I mean it would still be a strategic region that they wouldn’t want to fall into socialist hands so ye I could see an intervention into the region and maybe a Taiwan sorta thing but yk R U S S I A
There are a few issues I have with this scenario: -Ukraine wouldn’t take Russian land, it would most likely set up puppet governments. -I don’t think the communist movement in Russia is as popular as the video makes it seem. Except maybe some Chinese-backed communist in the far east. -Japan would most likely take some Russian islands. -NATO would probably get involved on day 1 due to the possibility of warlord states getting their hands on nukes. -There’s a lot of active independence movements within Russia’s republics besides Chechnya, I’d imagine the people of tuva, Tatarstan, Sakha, the northern Caucasus, and Kalmykia will also take the opportunity to declare independence. But yeah that’s really the only issues I have with this, but anyways nice work!
Was the referendum in Kuban a parody of what happened in Crimea? Even then, there's barely over 60,000 Ukrainians in Kuban. It doesn't make sense technically speaking but as a gag, it's fine. Still, amazing video.
@@warcriminalgaming2359 Sadly, Tatarstan is completely surrounded by ethnic Russian lands, and most Siberian republics would just be landlocked, frozen wastelands. The only regions I could see breaking off are Chechnya, Tuva and maybe Circassia
Given that most Ukrainians in the Kuban were Russified in the past century I don't think 97.86% would have voted to federate with Ukraine even under these circumstances nonetheless great video
It doesn't look too realistic, I think that in the case of the second civil war there would have been many more states that would have been created by enslaved peoples, at least: Karelians, Tatars, Sakha and Tuvinians. Such sentiments are present in society, I can say this because I am a Tatar. Not to mention that a Red victory is an unlikely outcome. At least for me, the victory of the Reds is a nightmare.
Lol the Ukrainian government and people have no desire to retake former Ukrainian territory in Southern Russia but I don't think most people would blame them if they did
Ukraine would become another belarus, it already has russian supporters. And no, i don't think NATO would seize Kaliningrad, would be bad for their image to steal russian ethnical territory , the "but i must defend muh borders!!" excuse doesn't fly anymore.
1:04 I wonder, what is the flag of the Communists? I know the red flag and that other flag that is a proposed flag but what is this one? And disclaimer, I plan to use these on imaginary stuff.
@Leinarenko5 This is already Ukraine without Donbass. The Russians are taking the cities one by one. Not at all the compote that was at the beginning of the year. And by the end of the year there will most likely be capitulation
i like to think of this as a scenario where russia loses and white peaces but the internal population is pist at the givernment and revolts, and ukraine decides to chomp back
I think the Second Russian civil aka. Time of Troubles 2.0 will probably occur starting 2027 , this leads to collapse of the Russian army in ukraine as the Ukrainian forces take advantage of the loss of Russian command and control. Russian civil war 2.0 lasts from 2027 to 2032, while there are many factions , there are two main sides of the war, the west Europe leaning US supported and more or less democratic Russian factions adopting the white blue white flag vs. the Russian nationalist anti west supported by China adopting the Russian federation flag. and in between various ethnic and local militias supporting one side or another. and various Russian PMCs. The war is chaotic with factions changing sides, millions die, millions more become refugees. UN troops even NATO and CHinese troops intervene. what comes out is the Pro West forces win, new independent Republics are formed Russian territory is less by 25 percent. However the gov is liberal and democratic more or less. 50 years from the end of the civil war, Russia becomes a member of the EU and NATO. sponsored interestingly by Ukraine. The flag of the new Russia is changed to the white blue white flag of the Freedom legion. and the national anthem is changed back to the 90s anthem under Yeltsin.
Мало вероятно, так как у нсс нет ни-то что либеральной, а хоть таковой оппозиции в целом. К тому же оппозиция либеральной направленности не на столько сильно популярна в России.
@@Иолит well yah but when you lose a major war, people will turn to the opposition or most likely do nothing and the oligarchs will start fighting each other.
@@johnwalsh4857правильнее сказать не "когда ( when )", а если, так как гадать кто выиграет, а кто проиграет, как по мне не стоит. Также я хочу задать вам вопрос: а обратятся люди оппозиции какой направленности ( либеральной, социалистической, националистической или анархической )? Опять же, нужен сильный лидер с мощной оппозиционной партией с эффективными методами борьбы, а не сгонение школьников на демонстрации на площади против ОМОН, как это делает оппозиция сейчас.
Everyone suddenly discovering this video exists
Not bad but looks just like the first one -_-
Bonczek made better scenario than you sorry ok but i think its better
Yes
1:35 Damn, Ukraine really pulled a UNO reverse card
The kviev rus perhaps?
aged well,
Nice alternative scenario!
But there is a question:
Why didn't NATO capture Kaliningrad.
No NATO country would want to touch Kaliningrad with a 10ft pole
Kaliningrad is a fucking citadel what do you mean
I mean it would still be a strategic region that they wouldn’t want to fall into socialist hands so ye I could see an intervention into the region and maybe a Taiwan sorta thing but yk R U S S I A
germany would take it back no?
