I am a designer myself and I completely agree with you. It's completely true and if by December i don't get a full time design job i will be leaving this career. I will do any other job. As being a freelancer and having to worry if I would get clients or not isn't living. I rather clean floors and live peacefully. But I really wish I get a full time job before the new year. I still have a few interviews left. I let destiny decide for me.
ahhh this hits so close to home for me. I'm luckier than most already but the instability and volatility of this career gets tougher and tougher every year it seems
The fact that I've been feeling depressed about not being able to get into the industry or use my art for a job in some way, I know that this is the reality of having the job. Sucks that we have to sacrifice everything to have a job we enjoy. I'd have to move to a place I never wanted to live and possibly be looking for a new job constantly.
I took a network engineering major with an accounting and animation minor and just... all kinds of industries are oversaturated and treat people like toilet paper. You are far from alone here, but the grass is just as green on the other lawns now, too.
I feel this. I got laid off 2020 from a corporate art job. After that I been freelancing, but it's hard. I have a toddler and it is hard to freelance now. We plan for another baby later on. I'm not sure if I'll go back to a regular 9-5 or keep freelancing. I thought about going back or find a different job. My partner is the breadwinner.
Majoring in industrial design just freshly graduated last year, it’s very difficult to get a stable job especially in design / art field. I love this field, it’s my passion and dreams but the reality is not common and not so supported here in my country, i try and take any chances from applying for masters scholarships and jobs but none of them accepting me. After almost a year, this november i got a job but not as a designer but a very average office worker in a small town and will start working on December this year.. i will take this chance as a learning opportunity and experience for me to step up my career and education, i wont give up on my dreams!
It's a very hard decision to pivot away from your goal, but even getting any job at the moment is hard, so do give yourself some credit for landing somewhere. Best of luck to you!
Art has always been a difficult industry, as it is viewed as a 'fun' industry, so there is quite often more artists than work to cater for them. But since the 2008 crash, work has become much more rare, and with everything being so insanely expensive, your paycheck runs out way sooner than before. Before, a paycheck woud have you covering the essentials, saving, and maybe a holiday once a year, now, it barely covers the rent. It doesn't matter if your in art or any other field at the moment, either way you would be finding it extremely difficult to making ends meet. At lest you are poor doing something you love, rather than poor and in a job you hate. *I miss animating :(
Nah, if I'm going to be at a job I hate, I better be at least rich 😂. I think this industry is hard because it isn't straightforward. You don't simply apply and get the job. You don't stay at one company for 10 years. There's no metric for what good art is, it's all subjective.
@@jozdrawsinprada I get what your saying but plenty of people are in jobs they hate, and are still poor. I think all uni courses sell you on having a job after the course to get their numbers up , and money in, , but the cliché of a poor artist exists for a reason. I liked your choice of video content that accompanied your message.
I failed to finish art school and was not allowed to go back without paying entirely out of pocket, which wasn't an option. I had to see all my friends graduate and go on to have careers while I worked a peasant job. I'm a failure and it feels terrible. But then I look at all the stress that comes with being an artist... so now I feel like the grass isn't green anywhere, and I'm really... really upset.
@@saphronsquaresThis is clearly a person who is hurting, and english may not be their first language. We’re all struggling to some degree right now (though hopefully you are not!), I think we can give our fellow artists a bit of grace and support each other when we can
@@Aeiouaaaaaaaaa fair enough. you're probably right. having a bad attitude doesn't really contribute to feeling better, but you do have a good point. I sincerely hope hey find some way to apply their skillset, make money and get the validation they need to feel like they belong in the world and are happy. Thank you for setting me straight!
thanks for sharing your experience and welcoming us into your very neat and clean space. It sucks how little our society values art.
I'm glad you think it's neat and clean because it is not 😂.
@@jozdrawsinprada So clean and so minimal, chefs kiss*
I am a designer myself and I completely agree with you. It's completely true and if by December i don't get a full time design job i will be leaving this career. I will do any other job. As being a freelancer and having to worry if I would get clients or not isn't living. I rather clean floors and live peacefully. But I really wish I get a full time job before the new year. I still have a few interviews left. I let destiny decide for me.
