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$4,000 replacement gears vs. $12,000 full transmission swap. Does more expensive mean more better?
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*We need a new Ford Ranger Money Pit video NOW!!!*
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They already posted a video, GIVE THEM A BREAK
Let him cook 👆🏽
@@GardenGuy1943we need more!!!
@@Toyotaguy23-qq3odget a job
Its a breath of fresh air seeing Zach and Justin being the hosts for this High vs Low episode, keep up the good work!
Edit : Mom and Dad I'm Famous!
Wopw
Real weird bc these weren't their cars the whole season lol
feels philosophical in some way yk?
Zach is the first host that they got by auditions (iirc), and Justin is the most recent one, very cool imo
never thought about it like that good point@@tiraderodeTori_
This is a weird conversation
The smartest play, just get an STI from the get go 😂😂 but it’s fun to watch
It would probably be less interesting since they wouldn't be constantly breaking them.
Spend extra 10-15k vs what in the real world is a 5k trans swap
@@SharamanONorgannon there are gd stis for 13k around me in great condition no rust. gd wrxs are usually 7-8k. There are 2 05 built motor rotated kit stis for 18 and 19 near me right now lol. maybe if youre in cali
@@402car_kid4 yeah in MN you can get late model STI Subies for a reasonable price I bet compared to cali😂😂
@@calebrivera8550MN cars are actually pretty cheap, it's not a subi but I scored a pop up headlight 3000gt vr4 for $1400. Just had some surface rust on the roof in a small spot. You can definitely get a STI for cheap up here!
Shoutout to whoever sold the Donut team a 6 spd swap for 12k. Those are usually 5k-7.5k lol
dude for real. we have yards that sell everything for 5-6k over in my corner of the country
I think it’s the transmission and the rest of the components that cost a total of 12k
@Mozuf I'm aware my man. up here in New England, I have seen full drivelines with the 5x114.3 knuckles and brembos for 9k. the trans, diff, axels module ect for 5k is pretty standard
@@MozufWhole swaps with diff and axles are 6k
They’re in California so makes sense
Pretty sure they could have got a sequential gearbox for 12k.
My thoughts exactly, 12k for a used sti 6 speed is wild 💀
@@zamkame39 I think you can buy a whole STI for around 12k depending on year and miles
@@zamkame39 Even for an STi swap.. You can do that for 6k all day, 8k at worst.
More like 18k just for the parts to make a PPG sequential STI trans.
12k for a sti swap is disgusting,
I see full swaps going for 3-5k on the east coast
Low car's transmission looked like an absolute nightmare to assemble
They're not bad transmissions to work on they just didn't do enough research on parts before purchasing
Hi car should be called peach-a-roo like Pikachu but a peach color Subaru lol
Welcome to the world of rebuilding transmissions... would you like to see the inside of an automatic transmission my good sir? Because if that tiny 5 speed gearbox blew your mind I know a few that will implode your mind.
@@Partnerthedog nah
@@Heroo01 👍 sit on it while you follow me around replying to 4 different comments I made like a creep
you know what could be really funny now that the cars have whole new transmissions? both engines blowing up AGAIN lol
I love the cope every time they make a new video from the suby owners.
"Its reliable guys! You just have the change the oil pan and uograde the transmission and do a motor swap and also pray to the gods every 3rd friday of the month"
@@TheLongDonYou have to remember that the WRX came out super affordable and with an engine layout few people understand. If you want to make power, go buy a mustang. If you want a racing subaru, get an STI. But the WRX is simply meant to be a fun daily, not a track car
@@calebflora9304 Right, but that's not what it's used for. If you know your market is going to push the shit out of the car, wouldn't you at the very least not have a transmission that shits itself every 20k miles of slightly hard driving? Not saying it's a bad car, just bad for what it's target audience is
@@TheLongDon You can say that for any and all cars, cars from the factory are not made for hooning, none of them are and they all have weak points that need to be fixed. You maybe too young for this but we where blowing t5s in foxbodies and camaros with stock motors and sticky tires. There's a reason the 3rd gen firebird and camaro didn't come with a manual on the 350. Those cars would also twist them selves in half if you launched too many times, the rear end of the camaro was a constant risk of grenading, the 302 in the foxbody would also crack it's block if pushed past 500hp. That's just 2 popular American equivalent. It's even more embarrassing considering both mustangs and Camaros are sports cars from the factory.
