Here’s the thing. OEMs do a ton of research into making their products work in a huge range of conditions. 99% of newish cars will start no problem, from -20-140°F. Now, think of how many aftermarket (non-OE suppliers) manufacturers have the resources to do the same. Lots of cheap upgrades are garbage.
Not always a lot of people in the car audio realm will get a good 4 channel amp for their mids n highs and a separate sub amp almost no car stereo has a good internal amp
I got my mom a BOSS system for her 06 Wrangler and while having Bluetooth is a god send for her i feel shitty for cheaping out. It's a terrible headunit and the sound is awful and painfully quiet especially with the top off. shes not bothered by it in the slightest lol
@@TheLp640fan if its a shitty android touchscreen headunit look in the settings, there should be a tab for audio input gain, mine was set waayy too low from factory and once i put the slider back up it sounded pretty good
I got that same radio…had it in my car before I swapped it out with this shitty pioneer that cuts out a lot…you literally have to tune the audio I had it hooked with evl skar 10s and I had 0 complaints with it and I’m honestly thinking about putting it back in
Reminder to everyone who mods: the OEM parts on your car are of a certain quality, and unless buying high quality aftermarket parts, modding your car is just replacing high quality with garbage. There’s definitely a time and place and pricepoint for modding. On my Miata, I bought a “Momo Italia” $10 shift knob (well, it’s actually a 4-5” long cylinder shape?). It attached firmly but after a few days, I was just not digging the feel. I then bought a $99 Voodoo shift knob which I had on my other Miatas. So much better. On the WRX, the steering wheel is fine. A cheap aftermarket one is dangerous. Remember Donut’s “real or fake” episode where they destroyed a fake wheel in seconds? Wouldnt want that on the track. Same for crap shift knob and plastic pedals. Low car could have “dumpster dived” for high car’s Cobb shift knob for free. That said, disappointed low car didn’t go with those crappy “bare feet” pedals as seen on 1970’s vans and whatnot. Would have at least been worth the amusement.
As an MS3 owner, I feel you on OEM usually being better than most mods of the same part. Aftermarket support is already no good for it, but what is there is usually way worse than OEM most of the time (OEM parts for my car are fuckin expensive tbf). There're exceptions both ways, of course.
This is why I'd like an OEMidcar where anything they modify on Hi and Lo car they replace with new factory or OEM parts. A low quality new part might feel better than a 15+ year old, worn out factory part but that's not a fair comparison.
This. I spent 10 bucks on an ebay katana shift knob (it was for a bit, trust) and 100 on a likewise knob of similar shape, and it's worlds of difference.
the time constraint skewed this one hard! if you've got money, then "sort: highest price first" is a no-brainer. budget boys can't spend money, so they need to spend _time_ to hunt down some bargains. team low-car couldn't do that here, so of course they're gonna end up with a bunch of junk. obviously it's just a game and I'm not salty or anything, but it would have been better without the time crunch IMO.
@@SpaceMissile yea tbh the whole point of the show is to see if you NEED to spend a lot of money in order to get quality products. kind of defeats the purpose imo when you're pressuring them to buy items, especially when it takes time to find cheap deals
Agreed, let’s see what Nolan can do with HI car for a New Years resolution! He takes everything in good humor with getting the cheap parts. No offense James, your great.
I would like to see next season oh hi/low with them even pretending to still give a fuck about the content they're putting out. The corporate acquisition of Donut is a prime example of how greed destroys creativity
Fr he stays positive but if you continue to read his expressions you can see bros going through it not a jealousy thing but damn he wants to be in the position too not just get things that breaks , & the fact that the other guy idk his name lmao just shits on everything Nolan buys aswell doesn’t try to show some support encouragement nothing bro says shit straight up lol
@@acedadon2107 his name is James and he literally makes the show 100 times better lol without dynamics this show would suck and I think your assuming a bit much. I also agree with you on the point that I want to see Nolan get high car. Cause it would be hallarious to see James shit on his own cheap car and products lol
To be fair this could be used as a public safety announcement to not skip out on quality parts on your car, i for one was shocked on just how bad those pedals looked.
TBH most people especially just starting out don't have 1k to upgrade stuff let alone interior stuff. Hell people buy max speeding rod coilovers for 400 and that's a more more important part of the chassis then lets say a head unit, or upgraded shift knob.
I just wanna say, for the next season of high low can we have James an Nolan switch. James gets low vehicle an Nolan gets high. I just wanna see how it’d differ, I loved the past 3 seasons but I think sum people would love the switched role variety
People say they feel bad for Nolan for getting the cheap stuff, but he actually likes building low car Edit: probably not as much when he's only got 5 mins to search, as this is way too little time to research low-end parts
Totally agree. Having a time limit is going to affect the lower budget shopper much harsher than a high budget. Also the fact that they used Ebay which is complete trash for this type of random item shopping. Ebay even made hi car look bad.
I think that the whole point of this series is to find the best parts for your budget, but in this episode they have defeated that point by implementing a system where next to no research is performed and that's why Nolan ended up with cheap Garbage that broke. He even stated that He bought the pedals out of pressure and not because he thought it was a good deal with the budget he had. However I do appreciate the effort, and all of your videos are entertaining asf. keep it up
and that's why all the parts they chose were pointless to performance or quality of the actual car. As the main point of the show is to compare performance of the cars, this stuff was pretty insignificant so they really haven't defeated any point imo
I also think it has something to do with the engine rebuilds they had to complete. That really put them behind schedule for the series multiple times. It also shows the importance of researching and vetting your parts, a vital part of the show that we never get to see. It's a good reminder that spending extra time researching is worth way more than a quick decision.
The issue with donut selling out. They don’t get to run the show the exact way they used to and new “rules/ideas” get implemented that are *highly recommended*
The five minute limit, and $500 limit for 5 unknown parts is too much of a disadvantage for low car. If you are on a budget, you have to research the parts to get a good value.
