I really love these insights into lesser known cars and secret prototypes. There are so many rumors and secrets floating around, and getting to see what was behind all of them is super interesting.
wow yeah, never heard of getting the M30 block bored out that far before. Guess it's not much more than the M30B38, but the car is too heavy for that high revving engine. The reason I declined the E34 M5's B34, B36 and B38 - not much added torque.
Love the 7 series content! My E32 has been converted to a manual and has over 422K miles. Will soon finish up my mild refurbishing of the mechanicals and ready to get her back out on the road.
Thanks for showing us the legendary BMW E32. This was way ahead of its time in technology, comfort, safety and reliability. Next, they should do a video of the BMW 750IL from 1987. That would be cool! They should also maybe show a video of the 767 Goldfisch prototype running! Finally, I think BMW should make more classic parts available for the legendary E32 and E38. They are already doing a great job with classic parts. Keep up the good work, guys!
Yes he was! I wish there were more people like him who were as innovative and always wanted a new prototype built as often as he could! I wish more companies would build cool exciting vehicles
I Would really love to see more videos just like this. Love to see what other vehicles Mr. Paul Rosche had built or asked to have built! FANTASTIC video guys! Keep up the great work👍👌
Marc, so when will you be releasing your next video like these about prototypes and special care? I am very excited to find out what other FANTASTIC vehicles that Paul Rosche and others have produced!!!
I am glad South African BMW is here, we have more rare BMWs like the e30 333i and 325is with e30 M3 suspension and 2.7Alpina motor, and the first unofficial M bmw the 530MLE
Those throwing Star wheels at 2:39 also came on my 850CSi as OEM. What would we call the V-16? M70B67? I'm sure the "Goldfish" didn't go into production because it was nose heavy as hell and we still got the same power out of the 2 valve OBDI V-12 S70B56 in the 850CSi. Hopefully they do an episode on my E31's. I had the first M73 powered car and a one of a kind 850CSi, both restored to showroom condition with end of production OEM updates.
Paul Rosche's nickname was called "Nocken Paul" which translated means "Camshaft Paul." Paul Rosche passed away in 2016. Paul was famous for developing BMW's most iconic M brand engines, including the M88 in the M1, the S14 in the E30 M3 and while not technically an M car engine, also engineered the Turbo M10 four cylinder found in the original 2002 Turbo.
The story of Paul Rosche is so much cooler. Rosche also designed the M12/13 engine which was a racing variant of the more normal M10 engine which was used in the E10 and E21 models, among others. The M12/13 engine was used by the F1 team Brabham in their BT52, BT53, BT54, BT55 and BT56 models. The team owner was Bernie Ecclestone (former chief executive of the Formula One Group, which manages Formula One motor racing and controls the commercial rights to the sport) and the chief engineer was none other than Gordon Murray. The M12/13 straight-four of only 1499 cm3 produced at best up to 1500 HP and 1250 Nm in the qualifying runs, but was detuned to 850-900 HP in the actual races. Paul Rosche also designed the legendary S70/2 V12 engine in the McLaren F1, which was also designed by Gordon Murray.
Sorry to be the wiseguy.🤣 Nockenwelle = camshaft Nocke = cam So the translated nickname should be „Cam Paul“, perhaps “Paul the Cam“ would be a bit more colloquial.
When will you be releasing the video of this series? It'd been a month and would really like to see a new video of more of these interesting prototypes or one-offs of Paul Rocher
Agreed. If you think feeding twelve cylinders at the pump is expensive, try feeding sixteen of them. Thankfully the modern S55 and the S65 can beat those numbers with just six or eight cylinders instead of sixteen. Not exactly Prius gas mileage but certainly more gas friendly than the Goldfish.
@@houseofno i think the V16 is about the same as the V12 gas wise. Unless you race it. Ive had a 750i e32. Try filling it up (100L) at corona times. It would have been +€200 to fill up 🙈🙈
@@SSFproductions1 I doubt it. Those extra four cylinders don't eat for free anymore than the other twelve do. My car is the iL the long body. That's an extra four inches on the rear doors and another four hundred pounds on the curb weight.
