Did you notice how lane one and two were virtually empty for quite some distance after it had overtaken and the camera car was only doing 64mph with the road clear in front.
Would be very interesting to see how his company ( assuming he isn't self-employed) would react to him driving like that. Worked for a company about 13 years ago, where the owners son was killed on a country road by a van driver that did a stupid overtake. He checked licences twice a year, so any bumps or points, you HAD to tell him. I know he sacked a salesman for a speeding ticket. Think it was 40+ in a 30mph area. The boss promoted that drivers do advanced driver courses, I didn't as I could not drive at the time due to a heart problem.
@@marklittler784 do you mean 3:20? If so, take another look... The GPS states 66mph, which will be an indicated speed on the cars speedo of over 70mph as they over-read. Lanes 1 & 2 are not virtually empty, there are 2x HGV's and a car. When the cammer pulls over after the overtake, there's a sensible 2 second gap between them and the car ahead (you can time it yourself as the grey car moves out of the shadow under the gantry). Dashcams often make things seem further away than they really are, due to the wide angle lens. The cammer was driving in an exemplary manner. They just failed to anticipate the utterly stupid and dangerous undertake by MF71 XBP - Tatton Drives and Patios Ltd.
@@shm5547 There was far less room being left by most of the surrounding vehicles than the Cammer even though they're in the wrong when you have a large gap in front others get the impression your not making progress.
@@se-kmg355 the one with the BMW going for the overtake as the tractor is turning right into his field with a MASSIVE piece of hay bail machinery on it.
@@ashley_neal ohhhh yes, I remembered instantly when I seen you stood on the corner of the wall. That could've been horrific. It's scary how fast you can become more or less a passenger when something goes wrong in a split second.
Made me and my wife laugh when we left a petrol station, in Southampton. The woman in front had left her filler cap keys on her roof, bunched with some others, maybe house keys. Before we could tell her, she had driven away. So, we followed her and flashed her, and I put my hand out of the window and gestured that she had left items on the roof. Her response was to put two fingers up at us. So, we left it at that. I think that when she got home, and found no keys, she may have understood the jester that she had left items on the roof. Some people are so stupid and away with themselves that others are mere irrelevances.
I really think Ashley needs to do a video about people in modern cars not turning on their headlights at night as its becoming a very common issue on the roads. Modern cars all have DRLs and interior clusters lit up at all times so idiots drive around at night with just DRLs on and no back lights at all its crazy.
@@robinhosleftfoot 95% of them are completely oblivious to it, I even try turning my lights off and on again beeping and nothing they are just next level stupid.
There's also the dumb drivers who never check their lights from head lights out to poorly eimed headlights and now its darker earlier you should be checking them at least once a week
Re Police hands being tied, it’s more complicated than that. Most forces have 3 levels of Police officer driver. (Lets call the 3, 2, & 1, with 1 being the best.) Level 3 must remain within the highway code & can only use lights stopped at incidents or to pull someone over. If someone drives off they must disengage. Level 2 can use blues & twos to drive outside the highway code as & when required, & if additionally trained may pursue. If a level 1 joins the pursuit level 2 must draw back and let level 1 lead. Level 3 are trained to a very high standard, very hard to pass the course, and will then be eligible for T-PAC & potentially tactical contact with bikes (very specialised training). If you ever see a marked car do nothing, it’s probably a level 3 driver.
I always think it's a great idea to have your company name i.e. Tatton Drives & Patios painted over your truck while driving like a Juan kerr. I genuinely hope that clip made it to the police, too many focus on getting it on social media rather than giving it a chance to cause some punishment for them no matter how small.
I can honestly say that Ashley’s responses to viewer’s clips made me a better driver. Ashley’s way of words when addressing the temper tantrums and short fused drivers made me realize that 1. keeping your cool is always best and 2. when coming across such drivers don’t bother with them. Don’t punish them or retaliate. Just let them have their ‘win’ and stay safe yourself. It’s not worth being ‘right’ and maimed.
@@JoshAston23Long straight with good visibility and zero junctions. No issue with doing a multiple car overtake as long as there’s room to pull back in if need be. You just have to be aware of other drivers paying no attention and pulling out to overtake as demonstrated in the clip.
Clip 7 with the white pickup. Swerving between lanes with no signals whatsoever and tailgating...on a busy multi lane motorway. Not to mention undertaking on the hard shoulder. Police would have a field day with that!
The Audi driver at the end is worth keeping away from because no mot and not taxed so I'm guessing that any accident the drivers involved in they won't hang around to give details.
My biggest gripe with Clip 16 is the BMW did the classic thing of indicating whilst moving out instead of indicating to move out. I think the cammer was travelling a bit too fast given the conditions, but it's very clear the BMW made no observations before attempting to overtake, I'm personally not sure if a flash of the lights would have helped.
Hi Ash, Clip 12 is one of mine, although I was in the passenger seat at the time. I remember getting a feeling from the speed of the lorry that something wasn't quite right and was thinking about whether an overtake is safe. My mum (who was driving) I think possibly was following the car in front a bit combined with wanting to pass the slow vehicle to get home. I was still a learner at the time but it's one that's stuck with me and (hopefully) helps me put a bit more thought and observation in before I commit to going past. Cheers 👍
I'm not sure how much the roundabout is linked to what happened here; there's normally very little issues overtaking near this roundabout in this direction and there's 2 clearly marked lanes to go straight on, and the road to the right is an Army Barracks so gets very little traffic that doesn't know the layout. Plus, the overtake was a little clear. I think the issue was actually a distracted driver who saw the bus lane markings late and tried to get out of it quickly. If they were paying attention; they would have seen the signs saying Bus Lane not in use, use both lanes
I hope that several of the clips had been submitted to the police for action. Then only sent to Ashley after the police advise they no longer need it. The clips I would have submitted are the undertaking/tailgating Tatton, driving through the red light, moped on the pavement, the 4x4 on the pavement with the pedestrian and the Audi chasing the Tesla. Let the police educate the driver and when they have finished let Ashley educate everyone. I was fortunate to have been trained within 15 months of passing my L test to drive at very high speed (legally) in all conditions and predict the probable behaviour of other drivers, skills which I have honed over my driving career. Whilst I cannot help anyone with the first skill, the second is available to anyone. The IAM Roadsmart can help you become a better and safer driver, without breaking the bank as well as being beneficial when insurance renewal date comes around.
The Moran HGV, is because Moran are the shipping company for Arla, so they are often delivering large quantities of Milk (liquid in containers), so if something causes the liquid to start swaying it can be a problem of trying to counter is reinforcing the problem, as you say it seems like the driver is aware and it trying to control it and get somewhere safe to stop it.
Liquid in (rigid) containers only causes problems if the container is part-full, though. A full liquid container is not a problem because there is no room for the liquid to slosh around. I would have thought that it would be unlikely that you'd have milk in a large, part-filled container, inside a refrigerated box trailer. If it's carrying milk, then it would likely be in bottles (which would all be full), or perhaps IBCs (at least mostly full). My guess for that truck is either hanging meat (e.g. beef), or something on wheels (e.g. cages of bottles of milk) that's not been secured.
@@misterflibble9799 so I agree with most of what you're saying but 2 things I think matter with this that you seem to have acknowledged is a problem but then not realised it applies to a lorry full of plastic milk bottles, they have quite a bit of air at the top of them, the second point they are most definitely not ridged containers beside the scientific base definition of ridged of they can hold there shape on there own, they can't when any sort of pressure is applied to them.
Ashley, you are a shining light in a world of darkness. I took the IAM test after 30 years of driving and it opened my eyes to improvement. Your videos are a very helpful learning aid and I find I see a lot of the hazards before they occur. Than you for what you do.
Clip 7, can never understand the mentality of idiots doing such things in liveried vehicles. (Unless self employed.) High time insurance companies had a show & tell reporting system, such that drivers like this can be charged a premium suitable for their driving style, and not their luck in avoiding police
0:36 I can imagine that he figures because he is on a national speed limit road he should be driving around the actual top speed allowed. Especially if someone was behind him.
@@TheDantheman12121 Yeah even 20mph on some bends and some are only a few hundred yards long. I think originally national speed limit roads were the responsibility of central government ?
I must admit the litter one gave me a wry smile. The situation is pretty bad in Liverpool, and doesn't seem to improve much. I remember reading Bill Bryson's Notes from a Small Island when it came out in the mid 90's. He describes how after a few hours walking in the city, he thought he must have arrived right after a ticker-tape parade 🙂 Sadly, if he came back he'd find little has changed. I mean, how tricky is it to leave the stuff in the car till you get home, and then bin it...
Oh I do like Bill Bryson's writings! Especially as I'm a dual Brit Canadian and have also spent a lot of the time in Bill's homeland of the USA. Anyhow maybe see you on the road to Little Dribbling!
Driving safely is about so much more than working the controls of the vehicle. It's about situational awareness, judgement, patience, commonsense and a host of other things. Sadly for many drivers they stop learning once they figure out how to work the pedals and the steering wheel.
