua lista chi lo è... va. beh chi osanna questi due significa che si fa bastare quel che gli basta...
Qui peut me donner le titre de cet extrait de duo? Que j'adore
Precioso😊🎉
Duo Merveilleux....
Je ne sais rien dire d'autre " j'adore"
Parodistici
Nice !
Who is Philip? Amazing casting
Matti Salminen
❤️❤️
The tenor Hampson with the baritone Kauffman hah😂
I take it you can't read Music??
@Barone Vitellio Scarpia
The great Baritone Leonard Warren could hit a high C...some Tenors cant...so what is your point?
@Barone Vitellio Scarpia
I agree..Thom is 6ft 4 with a beautiful Lyric Baritone Voice...a great Artist...a close Pal and Colleague of the late Jerry Hadley...they sounded great together...but he is no Verdi Baritone!
Caruso was very Baritonal near the end...as is Jonas..but great Singing isnt about a perfect voice..but musical Intelligence and insight,to phrase in telling the story or psychological state etc
@@rationalsceptic7634 I'm just joking, never mind…hh
Just looking for this comment haha. It’s amazing how Kauffman is the very definition of ingolato. People say it’s just a dark voice, they a should go listen a proper dramatic tenor like Vickers who had free, properly proyected sound, not this constricted throaty mess!
does anyone know if the full opera is available? I should so much like to see it!!
Yes..on Amazon
@@rationalsceptic7634 Fuck amazon. It's on vk.com for free
Is Kaufmann deeper than Hampson?
ragnarkisten no, but his tone is darker.
Anybody is deeper than Hampson
Ingolato
Read the review of Mozart2006 on his blog (in italian). Perfect,
Két kedvencem !
best
The TENOR: WOW!!!!, The baritone: BUUUUUUUUUUU.
When Hampsón was, young and he sung Figaro, ans "such" roles, he was OK, but now... His voice never got heavier, he shouldn't sing this roles.
Kaufamann is amazing!!!
Sordo?
Thomas, Jonas et Verdi, il n'y a pas de mot
I agree SABA. Kaufmann has a nice dark voice, a poor art of singing (Domingo's fellow) and,,, the most important today: he is a handsome guy. Listen to Bergonzi in this duet with Capucilli. This is an artist.
Bergonzi was a maestro (copertura della voce) not ingolato! Un maestro del legato e del respiro
Baritone duet... :) i'm just joking...Great singers!
You got it right! :D
🙏
I wrote just about colours of their voices and how well / not well they blend. Hampsons's voice don't match really well with Kaufmann's and that's not the question of technique, which is probably questioned.
I think the best vocal match for Jonas is Ludovic Tézier (they also have amazing chemistry). One critic described them after the ROH Forza as blending like "coffee and cream".
La Grande de Schubert...
Kaufmann, hola Thomas Hampson, simplemente, nuestro viaje, edwlweiss, Emilio Sagi y Daniel Bianco lo estrenaron, en, París. Nuestro viaje. Bien en ese viaje estuvimos en cambridge por Alberto me/nos hacia, mucha ilusión, compramos, chuches de Harry Potter nos hicimos fotos con maestros. Bien Alberto desde que entró, en Cnmv, todos los veranos 15 días o un mes cambridge.!!!
Anemic version with two tenors on stage. About as sad as Hampson's Macbeth.
Cathie Hubert g
Hampson is a great baritone
Which is the tenor and which is is the baritone? That's the real question lol...
Operafiend22 I hear a clear difference
Jonas is the Tenor and Thomas is the Baritone, their voices are very distinctive ...
Who cares! It is awesome!
And so unimportant.
Is it possible that Verdi deliberately wrote it high for the baritone and low for the tenor to achieve that effect? Composers can do that, you know! !!!
Listen rather to
Martinelli + de Luca (th-cam.com/video/N00ncciGTSs/w-d-xo.html)
or
Corelli + Herlea (th-cam.com/video/GY65cyFKXhA/w-d-xo.html)
or
Aragall + Bruson (th-cam.com/video/O6sH_csZMeA/w-d-xo.html)
etc.
For me is Kaufmann's voice too dark to blend really well with Hampson. Or is just Hampson's voice too light?
Yeah, he always had a light voice
the problem its that Hampson sing in voice, on air.....kaufmann its ingolato and stonato...
カウフマンはやつれて髭がむさくるしくいい感じを受けませんね。
Thomas 'Hamspon'...?
titusbeertsen Thomas handsome 😄
He is spun of ham.
Hamspon????
Me gusta mucho más la versión de Plácido Domingo.
Corelli con Bastianinni.... non plus ultra.
@@donjose8250 oh, dear!!! Jajaja It's true. I must have thought for my self of Forza del Destino instead of Don Carlo. I apologise, and thank you!
Mi piacciono di più Aragall con Bruson nel 1984.
Hampson should stick to Schubert, oh wait, no, he's too skin deep even for that......
Genuinely trying to understand your comment. What's superficial about Hampson?
Mirandu Kan I agree on Mirandu Kan !! Thomas Hamspon is an brilliant barytone. He and Jonas Kaufmann doesn't just sing well together, but you can smell the friendship going on between them! I think it works!
Hampson needs no defense -- but can you really be saying that Schubert's songs are for "skin deep" singers?
Povero Verdi .....
Per ché
Concordo pienamente.
@@aliciaferretto1109 due cantanti sopravvalutati e vocianti... Tecnica disastrosa... Dovrei fare un elenco dei difetti e ma ci vorrebbe mezza pagina e sarebbe come sparare sulla Croce Rossa... Sa cosa mi spiace soprattutto, che ci sia cosi.poca preparazione da osannare due cantanti che ai tempi d'oro avrebbero fatto i coristi... E le garantisco che conosco coristi molto meglio di loro e lo dico con rammarico perche' significa che l'arte lirica è davvero valutata solo orecchiando... Senza approfondire. Peccato si eviterebbe di esaltare gente che dovrebbe almeno studiare seriamente prima di cantare... Specie se vengono pagati profumatamente... Si paga una prestazione artistica seria non una simpatia dal canto sgangherato...
E come vede qui ci sono solo entusiasmi e peana... E mi preoccupa questo. Significa che ci si accontenta al ribasso perché questo basta...
@@numetutelareSo much bla and empty phrases. 😂
@@jckonstanzje n'arrive pas à comprendre ces gens qui, cachés derrière leur écran, passent leur temps à salir l'art lyrique et des artistes aussi talentueux... sans aucun argument valable en plus ! Je ne suis pas spécialiste, mais mon Dieu, il suffit d'écouter et de regarder cette vidéo pour ressentir tant de beauté, tant d'émotions...👏🏵️🥰
Due baritoni :D :D
No. Due tenori
@@gabrielvelascorios8892 no. Un Tenor i un Bariton.
Hampson Is an High baritone. Period.
No, un tenore che ingola e un baritono che sa cantare
povero Thomas Hampson...gli tocca dare una lezione di canto a kaufmann...sordi, ascoltate com è messa bene la voce di Hampson...kaufmann inascoltabile
Pessimi entrambi,un insulto a Verdi .
Hampson is a great Artist but no dramatic Baritone needed for Verdi..so he is clearly miscast
Cute tenors but singing is lousy
Hampson know how to sing...Kaufmann is ingolato and dont know how to sing
Perfect...you must know how to sing. Like to hear you