What We Know About Light No Fire
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- What We Know About Light No Fire
This is the info we know about Light No Fire. We have one interview with Sean Murray and one trailer on Light No Fire but they have a ton of info in them. I am breaking down the interview and also sharing my thoughts on what we might see in Light No Fire and possibly a release date for it as well.
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I will pre order Light No Fire because of everything Hello Games has done with No Man’s Sky since it launched
I would also preorder it if I didn't have a strict rule against preorders. I am hyped despite my no hype rule, and I'm extremely excited for the first reviews.
@@exciting-burp6613 I probably won’t pre order until a week before because I very rarely pre order anything anymore
I'm going to pre-order the deluxe edition. I haven't pre-ordered a game ever.
I pre-ordered NMS and got the steelcase edition. Definitely doing the same with LNF
Agreed
To the skeptics saying one planet isn't that big, bear this in mind. The Lewis and Clark expedition from Missouri to the west coast took 862 days. The planet is freaking huge.
Earth is ~24,000 miles in circumference, average walking speed 3mph, so 8,000 hours to walk right round - assuming you could walk at sea level the whole time and never sleep, that's 333 days, not 90 days as Jason said.
I think L & C did pause quite a bit on their journey.
@@ziploc2000 Exactly! They stopped to make camp, and they were traversing all new territory and biomes with a full complement of equipment, laden wagons, and no maps or prior knowledge of what threats were out there beforehand. Light No Fire is going to begin quite similarly. I have to think it'll take way more than 90 days to circumnavigate the game's world.
@@ziploc2000 Yeah 333 days if you don't sleep, take breaks or anything. If you walked for just shy of a year solid, then you would cross the earth. Oh, And that doesn't account for elevation increases such as climbing mountains. You account for terrain difference and things like that, it would take over 365 days non-stop walking to cover the entire earth(guesstimating).
@Fazeshyft I'm looking forward to light no fire for the social aspect, if what we build stays consistently, how long until we see groups of players build cities, then kingdoms in multi-player if they find a good location. Set up roads or markers for paths through mountains, act as guides for other players
I hiked the Triple Crown (Appalachian Trail, Continental Divide Trail, and Pacific Crest Trail). Thru-hiked each trail from beginning to end. But it took me 5 years due to off years.
Earth is MASSIVE.
I was only hiking in the United States.
The dragon takeoffs in the trailer are identical to NMS ship takeoffs. They’re definitely rehashing the same systems with a different theme and I think that’s the correct move considering how much work they’ve put into NMS
It makes sense given all the experience they've gained from NMS. The take off mechanic feels like a no brainer if it means it incorporates itself in-game nicely. I will admit though, a more organic look would be lovely if they have the time in the future.
That's the correct move because walking an Earth-sized planet would be painfully boring.
It would be cool if they make a flight system like they have in WOW with their dragon flying.
@@kyriosmalaka2312I hope that add ships tho
I hope there's story, a plot, a start and end point plus replayability as in the ability to make multiple characters.
If they're struggling with a place to start in story it can just be arcs instead, for each zone, have an arc focus on a specific genre, horror, comedy, romance etc, doesn't have to be complex either.
God I hope we get something, a trailer, a gameplay video, a date. Nms is the game I come back to time and time again, this game will end all games for me if it has as much to do as nms has and if it’s looked after for another 10 years good god!
The only thing I hope they don't do is a lot of fast travel. The thing I love about No Man's Sky is the fact that we have to explore, so I hope we don't have too many places that can make it easy to traverse different biomes. That way we can enjoy exploring different biomes.
even if they have that option you don't have to use it.. You know that right!? Some people don't have a lot of time for gaming so fast travel for those will be appreciated.
@@idc9419 I get what you mean and I'm one of those people who doesn't have a lot of time to spend on games. I just hope they keep the exploration side of things as the core aspect of the game because I feel it's what separates no man's sky from other games. Fast travel points are good but if too many of them are added then it kills the fun of exploring.
