lmaooo bro its the same as a 3rd gen . just get the tacoma . im keeping my paid off 21 tacoma . will never go Nissan. most of you people dont keep your trucks more than 3 years
Yeah the economy has tanked pretty bad in the last 4 years and is messing everything up. But hopefully we can see a deflation in prices and get back to where we used to be
@limelife7457The new engine is actually a better design. The 4th Gen looks better and is a better overall design. It’s not worth the cost though. They are already doing big price cuts to move trucks.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q I'm sure it's a great engine. Just won't have the longevity of a simple v6. That's what most Toyota enthusiasts like. Simple and reliable.
@@m.687 Toyota has a had good track record with 4 cylinder turbos. It actually has a lot fewer parts than the 4 cam 24 valve V6. Change the oil every 7500 miles with full synthetic and it will run forever.
Good Video! We have a 2023 & 2024 Off Road. I think the 2024 looks better, more chisled and muscular and my son agrees. So a few things this 2024 gets is a new engine which is more torque and get up and slightly better mileage, a much improved smooth 8 speed transmission, an improved ride and handling with new coil rear suspension and safety sense 3.0 which is in a different universe from the previous generation and you also get a deeper bed. These upgrades are worth the cost but if you don't want to pay them get a used model or a maverick since they are supposedly less cost. I will say the tech is much better and modern but the use of hard plastics is not a step in the right direction. Frontier wil likely go to a turbo and change up soon so get them while you can if Nissan is acceptable to you. BTW was that a prius that passed you when you were trying to accelerate in the 3rd gen? 🤣 I love how the 3rd gen owners now say the truck isn't SLOW and the transmission doesn't gear hunt...🙄
The 3gn looks better and it has a proven engine for years the 4gn looks almost identical to a tundra smaller and the 2.7 liter engine its a pandora box witch we have to see if it last as long as the v6 engine.
But the engine is built to handle the boost. Also you keep it in lower RPM under normal driving. The high RPM puts a good amount of stress on the engine anyways. So Id think this engine isn't pushing that hard overall
I'm curious about the higher trim levels. These look fairly plain. I would prefer more of a sports truck with the best suspension and fat fenders and tons of features. Albeit at a price.
the turbo engine and interior and the way better frame and the better suspension and the 8 speed transmission and. the technology and the better seating position etc ... still not 10,000 more. 5 grand maybe.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed When you shut the tailgate in the vid I thought the tailgate was still open. Watch that part over again. My 3rd gen has gap issues but not like that 4th gen on your vid. Did they fix the A/C drain hose? Does it still drip on the frame? I haven't seen anyone talking about that.
@@cbayless4294 hmm yeah I see that a bit. I think just the angle made it look big. From straight back I person they both looked similar. Next time I’m with one in person I’ll take a closer look. No clue about any AC issue.
4th gen is trash all the way around. Body panel gaps are unacceptable. The price is ridiculous. Having a 4 cylinder as the only motor option is government incentive cash grab garbage. Turbo 4 cylinder will never have the longevity of the NA. The new ceo is a clown that is alienating their current customers. I traded in my 17 limited for a 23 4x4 off road. Will never get a turbo anything.
stephenflores is correct. toyota really f*cked up the tacoma. you will find that out at trade in time. even TFL dumped theirs before they got de-valued so badly.
It really doesn't feel cheaper. It is more comfortable to sit in, has better tech and much more peppy to drive. SO it's a better truck. But yes the price is a ton more for no real reason aside from the awful inflation we've seen over the last 4 years
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I wanted a 4WD to begin with, but when I bought the 22 2WD it was during the height of the pandemic and it was a supply chain issue. They said, 2 to 3 month wait for 4WD. At the same time I had just sold my 21 year old 4Runner and needed a vehicle to get to work and back. The only reason why for the Nissan is because of the NA V6 and a long term reliability , 4x4 for occasionally out landing camping on the local mountains.
I traded in my 2024 TRD sport for an low mileage 2023 Tacoma . Deal breaker for me was trying to add a trailer brake controller to the 2024 . After having the dealer blow smoke up my ass for a month about they would look after it and add the controller . I got fed up and just found an honest dealer /
You can buy a 2024 Tacoma with the trailer braking system, from the factory. Why didn’t you buy one with that already? That’s how my off-road will come, it’s not dealer installed, it’s factory.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed The trim version with built in brake controler was an extra 8K with tax in Canada . The salesman told me that I could add my own to the 2024 .
@@BrosFOURRSpeedbecause i have a higher chance of seeing a ufo than a 4th gen tacoma on my areas roads. Ill correct myself....either people ARE buying them, but are doing everything they can to stay hidden.... , or, they just aren't selling and can only be seen sitting on dealer lots.
