Will the Flywoo extended antenna be available to those of us who already purchased the O3 Explorer? I don't have a 3D printer so I can't make one myself.
Thanks for the tuning, I tried to use them with BF4.4 with the latest ESC update but with GokuF745 stack (old one) and it resulted in controllers instantly saturating causing a flyaway so take a lot of care trying this with 4.4 & older FC. If I manage to get it running I will come back with a CLI dump.
I was experiencing some slight wobbles when I first got the quad. I updated to the latest firmware and it got a little better, but I wasn’t in love with how it flew. I switched the pid profile setting shown here and nothing else. I lost a minute or 2 of flight time on a 660mah battery compared to before (still getting 8+ min cruise time), but it flys soooo much better that it’s worth it.
Thank you for video! I have BF 4.4.2. I tried only PID first. It feels slightly better. Then i flashed ESC and applied filters. And it feels MUCH better. I enjoyed it better picture in googles and easier stabilization. I also instaled braces, but don't know how much it helps. I try fly smoother, but when i set high throttle(70%+), drone shakes. I'll look at logs, may be i'll fix it somehow
For me it’s fine at high throttle, it’s just fighting with the winds is more of the issue, explorer flies great with wind it’s just finding that balance of useable footage in strong winds
Poor poor Ralphie and his quad... was warned that he would take his eye out, but still received it as a Christmas gift anyway.. and sure enough the first time he tried to fly it, he broke his glasses and took his eye out... - An FPV Christmas Story
Check it out guys. Free extended antenna mount for previous explorer o3 orders. Hit them up! flywoo.net/collections/new/products/explorer-lr-o3-long-antenna-tpu-mount
Please make some more flywoo Explorer LR 4 videos in particular modifications as I am building the analog version and would appreciate your tips and suggestions for a long distance build. Thank you
Hi, I have a issue with my explorer 4 03 after Armin motor starts spinning like crazy and I have no control over throttle. Any idea what could be wrong? Thank you Kind regards
Nice Video, im about to get mine at anytime. Think I need to get the antenna mount later If I feel Needed. I was also courious about the FCC hack on googles2 (as im outside the US) I saw some video out there where signal to googles 2 seems to be improved. And access to more channels
Hi, the example of 25 would mean your initial idle speed when armed is at 2500rpm. Try spinning the motors with no props on at betaflight motor tab at 2500rpm. If your motors don’t spin smooth it’s not a good idea. 2500rpm works really good for 5” like 2207 or 2306 motors I found. I found 48 to be good cause it provided enough initial lift and if diving motors won’t feel overload at high rpm and cause desync symptom at a fast drop.
@@PattyFlipz - thank you .. yes indeed, i did some more reading and that value is for larger quads and for the size of the Explorer something around 40 seems better .. so +1 on your results - you got it right. I am still experiencing a lot of prop-wash on mine but i have not copied your tune (yet) as i am trying to understand what each value means first.
thanks for the video. I followed Ivan's setup youtube video to setup the flywoo LR4 but i'd like to revert to the original flywoo setup. How can I get factory tunes?
gonna try your pid tune, i read somewhere on the flywoo facebook page that the original lr4 props are bad and cause alot of propwash, have you tried using a 3 bladed prop instead? havent tried it yet but i ordered 4" 3bladed props from HQ
Some people have done it with good results. Just back up your profiles, then manually type in the numbers I posted and give it a try. Its not going to be a super game changer, but it will help as long as its not super windy. :)
Hi I have my explorer o3 since a few weeks . I fly with a 3000mah liion. I tried all things in the video but my quad still have propwash and shaky picture during just normal flights . I used your pids , change the esc value , even opened the o3 cam , made sure that all acrews are tight on frame. It’s make no differents with stabilisation on or off . Someone had the same issues maybe ? Greets
Hi, because of how light the quad is, there will always be a shaky picture through the goggles, especially with wind and at higher altitude. The stabilization only works for the video that is recorded in the memory card.
I had the same issue here. I even opened the o3 and superglued the lens. Turned out I tightened 1 prop screw too much and it made a very thin crack on the prop screw hole. Almost not noticeble. Changed the prop and voilà.
Sorry never replied this! Try the pids first without the filters, and do a careful hover test line of sight in angle mode in case of fly away and have finger on disarm button. but should be totally fine!
Hi, theres probably some better / cooler chargers out there, but I just use a cheap one on amazon shown here: www.amazon.ca/Charger-Discharger-Balance-Battery-Chargers/dp/B07P3ZRTMY/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=2JVU3T7LR9MQM&keywords=lipo+charger&qid=1680749790&sprefix=lipo+charge%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzQ1Q2OEZIWUVIN0ZaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDY5MTk3M1VCS043OUhNNDlFUCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjU2MzUxMU5KOVVYOUZXMzdUQyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= It can do lihv, lipo etc.
Your board name is like mine without the "PRO" at the end. Did you flashed the 4.4 FLYWOO405 or FLYWOO405PRO version on yours? Thank you for this bro!! FlyWoo doesn't provide the CLI for the not PRO on their website.
Hey yeah I remember that caught me off guard too. But i really can’t remember which one. I just just went back and forth on each one until it worked, but also follow the instructions on the flywoo website by selecting “core only” etc.
thank you so much for that! Question: 1. Why do you use a m2 nylon instead of a metal( (nylon always gets loose) 2. Did you actually finally try BF 4.4? Thank you!
Hi no problem! M2 nylon nuts work for me I just give it a nice finger tight tug with the good ol pliers. Also they are lighter and not prone to adding more possible materials to short the electronics. But yes m2 metal nuts with nylon insert is just fine. I switched over to 4.4 and she flies fine. Pretty much the same just can land itself now which is so cool. Cheers
@@PattyFlipz thank you! do you have any infos about the new GPS Module with the 10 chip? I thought it should find satelites pretty fast, but for me its basically not faster then the old bn220 maybe even slower
Yeah, I am experiencing some issues too. honestly the first time I used it. It was blazing fast. Like by the time I got my goggles on my face it found 8 sats. Now it takes a few minutes to get a lock. Strange.
