There is a similar theory relating to the RWS version of Toad Stands By. Unlike in the TVS, Toad was a part of the train with which Oliver tore S.C.Ruffey in half in the RWS. So theoretically, Toad could've planned for S.C.Ruffey to be ripped in half by Oliver, but obviously Oliver would've never agreed so he had to think of a cover. It worked and Toad was put on the train by Oliver, just in case. But Toad wanted to be sure S.C.Ruffey gets his due, so when the other trucks put their brakes on, he did so too and that little bit of extra braking power is what killed S.C.Ruffey.
@@ketelieappolon3617 In the book version Duck is shown genuinely disturbed by Scruffey's demise. I find it hilarious that they had him grinning in the TV adaptation 😂
We can have this work in the canon by having Toad tell the other brakevan in Twin Trouble to cause chaos, by claiming that Douglas is a brakevan killer and using that argument to convince the brakevan to harm Douglas. We can say that brakevan in the episode just saw an opportunity and used it.
Right, retconning the retcon because this makes Toad feel more evil! (must remember to add this and credit you when I do a recap for the eventual Part 2, if I may of course!)
This is a novel idea and I love it. I don't see toad as this mysterious evil mastermind, But it's just harmless fun at the end of the day, and I'm all for it!
To be honest, I actually very much enjoyed this "theory", it's a very unique take on Toad, and I would love to see more of Evil Toad! Keep up the great work, I'm very intrigued to see more of this take on Toad!
Ah cheers! I do want to make a follow up some time soon, but I'm gonna wait until I have a solid enough idea of where Toad's scheme is going and how things play out.
@@mechanicalshed4556 Ah, I see! I was thinking it could possibly play into that episode of the Brenner Era with James and Toad, and maybe Toad gets James into an accident or something, or even make an original story entirely, I'd be down to see it!
I've kept the Brenner stuff in mind for sure, Toad really shone in those years! I do consider CGI series it's own thing though so it's more likely going to be it's own story going forward. Plus if anyone wants to come up with ideas how things go from here I'm keeping my eyes peeled :)
I can easily see a heartfelt episode coming with toad and the trucks leading Douglas into a serious accident, where toad admits his motivations, and completely rips into Douglas before eventually the twins and the break van get together in harmony.
I’d like to expand to this theory: Maybe toad learned that Donald and Douglas were prone to falling out so he decided to take his plan one step further. (This takes place during the episode love me tender) Before Douglas leaves with Donald, toad tells the Scottish engine that his tender was loose and offers to tighten it. Douglas agrees, and tells his driver to tighten the coupling. Toad tricks Douglas’s driver into loosening it, and the episode happens as normal. The thumbnail scared the Jesus out of me btw
Absolutely daft, but that's half the fun of these sorts of theories. I do think Toad recognized that Scruffy might get ripped apart, though. I mean, he was obviously in terrible shape.
I think that this is true, somewhat. This DID happen on Sodor, but it was probably some other brakevan who basically lost his mind over time. Toad had mixed feelings on the Spiteful Brakevan, but at the same time it kinda had it coming, it was an L.N.E.R brakevan ( this could be a rivalry thing, or maybe… something about races? ) and well, something. I don’t know.
I wonder how many conspiracy theories started out as jokes, just as this video was, only to accidentally get taken seriously and become something bigger than their creators ever intended.
What happen next was duck ruins toad’s plan by yelling to Douglas “DONLAD’S IN TROUBLE!” and Douglas left him alone the save his twin. Ended up have the bond back together and toad mad at duck.
You didn't really have to pull off that retcon in Twin Trouble. Maybe just have Toad ask a fellow breakvan not to break when on Donald and Douglas' train.
Douglas: toad why would you want to get revenge on me Toad: to be honest, I just wanted to cause chaos mr Douglas Douglas: *bruh* In all seriousness, I think the idea of toad being evil is something I didn’t expect but really am glad it happened cause I had an idea for toad being a sort of assassin in another universe wanted by the police
Ive always had this theory about Douglas and Toad in the ending of "Little Western" that when that Douglas wanted to keep Toad as his brakevan before Oliver kept him to himself in future stories Ive always thought that Douglas wanted to keep Toad forever to himself without sharing with Oliver since he sees him more polite and charming than the spiteful one that he killed. "Ive got a plan Mr. Douglas... >:)" 😈🔪
Absolutely not we all saw how bad the spiteful break van got smashed we even saw his face separated from the rest of his body in the television episode plus in the RWS he is a NE 20- ton break van and in the TVS he is a BR 20- ton break van where as Toad as we all know is a GWR Toad break van so logical there's no way they're the same break van because the spiteful breakvan would be dead
"That's the way, Mr. Mechanical Shed. And if you leave that Like & Subscribe bit til' last, you'll have them watching this truck-load of nonsense contently..."