Love that e32 prototype - however come on BMW - the throwing stars are on the wrong way on the front wheels!!! i'm guessing the wheels should be swapped side to side 👍
Does the Goldfish also derive part of its name from the engineer who developed the engine, Adolf Fischer? I thought that was a part of the story as well!
Please ask bmw to remanufacture the intank fuel pump for 635csi...Europe with twist lock fitting as these are now stopping lots of classic 635csi from being used.😢
E32 sedans are among my favorite BMW designs ever. Sad to see the convoluted, awkward designs coming out of BMW today. The new cars won’t age gracefully like these cars.
I know the all brown proto stickers were replaced with brown on white ones in the 00's, and I think now proto cars just carry BMW Group stickers? If anyone has more details on these please message me
As an apology for the horrible cars BMW has put out over the last 5-10 years (fwd 2 series, all the SUVs, the new 3&5&7 series, S55 crank hub issues, abandoning N/A inline 6s, etc) you could at least do us the kindness of removing those M badges.
I like your flimsy German pronunciation and sincere effort to appear relaxed and fresh 🤭Negligibilities aside: Another nice insight into an era of BMW cars of exuberant character that ended a long long time ago.
The e23 with the m88 is cooool, the v16 is special, but maaaan that e32 s38b38 3.9 ooooh man WOW!❤👏👍💪🏻
Ooh that E32 with the S38 and a manual ❤. That would be so awesome.
In my opinion even cooler than v16😊
I really love these insights into lesser known cars and secret prototypes.
There are so many rumors and secrets floating around, and getting to see what was behind all of them is super interesting.
Oh that 730i with the manual and 3.9L, wow. Have fond memories of the E23 and E32. Love this channel!
wow yeah, never heard of getting the M30 block bored out that far before. Guess it's not much more than the M30B38, but the car is too heavy for that high revving engine. The reason I declined the E34 M5's B34, B36 and B38 - not much added torque.
Your best video yet thanks guys. Paul Rosche was an engineering genius, powered Brabham and Piquet all the way to the title. 4:31
As a south African i am still very proud of the special BMW's that came from our country
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Likewise, there's one of these in my neighborhood in Cape Town. Engine sounds incredible.
Fun fact:first BMW's factory outside Germany was build in South Africa: )
@@Rafal_Wu same with Volkswagen
We have a very good car history sadly it's all gone to shit like the rest of the country.
Love the 7 series content! My E32 has been converted to a manual and has over 422K miles. Will soon finish up my mild refurbishing of the mechanicals and ready to get her back out on the road.
Which engine? I have a 750iL im getting running, it has ~170k miles and id love to manual swap it one day
I love these type of videos, and the idea of BMW taking importance to these classics.
Thanks for showing us the legendary BMW E32. This was way ahead of its time in technology, comfort, safety and reliability. Next, they should do a video of the BMW 750IL from 1987. That would be cool!
They should also maybe show a video of the 767 Goldfisch prototype running!
Finally, I think BMW should make more classic parts available for the legendary E32 and E38. They are already doing a great job with classic parts.
Keep up the good work, guys!
Aus einer Zeit, in der BMW noch wunderschöne 7‘er gebaut hat
I absolutely love these videos - Long live Paul Rosche, an absolute legend
Yes he was! I wish there were more people like him who were as innovative and always wanted a new prototype built as often as he could! I wish more companies would build cool exciting vehicles
@@btbd2785 couldnt agree more - he has inspired myself and many others to push the boundaries when it comes to BMWs.
Rosche's car is amazing!
I love that they finally showed off the Goldfish. The V16 is crazy haha
Wieder ein klasse Video! 😍😍😍
Ich mag diese Prototypen, den 7er mit dem M5 Motor kannte ich noch nicht 😮😮😮
Bitte mehr davon ❤😇🏁🚗
Very nice channel I would love to visit this facility
e32 blew my mind!
With u
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4:18 that door sound is awesome.
Thoroughly enjoyed this episode…. Amazing cars and the history that comes along it’s the cherry on top
I Would really love to see more videos just like this. Love to see what other vehicles Mr. Paul Rosche had built or asked to have built! FANTASTIC video guys! Keep up the great work👍👌
Such an interesting & informative content! More of this please
that 16 cylinder must sound crazy!!!