@@PattyFlipz Hi guys. Hi have EXACT same issue. First try of the GM10 mini was crazy fast fix and 24sats in flight. No I barely get 7-8 sats all the time, mostly 5-6. Veeeery frustrating
Hi, no problems so far as long as you set up correctly but theres many external factors as well and dangers in the flight..(eg: objects in front of your drone) Just make sure you have a good satellite lock count before taking off (7 is good) and don't fly near any radio towers (can mess up your home direction) and be ready to take control if you return home.
Hi, thanks for the video! I just received the same quad yesterday and after setting the modes for the DJI Remote 2, when I arm the quad, the motors do not spin, instead the quad screams continuously waiting for throttle input and when I rise the throttle the screaming stops and the quad is flying. When I land the quad, the motors stop spinning without disarming but they start imidiately after rising the throttle stick. Is this normal? Do I have to do something in betaflight so the motors to start spinning after arming?
@@BiecherBender A continuous ESC loud sound probably to inform that the quad is armed. Did not change anything in BF 4.3.1. It is the stock tunes. Where is this setting? I armed in ANGLE mode and I have the AIRMODE in the same switch with ANGLE - AIR modes, disabled in ANGLE but enabled when I switch to AIR mode.
@@KostasGur there is also a setting called air mode in the configuration tab, which should probably be turned on. This gives stability when you are in the air and turn throttle to 0. I think that this setting also overrides the motor stop setting, so if you have this on, motors should always spin, no matter what you have set for motors stop
@@BiecherBender thanks, yes I just read about airmode's behavior but usually in all my quads I have it disabled and enable it through aux channel in modes. Enabled each time I switch to acro mode but in angle which usually I use inside home where I tested the quad yesterday, just for hovering, airmode is disabled because it produces turbulence when you fly very close to the floor. I will try to arm the quad in acro mode with airmode enable to check the motors later today. Thanks a lot for your help.
I have been flying this Explorer for a while now and every time I go faster than 50 mph (80 km/hr) it starts shaking. I get that it’s not a racing drone or a 5-inch quad etc but I am new to FPV and don’t have another real drone to compare it with - so I wanted to ask you if you think that’s normal and if you had the same. This happens while diving in low throttle or flying fast in lever flight. It just doesn’t like to go this fast. I am using an 850 mAh LiPo or the Explorer 3000 mAh Li Ion with the same results. Thanks 🤘
Hi! Great question. Sounds normal for explorer. Any sort of fast speed, wind will still shake these lightweight sub250g drones, so gyroflow or rocksteady is most likely required to smooth footage if you care about that. Not only is explorer lightweight, it is a dead cat frame which is designed to have no props in view and could effect performance and stability compared to an X. Did you try adding the stabilizers that attach to the arms? Or try my tune in one of my videos, but it might not solve all the issues.
@@PattyFlipz .. i found your video with your tune - looks awesome and i want to try it. In case i mess up, can i save / back up my settings (i am on BF 4.3.1) by going to the Presets tab and saving a preset, or should i go to CLI and save a text file with “diff all” or try the “dump” command? Is one better than the other and will it save my existing PID settings? Have not tried that before - thanks.
@@AZ-FPV Hi, for me personally I prefer going to CLI and typing diff all and saving your stuff before trying my settings. Yes It will save all your existing PID settings.
@@PattyFlipz - PERFECT .. thanks for confirming - i will try it .. since you have so many Explorers, can i ask you how many mAh do you fly when you use the 18650 Explorer Li-Ion 3000 mAh pack? Do you fly for example until you use 2500 mAh or until you are down to say, 3.25 volts per cell ?
@@PattyFlipz - also, UAV Tech recommends a linear (25) throttle setting .. i tried it but didn’t notice any difference (but that’s most likely because i am new to this)
Thanks ! I just tested it this afternoon and it fly well ! It seems that when doing a really steep turn (like at 90°), it "compensates" automaticaly to force it to return "normal" (i'm in acro) ? I does not do it if i'm like at 45°... I don't really know how to express my feeling better than that, but for sure my 5" does not behave like that... i'm gonna do more check tmw but i'm wondering if you understand what i'm talking about ?
Yes I'm not sure why either! Could be either a simple error or could be some magic trick for better efficiency or range (just guessing). Main thing is we do what we learned is correct and if it feels worse, revert back to their default tune I guess.
hi Patty, I was just curious if you have updated to BF 4.4 yet. I tried earlier today but it was a nightmare to set up and lead/migrate the presets from 4.3 (a lot of errors in CLI) so I had to roll back to 4.3 and see if I find how to in upcomming days.
Hi! No I havent tried yet. For me though, what I would do is, I screenshot all my changes on 4.3. Then after flashing 4.4, I manually adjust every parameter to match my screenshots. Takes a few minutes longer but at least no errors!
@@PattyFlipz Good idea, im not sure if it was some issue with cloud build, but I also tried full flash. Couldnt even calibrate accelerometer, ant all settings totally messed. Lucky I saved presets before 😅 I think I will also try add all cli commands that seems good and dont give error
well max newbie, how do u start the motors? with dji controller 2, bindings ok , same BF values as here. Tried any aux combinations, still no action for motors starts :(
Double check your ports tab. Serial RX needs to be switched on for the correct UART (check FC diagram on flywoo website of the plug) Also check make sure in receiver tab you have it set as SBUS. Also check all the firmware versions are up to date on O3, controller and goggles. If all fails please contact Flywoo support.
hello nice video,i tried this one but got motors spinning 100% ( flywoo explorer lr4 03 ) do you know why motor spinning at full event when stick is low.
hello Thnx for the fast reaction, the motors first spin normal and after you throttle it a little bit up de rpm goes to 100% and can't lower it back to 0% , this is with the props on and of i thought maybe it is the angle mode so i tried with the props on and off, tried to reset to 48khz and same problem. @@PattyFlipz
@moesi38 sorry not sure. Did you check to make sure all your escs are configured correctly and same version? All of them need to match in specs. If it spins 100% did it fly away?