please pin this comment for my theory: You know how donald derailed in twin trouble? what if donald was trying to spite douglas and took toad instead but toad thought it was still douglas so in return asked "douglas" to put him on a siding, knowing he was in a bad mood and wasn't focusing he knew hed not see the buffers and derail, Donald hit the buffers and derailed but as he did toad saw the number 9 and realised he messed up as Donald plunged into the pit, he realised what toad had done and was furious, douglas soon arrived and Donald explained,, both twins set there glares on the brakevan, that night whilst the others were sleeping the twins made the excuse to use toad for a goods to barrow, they took him there....they left him on a siding in the smelting shed and painted scrap all over as the brakevan tried to plee his case, the shed doors shut, and toad..was left for dead..
@@mechanicalshed4556 I feel like in the RWS, when it mentions Toad being Douglas' breakvan for some time, Douglas probably wanted Toad to be his breakvan for now on for how respectful he is to him than the Spiteful one. But that doesn't last forever.
I like to believe Bertram worked on Mid-Sodor as per Unlucky Tug's headcannon. I have been putting together my own timeline but it's gonna be a long time before that's ready for the public eye xD
I haven't heard about that theory, I just joke that he's waiting in a siding like Hiro and they're all just waiting for Thomas to pop through the bushes xD
There is a similar theory relating to the RWS version of Toad Stands By. Unlike in the TVS, Toad was a part of the train with which Oliver tore S.C.Ruffey in half in the RWS. So theoretically, Toad could've planned for S.C.Ruffey to be ripped in half by Oliver, but obviously Oliver would've never agreed so he had to think of a cover. It worked and Toad was put on the train by Oliver, just in case. But Toad wanted to be sure S.C.Ruffey gets his due, so when the other trucks put their brakes on, he did so too and that little bit of extra braking power is what killed S.C.Ruffey.
Regardless of whether Toad has it in for the engines or not, I genuinely believe he wanted Scruffey in pieces xD
@@mechanicalshed4556 I think everyone but the trucks wanted him in pieces lol
@@ketelieappolon3617 In the book version Duck is shown genuinely disturbed by Scruffey's demise. I find it hilarious that they had him grinning in the TV adaptation 😂
@@mechanicalshed4556 I subscribed to your channel
@@mechanicalshed4556 yo, can i have a shoutout?
We can have this work in the canon by having Toad tell the other brakevan in Twin Trouble to cause chaos, by claiming that Douglas is a brakevan killer and using that argument to convince the brakevan to harm Douglas. We can say that brakevan in the episode just saw an opportunity and used it.
Right, retconning the retcon because this makes Toad feel more evil! (must remember to add this and credit you when I do a recap for the eventual Part 2, if I may of course!)
@@mechanicalshed4556 you can use it and credit me
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory Thank you! I'll make sure you're spared from Toad's evil doings xD
Toad enters his sith arc
Only a Toad deals in absolutes
This is a novel idea and I love it. I don't see toad as this mysterious evil mastermind, But it's just harmless fun at the end of the day, and I'm all for it!
Glad you love it! You've pretty much summed up the thoughts I had when I came up with the video 😂
To be honest, I actually very much enjoyed this "theory", it's a very unique take on Toad, and I would love to see more of Evil Toad!
Keep up the great work, I'm very intrigued to see more of this take on Toad!
Ah cheers! I do want to make a follow up some time soon, but I'm gonna wait until I have a solid enough idea of where Toad's scheme is going and how things play out.
@@mechanicalshed4556 Ah, I see!
I was thinking it could possibly play into that episode of the Brenner Era with James and Toad, and maybe Toad gets James into an accident or something, or even make an original story entirely, I'd be down to see it!