@@dirtrider88 I agree. I am using a $16 shift knob. And it’s definitely nicer than a 2g eclipse plastic shift knob. Nolan just didn’t have a chance to look for anything good. If you have money, it’s easy to just buy something expensive and it will probably be good
I almost got one of those NRG knobs, so glad my suspicions were proven correct and I didn't get it. My stock shift knob was so heavily worn from the previous owner, and the size of it didn't quite fit my hand. With having to replace the transmission due to wear, and with every aftermarket shift knob available for cheap being garbage, I ended up discovering that a Civic EG has the same thread pitch for its shift knob as my Xterra, only the knob itself is smaller. Got one from the local junkyard for a fiver and it's been a perfectly snug fit since. It even looks like it should be stock. Thanks for doing this episode. I'm shocked at half of the car stuff I see getting sold these days, so it's nice having real-world use reviews for the good and the bad.
I know it would be a lot to ask for, and it likely not to happen due to the increased cost and complexity, but this episode highlights what Ive been thinking for a while. I feel like we should have 3 cars, a hi-mid-lo series. For example with the pedals and shift knob. The cheapest of the cheap were literally no better than garbage, and the hi car expensive parts were so unreasonable most people wouldnt even consider it. There should be a middle ground, or the parts most people will really use. Low car shows the poor quality and potential danger of the cheapest parts, Mid car is an average real build, with budget quality parts, and Hi car is the insane, top of the line parts that most cant or wont afford. That would really highlight the parts where you dont want to go for the cheapest stuff, but also show where the most expensive are unnecessary. As it is, Hi car will win almost everything, because every part installed is that much better, and more expensive. However, the difference between a mid range part and top end might be negligible, in which case Mid car would be the best option, where otherwise it would be Hi car. For example, A $300 set of pedal covers are probably just a nice feeling as the $600 ones, but that comparison is missing here.
They should have a specialist on the vehicle build the middle tier car that way you know it’s what people would actually do. I don’t know a single wrx owner with a Garrett turbo in it.
Yeah that seemed like an unnecessary complication for this episode. Would have rather them spent more time researching and explaining what they were looking for than just "time attacking" the shopping.
Yeah I totally agree. There are absolutely cheap options for all those parts that could come under the budget but you have to look around a bit. I also don't really like them only using eBay motors for this type of stuff. It's clearly hurting low team a lot. Amazon, AliExpress, and other normal stores have tons of options for this type of stuff. $50 Amazon head units can definitely be solid. It would also be nice to see Nolan be able to make the decision to not replace some parts. The stock STI pedals are great for example.
@@UnluckycharmsGaming eBay motors is the sponsor, so that doesn't surprise me, unfortunate they are probably obligated to only shop there. And agreed on the stock parts, although these aren't STIs.
EFI doesn't make more power than carbs. "upgrading" the brakes doesn't work. Points ignition is better for power. You've been lied to about the new shiny things. Buy Now!...These guys are cool but they have the American consumer virus.
I love how Nolan answers the correct question and james says noooo lmao I love the level of friendship on donut. Been a fan since day one it never gets old
Truly the only necessary mod was the gauges on a track car. The oem versions worked well enough that on a budget you really don't need to swap out the wheel, knob, pedals or radio.
I think they could also better (if they wanted improved sound) go for a 2din so only text head unit, instead of an infotainment system. At 2 din head units you get a really solid one at 50 bucks.
@@gercobosch2870 if they insisted on swapping for a screen unit, they could have gotten the OBD2 Bluetooth adapter and used it as the auxiliary gauges, this saving money. Also the install looking bad was their fault, not the head unit.
I love this series and look forward to every episode. I do have to say though I prefer when there is time and thought put in the purchases. Because yah if you just do the cheapest thing you can find with little to no research it’s a good chance it’s going to be garbage. But doing proper research on low or high can make each item show real pros and cons. Long story short I didn’t really care for the whole time attack purchasing but it does at least show don’t make rushed purchases. Keep up the good work!
Totally agree. I think it could be even cooler if they gave a time limit to the high car and unlimited research time for the low car so we can see if a well researched budget option can stack up to an impulsive expensive one
This episode should be called "How to throw away money if you are rich and stupid vs poor and stupid". Absolute waste of money. Don't be like this, do your research.
you’re so right- the only way the poor can get a good deal is by taking copious amounts of time investigating for sales or cheaper alternatives with similar results and features.
I feel like this time high car is doing a lot better than low car by a heavier margin then usually, also this time limit kinda hurts the whole idea of this series, its not really a good comparison anymore
I understand where you’re coming from with the time limit limiting the possibilities, but this was just a fun episode that didn’t majorly impact the performance of each car, however I don’t think Hi car is much better than Low Car, each major performance comparison they’ve been pretty close, especially after hi cars multiple engine ending schemes
@@ragingviking5712 well the past few episodes high car flew massively ahead and while i get this was a more fun episode i feel like this show typically compares well chosen budget options to the highest end stuff and this one kinda killed that cause usually you gotta put more thought into low end parts and this one kinda lacked that thought process and kinda misrepresented the budget options in this case, they kinda talked about that in the video but i feel like it they had at least gone over that and had more of a discussion at the end like they used to it at least would have made that more clear to the viewer, its an entertaining video but doesn't represent the series well
@@ragingviking5712 oh and I wasn't complaining about high car pulling ahead by a lot, in this kind of car spending more money does tend to shave time off and even small improvements are very important and it shows a lot of the more expensive stuff is definitely worth it and a few things aren't
I would like to officially request a video on tire chains. There are so many different chain options and some of them seem very sketchy. I own a pair of cheap chains that I pray I will never have to use. All you have to do is get some chains and make it snow in California. Thanks
It really depends on the vehicle and use. If your using a truck go with actual chains. If your driving a modern car with minimal wheel well clearance use tire wires or v blocks. They will no tear up your wheel wells. Chains are the strongest and work the best but require slowest speeds and moat clearance to not cause damage.
Hey guys, love your videos! This series would be more engaging if Low car had more time for research. Because that would be more reflective of a real world situation. That is, if you have a lot of money you can just buy top-of-the-line, but if you don’t have a lot of money, you have to spend your time figuring out what’s going to work best. So it makes sense for high car to only have five minutes. But it doesn’t make any sense for low car to have to figure out some piece of junk to buy in five minutes also.
I have missed james and nolan breaking down which one they would buy with their own money on the subies. Keep that part at the end of each episode please!
