yea 3rd gen 3.5 is a tuners dream! tuned several of these 3.5s now and they’re bullet proof and make amazing top end power even na. FBO tune on some e85 will land you 350-360hp. Single turbo kits running 7 lbs making almost 500hp on e85. only weak spots the NA pistons if you’re going boost. but they still hold to 500+hp on ethanol. stock block capable of 800hp, stock crank capable of 1000hp. dual fuel system, variable valve timing, everything a tuner needs. might as well call it the new NA 2JZ lol
@@dansherwood9851while seeing a supercharged 4.0 would be nice, I’d rather see a stock vs stock comparison to minimize variables and just see which is better straight off the lot.
@riccoguzman2181 yeah I don't think I can part with my 21 TRD Sport. Had it since new and want to upgrade, but that 4cyl Turbo non sense has me on the fence.
Bro it’s a Toyota it will last long the turbos now a days are way better then ever they aren’t bad there Toyota built and give them a year or two and these tacos will be perfect
@pinkpandamanz542 Look up the new Tundras with engines blowing up. I wouldn't buy a new Tacoma either. Felt gutless to me when i drove one compared to my V6. Good luck if you buy one or wait 2 years to see how they perform.
@@Steven-xj2rfit's not great. I think it looks much better in the off road/pro/trailhunter trims. All the chrome with the chin spoiler is not a good combination
Same. 2007 Colorado broke in half literally due to rusted out chassis and their 2018 needs no go now also. Junky and still feel like my grand fathers from 1996 to drive and ride in.
I guarantee there are more Toyotas with frame replacements than all other brands. They literally recalled them for rotting in half.@@ExpeditionaryRanger
@@s0meguy809 At least they admitted to a problem and made an effort to fix it, Gm and the key switches failing in their cheap cars causing accidents comes to mind.
That was awesome! I could have watched that all day. It was nice to see what all these numbers look like in the real world between these trucks. It's really all about the seat of the pants feel and drivability than anything else. Because 1, 2, or 3 truck lengths in a all out race really amounts to nothing at the end of the day. It's just bragging rights and I much prefer reliability and longevity over that. If anyone really wants to improve their drivability in a 3rd gen Tacoma, 4 or 6 cylinder, just get a Pedal Commander. I installed one in my 22' 4 cylinder Tacoma and it made a world of difference in the enjoyment of driving the truck. It's like night and day. I have no affiliation with Pedal Commander. Just trying to be helpful. A word about the brake test. I'm sure the 10' difference between the 3rd and 4th gens was due mostly to the tires. So that was a nice point to settle. Drum brakes on the back of a pickup really don't make the stopping distance any longer when the bed is empty. I'm sure the ABS had to dial back the braking power to the discs to keep the rear wheels from locking up due to the light weight of the bed. Where the discs will shine is in their fade resistance and stopping power down long grades and especially when loaded or pulling a trailer. And another big plus is they are just a lot easier to change when they are due for replacement. It's definitely a move in the right direction. Thanks for another great test as usual. 👍
I owned a 2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road and got rid of it because I hated the 3.5 engine and auto transmission combo. It was very under powered and even after having it reprogrammed by Toyota several times the transmission never seemed to be in the right gear. The combo also produced terrible gas milage. I am really looking forward to seeing what the turbo hybrid brings to the table.
I get 19 mpg out of my 23 SR5 which is good for a truck. I really don’t have a problem with the auto but the truck is slow. I think they have come a long way since 2017.
The only tacoma that had a real truck motor and is still the best generation is a second gen with the 4.0 faster and stronger than all the generations ....
@@live_the_moment_with_arnol5661 I test drove both the 2017 Taco and 2017 Colorado. The Taco was slow and uncomfortable. The reliability of the Taco is legendary though. I went with the 2017 Colorado as the technology was way ahead of the taco at the time. Let’s hope the new hybrid taco catches up with the Colorado high output.
Judging by how it looks? Is probably only there to pick up a hair more fuel economy but make it as cheap as possible knowing most people will just pull it off. Wouldnt surprise me if removal was key part of the design.
@@russelljacob7955 I'm sure it was. It doesn't look like they put any effort into trying to make it look good. Removal will most likely be the first mod for most Tacoma owners.
@@brycen575 The 3rd Gen and 4th Gen Taco use dual port and direct injection. This is true of the 22 and up Tundra as well. The Chevy is direct injection only and will require someone to use cleaner periodically in the intake to keep the valves clean.
That old SC Taco would have had an even better time if the owner didn't take 2 seconds to get it into 3rd gear. His launch and shift into 2nd was spot on. (Assuming the run they recorded was the time they showed). Very quick little truck!
The 2023 configurator is still up. The cheapest 2023 SR I4 4x4 is $34,960. The cheapest 2023 SR V6 4x4 is $35,820. The cheapest 2024 SR 4x4 at $36,195.
@@scottstarck293 Show me what dealer has them for sell at price!!! That might be what you guys get them for but us normal folks we have to pay over price.!!
If the ranger has the 3.0L it wins hands down. If it's the 2.3l it will probably keep up but not beat the 2.7L Colorado. If it's the 2.7L ranger it will pull ahead of the Colorado on top end. The hybrid Tacoma might keep up with the 2.3L Ranger but I doubt it does much better then the none hybrid tacoma.
Love my 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport (with a tune which really wakes it up), but sometimes I think Toyota is living on past rep in the quality thing. I've owned 2 Toyota pickups (1 bought new) with the legendary 22R, and four Tacoma's starting with a 2004. Every Tacoma I have owned the quality has dropped a tad and you can feel it. My 2004 was by far my favorite and as long as you kept the rust at bay (especially frame) it was so solid. With my current truck, Toyota messed something up with the roof sound deadening and it sounds like a cat on a tin roof in the rain. Dealer wanted to strip out the headliner to fix and I said "forget it, you will mess it up worse".