On the other side of things, they need it. How will i find my friends if they dont have a way to get to me? What if we build on opposite sides of the planet. Am i supposed to wait 2 weeks till we hopefully stumble on eachother?
8:08 About building a dragon; Maybe the egg sequencer is a precursor to some kind of breeding system in the game to create a type of dragon. Like coloration, or the head from one and the wings from another.
That's what I was thinking too.
I pre-ordered NMS, this shows more initial promise then that did. I'll be pre-ordering this for sure.
So excited for this game. I will be so immersed can't wait
This is the only game I am excited about at the moment! Can't wait!
I feel like mounts are gonna be like living ships, where you start off with an egg. Maybe there will be a way to edit the properties of said egg so you can get the exact type and color of bird or dragon you want.
I think your chat's math was a little off: Circumference of the Earth is approx. 24,881 miles. Average human walking speed is 3 to 4 mph. That's 6,200 to 8,200 hours, or 259 to 346 days to walk around the earth...No rests no breaks...
Yeah I was like "There's no way you could walk around the earth in 90 days." XD
it would take over 8000 hours to walk around the earth. a little less than 1 year.... not 90 days
And that’s walking in a straight line around the equator lol. Dunno where he got 90 days from
@@HCROfficial2012 Maybe he thought Around the World in 80 Days was a book about walking?
This game has so much potential its unreal and a really logical progression from the systems from no mans sky. The thought of wandering off in a direction for literal weeks and discovering and building little markers or buildings to say 'hey i was here' is so cool. The servers have got to have at least 64 people if not more to work well
One thing I'm excited about is having boats in Light No Fire.
I'm excited Jason!!!
I will back Hello Games all the way. They have done an amazing job with NMS. And I’ll be here for it. Thanks Jason!
Looks and sounds like it will be awesome. Can't wait to see more on character development.
So excited!
Some of my predictions/wishlist:
-Many different races which pull inspiration from many different real-life cultures (Africa, Asia, Native Americans, etc.), so the overall feel is more akin to something like WoW than D&D.
-Unique class system which allows you to more or less build your character's "class" based on weapon skills, various schools of magic, and so on
-Although it's not a sci-fi game per se, as a nod to NMS, the story has a number of overarching celestial themes to it. Astronomy is a skill you can learn to help with navigation and possibly unlock some other secrets of the stars. The random spheres & robots we saw in the trailer play a role in the story and are eventually revealed to belong to an alien civilization.
I am excited to watch you play it on your channel! You are my favourite NMS content creator.
Can't wait to try it out.
Hope it starts better than NMS did.
Gonna be day 1 entry to this game. 100%. All there experience they learned over the years will carry over to this game.
I would love to see Hello Games add multi tool customizing. That would be the next thing
U got multitool customization on the staffs...u can keep getting other heads,poles and midpieces to build ur perfect staff
Hello Games went from zero to hero, based on the almost 1000 hours I've spent in NMS and my treasured "Immortal" Title, I expect LNF will be utterly astounding. If they can avoid the mistakes made during NMS's release and early days I can't think of any reason this new game wouldn't be a smash hit.
Nice overview, @JasonPlays. I'll be giving Light No Fire serious consideration when it is out. We can reasonably expect a much more polished experience than day one NMS, as well. I just hope that with a reputedly very large world, Hello Games doesn't fall into the same traps that Bethesda did in Starfield, with a disjointedness due to how the playfield(s) were structured and spread out.
One small nitpick ~4:15 - 4:25 "No other team has done something like NMS" - I think I get where you're coming from, _but_ :
- if we're talking procedural planet -> galaxy generation - *cough* Elite *cough* - 1984. Then, two Frontier Elite titles, then Elite: Dangerous (which matches NMS for playfield scale and has the exoflora) - all predating NMS
- if we're talking procedural species generation - *cough* Spore *cough*
I don't recall any noteworthy prior titles combining the two items above, but the point is that in broad terms, much of what NMS promised at launch _had_ already been done, to an extent.
NMS was pretty rough at release. Totally agree with you that what Hello Games has done with NMS since, is nothing short of awesome!