Fantastic! Keep up the good work and video's on You Tube - Cheers from Adelaide, South Australia
Great video please keep them coming.
damn!! thank you for the video classic bmws is always is spectacular
usual cars with unusual machines, amazing！
Great seeing the SA number plate!
Really interesting and enjoyable to watch. BMW Model history can be a bit confusing for laymen like myself, but finding out from the experts is fun.
so interesting thanks for sharing, I didn't know about any of these machines... VERY VERY cool!
Another fantastic video! But more video's please!
Great episode, thank you!
It would be great to see an episode about cars that other BMW executives used in different times
Excellent video! We love the 7 series!
Love the V16
It would be lovely if you could do a video on the 8 series from the 90s. I absolutely love it. Thank you very much.
The hey day, wow wish bmw would go back to the golden era..
Unless it has been requested before there is supposed to be an E34 touring with the S70 in it, we want that! :D
Don't forget about the E34 convertible prototype. Definitely worth a look.
Damn even BMW museum cars have false M badges on! 😂
great video, s38 3.9L awesome
First time I see a prpof of the 3.9 liter M5 E34 engine. Finally! How many where made of that particular engine? 10? I know it was fitted in M5 E34🎉
Love the Goldfish.
Back when BMW made nice cars... love the E32
Really enjoyed this great video thanks 😆
Kind Regards from Australia BMWDCM
Sacred halls - these cars are unbeliveable. Are there somehow bookable tours to see these classic cars apart from the regular BMW museum display?
It’s been a while since you posted a video! Keep the good videos coming
SA had the coolest specials.
Those tires!!!
Amazing video!! Have you thought of ever making an episode in other country?
That E32 with M5 engine what a beast unfortunately only 1 exists
super cool videos! love bmw classics
Pretty interesting history of the south african 7 and the "alpina+" e32 :)
Marc, so when will you be releasing your next video like these about prototypes and special care? I am very excited to find out what other FANTASTIC vehicles that Paul Rosche and others have produced!!!
3:03 "Camshaft-Paul", it's been in a whole lot of English automotive literature and reporting.
When I hear of Paul Rosche I get goosebumps.
I am glad South African BMW is here, we have more rare BMWs like the e30 333i and 325is with e30 M3 suspension and 2.7Alpina motor, and the first unofficial M bmw the 530MLE
Great video, more prototypes please, are there any e24 prototypes. 👍🏻😀
My old time favourite era...635CSi, 323i, 745i....
Those throwing Star wheels at 2:39 also came on my 850CSi as OEM. What would we call the V-16? M70B67? I'm sure the "Goldfish" didn't go into production because it was nose heavy as hell and we still got the same power out of the 2 valve OBDI V-12 S70B56 in the 850CSi. Hopefully they do an episode on my E31's. I had the first M73 powered car and a one of a kind 850CSi, both restored to showroom condition with end of production OEM updates.
Paul Rosche's nickname was called "Nocken Paul" which translated means "Camshaft Paul." Paul Rosche passed away in 2016. Paul was famous for developing BMW's most iconic M brand engines, including the M88 in the M1, the S14 in the E30 M3 and while not technically an M car engine, also engineered the Turbo M10 four cylinder found in the original 2002 Turbo.
The story of Paul Rosche is so much cooler. Rosche also designed the M12/13 engine which was a racing variant of the more normal M10 engine which was used in the E10 and E21 models, among others. The M12/13 engine was used by the F1 team Brabham in their BT52, BT53, BT54, BT55 and BT56 models. The team owner was Bernie Ecclestone (former chief executive of the Formula One Group, which manages Formula One motor racing and controls the commercial rights to the sport) and the chief engineer was none other than Gordon Murray. The M12/13 straight-four of only 1499 cm3 produced at best up to 1500 HP and 1250 Nm in the qualifying runs, but was detuned to 850-900 HP in the actual races. Paul Rosche also designed the legendary S70/2 V12 engine in the McLaren F1, which was also designed by Gordon Murray.
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Sorry to be the wiseguy.🤣
Nockenwelle = camshaft
Nocke = cam
So the translated nickname should be „Cam Paul“, perhaps “Paul the Cam“ would be a bit more colloquial.