1997 wins in 4x4 drive at the end with the best numbers with the new magnuson tvs1320 supercharger , 1997 Tacoma @ 15.41, The Colorado 2024 @ 16.13, The 2024 Tacoma @ 16.90, The 2022 Tacoma @ 17.53
It’s a classic case of the tortoise and the hair. When your Chevys, breaking down and leaving you stranded, the Toyota will still be cruising right along. for many years after you’ve replaced your Chevy.
@@JerryRichards-l1dI agree. Every owner says something or the other, whether between generations of the same truck or about other truck makes. I will not trust the internet or what others say.
Gosh, Have I been waiting for a Video Like this! All the Generations of Tacomas Tested, along with a Competitor! I'm not expecting the 3.5L NA V6 to win, but this whole video comes to show how the Tacoma Got it's Reputation of Reliability, and is hoping to carry that into the Next Generation and Thensome! Appreciate the Content as always, TFL! Keep Up the Good Work! Greetings from Braves Country!
Really the only thing that makes me want to get rid of my 3rd Gen Taco is the terrible gearing where the Trans just can't decide what gear it wants to be in on the interstate even with just the slightest incline. Otherwise I really love the thing.
I had a 3rd Gen TRD OR for about 3 yrs and the way the truck felt while driving was very disappointing. At one point I even thought about swapping the engine, since it bothered me so much. You could re-gear your truck and that would help, but that depends on what kind of driving you do. I now have a 2nd GEN 4 cyl 5 spd, that I enjoy driving a LOT more than the 3rd GEN I had. The 2nd GEN I have, is a lot more responsive and a lot more fun to drive. NOTE: I enjoy driving my 2nd GEN more, even when it was bone stock, it's not stock anymore 🙂
@@nbaldo003well it is evidently clear that Toyota under tuned it on the Tacoma. The same motor makes 314hp and 290 Tq in other models. Also revs way easier in Lexus models.
Man I waited for an updated power train for the 4 runner for a long time. This new engine is not what I was hoping for. I expected more out of Toyota considering how long it took for an update
I think 25 years in the future has already long come for Toyota. We've owned an '76 fj40, '95 2nd gen 4runner, '99 SC 3.4 4runner, '05 4.0 4runner, 2nd Gen trd Taco, '07 4.7 gx470. All super cool and super reliable off road vehicles. However it's hard for me to argue for them when my Rivian gets 75mpge and 11sec quarter mile. I think theres no need to wait another 25 years, Toyota.
I am in a bolt ev rental car here in the NYC metro area. I'm seeing level 2 chargers in the 35cent per kWh to 59cent kWh range. I saw a DCFC at 69 cent per kWh. These charger prices are some BS. Evs are going to be impractical and more expensive to run than ICE.
I figured something out yesterday about the new gen frontier tires after nearly being in an accident. The oem fitment are the equivalent of Walmart Michelin. Built to a lower spec. Same for the hankooks on my pro4x. They are absolutely deadly on a wet road. I picked the truck up from dealer I thought oh good it's got at pros on it. I had read a lot of positive reviews when tire shopping for my old frontier. Absolutely the worst tire I've ever seen on a truck for wet conditions. I've seen others mention this for the Michelin as well. The guys here local use GM trucks for work that is all they will fit on them because traction and wear is so good.
Great video!!👍 There is no question that I would choose the new Turbo 4 cyl over the current 3.5 V6. I had a 3.5 V6 for about 3 yrs and it was a disappointment the whole time I had it.
I still think my 21 Taco TRD Pro 6 speed manual ov tuned would take it if I got a decent launch with the 4:30 gears and the 7,250 rpm over rev... Wish they would try a tuned Taco last Gen vs this new gen
@@hardenxx1335Totally Agree Have the TRD exhaust and the Afe intake. Pretty sure once she starts Reving up the last gen would take it. Off the line it's hard to beat a turbo.
I want to see you guys do some work based comparisons. Load an air compressor, some sheets of wood, some 2X4s, some pipes, some nail/screw boxes, some buckets of stuff, and hitch up a small trailer. Then drive 40 miles through traffic and go up a grade then down a grade. Which brakes are the smoothest? Which brakes seemed to overheat. How easy was it to tie down a load of stuff? Which vehicle has the least amount of plastic parts? Did the bed get all scratched up? I am especially curious how well the aluminum clad tail gate holds up to abuse. How easy was it to load and unload the stuff? Which has the shortest turn radius? Which is more comfortable to drive when loaded? Which stops the fastest when loaded? How much can be carried? I am not sure how valuable it is to see which is the fastest in the 1/4 mile for a mid sized pickup truck but it's a hell of a lot of fun to watch it!
We've had Toyota trucks in our family since 1989. The conversation is about reliability not necessarily speed and only time will tell if the turbo motor or components will stand the test of time.
All you have to do is compare the new generation Tundras to the old generation. The new ones are having so many issues. The same will result to the new Tacoma. I have a 30+ year old Toyota Pickup with the 22RE. It is even slower and more underpowered than the Tacoma. But 30+ years later, it is still on the road with 306,000 miles. That is why I buy Toyota.
This is a mistake. That car is ancient and outdated. Reliable sure but it’s slow and clunky. The driving ergos and interior are also awful. I sold mine for a Colorado and it’s so much nicer.
