Axial Ford Bronco First Mods! Shorter Shock Test
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2021
- The RTR Axial Early Ford Bronco is a great addition to the SCX10 III lineup. The stock truck has 100mm shocks which allow for lots of articulation but the truck sits fairly high in its ride height. For this we are going to run the RTR truck and then swap shocks to a 90mm to see if the different suspension setup yields in higher performance.
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I so agree with you on the overall look. I'm always a fan of something more realistic looking.
Yeah I see the big difference love the early bronco dang it thought I was done shopping for a while well we all know how that goes appreciate you sharing I love knowledge, and this hobby this is the beauty of the Hobby, Rock on
As always, great technical breakdown of both, mechanical changes and their pros/cons, as well as driver training, lol :)
Really enjoy seeing when you post something new 👍🏼
Ditto.
You sold me. Ordering through your affiliate now. Great video. So refreshing seeing someone slow down and scale crawl.
Great video, very informative. Keep up the great content!
Love your videos and information you give and testing you do. Thank-you
90's are the only way to go on this rig...and it looks so much better...great video
Hi Logan, only just watched your video on the Axial early Bronco, I was thinking of purchasing one of these trucks and after viewing your mod with the 90mm shocks I think I will.
Thanks for the content your shooting locations are magnificent keep up the good work 👍
Yeah buddy looks better already I love it, dang it !! Again appreciate you sharing, I’ll be here watching more
have been waiting on someone to do this, really made a difference on the truck, thanks
Thanks. Yeah I definitely think it helped it stay planted
Awesome video, I really enjoy seeing the head to head footage of upgrades!
Thanks it is fun to do
Really enjoyed the way you put that together....always a solid video 👍
Cheers
Thanks man!
threw the jlu transmission in mine. all metal axles with portals and hyrax beadlocks for me, and 10mm wheel spacers. love it made it so much better
Cool break down. You can really see the performance increase
Awesome and good fun presentation from rc crawling paradise, cool driving and the views on views as Stradman says, are amazing, thank you👍😁
I'm planning on getting this RTR. Thanks for this detailed video! Much appreciated.
Should be a great truck for ya!
I'm really loving the look of this little truck. My friend is running shorter shocks on his 10-3 jeep after he did the straight axle swap. The thing is way more sure footed now.
Yeah that’s basically what I did to this
I like throwing mechanical pen springs in the body of the shock under the piston/valve. It physically pulls the strut in word lessening to a lower mm shock height and has you increase your outer spring rate on the collar you’ll increase the strut length if want to. All rear shocks need to be firm to hang the wheel in a over a hole climbing up and side hill. It works really well you can buy the springs in true value ace hardware etc.
Simply just beautiful, pause I've been telling my friend to stop using 120 mm shocks or a 110 mm shock even a 100 mm is no good. On my own home build rig I put two stage 80 mm shock which I can take to 90 mm. I also used a reverse output transmission on my rig for no torque twist at all. I'm not a fan of a panhard bar with my 4-link suspension. So I didn't do a Three Links in the front and panhard Bar. I ran four links in the front and no panhard bar plus no bump steer at all with Servo on chassis. I just sat down and figured out all the problems we have with the Hobby and did away with them with my own designs. Also I didn't put any plastic on my rig just hardened steel, aluminum, and stainless steel. All in all it's a great rig if I do say so myself LOL. But yeah great video and I really like the look of the Bronco. Even though when I heard about it I was like what another Bronco LOL have a great day and don't stop crawling
That sounds like a pretty wild build man, thanks for watching
Great video. Nice footage, and good narration.
Lower definitely looks better on all of the 10iii models. I’ve thought a lot about lowering my JLU, but the trails I run most are littered with rocks and roots of all sizes. I’ve found the extra clearance more to my liking than the improved side hilling and climbing.
Those rocks I mentioned were always getting hung up on the ribs under the floor boards, so I added some steel sheet underneath to help the vehicle slide over. It has made a huge difference. I would recommend it for any 10iii.