Don't worry Nolan we will still love you no matter if you use or don't use the sketchy parts for Low Car. We would rather have you safe and continuing to make great content with the rest of Donut.
They don't know what they are doing I thought that was clear. They have spent enough money on motor replacements they could have iag long blocks in both the cars.
This whole series is a joke. The have no clue about anything Subaru and didn't even bother to find out. Picking cars with such a massive following and shitting all over the cars and owners is rather stupid.
Yeah from my experience swapping my 2.0 for a built 2.5 almost every option they have put on has been awkward/ wrong. I think the thing that has bugged me the most is even when they tried to break in a motor they only went for 500 miles. Straight from outfronts websight it recommends 5 oilchanges over 3000 miles.
i can't wait for the season finale, this is such a brilliant IDEA this should've been pitched to MTV as soon as PIMP my ride ended cause this feels like such a badass show for TV. and at the end you guys raffle the vehicles to one of your followers.. or sell it for charity. That would be great.
I'd like to see a spin off of this series called built vs bought, 1 car gets to buy whatever, the other does proper research & builds or modifies mid to low range parts to be most efficient
My Dad used to have a coworker that went deer hunting every year. And whenever he was butchering a buck he would cut off the deer's scrotum, tan the hide, and use it as a shift knob cover. He said it was super soft and the only way to get a leather shift knob that didn't have any stitches in it. lol
I think you did the shift knob dirty, Raceseng has some of the best shift knobs in the business. It would've been better to have purchased a knob you actually liked from them instead of their most expensive option (the one they got is made of titanium which is why it's one of their more expensive options).
@@Raceseng I ordered your one of fifteen golden OrbTi for my future GR Corolla. Practical? No. Special? Very. Although like you said.... a Stratose Alcantara would have been a better option on a daily driver. Who knows, maybe I won't love the OrbTi like I loved my Spherology.
I had that very same head unit, only I paid $22 for it. A few days after installing I got so frustrated by it that I drove back to my house, got my hammer and hammered it into a thousand pieces. It was Hammer time! 🔨
as a shift knob maker, I sometimes have to use universal-style adapters like that. You NEED to put lock tite on the set screw. I put instructions in my packages that tell you to apply thread locker. I will also say, it is an inherently bad design to only have 1 set screw. My adapters use 6 screws.
High/low repairs and DIY projects. Imagine one team 3d printing parts and the other salvaging and DIY it in the best of their abilities. I'm thinking of using the OEM 350z gauges in the middle for my turbo IS200 build lol
iIf you had upped the budget on that knockoff head unit to the 60-70 mark you could've got the non-european sized proper Double-DIN android auto units that function perfectly fine. I have one in my beater mk4 VW and its awesome. AA works every time, bluetooth sounds amazing and the call functions all work and sound alright. Has a 10 band equalizer also built in.
I don't like those time constraints.. For me low part should be suitable and research like most people would.. Vs the benefits of splurging on hi part's..it was more realistic of real purchase decisions before
When it comes to picking a stereo, find several that have the most balanced hardware and software features you need and want. After finding at least a handful compare the specs like the OS(get Android 10 or higher since 9 is slower and less car friendly). For the hardware get the highest cores (usually 6-8 faster cores), RAM (at least 4GB), and memory (at least128GB or 64GB with expandable memory) offered especially since you don't want the lag and unresponsiveness from the equivalent of a cheap smartphone (usually 4 slower cores, 1-2GB slower RAM, and 32-64GB memory). Beware the cheaper stereos especially if they have any of the lower end specs I mentioned. There's a big used market for the cheap ones for a reason. My first one had great hardware specs but the software was terrible. Android 9 which took a little over a minute to boot up and was pretty slow and lagged enough to seriously annoy me while driving.
Yeah you’re totally right, I installed a head unit for a friend that was actually really similar or the same as the one in this video and it actually had Apple car play. It took some time to figure out but all you had to do was connect your phone into the usb and boom it worked. It was very laggy which made It just not worth it in my opinion. It doesn’t hurt to save a couple more hundred bucks to get something awesome.
or just buy an amplifier and a holder for your phone, no fiddling around with turning on hotspot on your phone to get the "headset" online then either. I wonder though if somebody has made some custom rom series for headset use for old phones. would extend the life, the amps in the cheap headsets suck anyway. even the dacs in the cheap headsets suck compared to higher end(even old) phones as far as noise and stuff like that goes(plus you could get an external dac or an external dac-amp and run that off usb of the phone). you could run samsungs in dex mode with extra screen too. a lot of the lag on them is just shitty software which is a shame really, there's no real excuse for modern even cheap as dirt hardware being slow to react other than bloated shitty code that's result of questionable "best practices" and not having the time and the devs and people managing the devs not giving a shit.
As much as I like Hi/lo car series, this new way ain't it, 5k is what hi car spends on 1 item, now they're getting like 5 times the amount of lo car for like 5 different things and even made it more of a disadvantage for lo car because he didn't know what parts or the number of items they had to purchase. Still love the series, just maybe the old way is better imo
@@o_0imad0_o55 yeah, I thought of that after tbh, maybe this video just was made to get the interior out of the way. Let's hope lmao, imagine next episode they're like "hi car is gonna get 10k to do 5 huge performance parts, and lo car is gonna get 100$ for the same parts, let's goooo!"
I had that exact lo car head unit in my first car. It worked great - for about a month and then the entire touchscreen stopped working and it got a horrible high frequency buzz before dying entirely
I had a 99 SF5 that was my hands down favorite car. Swap lots of parts from a WRX onto it, lots of suspension upgrades, stereo system. everything from the intake to the exhaust, even new rims someone took off their new STI. Mostly second hand parts from various Up Garages. Then had it wrapped. Had lots of fun driving it for the few years I owned it and multiple neighbors shaking their head at me for working on it in my parking spot. Good times.
I think the lesson here is if you’re really trying to save money sometimes leaving things stock is better than replacing it with cheap garbage.
At least when you have 5 minutes to make the decision on what youre buying.
Yea. I felt the exact same way. Kinda of makes me feel bad fornlow cat. Paying money to make it worse... Noone wants to watch them do that.