Same hear. Maybe not fast, but my 19’ TRD Pro MT6 gives me confident miles of smiles! … Toyota?! For that price, can ya plz put a cover over that rats nest engine? my OCD is killing me looking at that engine bay.😂 Love these these videos gentlemen 👍
Have the new Tundra and love it. That said, it does not fit in my garage and really thinking about making the switch. Hard to do it though with the torque and huge interior space. We will see. Great video! Keep it up.
@@samzy924cant pass 500hp without turbo. supercharger cant move enough air unless you get some ginormous 3.0 whipple blower and remember this v6 has to turn it. it’s not a 4.6+ liter engine. at that point single turbos your best bet. ask me how i know
OP- stock 4.0 would have ended right between them. just beating the 3.5 but losing to the 2.4. i will say when you tune the 3.5 the 4.0 becomes irrelevant. 3.5s stock is slow but tech on it once tuned puts it leagues ahead of the 4.0. so if you’re gonna mod 3.5s your best bet is
Take one of tacomas best model 2005-2007 in a stress test to 100mph and it’ll smoke the 4 cylinder. I think the new ones are quicker on the take off from 0-60 by a little but the more robust classic V6 is gonna pump a lot more power in a long shot
The 4.0 2nd gen doesn't make much less power but also weighs about 300-400lbs lighter. It would probably be a close race. Plus it's geared better than the 3rd gen auto.
I'm not a gm guy but they killed it with Colorado and canyon... This taco as well as tundra suck especially the dumb hybrid where you lose rear seat storage! It a truck I need space! 🤣🤣🤣😁
Long term? Probably better. Your frontier is basically a gen 3 Tacoma with a better transmission. I’m not sure how reliable the engine is on those tho. But I have seen some high mile examples with frequent oil changes.
@@matthewdrew6268 The frontier and the titan shared the same frame architecture. That's also why you can swap the entire titan front suspension into the Frontier and get a cheap factory mid-travel setup.
I think its possible but not without a lot of work. The Lexus GX460 has the 4.6L in it, which is a destroked 5.7L. Since the GX460 and tacoma are closely related up front, the engine should fit. The 5.7L is a big engine though and is taller than the 4.6L
Whoever is designing the new trucks at Toyota needs to be fired, and quickly. Both the new Tundra and Tacoma are the most butt-ugly trucks to grace American highways in at least 20 years.
The tundra is a good looking truck, the Tacoma is pretty boring imo. I think the Colorado and Canyon both look better. The Tundra is a much better looking truck than the Ram, F series, Silverado. GMC is probably a bit better looking than the tundra
That is what happens when you bring a gun to a knife fight. I am guessing the Ridgeline and Frontier are also faster. The Ridgeline likely will be the reliability king of the class when all is said and done.
@@Steven-xj2rf Because the first thing I want in a truck is a fast 0-60 lol. I would buy a Tesla if I wanted a fast 0-60. 3.1 seconds in a Model 3 performance. No Chevy even comes close to that.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 I am not interested in 0-60, but it will translate to towing. 99% of Tacoma owners don't tow or off-road. The Tacoma is still the poseur truck of choice. Rivian would be awesome but range towing sucks and they have some motor issues that are too common.
@@Steven-xj2rf Who is towing with a mid size in the first place? If I needed to tow, i'd get a Cummins. Tacoma is a reliable daily driver, works every time.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 I see midsized truck as a jack of all trades not just a daily driver. It will haul stuff for house projects one day while and then tow the camper or boat the next. It will be used to help move a friend and haul the buck you shot this fall. It has to fit in the garage and not be huge when trying to park it at the airport. People that buy them just to drive daily would be better off with a Subaru.
I ask this every time you do a brake test. Why don’t you use the solo to test the braking distances? Zero human error for response times or measuring errors.
The iforce Max weighs 600 lbs more than the non-hybrid Tacoma and its only making an extra 48 hp. I bet its only slightly faster. Look at the Tundra iforce vs iforce max reviews and you will see the iforce max is slightly faster 0-60 but by the 1/4 mile the regular iforce is actually reeling it in and has a higher trap speed. Their 1/4 mile times are pretty close. I dont think the Colorado has to worry. The hybrid Tacoma is not picking up 8 tenths of a second.
The Grand Highlander has the exact I-force Maxx drive train the Tacoma will be getting. It's only a few hundred pounds different in weight with AWD than the new Tacoma, and it does 0-60 in 5.5 seconds. It will simply spank that thing
@@dalea4350 Its not exactly the same at all. The 2.4L Hybrid Max in the highlander is transverse and has an electric motor that is a totally separate unit that only drives the rear axle. On the trucks like the Tacoma and Tundra, there is a single electric motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission in a longitudinal configuration. The Grand Highlander also makes 362 hp to the Tacoma's 326. I think the iForce Max will be slightly faster, but not much and wont close the .8 second gap between it and the Colorado. There will be no spanking.
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Thank you for the kind words!
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@@TFLtruck Was this test done with the new truck in sport mode? Just curious. I own one and it's obviously much quicker in sport.
The old Tacoma with the cool factor for the win!
That's a nice truck!
By far, my favorite of them all.
i agree, the last of the v6 and the shape is not trying to be overly aggressive
Even Batman still drives a 2001 Toyota Tacoma!
Oh yes!
I’m so glad this video was made, low-key everybody knows the Tacoma is a dragster and is usually used as such.
No, but the 3rd gen kept tuning companies in business.
yea 3rd gen 3.5 is a tuners dream! tuned several of these 3.5s now and they’re bullet proof and make amazing top end power even na. FBO tune on some e85 will land you 350-360hp. Single turbo kits running 7 lbs making almost 500hp on e85. only weak spots the NA pistons if you’re going boost. but they still hold to 500+hp on ethanol. stock block capable of 800hp, stock crank capable of 1000hp. dual fuel system, variable valve timing, everything a tuner needs. might as well call it the new NA 2JZ lol
See when you put big tires on a taco it becomes a slug on the road
@@nbaldo003350-360whp while NA??