Same thing with the subie. An Impreza is a economy car, there's a factory performance version sure, but the actual base Impreza is for getting you to work sounding good and looking cool not for putting it down and especially not as much as these guys did. Like the foxbody mustang, sure there was a SVT Cobra and Cobra R, but your bonestock foxbody was a family car.
Hot rodding is about making cars do what they're not made to do, and that involves a lot of work. I have a 4age 20v swapped E100 corrola with a AWD transmission imported from japan for the E104 corrola wagon. had to cut the floor and everything reform it. Engine revs to 11 grand, and makes almost 350hp all motor. You wouldn't believe how much work everything needed to not explode or maybe you would.
@calebflora9304 but still 5 speeds were made of glass. So we're their headgaskets
Donut: "these wrxs just blow up!"
Also Donut: "we are going to swap out 2 gears and shave them down on a bench grinder so they will fit in with the OEM gears without binding"
I used to think they knew what they’re doing. Now I kinda just see a bunch of charismatic dudes that don’t really know what they’re doing.
@@caiobortoletto4363 They're clueless but fun to watch
Kooks
@@caiobortoletto4363you should start a TH-cam channel about working on cars and see how long you last
@@vinnyb2947 you're a weirdo
We need "Grindin' Gears & Sheddin' Tears" on a hoodie or something
Someone @donut needs to pin this lmao.
Please stop recommending more garbage merch for them to promote.
@4EverSavvy they're a t-shirt company. What do you want?
@@nobodynothing6551 less garbage merch that they shove in our face multiple times it feels like in every video. It’s pathetic from them at this point
Hi car should be called peach-a-roo like Pikachu but a peach color Subaru lol
Y'all let Jimmy out of middle school to make a WD-40 plug, nice.
I hate him
Yeah, was decent! Fun ad - well done.
Wow you sound miserable to be around. @@GardenGuy1943
@@GardenGuy1943you must be super cool to hate someone you don't know, prob make a lot of friends at parties you get invited to lol
@@GardenGuy1943 Ok boomer
Hawkeye WRXs (06-07) have an LSD in the rear, it's a Viscous LSD, but it's way better than an open diff.
When I owned an 06 wagon I looked into an STi drivetrain swap, it was going to run me 4-6k in parts which included brembos and associated brake hardware; in addition to those costs I would have had to pay for a controller, new clutch & flywheel, fluids, pads & rotors & 5x114.3 wheels. I also priced out a 5x100 setup with brembos, which would have saved me the cost of wheels; I can't fathom a used swap that costs 12k that doesn't include brembos and a set of wheels.
It would make sense 15 years ago and if it were rebuilt but sti transmissions don't cost 6k at a junkyard anymore
@@Dr.Spatula have you logged onto facebook market place
@@CoochieKissKing Entire swaps are $4500 all over marketplace. Just stop.