And just because you pay a lot of money for parts doesn't make the base vehicle any better. (How many engines did OG high car go through? 3?
Yep. Most aftermarket radios I've seen/used suck compared to the stock ones honestly
Here’s the thing. OEMs do a ton of research into making their products work in a huge range of conditions. 99% of newish cars will start no problem, from -20-140°F. Now, think of how many aftermarket (non-OE suppliers) manufacturers have the resources to do the same. Lots of cheap upgrades are garbage.
Props to the hard working Cameraman hiding behind James: 4:07
As a former production guy, i literally laughed out loud when i saw the hand. I have a couple of those stories as well.
Came here looking for this xD
I came to say this... you go my guy! You deserve all the credit.
We love you hidden cameraman!!
And Nolan.
I can feel Nolan's pain with the head unit. You really do get what you pay for when it comes to this
Yeah learned that the hard way lol
Not always a lot of people in the car audio realm will get a good 4 channel amp for their mids n highs and a separate sub amp almost no car stereo has a good internal amp
I got my mom a BOSS system for her 06 Wrangler and while having Bluetooth is a god send for her i feel shitty for cheaping out. It's a terrible headunit and the sound is awful and painfully quiet especially with the top off. shes not bothered by it in the slightest lol
@@TheLp640fan if its a shitty android touchscreen headunit look in the settings, there should be a tab for audio input gain, mine was set waayy too low from factory and once i put the slider back up it sounded pretty good
I got that same radio…had it in my car before I swapped it out with this shitty pioneer that cuts out a lot…you literally have to tune the audio I had it hooked with evl skar 10s and I had 0 complaints with it and I’m honestly thinking about putting it back in
haha 4:08 you don't have to hide from us cameraman. We appreciate what you do!
"WTF?!?! They have "Thing" from the Addams Family with 'em!"
@@evolution2001 haha! glad to see him still working
yeah, don't forget about him when you leave the car at the end of the day.
I was thinking the same thing
That hands tripped me out but also made me luagh hard.....i dont know why but glad he made the shot better 🤣🤣🤣
Reminder to everyone who mods: the OEM parts on your car are of a certain quality, and unless buying high quality aftermarket parts, modding your car is just replacing high quality with garbage. There’s definitely a time and place and pricepoint for modding.
On my Miata, I bought a “Momo Italia” $10 shift knob (well, it’s actually a 4-5” long cylinder shape?). It attached firmly but after a few days, I was just not digging the feel. I then bought a $99 Voodoo shift knob which I had on my other Miatas. So much better.
On the WRX, the steering wheel is fine. A cheap aftermarket one is dangerous. Remember Donut’s “real or fake” episode where they destroyed a fake wheel in seconds? Wouldnt want that on the track. Same for crap shift knob and plastic pedals. Low car could have “dumpster dived” for high car’s Cobb shift knob for free. That said, disappointed low car didn’t go with those crappy “bare feet” pedals as seen on 1970’s vans and whatnot. Would have at least been worth the amusement.
As an MS3 owner, I feel you on OEM usually being better than most mods of the same part. Aftermarket support is already no good for it, but what is there is usually way worse than OEM most of the time (OEM parts for my car are fuckin expensive tbf). There're exceptions both ways, of course.
Me omw to swap my quality oem rims for some rep rims that will snap in half the second I hit the track.
This is why I'd like an OEMidcar where anything they modify on Hi and Lo car they replace with new factory or OEM parts. A low quality new part might feel better than a 15+ year old, worn out factory part but that's not a fair comparison.
Since they bought three cars and multiple engines this season, no reason they couldn't do Mid Car and pay a shop to refresh the car.
This.
I spent 10 bucks on an ebay katana shift knob (it was for a bit, trust) and 100 on a likewise knob of similar shape, and it's worlds of difference.
I just LOVE the hands adjusting the camera inside the car while they’re driving! 😂
They lied to us... they had a 'magic hands' modification on the car 😂😂😂
4:08 🤣
Can't wait for $3000 vs $300 Vape
Well... it is a Subaru comparison.
Me too
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Nolan deserves an extra $500 on a challenge next season because he was shorted as hell on this one.
the time constraint skewed this one hard! if you've got money, then "sort: highest price first" is a no-brainer. budget boys can't spend money, so they need to spend _time_ to hunt down some bargains. team low-car couldn't do that here, so of course they're gonna end up with a bunch of junk.
obviously it's just a game and I'm not salty or anything, but it would have been better without the time crunch IMO.
@@SpaceMissile yea tbh the whole point of the show is to see if you NEED to spend a lot of money in order to get quality products. kind of defeats the purpose imo when you're pressuring them to buy items, especially when it takes time to find cheap deals
Honestly just let Nolan do Hicar next season
@@SpaceMissile Also, specifically using ebay motors only hampers tf out of that. You can't go find sales or other wholesaler style deals.
Lol fuck that. Give him $250 next time. It's the whole point of the show stop feeling bad for him. Lol
I am absolutely in love with the way this episode has been filmed. it feels like youre mixing hi lo with money pit. its sick
NOLAN FOR HI CAR!!!
i think a budget-swap could be really interesting for next season
I agree! Nolan for Hi-Car!
I want to see hi car team struggle with low car budget parts
maybe next season they will switch it up and make james be lo car
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Agreed, let’s see what Nolan can do with HI car for a New Years resolution! He takes everything in good humor with getting the cheap parts. No offense James, your great.
It's pretty goofy seeing the cameraman hiding so hard in the backseat. Just let the dude sit up! 🤣
Loved it. Made me laugh.
Stuff like this makes the channel feel like it's been going downhill for a while
@@CaliKrome bro what? 💀
@@Sniper0502 right? oh no the camera man inside a tiny car can kinda be seen for half a second. what a shitty channel.
@@Sniper0502 same bro, saaame
I’m disappointed that Nolan didn’t get a footprint gas pedal
They saved it for the DiCabrio
"My outlaw..."
That's what I'm talking about brother! First thing that came to mind you know what I'm sayin.