I've kept the Brenner stuff in mind for sure, Toad really shone in those years! I do consider CGI series it's own thing though so it's more likely going to be it's own story going forward. Plus if anyone wants to come up with ideas how things go from here I'm keeping my eyes peeled :)
@@mechanicalshed4556 Awesome! I'm already thinking of ideas for TTTE stories with this new Toad in mind! You've really inspired me! :)
@@Zwornik-Soldato Awh that's fantastic! You'll have to let me know when you have some, I'd love to check them out! :D
I’ve got a plan mister Douglas….
this is so absolutely bizzare and out-there and i love it.
Thank you! Hopefully more like that to come 😂
I can easily see a heartfelt episode coming with toad and the trucks leading Douglas into a serious accident, where toad admits his motivations, and completely rips into Douglas before eventually the twins and the break van get together in harmony.
I’d like to expand to this theory:
Maybe toad learned that Donald and Douglas were prone to falling out so he decided to take his plan one step further. (This takes place during the episode love me tender) Before Douglas leaves with Donald, toad tells the Scottish engine that his tender was loose and offers to tighten it. Douglas agrees, and tells his driver to tighten the coupling. Toad tricks Douglas’s driver into loosening it, and the episode happens as normal.
The thumbnail scared the Jesus out of me btw
I like the theory! That thumbnail scared me too xD
Absolutely daft, but that's half the fun of these sorts of theories. I do think Toad recognized that Scruffy might get ripped apart, though. I mean, he was obviously in terrible shape.
"Rotten wood, rusty frames. Unserviceable before it came."
I think that this is true, somewhat.
This DID happen on Sodor, but it was probably some other brakevan who basically lost his mind over time. Toad had mixed feelings on the Spiteful Brakevan, but at the same time it kinda had it coming, it was an L.N.E.R brakevan ( this could be a rivalry thing, or maybe… something about races? ) and well, something. I don’t know.
Someone needs to turn this into a fanfiction.
I would definitely read that!
Somebody already did
@@Bluegreenslug :O Can you remember what it was called?
@@mechanicalshed4556 you made it
It’s this video
@@Bluegreenslug Oooh I thought you meant other than this one, my bad 😂
Extremely interesting! Loved the out of the box thinking
Who drew the thumbnail? It looks really good!
Thanks! I worked late into the night on it, made myself jump a couple of times in the process 🤣
I've got a plan, Mr. Douglas.
Absolutely cracked, but I think it's a novel idea! Good show!
That thumbnail...woof.
Toad the Devious Brakevan.
that intro was phenomenal...
Loved the intro and the story in general, very amusing. I enjoy making up bullshit too.
That's a Good Theory of Toad.
This was a funny one. Good for a chuckle.
I wonder how many conspiracy theories started out as jokes, just as this video was, only to accidentally get taken seriously and become something bigger than their creators ever intended.
What happen next was duck ruins toad’s plan by yelling to Douglas “DONLAD’S IN TROUBLE!” and Douglas left him alone the save his twin. Ended up have the bond back together and toad mad at duck.
Duck needs to stay out of the picture or Toad has a problem :o I have considered working that "Donald in trouble" scene into Part 2!
I been telling people for years toad is a serial killers I hate to think how many poor trucks have met there end by this little monster
So long as those trucks follow his lead they should be fine... I think...
You didn't really have to pull off that retcon in Twin Trouble. Maybe just have Toad ask a fellow breakvan not to break when on Donald and Douglas' train.
Yeah that works better. I think the suggestion was made some time ago and so the retcon was retconned 😆
Toad the brakevan, head of Sodor mafia.
Nice
I loved this theory
Wow! Nice story!
Perhaps off screen Toad punished Douglas who's pulling a freight train alone by ordering the trucks to push him into a pond?
Sounds like a plan he'd make!
Douglas: toad why would you want to get revenge on me
Toad: to be honest, I just wanted to cause chaos mr Douglas
Douglas: *bruh*
In all seriousness, I think the idea of toad being evil is something I didn’t expect but really am glad it happened cause I had an idea for toad being a sort of assassin in another universe wanted by the police
Toad on wanted posters, it's gonna happen xD
That thumbnail though, I'm watching this at 2 am, will I be able to sleep tonight? 😮
Hopefully so, if it's of any consolation I nearly lost sleep to that thumbnail too!
Ive always had this theory about Douglas and Toad in the ending of "Little Western" that when that Douglas wanted to keep Toad as his brakevan before Oliver kept him to himself in future stories Ive always thought that Douglas wanted to keep Toad forever to himself without sharing with Oliver since he sees him more polite and charming than the spiteful one that he killed.