Well…. Majority of Tacoma owners complained about how gutless the 3.5 V6 was. I don’t see what’s wrong with a fun drag race?
Let’s see all 4 Generations of the tacoma race. 4.0 baby!!!
Ha ha love the 4.0 V6
Yes! Please!
With an sc on the 4.0
@@dansherwood9851while seeing a supercharged 4.0 would be nice, I’d rather see a stock vs stock comparison to minimize variables and just see which is better straight off the lot.
@@bennysax1then you’ve seen everything you need to know
The old natural v6 doesn’t get too far behind, I would take that baby since it would last longer than the turbo!
Would love to have put my 2013 4.0 V6 Baja Edition Tacoma in the mix.
bro they racing a 2019 truck against a 2024 my 21 tacoma sport would g a p that 4 cylinder pos
@riccoguzman2181 yeah I don't think I can part with my 21 TRD Sport. Had it since new and want to upgrade, but that 4cyl Turbo non sense has me on the fence.
Bro it’s a Toyota it will last long the turbos now a days are way better then ever they aren’t bad there Toyota built and give them a year or two and these tacos will be perfect
@pinkpandamanz542 Look up the new Tundras with engines blowing up. I wouldn't buy a new Tacoma either. Felt gutless to me when i drove one compared to my V6. Good luck if you buy one or wait 2 years to see how they perform.
That front spoiler on the Tacoma is the most hideous thing I've ever seen lmao
airdam finna be a car snow plow lmao
Thats a factory 4 runner sport hood from that same generation
Colorado Trail Boss looks great
Agreed. That Tacoma in limited trim is hideous.
@@Steven-xj2rfit's not great. I think it looks much better in the off road/pro/trailhunter trims. All the chrome with the chin spoiler is not a good combination
@@Steven-xj2rfno it is NOT, get your eyes checked
That 1st Gen Tacoma looks great!
All mine is missing is that supercharger 😅
indeed it does!
My neighbor has gone through 3 colorados and I’m still on the same Tacoma.
Same. 2007 Colorado broke in half literally due to rusted out chassis and their 2018 needs no go now also. Junky and still feel like my grand fathers from 1996 to drive and ride in.
*inlaw’s Colorado’s.
I guarantee there are more Toyotas with frame replacements than all other brands. They literally recalled them for rotting in half.@@ExpeditionaryRanger
"Bro, just believe me."
@@s0meguy809 At least they admitted to a problem and made an effort to fix it, Gm and the key switches failing in their cheap cars causing accidents comes to mind.
You guys forgot the 2nd gen. I think it's the fastest one out of all the tacomas
exactly… racing a pos truck against a turbo powered truck. my 21 taco sport would gap that 4cyl
@@riccoguzman2181😂 ok.....
Be interesting to see the mpg difference after removing the Taco dozer blade.
People complaining about this video, its just for fun and its not a scientific test. Enjoy it for what it is.
We'll have to see how the iForce MAX does in this test. Would be great to see you guys get the opportunity for that when the time comes next year!
It will be interesting. It likely will cost 3500-4k more..
@@Steven-xj2rfit will probably only be offered on high trim levels. Toyota never seems to the high output engines on base models.
Bet it doesnt do a whole lot better. Its more power and torque but it also weighs 600 lbs more.
Yes, we cannot wait to put the new Tacoma Hybrid (iForce MAX) on this test.
@@DMSparkythey already said it won't be on SR and SR5 trims. It is an option for mid level trims like TRD OR/Sport and Limited.
That old Tacoma puts them to a shame. Old technology rules!
That was awesome! I could have watched that all day. It was nice to see what all these numbers look like in the real world between these trucks. It's really all about the seat of the pants feel and drivability than anything else. Because 1, 2, or 3 truck lengths in a all out race really amounts to nothing at the end of the day. It's just bragging rights and I much prefer reliability and longevity over that. If anyone really wants to improve their drivability in a 3rd gen Tacoma, 4 or 6 cylinder, just get a Pedal Commander. I installed one in my 22' 4 cylinder Tacoma and it made a world of difference in the enjoyment of driving the truck. It's like night and day. I have no affiliation with Pedal Commander. Just trying to be helpful.
A word about the brake test. I'm sure the 10' difference between the 3rd and 4th gens was due mostly to the tires. So that was a nice point to settle. Drum brakes on the back of a pickup really don't make the stopping distance any longer when the bed is empty. I'm sure the ABS had to dial back the braking power to the discs to keep the rear wheels from locking up due to the light weight of the bed. Where the discs will shine is in their fade resistance and stopping power down long grades and especially when loaded or pulling a trailer. And another big plus is they are just a lot easier to change when they are due for replacement. It's definitely a move in the right direction.
Thanks for another great test as usual. 👍
I owned a 2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road and got rid of it because I hated the 3.5 engine and auto transmission combo. It was very under powered and even after having it reprogrammed by Toyota several times the transmission never seemed to be in the right gear. The combo also produced terrible gas milage. I am really looking forward to seeing what the turbo hybrid brings to the table.
The aftermarket tunes really make them come alive, but I also get why people wouldn’t want to do that.
I get 19 mpg out of my 23 SR5 which is good for a truck. I really don’t have a problem with the auto but the truck is slow. I think they have come a long way since 2017.
The only tacoma that had a real truck motor and is still the best generation is a second gen with the 4.0 faster and stronger than all the generations ....
