Hilarious back then they would completely redo the car and put a V12 in it and its still not good enough for an M badge but now every little trim upgrade comes with 5 of them.
@@JasonCammisa Absolutely thank you. The image of you pulling your seatbelt on in sheer discomfort at the video you saw while sitting in a stationary car was pure genius and will stick with me for a long, long time.
Much more informative and entertaining than even Demuro. Why isn’t Camissa getting greater followers? His content is incredible for not only content but production value.
@@hazardeur also according to his LinkedIn page he attended the Frankfurt International School and studied German in University. He lists full professional proficiency for German under language skills. So it’s not just familiarity with the accent.
The only problem with Haggerty is feeling like I have to dig through the bin to find the ones by Cammisa. Don't get me wrong, the bin is in a high end store, but the Cammisa videos are the ones I really want.
I don't know how much I'd trust his facts though. Chrysler was the first one who made a vehicle with a CAN bus back in the 80s with the K Cars. Maybe he meant to say that it was the first German car to have a CAN bus.
@@mastrdrver Yeah, as good as he is, he does tend to miss bits here and there. Certainly not so many as to be egregious or even noticeable, but still important.
I sat in an 850 CSI in Phoenix AZ when I was in the military, it was like sitting in the cockpit of a fighter jet. It was all black, gorgeous. I could not start it though, it was sold. That V12 looked absolutely huge back then under the hood. Great job as usual Jason.
80's and 90's BMW was the peak of automotive design. I don't care what anyone says, no brand made so many beautiful cars that all aged perfectly in such a small amount of time.
I‘d count Mercedes of that era to that. W201, W123 and W124 are timeless, potentially even a little more than BMWs of that time, given that you see a lot more of them on the road still (at least in Germany). But I definitely agree, this was a great time for BMW.
A lot of manufacturers peaked then. What do you want your car to do. Start stop and keep you dry. Everything else is superfluous. Modern cars are living rooms. I love my 20 year old Audi A3 tfsi quattro. Not quite the same era but... There's nothing distracting just driving.
This is complete nostalgia for me. Growing up working at a Merc/BMW/Porsche/Audi dealer in the late 80s early 90s was bliss...but I didn't know it was bliss until many years later. To have driven the first sequential turbo 911 and 928S, the Merc 600SL, a top Trim Audi 90 with the 20v turbo engine and manual gear box, and a 1988 BMW M5 on a twisty (at times) stretch of highway at triple digits speeds (at times)...and even a early version of the Lexus LS 400 at it's top speed on a really long stretch of road... man I had it good ~ grateful. Cars nowadays are...well... other-worldly
As someone with an E31 (840ci) the amount of looks and interest this car gets on the road is crazy. It's no miata but for a 90's GT car the place it shines even by todays standards is on the late night highway...
@zakvantuyl1769 between the older 750 and a 850 are my favorite bmws ... is the 850 v12 motor and tranny service bombs with maintenance and the cost of it ?
Jason Cammisa is the hero we desperately need but don't deserve. Now I have to thumb wrestle myself when I have to decide between watching this for the 10th time or watching the 500E episode for the 12th time. Absolutely brilliant!
Hi Jason, I’m reaching out from the small country of Georgia. I hope this message finds you. I just wanted to take a moment to express my appreciation for all the incredible work you do in the automotive world. Your passion and expertise in the realm of cars are truly inspiring. Your deep knowledge, engaging content, and genuine enthusiasm not only enhance the appreciation of automotive culture but also make it accessible and exciting for enthusiasts everywhere. Thank you for sharing your insights and for your dedication to celebrating and elevating the world of cars. Keep up the fantastic work! ❤
The E31 is an absolutely beautiful car with stunning lines and curves. My neighbour had a red 850 and it was in immaculate condition. We used to roam around in it every weekend just to keep it running. He kept very good care of it and we would detail it together with my E39 M5. The ride was amazing and it's an extremely enjoyable car to own.
As a young teen car nut/BMW freak in the 90’s, I never knew the 850CSi was as rare as it was, but I still remember a picture from the catalog that I loved. It was this shade of blue, with parchment leather interior. So class.
someone in my city had one, same color/leather interior. it was glorious to get stuck in traffic with every great once in a while. the vehicle was pure beauty from every angle. i'm sure i was hardly the only young man that drooled like a lunatic at the thing. /am a bit older than you are but was a young teen car freak not many years earlier, and didn't exactly stop being a car freak. ever.
@@JasonCammisa Of course you do! You think we would give you a CSI badge? No way! Now do a video on the rarity of the Manual M6 v10... You just made the 650CSI unaffordable.... may as well put the manual v10 M6 out of reach while you're at it.