Wish you the best on your endeavor!
I appreciate your honesty about your feelings throughout your process of chasing your dream.
W video. Feels very cathartic to hear somebody with a similar experience .Also I like ur desk setup
ahhh this hits so close to home for me. I'm luckier than most already but the instability and volatility of this career gets tougher and tougher every year it seems
It really does 😞.
moral of the story: you need to have guts and love for whatever you do in life
That's okay. Remember the guy who was drawing on the wall in the cave a few thousand years ago. I think he also had a hard time making ends meet.
Yeah I heard he died hungry 💀
The fact that I've been feeling depressed about not being able to get into the industry or use my art for a job in some way, I know that this is the reality of having the job. Sucks that we have to sacrifice everything to have a job we enjoy. I'd have to move to a place I never wanted to live and possibly be looking for a new job constantly.
I took a network engineering major with an accounting and animation minor and just... all kinds of industries are oversaturated and treat people like toilet paper.
You are far from alone here, but the grass is just as green on the other lawns now, too.
That's the sense I'm getting too 😕.
I feel this. I got laid off 2020 from a corporate art job. After that I been freelancing, but it's hard. I have a toddler and it is hard to freelance now. We plan for another baby later on. I'm not sure if I'll go back to a regular 9-5 or keep freelancing. I thought about going back or find a different job. My partner is the breadwinner.
No one also talked about how isolating a working freelance artist job can be sometimes.
Majoring in industrial design just freshly graduated last year, it’s very difficult to get a stable job especially in design / art field. I love this field, it’s my passion and dreams but the reality is not common and not so supported here in my country, i try and take any chances from applying for masters scholarships and jobs but none of them accepting me. After almost a year, this november i got a job but not as a designer but a very average office worker in a small town and will start working on December this year.. i will take this chance as a learning opportunity and experience for me to step up my career and education, i wont give up on my dreams!
It's a very hard decision to pivot away from your goal, but even getting any job at the moment is hard, so do give yourself some credit for landing somewhere. Best of luck to you!
hard agree w all of this!
Art has always been a difficult industry, as it is viewed as a 'fun' industry, so there is quite often more artists than work to cater for them. But since the 2008 crash, work has become much more rare, and with everything being so insanely expensive, your paycheck runs out way sooner than before. Before, a paycheck woud have you covering the essentials, saving, and maybe a holiday once a year, now, it barely covers the rent. It doesn't matter if your in art or any other field at the moment, either way you would be finding it extremely difficult to making ends meet. At lest you are poor doing something you love, rather than poor and in a job you hate. *I miss animating :(
Nah, if I'm going to be at a job I hate, I better be at least rich 😂. I think this industry is hard because it isn't straightforward. You don't simply apply and get the job. You don't stay at one company for 10 years. There's no metric for what good art is, it's all subjective.
@@jozdrawsinprada I get what your saying but plenty of people are in jobs they hate, and are still poor. I think all uni courses sell you on having a job after the course to get their numbers up , and money in, , but the cliché of a poor artist exists for a reason. I liked your choice of video content that accompanied your message.
Necessary
It's called the american dream because you have to be asleap to believe it. Wellcome to capitalism.
sorry but the thumbnail alone just made me say "well duh..." out loud.
I'm glad we agree then 😅.
😃🤔😊
I failed to finish art school and was not allowed to go back without paying entirely out of pocket, which wasn't an option. I had to see all my friends graduate and go on to have careers while I worked a peasant job. I'm a failure and it feels terrible. But then I look at all the stress that comes with being an artist... so now I feel like the grass isn't green anywhere, and I'm really... really upset.
"peasant job"
yeah you sound like a cool, well adjusted person. hope you find a better attitude tilling the fields!
@@saphronsquaresThis is clearly a person who is hurting, and english may not be their first language. We’re all struggling to some degree right now (though hopefully you are not!), I think we can give our fellow artists a bit of grace and support each other when we can
@@Aeiouaaaaaaaaa fair enough. you're probably right. having a bad attitude doesn't really contribute to feeling better, but you do have a good point. I sincerely hope hey find some way to apply their skillset, make money and get the validation they need to feel like they belong in the world and are happy. Thank you for setting me straight!