Here in London I feel there's a lack of patience and common sense. People with bad lane discipline wanting to jump ahead of a few cars thinking they saved significant time 🤦. I'm happy I've learnt to be patient
Its a shame that learner drivers aren't taught how to handle a car, a lot of this is down to the way that learner drivers gain their experience before passing a test, which is a result of a combination of factors: 1) No time is given to getting a feel for the car in a safe environment with skid control and the like. I had the advantage of playing around on a grassy field with an old van and my daughters had occasions at various car club (I'm a member) venues to experiment. There are various skid pans that are available but very rarely used as part of driving tuition. Does Ashley encourage his student to experience that? 2) Modern cars are very adept and their limits of adhesion are too high for most learners and when it is lost it is beyond their ability to even attempt recovery so disaster ensues. 3) The majority of driving school learning is carried out at very moderate speeds in and around urban areas where skidding rarely occurs, which results from a desire to maximise the students ability to pass the test, not to learn how to drive. 4) Car insurance for learners is too high to allow any experience to be had in the majority of cases. Families are lucky if they have a small car that can be insured for a learner but most don't. 5) My right of passage to getting a car license was to get a scooter with a provisional license at 16 that taught me a huge amount about road conditions because failure to learn that would see you dumped on the floor! Too many learners go straight into cars which isolate them from the conditions. Having a probationary period is not about education but punishment. Passing your driving test should then follow on with more (mandatory?) focused development.
Clip 6 in the fog. As well as the dodgy overtake, the overtaking car seemed to be travelling way too fast to be able to stop within the distance it could see to be clear in the fog.
I remember one ridiculous overtake in the fog after a long straight and just before a sharp left. I ended up following him as he realised that I was going as fast as it was safe to go, and once his pathfinder was behind him suddenly he was the one that had to do all the work.
6:32 The entitlement of drivers knows no bounds. Not happy that pedestrians in towns and cities are hemmed into the most meagre and narrow of pavements, now they're using their 4x4s to mount pavements and kill others just to save a few precious seconds
@@StefanVeenstra if you're behind the idiot you can stay well away from them and if it does go wrong for them you're not involved. Worst case is the road is blocked and you can turn around and drive away safely 👍
@@richardgiles2484 in theory you're right, in practice there's always the possibility that they cause the crash while they pass you (or cut you up and crash right in front of you before you can build up that safe distance)'
@@ArminGrewe understand what you are saying. However it's always severed me well and you do get to see the idiot pay the price sometimes 🤣 anyway stay safe my friend 👍
@@StefanVeenstra Nah, the carnage behind you could _be_ you. This is doubly so if it's you they're being an idiot directly behind. Let them pass and hopefully you'll never ever see them again.
Clip 16: Another poor weather poor overtake! As per Ashley's comments, I would not have even considered an overtake in that kind of weather. Besides, the cars in front seemed to be driving at a reasonable speed for the conditions, whereas the overtakers speed seemed excessive once it got passed. Why not just hold back, chill out and take it easy? Also, there is always a risk of this sort of thing happening if you insist on overtaking more than one car, especially when vehicles are fairly close together. I would also be interested to know what sort of lighting (if any) did the overtaking car have and what colour was it?
2:25 Another thing you should point out is the fact, that on a camera fog is NEVER as dense as it is in reality! So this was basically a blind overtake.
I've seen Ranger's (usually the lifted ones) driving around waaaaay more dangerously than that through town centres! No dashcam in the work van unfortunately.
At around 0:40, I have to say, I truly hate those narrow country lanes and find it quite nerve wracking not knowing what might be coming the other way. Doesn't help if you have an impatient tailgater behind and with nowhere reasonably wide enough to pull over and let the tailgater past, though i will do so if the opportunity arrises. Either way, folks drive way too fast on those narrow lanes. Doesn't help that my sat nav will send me down a narrow lane just because it thinks it's the faster route...and all just because it's a 60 mph NSL road! Edit: In this example, this "narrow" country lane was at least "wide enough" for white lines down the middle in places, but still "narrow".
Ah yes I feel your pain. This is exactly what my SatNav loves doing. Many a time I’ve found myself on a desperately narrow country lane, scratching my head while getting a close up view of a farm. Of course everyone else in the car is wondering why I’ve taken them on the scenic tour…
@@David-sw2fn I can totally relate. And I truly wish sat nav's had a setting for "Avoid Narrow Country Roads" in the same way that they have "Avoid Motorways" and "Avoid Toll Roads" etc. The issue is that sat navs are programmed to recognise these roads.
@@ibs5080 Maybe a sat nav for HGV would help? Another problem is that what were nice quiet, peaceful hamlets on country lanes get turned into rat runs. Outside rush hours they are my preferred roads for cycling.
@@grahambonner508 I did think about HGV sat nav actually but my thought is that this could then deny me many routes that would be perfectly decent for cars and send me on some long HGV diversions. Another solution is to do a dry run of a sat nav route before actually driving it and putting in an intermediate Via Point to get the route you actually want, thus avoiding the narrow country lane.
i set my sat nav to avoid motorways, much more enjoyable taking the country route and so many places you can stop for rest. could take a simple 3 hour trip along motorway more stress and to get to first bathroom after motorway you really got to put foot down after average cameras even if only get caught in 20 min slow traffic. i stick to country roads you can always find a place to stop and i like to explore, simple 3 hour trip M6 around Birmingham, M54, A5 i actually head the wrong way i head south first then head towards the A44 A470 Towards Crossgates after that every trip from there i take a different route it means driving never gets boring you never get tired you to busy to get tired, so 3 hour trip fast roads anything from 5 hours half to longest drive 12 hours the 12 hours i decided to drive the coast west wales until i was in line with crossgates then head east, every trip add few way points through cut overs over few mountain roads what less used it makes a stress free drive and enjoyable but average is about 7 hours winter and about 8-9 hours in summer. just take lots mini stops, 5-10 mins and back on the road stop to long back pain sets in the rest trip horrid so try to keep moving with lts short stops so quick bathroom stop a quick smoke and back on the road. even my trip to scotland to the very north 1500 miles in total and mostly A roads all the way, can do 180 miles in about 8 hours in wales so its going to be a week plus long road trip going and exploring. ive always thought the trip away is a part of the holiday so i start my holiday for the journey too and now so many places i want to go back to with my better camera, holiday trip to coast as kid i always looked forward to the long drive still got that now @@ibs5080
So many drivers don’t seem to realise that they’re not rally drivers, yet seem dead set on turning their drives from A to B into a race, and that just gives them a competitive mentality towards their journey, which just isn’t necessary and will only potentially cause an accident.
I’ve been watching your videos for a few months, as I’m currently learning to drive in St Helens. Instructor took me to the Moss Bank roundabout you showed in one of your videos; what a strange roundabout!
06:46 A driver giving off a clear vibe that they’ve lost all situational awareness. Well done for hanging back. I don’t think the car intended to go through the red light. I can understand this to an extent. You don’t know where you’re going and suddenly at the junction there’s a whole bunch of white lines pointing to multiple lanes. No doubt the driver was distracted by something (maybe a SatNav). As I always says, drive safely, communicate what you’re doing, then worry about where you are.
They are looking for a chase from the police, they have 0 respect for all other road users, pedestrians and themselves. If the police give chase, its much more dangerous for everyone, so they ignore them. which leads to the criticism that they do nothing. Best way to prevent this is to find where they store the bikes and take them that way. If you're ever in Liverpool and you see these people, just slow down and let them do what they want - much safer that way, at the end of the day its someone's son.
I don’t know for sure but often they are unregistered scrambler type bikes with no number plate. Chasing them to get details can be incredibly dangerous for the bike rider and other road users.
Numerous reasons; 1) not sure about Merseyside however most forces won't pursue bikes as the risks outweigh the benefits 2) this police driver may well not be pursuit trained in any case. 3) whilst there might be little sympathy for the rider, is it worth pursuing the bike and risking them hurting or killing someone else just in the off chance they get them stopped and the courts give them a paltry fine for riding without a licence or insurance? 4) should they pursue them and something happened to the rider all the blame and responsibility would be on the police. Would they want to risk their job for that? I wouldn't
there is a current case going through the courts where a police driver may be charged with manslaughter for a biker that was killed in a chase. Also authority for chase has to be given by control not the officer in the car. That bike was goading the officer, to not react was the best thing.
3:10 Of course the inpatient driver at fault, but I think the viewer could have communicated his intentions by indicating early (I don't think I hear an indicator). If I have a car like this on my bumper I would start indicating left when i am still next to the lorry and move over when its safe.
In reference to the last clip.. I own a car that I’ve rebuilt from the ground up, it did 0-60 in 5.5 second out the factory in 1993 and has since been forged, runs water-meth, I’ve also dabbled in NOS a few times over the years and it has over double it’s factory BHP to the wheels and is now a rarely driven summer car and a regularly driven track day car, it’s 0-60 is truly dependant on traction but I’ve been down Santa Pod against a Tesla and it makes Elon Musk look like he’s just invented the Vauxhall Nova.. I also own a 2009 transit and tow a trailer for my business, 0-60 (where possible) can quite literally take me 30+ seconds when I’m running a 6 ton train weight and it’s truly humbling! I have to think a minute in advance when speeding up or slowing down, I have to think for everyone else when making judgements and turning corners is (sometimes) almost a precision art form. If only everyone had NO CHOICE but to think about other people when driving, no matter how fast you can go or how fast (or slow) your car can accelerate.. No one is getting anywhere faster than anyone else!! No one is saving time (apart from people in filter lanes) and your only true race is to the fuel station!
@ 0:30 a lot of newly qualified drivers like speeding and forgeting all trainining they have received. As new a driver ( only 7 months as in Oct. 2022) I do find myself on those situations (want to speed) but then when I remember the voice of my instructor "WATCH YOUR SPEED HASS" then I quickly go back to my sense.