@@PattyFlipz yes al got the same firmware, after resetting the flight controller everything is back to normal. (I hold my hand on top of the battery to prevent fly aways). I am on Btf 4.42 is this maybe the problem ?
@@moesi38 Sorry not sure. I pasted my settings onto 4.4.1 successfully. No fly away. Maybe you can try my CLI. Just back up yours first of course: # master set gyro_lpf1_static_hz = 0 set gyro_lpf2_static_hz = 600 set dyn_notch_min_hz = 150 set gyro_lpf1_dyn_min_hz = 0 set gyro_lpf1_dyn_max_hz = 600 set acc_calibration = 9,20,-1,1 set align_mag = CW270FLIP set mag_align_pitch = 1800 set mag_align_yaw = 2700 set mag_hardware = NONE set mag_calibration = 170,195,9 set min_check = 1010 set max_check = 1990 set serialrx_provider = CRSF set dshot_bidir = ON set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT300 set motor_poles = 12 set failsafe_procedure = GPS-RESCUE set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 440 set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 300 set yaw_motors_reversed = ON set small_angle = 180 set gps_sbas_mode = WAAS set gps_auto_baud = ON set gps_set_home_point_once = ON set gps_rescue_return_alt = 50 set gps_rescue_descend_rate = 100 set gps_rescue_throttle_max = 1750 set gps_rescue_throttle_hover = 1550 set gps_rescue_min_sats = 6 set gps_rescue_allow_arming_without_fix = ON set gps_rescue_throttle_d = 15 set gps_rescue_velocity_i = 30 set gps_rescue_velocity_d = 20 set pid_process_denom = 4 set simplified_gyro_filter_multiplier = 120 set osd_warn_bitmask = 24575 set osd_vbat_pos = 2561 set osd_rssi_pos = 129 set osd_link_quality_pos = 2625 set osd_rssi_dbm_pos = 161 set osd_tim_1_pos = 2145 set osd_tim_2_pos = 2113 set osd_flymode_pos = 3530 set osd_throttle_pos = 2593 set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 161 set osd_current_pos = 2551 set osd_mah_drawn_pos = 2497 set osd_craft_name_pos = 2647 set osd_gps_speed_pos = 2520 set osd_gps_lon_pos = 18465 set osd_gps_lat_pos = 18433 set osd_gps_sats_pos = 3085 set osd_home_dir_pos = 2583 set osd_home_dist_pos = 2584 set osd_flight_dist_pos = 3149 set osd_compass_bar_pos = 330 set osd_altitude_pos = 3117 set osd_warnings_pos = 3594 set osd_avg_cell_voltage_pos = 2529 set osd_battery_usage_pos = 35233 set osd_disarmed_pos = 3562 set osd_nheading_pos = 533 set osd_flip_arrow_pos = 65 set osd_core_temp_pos = 2177 set osd_log_status_pos = 97 set osd_efficiency_pos = 231 set osd_stat_bitmask = 4603902 set osd_displayport_device = MSP set vcd_video_system = HD set gyro_1_sensor_align = CW180FLIP set gyro_1_align_pitch = 1800 set gyro_1_align_yaw = 1800 set craft_name = NINJA LR profile 0 # profile 0 set profile_name = Flywoo set vbat_sag_compensation = 100 set iterm_relax_cutoff = 20 set p_pitch = 52 set i_pitch = 63 set d_pitch = 68 set f_pitch = 80 set p_roll = 47 set i_roll = 59 set d_roll = 63 set f_roll = 76 set p_yaw = 50 set i_yaw = 63 set f_yaw = 76 set d_min_roll = 41 set d_min_pitch = 45 set simplified_pids_mode = OFF profile 1 # profile 1 set profile_name = PFlipz set dterm_lpf1_dyn_min_hz = 90 set dterm_lpf1_dyn_max_hz = 180 set dterm_lpf1_static_hz = 90 set dterm_lpf2_static_hz = 180 set vbat_sag_compensation = 100 set anti_gravity_gain = 70 set iterm_relax_cutoff = 20 set yaw_lowpass_hz = 0 set p_pitch = 53 set i_pitch = 95 set d_pitch = 70 set p_roll = 55 set i_roll = 100 set d_roll = 68 set f_roll = 125 set i_yaw = 90 set d_min_roll = 50 set d_min_pitch = 50 set d_max_gain = 45 set dyn_idle_min_rpm = 48 set simplified_pids_mode = OFF set simplified_dterm_filter_multiplier = 120 profile 2 profile 3 # restore original profile selection profile 1 rateprofile 0 # rateprofile 0 set rates_type = BETAFLIGHT set roll_rc_rate = 92 set pitch_rc_rate = 92 set yaw_rc_rate = 92 set roll_srate = 65 set pitch_srate = 65 set yaw_srate = 65
Great work! It's amazing to see what a different some tweaks can make :) My analog Explorer v2 has some light shaking here and there, which is difficult to notice, but strong enough to show up on the SMO4k footage. Stock tune. Do you recon that's wind or could tuning possibly improve that? 🤔 I know it's hard to tell by some text, but if anyone can take an educated guess, it's you :)
Hi! Try checking your ESC's firmware and flashing 96PWM and see if it works for you. If it already has that, try bringing your I gain numbers like my tune. Around 90 ~ 100 numbers and arm stabilizers.
Oh forgot, and just double check your battery placement too for perfect center of gravity. I avoid toilet tank mounting style as well. I found the quad has more trouble during rolls if doing toilet tank mount style (I use roll a lot!)
@@PattyFlipz Hey again, I tried Flashing Bluejay at 96 PWM instead of BLHeli_S and the motors wouldn't spin. Is there something I'm missing? Back to BLHeli_S now and it flies 🤷♂
@@helmutNO My esc already came flashed with Blue jay by Flywoo, so I'm not familiar on how to do it yet. I found this article, perhaps you can read it over and see if anything has been missed? oscarliang.com/bluejay-blheli-s/
Hi Alex, sorry Im not sure. You will have to ask flywoo. Also it will be very hard to fit o3 au in the back trunk. Check the size too because props might strike it.