U maybe have the 2.7 i4 because my uncle have the 3.5 v6 and it is really quick, 278hp in the 3.5v6
@@live_the_moment_with_arnol5661
I test drove both the 2017 Taco and 2017 Colorado. The Taco was slow and uncomfortable. The reliability of the Taco is legendary though. I went with the 2017 Colorado as the technology was way ahead of the taco at the time. Let’s hope the new hybrid taco catches up with the Colorado high output.
Imagine how much faster Nathan’s truck would be if he remembered to raise the front dozer blade!!!!
😆
eBay will be flooded with these soon enough.
The funny thing is that the dozer blade is just 9 bolts away from easy removal. 😎👌
Judging by how it looks? Is probably only there to pick up a hair more fuel economy but make it as cheap as possible knowing most people will just pull it off. Wouldnt surprise me if removal was key part of the design.
@@russelljacob7955 I'm sure it was. It doesn't look like they put any effort into trying to make it look good. Removal will most likely be the first mod for most Tacoma owners.
I really wanna see how the new hybrid Tacoma does
Yes!
I would take that older Toyota sr5 with the manual over any of that stuff out there today.
I'll be honest with ya... I got more faith in that OG lasting another 26years then the new motor...
WITHOUT the supercharger you are probably right.
The Colorado really ran laps around the Tacoma at 10k less 😂
But it's a POS that always end up in the junk yard 😊
It doesn’t have port injection like the Taco so it will clog up.
@@brycen575 The 3rd Gen and 4th Gen Taco use dual port and direct injection. This is true of the 22 and up Tundra as well. The Chevy is direct injection only and will require someone to use cleaner periodically in the intake to keep the valves clean.
Its the top powertrain for the model. The tacoma was running a base powertrain
@@emmanuelmedina2740 The Hybrid Tacoma will be faster and more efficient than the Chevy.
That old SC Taco would have had an even better time if the owner didn't take 2 seconds to get it into 3rd gear. His launch and shift into 2nd was spot on. (Assuming the run they recorded was the time they showed). Very quick little truck!
😡🤬 New Toyota is $40k for a SR 4x4! vs $34k v6 4x4 SR! to expensive!
The 2023 configurator is still up.
The cheapest 2023 SR I4 4x4 is $34,960.
The cheapest 2023 SR V6 4x4 is $35,820.
The cheapest 2024 SR 4x4 at $36,195.
It's toyota what do you expect
And right now you can get a discount on the 3rd Gen version. Might be a better truck for some folks.
2 wheel and put a locker in the back axle
@@scottstarck293
Show me what dealer has them for sell at price!!! That might be what you guys get them for but us normal folks we have to pay over price.!!
So we learned a built older truck is better than a over priced new one.
They polish that turd till it shines
Doesn't even need to be built
No he’s rebuilding it now
Colorado at 16.13. New taco 16.90. Old taco 17.53. In a previous video, Ranger and Nissan frontier we’re making times of ranger 16.38. Pro4x 17.62. 😊
The old Taco with the new Magnuson Supercharger is just too cool. Magnusons' newest superchargers are really impressive. Awesome little rig.
I think that the new Ranger VS the new Tacoma hybrid VS the 2.7L HO Colorado would be an interesting race
If the ranger has the 3.0L it wins hands down. If it's the 2.3l it will probably keep up but not beat the 2.7L Colorado. If it's the 2.7L ranger it will pull ahead of the Colorado on top end. The hybrid Tacoma might keep up with the 2.3L Ranger but I doubt it does much better then the none hybrid tacoma.
@@foxwithshades7080 the Ranger with the 2.7EB might have a chance too.
Yes, we agree. We will do this one soon.
Love my 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport (with a tune which really wakes it up), but sometimes I think Toyota is living on past rep in the quality thing. I've owned 2 Toyota pickups (1 bought new) with the legendary 22R, and four Tacoma's starting with a 2004. Every Tacoma I have owned the quality has dropped a tad and you can feel it. My 2004 was by far my favorite and as long as you kept the rust at bay (especially frame) it was so solid. With my current truck, Toyota messed something up with the roof sound deadening and it sounds like a cat on a tin roof in the rain. Dealer wanted to strip out the headliner to fix and I said "forget it, you will mess it up worse".
chillin before i have to work, appreciate the vid
In 26 years if we ALL can be here to see that drag race promised. That would be awesome. I am sure Nathan and Andrey agree.
That would be amazing! We hope to see you back here in 26 years.
Can’t wait to see the durability 🤣
It's probably not good since toyota got caught lying about safety for the past 30 years
@@JoseHernandez-co4mwwait what?!?
Love the old Tacoma. I got a 1st gen 2001 Tacoma. Love it
Batman still drives a 2001 Tacoma......even with all his money.
@@useryggfdcc just hit 105,600 on it
1997 wins in 4x4 drive at the end with the best numbers with the new magnuson tvs1320 supercharger , 1997 Tacoma @ 15.41, The Colorado 2024 @ 16.13, The 2024 Tacoma @ 16.90, The 2022 Tacoma @ 17.53
Best Tacoma in this video is the super charged 90s truck.
The engine bay of that colorado is well organize compare to the tacoma ... even ford Ranger looks like a teenager bedroom
Tacoma is FAR better
@@DaleWilly why are you saying is Far better you dont even know this new engine 😅
I love that immediately he says " wow that's a slow shift" lol. I really hope the new tacoma shifts a lot better than that dinosaur.
Amazing how much faster Andres Colorado was than the new Tacoma.
Far better looking as well
Imagine how much faster it could be if it has cruise control
It’s a classic case of the tortoise and the hair. When your Chevys, breaking down and leaving you stranded, the Toyota will still be cruising right along. for many years after you’ve replaced your Chevy.