I am just playing through the latest FREE expansion to NMS. I have been playing NMS since launch and with each FREE update and FREE expedition the game became more complete and filled in a Universe that because of the stories premise worked perfectly even if it was inadvertently achieved. I am hoping that HG can pull this off again. In my opinion they have done something outstanding and rare in this modern gaming climate. I will be getting LNF on release purely because of what they managed with NMS.
cant wait!
I CANT WAIT IM So excited for this game. mof def streaming this on my free time!!!
Oh well Jason.,no news on summer fest but look on the bright side..,we still have it to look forward to 👍
Hype! Hype! Hype! Can't wait. =)
I've only been playing NMS since January...but if I had the money to preorder I would. This game honestly sounds like it's going to be pretty amazing! More so the exploring.
I haven't felt excited for a game in years since probably metro exodus, this I am ecstatic for.
Agreed with everything you just said! We will get an announcement June 7th with a release date of fall! I hope this is as good as valhiem for base building and immersion!
I can't wait to play this
Also hoping for 2024 release
Im hoping this is going to be everything we all hope for because it has so much potential. But being a pessimist i doubt its going to avoid my biggest gripe about nms and thats the reason for exploring. I want quests, missions, hidden items, dungeons, story line and side, a reason for exploring not just for the sake of it, nms just didnt have enough of that for me, what was there was amazing and its still enjoyable to jump on now and then but just doesnt hold me long enough.
Of course I'm excited for LNF !! I'm also pre-ordering day 1 !!!
This sounds really cool and I just want to know more, especially since it's a fantasy settings, what will be our character progression like? Will there be xp? (most likely) what will be the skills and skill trees like? Will we get classes? What kind of races? This is what I want to know the most because I know everyhthing else will be delivered by Hello Games, they've proven over and over that they're amazing at world building, at story telling and the likes... However, fighting? It's one of the weakspot of NMS so I'm a bit anxious there to know more.
However, they do have NMS experience so it will probably be something pretty amazing.
I agree with you Jason I will pre-order light no fire as soon as possible I feel Hello games has proved itself overwhelming
Wonder if we can breed different elemental type of dragons
when they ‘take off’ / start flying using the dragon in the trailer it looks like the 3rd person starship takeoff like the camera shakes a little even and the angle feels like it’s the same. Just something i’ve noticed
What I want to know is how Hello Games is going to make this fun. I don't plan on climbing up virtual Mount Everest anymore than I walk even one hour in one direction in No Man's Sky. I suspect that we'll all be using flying mounts to avoid the Snorefield effect. If it's mostly just walking, count me out.
If you take into consideration the RPG elements that are going to be in the game, and you also take into consideration that millions may be playing this at some point, the spread of those people mean that progression can't really be tied to zones. Yes, you might have some areas that are more difficult to navigate with stronger enemies, but it can't be too much because some players may be spawned there. So, how could progression be handled? Where are we going to find those rare materials and perhaps those rare chests that contain upgrades or better equipment? Consider the statement 'bigger than Earth' and also the end of the trailer. I believe progression (in terms of getting better equipment and tools) is going to be centred around 'down'. We can all happily play on the surface, building our characters up slowly and exploring at will, but it's going to be exploring beneath the surface that the real dangers rear their ugly head. Huge cave systems and caverns with phosphorescent light in lieu of daylight. A whole other world below to explore, hence 'bigger than Earth'.
Sounds pretty cool and if it's solo player friendly, I will definitely buy it.
I cannot wait for this game! Definitely my most wanted game in developement!
I can't wait
Well NMS has a record of the game with the biggest UNIVERSE! if this team can actually pull off what they wanna do with this new game, this game will literally be the biggest (map wise) game of all TIME! im rooting for them all the way!
Hopefully super detailed
That looks awesome ! Sold ! Nms has exceeded my expectations now its a great game
I cannot wait to play this game. I prefer to buy games on disc for trading in later but this is one that will be cement on the system like No Man's Sky and Dreams for me.