I had a 91 850i with the six-speed manual. So glad I got to experience that car for a few years. I had eibach springs on it, larger brakes, Turner Motorsports ECU tune and no catalytic converters. Sounded so much better than stock. What a wonderful sweet driving car. I know it was no M8 but at least with those modifications I can honestly say it definitely was not a boring car, not a hooligan super fun rocket ship or anything but actually entertaining.
What a car! I was burdened with the 4sp auto behind the V12. Was a great road car but a bit on the slow/quiet side and it cost about $3 per mile to drive. Now for masochistic fun I have a 6sp swapped E38 sport.
Jason is arguably the most relevant automotive journalist of our time. A national treasure. This video is a masterpiece and even stands out by Jason’s own high standards. Bravo. And oh…..thank you.
I remember the 850i presentation at my local BMW dealer, an 850i was parked next to a 635CSI and the 6 series looked like an antique car next to that spaceship, that was my impression at the time.
Cammisa is easily the best car guy on youtube. I watch other car videos when i get a chance but i watch Camissa as soon as i get notification that it's on.
Jason Camissa gives me the feels. He was a young care enthusiast when I was and seems to know every model I worshipped and everything I loved about those cars when I was young. He is of the highest magnitude on car stuff and should be a multi millionaire for his skills.
FINALLY THE E31 EPISODE!!! You bought one of the best colors too. As an E31 owner it makes me happy to see more new content on it and I can't wait to see the inevitable Carmudgeon episode talking more about it 🤣.
Man oh man the infamous V12 8 series …I had two of them as a kid in the 90s. Parked them next to each other in my diecast collection 😂😂😂….However at the tinder age of 20 I got my first V12 a 1997 Mercedes S600 Coupe. I flew down to Miami and drove it back to home to Virginia Beach. Man those were the days 😎👍🏽
Funny that you speak of the c140 Mercedes coupe …I think that car is the most beautiful pillar less coupe ever made. The V12 badge on the C pillar of the 600 was legendary 👍🏽
Thank you Jason for another banger of a video! If anyone is interested in checking out the one-off E31 BMW M8, it's currently at display in the Dutch Louwman Museum in The Hague Netherlands. You can admire it right until the 1st of September this year. You can temporarily get to see the only road legal Toyota GT-One as well! Good stuff!
Among all the other great things in this video (as usual), wow the sound of that V12 during the drive at the end. One of the best things about Jason's videos is hearing these older engines revving out during those end-of-video drives.
Great video Mr Cammisa! And I love this whole format and style. As a kid who grew up nerding out on documentaries. I love the Bill Nye, or Alton Brown type approach you take to explaining the technical aspects in an entertaining way. I can also appreciate that I was too young when this car came out to understand what made it so special. Thanks Jason, and more of this content please!
Camissa never disappoints... ever! Definitely one of the best automotive journalists/commenters/influencers in the biz. I loved the episode and that beautiful car. ❤
@MiGujack3 Cars today are waaaay more reliable. Trust me, I have driven only BMWs since 96. Only there was no TH-cam for people to spred wrong information.
Never knew they were that rare! In the early 2000's I had an E36 M3 as did my best friend who was a service advisor at BMW San Antonio where I always hung out. Another service advisor owned a Red 850csi and it was just stunning to look at. Never rode in it but I did ride in white 850i. That V12 is effortless and has gobs of torque.
When I was in high school, a friend’s dad’s friend had a 850csi that he twin turbo charged. Never rode in it, but used to see it ripping around town all the time. Thing sounded awesome and was a monster apparently.
I absolutely ADORE my 850i. Favorite car I’ve ever had. Chips & exhaust make these perfect. The 6 speed gearbox feels great, the engines in these have so much character & it’s genuinely a pretty reliable car. I’ve done 3500 miles in mine including a road trip & it’s been great. This car will always be such a poster car for me.
This is officially my favorite video Jason. You got my favorite car. You got a lot of stuff that makes sense to me in your explanation about Germans and noise, which I am a German who cannot stand excessive noise.... This has been a zen moment in my life seeing the car that I love and understanding something about myself and why I love some things even more Jason. Thank you!🎉
Like all Jason Camissa videos I was grinning from the get-go, but completely LOST IT (at 09:48) with the stylish designer from Germany impression! 😆🤣 Well done and thanks as always Jason and Co!
@@JasonCammisa Well I'm old enough to remember and if the glasses and black shirt didn't give it away it was the "this story has become tiresome" line that cemented it. Brilliantly done by the way, I laughed out loud.
@jasoncammisa is now my new favourite car show host now that Clarkson retired, but honestly, I would watch both. Knowledgeable and entertaining, with a great sense of humour and the driving skills to go with it. Plus, he does his own thing in his own style. Refreshing and a pleasure to watch.
You made me shed a tear, after witnessing this beautiful symphony. You shift the gears very well. I love BMW, thank you fur sharing your driving experience!