@@reggie2334ableremains to be seen with the unproven new turbos with 48% new components
@reggie2334able lol this new Tacoma will be just like the new Tundra, a piece of trash.
700k miles wow. Thats amazing.
4WD is not cheating if you have it. When stoplight racing in light snow it is a must.
Trying to figure out if this is real life
I’ll keep my 23 4x4 off road. That 24 won’t outlast mine.
They will be proven over time.
@@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806 Just let him do his thing. 2014-2015 owners told me my 3rd gen would be trash 150,000 miles ago too.
@@JerryRichards-l1dI agree. Every owner says something or the other, whether between generations of the same truck or about other truck makes. I will not trust the internet or what others say.
It’s still a Toyota it will last for ever stop being so negative and stop talking about what you don’t understand
Andre is just so proud of His Colorado.
Way to go Andre! Chevy Colorado for the win!
That extra .5 seconds has me really wanting to spend 50k to upgrade from my 3rd gen . Wow
Get the over land torque tune and you will love your gen 3 all over again.
Second that , I was about to trade my 3rd gen in for a f150 until I got it tuned .
Gosh, Have I been waiting for a Video Like this!
All the Generations of Tacomas Tested, along with a Competitor!
I'm not expecting the 3.5L NA V6 to win, but this whole video comes to show how the Tacoma Got it's Reputation of Reliability, and is hoping to carry that into the Next Generation and Thensome!
Appreciate the Content as always, TFL! Keep Up the Good Work!
Greetings from Braves Country!
Considering they have been using 4 cylinders in The Toyota Hilux Since the first generation, I'd say it would be pretty reliable.
The 2nd generation Tacoma is missing.
@@SylvainsShipyardyell ,l wonder why?
@@rickeycooley9139Because it would be tied with the 4th gen 😂
Really the only thing that makes me want to get rid of my 3rd Gen Taco is the terrible gearing where the Trans just can't decide what gear it wants to be in on the interstate even with just the slightest incline.
Otherwise I really love the thing.
I love my 3rd Gen manual, really perfects the truck imo.
I had a 3rd Gen TRD OR for about 3 yrs and the way the truck felt while driving was very disappointing.
At one point I even thought about swapping the engine, since it bothered me so much.
You could re-gear your truck and that would help, but that depends on what kind of driving you do.
I now have a 2nd GEN 4 cyl 5 spd, that I enjoy driving a LOT more than the 3rd GEN I had.
The 2nd GEN I have, is a lot more responsive and a lot more fun to drive.
NOTE: I enjoy driving my 2nd GEN more, even when it was bone stock, it's not stock anymore 🙂
TUNE IT PEOPLE
@@abou824same here - had 2017 auto - no like - 23’ manual and love it!
It does that because it’s trying to find the best MPG 👍🏼
I'd still rather have NA engine. Let's see that turbo motor get to 765k miles.
3.5 is a tuners dream too!
umm it WILL, it is made in JAPAN
@@nbaldo003well it is evidently clear that Toyota under tuned it on the Tacoma. The same motor makes 314hp and 290 Tq in other models. Also revs way easier in Lexus models.
Man I waited for an updated power train for the 4 runner for a long time. This new engine is not what I was hoping for. I expected more out of Toyota considering how long it took for an update
I think 25 years in the future has already long come for Toyota. We've owned an '76 fj40, '95 2nd gen 4runner, '99 SC 3.4 4runner, '05 4.0 4runner, 2nd Gen trd Taco, '07 4.7 gx470. All super cool and super reliable off road vehicles. However it's hard for me to argue for them when my Rivian gets 75mpge and 11sec quarter mile. I think theres no need to wait another 25 years, Toyota.
But how many 20k battery packs will it have gone through in 25 years?
I am in a bolt ev rental car here in the NYC metro area. I'm seeing level 2 chargers in the 35cent per kWh to 59cent kWh range. I saw a DCFC at 69 cent per kWh. These charger prices are some BS. Evs are going to be impractical and more expensive to run than ICE.
Not many if the Prius Nimh batteries are any indication.@@DEPOT1DEPOT1
Great video guys, ignore all the trolls. The Colorado and canyons definitely have more speed and the better looks IMO
Hell yeah
Junk
That's a Cadillac motor in the Colorado
@@ibrahimbashir6634The worst vehicle I've ever owned was a 3rd gen Tacoma.
@@lonniewimble5847 it was first in the Silverado then two years later they put it in the Cadillac.
Fuel Efficiency Loop, please. And, please bring along Andre's Colorado to compare it too... 😊😊😊
MPG loop on the new Tacoma is coming in a few days!
Hopefully with and again without that front spoiler? Thanks for doing it. I know gas and time is not cheap.
@@TFLtruck Cool. Thanks!
I have similar Michelin tires on my frontier, and they seem to be oriented to low rolling resistance than traction.
Love the new Frontier
I figured something out yesterday about the new gen frontier tires after nearly being in an accident.
The oem fitment are the equivalent of Walmart Michelin. Built to a lower spec.
Same for the hankooks on my pro4x.
They are absolutely deadly on a wet road.
I picked the truck up from dealer I thought oh good it's got at pros on it.
I had read a lot of positive reviews when tire shopping for my old frontier.
Absolutely the worst tire I've ever seen on a truck for wet conditions.
I've seen others mention this for the Michelin as well. The guys here local use GM trucks for work that is all they will fit on them because traction and wear is so good.
You guys should've included the 4L taco!
Andre showing up without cruise control.
Pickup truck drag race cool… *returns after making a fresh cup of coffee*
…oh wow, just in time to see the results!
Bring a 4.0 Taco next time 💪🏽
Will do.
Yall delusional.