For the money, he would’ve been better off throwing away the stock covers and buying skateboard grip tape
I would like to see next season of high/low with the roles switched
Ikr
@beruskaletuska would be a nice change to see Nolan be in charge of hi car
I would like to see next season oh hi/low with them even pretending to still give a fuck about the content they're putting out. The corporate acquisition of Donut is a prime example of how greed destroys creativity
@@1st_Enoch can you give examples to reference?
Nolan has said he's always Team Low Car
Fun fact, James $1,600 head unit comes with Maestro iDatalink, which allows you to tap into the cars ecu to display the vehicles' gauges.
Would love to see Nolan as Hi-Team captain on the next one !
I was gonna say the same thing
They should’ve done that this season already 🤠
Fr he stays positive but if you continue to read his expressions you can see bros going through it not a jealousy thing but damn he wants to be in the position too not just get things that breaks , & the fact that the other guy idk his name lmao just shits on everything Nolan buys aswell doesn’t try to show some support encouragement nothing bro says shit straight up lol
@@CringeLord-dr8pe wut in subordination!
@@acedadon2107 his name is James and he literally makes the show 100 times better lol without dynamics this show would suck and I think your assuming a bit much. I also agree with you on the point that I want to see Nolan get high car. Cause it would be hallarious to see James shit on his own cheap car and products lol
This episode although very enjoyable makes me realise how much this series could benefit from a middle of the range class
or even if Low Car got overnight to research parts purchases.
5000 v 1000 would be the better option. 500 was too low, kinda unfair.
Makes for better content thoooo
YEAH I AGREE
To be fair this could be used as a public safety announcement to not skip out on quality parts on your car, i for one was shocked on just how bad those pedals looked.
TBH most people especially just starting out don't have 1k to upgrade stuff let alone interior stuff. Hell people buy max speeding rod coilovers for 400 and that's a more more important part of the chassis then lets say a head unit, or upgraded shift knob.
i think they should of done the smart thing with low car where they dont modify the part so stock parts to save money and just add wheel and gauges
The hand in the back seat at 4:05 🤣😂
Yes
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9:29 🤛🏻
12:10 🤏🏼
I just wanna say, for the next season of high low can we have James an Nolan switch. James gets low vehicle an Nolan gets high. I just wanna see how it’d differ, I loved the past 3 seasons but I think sum people would love the switched role variety
People say they feel bad for Nolan for getting the cheap stuff, but he actually likes building low car
Edit: probably not as much when he's only got 5 mins to search, as this is way too little time to research low-end parts
I feel like the time time limit placed on Nolan was responsible for alot of the wasted money
They should have given a $1000 limit for low car $200 a part seems reasonable.
Totally agree. Having a time limit is going to affect the lower budget shopper much harsher than a high budget. Also the fact that they used Ebay which is complete trash for this type of random item shopping. Ebay even made hi car look bad.
petition for nolan to be high car next season
I think that the whole point of this series is to find the best parts for your budget, but in this episode they have defeated that point by implementing a system where next to no research is performed and that's why Nolan ended up with cheap Garbage that broke. He even stated that He bought the pedals out of pressure and not because he thought it was a good deal with the budget he had. However I do appreciate the effort, and all of your videos are entertaining asf. keep it up
and that's why all the parts they chose were pointless to performance or quality of the actual car. As the main point of the show is to compare performance of the cars, this stuff was pretty insignificant so they really haven't defeated any point imo
I also think it has something to do with the engine rebuilds they had to complete. That really put them behind schedule for the series multiple times. It also shows the importance of researching and vetting your parts, a vital part of the show that we never get to see. It's a good reminder that spending extra time researching is worth way more than a quick decision.
Exactly, no point in comparing budget with expensive if your going to buy any garbage
The issue with donut selling out. They don’t get to run the show the exact way they used to and new “rules/ideas” get implemented that are *highly recommended*
kind of a them for this season. none of the parts bought in previous episodes had much thought put behind them
The five minute limit, and $500 limit for 5 unknown parts is too much of a disadvantage for low car. If you are on a budget, you have to research the parts to get a good value.
nolan should have got at least triple the time to research.
@@dirtrider88 I agree. I am using a $16 shift knob. And it’s definitely nicer than a 2g eclipse plastic shift knob. Nolan just didn’t have a chance to look for anything good.
If you have money, it’s easy to just buy something expensive and it will probably be good
I almost got one of those NRG knobs, so glad my suspicions were proven correct and I didn't get it.
My stock shift knob was so heavily worn from the previous owner, and the size of it didn't quite fit my hand.
With having to replace the transmission due to wear, and with every aftermarket shift knob available for cheap being garbage, I ended up discovering that a Civic EG has the same thread pitch for its shift knob as my Xterra, only the knob itself is smaller.
Got one from the local junkyard for a fiver and it's been a perfectly snug fit since. It even looks like it should be stock.
Thanks for doing this episode. I'm shocked at half of the car stuff I see getting sold these days, so it's nice having real-world use reviews for the good and the bad.
The knob that came from the sack looks like rainbow anodized hitch ball. ahahahahah, haha cough
you should've bought their old shiftknob for 5 dollars 😂
That was the best part, the best shift knob was already on high car lol. Figured low would of just snagged it.
I know it would be a lot to ask for, and it likely not to happen due to the increased cost and complexity, but this episode highlights what Ive been thinking for a while. I feel like we should have 3 cars, a hi-mid-lo series.
For example with the pedals and shift knob. The cheapest of the cheap were literally no better than garbage, and the hi car expensive parts were so unreasonable most people wouldnt even consider it. There should be a middle ground, or the parts most people will really use.
Low car shows the poor quality and potential danger of the cheapest parts, Mid car is an average real build, with budget quality parts, and Hi car is the insane, top of the line parts that most cant or wont afford. That would really highlight the parts where you dont want to go for the cheapest stuff, but also show where the most expensive are unnecessary. As it is, Hi car will win almost everything, because every part installed is that much better, and more expensive. However, the difference between a mid range part and top end might be negligible, in which case Mid car would be the best option, where otherwise it would be Hi car. For example, A $300 set of pedal covers are probably just a nice feeling as the $600 ones, but that comparison is missing here.
The mid car should be the seasons money pit car, practical and (hopefully) reliable
They should have a specialist on the vehicle build the middle tier car that way you know it’s what people would actually do. I don’t know a single wrx owner with a Garrett turbo in it.