I think the bigger problem is the total lack of any education regarding car control (correcting slides etc) and reading the road surface to asses it's traction.
MF71 XBP was definitely tailgating especially at 64mph remember some vehicles are hired or borrowed or being sold on so the one driving now might not be the one driving then.
Clip 15: The VW just about made every mistake humanely possible, including not only being all over the place with respect to the marked lanes but also running the red light!
@@ilikechickensausages2075 Well spotted! I've gone back and corrected it now. Apologies for my poor observation...and no I wasn't the driver of the VW, though this may still indeed count as a Viewer Fail!
This man sounds very much like Bennett Foddy in “Getting Over It”. There’s just something about the calm voice that always seems to make situations calmer, and more hilarious.
I think an indicator should of been used in clip 16 rather than a flash of the lights. The driving in that clip was too impatient to consider the thought for the other road users and conditions. There was no slight movement to the centre line for a better view, and it was just a go for it moment. An experienced driver would not let Limp Bizkit affect their driving attitude 😂😂.
00:56 - Can't the police give the motorcyclist a fine and points on the driving licence for dangerous or reckless driving or driving without due care and attention?
Got the complete package with the Audi driver at the end. Old Audi ✓ high mileage ✓ diesel ✓ driving like a complete turnip ✓ cheap ebay LED side lights flickering probably with a CANBUS error on the dash ✓ perfect.
@@archechme well you can’t really “guarantee” it lol some of the aftermarket lights are pretty good. A lot of these guys do spend a lot of money on their older cars. Can’t be sure about this moron though eh.
I drove a Tesla for 7 years and encountered the lights and away situation a lot. The problem is the instant torque meaning you can easily seem like you are “racing” in the first few feet. This triggers certain drivers it seems, I ended up starting off as slowly as I could, preferably after the other car had already done so, but it actually took a bit of practice.
When I was learning to drive my instructor would tell me give way to the right including when at the front of traffic lights. Whenever I'm at the front of the lights and in the left lane I generally do let the car in the right lane get in front of me first. Sometimes their speed kind of gestures to me to go in front of them which I might do if safe to do so. Saying though about electric cars I had a Nissan leaf seem to speed off at the lights like he was trying to race in front of me. As you said though it must of been the instant torque from a standstill as he then proceeded to do 20mph in a 30 zone
@@Slicks21 I agree. I get overtaken all the time at a particular junction on my commute just the way you describe. Usually by people in Audis or BMWs knowing they can get away faster than my Corsa. Doesn't work against a Tesla though.
@@zaink7037 The problem in the clip you're referencing is the fact the right lane is a right turn only lane. The Audi had moved to that lane with no intention of turning, and you'd have to almost wait for them to clear the intersection before pulling away because there wasn't a lane for them after the lights. In some cases it's best to outrun an issue just as much as it's sometimes best to wait out a situation. It all depends on many factors, unfortunately the only common denominator is that a-holes will always be around.
@@----.__ ah if that's the case I'd see the audi in the wrong then. These people are really sad to think queue jumping in this means is going to save them significant time. Have reported a few drivers like this with a few of them getting action taken on them
@@zaink7037 All good mate, I had to watch it a few times to see the arrows. Nonetheless, your logic is sound, as would be expected from someone with such a magnificent moustache :) Peace mate.
7:21 extremely poor - obviously breaking the speed limit and involving serious tailgating beforehand (remember, AT LEAST a four-second gap is needed in wet conditions).
Oof, was that a bomb disposal unit (white lorry, yellow strip, blue border)? You don't want to mess with them! As far as the the cyclist waving the car to come past? I never take instructions from anyone else, unless they're in uniform and authorised to give instructions. Every road user should make up their own mind before executing any kind of manoeuvre. Tractors - have blind spots too, ever since the advent of ROPS regulations way back about 1972, and made worse with the introduction of fully enclosed operator protection. Tractors have 'A' 'B' and 'C' posts which, being part of the OPS are wide and thick, and can obscure anything from a bike to an articulated lorry. Tractor drivers need to be extremely vigilant, but also, other drivers need to be aware that they may not be visible to the tractor driver, especially if the tractor is joining the road obliquely, as in this case. Some might say that the tractor should have taken a straight approach, ninety degrees to the road, but the problem then is the loader which extends several feet in front of the tractor. This would mean that the loader would have been halfway out into the road before the driver could see the traffic. Keep well clear of any farm machinery/vehicles, and remember, the driver may not be able to see you. Same rule as with HGVs - If you can't see the driver, then that driver cannot see you! Newby driver - I saw exactly the same thing about twenty years ago, only that I was about 150 yards further back from the action. I was expecting a collision and took evasive action, but as the youth in his Opel Manta went spinning across the road, and back to his own side of the road, his wheels dug into the grass verge. The car rose up almost to 90° from horizontal, a fell back onto its wheels, and facing the wrong way. Without so much as getting out of his car, he started his engine and drove off in the direction of Pocklington. Ah, such is the exuberance of youth!
6:55 One of my personal "rules" is that I simply NEVER drive next to another car on a roundabout or multi-lane junction. I'll stay behind any cars in other lanes and if somebody else enters the junction/roundabout and pulls alongside me I'll ease off slightly and let them get ahead. There's simply too many muppets on the road to risk a collision because somebody hasn't checked their blindspot or they've suddenly decided they're in the wrong lane.
Kind of wishing I have a dashcam now. Was recently in a situation on my fourth or fifth drive; haven't driven with a driving instructor (just with my dad), and have less than 10 hours driving experience. Was going around a blind bend at around 50mph, and let off the gas so it dropped a little below that still. Then comes into view a biker in the oncoming, closely followed by another biker in my lane, overtaking. I believe both were accelerating at the same time, for some reason? I almost completely let go of the gas and swerved but didn't slam on the brake, since I was/am inexperienced and I panicked a bit. Luckily there was no contact of any kind, but it was kind of a scary experience. Now I'm kind of wondering if I was slightly in the wrong for driving too fast, though I'm pretty sure I was going a little below 40 after coming out of the bend. Either way, I can guarantee the biker's life flashed before his eyes the moment he saw the 'Learner' stickers haha
Plenty of "squeaky bum" moments - most of which could easily have been avoided 🤔. The opening clip was too close for comfort and very much reminded me of another 📽 featured on your channel last year. Poor Roadcraft is the disease; Ash might be the cure. Stay safe out there.
7:20 the cammer was going way too fast for the conditions. Crossed a junction, with a vehicle that _could_ have pulled out, at 60mph in heavy rain! Then went for a flying overtake at over 70mph. The BMW driver was very wrong to pull out without looking, but the cammers reactions were very poor. Yes, they managed to brake, however, the use of the horn was FAR too late, clearly the cammer was not anticipating this and did not have their hand on the horn ready during this manoeuvre.
8:25 Absolutely not defending the moped rider's actions, but I think I know what's going on. It's one of the inner London boroughs idiotic LTNs where they arbitrarily close off a residential road in the middle "to solve traffic" (hint: it doesn't, because it's an ideological crusade rather than a practical solution). Of course, rather than physically solve the problem by installing bollards, they've put up a couple of signs and a camera, because it's more profitable for the council to fine people unfamiliar with the area who makee a mistake than to actually stop them. The moped rider however is fully aware of this little scam and uses the footpath to bypass the camera (pedestrian safety be damned in the process). While the book should be thrown at him, the blame for unintended consequences ultimately lies with the morons that run these councils. I've mentioned before in some previous clips that terrible and unintuitive road design is a significant contributory factor in quite a few collisions, and again we see here how ill thought-out road schemes wind up making them more dangerous for everyone.
Last clip re racing off the line. I get people challenging me when I am in the Golf R-Line, you can see it and I mouth …it’s only a 1.4!!! They see the R and think I have the 300Ps…I wave as they waste their petrol..
Did the clapped A3 think it had a chance against a Tesla? I'm no Tesla fanboy, but everyone knows those things are quick... till they run out of battery anyway.
Clip 12: An RLC Bomb disposal vehicle. This would have been driven by an LGV driver who had received additional blue light training before being allowed out on the roads. Not a good advertisement for someone who is supposed to drive to a much higher standard than ordinary road users.
The reason I’d be hanging back from that EOD truck is because I’ve seen their efforts at engineering before and let me say there’s a reason why you’re chosen to go play with bombs, and it’s not because you’re valuable.
07:21 Rate the overtake = Terrible, unnecessary , dangerous. Also there is water pooling on right verge entering road which presents potential aquaplaning hazard.
Clip 12, 5:31, you’re passing big ‘move right’ arrows. Definitely shouldn’t be overtaking. The lorry was clearly trying to move right after the first car, but was holding back as it could see the camera car starting an overtake. Not sure why it swerved - perhaps a telling off? But being RLC, I’d like to think they’d be better than that ...
That speeding round country lanes is the exact type of thing i did when i first passed my test getting cocky in the rain. I went up a ramp of the side and luckily a van passed and pulled me down. That was the last time i done something stupid.
Overtaking other vehicles at the start of a section of bus lane is always risky. You might be aware of the bus lane's operational hours but there's a good chance the other driver won't be and will instinctively move into the right hand lane.
Why are the police not able to charge the motor bike riders with reckless riding or failing to maintain proper control. Over here in Victoria Australia if a cop saw anyone do that they would be giving chase immediately.
Oh wow I’m clip 5 and didn’t realise I was close to the cyclist. I normally hang back until clear, and give loads of room as I’m a cyclist too. Does look close on the video though.