The BMW E31 is such a timeless car and truly 1 of a kind!! it's just a shame that they didn't think about releasing the 850CSI from the start. Also Thanks to Hagerty for another fantastic video! Possibly the best video of a BMW E31 you could find!
This was BMW’s inflection point. They started out making drivers cars disguised as luxury cars. The 8 series is when they started making luxury cars disguised as drivers cars. They had a segment cornered, but wasted too much time and money trying to take market share from Mercedes. They lost their way.
I lived in Germany for 3 years as a kid and my dad got really good at his German impression. This brought back a but of memories and laughter. thank you. Oh and my Great uncle had one of these cars in black. I saw it once. Never forgot it.
I have been waiting for another episode so BADLY... I LOVE these shows. My god you guys are amazing! I remember driving past a Hagerty building here close to Denver where I live and I was like I wanna work for them. I saw y'all were hiring for some IT guys, but I didn't make the cut. I was so sad, but at least I have this show!
So the M8 is the forefather to the i8 - showcase of new tech and beauty that transcends performance. A flex This hurts my brain because I love both of these cars!
@@erics8192 Absolutely agree. Yet, the public discussion focussed a lot to sustainability and environmental friendlyness in Germany at the time. The big three manufacturers (VW/Audi, BMW, Merc) came under a lot of pressure. This was at its peak with the defeat device scandal and later with the "Friday for Future" protests. I always thought this was a very hollow discussion, because maybe left leaning elites thought like this, but the majority of the people dont wished for a 3 cylinder high performance sportscar. And the rich elites would rather buy a Tesla or a Fisker. Or a Porsche SUV. lol The i3 and the i8 were flagship projects. A show off of technology and capability. They were constructed mostly out of carbon fiber, which was also to save the carbon fiber manufacturer in the portfolio of Susanne Klatten (she owns roughly 12% of the BMW group). She had invested a lot into SGL Carbon and the company was at risk.
Fantastic video. That 850CSI is a PERFECT car. Stunning design and proportions. No words for how good it looks. THANK YOU for the driving portion at the end.
Another Camisa and Hagerty home run. I do remember this car. I was a kid when this came out. Car and Driver did a comparison befween it and the flared hip 928 GTS. The Porsche won. I want both!
This car was originally designed for executives to drive from meeting to meeting as fast as possible via autobahn. Noise and handling not required. My mates dad had one and my girlfriends dad had one. They would have meetings all over germany, they'd hit the autobahn, set cruise control to 200 and go.
fantastic vid. As a bmw fan, i may have been aware of this model of the 8-series at one time, but it had completely slipped my mind. GREAT refresh, thanks hagerty
I don’t care that it’s quiet, it is so gorgeous. I remember seeing one of these (an 850i) back then, it was as if the woman in red walked by… stopped in my tracks, jaw dropped and I couldn’t stop staring at it. Such an understated beauty. Still today, the best looking coupe ever built.
I always understood and felt its distinctive quiet ride as a part of specific "gentleman's" car personality I trully adore. Maybe because when was a kid the KITT my car hero was also quietly superfast too!
From a small selection of previous Hagerty videos, I thought Jason was enjoyable enough to watch... this one took it to 11 and then some! Automotive entertainment at its finest. And what a story to boot!
Either BMW has lost its design edge or all other manufacturers have finally caught up, because they simply don't make cars as beautiful or timeless as the 90s and early 2000s!
I don't care if Jason commentates on paint drying on an obscure channel shot exclusively in 480 black and white, I'd still watch the crap out of it. This man's talents are immeasurable!!
Great review of a little known niche of BMW. Congrats on adding this M8 to your family, Jason. 👍🏼👏 Thanks Hagerty for giving Jason a platform to keep these automotive legends alive in our hearts. ❤
Hagerty, as well as JASON..... can bring the perspective of the early 90's so relevant. This triggered so much for me from the 90's, and even '80s I can not experes here. Keep going Jason!!!...you are the reason I watch Hagerty videos, you know how to bring the correct light to these so loved cars.
I started watching Jason due to these fantastic series. I’m from Australia and had no idea who he was. I Really thought he was doing some great work but didn’t think much more of it and honestly kinda thought he’s good but so are many other TH-cam presenters. Then the whole cyber truck incident happened. Watching him talk on Matt’s pod cast really opened my eyes to his talents and abilities to stay factual under pressure. Jason you’re an a++ journalist and sadly a dying bread. thanks for producing fantastic content that I can trust and is entertaining.
Hilarious back then they would completely redo the car and put a V12 in it and its still not good enough for an M badge but now every little trim upgrade comes with 5 of them.
They stick M-badges on M-Sport models like smiley face stickers on an honor student's report card. Ridiculous.