@@PattyFlipz I have it mounted and it has already flown with the v2 frame with the dji o3 installed and it flies very well, the only thing that would interest me was having the tpu mount that this version has since I have it with a mount that I don't like very much and adjust the camera vibrations
You can check the flywoo support page. Sometimes they have stl files. If not when I have time I will see if I can design a o3 camera mount :) will update if I do
Just trying to understand you correctly. They gave you stl file for the camera? But are you also looking for a mount for the air unit box? If so, You may need to get an adapter to fit to the bottom, such as the aluminum one from newbeedrone where o3 screws into 25x25 holes and you can screw in 20x20 m2 into the aluminum bracket. Check fitment and spacing and dimensions though, its 3mm thick. For my explorer o3 frame it has 25x25 holes and flywoo just used 4mm/5mmish nylon stand offs and longer 1.6 screws right into the o3 unit. no prints for the air unit.
Hi are you using BF4.4? Because I already switched to that. It's safest to screenshot the tune in my video and manually type it into your BF config. Only takes a few minutes. Also remember to do ESC config BlueJay 96khz. Thank you.
I just received my Flywoo Explorer LR 4 and having an issue where the O3 is stuck in low power mode. The voltage on the DJI OSD also reads 0 volts. Seems like there is either a config or wiring issue - super weird figuring this is suppose to be ready to go out of the box. Any ideas on how to fix this? Flywoo support hasn't responded to any of my emails :/
Sometimes I get 0volt readings in the osd as well after a bad crash… just had to disconnect and reconnect power. Just checking as well, Did you register / activate the air unit on the DJI consumer virtual assistant and also did you try arming the quad yet? Arming the quad removes low power mode and enables regular power.
@tylerbell4137 sorry I got it wrong, I think the word is activation, not registering. But yes take a look. And then arm the quad at home or something with no props and check for full o3 power. Hope it works out. 💪
I'm looking at flashing my explorer from 4.3. Did you use the factory CLI settings file for 4.4 and instructions from the flywoo help centre? I think there were some instructions about core only setting etc.
Hi, yes I followed the same instructions (core only) and uploaded their cli dump to make it work. Their tune is revised from the 4.3 version. Although I haven’t tried it, my friend said the new tune is great. Give it a try.
@@PattyFlipz Have you had a chance to try the upgrade to 4.4? I have updated to BF 4.4 using Flywoo's instructions using their CLI, and I'm wondering if your tune here in this video still applies.
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I have communicated this problem with flywoo technology, they will print and make a new version of the 20-30mm extended antenna mount.
That would be amazing!
The subsequent shipments of flywoo will be extended version printouts
Will the Flywoo extended antenna be available to those of us who already purchased the O3 Explorer? I don't have a 3D printer so I can't make one myself.
@@DanielPeckham Ready to use, just need to replace the TPU print. At the same time, we will list replacement parts on the website.
@@flywoofpv I just bought one. Is that going to include this change? Thanks for listening to your users!
Thanks for the tuning, I tried to use them with BF4.4 with the latest ESC update but with GokuF745 stack (old one) and it resulted in controllers instantly saturating causing a flyaway so take a lot of care trying this with 4.4 & older FC. If I manage to get it running I will come back with a CLI dump.
Thanks for testing. Hope there was no damage to your quad. Looking forward to your update.
Also looking forward to it!
Wait so you tried this config and it caused your drone to instantly fly away? Did you ever figure out why?
Thank you! Fantastic tune. Flying much better and battery is lasting longer as well. Running on 4.4.1 no issues.
Whhat?? You guys are too nice. Cheers man!
I was experiencing some slight wobbles when I first got the quad. I updated to the latest firmware and it got a little better, but I wasn’t in love with how it flew. I switched the pid profile setting shown here and nothing else. I lost a minute or 2 of flight time on a 660mah battery compared to before (still getting 8+ min cruise time), but it flys soooo much better that it’s worth it.
Glad to hear man!!! 👍
Cheers! I just implemented all your recommendations, and my 2 year old Explorer flies like its been completely rebuilt!
No way!! Really happy to hear that!
I tried your PID and Rates on my LR4 O3 (same as yours), and enjoyed it. It's light-freestyle friendly too. Thank you.
Hey really glad you tried it and enjoyed it! Cheers!
@MusicMan9018 No way!! Happy to hear it improved!!
The whole FC stack assembly is supposed to be a floating assembly to filter our motor/prop vibrations.
Its supposed to be soft mounted but if its too free floating then that will cause issues.
You are awesome for making this - thank you! I am going to follow this with my BNF dji LR 4 that is on the way.
Love these videos. Thanks for sharing your findings. I better take another look at my Explorer tune!
Thanks bro! Try it out! :D
Thank you for video!
I have BF 4.4.2. I tried only PID first. It feels slightly better.
Then i flashed ESC and applied filters. And it feels MUCH better. I enjoyed it better picture in googles and easier stabilization. I also instaled braces, but don't know how much it helps.
I try fly smoother, but when i set high throttle(70%+), drone shakes. I'll look at logs, may be i'll fix it somehow
Thanks, keep us posted on your findings!
Which version fw did you flashed ? Newest ? 0.20 ?
@@tomasz.dermin i flashed 0.18. The latest in my list was 0.18.1
Is your drone still shakes under higher throttle?
For me it’s fine at high throttle, it’s just fighting with the winds is more of the issue, explorer flies great with wind it’s just finding that balance of useable footage in strong winds
Poor poor Ralphie and his quad... was warned that he would take his eye out, but still received it as a Christmas gift anyway.. and sure enough the first time he tried to fly it, he broke his glasses and took his eye out...
- An FPV Christmas Story
Poor Ralphie! 🤣😅
Beautiful aerodynamic.