It's impossible for them to chase a motorbike when they're in a car, and they're not going to be able to get a helicopter/motorbike units out for a simple careless driving offence
@@timothymeyer3210 No one is asking them to chase. We can see the number plate. Yet the same people get away with it time and time again. It's lazy excuses as always
As a former test engineer that road tested tractors: Don't tailgate tractors, especially with trailers. I've had someone crash into me and both passengers ended up in the air ambulance. Whatever room you think is enough, double it. For your own safety!
5:46 (clip 13) Appears to me that the driver has somehow rear-loaded their trailer. Good video to demonstrate why you should load from the front first whenever possible.
Yeah I was curious about how they'd accomplish that in a box trailer - I could understand in a curtainsider if their first drop was on the front (in which case it shouldn't have left the yard or done it second drop instead), but... The only thing I can think of is that he was picking up, say, 6 heavy pallets and stuck a bar across a few metres in and loaded to the rear doors to make unloading easier...
@@JulianShagworthy or he was running cages, had them strapped in with a single strap that gave out during the drive. Forcing the cages to back of trailer.
For the overtake clip at @7:20, then, personally speaking, I am always very, very cautious if considering overtaking more than one vehicle, and only do so after allowing ample time for the second in the queue to overtake a slower moving vehicle first. As it is, the cammer appears to have started the overtaking manoeuvre almost as soon as the hatched lane. The conditions, with wet spray and poor visibility would have made me hesitate over that move, and I'd certainly have given some time for the second in line vehicle to overtake. I'd feel very uncomfortable doing a double in wet conditions. I have processed the longitude/latitude figures for the clip, and for the period from the start until 17:16:29 on the dashcam, the cammer was averaging 50.4 mph, which is not ridiculously slow given the conditions. From that point, the cammer starts accelerating reaching 65 mph at the 17:16:32 interval when the white car signals to overtake. However, rather than backing off then, the acceleration continues reaching 71 mph at 17:16:34 a couple of seconds later. Then the speed drops rapidly, falling to 42 mph at 17:16:37 due to some fairly heavy braking. Whilst there is some lag in the updating of co-ordinates of course, it seems to me the cammer ought to have backed off the instant the white car started to signal, whilst from the stats is seems it took a couple of seconds for that to have happened. The white car is, of course, culpable for not looking first, but there is a matter of self preservation here. There is, of course, the issue of speeding when overtaking. That is, whatever the law might say about the matter, is it safer to briefly go over the speed limit to minimise the time spent on the "wrong" side of the road or should you pass at the legal speed limit? In this case, the cammer would have had no more than 10 mph in hand for the overtake at the legal speed limit. With a 2 second interval between vehicles (arguably more in the rain), and the speed they were travelling, he/she would have had to gain 74 metres to pull in safely (2 x 4 metre car lengths + 3 x 22 metre gaps). That speed differential of just 10 mph (4.5 metres per second) would have meant the passing manoeuvre would have taken over 16 seconds unless he/she closed the gap before moving out. In 16 seconds, that lead car would have covered 352 metres. If a car had been coming the other way at the legal speed limit of 60 mph (26.8 metres per second), then that would have travelled 429 metres in the opposite direction What this means, is that the cammer would have to be able to see that there was a clear gap of almost 800 metres free of on-coming traffic. That's half a mile, and I wonder if anybody can see that far in such wet conditions. Of course passing at 70 mph, the time is halved, and the required gap is halved, as you have twice the differential speed. I should add that the section of the A1303 shown (near Newmarket) is dead straight for another 1.9 km from where the overtake started with no side roads so in clear visibility it might not be a huge problem.
Impressive analysis! I was taught by IAM Roadcraft to only overtake at the legal limit, but I agree it sometimes seems safer to go faster to reduce the TED (time exposed to danger). My instructor's comment was that if I needed to plan to exceed the speed limit then my overtake wouldn't be safe, so I shouldn't do it. I took the point, but I'd still prioritise safety in a situation like that.
@@R04drunner1 Thanks. I don't believe many people realise just how far you travel when overtaking, especially a double overtake like this (which I would have been very reluctant to do in those conditions). Generally, when I overtake I want to get it done as quickly as possible, and looking at the speedometer is not a priority, which is another way of saying that I undoubtedly do go over the speed limits at times (note, I'm not talking of dual carriageways where the issue doesn't arise). However, I'd say overtaking is, for me, a rarity (unless I count cyclists). It's hazardous and unless there's a significant margin to the speed limit, it's not worth the limited time gained.
Overtaking in the rain is certainly problematic and I dont think your viewer anticipated very well. Use of the horn suggests he wasnt very patient either. Not had anyone obviously trying to race me in my Tesla but I do from time to time find there are occasional drivers who always "have to be in front". There are rather a large number of Audi drivers in this category - I have no idea why.
I must admit, when Tesla's first came out over here, I attempted to keep up with one as we both pulled out of a layby onto a dual carriageway. I was in a reasonably quick car and was a bit curious about their reputation for acceleration. I soon learnt that there wasn't any point trying to keep up with one and never tried again.
@@andrewthomas2406 Nothing worse than a caveman thinking burning highly processed oil is a better way to create motion than harnessing magnetic fields properly. Thankfully, engineers know better.
Tractors are scary when you're on a bicycle. One of those massive tractors with the huge tyres front and back come flying past me at full speed down a country road. The road was only wide enough for him but I couldn't move over because there was a ditch on each side. He could have moved over a bit into the ditch or slowed down but no. Imagine one of those wheels right up at the side of you at 25 mph. It was the closest pass I've ever had ..... bought some new bib shorts that weekend🤣
Clip 11: Yes, the cammer could have "read the script earlier". For one thing, at around 5:05 you can see brake lights on the car that's parked on the left in the side street. Meaning it's occupied and hence could move off. Especially also as the cammer would be in the parked car's blind spot whilst they are coming up to make the turn. Yes, the driver of the parked car should have carried out all round observation, including a shoulder check behind and to their right but it's quite predictable that they might not do so,
Tatton Drives and Patios LTD respond with threats and swearing if you email your concerns to them. Now they're asking how they can make the backlash to this stop. A company to avoid for sure!
People driving like mental with their company logo plastered all over the vehicle always crack me up...
Did you notice how lane one and two were virtually empty for quite some distance after it had overtaken and the camera car was only doing 64mph with the road clear in front.
Would be very interesting to see how his company ( assuming he isn't self-employed) would react to him driving like that. Worked for a company about 13 years ago, where the owners son was killed on a country road by a van driver that did a stupid overtake. He checked licences twice a year, so any bumps or points, you HAD to tell him. I know he sacked a salesman for a speeding ticket. Think it was 40+ in a 30mph area. The boss promoted that drivers do advanced driver courses, I didn't as I could not drive at the time due to a heart problem.
@@marklittler784 do you mean 3:20? If so, take another look...
The GPS states 66mph, which will be an indicated speed on the cars speedo of over 70mph as they over-read. Lanes 1 & 2 are not virtually empty, there are 2x HGV's and a car. When the cammer pulls over after the overtake, there's a sensible 2 second gap between them and the car ahead (you can time it yourself as the grey car moves out of the shadow under the gantry). Dashcams often make things seem further away than they really are, due to the wide angle lens.
The cammer was driving in an exemplary manner. They just failed to anticipate the utterly stupid and dangerous undertake by MF71 XBP - Tatton Drives and Patios Ltd.
It’s hilarious, indeed, but also a good advertisement for the company. Advertising what company I do not want to deal with 😂
@@shm5547 There was far less room being left by most of the surrounding vehicles than the Cammer even though they're in the wrong when you have a large gap in front others get the impression your not making progress.
Thanks Ash, another very informative series of situations.
Holy shit. That tractor couldve ended in a passenger decapitation very easily. Glad nobody was hurt in that. Scary
Not as bad as the tractor video that was a couple of years ago.
@@se-kmg355 which one? I think I remember seeing another but I'm not too sure it'll be the same one
th-cam.com/video/fT8fNE736lE/w-d-xo.html this one!
@@se-kmg355 the one with the BMW going for the overtake as the tractor is turning right into his field with a MASSIVE piece of hay bail machinery on it.
@@ashley_neal ohhhh yes, I remembered instantly when I seen you stood on the corner of the wall. That could've been horrific. It's scary how fast you can become more or less a passenger when something goes wrong in a split second.
Made me and my wife laugh when we left a petrol station, in Southampton. The woman in front had left her filler cap keys on her roof, bunched with some others, maybe house keys. Before we could tell her, she had driven away. So, we followed her and flashed her, and I put my hand out of the window and gestured that she had left items on the roof. Her response was to put two fingers up at us. So, we left it at that. I think that when she got home, and found no keys, she may have understood the jester that she had left items on the roof. Some people are so stupid and away with themselves that others are mere irrelevances.
Do you mean gesture, or are you calling her a clown?
I really think Ashley needs to do a video about people in modern cars not turning on their headlights at night as its becoming a very common issue on the roads. Modern cars all have DRLs and interior clusters lit up at all times so idiots drive around at night with just DRLs on and no back lights at all its crazy.
Try flashing them and they just flash back🤦
@@robinhosleftfoot 95% of them are completely oblivious to it, I even try turning my lights off and on again beeping and nothing they are just next level stupid.
@@gravemind6536 the result of automating everything. Only succeeds in dumbing down drivers
Agreed. I also don't understand why cars don;t have rear DRLs. At least it would help with the numpties who don't turn their lights on.