Smooth sliders are a great upgrade. Yeah modify it for your terrain!
The first things I upgraded on mine was the steering servo, bumper mounts (brass) and front and rear bumpers👍
Great advice and video. My Bronco is preordered. I have 90 mm Desert Lizards in hand to use as my first mod when the truck arrives.
Nice you can do some fun things with dual spring
Great comparison I will definitely do that to my scx10 three bronco awesome video.
10 months later... I finally ordered one. I'll be adding a little weight the wheels and pen springs inside the shocks with thicker oil. Can't wait to get this thing on the rocks.
Really nice test and what a beautiful spot to crawl arround on.
Thanks! Yeah I enjoy the area as much as possible
Heck yeah, this is a beautiful place. RC heaven for sure I would love to come crawling there but I live in Michigan sure this is a little far away
Lots of great crawling here in Michigan!!!!
Would love to see more videos on your 10.3 bronco.i got mine used with a rc4wd metal roof and boy does it kill cg.so far I've internally limited my shocks and went with ottsix 23% overdrive and holmes motor/servo.slowly becoming my favorite truck.
Great crawl Logan. I like the bronco. . I have never owned an axial. Yet. !!!!!!!!. Christmas is coming quickly. Might be tomorow for me
Just got my 90mm's. Now inspired to put em on and run em.
great... thank you for the suggestion.
Hi! Looks, and drives more scale, i love it to! Your idea is the right way to make a good Scale Crawler better! 😎 😉 😁 👍
Both of my boys got these recently and we are looking forward to testing them out around St George in two weeks.
I would do the same upgrade. Just week ago found your channel… scx10.3 bronco review. Great content, and i like your informative style as same time crawling with the trucks. You got there great crawling spots. Keep on working these videos 💪👌
Thank you! I subbed to your channel too!
Totally agree! The shorter shocks improve performance and looks to boot. I just got my Bronco on sale for $100 off regular price, had to pull the trigger. My first upgrade (free) was adding a line of weights to the wheels. Have got to keep those nice wheels with spinners and order new shocks. My second upgrade will be installing the shorter shocks since the high center of gravity and excessive torque twist are ruining my fun. Could you tell me what shock/spring combo you used on yours?? Also ordered a Marty McFly action figure to drive it. Thanks and keep them awesome videos coming.
Nice video. Definitely suspension and tires for first mods. I can’t believe they haven’t addressed the clicking noise in the transmission yet. And they raised the prices.
Was this transmission clicking? Tires are always one of the first changes I make.
@@westdesertwheeler2666 I thought I heard it in yours, I’ve definitely heard it in other reviews of this truck.
Glad I found your video. We just got this scx10iii bronco. This torque twist is frustrating. Doesn’t all last Saturday at little Moab chasing it down the rocks. 🤬 tried a thicker shock oil tonight in that right rear shock. Still twisting. Gonna try the shorter shock when we come down to sand hollow in 2 weeks.
Very cool dude! This bronco is rad!
Thanks man, I really like driving it!
Love to see this bronco vs trx4 sport run same lines and both with same wheels and tyres 👌
Just ordered SSD 90 mm shocks for mine once I get it Hope they be shipping out soon it’s September now. ButYes will be my first upgrade again appreciate you sharing
Great video
Nice video 😉👍
I moved the shock point to the lower link and kept the 100mm socks same outcome best first mod for this thing
Love how to explain in detail 🤩
Thanks!
Nice tech review, nice driving 👍
Thank you!
I just picked one up yesterday and it looks goofy as heck at stock height. I think I might throw some pen springs in… I know it’s maybe not the right way to do things, but I tried it on my Capra and it actually worked pretty darn well.
I love this Bronco ! , realy cool " scale look " is realy cool 😉👍😃
I agree, I think it looks great!
This was GREAT stuff. Thanks for putting it up and in such a consistent manner to compare the differences. I really like the format to appreciate the improvements.