@@CoochieKissKing Great idea! Just did $3k for '16 with 57k miles at local salvage yards
Well they are in California, everything is more expensive there lol
Lmao everyone's reaction to the professional trans assembler grinding down the brand new $2500 gears 😂 You already know everyone was thinking 'well shoot, it wasn't my money!' haha. As long as the boss approves 👌
I mean honestly, the Lo option isn't that low, because you get 2 gears for $4,000.00. The Hi option gives you *6* new gears for $12,000.00, that's $2,000.00 per gear for both, but you get all those other new parts, too!
yeah they kinda screwed themselves over there. they could’ve just gotten a used trans from a scrap yard for $4k (or even less)
@misseselise3864 then they still had to buy the special gears to put in. Tgey said they already destroyed a few gearboxes so those standard ones were no option
@TheAdatto they destroyed the 5 speed gearbox so instead of wasting money on that gearbox they should have done the sti 6 speed swap right from the beginning and 12k for a used 6 speed I way too much , brand new 2020 6 speeds go for 14k
that should have cost 6k though unless shipping was another 6k
PPG gears are like 5k for a full set, I bought for a little lower cause it was the close out deal. And an STI trans is only 3-4k this video is all over hte place
for 4k i thought low car was going to have a 6 speed sti swap, and high car would have a sequential.
Exactly the setup I thought they’d run
no joke... kind of a huge let down on that part
They both have no idea they could just get a 2015+ sti trans and could hold any power level
I only paid 6500 for the sequential I ran in my blobeye sti. I can't watch this show any more nothing but money over brains. It's just a tax scam at this point.
Maybe it's time for them to actually take down THIS video and make the proper transmission swap
whoever edited this one did a fantastic job, looks great, super clean graphics and vibrant colors
This was very cool. Zach was the reason I started watching Donut, and Justin is such a chill guy - two of the best hosts on this channel. keep up the good work lads.
I love seeing Zach and Justin host this episode, they bring such a great dynamic to the show. Keep up the awesome work!
How do you have 1.2 million subscribers with one video uploaded a week ago.
Bro your every where 4 vids in a row
@@16BitOGit’s a hacked channel
@@16BitOGjust comment on everything for a while
@@16BitOG the account was probably bottled or bought
When did WD40 require an ad 😂
Just in case you didn’t know about it 😂
i was confused asf😭
@@DrFearCo lmao 🤣
Thought Hank hill covered the WD40 ad budget
Probably someone in marketing is a fan and said "how about we sponsor some youtubers instead of a couple signs?"
I always forget that Justin is an SVX boi until he drops the little "I've done something like this on my own car" line, then I go 'oh, right, a fellow H6 fan.'
“Grinding gears, shedding tears” new donut merch just dropped
18:01 grinding hears and shedding tears, truer words were never spoken. Tshirt material right there 😂
Yeah, donut should put this in their new shirt 😂
why not chuck the gear into a lathe and cut it down so it's balanced instead of eyeballing it.
expert was there to do it lol@@martin-vv9lf
@@martin-vv9lfseems as thought they have no lathe.
When I was a kid I remember my pops shouting out the window of our house "Grind me a pound while you're at it." when my mom was driving her first manual car outta the driveway in the morning.
You should have done a used full STI swap vs a straight cut sequential. The STI swap can be found for not much more than you spent on the gears.
Agreed, makes way more sense.
You're forgetting that they never know what they're doing when they modify this platform.
this is hi-low not dumb-dumber @@collinstrickland7565
But won’t that mean new driveshaft, new rear diff, axles, hubs, brakes…?
@@Fabulousprofound168 a full 6 spd swap is 4-5k
Justin’s one of my favorite dude he has always seemed down to Earth. Reminds me of a guy at my work one of the nicest dudes
For what is worth, DCCD doesn't change the torque split sent to each axle (50F/50R, 0F/100R, 100F/0R, it's always 35F/65R), it just controls the amount of slip in the center differential. Like a limited slip rear with a 60% lock up, except this is variable and in the center.
i feel like i'm on NASIOC 15 yrs ago with this one, thanks for the nostalgia
haha right with you man.
Expect they don’t know jack about good parts. The sti had glass gears.
This right here is so true.