There's also the dumb drivers who never check their lights from head lights out to poorly eimed headlights and now its darker earlier you should be checking them at least once a week
love the "there's a guy on youtube" commentary.
Clip 8: From the in car conversation, sounds as though the cammer already decided there and then that this was material to send in to you Ash!
Re Police hands being tied, it’s more complicated than that. Most forces have 3 levels of Police officer driver. (Lets call the 3, 2, & 1, with 1 being the best.)
Level 3 must remain within the highway code & can only use lights stopped at incidents or to pull someone over. If someone drives off they must disengage.
Level 2 can use blues & twos to drive outside the highway code as & when required, & if additionally trained may pursue. If a level 1 joins the pursuit level 2 must draw back and let level 1 lead.
Level 3 are trained to a very high standard, very hard to pass the course, and will then be eligible for T-PAC & potentially tactical contact with bikes (very specialised training).
If you ever see a marked car do nothing, it’s probably a level 3 driver.
I always think it's a great idea to have your company name i.e. Tatton Drives & Patios painted over your truck while driving like a Juan kerr.
I genuinely hope that clip made it to the police, too many focus on getting it on social media rather than giving it a chance to cause some punishment for them no matter how small.
I certainly hope people don’t go to his website and leave poor reviews based on his dangerous driving. That would be awful…
@@CycolacFan Yes, I certainly won't be doing or encouraging that......
I hope so that it was reported. I don't understand why people drive like that.
I can honestly say that Ashley’s responses to viewer’s clips made me a better driver.
Ashley’s way of words when addressing the temper tantrums and short fused drivers made me realize that 1. keeping your cool is always best and 2. when coming across such drivers don’t bother with them. Don’t punish them or retaliate. Just let them have their ‘win’ and stay safe yourself. It’s not worth being ‘right’ and maimed.
7:20 I definitely wouldn't flash my lights, that could be interpreted as "go-ahead and do your maneuver"
Not sure I would attempt to overtake 2 vehicles in one go either. Considerable distance to cover there before he tucks back into the left.
@@JoshAston23Long straight with good visibility and zero junctions.
No issue with doing a multiple car overtake as long as there’s room to pull back in if need be. You just have to be aware of other drivers paying no attention and pulling out to overtake as demonstrated in the clip.
Not sure if the cam car indicated. If not, it's doubly bad - one for not signalling, and two for not signalling when a BMW of all things did!
Clip 7 with the white pickup. Swerving between lanes with no signals whatsoever and tailgating...on a busy multi lane motorway. Not to mention undertaking on the hard shoulder. Police would have a field day with that!
The Audi driver at the end is worth keeping away from because no mot and not taxed so I'm guessing that any accident the drivers involved in they won't hang around to give details.
My biggest gripe with Clip 16 is the BMW did the classic thing of indicating whilst moving out instead of indicating to move out. I think the cammer was travelling a bit too fast given the conditions, but it's very clear the BMW made no observations before attempting to overtake, I'm personally not sure if a flash of the lights would have helped.
Yeah of course there's also fast accelerating motorbikes you need to give a warning to that you might not see too.
Hi Ash, Clip 12 is one of mine, although I was in the passenger seat at the time. I remember getting a feeling from the speed of the lorry that something wasn't quite right and was thinking about whether an overtake is safe. My mum (who was driving) I think possibly was following the car in front a bit combined with wanting to pass the slow vehicle to get home. I was still a learner at the time but it's one that's stuck with me and (hopefully) helps me put a bit more thought and observation in before I commit to going past. Cheers 👍
5:26 What your and other uk dashcam video's have taught me is to not overtake directly after a roundabout in the UK.
And avoiding overtaking and undertaking on them.
I'm not sure how much the roundabout is linked to what happened here; there's normally very little issues overtaking near this roundabout in this direction and there's 2 clearly marked lanes to go straight on, and the road to the right is an Army Barracks so gets very little traffic that doesn't know the layout. Plus, the overtake was a little clear. I think the issue was actually a distracted driver who saw the bus lane markings late and tried to get out of it quickly. If they were paying attention; they would have seen the signs saying Bus Lane not in use, use both lanes
I hope that several of the clips had been submitted to the police for action. Then only sent to Ashley after the police advise they no longer need it. The clips I would have submitted are the undertaking/tailgating Tatton, driving through the red light, moped on the pavement, the 4x4 on the pavement with the pedestrian and the Audi chasing the Tesla. Let the police educate the driver and when they have finished let Ashley educate everyone. I was fortunate to have been trained within 15 months of passing my L test to drive at very high speed (legally) in all conditions and predict the probable behaviour of other drivers, skills which I have honed over my driving career. Whilst I cannot help anyone with the first skill, the second is available to anyone. The IAM Roadsmart can help you become a better and safer driver, without breaking the bank as well as being beneficial when insurance renewal date comes around.
The Moran HGV, is because Moran are the shipping company for Arla, so they are often delivering large quantities of Milk (liquid in containers), so if something causes the liquid to start swaying it can be a problem of trying to counter is reinforcing the problem, as you say it seems like the driver is aware and it trying to control it and get somewhere safe to stop it.
Liquid in (rigid) containers only causes problems if the container is part-full, though. A full liquid container is not a problem because there is no room for the liquid to slosh around.
I would have thought that it would be unlikely that you'd have milk in a large, part-filled container, inside a refrigerated box trailer. If it's carrying milk, then it would likely be in bottles (which would all be full), or perhaps IBCs (at least mostly full).
My guess for that truck is either hanging meat (e.g. beef), or something on wheels (e.g. cages of bottles of milk) that's not been secured.
@@misterflibble9799 so I agree with most of what you're saying but 2 things I think matter with this that you seem to have acknowledged is a problem but then not realised it applies to a lorry full of plastic milk bottles, they have quite a bit of air at the top of them, the second point they are most definitely not ridged containers beside the scientific base definition of ridged of they can hold there shape on there own, they can't when any sort of pressure is applied to them.
In that case I hope Arla were happy when their truckload of cheese was delivered 👍
Ashley, you are a shining light in a world of darkness. I took the IAM test after 30 years of driving and it opened my eyes to improvement. Your videos are a very helpful learning aid and I find I see a lot of the hazards before they occur. Than you for what you do.
That RoSPA handbook by Nigel and Margaret Stacey with comic like clips of potential situations I thought was good.
That last clip, you can almost smell the insecurities of the guy in the audi
MF71 XBP - I do hope the driver of that one got a NIP in the post. Edit not taxed either.
I was wondering if the MF on the number plate meant what our American friends would think ...
Clip 7, can never understand the mentality of idiots doing such things in liveried vehicles. (Unless self employed.)
High time insurance companies had a show & tell reporting system, such that drivers like this can be charged a premium suitable for their driving style, and not their luck in avoiding police
0:36 I can imagine that he figures because he is on a national speed limit road he should be driving around the actual top speed allowed. Especially if someone was behind him.
Good they reduced the speed on many a few decades ago.
@@marklittler784 yeah, It always amazes me how they have these national speed limits on roads that seem dangerous to drive at 30 on lol.
@@TheDantheman12121 Yeah even 20mph on some bends and some are only a few hundred yards long. I think originally national speed limit roads were the responsibility of central government ?
"Prevention is always better than Reaction"
Brilliant Ashley, I'll be applying this to my driving from now on 👍
I must admit the litter one gave me a wry smile. The situation is pretty bad in Liverpool, and doesn't seem to improve much. I remember reading Bill Bryson's Notes from a Small Island when it came out in the mid 90's. He describes how after a few hours walking in the city, he thought he must have arrived right after a ticker-tape parade 🙂 Sadly, if he came back he'd find little has changed. I mean, how tricky is it to leave the stuff in the car till you get home, and then bin it...
It's not tricky at all. But when you are dealing with selfish anti-social morons you will never win.
A walk along a road in the countryside is just as bad, sadly.
@@davidrobinson4118 Indeed, sadly.
Oh I do like Bill Bryson's writings! Especially as I'm a dual Brit Canadian and have also spent a lot of the time in Bill's homeland of the USA. Anyhow maybe see you on the road to Little Dribbling!
Send the clip to the LA. The driver (actually, the registered keeper) is responsible even if they won't identify the passenger.
Driving safely is about so much more than working the controls of the vehicle. It's about situational awareness, judgement, patience, commonsense and a host of other things. Sadly for many drivers they stop learning once they figure out how to work the pedals and the steering wheel.
Here in London I feel there's a lack of patience and common sense. People with bad lane discipline wanting to jump ahead of a few cars thinking they saved significant time 🤦. I'm happy I've learnt to be patient
Its a shame that learner drivers aren't taught how to handle a car, a lot of this is down to the way that learner drivers gain their experience before passing a test, which is a result of a combination of factors:
1) No time is given to getting a feel for the car in a safe environment with skid control and the like. I had the advantage of playing around on a grassy field with an old van and my daughters had occasions at various car club (I'm a member) venues to experiment. There are various skid pans that are available but very rarely used as part of driving tuition. Does Ashley encourage his student to experience that?
2) Modern cars are very adept and their limits of adhesion are too high for most learners and when it is lost it is beyond their ability to even attempt recovery so disaster ensues.
3) The majority of driving school learning is carried out at very moderate speeds in and around urban areas where skidding rarely occurs, which results from a desire to maximise the students ability to pass the test, not to learn how to drive.
4) Car insurance for learners is too high to allow any experience to be had in the majority of cases. Families are lucky if they have a small car that can be insured for a learner but most don't.