To say that ur not worried about reliability shows a lack of understanding of the lifespan of a turbo. The sad reality of any turbo is they just do not last. There undoubtedly will come a day when u will have to replace that turbo, which will cost a very significant amount of money.
Had a 2018 Tacoma off road and I got the new 2024 Tacoma sport and I love it more than my previous one
Nice! I like the updates overall. Just gotta pay for it. But great trucks!
Sell me your 2018
I decided to frontier pro-x, tacoma is too much money.
Cool option for sure. But less money
I’m a Toyota fan … I would go frontier also if buying new
lmaooo bro its the same as a 3rd gen . just get the tacoma . im keeping my paid off 21 tacoma . will never go Nissan. most of you people dont keep your trucks more than 3 years
@@kevinkidneyy true
@@kevinkidneyy thats true.....get rid of the tacoma 4 banger before the warranty expires.......FOR SURE!
Hopefully the price comes down or wages increase. The middle class can't afford new trucks in this economy.
Yeah the economy has tanked pretty bad in the last 4 years and is messing everything up. But hopefully we can see a deflation in prices and get back to where we used to be
My Limited gets built on 10/28. Can't wait!
Sweet, congrats!
The 3rd gen actually looks better
Both look good, but the new one looks much nicer!
Oh ABSOLUTELY !
@limelife7457The new engine is actually a better design. The 4th Gen looks better and is a better overall design. It’s not worth the cost though. They are already doing big price cuts to move trucks.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q I'm sure it's a great engine. Just won't have the longevity of a simple v6.
That's what most Toyota enthusiasts like. Simple and reliable.
@@m.687 Toyota has a had good track record with 4 cylinder turbos. It actually has a lot fewer parts than the 4 cam 24 valve V6. Change the oil every 7500 miles with full synthetic and it will run forever.
The 2024 disposable/throwaway pick-up truck is the undisputed winner in our society. 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hu? My brother is buying one, sold his 3rd gen for it, it'll be a great truck!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed good luck to your brother😳
I don't think Toyota is going to lose any followers. The just modernized power train which it was due. Great video!
I agree. The people who hate the new one wouldn't be selling their current Toyotas for another 200k miles anyways lol
Thank you for the video🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🫶🫶🫶👍👍👍👍👍👍😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
Glad you liked it!
Good Video! We have a 2023 & 2024 Off Road. I think the 2024 looks better, more chisled and muscular and my son agrees. So a few things this 2024 gets is a new engine which is more torque and get up and slightly better mileage, a much improved smooth 8 speed transmission, an improved ride and handling with new coil rear suspension and safety sense 3.0 which is in a different universe from the previous generation and you also get a deeper bed. These upgrades are worth the cost but if you don't want to pay them get a used model or a maverick since they are supposedly less cost. I will say the tech is much better and modern but the use of hard plastics is not a step in the right direction. Frontier wil likely go to a turbo and change up soon so get them while you can if Nissan is acceptable to you.
BTW was that a prius that passed you when you were trying to accelerate in the 3rd gen? 🤣 I love how the 3rd gen owners now say the truck isn't SLOW and the transmission doesn't gear hunt...🙄
You couldn’t have said it any better.. too many people hating coz it’s not the reliable slug v6..
Thanks for sharing! and yeah, funny how that happens!
The 3gn looks better and it has a proven engine for years the 4gn looks almost identical to a tundra smaller and the 2.7 liter engine its a pandora box witch we have to see if it last as long as the v6 engine.
We'll have to see
@@BrosFOURRSpeed It won't
@@m.687 what info do you have to back that up?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed The 4 cylinder will be more stressed to produce the same power a V6 can. Hence the lower lifespan.
@@m.687 We'll have to see. Has more torque down lo. So you don't need to go into high RPM to get the power
Will be cool to turn the boost up on the new tacoma and get a tune. Hopefully a brand like cobb accessport maybe come out with tunes.
Yeah that'd be really cool to see!
it feels like its not stressing the motor but the turbo is
But the engine is built to handle the boost. Also you keep it in lower RPM under normal driving. The high RPM puts a good amount of stress on the engine anyways. So Id think this engine isn't pushing that hard overall
I'm curious about the higher trim levels. These look fairly plain. I would prefer more of a sports truck with the best suspension and fat fenders and tons of features. Albeit at a price.
Yeah hopefully we can check out some more loaded tires. We filmed a white TRD Sport recently and it had that $8k package with the nice interior.
23 Tacoma is solid 24 Tacoma is modern …
Both are great!
the turbo engine and interior and the way better frame and the better suspension and the 8 speed transmission and. the technology and the better seating position etc ... still not 10,000 more. 5 grand maybe.