I have 3rd gen with 4.88 gears/OV tune. I wonder how it would compete?
Great video!!👍
There is no question that I would choose the new Turbo 4 cyl over the current 3.5 V6.
I had a 3.5 V6 for about 3 yrs and it was a disappointment the whole time I had it.
Great trucks, but it’s definitely 4-cyl power with V8 fuel economy
You should used the lightest trims with the most powerful engines. Also you should have brought a comparable D41 Frontier
I still think my 21 Taco TRD Pro 6 speed manual ov tuned would take it if I got a decent launch with the 4:30 gears and the 7,250 rpm over rev... Wish they would try a tuned Taco last Gen vs this new gen
Right. I have a 21 manual OR with a K&N intake with a flow master exhaust. Ov tune. I guarantee it would be a different story.
@@hardenxx1335Totally Agree Have the TRD exhaust and the Afe intake. Pretty sure once she starts Reving up the last gen would take it. Off the line it's hard to beat a turbo.
I want to see 2nd gen tacoma vs 4th
3:34 weigh the same??... Merry Christmas Nathan.😂
I want to see you guys do some work based comparisons.
Load an air compressor, some sheets of wood, some 2X4s, some pipes, some nail/screw boxes, some buckets of stuff, and hitch up a small trailer.
Then drive 40 miles through traffic and go up a grade then down a grade.
Which brakes are the smoothest? Which brakes seemed to overheat. How easy was it to tie down a load of stuff? Which vehicle has the least amount of plastic parts? Did the bed get all scratched up? I am especially curious how well the aluminum clad tail gate holds up to abuse.
How easy was it to load and unload the stuff? Which has the shortest turn radius? Which is more comfortable to drive when loaded? Which stops the fastest when loaded? How much can be carried?
I am not sure how valuable it is to see which is the fastest in the 1/4 mile for a mid sized pickup truck but it's a hell of a lot of fun to watch it!
We've had Toyota trucks in our family since 1989. The conversation is about reliability not necessarily speed and only time will tell if the turbo motor or components will stand the test of time.
All you have to do is compare the new generation Tundras to the old generation. The new ones are having so many issues. The same will result to the new Tacoma. I have a 30+ year old Toyota Pickup with the 22RE. It is even slower and more underpowered than the Tacoma. But 30+ years later, it is still on the road with 306,000 miles. That is why I buy Toyota.
Sorry but I will keep my v6 sr5 instead of getting the new overclocked 4cyl.
The want to sell the new 24 Tacoma, I am still buying the v6 next week
I have a ‘17 off road 6 speed for 4 years now been a very reliable truck
This is a mistake. That car is ancient and outdated. Reliable sure but it’s slow and clunky. The driving ergos and interior are also awful. I sold mine for a Colorado and it’s so much nicer.
@@CDX7 Reliability is the only important factor for me. If I wanted fast, i'd get a Tesla.
I drag race every truck before I buy it, because how fast it accelerates is how you know it’s the best.
LOL. I am sure you are on a special list of the local dealerships now. 😃
Love it but I'll stick with my 19. She's all dialed in.
Same hear. Maybe not fast, but my 19’ TRD Pro MT6 gives me confident miles of smiles! … Toyota?! For that price, can ya plz put a cover over that rats nest engine? my OCD is killing me looking at that engine bay.😂 Love these these videos gentlemen 👍
Fear the turbos and hybrids will end Toyota’s long term reliability reputation.
C’mon, my sisters razor scooter could beat the old v6 Tacoma
Waiting to see the 405hp Ranger Raptor vs these pickups. Great video as always.
These Taco trims wouldn’t compete with the Raptor.
Chevy THUNDER!!!
I can't watch N/A Toyotas drag racing turbo Toyotas a mile above sea level
I would have loved to see how the Toyota manual transmission did
I've never drag raced my M/T Tacoma, but that lower rear final drive really makes it feel faster. Still pretty slow tho.
I like the older v6 look. For few small difference the older one is better.
The new truck is absolutely hideous looking. You couldn't pay me to drive that pile.
Agreed! 3rd gen still looks better
Have the new Tundra and love it. That said, it does not fit in my garage and really thinking about making the switch. Hard to do it though with the torque and huge interior space. We will see. Great video! Keep it up.
Even if Andrea had got traction that standard transmission is slower than the automatic.
I like how they purposely drove the 1st gen badly so the new Tacoma shines.
Yeah, these things cost too much these days.
Ok, that was fun watching the 97 toyota! sweet ride!
I love all the new trucks but I’ve been saying it for years. Their all just too expensive for the average person to realistically afford.
I love how the modded 1st gen came in and creamed everything else in the quarter mile lol, John's truck is one spicy Taco.
Would love to see a mid size truck drag race. Frontier, Ranger, Tacoma, Colorado etc.
That super charger made the winder noise
Hmm i wonder how it will do against a 4.0L in the second gen
Supercharged yours I am pretty sure u can get up to 600hp from that engine
@@samzy924 Not even close. I own a supercharged 2015.
@@samzy924cant pass 500hp without turbo. supercharger cant move enough air unless you get some ginormous 3.0 whipple blower and remember this v6 has to turn it. it’s not a 4.6+ liter engine. at that point single turbos your best bet. ask me how i know
OP- stock 4.0 would have ended right between them. just beating the 3.5 but losing to the 2.4. i will say when you tune the 3.5 the 4.0 becomes irrelevant. 3.5s stock is slow but tech on it once tuned puts it leagues ahead of the 4.0. so if you’re gonna mod 3.5s your best bet is
Take one of tacomas best model 2005-2007 in a stress test to 100mph and it’ll smoke the 4 cylinder. I think the new ones are quicker on the take off from 0-60 by a little but the more robust classic V6 is gonna pump a lot more power in a long shot
The 4.0 makes less peak power, tho. What are you even talking about?