5) My right of passage to getting a car license was to get a scooter with a provisional license at 16 that taught me a huge amount about road conditions because failure to learn that would see you dumped on the floor! Too many learners go straight into cars which isolate them from the conditions.
Having a probationary period is not about education but punishment. Passing your driving test should then follow on with more (mandatory?) focused development.
I rode a 12 gear racing bicycle at 30-45mph as a kid, I know I put a Speedo on it you learn escape routes that don't involve braking.
Clip 6 in the fog. As well as the dodgy overtake, the overtaking car seemed to be travelling way too fast to be able to stop within the distance it could see to be clear in the fog.
I remember one ridiculous overtake in the fog after a long straight and just before a sharp left. I ended up following him as he realised that I was going as fast as it was safe to go, and once his pathfinder was behind him suddenly he was the one that had to do all the work.
1:15 The police should just knock them off their toys.
Hear hear!
The police seem to have gave up on basic crime in general from what we see on a daily basis!
6:32 The entitlement of drivers knows no bounds. Not happy that pedestrians in towns and cities are hemmed into the most meagre and narrow of pavements, now they're using their 4x4s to mount pavements and kill others just to save a few precious seconds
Well done using my clip Ash. Now I’m famous! Get ready for an onslaught of clips 😂
I miss the Pie Factory.
Always safer to be behind an idiot rather than in front of one 👍
I wonder, I rather have the carnage behind me than in front of me.
If the overtake can be done safely of course.
@@StefanVeenstra if you're behind the idiot you can stay well away from them and if it does go wrong for them you're not involved. Worst case is the road is blocked and you can turn around and drive away safely 👍
@@richardgiles2484 in theory you're right, in practice there's always the possibility that they cause the crash while they pass you (or cut you up and crash right in front of you before you can build up that safe distance)'
@@ArminGrewe understand what you are saying. However it's always severed me well and you do get to see the idiot pay the price sometimes 🤣 anyway stay safe my friend 👍
@@StefanVeenstra Nah, the carnage behind you could _be_ you. This is doubly so if it's you they're being an idiot directly behind. Let them pass and hopefully you'll never ever see them again.
Clip 16: Another poor weather poor overtake! As per Ashley's comments, I would not have even considered an overtake in that kind of weather. Besides, the cars in front seemed to be driving at a reasonable speed for the conditions, whereas the overtakers speed seemed excessive once it got passed. Why not just hold back, chill out and take it easy? Also, there is always a risk of this sort of thing happening if you insist on overtaking more than one car, especially when vehicles are fairly close together. I would also be interested to know what sort of lighting (if any) did the overtaking car have and what colour was it?
Clip 7, pickups are the new Audi drivers, this example and three instances I’ve had this week
Clip 14 proving my point!
"Tatton Drives and Patios LTD" 3:14 Must have been late to do someone's driveway?
2:25 Another thing you should point out is the fact, that on a camera fog is NEVER as dense as it is in reality! So this was basically a blind overtake.
I've seen Ranger's (usually the lifted ones) driving around waaaaay more dangerously than that through town centres! No dashcam in the work van unfortunately.
At around 0:40, I have to say, I truly hate those narrow country lanes and find it quite nerve wracking not knowing what might be coming the other way. Doesn't help if you have an impatient tailgater behind and with nowhere reasonably wide enough to pull over and let the tailgater past, though i will do so if the opportunity arrises. Either way, folks drive way too fast on those narrow lanes. Doesn't help that my sat nav will send me down a narrow lane just because it thinks it's the faster route...and all just because it's a 60 mph NSL road! Edit: In this example, this "narrow" country lane was at least "wide enough" for white lines down the middle in places, but still "narrow".
Ah yes I feel your pain. This is exactly what my SatNav loves doing. Many a time I’ve found myself on a desperately narrow country lane, scratching my head while getting a close up view of a farm. Of course everyone else in the car is wondering why I’ve taken them on the scenic tour…
@@David-sw2fn I can totally relate. And I truly wish sat nav's had a setting for "Avoid Narrow Country Roads" in the same way that they have "Avoid Motorways" and "Avoid Toll Roads" etc. The issue is that sat navs are programmed to recognise these roads.
@@ibs5080 Maybe a sat nav for HGV would help?
Another problem is that what were nice quiet, peaceful hamlets on country lanes get turned into rat runs.
Outside rush hours they are my preferred roads for cycling.
@@grahambonner508 I did think about HGV sat nav actually but my thought is that this could then deny me many routes that would be perfectly decent for cars and send me on some long HGV diversions. Another solution is to do a dry run of a sat nav route before actually driving it and putting in an intermediate Via Point to get the route you actually want, thus avoiding the narrow country lane.
i set my sat nav to avoid motorways, much more enjoyable taking the country route and so many places you can stop for rest. could take a simple 3 hour trip along motorway more stress and to get to first bathroom after motorway you really got to put foot down after average cameras even if only get caught in 20 min slow traffic. i stick to country roads you can always find a place to stop and i like to explore, simple 3 hour trip M6 around Birmingham, M54, A5 i actually head the wrong way i head south first then head towards the A44 A470 Towards Crossgates after that every trip from there i take a different route it means driving never gets boring you never get tired you to busy to get tired, so 3 hour trip fast roads anything from 5 hours half to longest drive 12 hours the 12 hours i decided to drive the coast west wales until i was in line with crossgates then head east, every trip add few way points through cut overs over few mountain roads what less used it makes a stress free drive and enjoyable but average is about 7 hours winter and about 8-9 hours in summer. just take lots mini stops, 5-10 mins and back on the road stop to long back pain sets in the rest trip horrid so try to keep moving with lts short stops so quick bathroom stop a quick smoke and back on the road. even my trip to scotland to the very north 1500 miles in total and mostly A roads all the way, can do 180 miles in about 8 hours in wales so its going to be a week plus long road trip going and exploring. ive always thought the trip away is a part of the holiday so i start my holiday for the journey too and now so many places i want to go back to with my better camera, holiday trip to coast as kid i always looked forward to the long drive still got that now @@ibs5080
So many drivers don’t seem to realise that they’re not rally drivers, yet seem dead set on turning their drives from A to B into a race, and that just gives them a competitive mentality towards their journey, which just isn’t necessary and will only potentially cause an accident.
I’ve been watching your videos for a few months, as I’m currently learning to drive in St Helens. Instructor took me to the Moss Bank roundabout you showed in one of your videos; what a strange roundabout!
06:46 A driver giving off a clear vibe that they’ve lost all situational awareness. Well done for hanging back. I don’t think the car intended to go through the red light. I can understand this to an extent. You don’t know where you’re going and suddenly at the junction there’s a whole bunch of white lines pointing to multiple lanes. No doubt the driver was distracted by something (maybe a SatNav). As I always says, drive safely, communicate what you’re doing, then worry about where you are.
and if you just make a habit of not trying to overtake people in junctions, - a habit the cammer seemed to do well at - there's a lot lower risk.
@@kenbrown2808 Agreed. High risk areas like that are the last places to try and make progress.
Why are police hands tied against the motorbikes?
They are looking for a chase from the police, they have 0 respect for all other road users, pedestrians and themselves.
If the police give chase, its much more dangerous for everyone, so they ignore them. which leads to the criticism that they do nothing. Best way to prevent this is to find where they store the bikes and take them that way.
If you're ever in Liverpool and you see these people, just slow down and let them do what they want - much safer that way, at the end of the day its someone's son.
I don’t know for sure but often they are unregistered scrambler type bikes with no number plate. Chasing them to get details can be incredibly dangerous for the bike rider and other road users.
Numerous reasons;
1) not sure about Merseyside however most forces won't pursue bikes as the risks outweigh the benefits
2) this police driver may well not be pursuit trained in any case.
3) whilst there might be little sympathy for the rider, is it worth pursuing the bike and risking them hurting or killing someone else just in the off chance they get them stopped and the courts give them a paltry fine for riding without a licence or insurance?
4) should they pursue them and something happened to the rider all the blame and responsibility would be on the police. Would they want to risk their job for that? I wouldn't
there is a current case going through the courts where a police driver may be charged with manslaughter for a biker that was killed in a chase. Also authority for chase has to be given by control not the officer in the car. That bike was goading the officer, to not react was the best thing.
@@Daniel-ug3ie Rightful criticism. These motorbikes are a danger to everyone on the roads.
3:10 Of course the inpatient driver at fault, but I think the viewer could have communicated his intentions by indicating early (I don't think I hear an indicator). If I have a car like this on my bumper I would start indicating left when i am still next to the lorry and move over when its safe.
I'm not sure if I should be thanking you Ashley for curating these clips or your wonderful viewers for sending them in? Another great video.
Both :)
In reference to the last clip.. I own a car that I’ve rebuilt from the ground up, it did 0-60 in 5.5 second out the factory in 1993 and has since been forged, runs water-meth, I’ve also dabbled in NOS a few times over the years and it has over double it’s factory BHP to the wheels and is now a rarely driven summer car and a regularly driven track day car, it’s 0-60 is truly dependant on traction but I’ve been down Santa Pod against a Tesla and it makes Elon Musk look like he’s just invented the Vauxhall Nova.. I also own a 2009 transit and tow a trailer for my business, 0-60 (where possible) can quite literally take me 30+ seconds when I’m running a 6 ton train weight and it’s truly humbling! I have to think a minute in advance when speeding up or slowing down, I have to think for everyone else when making judgements and turning corners is (sometimes) almost a precision art form. If only everyone had NO CHOICE but to think about other people when driving, no matter how fast you can go or how fast (or slow) your car can accelerate.. No one is getting anywhere faster than anyone else!! No one is saving time (apart from people in filter lanes) and your only true race is to the fuel station!