They learned their lesson, unfortunately
Back then the "M" badge stands for Motorsport, but now it stands for Moneygrab
I foolishly bought a 320 msport. Luckily I crashed it at 20mph, bent the wheel and the airbag popped so it was a write-off. Such a boring car.
You're totally wrong. Even back then you could option a lot of cars with M badges without being a M car.
“We could do a whole episode on the rear suspension”. Ok. Do that. I’m here for it.
We need it! The E31 was the first car to use multilink rear suspension, and it was so good that nowadays nearly every car has it
Yes please I'd like to learn!
@@michu6777 every DECENT car has it. Most just use cheap tirsion/trailing arms
@@michu6777 multilink was introduced by Mercedes years before on the 190E
@@longde i stand corrected, good to know
Honestly Camissa is one of the greatest motoring show hosts, this series could hold its own on national television.
Awesome video Hagerty team
THANK YOU!
@@JasonCammisa No, no, thank you!
@@JasonCammisa Absolutely thank you. The image of you pulling your seatbelt on in sheer discomfort at the video you saw while sitting in a stationary car was pure genius and will stick with me for a long, long time.
Much more informative and entertaining than even Demuro. Why isn’t Camissa getting greater followers? His content is incredible for not only content but production value.
He’s got a thing about his speech like Clarkson that is 👌
his skill in making a mock german accent is really insane. spot on
He speaks German fluently, so that probably helps a bit.
@@LS3ftw15 an american with an italien name speaks german flawlessly? interesting, how come?
@@hazardeur Jason has lived in Germany as a teenager because of his parents’ work 😀 He gets a lot of European pronunciations and accents quite right!
@@mopsnuf indeed! thanks for the info dude-.
@@hazardeur also according to his LinkedIn page he attended the Frankfurt International School and studied German in University. He lists full professional proficiency for German under language skills. So it’s not just familiarity with the accent.
The only problem with Haggerty is feeling like I have to dig through the bin to find the ones by Cammisa. Don't get me wrong, the bin is in a high end store, but the Cammisa videos are the ones I really want.
Maybe one day he can do his own channel. The Jason stuff is all I watch from here, he’s an amazing story teller and really fun to watch
Some of the other stuff is pretty good…they put so much more production and effort into the Cammisa stuff.
It has gotten to the point that the ONLY car subect videos I watch are the ones that are done by Jason. Camissa for cars and Fortnine for Bikes.
I don't know how much I'd trust his facts though. Chrysler was the first one who made a vehicle with a CAN bus back in the 80s with the K Cars. Maybe he meant to say that it was the first German car to have a CAN bus.
@@mastrdrver Yeah, as good as he is, he does tend to miss bits here and there. Certainly not so many as to be egregious or even noticeable, but still important.
The episode we've been waiting for. Much deserved love for the E31 & CSi! Fantastisch job!
@@M539Restorations love your channel so much
You made the connection happen buddy. Forever thanks
sir, you are a legend!!!
Legend, for men.
@M539Restorations Sreten always uses the word "episode" 😉
Nice to find you back here !
Where nice BMW's are, Sreten is never far 😄
That driving scene at the end looked extremely enjoyable.
He's not afraid to ring it out because that's actually his car. He bought it a couple months ago.
He's not afraid to ring it out because that's his car. He bought it a couple months ago.
@@sputumtube rev it high
Is that a CEL on the dash? If so, it’s surely a classic BMW 😂. Still love it ❤
@@sputumtubehe did change gear several times, upshift and downshift. It’s just that smooth.
I feel like I should get college credits for this episode... Well done Professor!
Or you know, get an M badge
Finally someone who can pronounce German names and present an impeccable impersonation of German English at the same time. Bravo!
@@SoldererOfFortune afaik Jason studied in Germany and has a bachelor’s in german language so it makes sense.
Don’t let Camissa out of your reach (Haggerty)
He is a legend at this.
I sat in an 850 CSI in Phoenix AZ when I was in the military, it was like sitting in the cockpit of a fighter jet. It was all black, gorgeous. I could not start it though, it was sold. That V12 looked absolutely huge back then under the hood. Great job as usual Jason.
80's and 90's BMW was the peak of automotive design. I don't care what anyone says, no brand made so many beautiful cars that all aged perfectly in such a small amount of time.
I‘d count Mercedes of that era to that. W201, W123 and W124 are timeless, potentially even a little more than BMWs of that time, given that you see a lot more of them on the road still (at least in Germany).
But I definitely agree, this was a great time for BMW.
A lot of manufacturers peaked then. What do you want your car to do. Start stop and keep you dry. Everything else is superfluous. Modern cars are living rooms. I love my 20 year old Audi A3 tfsi quattro. Not quite the same era but... There's nothing distracting just driving.
Those cars were so bland and boring. The G2x and G8x are the best looking they’ve ever done.
No
RX7 is one of the most timeless designs of that era
The best automotive journalist/personality in the world right now delivering yet again. Excellent!