True, but now we're talking 3 WRX engine rebuilds per episode...
@@firstjohn26 if they had someone who actually knew Subarus or broke in their motor then you wouldn’t have 3 rebuilds an episode
@@nickg1511 it doesn't help that they keep letting people who don't know how to drive, drive these cars and bash em into the ground.
James's expression at 15:53 that is all
_when it's christmas but you have to wait for your little brother to open his gift before you can open another one._
represents the situation of the channel lately
@@daya1253 please explain for the class
You can’t be miserly under duress. Saving money requires time for research and patience waiting for sales.
Yeah that seemed like an unnecessary complication for this episode. Would have rather them spent more time researching and explaining what they were looking for than just "time attacking" the shopping.
Agreed, give a Nolan a list and a month. I bet he'd kill it.
Yeah I totally agree. There are absolutely cheap options for all those parts that could come under the budget but you have to look around a bit.
I also don't really like them only using eBay motors for this type of stuff. It's clearly hurting low team a lot. Amazon, AliExpress, and other normal stores have tons of options for this type of stuff. $50 Amazon head units can definitely be solid.
It would also be nice to see Nolan be able to make the decision to not replace some parts. The stock STI pedals are great for example.
@@UnluckycharmsGaming eBay motors is the sponsor, so that doesn't surprise me, unfortunate they are probably obligated to only shop there. And agreed on the stock parts, although these aren't STIs.
EFI doesn't make more power than carbs. "upgrading" the brakes doesn't work. Points ignition is better for power. You've been lied to about the new shiny things. Buy Now!...These guys are cool but they have the American consumer virus.
I love how Nolan answers the correct question and james says noooo lmao I love the level of friendship on donut. Been a fan since day one it never gets old
The poor lad who had to hide in the back of the car haha
Can't wait to see how somehow the new stereo will make the engine blow up again
This sounds like a joke but it’s a Subaru so it may actually happen somehow
Truly the only necessary mod was the gauges on a track car. The oem versions worked well enough that on a budget you really don't need to swap out the wheel, knob, pedals or radio.
Especially the pedals, stock WRX pedals are great
I think they could also better (if they wanted improved sound) go for a 2din so only text head unit, instead of an infotainment system. At 2 din head units you get a really solid one at 50 bucks.
@@gercobosch2870 if they insisted on swapping for a screen unit, they could have gotten the OBD2 Bluetooth adapter and used it as the auxiliary gauges, this saving money. Also the install looking bad was their fault, not the head unit.
Not only that, but neither of them got a wideband (a/f), which once again shows these boys are out of their territory.
worked well enough...don't need to swap out
Ah...that could be the mantra of my life.
4:09 the hand randomly peeking out 😂
4:09 best part of the video. Where did that come from? How long was it back there? So many questions
The magic of television! *rainbows*
You ALMOST had us fooled!
The Donut Thing
the man lives there
Things usually come with a Swatch of the material so you can test cleaning products on it to see if they're suitable
Screaming “$45 OMP pedals!” at Nolan the whole time he was pedal shopping.
I love this series and look forward to every episode. I do have to say though I prefer when there is time and thought put in the purchases. Because yah if you just do the cheapest thing you can find with little to no research it’s a good chance it’s going to be garbage. But doing proper research on low or high can make each item show real pros and cons. Long story short I didn’t really care for the whole time attack purchasing but it does at least show don’t make rushed purchases. Keep up the good work!
Totally agree. I think it could be even cooler if they gave a time limit to the high car and unlimited research time for the low car so we can see if a well researched budget option can stack up to an impulsive expensive one
Yes, I was going to make this exact comment! It’s not fair when low car can’t research to find the best accessories possible.
This episode should be called "How to throw away money if you are rich and stupid vs poor and stupid". Absolute waste of money. Don't be like this, do your research.
Yes they should know the 5 things and the budget then make a budget
you’re so right- the only way the poor can get a good deal is by taking copious amounts of time investigating for sales or cheaper alternatives with similar results and features.
“they’re slippery, they look terrible, & i feel bad about myself” 😭😭😭
Let us 👆🏻 taLK here right away 💲💲🎁
As a Canadian, I will help James read the gauges
Thanks young Freddy!
The suede swatch is useful to be able to test cleaning products for weird effects or getting other interior parts colour matched.
I would've brought official Supreme stickers for the windows. That helps make the car faster
That adds at least 69 hp
@@Hellamoody actually... it adds 420 hrsprs, reduces gas usage and makes your car 69% times faster
Add some NOS and No Fat Chicks stickers and that street weapon will never be beaten.
5hp per sticker LEGIT don't believe me just watch sht Honda ppl say
I’d love to see a high vs low vs reasonable series.
Nolan for high car!
It would be a cool switch up tbh
The next series name: High Low Low High
Again, no. He’s already explained that he prefers lo car team as it more closely resembles how he would build his cars.
Yeah I'm sure he doesn't say that because James is his boss
I feel like this time high car is doing a lot better than low car by a heavier margin then usually, also this time limit kinda hurts the whole idea of this series, its not really a good comparison anymore
I understand where you’re coming from with the time limit limiting the possibilities, but this was just a fun episode that didn’t majorly impact the performance of each car, however I don’t think Hi car is much better than Low Car, each major performance comparison they’ve been pretty close, especially after hi cars multiple engine ending schemes
Up until the turbo upgrade low car was doing really well for itself.