Yeah it's a better truck. But certainly costly!
Thanks 😊, did you find 14" screen to be too big or obstruct your view? Thanks
Honestly I think it looks a bit big. The smaller screen looks fin in the interior.
You left out how much wobble the glove box has and the front Grille lol 😆
I didn't mess with the glove box. However the old truck grille shakes a lot when closing the hood
Also the Grand Cannon gap in the tailgate!
@@cbayless4294 I would say it’s normal..
@@BrosFOURRSpeed When you shut the tailgate in the vid I thought the tailgate was still open. Watch that part over again. My 3rd gen has gap issues but not like that 4th gen on your vid. Did they fix the A/C drain hose? Does it still drip on the frame? I haven't seen anyone talking about that.
@@cbayless4294 hmm yeah I see that a bit. I think just the angle made it look big. From straight back I person they both looked similar. Next time I’m with one in person I’ll take a closer look.
No clue about any AC issue.
Not worth the money!
Good thing there are plenty of nice 3rd gens available
4th gen is trash all the way around. Body panel gaps are unacceptable. The price is ridiculous. Having a 4 cylinder as the only motor option is government incentive cash grab garbage. Turbo 4 cylinder will never have the longevity of the NA. The new ceo is a clown that is alienating their current customers. I traded in my 17 limited for a 23 4x4 off road. Will never get a turbo anything.
We'll see how the turbos go. Price is a bit much, but really feels pretty similar to the old one. Just a bit nicer honestly
stephenflores is correct. toyota really f*cked up the tacoma. you will find that out at trade in time. even TFL dumped theirs before they got de-valued so badly.
Have to wait for reliability results. I don't like the increase in cost and decrease in standard features!
Yeah I can see that. I guess we'll see how these do over the next few years
4th generation made cheaper than the 3rd generation for 10,000 more for less???????
It really doesn't feel cheaper. It is more comfortable to sit in, has better tech and much more peppy to drive. SO it's a better truck. But yes the price is a ton more for no real reason aside from the awful inflation we've seen over the last 4 years
@@BrosFOURRSpeed To me it’s not worth the money
@@randythompson9312 Yeah I can see that. A lot more money for really just better power
I own and purchased the 2022 SR5 2WD , if I buy another mid size truck, it’ll be the Frontier Pro4X.
Why?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed I wanted a 4WD to begin with, but when I bought the 22 2WD it was during the height of the pandemic and it was a supply chain issue. They said, 2 to 3 month wait for 4WD. At the same time I had just sold my 21 year old 4Runner and needed a vehicle to get to work and back.
The only reason why for the Nissan is because of the NA V6 and a long term reliability , 4x4 for occasionally out landing camping on the local mountains.
Your brother would be better off getting a 4Runner!!!
Why? 4Runner is cool, but he wants another tacoma!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed The last dependable Toyota. Made in Japan, V6, plenty of room.
Manual seats are so fucking played out in 2024 😂
Yeah I wish they were power
The 2024 is BS! I'd rather have the 23 with the V6 engine.
Well they are available ;)
I traded in my 2024 TRD sport for an low mileage 2023 Tacoma . Deal breaker for me was trying to add a trailer brake controller to the 2024 . After having the dealer blow smoke up my ass for a month about they would look after it and add the controller . I got fed up and just found an honest dealer /
You can buy a 2024 Tacoma with the trailer braking system, from the factory. Why didn’t you buy one with that already? That’s how my off-road will come, it’s not dealer installed, it’s factory.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed The trim version with built in brake controler was an extra 8K with tax in Canada . The salesman told me that I could add my own to the 2024 .
@@mikewindsor5957 im sure you could have definitely done that. I didn’t have that on my 3rd gen, I didn’t know of any that had that.
The new tacoma is flat out not selling in my area
How do you know?
@@BrosFOURRSpeedbecause i have a higher chance of seeing a ufo than a 4th gen tacoma on my areas roads. Ill correct myself....either people ARE buying them, but are doing everything they can to stay hidden.... , or, they just aren't selling and can only be seen sitting on dealer lots.
Well they are still new. I've been starting to see quite a few in my area out and about
They are every where here in my area
Keeping it simple with a 2023 SR5 2 wheel drive . Cylystal Silver . Waking up with a smile ear to ear.
To say that ur not worried about reliability shows a lack of understanding of the lifespan of a turbo. The sad reality of any turbo is they just do not last. There undoubtedly will come a day when u will have to replace that turbo, which will cost a very significant amount of money.
There’s a day when an engine has to be replaced as well, so that’s irrelevant..turbos can last just as long.
Toyota overall getinng cheap and cheaper in interior quality over the time…
I would say that, I’m buying the 4th gen!
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Cool trucks!