The 4.0 2nd gen doesn't make much less power but also weighs about 300-400lbs lighter. It would probably be a close race. Plus it's geared better than the 3rd gen auto.
I'm not a gm guy but they killed it with Colorado and canyon... This taco as well as tundra suck especially the dumb hybrid where you lose rear seat storage! It a truck I need space! 🤣🤣🤣😁
I have the Tundra. I have never not had enough space in it.
The hybrid system is the only way to go if you actually use your truck.
New Tundra and Tacoma are too expensive and underwhelming. I pray Toyota doesn't alter the 4 runner and make it worse. It's perfect the way it is.
I wonder how well my 22 frontier would do against the new tacoma
I’ll be more than happy to stick with my 2022 Frontier.
Long term? Probably better. Your frontier is basically a gen 3 Tacoma with a better transmission. I’m not sure how reliable the engine is on those tho. But I have seen some high mile examples with frequent oil changes.
I’ll stick with my 4.0 taco, this new one is great for hauling lattes from your favorite Starbucks
No surprise the Colorado beat them all. It'll be more reliable too if this generation is like the last generation for both manufacturers
Lol, unlikely that any Chevy will ever be more reliable than any Toyota, ever.
For any reason.
Even if aliens invade Japan.
You must have missed the videos of all the problems it already had and it's brand new
Lol when that truck can be rendered completely useless by a software update? Hardly would consider that reliable.
We'll see how many recalls the new Tacoma has
@warbuzzard7167 the last one was
Would the old tundra 5.7L fit in a Tacoma? That would be interesting to see
The 5.6 titan engine bolts into the frontier. That would be an interesting race
@@matthewdrew6268 The frontier and the titan shared the same frame architecture. That's also why you can swap the entire titan front suspension into the Frontier and get a cheap factory mid-travel setup.
I think its possible but not without a lot of work. The Lexus GX460 has the 4.6L in it, which is a destroked 5.7L. Since the GX460 and tacoma are closely related up front, the engine should fit. The 5.7L is a big engine though and is taller than the 4.6L
Expecting an off road video of new tacoma
Great video as always gents!
Whoever is designing the new trucks at Toyota needs to be fired, and quickly. Both the new Tundra and Tacoma are the most butt-ugly trucks to grace American highways in at least 20 years.
I will wholeheartedly agree. If I could afford a truck, I'd buy the previous generations Toyotas. These new ones are hideous.
The tundra is a good looking truck, the Tacoma is pretty boring imo. I think the Colorado and Canyon both look better. The Tundra is a much better looking truck than the Ram, F series, Silverado. GMC is probably a bit better looking than the tundra
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@@Shakerhood69 😄oh god no. That’s even worse.
Still not enough for me to get out of my third gen. 500.00 overland Taylor tune and Powers pretty much equal
3.5s a tuners dream. anytime you get the itch to sell just mod it and add power. they’re bullet proof.
Chevy 💪🏼
That is what happens when you bring a gun to a knife fight. I am guessing the Ridgeline and Frontier are also faster. The Ridgeline likely will be the reliability king of the class when all is said and done.
@@Steven-xj2rf Because the first thing I want in a truck is a fast 0-60 lol. I would buy a Tesla if I wanted a fast 0-60. 3.1 seconds in a Model 3 performance. No Chevy even comes close to that.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 I am not interested in 0-60, but it will translate to towing. 99% of Tacoma owners don't tow or off-road. The Tacoma is still the poseur truck of choice. Rivian would be awesome but range towing sucks and they have some motor issues that are too common.
@@Steven-xj2rf Who is towing with a mid size in the first place? If I needed to tow, i'd get a Cummins. Tacoma is a reliable daily driver, works every time.
@@westcoastplinkin6559 I see midsized truck as a jack of all trades not just a daily driver. It will haul stuff for house projects one day while and then tow the camper or boat the next. It will be used to help move a friend and haul the buck you shot this fall. It has to fit in the garage and not be huge when trying to park it at the airport. People that buy them just to drive daily would be better off with a Subaru.
I ask this every time you do a brake test. Why don’t you use the solo to test the braking distances? Zero human error for response times or measuring errors.
Wow, i thought the colorado would have been much faster. The I-force Maxx should spank that thing. Can't wait to see that.
The iforce Max weighs 600 lbs more than the non-hybrid Tacoma and its only making an extra 48 hp. I bet its only slightly faster. Look at the Tundra iforce vs iforce max reviews and you will see the iforce max is slightly faster 0-60 but by the 1/4 mile the regular iforce is actually reeling it in and has a higher trap speed. Their 1/4 mile times are pretty close.
I dont think the Colorado has to worry. The hybrid Tacoma is not picking up 8 tenths of a second.
The Grand Highlander has the exact I-force Maxx drive train the Tacoma will be getting. It's only a few hundred pounds different in weight with AWD than the new Tacoma, and it does 0-60 in 5.5 seconds. It will simply spank that thing
@@dalea4350 Its not exactly the same at all. The 2.4L Hybrid Max in the highlander is transverse and has an electric motor that is a totally separate unit that only drives the rear axle.
On the trucks like the Tacoma and Tundra, there is a single electric motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission in a longitudinal configuration.
The Grand Highlander also makes 362 hp to the Tacoma's 326.
I think the iForce Max will be slightly faster, but not much and wont close the .8 second gap between it and the Colorado. There will be no spanking.
1997 beat them all easily when it was in 4x4 because of wheel spinning at 15.4
Great video and merry Christmas all! Hope Toyota used better steel on new tacoma frames