As for my first mod, being a bit of a cheapskate after dumping over five bills on one of these, how much can you gain only from underfilling the 100mm dampers, or maybe changing the oil viscosity, if that would help at all? I know the spring is the one that really gives you the ride height, but dampers can and do influence too, depending on how much they're filled, so I'm wondering how much of an impact this would have.
You can try removing the preload collar to allow the spring to sit higher up and lower the ride height
Awesome great thank You for this video
Hope Axial is paying attention! Great comparison video man. That thing looks exactly like a early bronco should with the 90mm’s, plus the the gain in performance. 👌🏻
I hope so! Lol thanks for watching
Hey Logan, cheers from Calgary Alberta, Canada. Great video, very technically informative. I stumbled across your channel, I now subscribe lol and like .. 👍
Quick question, I had heard about the shock situation on the Bronco, and you just put it to rest for me anyway. I am wondering if I need to be concerned with pivot ball fitting the new shock body upper attachment point?
Thank you Sir.
SSD recently released some brass knuckles and diff covers also aluminum c-hubs for the straight axle
IM VERY IMPRESSED SIR.
Me too! 🤘🏼
Love the videos man , can you do a review and trial run on the scx10 k5 blazer Chevy ?
I changed out shocks to 90mm axial shocks with old axial springs. Also changed wheels and tires to Dark blue bullys and KLR X4s to have that old school skinny tire look lol!!!
Great review. Can you give us links to the rock lights & 90mm shocks please?
I used to run my wheely king/crawler king with 1inch long gas tubes under the shock pistons so I didn't have to buy shorter shocks. The wk probably had larger piston diameter because no piston hole was blocked by the tubes. Maybe these crawler shocks has no room for tubes.
Hi love the video just bought one for £270 and want to change shocks like you suggest is it 90 mm hole to hole what make did you use and what shock oil should I use please
Brilliant!
What kind of shocks did you use? I would like to find something comparable. Love the videos!!
I am back watching again, just got my 90 mm shocks on, then I noticed the front driveshaft rubs right against the transmission casing it’s all Scarred up could be causing a lot of the torque twist have you noticed it on yours
Got mine ordered today, and the first upgrade will be 90 mm shocks.
Yeah I really like the stance better sitting lower, but it’s been raining here all day, ain’t had a chance to get her out and test. This is Michigan been getting a lot of rain.
I added a hot racing sway bar. I don’t remember what it was originally for tho. I drilled the rear frame and mounted through the axle truss end spaces
Interesting, hadn’t thought of a sway bar on this
Short shocks bumper drag didn't seem much worse over( or under in this case...lol) stock.... I like that...
Great video! I have some 90mm desert lizards on standby. I’m going to maybe run some heavier bead locks as well. I did think about getting some longer bolts and moving the stock shocks down to the rod links. That thing looks ten times better dropped. What shocks did you switch to?
They were Axial 90mm. Yes lowering the mount might work. The spring retainer might bind with the upper mount though
Would it actually harm anything to just cut off the top mounts to make space for the spring cups?🤔
Great review! Did you change the shocks or are they the stock ones without the preload? Thanks for the info!
Box stock
I know this is an "oldie", but would there be any more of an advantage to running 80mm shocks? I know bumper clearance will be a bigger disadvantage.
What did you put on for 90mm shocks? I just got this truck and am not sure what will fit for shocks. Can I put Traxxas shocks on it? What did you go with? Thanks
Would love to crawl with you sometime! I come down to sand hollow all the time!
Hey Logan what size smaller shocks did u go with on the Bronco?
New subscriber awesome rig in the middle of building a scx10.3 JL for my channel
Usually the first thing to get replaced is the stock servo they're usually garbage. Also the motor depending on how it performs out of the box.
I’ll usually run the RTR servo til it dies then put something good on it
I’ve been very happy with the stock 10iii servo. It’s much better than what came in my Ascender. More torque, and longer lasting.
Do use the pen spring mod at all. Or have you used it. Thinking my Gatekeeper may need them only in the front. I'll let you know if it helps
I haven’t tried that mod yet. Yeah let me know
Could Capra shocks be a happy medium?