The 850 was so beautiful. My college roommate’s dad had one. Amazing lines and still one of the most beautiful BMW ever made
Agreed a great bit of styling
This is complete nostalgia for me. Growing up working at a Merc/BMW/Porsche/Audi dealer in the late 80s early 90s was bliss...but I didn't know it was bliss until many years later. To have driven the first sequential turbo 911 and 928S, the Merc 600SL, a top Trim Audi 90 with the 20v turbo engine and manual gear box, and a 1988 BMW M5 on a twisty (at times) stretch of highway at triple digits speeds (at times)...and even a early version of the Lexus LS 400 at it's top speed on a really long stretch of road... man I had it good ~ grateful. Cars nowadays are...well... other-worldly
Didn't know I needed a german steve jobs impression until now
It makes me feel old that people don't realize he's impersonating Mike Myers on SNL.
Swing and a miss. It's Dieter from Schprockets.
@@Jason_Quinn
Yah, und dis Deter needs a Büstenhalter. lol!
@@williamreinhard Sprockets!
Hahahah I'm dead, he is good at doing an Adam Sandler impression too
As someone with an E31 (840ci) the amount of looks and interest this car gets on the road is crazy. It's no miata but for a 90's GT car the place it shines even by todays standards is on the late night highway...
It's such an incredibly sharp machine, especially in black, especially at night. Still looks like a spaceship way ahead of its time.
the low hood and flip up headlights gets them everytime.
@zakvantuyl1769 between the older 750 and a 850 are my favorite bmws ... is the 850 v12 motor and tranny service bombs with maintenance and the cost of it ?
Jason Cammisa is the hero we desperately need but don't deserve. Now I have to thumb wrestle myself when I have to decide between watching this for the 10th time or watching the 500E episode for the 12th time. Absolutely brilliant!
Hi Jason, I’m reaching out from the small country of Georgia. I hope this message finds you.
I just wanted to take a moment to express my appreciation for all the incredible work you do in the automotive world. Your passion and expertise in the realm of cars are truly inspiring. Your deep knowledge, engaging content, and genuine enthusiasm not only enhance the appreciation of automotive culture but also make it accessible and exciting for enthusiasts everywhere.
Thank you for sharing your insights and for your dedication to celebrating and elevating the world of cars. Keep up the fantastic work! ❤
The E31 is an absolutely beautiful car with stunning lines and curves. My neighbour had a red 850 and it was in immaculate condition. We used to roam around in it every weekend just to keep it running. He kept very good care of it and we would detail it together with my E39 M5. The ride was amazing and it's an extremely enjoyable car to own.
Jason is the only person that would make me drop everything that I’m doing to watch his video
Jason for cars, Andrew Morgan for wristwatches, and High Yield for tech.
This time he had four german ladies to draw lipstick marks on his face!!!.
He’s great does he have his own YT channel?
#facts
I hope you don't have a newborn baby 😅
As a german I like how Jason pronounce the english words, made my day! 🤣
Gerne.... sänk juh werri matsch!
@@JasonCammisa Sprachtalent 🫶 One more time a very entertaining and well researched video. Greetings from München ✌️
@@JasonCammisa Took me a second longer than I'd like to admit. Great vid, and appreciate the Motor Week clip!
Yes, this is ausgezeichnet. I see this as an appreciation of our lovely culture and stereotypes XD
@@JasonCammisa Bergisch Gladbach 😂 Was verheimlichst Du uns?
As a young teen car nut/BMW freak in the 90’s, I never knew the 850CSi was as rare as it was, but I still remember a picture from the catalog that I loved. It was this shade of blue, with parchment leather interior. So class.
someone in my city had one, same color/leather interior. it was glorious to get stuck in traffic with every great once in a while. the vehicle was pure beauty from every angle.
i'm sure i was hardly the only young man that drooled like a lunatic at the thing.
/am a bit older than you are but was a young teen car freak not many years earlier, and didn't exactly stop being a car freak. ever.
this made fall in love with 8 series even more, what an amazing video, hats off to this guy
The production values of these movies, the humor, Jason himself - and the pure car sound at the end - all is top notch!
thats such a dream car in a rare color too...like the blue better than the black
The red was also amazing!
Jason, you're the M version of automotive journalism.
Yeah, but do I get an //M Badge?! :P (Thanks!)
@@JasonCammisa congrats Jason. I can only think of two other people in the world better suited to own this vehicle. We are very happy for you!!
@@JasonCammisaU get an AMG one😉
😁
@@JasonCammisa Of course you do! You think we would give you a CSI badge? No way! Now do a video on the rarity of the Manual M6 v10... You just made the 650CSI unaffordable.... may as well put the manual v10 M6 out of reach while you're at it.