@@matthewdavis3898 agreed
@@ragingviking5712 well the past few episodes high car flew massively ahead and while i get this was a more fun episode i feel like this show typically compares well chosen budget options to the highest end stuff and this one kinda killed that cause usually you gotta put more thought into low end parts and this one kinda lacked that thought process and kinda misrepresented the budget options in this case, they kinda talked about that in the video but i feel like it they had at least gone over that and had more of a discussion at the end like they used to it at least would have made that more clear to the viewer, its an entertaining video but doesn't represent the series well
@@ragingviking5712 oh and I wasn't complaining about high car pulling ahead by a lot, in this kind of car spending more money does tend to shave time off and even small improvements are very important and it shows a lot of the more expensive stuff is definitely worth it and a few things aren't
I'm surprised Nolan didn't take the way out of leaving certain things stock. Sometimes the factory part is better than the cheap replacement
12:30 why is James’ google maps in French 😂😂
Parce qu'on est le meilleur 😜
Was gonna ask the same thing
I noticed too! Though it was funny. Peut etre qu'ils ne pouvaient pas se promener dans les menus pour changer le language!
same question... thought for a second TH-cam got too smart and managed to do live translations over the video... that'd be f'ing disturbing
Parce que c'est la plus belle langue
3:33 i was 100% expecting you to say "the feel of this wheel is unreal"
8:30 the absolute instant regret
I would like to officially request a video on tire chains. There are so many different chain options and some of them seem very sketchy. I own a pair of cheap chains that I pray I will never have to use. All you have to do is get some chains and make it snow in California. Thanks
It really depends on the vehicle and use. If your using a truck go with actual chains. If your driving a modern car with minimal wheel well clearance use tire wires or v blocks. They will no tear up your wheel wells. Chains are the strongest and work the best but require slowest speeds and moat clearance to not cause damage.
I think Project Farm is more suited for that one!
The proper "low car" approach on the head unit would have been to buy a blanking plate for the dash and do a stereo delete for the weight savings.
13:08 is the best ad I’ve ever seen
Ebay motors cant pay you enough for that ad! That was great and funny didn't skip. And I'm going to check it out
Same, seems like they are winning that uphill battle!
Sponsored by Ebay motors that guarantees fitment.... pedals don't fit needs modification.... Love that.
Hey guys, love your videos! This series would be more engaging if Low car had more time for research. Because that would be more reflective of a real world situation. That is, if you have a lot of money you can just buy top-of-the-line, but if you don’t have a lot of money, you have to spend your time figuring out what’s going to work best. So it makes sense for high car to only have five minutes. But it doesn’t make any sense for low car to have to figure out some piece of junk to buy in five minutes also.
Now that's super sick!! 18:03 😯
I have missed james and nolan breaking down which one they would buy with their own money on the subies. Keep that part at the end of each episode please!
I CANT GET OVER THE YOSHIKAGE KIRA SOUND EFFECT TRANSITION AT 3:57
Don't worry Nolan we will still love you no matter if you use or don't use the sketchy parts for Low Car. We would rather have you safe and continuing to make great content with the rest of Donut.
1:47 Sounds like the editor is a fan of “pizza time” by Chris Kogos.
5:51 The cameraman in the back 🤣 Gotta love that Donut Media isn't afraid to show the peoples that are behind the cameras
Still waiting on an AOS and Oil pickup/baffle supporting mod video for these cars...
They don't know what they are doing I thought that was clear. They have spent enough money on motor replacements they could have iag long blocks in both the cars.
It's crazy how far they are willing to push this stereotype. Instead of doing even an ounce of longevity research.
This whole series is a joke.
The have no clue about anything Subaru and didn't even bother to find out.
Picking cars with such a massive following and shitting all over the cars and owners is rather stupid.
Yeah from my experience swapping my 2.0 for a built 2.5 almost every option they have put on has been awkward/ wrong. I think the thing that has bugged me the most is even when they tried to break in a motor they only went for 500 miles. Straight from outfronts websight it recommends 5 oilchanges over 3000 miles.
Hey let's get GTIs next time around! I'm gonna comment this on every new episode of this series until It happens
100000%
Mark Vs also!
@@slowdown6311 oh god please not mkv, the worst looking and worst handling of the already sloppy vw chassis. better off w a hatch civic
13:29 has me dying. The expression to him realizing that he was going to be told nope even if he was right hahaha.
i can't wait for the season finale, this is such a brilliant IDEA this should've been pitched to MTV as soon as PIMP my ride ended cause this feels like such a badass show for TV. and at the end you guys raffle the vehicles to one of your followers.. or sell it for charity. That would be great.
I'd like to see a spin off of this series called built vs bought, 1 car gets to buy whatever, the other does proper research & builds or modifies mid to low range parts to be most efficient
7:36 I will come back to this for the backing track alone.
That Defi is fking gorgeous . If you have an Sti the colour match with the cluster meter
I love this series so much. I wish I just found the Channel so I could binge everything for the first time again😂
Literally what I’ve been doing lately.
My Dad used to have a coworker that went deer hunting every year. And whenever he was butchering a buck he would cut off the deer's scrotum, tan the hide, and use it as a shift knob cover. He said it was super soft and the only way to get a leather shift knob that didn't have any stitches in it. lol
18:13 I need to know what's the background music 😭
I think you did the shift knob dirty, Raceseng has some of the best shift knobs in the business. It would've been better to have purchased a knob you actually liked from them instead of their most expensive option (the one they got is made of titanium which is why it's one of their more expensive options).
We 100% agree here. They should have got our Stratose alcantara shift knob! If they respond to this comment, we'll gladly send them one.
@@Raceseng ah an excellent one.
I personally love the Slammer. I actually just ordered two red ones for my rides.
@@Raceseng I ordered your one of fifteen golden OrbTi for my future GR Corolla. Practical? No. Special? Very. Although like you said.... a Stratose Alcantara would have been a better option on a daily driver. Who knows, maybe I won't love the OrbTi like I loved my Spherology.
@@Haloruler64 "my future gr corolla" lmao. did you pay for it already or something?
@@dirtrider88 No but I am VERY intent on getting this car.
I love the big brother little brother vibe I get from these two in this series, they complement eachother perfectly :)
I bought that exact cheap head unit once, worked great for what I needed it for
I still have mine installed, haha. Had it for 2 years, keep meaning to change it out.
I got the same one😂 i only bought it so i could use my 12” sub. it lowkey sucks but im not picky
I have a similar one paid 40€ for it and almost 7 year later it still works and dose the job.
Being cheap is ok, them lying about it having Apple Carplay is not.
I fell Nolan’s should’ve been $1000
I had that very same head unit, only I paid $22 for it. A few days after installing I got so frustrated by it that
I drove back to my house, got my hammer and hammered it into a thousand pieces. It was Hammer time! 🔨
Coming back, love this golden era of Donut ❤.