It sure is!
Check it out guys. Free extended antenna mount for previous explorer o3 orders. Hit them up! flywoo.net/collections/new/products/explorer-lr-o3-long-antenna-tpu-mount
Just forwarded an email - Shows that they are listening. Great stuff, thank you! :)
Please make some more flywoo Explorer LR 4 videos in particular modifications as I am building the analog version and would appreciate your tips and suggestions for a long distance build. Thank you
Hi, I have a issue with my explorer 4 03 after Armin motor starts spinning like crazy and I have no control over throttle. Any idea what could be wrong?
Thank you
Kind regards
My 4 motors starderd spining 100% while i was wayting for gps fux when it was disarmd needed to pul battery out when it was upside down in the gras
Nice Video, im about to get mine at anytime.
Think I need to get the antenna mount later If I feel Needed.
I was also courious about the FCC hack on googles2 (as im outside the US)
I saw some video out there where signal to googles 2 seems to be improved. And access to more channels
ah yes do the hack and also get the extended antenna mount. Both will get farther range together.
@ 8:39 .. why 48 for Dynamic Idle Value? What would happen if that was set to something like 25 (for a 4-inch quad)? Thanks 👍
Hi, the example of 25 would mean your initial idle speed when armed is at 2500rpm. Try spinning the motors with no props on at betaflight motor tab at 2500rpm. If your motors don’t spin smooth it’s not a good idea. 2500rpm works really good for 5” like 2207 or 2306 motors I found. I found 48 to be good cause it provided enough initial lift and if diving motors won’t feel overload at high rpm and cause desync symptom at a fast drop.
@@PattyFlipz - thank you .. yes indeed, i did some more reading and that value is for larger quads and for the size of the Explorer something around 40 seems better .. so +1 on your results - you got it right. I am still experiencing a lot of prop-wash on mine but i have not copied your tune (yet) as i am trying to understand what each value means first.
Awesome! It’s a lot of fun to just experiment and learn. I’m still learning as well. 👍
linear throttle?!
I have 0.35 expo on my throttle, I feel like the large smooth middle on my throttle gives me good detailed hover control.
How's your ports tab setup? I for some reason can't get my GPS setup with the O3 BNF-DJI.
thanks for the video. I followed Ivan's setup youtube video to setup the flywoo LR4 but i'd like to revert to the original flywoo setup. How can I get factory tunes?
Check the support page on flywoo or email them
gonna try your pid tune, i read somewhere on the flywoo facebook page that the original lr4 props are bad and cause alot of propwash, have you tried using a 3 bladed prop instead? havent tried it yet but i ordered 4" 3bladed props from HQ
No I haven’t tried. Let me know how it goes :)
Did you try by any chance to set "Thrust Linerization" to a value? Or set "thrust_linear=25" in CLI on the Explorer 4LR ?? Thanks for your video.
Hi no I did not try
Anyone know if this will work on the V2? Been hanging in pegboard for months due to major osculation issues. Want this drone to work so badly!
Some people have done it with good results. Just back up your profiles, then manually type in the numbers I posted and give it a try. Its not going to be a super game changer, but it will help as long as its not super windy. :)
Thanks bro, you're very cool! Can you tell us about how to configure the pid controller on betaflight 4.4?
Hey thanks man! Actually I haven't tried yet but when I do I will post something. Thanks for watching!
Hi I have my explorer o3 since a few weeks . I fly with a 3000mah liion. I tried all things in the video but my quad still have propwash and shaky picture during just normal flights . I used your pids , change the esc value , even opened the o3 cam , made sure that all acrews are tight on frame. It’s make no differents with stabilisation on or off . Someone had the same issues maybe ? Greets
Hi, because of how light the quad is, there will always be a shaky picture through the goggles, especially with wind and at higher altitude. The stabilization only works for the video that is recorded in the memory card.
Yes I know that the stabilization don’t work during fly. I still love that quad. Thank you
I had the same issue here. I even opened the o3 and superglued the lens. Turned out I tightened 1 prop screw too much and it made a very thin crack on the prop screw hole. Almost not noticeble. Changed the prop and voilà.
@Guimaraes.Renato thanks for the tip. So true. Any small little thing can throw off the quad
Anyone try this tune with the F7 FC? Curious if you left the frequency at 8khz and dshot600? Same all around tune after?
Sorry never replied this! Try the pids first without the filters, and do a careful hover test line of sight in angle mode in case of fly away and have finger on disarm button. but should be totally fine!
👏👏👏👏👍
Can I have a link to a good charger for the batteries in the description?
Hi, theres probably some better / cooler chargers out there, but I just use a cheap one on amazon shown here: www.amazon.ca/Charger-Discharger-Balance-Battery-Chargers/dp/B07P3ZRTMY/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=2JVU3T7LR9MQM&keywords=lipo+charger&qid=1680749790&sprefix=lipo+charge%2Caps%2C146&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzQ1Q2OEZIWUVIN0ZaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDY5MTk3M1VCS043OUhNNDlFUCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjU2MzUxMU5KOVVYOUZXMzdUQyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
It can do lihv, lipo etc.
@@PattyFlipz Thanks! I am just learning about this whole fpv drone thing and the help is always appreciated.
@@SwordTomato No problem man, any questions just msg anytime!
Your board name is like mine without the "PRO" at the end. Did you flashed the 4.4 FLYWOO405 or FLYWOO405PRO version on yours? Thank you for this bro!! FlyWoo doesn't provide the CLI for the not PRO on their website.
Hey yeah I remember that caught me off guard too. But i really can’t remember which one. I just just went back and forth on each one until it worked, but also follow the instructions on the flywoo website by selecting “core only” etc.
thank you so much for that! Question: 1. Why do you use a m2 nylon instead of a metal( (nylon always gets loose) 2. Did you actually finally try BF 4.4? Thank you!