I think I will be going down to 90mm as well.
great vid, im learning alot from your channel. still think this would be good on 2.2s :)
That’s kinda the opposite direction I went, but if you want, go for it!
@@westdesertwheeler2666 I know actually looks far better lower with that size of wheel
Awesome, which 90mm shocks did you use?
youve sold me on a str8 axle build.......i think im going with the boom racing axles
GREAT VIDEO LOGON. PLEASE COULD U TELL US WHAT MAKE SHOCKS YOU USED SIR THANKYOU
Axial 90mm
@@westdesertwheeler2666 THANKYOU SIR 👍
What battery are you running in your bronco?
I got one and a 1800 fusion to put in it. Prob wont run the stock system at all.
I do really like the fusion systems
Traxxas comes out with the 2021 bronco.
Axial hold my beer 🍺 😁😂🤣
Is it still a 2 speed transmission
What 90 mm Shocks do you go with
can you explain to me why not getting the HG-410 PICK UP TRUCK IT HAS 3 SPEEDS ! DOESN'T IT MAKE A DIFFERENT ? PLZ TELL ME
No idea what that is. I don’t need 3 speeds for crawling
@@westdesertwheeler2666 I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T NEEDS 3 SPEED BUT YOU GET MORE POWER WITH 64 TOOTH THAN 54 TOOTH CORRECT FOR ROCK CLIMBING THAT WHAT I CONCIDER ABOUT THAT MORE POWER THE BETTER TURNING THE WHEELS INSTEAD OF PULL THE TRIGGER GOING TO FAST CAUSE TO FLIP OR SOMETHING HAPPEN DURING THE COURT COMPETION
Proline trenchers would be amazing on that truck
Not sure why but I’m not drawn towards the trenchers. I like a meatier tire I guess
@@westdesertwheeler2666 with the lowered stance , some 4.3 swampers or something in that range would look awesome . So many choice for that style of truck .
As you said I cought it. I cried . Catch it
That just looks SO much more 'right' sat just 10mm lower. Clearly drives better, too. Not sure why they made it so high in the first place... 🤷🏼♂️
You could tune the stock stuff if motivated enough
what shocks did you use to replace stock? I've got mine preordered.. just waiting for it. I plan to swap shocks.
Replaced them with axial 90mm shocks
@@westdesertwheeler2666 Great video! Wondering what weight shock oil you're running.
First thing I would do, is Paint it black oh yeah most of my RC’s are black and maybe with the white stripes yeah
Is 90mm shocks,m
Yes. Other than the price, the ride height bothers me.
Everything is expensive man. This is very similar to the gladiator in price
Nice catch lmao
Thanks! Didn’t need to break this one haha
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You didn’t say how much you shortened the shocks
yes he did. 100 mm down to 90 mm.
where you at in this video?
Sand hollow
I won't lie I like it with te 100mm a bit better.
Hey that’s great, that’s what it comes with
@@westdesertwheeler2666 I also got the 100mm desert lizards to toss on the one I'm getting. We will see how they look I suppose though, not sure if the enclosed shocks would look good with the body.
Those shocks and some tires. Keep it stock as possible. Mod the other rigs.
Not a bad plan!
I think i enjoy watching rc crawling better than the real thing. I never understood putting a real vehicle through this kind of torture. It’s easier to get out and walk.
1st upgrade: shocks. 2nd: wheels/tires, 3rd: overdrive ... eventually brushless setup...
I’m torn because I like the look of this wheel so much. It would be hard to beat
@@westdesertwheeler2666 I'm a big fan of aluminum wheels.. but perhaps just a tire change... these might be really good, but I haven't had an RTR that couldn't use a better tire. :)
Tires and wheel weights would bea huge difference. I love the look ofthe factory wheels.
Sounds like what in doing with mine when it ships. Ive got a set of km3 predators mounted on ssd chrome slots with brass internal rings with a little wider slw hub and brass internal rings, a spare set of od gears and a spare revolver/sw4 combo i might swap into it.
@@3gearrc dood... that will be outstanding!!