E38 is the best looking 7 series to date
Nice video. But I would like to hear more details about the cars. Video could be 15 or 20 mins
When will you be releasing the video of this series? It'd been a month and would really like to see a new video of more of these interesting prototypes or one-offs of Paul Rocher
Would love to hear the start up of the v16
Wow, didn't know they did a V16... Was this before Czeta?
Thankyou
Is a 733i a good find with e23 engine ?
Amazing!
First 2 would be my pick.
Goldfish is very cool but not practical.
Agreed. If you think feeding twelve cylinders at the pump is expensive, try feeding sixteen of them. Thankfully the modern S55 and the S65 can beat those numbers with just six or eight cylinders instead of sixteen. Not exactly Prius gas mileage but certainly more gas friendly than the Goldfish.
@@houseofno i think the V16 is about the same as the V12 gas wise. Unless you race it.
Ive had a 750i e32. Try filling it up (100L) at corona times. It would have been +€200 to fill up 🙈🙈
@@SSFproductions1 I doubt it. Those extra four cylinders don't eat for free anymore than the other twelve do. My car is the iL the long body. That's an extra four inches on the rear doors and another four hundred pounds on the curb weight.
Love that e32 prototype - however come on BMW - the throwing stars are on the wrong way on the front wheels!!! i'm guessing the wheels should be swapped side to side 👍
Der E32 ist auf jeden Fall Königsklasse, aber die vorderen Felgen sind falschrum montiert, dass sollte man beheben. Sonst einfach genial mit dem S38!
3:01 Cam(shaft) Paulie
I want to hear what the V16 sounds like it!
Tell us more about the e34 in the back plz
Nice rust on the front of the second E32:)
What beauty so elegant , compare to 2023 XM.
I wish you guys could help me figure out what my 1986 m535i .....
Sympathisch ihr beiden 🙏
Gerne mehr in der Form, Musik im Hintergrund darf aber nach meinem Geschmack gern weggelassen werden 😌
Does the Goldfish also derive part of its name from the engineer who developed the engine, Adolf Fischer? I thought that was a part of the story as well!
I'm a BMW passionate soul and I was today old seeing that V16 goldfish 😮😳😮😳😮😳😮😳😮😳😮
Please ask bmw to remanufacture the intank fuel pump for 635csi...Europe with twist lock fitting as these are now stopping lots of classic 635csi from being used.😢
wow
Goldfish
E32 sedans are among my favorite BMW designs ever. Sad to see the convoluted, awkward designs coming out of BMW today. The new cars won’t age gracefully like these cars.
How many cars come in with extra M badges on them I wonder?
So Paul Rosche's nickname was "Nocken Paul"? So the translation would be "Camshaft Paul" ??? Nice lol!
Where is test drive BMW M8 E31??!! You promised us😭
You speak English with German accent! That's nice!
One must be Paul Rosche. Just ask your department to build you a car you want and use it for private purposes. Very nice times...
I know the all brown proto stickers were replaced with brown on white ones in the 00's, and I think now proto cars just carry BMW Group stickers? If anyone has more details on these please message me
Who put E34 in the timeline? Hmmmmm....
Omg an E32 with a 3.9L straight six M engine! What a lucky human who drove that.
I had this automobile vor my wedding it was a 728 i
Can we actually donate our old BMWs to BMW Group Classic. I would love to retire mine one day from active service into your capable hands.
Due to model bloat, the classic collection is housed inside the shell of a 2024 5 series
We need better parts support from BMW classic.
Gibt's das Video auch in einer ordentlichen Sprache?
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In the 1980's BMW stated they want to build in limited production. The new BMW's are no good. Should of kept the 1980 models similar to Porsche 911.
And now wie have the i7🙈🙈🙈
Ah, "non-original" M badges even present at the BMW Museum
As an apology for the horrible cars BMW has put out over the last 5-10 years (fwd 2 series, all the SUVs, the new 3&5&7 series, S55 crank hub issues, abandoning N/A inline 6s, etc) you could at least do us the kindness of removing those M badges.
I like your flimsy German pronunciation and sincere effort to appear relaxed and fresh 🤭Negligibilities aside: Another nice insight into an era of BMW cars of exuberant character that ended a long long time ago.
If there’s no ZHP in this video then it’s not a complete one.