@ 0:30 a lot of newly qualified drivers like speeding and forgeting all trainining they have received. As new a driver ( only 7 months as in Oct. 2022) I do find myself on those situations (want to speed) but then when I remember the voice of my instructor "WATCH YOUR SPEED HASS" then I quickly go back to my sense.
I think the bigger problem is the total lack of any education regarding car control (correcting slides etc) and reading the road surface to asses it's traction.
MF71 XBP was definitely tailgating especially at 64mph remember some vehicles are hired or borrowed or being sold on so the one driving now might not be the one driving then.
I always try to drive as if Ashley's watching me. Sod the police. It's Ashley that scares the crapoutame.
8:30 nice! Up on the poavement to avoid getting caught by traffic cameras for entering a road unlawfully.
Clip 15: The VW just about made every mistake humanely possible, including not only being all over the place with respect to the marked lanes but also running the red light!
Clip 15 you mean
@@ilikechickensausages2075 Well spotted! I've gone back and corrected it now. Apologies for my poor observation...and no I wasn't the driver of the VW, though this may still indeed count as a Viewer Fail!
@@ibs5080 😉👍
This man sounds very much like Bennett Foddy in “Getting Over It”. There’s just something about the calm voice that always seems to make situations calmer, and more hilarious.
NEVER trust anyone who waves you on (unless it's the police). The only person responsible for driving your car is you.
that one on the motorway , what a horrible driver
I think an indicator should of been used in clip 16 rather than a flash of the lights. The driving in that clip was too impatient to consider the thought for the other road users and conditions. There was no slight movement to the centre line for a better view, and it was just a go for it moment. An experienced driver would not let Limp Bizkit affect their driving attitude 😂😂.
6:55 he breaks some rule at least once a second, just woah.
00:56 - Can't the police give the motorcyclist a fine and points on the driving licence for dangerous or reckless driving or driving without due care and attention?
Catch them first...
no plate???? Stolen bike? false plates?????
Got the complete package with the Audi driver at the end. Old Audi ✓ high mileage ✓ diesel ✓ driving like a complete turnip ✓ cheap ebay LED side lights flickering probably with a CANBUS error on the dash ✓ perfect.
The flickering always happens when you record led lights..that wont be visible to the naked eye. Correct on every other point though.
I wonder if self-driving AIs will learn to spot these sorts of risk factors too. :)
@@1ninjatiger Yes but i can guarantee they'll be flickering by the naked eye too, they always do because they're terrible quality.
@@archechme well you can’t really “guarantee” it lol some of the aftermarket lights are pretty good. A lot of these guys do spend a lot of money on their older cars. Can’t be sure about this moron though eh.
Also playing right turn lane/straight on bingo.
I drove a Tesla for 7 years and encountered the lights and away situation a lot. The problem is the instant torque meaning you can easily seem like you are “racing” in the first few feet. This triggers certain drivers it seems, I ended up starting off as slowly as I could, preferably after the other car had already done so, but it actually took a bit of practice.
When I was learning to drive my instructor would tell me give way to the right including when at the front of traffic lights. Whenever I'm at the front of the lights and in the left lane I generally do let the car in the right lane get in front of me first. Sometimes their speed kind of gestures to me to go in front of them which I might do if safe to do so.
Saying though about electric cars I had a Nissan leaf seem to speed off at the lights like he was trying to race in front of me. As you said though it must of been the instant torque from a standstill as he then proceeded to do 20mph in a 30 zone
@@Slicks21 I agree. I get overtaken all the time at a particular junction on my commute just the way you describe. Usually by people in Audis or BMWs knowing they can get away faster than my Corsa. Doesn't work against a Tesla though.
@@zaink7037 The problem in the clip you're referencing is the fact the right lane is a right turn only lane. The Audi had moved to that lane with no intention of turning, and you'd have to almost wait for them to clear the intersection before pulling away because there wasn't a lane for them after the lights. In some cases it's best to outrun an issue just as much as it's sometimes best to wait out a situation. It all depends on many factors, unfortunately the only common denominator is that a-holes will always be around.
@@----.__ ah if that's the case I'd see the audi in the wrong then. These people are really sad to think queue jumping in this means is going to save them significant time. Have reported a few drivers like this with a few of them getting action taken on them
@@zaink7037 All good mate, I had to watch it a few times to see the arrows. Nonetheless, your logic is sound, as would be expected from someone with such a magnificent moustache :) Peace mate.
7:03 - absolute proof that the driving test is too easy if this “driver” actually has a license 😂
7:21 extremely poor - obviously breaking the speed limit and involving serious tailgating beforehand (remember, AT LEAST a four-second gap is needed in wet conditions).
Oof, was that a bomb disposal unit (white lorry, yellow strip, blue border)? You don't want to mess with them!
As far as the the cyclist waving the car to come past? I never take instructions from anyone else, unless they're in uniform and authorised to give instructions. Every road user should make up their own mind before executing any kind of manoeuvre.
Tractors - have blind spots too, ever since the advent of ROPS regulations way back about 1972, and made worse with the introduction of fully enclosed operator protection. Tractors have 'A' 'B' and 'C' posts which, being part of the OPS are wide and thick, and can obscure anything from a bike to an articulated lorry. Tractor drivers need to be extremely vigilant, but also, other drivers need to be aware that they may not be visible to the tractor driver, especially if the tractor is joining the road obliquely, as in this case. Some might say that the tractor should have taken a straight approach, ninety degrees to the road, but the problem then is the loader which extends several feet in front of the tractor. This would mean that the loader would have been halfway out into the road before the driver could see the traffic.
Keep well clear of any farm machinery/vehicles, and remember, the driver may not be able to see you. Same rule as with HGVs - If you can't see the driver, then that driver cannot see you!
Newby driver - I saw exactly the same thing about twenty years ago, only that I was about 150 yards further back from the action. I was expecting a collision and took evasive action, but as the youth in his Opel Manta went spinning across the road, and back to his own side of the road, his wheels dug into the grass verge. The car rose up almost to 90° from horizontal, a fell back onto its wheels, and facing the wrong way. Without so much as getting out of his car, he started his engine and drove off in the direction of Pocklington. Ah, such is the exuberance of youth!
6:55 One of my personal "rules" is that I simply NEVER drive next to another car on a roundabout or multi-lane junction.
I'll stay behind any cars in other lanes and if somebody else enters the junction/roundabout and pulls alongside me I'll ease off slightly and let them get ahead.
There's simply too many muppets on the road to risk a collision because somebody hasn't checked their blindspot or they've suddenly decided they're in the wrong lane.
Kind of wishing I have a dashcam now. Was recently in a situation on my fourth or fifth drive; haven't driven with a driving instructor (just with my dad), and have less than 10 hours driving experience.
Was going around a blind bend at around 50mph, and let off the gas so it dropped a little below that still. Then comes into view a biker in the oncoming, closely followed by another biker in my lane, overtaking. I believe both were accelerating at the same time, for some reason? I almost completely let go of the gas and swerved but didn't slam on the brake, since I was/am inexperienced and I panicked a bit. Luckily there was no contact of any kind, but it was kind of a scary experience. Now I'm kind of wondering if I was slightly in the wrong for driving too fast, though I'm pretty sure I was going a little below 40 after coming out of the bend.
Either way, I can guarantee the biker's life flashed before his eyes the moment he saw the 'Learner' stickers haha
Shocking that he even wanted to overtake 2 cars in the pouring rain no matter how clear it is, but the white car wasn't paying attention
Plenty of "squeaky bum" moments - most of which could easily have been avoided 🤔. The opening clip was too close for comfort and very much reminded me of another 📽 featured on your channel last year.
Poor Roadcraft is the disease; Ash might be the cure.
Stay safe out there.
7:53 personally, I wouldn't have done it. However, that's a powerful car and although it was raining, I'd say very safe. Probably 10/10.
7:20 the cammer was going way too fast for the conditions. Crossed a junction, with a vehicle that _could_ have pulled out, at 60mph in heavy rain! Then went for a flying overtake at over 70mph. The BMW driver was very wrong to pull out without looking, but the cammers reactions were very poor. Yes, they managed to brake, however, the use of the horn was FAR too late, clearly the cammer was not anticipating this and did not have their hand on the horn ready during this manoeuvre.
8:25 Absolutely not defending the moped rider's actions, but I think I know what's going on. It's one of the inner London boroughs idiotic LTNs where they arbitrarily close off a residential road in the middle "to solve traffic" (hint: it doesn't, because it's an ideological crusade rather than a practical solution). Of course, rather than physically solve the problem by installing bollards, they've put up a couple of signs and a camera, because it's more profitable for the council to fine people unfamiliar with the area who makee a mistake than to actually stop them. The moped rider however is fully aware of this little scam and uses the footpath to bypass the camera (pedestrian safety be damned in the process).
While the book should be thrown at him, the blame for unintended consequences ultimately lies with the morons that run these councils. I've mentioned before in some previous clips that terrible and unintuitive road design is a significant contributory factor in quite a few collisions, and again we see here how ill thought-out road schemes wind up making them more dangerous for everyone.
Last clip re racing off the line. I get people challenging me when I am in the Golf R-Line, you can see it and I mouth …it’s only a 1.4!!! They see the R and think I have the 300Ps…I wave as they waste their petrol..