I had a 91 850i with the six-speed manual. So glad I got to experience that car for a few years. I had eibach springs on it, larger brakes, Turner Motorsports ECU tune and no catalytic converters. Sounded so much better than stock. What a wonderful sweet driving car. I know it was no M8 but at least with those modifications I can honestly say it definitely was not a boring car, not a hooligan super fun rocket ship or anything but actually entertaining.
What a car! I was burdened with the 4sp auto behind the V12. Was a great road car but a bit on the slow/quiet side and it cost about $3 per mile to drive. Now for masochistic fun I have a 6sp swapped E38 sport.
Jason is arguably the most relevant automotive journalist of our time. A national treasure. This video is a masterpiece and even stands out by Jason’s own high standards. Bravo. And oh…..thank you.
I remember the 850i presentation at my local BMW dealer, an 850i was parked next to a 635CSI and the 6 series looked like an antique car next to that spaceship, that was my impression at the time.
Best car show series on TH-cam. He needs to host more shows.
Informative and comedic timing is unmatched.
MAN we needed a video on this car. This car is one of the reasons why i want a Supra MK3. These lines are AMAZING.
you know, if you get a Supra Mk3 and swap it with the Century V12……
MK3 Supra is the best looking of all the Supras
Big coupes with pop up headlights, AH! But, MK3 Supra is a bit smaller than E31 in person.
@@devandrasimanjuntak1646 That's a good one, 5.0L V12 that makes 300hp as well.
Cammisa is easily the best car guy on youtube. I watch other car videos when i get a chance but i watch Camissa as soon as i get notification that it's on.
Jason Camissa gives me the feels. He was a young care enthusiast when I was and seems to know every model I worshipped and everything I loved about those cars when I was young. He is of the highest magnitude on car stuff and should be a multi millionaire for his skills.
By far Jason is the best of them all on TH-cam. Every video is simply on point.
FINALLY THE E31 EPISODE!!! You bought one of the best colors too. As an E31 owner it makes me happy to see more new content on it and I can't wait to see the inevitable Carmudgeon episode talking more about it 🤣.
This is so much better than boring drag races…More videos like this please !
Man oh man the infamous V12 8 series …I had two of them as a kid in the 90s. Parked them next to each other in my diecast collection 😂😂😂….However at the tinder age of 20 I got my first V12 a 1997 Mercedes S600 Coupe. I flew down to Miami and drove it back to home to Virginia Beach. Man those were the days 😎👍🏽
Wake up
@@tonywong303why are you going around leaving bot 🤖 comments on random commenters comments so lame
😂Diecast collection 🚗
Funny that you speak of the c140 Mercedes coupe …I think that car is the most beautiful pillar less coupe ever made. The V12 badge on the C pillar of the 600 was legendary 👍🏽
Was... Was that a joke about folks in their 20s? Because if so. It was perfect.
thank you for the final part of V12 driving goodness with no music.
Thank you for the extended in-car footage with the glorious sound of that V12 at full song. Breathtaking.
give this man a raise his videos are the best of hagerty
Thank you Jason for another banger of a video!
If anyone is interested in checking out the one-off E31 BMW M8, it's currently at display in the Dutch Louwman Museum in The Hague Netherlands. You can admire it right until the 1st of September this year. You can temporarily get to see the only road legal Toyota GT-One as well! Good stuff!
That 635csi in the clip is automotive art - perfect design
Man these videos are pretty awesome!
Among all the other great things in this video (as usual), wow the sound of that V12 during the drive at the end. One of the best things about Jason's videos is hearing these older engines revving out during those end-of-video drives.
On the best wheels BMW ever made too, Style 37 M-Parallels
@merciless9285 and each one has it's own M badge. They're tiny, but they're there, if only the potential customers knew...
@@gerjanbaan6418
new?
Yes it was once a new car.
BMW Style 21 are the ones I would have for the E21. But yeah, respect to the M-Parallel S 37.
Jason Cammisa is the best
Thank you!
the E31 8-Series has been my favorite car forever.. always love to see it getting attention
Most sexy BMW alive
Great video Mr Cammisa! And I love this whole format and style. As a kid who grew up nerding out on documentaries. I love the Bill Nye, or Alton Brown type approach you take to explaining the technical aspects in an entertaining way. I can also appreciate that I was too young when this car came out to understand what made it so special. Thanks Jason, and more of this content please!
Camissa never disappoints... ever! Definitely one of the best automotive journalists/commenters/influencers in the biz. I loved the episode and that beautiful car. ❤
FINALLY!! Another Cammisa upload 🙌🏽
Yeah, I thought he might have flown the coop.
@@cbotten106 What? Naaah, new Carmudgeon Show every monday (go sub to that channel!) and every third Thursday over here!
This was when BMW had great style and engineering
Before the beaver teeth
And reliability.