@@EmptiedPocketsI thought the STi was the buletproof one
You can get full STI 6 speed swaps out of NJ with 40k miles for 5k. Idk where you got your 6 speed swap but it’s probably an expensive west coast thing
They are like that meme of DiCaprio throwing money
Why are the prices so over exaggerated
PMP has 6 speeds for 2500... idk where theyre spending the other 9k
I get that the other parts could have been brand new and paid a premium for but it just confuses me how they got that high
I paid $3k for the 07 STI swap in my base 16 WRX.
A+ to the editors on this episode. this is the best content from Donut i have seen in 3 years.
Yes, this is like the Donut of old.
I remember donut back in 2015 and been addicted since. I noticed that one dude who continues to ask james for an up to speed on his dad...weird, but it would be cool to see a background on the guys, and how they got into cars and on to the channel.
They probably use the doors to get into cars.
Yeah the dude just wants to annoy James
I think his dad died from a heart attack, may he rest in piece
People are ridiculous. Thanks for the response guys, rest in peace 🙏
@@user-jy6ol4xp3mit's a reference to the non stop dad jokes James used to make on up to speed.
There is no way it would annoy him seeing as he probably made over 100 jokes about his own dad on that show.
@@Pinko-Diamond ohh shoot mb
17:44 awkward high five/fist bump scenario 😂😂😂😂
lebron would never
Didn't Wataru and Keisuke, do this exact handshake in Initial D stage 5.
After Takumi drifted in front of the Imposter project D...yeah it was awkward then too 😂
When this happens, it's appropriate to exclaim "Stick shift!" and roll through the gears.
Justin's giggle is so infectious and we got tons of it in todays video.
Haha yeah, random thought Hi car should be called peach-a-roo like Pikachu but a peach color Subaru lol
@@Partnerthedog lmfao bro really said "haha yeah, anyways please like my comment i have a shitty idea and want more people to see it"
@@Heroo01 aw did your little feelings get hurt, does daddy touch you the wrong way
@@Partnerthedog bro chill with this shit idea
you need a blastplate on the 5speed. the torque twist the gearboc and since its split down the middle it separate and it looses traction and starts to chew gears
Guys you got to do just an episode with that transmission specialist maybe go see if you can a work shop tour, the dude was super friendly and was a great teacher.
Bro, Justin and Zach both projecting such absurd levels of likeability. Some of my fav donut guys.
Lol new series: High and Higher
Hi car should be called peach-a-roo like Pikachu but a peach color Subaru lol
@@Partnerthedog why are you spamming this bro it really is not good or witty
What does the highest car look like?
@@TitanianBlueFrog-Ribit the 19th engine on the same Subaru's
I love everything about these series you guys do. I truly believe learning how to do things the “low car” way make you understand the car much more thoroughly and makes you a better mechanic and fabricator … the struggles are part of hot rodding! Love you guys at Donut
Appreciate the dedication and detail you guys have put into this. The difference in performance between the high and the low car is quite clear.
Ya know what really grinds my gears?... Watching gears get ground.
Hi car should be called peach-a-roo like Pikachu but a peach color Subaru lol
I’m sure they didn’t grind through the case-hardening….🙄
Random as comment@@Partnerthedog
I was abhorred when I saw that dude grinding at the gear with a wheel grinder…..
19:02 I guess Zach missed that NASCAR switched to single-center nuts with the 18" wheels.
Such a satisfying scene with both cars in the canyon. They really compliment each other, almost like little brother trying to outdo big brother with less money but at the end of the day, just bros in Subarus. 🤜🤛
Justin was such a good hire, dude is awesome. Zach is awesome too of course.
$12,000 for a transmission is insane
yur poopshoots full again@@samuelgarrod8327
Not really, a very costly and complex stock part, if you want quality aftermarket be prepared. Abnormally expensive to manufacture.
That price wasn’t for just the transmission…🤔
Rich people shit.
Thats with axles, rear diff, t case and flywheel
You got to love a hi/low that keeps begging for parts so you can keep going on and on and on 😂 😅
That's why they break everything
Awesome video. Glad it's doing numbers!! I was waiting for this.