Sean clearly stated that a SMALL group of developers have been working on this. We're not talking about all developers working on the game like they did with NMS. and that doesn't even include Sony's help to get their exclusive NMS shipped. Drawing parallels between this game NMS in this sense isn't viable. They'll showcase the game but a release in 2024 is unlikely.
Yeah, I can definitely see the similarities between the NMA spaceships and the flying dragons in LNF. Unless LNF has procedurally generated maps, this game will be dead in the water because once you introduce flight the depth and "size" of a map shrinks dramatically.
Jason!!❤
I have tons of questions!! I wonder if it's as huge as they say, will each structure that is built by a player, broken, etc... persist for everyone? Like you could generate an address, etc.
I can’t wait for this game. I think this game will revolutionize multiplayer survival.
At and average human waking speed of 5 km/h, to circle the Earth, at the equator, a distance of 40,075 km, would take 8,015 hours, or 333.9 days, if you walked 24 hours a day. If you traveled a more reasonable eight hours a day, that is 1019.7 says or roughly 2.8 years. (A bit longer that 90 days.)
They could have those boats that fly in some fantasy games as a customizable aircraft. I think it would fit the theme. Most people would probably prefer animals, but the boats could be like a guild or party thing where you have multiple people on it interacting. Basically like the animals are the equivalent of ships and the boat things are freighters that can travel, but at a slower speed. Maybe even an option to let it auto pilot or just hover while you do stuff. Or it could just be a mobile base. They may not add that, but that would be how ship customization would apply.
I'll supress my hype until I know more about the game.
Like how well is singleplayer gonna be implemented? Will you be able to start from scratch in a new procedurally generated planet?
Will we get a continuosly updated MP world (similar to 1 hour 1 life im thinking) or will this be like different planets then maybe portal hub area like the anomaly so we can just infinitely generate a new world if we get bored of our current one?
I am really looking forward to LNF. I was very late to NMS. I have put 800+ hrs into NMS since Exped 10 when I bought it. The only games to grab my attention this way were Terraria and Warframe. I can see them letting you "build you dragon mount." Gather an egg, a fertilization type, and an environmental nest type, and boom you get a very varied way to breed unique mounts. The NMS ship building and Atlantidid staff building is very similar to modular crafting in Warframe, and makes for amazing customization. Really can't wait for LNF. Same excitement vibes as when Terraria came out.
I’ll likely pre-order once it’s available. This go around Hello Games isn’t under the pressure of a publisher like Sony when they launched NMS. There was likely some pressure from Sony to get it out when they probably felt it wasn’t quite ready. Plus how Sony put Sean in all the spotlight when he wasn’t the right guy for that kind of PR. They’ve learned from that experience and are being more tactful in when and how they’re presenting Light No Fire so they don’t have another NMS launch disaster. I’m confident that this one will have a better launch.
Man I’m ready for this game to get done
oh now im hyped for this game wow
Think it really breaks down to almost a year to walk around the planet (roughly 346 days).... and that's in a straight line no obstacles.
Gonna be lotsa walkin'! Earth is 24,900 miles (40K+ kilometers) around the equator so if Sean, and the Hello Games crew, is shooting for that size, . . . oh boy! I think it's probably the better part of a year to walk that (walking on water skills notwithstanding).
LNF will be nowhere near that large, unless you're thinking of another game. People are just drumming up rumors at this point.
One of the only games that might get me back into gaming
I'm hyped for it. Lately, though, I am kind of burnt on the survival builder genre.
Looks like a great game !!!!
For Hello Games I will pre-order.
I would prefer order this game. I've stopped pre ordering but for few games I still will
i'm dying to play this
In a fantastic looking world filled with dragons, I would LOVE to see some wild underwater creatures!!!
"Come on baby light no fire"
Time to set the night on... no fire!
I'm so hopeful for this game. No Man's Sky is magical.
What?! Wow!!
Back when SM announced LNF, my gut said late 2024. I still think that is quite possible, perhaps Nov-early Dec.
I am very curious as to whether there will be one main starting area at a specific place on the world, or perhaps several starting areas spread across the world. Also will certain areas of the world be more dangerous requiring player advancement before entering them (dungeons/player/story progression POIs excluded)? And will there be designated building areas, or will we be able to build in any region of the world?