@@ccoedo808 the remind me more of Chick Hicks from Cars
Yep. Until 2001 when BMW made Z8, E39, E38, E46
@MiGujack3 Cars today are waaaay more reliable. Trust me, I have driven only BMWs since 96. Only there was no TH-cam for people to spred wrong information.
That German accent gets me every time. Absolutely flawless.
Amazing as always. This one is a bucket list drive for me. One of the great cars ever made.
Never knew they were that rare! In the early 2000's I had an E36 M3 as did my best friend who was a service advisor at BMW San Antonio where I always hung out. Another service advisor owned a Red 850csi and it was just stunning to look at. Never rode in it but I did ride in white 850i. That V12 is effortless and has gobs of torque.
Reitzle was one of the greatest automotive managers! Did great things at BMW!
When I was in high school, a friend’s dad’s friend had a 850csi that he twin turbo charged. Never rode in it, but used to see it ripping around town all the time. Thing sounded awesome and was a monster apparently.
I absolutely ADORE my 850i. Favorite car I’ve ever had. Chips & exhaust make these perfect. The 6 speed gearbox feels great, the engines in these have so much character & it’s genuinely a pretty reliable car. I’ve done 3500 miles in mine including a road trip & it’s been great. This car will always be such a poster car for me.
I’m 53. I remember these.
I’d have a V12 850 in a heartbeat. They were spectacular things new. I’ve actually got them saved as a Carsales search…
This is officially my favorite video Jason. You got my favorite car. You got a lot of stuff that makes sense to me in your explanation about Germans and noise, which I am a German who cannot stand excessive noise....
This has been a zen moment in my life seeing the car that I love and understanding something about myself and why I love some things even more Jason. Thank you!🎉
Like all Jason Camissa videos I was grinning from the get-go, but completely LOST IT (at 09:48) with the stylish designer from Germany impression! 😆🤣 Well done and thanks as always Jason and Co!
Reminiscent of Dieter from Sprockets a recurring SNL skit performed by Mike Meyers.
@@alangil40 Bingo!
@@JasonCammisa Well I'm old enough to remember and if the glasses and black shirt didn't give it away it was the "this story has become tiresome" line that cemented it. Brilliantly done by the way, I laughed out loud.
Me too
One of the most iconic automotive content producer doing a review of one of the most iconic BMWs in history. Not bad! 🍿🍿
Ah the "lipstick on a pig" analogy. I gotchu Jason lol.
suits him well.
@@memertmemes2586 Truffles anyone. 🐷
we all got it.
Jason you outdid yourself with that Schnitzel rant in the middle. Frikkin' Gold!
@jasoncammisa is now my new favourite car show host now that Clarkson retired, but honestly, I would watch both. Knowledgeable and entertaining, with a great sense of humour and the driving skills to go with it. Plus, he does his own thing in his own style. Refreshing and a pleasure to watch.
You made me shed a tear, after witnessing this beautiful symphony. You shift the gears very well. I love BMW, thank you fur sharing your driving experience!
Thank you!
That "M CAR" license plate👌🏻
The Dieter impersonation was brilliant and exactly the thing I did not know I needed. Thanks for the great videos!
This has to be the best Revelations yet!
Thoroughly enjoyable lecture. The icing on the cake at the end was sublime too.
I’m not a car guy. Jason Cammisa is the only reason I watch these. Balances details with accessibility.
The BMW E31 is such a timeless car and truly 1 of a kind!! it's just a shame that they didn't think about releasing the 850CSI from the start. Also Thanks to Hagerty for another fantastic video! Possibly the best video of a BMW E31 you could find!
This was BMW’s inflection point. They started out making drivers cars disguised as luxury cars. The 8 series is when they started making luxury cars disguised as drivers cars. They had a segment cornered, but wasted too much time and money trying to take market share from Mercedes. They lost their way.
I lived in Germany for 3 years as a kid and my dad got really good at his German impression. This brought back a but of memories and laughter. thank you. Oh and my Great uncle had one of these cars in black. I saw it once. Never forgot it.
I have been waiting for another episode so BADLY... I LOVE these shows. My god you guys are amazing! I remember driving past a Hagerty building here close to Denver where I live and I was like I wanna work for them. I saw y'all were hiring for some IT guys, but I didn't make the cut. I was so sad, but at least I have this show!
17:20 you hear similar sound to the McLaren, although you can tell it has not been tuned to perfection like the F1. Still nice though.
Love the 740i shorty sporty wheels on it. They look perfect.
So the M8 is the forefather to the i8 - showcase of new tech and beauty that transcends performance. A flex
This hurts my brain because I love both of these cars!
the i8 deserved a inline 6 engine with those looks, it might have had a shot at selling well (for the price range it was in mind you) if it did.