Hi no problem! M2 nylon nuts work for me I just give it a nice finger tight tug with the good ol pliers. Also they are lighter and not prone to adding more possible materials to short the electronics. But yes m2 metal nuts with nylon insert is just fine. I switched over to 4.4 and she flies fine. Pretty much the same just can land itself now which is so cool. Cheers
@@PattyFlipz thank you! do you have any infos about the new GPS Module with the 10 chip? I thought it should find satelites pretty fast, but for me its basically not faster then the old bn220 maybe even slower
Yeah, I am experiencing some issues too. honestly the first time I used it. It was blazing fast. Like by the time I got my goggles on my face it found 8 sats. Now it takes a few minutes to get a lock. Strange.
@@PattyFlipz Hi guys. Hi have EXACT same issue. First try of the GM10 mini was crazy fast fix and 24sats in flight. No I barely get 7-8 sats all the time, mostly 5-6. Veeeery frustrating
@@oliver51450 yeah totally sucks!!! :(
Are there any problems with returning home?
I heard an opinion that previously Betaflight had some issues with it.
Hi, no problems so far as long as you set up correctly but theres many external factors as well and dangers in the flight..(eg: objects in front of your drone) Just make sure you have a good satellite lock count before taking off (7 is good) and don't fly near any radio towers (can mess up your home direction) and be ready to take control if you return home.
@@PattyFlipz thanks for your answer and great video that helps beginners!
Hi, thanks for the video! I just received the same quad yesterday and after setting the modes for the DJI Remote 2, when I arm the quad, the motors do not spin, instead the quad screams continuously waiting for throttle input and when I rise the throttle the screaming stops and the quad is flying. When I land the quad, the motors stop spinning without disarming but they start imidiately after rising the throttle stick.
Is this normal? Do I have to do something in betaflight so the motors to start spinning after arming?
what do you mean by screaming? Do you have the "motor stop" on in Betaflight? When this is set the motors won't spin when armed
@@BiecherBender A continuous ESC loud sound probably to inform that the quad is armed. Did not change anything in BF 4.3.1. It is the stock tunes. Where is this setting? I armed in ANGLE mode and I have the AIRMODE in the same switch with ANGLE - AIR modes, disabled in ANGLE but enabled when I switch to AIR mode.
@@KostasGur its in the motors tab
@@KostasGur there is also a setting called air mode in the configuration tab, which should probably be turned on. This gives stability when you are in the air and turn throttle to 0. I think that this setting also overrides the motor stop setting, so if you have this on, motors should always spin, no matter what you have set for motors stop
@@BiecherBender thanks, yes I just read about airmode's behavior but usually in all my quads I have it disabled and enable it through aux channel in modes. Enabled each time I switch to acro mode but in angle which usually I use inside home where I tested the quad yesterday, just for hovering, airmode is disabled because it produces turbulence when you fly very close to the floor. I will try to arm the quad in acro mode with airmode enable to check the motors later today. Thanks a lot for your help.
I have been flying this Explorer for a while now and every time I go faster than 50 mph (80 km/hr) it starts shaking. I get that it’s not a racing drone or a 5-inch quad etc but I am new to FPV and don’t have another real drone to compare it with - so I wanted to ask you if you think that’s normal and if you had the same. This happens while diving in low throttle or flying fast in lever flight. It just doesn’t like to go this fast. I am using an 850 mAh LiPo or the Explorer 3000 mAh Li Ion with the same results. Thanks 🤘
Hi! Great question. Sounds normal for explorer. Any sort of fast speed, wind will still shake these lightweight sub250g drones, so gyroflow or rocksteady is most likely required to smooth footage if you care about that. Not only is explorer lightweight, it is a dead cat frame which is designed to have no props in view and could effect performance and stability compared to an X. Did you try adding the stabilizers that attach to the arms? Or try my tune in one of my videos, but it might not solve all the issues.
@@PattyFlipz .. i found your video with your tune - looks awesome and i want to try it. In case i mess up, can i save / back up my settings (i am on BF 4.3.1) by going to the Presets tab and saving a preset, or should i go to CLI and save a text file with “diff all” or try the “dump” command? Is one better than the other and will it save my existing PID settings? Have not tried that before - thanks.
@@AZ-FPV Hi, for me personally I prefer going to CLI and typing diff all and saving your stuff before trying my settings. Yes It will save all your existing PID settings.
@@PattyFlipz - PERFECT .. thanks for confirming - i will try it .. since you have so many Explorers, can i ask you how many mAh do you fly when you use the 18650 Explorer Li-Ion 3000 mAh pack? Do you fly for example until you use 2500 mAh or until you are down to say, 3.25 volts per cell ?
@@PattyFlipz - also, UAV Tech recommends a linear (25) throttle setting .. i tried it but didn’t notice any difference (but that’s most likely because i am new to this)
I’m just fixing up a v1 analog just put a kakute H7 and a flywoo v2 gps with compass
nice!
Thanks ! I just tested it this afternoon and it fly well ! It seems that when doing a really steep turn (like at 90°), it "compensates" automaticaly to force it to return "normal" (i'm in acro) ? I does not do it if i'm like at 45°... I don't really know how to express my feeling better than that, but for sure my 5" does not behave like that... i'm gonna do more check tmw but i'm wondering if you understand what i'm talking about ?
Hi sorry I’m not too sure, but yes just check you are in acro mode and not angle mode.
How big is it? From camera to gps?
The length is about 135mm
@@PattyFlipz one more question, what lenght cable need to be?
@6eatmaker oh which cable? The o3 camera?
@@PattyFlipz yes
@6eatmaker the standard cable that comes with the DJI o3 au is perfect. Sorry I don’t know the exact length but you can find it on the website
why did you change the motor poles to 12 from the default of 14?
I think the number must be the same with the magnets of the motor and the small motors have 12
@@KostasGur flywoo has them at 14... i wonder why.. I"ve just counted mine an they are indeed only 12.
Yes I'm not sure why either! Could be either a simple error or could be some magic trick for better efficiency or range (just guessing). Main thing is we do what we learned is correct and if it feels worse, revert back to their default tune I guess.