"Ive got a plan Mr. Douglas... >:)" 😈🔪
maybe as time went on, he forgot about getting revenge on douglas
This was enjoyable. I wanna see rhis theory again.
Hoping a follow up comes out soon, we'll see!
@@mechanicalshed4556 what do you mean?
@@onetrackmind3558 There's a sequel to this video in the works, can't confirm a release date yet though
@@mechanicalshed4556 sweet
Wouldn't toad also have it out for percy as he crushed a brakevan in percys predicament
"Oh... OOOOH, where's Percy?!"
I hear Diesel's Theme! But that's good 👍
Needed a troublemaker's theme, felt most fitting for this theory ☺
Absolutely not we all saw how bad the spiteful break van got smashed we even saw his face separated from the rest of his body in the television episode plus in the RWS he is a NE 20- ton break van and in the TVS he is a BR 20- ton break van where as Toad as we all know is a GWR Toad break van so logical there's no way they're the same break van because the spiteful breakvan would be dead
Did you really have to be a party pooper just enjoy the theory it’s a fun one
"That's the way, Mr. Mechanical Shed. And if you leave that Like & Subscribe bit til' last, you'll have them watching this truck-load of nonsense contently..."
(request) Can you do a part 2 please
We need more of this
More is in the works :D
IS TOBY GOING TO MURDER SOMEONE!?!? :O
@@thepolishgenerator5915 Toby nooo! I know you're upset about being forgotten about in All Engines Go but this reaction isn't the way!!! xD
I bet his subject will be James.
He probably would go for James!
If this theory is canon then toad could be the Eric cartman of thomas and friends
Please make a part two Douglas is my favorite🚂🚂
Gotta love some Douglas! Part 2 is in development, one day it shall be released 😂
You just got A new sus
Can you please make a video about how Donald and Douglas meet bill and Ben for the first time
God bless you✝️✝️✝️
I bet toad and diesel would make a great team.
This Toad for sure. Unlike Diesel, Toad gets away with his schemes 😂
Lol the thumbnail
Quite the theory. I like it tho.
Someone should make a Goon Show-parody of "Thomas the Tank engine and Friends"!..
When is the next part
No idea tbh 😂
Can you please make a video about how Donald And Douglas meet bill and Ben for the first time 🚂🚂🚂🚂
On that we'll see, I'll make a note of it 😊
Thank you I appreciate it God bless you and your channel ✝️✝️✝️
I have removed toad’s chassis cause of this
That's the way Really Useful Trackmaster Fan, Toad won't cause any trouble now!
turn him into a generator
please pin this comment for my theory: You know how donald derailed in twin trouble? what if donald was trying to spite douglas and took toad instead but toad thought it was still douglas so in return asked "douglas" to put him on a siding, knowing he was in a bad mood and wasn't focusing he knew hed not see the buffers and derail, Donald hit the buffers and derailed but as he did toad saw the number 9 and realised he messed up as Donald plunged into the pit, he realised what toad had done and was furious, douglas soon arrived and Donald explained,, both twins set there glares on the brakevan, that night whilst the others were sleeping the twins made the excuse to use toad for a goods to barrow, they took him there....they left him on a siding in the smelting shed and painted scrap all over as the brakevan tried to plee his case, the shed doors shut, and toad..was left for dead..
The dark theory where Toad definitely doesn't win!
@@mechanicalshed4556 yup
Next theory is the spiteful brakevan dead
Maybe if I can find enough material on Spiteful to work from... 👀
@@mechanicalshed4556 I feel like in the RWS, when it mentions Toad being Douglas' breakvan for some time, Douglas probably wanted Toad to be his breakvan for now on for how respectful he is to him than the Spiteful one. But that doesn't last forever.
I think they turned him into a truck
@@a.r.c5377The truck from the infamous story "Down the hill"?
Next theroy Bertram is duke’s long lost brother
I like to believe Bertram worked on Mid-Sodor as per Unlucky Tug's headcannon. I have been putting together my own timeline but it's gonna be a long time before that's ready for the public eye xD
I take this 100% seriously
Bro what is the thumbnail
i hated this but yet its amazing than the theory where boco died
I haven't heard about that theory, I just joke that he's waiting in a siding like Hiro and they're all just waiting for Thomas to pop through the bushes xD
i own a 3d face tomy toad, am i gonna die?
So long as you're not Douglas I think you're fine, no Toads have come after me yet :D
Toad is a needed evil
This is more true than the slave theory
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