Too unfair Noland literally had to go with the CHEAPEST option cuz he had no choice. He should of had at least $750
*have
*should have had
@@Cavemanner @Cen Ciende im sticking to what i said.
definitely liked the low cars gauges better a pillar set up is the goat!
This is the only channel on TH-cam that makes ads enjoyable.
as a shift knob maker, I sometimes have to use universal-style adapters like that. You NEED to put lock tite on the set screw. I put instructions in my packages that tell you to apply thread locker. I will also say, it is an inherently bad design to only have 1 set screw. My adapters use 6 screws.
6?!?!? Jumping Jesus on a Set Screw! I was thinking 3 would be more than plenty.
I got the same pod unit, but I got the Defi Boost Gauge, and 2 empty spots lol, They look amazing, but they are dammed expensive.
High/low repairs and DIY projects. Imagine one team 3d printing parts and the other salvaging and DIY it in the best of their abilities. I'm thinking of using the OEM 350z gauges in the middle for my turbo IS200 build lol
The feel of this wheel is unreal. You missed the perfect opportunity!
I'm sure I saw a hand in the back of the car 😅😅 need to do a shout out and show all the camera crew for the end of the year 🙃
Send me a direct message✍️✍️
This season high car is truly going high with 2 cars and 3 engines I think nearly a new car/engine each episode
This really has "we gave you guys too much money and you're wasting it" vibes
iIf you had upped the budget on that knockoff head unit to the 60-70 mark you could've got the non-european sized proper Double-DIN android auto units that function perfectly fine. I have one in my beater mk4 VW and its awesome. AA works every time, bluetooth sounds amazing and the call functions all work and sound alright. Has a 10 band equalizer also built in.
12:09 you can see a guy in the back chilling doing camera guy stuff🤣🤣
I don't like those time constraints.. For me low part should be suitable and research like most people would.. Vs the benefits of splurging on hi part's..it was more realistic of real purchase decisions before
That and parts should only be taken back off if they pose a legitimate safety issue, like the broken shift knob or slippery pedals in Low Car.
It's a TH-cam video meant to be entertaining
I would’ve bought a roll of grip tape for pedals instead of those cereal box toys
When it comes to picking a stereo, find several that have the most balanced hardware and software features you need and want. After finding at least a handful compare the specs like the OS(get Android 10 or higher since 9 is slower and less car friendly). For the hardware get the highest cores (usually 6-8 faster cores), RAM (at least 4GB), and memory (at least128GB or 64GB with expandable memory) offered especially since you don't want the lag and unresponsiveness from the equivalent of a cheap smartphone (usually 4 slower cores, 1-2GB slower RAM, and 32-64GB memory).
Beware the cheaper stereos especially if they have any of the lower end specs I mentioned. There's a big used market for the cheap ones for a reason. My first one had great hardware specs but the software was terrible. Android 9 which took a little over a minute to boot up and was pretty slow and lagged enough to seriously annoy me while driving.
Yeah you’re totally right, I installed a head unit for a friend that was actually really similar or the same as the one in this video and it actually had Apple car play. It took some time to figure out but all you had to do was connect your phone into the usb and boom it worked. It was very laggy which made It just not worth it in my opinion. It doesn’t hurt to save a couple more hundred bucks to get something awesome.
or just buy an amplifier and a holder for your phone, no fiddling around with turning on hotspot on your phone to get the "headset" online then either.
I wonder though if somebody has made some custom rom series for headset use for old phones. would extend the life, the amps in the cheap headsets suck anyway. even the dacs in the cheap headsets suck compared to higher end(even old) phones as far as noise and stuff like that goes(plus you could get an external dac or an external dac-amp and run that off usb of the phone). you could run samsungs in dex mode with extra screen too.
a lot of the lag on them is just shitty software which is a shame really, there's no real excuse for modern even cheap as dirt hardware being slow to react other than bloated shitty code that's result of questionable "best practices" and not having the time and the devs and people managing the devs not giving a shit.
Joke's on you, I've never spent more than _$30_ on a stereo before, and not a one ever had anything a rational human could call "a screen."
As much as I like Hi/lo car series, this new way ain't it, 5k is what hi car spends on 1 item, now they're getting like 5 times the amount of lo car for like 5 different things and even made it more of a disadvantage for lo car because he didn't know what parts or the number of items they had to purchase. Still love the series, just maybe the old way is better imo
Think the reason for this is because its accessories. Imagine making a video on just head units or shifter knobs lol
@@o_0imad0_o55 yeah, I thought of that after tbh, maybe this video just was made to get the interior out of the way. Let's hope lmao, imagine next episode they're like "hi car is gonna get 10k to do 5 huge performance parts, and lo car is gonna get 100$ for the same parts, let's goooo!"
@@o_0imad0_o55 If they wanted to really go in depth, they should've just done an interior overhaul episode. It would've been way more interesting imo
Day 3 of asking for fox body drag cars for next season of hi-low.
Oh man or just 80s mullet muscle face off. Each team gets to decide between either a fox body mustang or a 3rd gen Camaro/firebird.
4:09 random hand pops out the back seat 😂😂😂
James: Gets $1300 stereo
Nolan: Gets $45 stereo
Me: Can't even afford a bag of chips
Can't remember who did it but Phil's handmade wooden knob over at Car Throttle at the time was amazing.
4:09 the hand popping up 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thats sick, sonoma is my home track. Woulda been cool to head that way and watch yall run when filming
Bro they filmed these months ago
@@fieldergainsley2297 re-read his comment and tell me where he implied they didn't.
@@fieldergainsley2297 no shit, think i dont know that? reread what i said
I had that exact lo car head unit in my first car. It worked great - for about a month and then the entire touchscreen stopped working and it got a horrible high frequency buzz before dying entirely
🎄🎄Let taIk now ::::$👆.
I had a 99 SF5 that was my hands down favorite car. Swap lots of parts from a WRX onto it, lots of suspension upgrades, stereo system. everything from the intake to the exhaust, even new rims someone took off their new STI. Mostly second hand parts from various Up Garages. Then had it wrapped. Had lots of fun driving it for the few years I owned it and multiple neighbors shaking their head at me for working on it in my parking spot. Good times.