@@PattyFlipz who knows, I hope an error and not a magic trick for their tune.. Well I implemented yours and going for my maiden flight tomorrow 😁
@@KostasGur NICE!!! Looking forward to hearing how it went!!
hi Patty, I was just curious if you have updated to BF 4.4 yet.
I tried earlier today but it was a nightmare to set up and lead/migrate the presets from 4.3 (a lot of errors in CLI)
so I had to roll back to 4.3 and see if I find how to in upcomming days.
Hi! No I havent tried yet. For me though, what I would do is, I screenshot all my changes on 4.3. Then after flashing 4.4, I manually adjust every parameter to match my screenshots. Takes a few minutes longer but at least no errors!
@@PattyFlipz Good idea, im not sure if it was some issue with cloud build, but I also tried full flash.
Couldnt even calibrate accelerometer, ant all settings totally messed.
Lucky I saved presets before 😅
I think I will also try add all cli commands that seems good and dont give error
Will try tomorrow I have time, would love to try new GPS fly to home 🙌
and updated angle mode (even if I now manage acro, thx to acro trainer mode)
I had trouble with a 4.4 flash as well with a different quad. gyro was not recognized. Im gonna just leave it for now and try again another day 🤣
@@VegaZ1980 Cool, keep me updated! :D
well max newbie, how do u start the motors? with dji controller 2, bindings ok , same BF values as here. Tried any aux combinations, still no action for motors starts :(
Double check your ports tab. Serial RX needs to be switched on for the correct UART (check FC diagram on flywoo website of the plug) Also check make sure in receiver tab you have it set as SBUS. Also check all the firmware versions are up to date on O3, controller and goggles. If all fails please contact Flywoo support.
hello
nice video,i tried this one but got motors spinning 100% ( flywoo explorer lr4 03 ) do you know why motor spinning at full event when stick is low.
This is motor bench testing? Is it normal at first and then the motors go full spinning? Or is it full spinning 100% throttle right upon arming
hello
Thnx for the fast reaction, the motors first spin normal and after you throttle it a little bit up de rpm goes to 100% and can't lower it back to 0% , this is with the props on and of i thought maybe it is the angle mode so i tried with the props on and off, tried to reset to 48khz and same problem. @@PattyFlipz
@moesi38 sorry not sure. Did you check to make sure all your escs are configured correctly and same version? All of them need to match in specs. If it spins 100% did it fly away?
@@PattyFlipz yes al got the same firmware, after resetting the flight controller everything is back to normal. (I hold my hand on top of the battery to prevent fly aways).
I am on Btf 4.42 is this maybe the problem ?
@@moesi38 Sorry not sure. I pasted my settings onto 4.4.1 successfully. No fly away. Maybe you can try my CLI. Just back up yours first of course:
# master
set gyro_lpf1_static_hz = 0
set gyro_lpf2_static_hz = 600
set dyn_notch_min_hz = 150
set gyro_lpf1_dyn_min_hz = 0
set gyro_lpf1_dyn_max_hz = 600
set acc_calibration = 9,20,-1,1
set align_mag = CW270FLIP
set mag_align_pitch = 1800
set mag_align_yaw = 2700
set mag_hardware = NONE
set mag_calibration = 170,195,9
set min_check = 1010
set max_check = 1990
set serialrx_provider = CRSF
set dshot_bidir = ON
set motor_pwm_protocol = DSHOT300
set motor_poles = 12
set failsafe_procedure = GPS-RESCUE
set vbat_max_cell_voltage = 440
set vbat_warning_cell_voltage = 300
set yaw_motors_reversed = ON
set small_angle = 180
set gps_sbas_mode = WAAS
set gps_auto_baud = ON
set gps_set_home_point_once = ON
set gps_rescue_return_alt = 50
set gps_rescue_descend_rate = 100
set gps_rescue_throttle_max = 1750
set gps_rescue_throttle_hover = 1550
set gps_rescue_min_sats = 6
set gps_rescue_allow_arming_without_fix = ON
set gps_rescue_throttle_d = 15
set gps_rescue_velocity_i = 30
set gps_rescue_velocity_d = 20
set pid_process_denom = 4
set simplified_gyro_filter_multiplier = 120
set osd_warn_bitmask = 24575
set osd_vbat_pos = 2561
set osd_rssi_pos = 129
set osd_link_quality_pos = 2625
set osd_rssi_dbm_pos = 161
set osd_tim_1_pos = 2145
set osd_tim_2_pos = 2113
set osd_flymode_pos = 3530
set osd_throttle_pos = 2593
set osd_vtx_channel_pos = 161
set osd_current_pos = 2551
set osd_mah_drawn_pos = 2497
set osd_craft_name_pos = 2647
set osd_gps_speed_pos = 2520
set osd_gps_lon_pos = 18465
set osd_gps_lat_pos = 18433
set osd_gps_sats_pos = 3085
set osd_home_dir_pos = 2583
set osd_home_dist_pos = 2584
set osd_flight_dist_pos = 3149
set osd_compass_bar_pos = 330
set osd_altitude_pos = 3117
set osd_warnings_pos = 3594
set osd_avg_cell_voltage_pos = 2529
set osd_battery_usage_pos = 35233
set osd_disarmed_pos = 3562
set osd_nheading_pos = 533
set osd_flip_arrow_pos = 65
set osd_core_temp_pos = 2177
set osd_log_status_pos = 97
set osd_efficiency_pos = 231
set osd_stat_bitmask = 4603902
set osd_displayport_device = MSP
set vcd_video_system = HD
set gyro_1_sensor_align = CW180FLIP
set gyro_1_align_pitch = 1800
set gyro_1_align_yaw = 1800
set craft_name = NINJA LR
profile 0
# profile 0
set profile_name = Flywoo
set vbat_sag_compensation = 100
set iterm_relax_cutoff = 20
set p_pitch = 52
set i_pitch = 63
set d_pitch = 68
set f_pitch = 80
set p_roll = 47
set i_roll = 59
set d_roll = 63
set f_roll = 76
set p_yaw = 50
set i_yaw = 63
set f_yaw = 76
set d_min_roll = 41
set d_min_pitch = 45
set simplified_pids_mode = OFF
profile 1
# profile 1
set profile_name = PFlipz
set dterm_lpf1_dyn_min_hz = 90
set dterm_lpf1_dyn_max_hz = 180
set dterm_lpf1_static_hz = 90
set dterm_lpf2_static_hz = 180
set vbat_sag_compensation = 100
set anti_gravity_gain = 70