So happy after chatting with both these boys the other day at the Petersen, both real gentlemen, lovely blokes and so easy to chat cars with. I’d just like an acknowledgment from Justin that Tokyo is indeed further away from LA than London! Had to check that after
Lmao at “Poverty Cubes” 😂🤣
So sick. Watching Justin work on assembling the transmission made my hands sweat. I have a huge amount of respect for the wrench monkeys that do that day in and day out, every transmission on every car, getting us all back on the road after taking a heavy little check off of our hands lol.
its not bad once you do it a few times lmao. you act like it's slave labor and completely impossible to learn
I'm in school for watchmaking and you don't even have to think about it after you've done 10 or so. everything's so familiar it just falls into place effortlessly
I love how you guys always explain stuff for dummies like myself. I don’t know SQUAT about cars but I know what cars I like
Love the videos keep ‘em up been watching for a while now and finally old enough for trade school so hopefully be working on cars like this too
Best Ranger mods for cheap prerunner things: bigger cams, 8.8 rear end swap, 33s, 3" lift, shift kit for the 4R70, cheap boost
Could you do a 'monkey pit' thing where you rent a gorilla or something and teach it to drive a race car
fucking love this
even better, train a monkey to be part of your pit crew. would make more sense with "monkey pit"
I always forget how much of a treat Justin and Jobe are!!!! I love donut
Glad we have a follow up to this saga. Jobe and Justin are pretty good. Great follow up vid. Wanna see some track vids now and see how they hold up.
Just saw these cars at the Donut meet and wondered if they had to be towed. I guess they made there under their own power, Sick!
7:57 so nice of them to say hi to me
Be advised the dog rings will need maintenance every so often to keep the engagement snappy. The sharp edges wear over time.
It's pretty obvious that just getting an STI is better than spending so much more to upgrade the WRX
Im surprised at 6 speed swap cost. Mine was 6k. Including the new flywheel and clutch setup
They got robbed, again you can see they have NO idea what they’re doing w the Subaru platforms
@@Augie.. they seem to have no idea period on any platform. Forgot to mention. 6k also had a dccd pro spiider. Retail 600 and installed by shop. Not even myself at the time.
Not everyone gets deals for their wheels
@@CatPerson-LoFi not a deal. Going avg rate. That is avg. Across the board. For their money they could have bought a completely new drive train and brembo brakes for an sti from subaru direct.
@@DustinDIYlol ofc they got scammed they’re famous, who wouldn’t try to scam them, demand was high, they sure know enough
5:43 first add I haven’t skipped well done 👍🏻
first addition you haven't skipped?
AD is short for ADvertisement. ADD is short for ADDition
The impact torque spec is how you know this man is a professional
I love that you guys make quality videos fit enough for television
It's crazy how far Justin has come as a media personality 👀👌🏻 keep it up man! 🤙🏼🤙🏼
This swap is barely $12K even if you buy all new OEM parts...
item - subaru part# - price
------------------------------------------------------
Rear Diff - 27011AB320 - $2K
Rear axle x2 - 28421FG022 - $800
Transmission - 32000AK370 - $7K
drive shaft - 27111FG051 - $700
WRX front axles can be reused.
Flywheel - 12310AA410 - $260
clutch - 30100AA920 - $300
pressure plate - 30210AA670 - $240
Shift Linkage - C1010FG600 - $350
iWire DCCD $600
Total: 12,250
Love seeing Justin on here doing some cool stuff! I rebuilt my 6 speed transmission in my 08 Si, shid definitely gets stressful. I tried swapping the LSD out to put in my project car, but found that you need to do more then just dropping in the open diff. But now that I've done it. (Took 3 times to figure out what I messed up on) I am a lot more confident for when I do it again. I definitely recommend using gloves though, saves your hands a lot of cleanup. Next project, taking my RSX-S trans and putting a LSD in it for my 98LX K-Swap.