@@erics8192 Absolutely agree. Yet, the public discussion focussed a lot to sustainability and environmental friendlyness in Germany at the time. The big three manufacturers (VW/Audi, BMW, Merc) came under a lot of pressure. This was at its peak with the defeat device scandal and later with the "Friday for Future" protests. I always thought this was a very hollow discussion, because maybe left leaning elites thought like this, but the majority of the people dont wished for a 3 cylinder high performance sportscar. And the rich elites would rather buy a Tesla or a Fisker. Or a Porsche SUV. lol
The i3 and the i8 were flagship projects. A show off of technology and capability. They were constructed mostly out of carbon fiber, which was also to save the carbon fiber manufacturer in the portfolio of Susanne Klatten (she owns roughly 12% of the BMW group). She had invested a lot into SGL Carbon and the company was at risk.
@@Gentleman...Driver virtue signal on the i3, give the i8 the engine that it deserved
they should've made an i3 ///M with the i8's powertrain
and an i8 ///M with the S55 engine
Fantastic video. That 850CSI is a PERFECT car. Stunning design and proportions. No words for how good it looks. THANK YOU for the driving portion at the end.
Another Camisa and Hagerty home run. I do remember this car. I was a kid when this came out. Car and Driver did a comparison befween it and the flared hip 928 GTS. The Porsche won. I want both!
Revelations and Sprockets are a natural pair, like Sausage and Sauerkraut!
The Sprockets bit had me rolling
This car was originally designed for executives to drive from meeting to meeting as fast as possible via autobahn. Noise and handling not required. My mates dad had one and my girlfriends dad had one. They would have meetings all over germany, they'd hit the autobahn, set cruise control to 200 and go.
Ind€€d !!! e31 has been mostly misunderstood....
fantastic vid. As a bmw fan, i may have been aware of this model of the 8-series at one time, but it had completely slipped my mind. GREAT refresh, thanks hagerty
Superb. And if you don't have time for the whole video, just watch the last minute and a half - it tells you everything you need to know...
Awesome car!!!!
I don’t care that it’s quiet, it is so gorgeous. I remember seeing one of these (an 850i) back then, it was as if the woman in red walked by… stopped in my tracks, jaw dropped and I couldn’t stop staring at it. Such an understated beauty. Still today, the best looking coupe ever built.
It felt like seeing an exotic that you knew exactly who made it
I always understood and felt its distinctive quiet ride as a part of specific "gentleman's" car personality I trully adore. Maybe because when was a kid the KITT my car hero was also quietly superfast too!
Your German accent is spot on lmao 🎯🤣
This is a great episode. Probably my favorite, so far. I love my 6-speed E31 850i. I’d love to have an 850CSi.
From a small selection of previous Hagerty videos, I thought Jason was enjoyable enough to watch... this one took it to 11 and then some! Automotive entertainment at its finest. And what a story to boot!
Either BMW has lost its design edge or all other manufacturers have finally caught up, because they simply don't make cars as beautiful or timeless as the 90s and early 2000s!
I'd argue you on the m8 gran coupe, f8x m4, and if they put that m4 csl front bumper on the regular m4s thats my case for that at least.
The first cut is always the deepest. Are you not 40+?
their design studio isnt german anymore.
@@Keckegenkai That's true!
Blame whomever hired Chris Bangle instead of encouraging him to apply his “talents” at Pontiac instead.
Jason's German accent killed me 😂
I don't care if Jason commentates on paint drying on an obscure channel shot exclusively in 480 black and white, I'd still watch the crap out of it. This man's talents are immeasurable!!
Great review of a little known niche of BMW. Congrats on adding this M8 to your family, Jason. 👍🏼👏
Thanks Hagerty for giving Jason a platform to keep these automotive legends alive in our hearts. ❤
Hagerty, as well as JASON..... can bring the perspective of the early 90's so relevant. This triggered so much for me from the 90's, and even '80s I can not experes here. Keep going Jason!!!...you are the reason I watch Hagerty videos, you know how to bring the correct light to these so loved cars.
Can I just say that we need more Hagerty videos with Jason and german cars? His german accent cracks me up 😂
I love the " schprockets" dance.
I got to dive an 850i about 10 years ago. Never before was I that disappointed about driving a car. All my life I have loved it until I drove it
Never meet your heros. I had one for about a year. While a great GT it was never a good city car.
Jason, you BRING ZE GREATNESS to all your videos. They are all a mandatory watch for me.
I started watching Jason due to these fantastic series. I’m from Australia and had no idea who he was. I Really thought he was doing some great work but didn’t think much more of it and honestly kinda thought he’s good but so are many other TH-cam presenters.
Then the whole cyber truck incident happened. Watching him talk on Matt’s pod cast really opened my eyes to his talents and abilities to stay factual under pressure. Jason you’re an a++ journalist and sadly a dying bread.
thanks for producing fantastic content that I can trust and is entertaining.