I believe they are going to drop a breakout hit!
My guy! No building dragons! What about the egg sequencer?Also NMS was originally released by a team of just 12 people, there are many more working on this than there were originally with NMS.
Your stream chat was way off on how long traveling around the earth would take. You're looking at closer to a year. And, remember, that is nearly a year of uninterrupted travel time. That means no oceans in your way, no mountains, no wildlife attacks, and no stopping to explore, or sleep. The earth is massive, so an earth sized planet will be an insanely large world for us to explore.
I heard that this game won't be on consoles I hope that it will change and put on consoles it looks great.
Hello Games.....take my money already.
It'd be cool if (assuming LNF has the community expedition system) on launch LNF gets an expedition that has NMS style stuff and NMS gets an expedition with LNF style stuff.
Question, do you think it will come out on consoles at the same time as PC?
It would be interesting if down the road once they’ve got down the Earth scaling for Light no fire that they could marry the earth scaling for a planet with the NMS universe scaling to bring a whole new level of space exploration. That would seem to be the next level of ambition once Light No Fire has been out and matured.
The biggest problem with NMS at launch was Sony/Playstation and their timeline to push the game out on the launch day and patch it after, Sony is the major issue with why Nms had so many problems, which is why Hello games refused am exclusive deal with anyone after that game, but I can bet LNF will launch on Gamepass day 1
HG have proven they can create a good world. What's yet to be proven is their grasp of RPG mechanics. I sincerely hope things like NPC interactions, dungeon crawling, and combat are full featured. No Man's Sky, even after all the updates, still lacks something. Here's hoping LNF is an evolution in the right direction.
Average walking speed is about 3-4 mph. It would take around 300 days to walk around the earth. Obviously this varies with walking speed, but yeah...
Avg walking speed, 3 mph... would take just short of a year to walk around the earth in a straight line back to origin point. Right about 346 days. Walking 24 hours a day, no sleep, no rest, no stopping for anything. I've always wondered how long it takes to walk around a planet in NMS, just have way better things to do than that.
They will get my money.
Adrift is preparing us for LNF; I see a replay just before release in the fall.
So, what exactly are we expecting the gameplay loop to be? I've gotten a crap ton of hours in NMS, but the sandbox style games are not for everyone. I have two close friends who are also gamers that have zero interest in NMS. NMS is really about creating your own adventure. Sure, there is the campaign to follow if you want, but even that is not required. There are a lot of gamers that need to be led by the hand and need an obvious gameplay loop.
I no longer play MMO's, but there are MMO elements that I always thought would be great for NMS. How would Light No Fire be classified?
If you think about it. It takes 6 hours FLYING nonstop to get from New York to LA.
With no terrain, It would take 207.5 straight days to walk around the world at the above average walking speed of 5mph. 4,980 hours. I can’t wait.
I think this will be a game that I pre-order as well. Hope it's not released at the same time as Starfield's Shattered Space DLC.
Imagine wanting a certain mineral for a build... But the closest deposit is a week of travel away... Glorious! Would definitely incentivise trading with other players.
The map isn't going to be anywhere that large, lol.
@@atlantic_love It's going to be bigger than earth lol
@@waffleten9750 It won't be, just watch. You believe everything you hear?
If you never sleep or rest it will take closer to a year to walk around earth
The only PVE game I truly care about.
if you trust that dev's lies for a second time then you know what that makes you
I wonder if they will do dimmensions like magic portals to undead or hell...would be cool
It's no man's sky's engine with different seed assets.
Earth is roughly 24,000 miles in circumference. The average human walking speed is around 3 miles per hour. That's about 8,000 hours, or 333 days, of walking.
90 days to walk no bob hope !!! Thats like walking 2200 miles a week even if everything was flat over 300 miles a day is a push u would have to run at a pace of Usain bolts WR constantly. Probably more like 2 years give or take. So the planets huge ..., it will be very hard to fill it with enough interesting things, hope he does.