Honestly, Donut has no damn clue what to do with a Subaru…
You can tell they don’t have a Subie bro in the crew
A transmission costing that much is insane
Nothing like a classic fart noise with some reverb thrown on there. 😂 9:05
Love these series! Cheers from British Columbia, Canada 🇨🇦
This makes me have a greater appreciation for the team that works behind the scenes most of the time or just the team that is behind donut media they’re awesome
OMG!
I did the same STI swap on my modified 06 WRX about a decade ago … everything cost me about $4,000.
All of the work I did on my car’s drivetrain - new STI block c/w forged pistons, work on the WRX heads, modified intake, new turbo, and modified headers and exhaust was less than they paid for the transmission swap.
And, I did it all by myself with the car on jack stands.
well after lockdowns everything is like 10 times more expensive :v
IM SO HAPPY JAMES ISNT ONE OF THE HOSTS ANYMORE, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
Nice builds. Ron Martin is the best in the busy! He’s not only knowledgeable in transmissions but also in differentials, transfer cases and much much more. He’s taught me a lot and hopefully he can help me regear my truck lol. Good job buddy!
Great video. I had never seen small gears like that. You guys did great.
Wd 40 does ads?! Jimmy killed it. 👍
I would love to see a video of the biggest glow ups (like the new prius) and blowups (I'm looking at you 2024 wrx) I think it would be really interesting!
And the Accord
I second this great idea 🎉
For me, Jimmy aced this sponsorship. It's probably 1 in 100 ads that I whatched throughout. Great job!
Long detailed format is really cool 👌🏼💪🏼
You guys need a cheap transmission jack especially having multiple lifts.
Dollar Tree Transmission would be dope
Amazing videos fellas, please keep this stuff coming.
I did a rebuild too once and i know that feeling when everything works 😎
I just realized Zach looks like Jayce from “try not to eat” lol😂
I really appreciate that you explain the technical details as text, and don't bore the more experienced viewers with something like "what an open diff is". The car people will know what that is, and I appreciate that I didn't need to hear about what an open diff is again 😂 thanks guys. Your videos always raise the bar for other car TH-cam channels.
The closure we needed ❤️
I just wanna say that I really like and appreciate the editing and background music for this video. Great Job Donut!
We need a 'Dogs of Donut' video! Always seeing cute pups walkin' around but don't know any of their names!
Love a dog-friendly shop.
Hey, I wish I could’ve found yall earlier, but I’m glad I did now. I do have a question and that’s if I’ll ever be able to get a chance to get some of yalls older merch? If not, I get it, but I’d love to see some older stuff make a comeback
maybe they’ll do a vintage collection when they hit 10mil 🤷🏻♀️💗
They’ve re-released older stuff before at certain milestones
Nice seeing an episode with more details.
Me too
Love the series !
Ive noticed an increase in adds on this channel. Never a dull moment or a boring video either though. Perfect balance. You guys deserve even more. Thanks for all the awesome content!
In regards to the gear grinding on low car, is there any chance of heat making everything expand/swell and them making contact again at the worst possible time?
I’m assuming the oem gears were put in there with the smallest of tolerances as possible for cost savings.
Big tolerances are scheaper than small tolerances. I doubt that grinding is enough to cause measurable permanent deformation
7:12 as you can see he’s applying *TECHNIQUE*
Glad u guys got em both runnin again
17:17 "Stepson, what are you doing!?"
17:22 “Feed it back into its mommy” ☠️
Justin is such a great addition to the team. Keep it up!
Huge fan guys will continue to support the channel for as long as you guys keep putting out content
nice video!
24:15 This is one of those cases where there is zero chance of denying that just buying the higher tier OEM car would be cheaper & outperform either alternative. This is really relevant in post 2000 era vehicles.
Great video with my 2 favorite Donut guys!
These guys are VERY clean for the work done. Suspicious af.