Did the clapped A3 think it had a chance against a Tesla? I'm no Tesla fanboy, but everyone knows those things are quick... till they run out of battery anyway.
You should be able to report littering like at 04:25 so they issue a penalty to the registered owner.
Clip 12: An RLC Bomb disposal vehicle. This would have been driven by an LGV driver who had received additional blue light training before being allowed out on the roads. Not a good advertisement for someone who is supposed to drive to a much higher standard than ordinary road users.
The reason I’d be hanging back from that EOD truck is because I’ve seen their efforts at engineering before and let me say there’s a reason why you’re chosen to go play with bombs, and it’s not because you’re valuable.
07:21 Rate the overtake = Terrible, unnecessary , dangerous. Also there is water pooling on right verge entering road which presents potential aquaplaning hazard.
Clip 12, 5:31, you’re passing big ‘move right’ arrows. Definitely shouldn’t be overtaking. The lorry was clearly trying to move right after the first car, but was holding back as it could see the camera car starting an overtake. Not sure why it swerved - perhaps a telling off? But being RLC, I’d like to think they’d be better than that ...
The levels of impatience and stupidity never cease to amaze me
That speeding round country lanes is the exact type of thing i did when i first passed my test getting cocky in the rain. I went up a ramp of the side and luckily a van passed and pulled me down. That was the last time i done something stupid.
Overtaking other vehicles at the start of a section of bus lane is always risky. You might be aware of the bus lane's operational hours but there's a good chance the other driver won't be and will instinctively move into the right hand lane.
Why are the police not able to charge the motor bike riders with reckless riding or failing to maintain proper control. Over here in Victoria Australia if a cop saw anyone do that they would be giving chase immediately.
Oh wow I’m clip 5 and didn’t realise I was close to the cyclist. I normally hang back until clear, and give loads of room as I’m a cyclist too. Does look close on the video though.
Just sort it going forward Kris. Thanks for sending in!
I’ve been overtaken in fog that was so thick you could barely see a few inches in front of you.
1:20 How are the police's hands tied? Because they're too lazy to do their jobs?
It's impossible for them to chase a motorbike when they're in a car, and they're not going to be able to get a helicopter/motorbike units out for a simple careless driving offence
@@timothymeyer3210 No one is asking them to chase. We can see the number plate. Yet the same people get away with it time and time again. It's lazy excuses as always
Even though I'm only looking at film my right foot is hovering over the imaginary brake pedal 😂
As a former test engineer that road tested tractors: Don't tailgate tractors, especially with trailers. I've had someone crash into me and both passengers ended up in the air ambulance. Whatever room you think is enough, double it. For your own safety!
Same thing with HGVs, do not tail gate them and also do not cut Infront of them when slowing down.
5:46 (clip 13) Appears to me that the driver has somehow rear-loaded their trailer. Good video to demonstrate why you should load from the front first whenever possible.
Yeah I was curious about how they'd accomplish that in a box trailer - I could understand in a curtainsider if their first drop was on the front (in which case it shouldn't have left the yard or done it second drop instead), but... The only thing I can think of is that he was picking up, say, 6 heavy pallets and stuck a bar across a few metres in and loaded to the rear doors to make unloading easier...
@@JulianShagworthy with the axles that far back, it would be challenging to accomplish.
@@JulianShagworthy or he was running cages, had them strapped in with a single strap that gave out during the drive. Forcing the cages to back of trailer.
My thing with littering is and always will be, if you could buy it, carry it and consume it, surely you can carry it to a bin
Country lanes are more lethal there's no barrier between you and them, they should be included in a driving test.
On the viewers overtake, always let the vehicle infront the oppertunity to overtake first.
For the overtake clip at @7:20, then, personally speaking, I am always very, very cautious if considering overtaking more than one vehicle, and only do so after allowing ample time for the second in the queue to overtake a slower moving vehicle first. As it is, the cammer appears to have started the overtaking manoeuvre almost as soon as the hatched lane. The conditions, with wet spray and poor visibility would have made me hesitate over that move, and I'd certainly have given some time for the second in line vehicle to overtake. I'd feel very uncomfortable doing a double in wet conditions.
I have processed the longitude/latitude figures for the clip, and for the period from the start until 17:16:29 on the dashcam, the cammer was averaging 50.4 mph, which is not ridiculously slow given the conditions. From that point, the cammer starts accelerating reaching 65 mph at the 17:16:32 interval when the white car signals to overtake. However, rather than backing off then, the acceleration continues reaching 71 mph at 17:16:34 a couple of seconds later. Then the speed drops rapidly, falling to 42 mph at 17:16:37 due to some fairly heavy braking.
Whilst there is some lag in the updating of co-ordinates of course, it seems to me the cammer ought to have backed off the instant the white car started to signal, whilst from the stats is seems it took a couple of seconds for that to have happened. The white car is, of course, culpable for not looking first, but there is a matter of self preservation here.
There is, of course, the issue of speeding when overtaking. That is, whatever the law might say about the matter, is it safer to briefly go over the speed limit to minimise the time spent on the "wrong" side of the road or should you pass at the legal speed limit? In this case, the cammer would have had no more than 10 mph in hand for the overtake at the legal speed limit. With a 2 second interval between vehicles (arguably more in the rain), and the speed they were travelling, he/she would have had to gain 74 metres to pull in safely (2 x 4 metre car lengths + 3 x 22 metre gaps). That speed differential of just 10 mph (4.5 metres per second) would have meant the passing manoeuvre would have taken over 16 seconds unless he/she closed the gap before moving out. In 16 seconds, that lead car would have covered 352 metres. If a car had been coming the other way at the legal speed limit of 60 mph (26.8 metres per second), then that would have travelled 429 metres in the opposite direction
What this means, is that the cammer would have to be able to see that there was a clear gap of almost 800 metres free of on-coming traffic. That's half a mile, and I wonder if anybody can see that far in such wet conditions. Of course passing at 70 mph, the time is halved, and the required gap is halved, as you have twice the differential speed.
I should add that the section of the A1303 shown (near Newmarket) is dead straight for another 1.9 km from where the overtake started with no side roads so in clear visibility it might not be a huge problem.
Impressive analysis!
I was taught by IAM Roadcraft to only overtake at the legal limit, but I agree it sometimes seems safer to go faster to reduce the TED (time exposed to danger). My instructor's comment was that if I needed to plan to exceed the speed limit then my overtake wouldn't be safe, so I shouldn't do it. I took the point, but I'd still prioritise safety in a situation like that.
@@R04drunner1 Thanks. I don't believe many people realise just how far you travel when overtaking, especially a double overtake like this (which I would have been very reluctant to do in those conditions). Generally, when I overtake I want to get it done as quickly as possible, and looking at the speedometer is not a priority, which is another way of saying that I undoubtedly do go over the speed limits at times (note, I'm not talking of dual carriageways where the issue doesn't arise).
However, I'd say overtaking is, for me, a rarity (unless I count cyclists). It's hazardous and unless there's a significant margin to the speed limit, it's not worth the limited time gained.
@@TheEulerID totally agree. I've learned to let the frustration slide, sit back and enjoy the ride.
Overtaking in the rain is certainly problematic and I dont think your viewer anticipated very well. Use of the horn suggests he wasnt very patient either.
Not had anyone obviously trying to race me in my Tesla but I do from time to time find there are occasional drivers who always "have to be in front". There are rather a large number of Audi drivers in this category - I have no idea why.
1:53 Cyclists trying to tell me to pass annoy me a little. I won't go till I judge it to be safe.
Would a flash of your light not imply to the other driver you are letting them come out to overtake ?
#16 Should let your indicator flash a few times before actually carrying out a maneuver.
I must admit, when Tesla's first came out over here, I attempted to keep up with one as we both pulled out of a layby onto a dual carriageway. I was in a reasonably quick car and was a bit curious about their reputation for acceleration. I soon learnt that there wasn't any point trying to keep up with one and never tried again.
nothing worse than a properly powered vehicle getting beat by some sh*ty battery car.
Since you get virtually instant torque in an EV, a combustion engine is bound to lose I am afraid.
@@andrewthomas2406 Nothing worse than a caveman thinking burning highly processed oil is a better way to create motion than harnessing magnetic fields properly.
Thankfully, engineers know better.
@@andrewthomas2406 do you drive an Audi by any chance?!
Tractors are scary when you're on a bicycle. One of those massive tractors with the huge tyres front and back come flying past me at full speed down a country road. The road was only wide enough for him but I couldn't move over because there was a ditch on each side. He could have moved over a bit into the ditch or slowed down but no. Imagine one of those wheels right up at the side of you at 25 mph. It was the closest pass I've ever had ..... bought some new bib shorts that weekend🤣
Clip 11: Yes, the cammer could have "read the script earlier". For one thing, at around 5:05 you can see brake lights on the car that's parked on the left in the side street. Meaning it's occupied and hence could move off. Especially also as the cammer would be in the parked car's blind spot whilst they are coming up to make the turn. Yes, the driver of the parked car should have carried out all round observation, including a shoulder check behind and to their right but it's quite predictable that they might not do so,
Tatton Drives and Patios LTD respond with threats and swearing if you email your concerns to them. Now they're asking how they can make the backlash to this stop. A company to avoid for sure!
5:35 Almost crashing into a bomb disposal vehicle. Lol
Was the NQ driver in the second clip piloting the car cos he came flying round the bend?