set iterm_relax_cutoff = 20
set yaw_lowpass_hz = 0
set p_pitch = 53
set i_pitch = 95
set d_pitch = 70
set p_roll = 55
set i_roll = 100
set d_roll = 68
set f_roll = 125
set i_yaw = 90
set d_min_roll = 50
set d_min_pitch = 50
set d_max_gain = 45
set dyn_idle_min_rpm = 48
set simplified_pids_mode = OFF
set simplified_dterm_filter_multiplier = 120
profile 2
profile 3
# restore original profile selection
profile 1
rateprofile 0
# rateprofile 0
set rates_type = BETAFLIGHT
set roll_rc_rate = 92
set pitch_rc_rate = 92
set yaw_rc_rate = 92
set roll_srate = 65
set pitch_srate = 65
set yaw_srate = 65
Great work! It's amazing to see what a different some tweaks can make :) My analog Explorer v2 has some light shaking here and there, which is difficult to notice, but strong enough to show up on the SMO4k footage. Stock tune. Do you recon that's wind or could tuning possibly improve that? 🤔 I know it's hard to tell by some text, but if anyone can take an educated guess, it's you :)
Hi! Try checking your ESC's firmware and flashing 96PWM and see if it works for you. If it already has that, try bringing your I gain numbers like my tune. Around 90 ~ 100 numbers and arm stabilizers.
Oh forgot, and just double check your battery placement too for perfect center of gravity. I avoid toilet tank mounting style as well. I found the quad has more trouble during rolls if doing toilet tank mount style (I use roll a lot!)
@@PattyFlipz Thank you so much for the tips! I will check it out and see if it makes a difference :) Have a good weekend!
@@PattyFlipz Hey again, I tried Flashing Bluejay at 96 PWM instead of BLHeli_S and the motors wouldn't spin. Is there something I'm missing? Back to BLHeli_S now and it flies 🤷♂
@@helmutNO My esc already came flashed with Blue jay by Flywoo, so I'm not familiar on how to do it yet. I found this article, perhaps you can read it over and see if anything has been missed? oscarliang.com/bluejay-blheli-s/
Hello, I have a flywoo version v2 and I would like to get the stl file of the dji o3 mount for the camera, would you know where I can get it?
Thanks!
Hi Alex, sorry Im not sure. You will have to ask flywoo. Also it will be very hard to fit o3 au in the back trunk. Check the size too because props might strike it.
@@PattyFlipz I have it mounted and it has already flown with the v2 frame with the dji o3 installed and it flies very well, the only thing that would interest me was having the tpu mount that this version has since I have it with a mount that I don't like very much and adjust the camera vibrations
You can check the flywoo support page. Sometimes they have stl files. If not when I have time I will see if I can design a o3 camera mount :) will update if I do
@@PattyFlipz hello. I talked to the flywoo support and they gave me the link of the stl, but the mount for the O3 is not there.
Just trying to understand you correctly. They gave you stl file for the camera? But are you also looking for a mount for the air unit box? If so, You may need to get an adapter to fit to the bottom, such as the aluminum one from newbeedrone where o3 screws into 25x25 holes and you can screw in 20x20 m2 into the aluminum bracket. Check fitment and spacing and dimensions though, its 3mm thick. For my explorer o3 frame it has 25x25 holes and flywoo just used 4mm/5mmish nylon stand offs and longer 1.6 screws right into the o3 unit. no prints for the air unit.
Hi, can you send me cli dump or btfl params file link? Thank you.
Hi are you using BF4.4? Because I already switched to that. It's safest to screenshot the tune in my video and manually type it into your BF config. Only takes a few minutes. Also remember to do ESC config BlueJay 96khz. Thank you.
I just received my Flywoo Explorer LR 4 and having an issue where the O3 is stuck in low power mode. The voltage on the DJI OSD also reads 0 volts. Seems like there is either a config or wiring issue - super weird figuring this is suppose to be ready to go out of the box.
Any ideas on how to fix this? Flywoo support hasn't responded to any of my emails :/
Sometimes I get 0volt readings in the osd as well after a bad crash… just had to disconnect and reconnect power. Just checking as well, Did you register / activate the air unit on the DJI consumer virtual assistant and also did you try arming the quad yet? Arming the quad removes low power mode and enables regular power.
If those don’t work try reconnecting all the cables. Maybe a loose pin in the tx/rx
@@PattyFlipz hmm I did connect it to the DJI assistant to check for updates, but don't remember registering it. I'll look into that now!
@tylerbell4137 sorry I got it wrong, I think the word is activation, not registering. But yes take a look. And then arm the quad at home or something with no props and check for full o3 power. Hope it works out. 💪
@@PattyFlipz just tried, but I’m not asked to register / activate it 🤔 I think my next step is to take it apart to check the wiring.
Failed reading ESC 4
In bluejay esc configurator? Just make sure all the esc firmware match.
I'm looking at flashing my explorer from 4.3. Did you use the factory CLI settings file for 4.4 and instructions from the flywoo help centre? I think there were some instructions about core only setting etc.
Hi, yes I followed the same instructions (core only) and uploaded their cli dump to make it work. Their tune is revised from the 4.3 version. Although I haven’t tried it, my friend said the new tune is great. Give it a try.
@@PattyFlipz Have you had a chance to try the upgrade to 4.4? I have updated to BF 4.4 using Flywoo's instructions using their CLI, and I'm wondering if your tune here in this video still applies.
@DanielPeckham hi I did switch over actually and it works fine so far.