@user-bq3ch1ps8q Germany has no ambitions in Kaliningrad modern day
There are a few issues I have with this scenario:
-Ukraine wouldn’t take Russian land, it would most likely set up puppet governments.
-I don’t think the communist movement in Russia is as popular as the video makes it seem. Except maybe some Chinese-backed communist in the far east.
-Japan would most likely take some Russian islands.
-NATO would probably get involved on day 1 due to the possibility of warlord states getting their hands on nukes.
-There’s a lot of active independence movements within Russia’s republics besides Chechnya, I’d imagine the people of tuva, Tatarstan, Sakha, the northern Caucasus, and Kalmykia will also take the opportunity to declare independence.
But yeah that’s really the only issues I have with this, but anyways nice work!
This is gonna age well
Edit: NVM
well it aged well even more earlier than expected
Edit: damn guess prigozin got what he wanted
It ages better hour by hour
Worst coup ever.
You have to put nvm again
I think that NATO would send support to the Russian Republic much earlier.
Nato is defence alliance or not?
@@Святослав-анти-Тарас More like military
@@Святослав-анти-ТарасNato is send support to ukraine?
@@Tikyfnf69 good answer, it's attack alliance
@@Святослав-анти-Тарас I guess supoortikg someone who is being attacked is attacking
Hope to see more on this scenario, keep it up!
Зря надеешься 😂
That was...something that I sort of wish happened in 1993...
Well someone got their Christmas present late
Indeed comrade
Not bad but looks just like the first one -_-
Bonczek made better scenario than you sorry ok but i think its better
@@Super_gry stop spaming this everywhere
It doesn't hurt to want
It's 9 years faster...
no
И вновь умирает отчизна моя...
Was the referendum in Kuban a parody of what happened in Crimea? Even then, there's barely over 60,000 Ukrainians in Kuban. It doesn't make sense technically speaking but as a gag, it's fine.
Still, amazing video.
As a resident of the Kuban, I completely agree with you!
Used to be 1.2Mil in 1920s
Worst of all for some reason the russians didn't attempt to recapture it in the video.
Used to be 60,000 russians too in the Donbass
@@WaleedbinKamranwe live in 2020s, not 1920s
Wow man top tier prediction
good ending of 2027-2030
Look like it is happeing in 2023
This aged well lol
This comment aged like milk
This video is so high quality for such a small channel!
It's happening already
Get ready mappers
There's gonna be a lot of new nations in the coming years
Chechnya, Tatarstan, Ural, Far East
This civil war might be over but seeing how weak putin is there is a lot more to come in the next few weeks or months
Yeah we will see it
annndd prigozhin's dead
@@warcriminalgaming2359 Sadly, Tatarstan is completely surrounded by ethnic Russian lands, and most Siberian republics would just be landlocked, frozen wastelands. The only regions I could see breaking off are Chechnya, Tuva and maybe Circassia
Given that most Ukrainians in the Kuban were Russified in the past century I don't think 97.86% would have voted to federate with Ukraine even under these circumstances nonetheless great video
I think, the author hinted that this is not very honest referndum ;)
you are wrong, there may have been many Ukrainians in Kuban, but there were fewer of them than Russians
Ukraine just used the same strategy which Russia used against Ukraine in 2014
*Putin: I’ll prevent this like I did for Prigozhin’s mutiny*
Это только ваша безумная фантазия. Конечно этому не бывать.
Не почему бы националистам прийти к власти
Это очень реалистично!
Let’s see how accurate this’ll, now that it’s seemingly about to happen.
не надо нам больше коммунизма
@@PC-le1tyнадо
актуальна пасьля курскіх падзеяў
This is so underated
bro was a bit early
Semi bad ending
Russia was dissolved but free russia lost to communists
Bro just predicted it💀
He didn’t predict shit 😭
@@Moonl55 bruh what laguace kid
It doesn't look too realistic, I think that in the case of the second civil war there would have been many more states that would have been created by enslaved peoples, at least: Karelians, Tatars, Sakha and Tuvinians. Such sentiments are present in society, I can say this because I am a Tatar. Not to mention that a Red victory is an unlikely outcome. At least for me, the victory of the Reds is a nightmare.
И чем же тебе товарищ татарин
Не нравится советская власть?
will you do a part 2? like invasion of russia
why NORWAY is missing ? although its a part of NATO
Read the description 😑
this alternative scenario isn't bad but according to Russian people's opinion it would'n happen, ascpecially in Moscow
Мда уж, все слюни пускают на ещё одну грвжданочку в 8 миллионов потерь( не надо мне с Украиной затирать, гражданка похлеще будет и страшние)
А что именно про Украину затирать?
@@comrade__hud8700 Да есть тут гении
Эм, ладно
@@comrade__hud8700 Нет, просто я устал уже слвшать о том, что всё крутится вокруг Украины, будто это пуп земли
The job clearly said that if you travel back in time you shouldn't reveal the future.
Ясно, автор коммунист
Lol the Ukrainian government and people have no desire to retake former Ukrainian territory in Southern Russia but I don't think most people would blame them if they did
Former? Ukraine never controlled Kuban💀💀💀
ukraine never had those lands
True but Kuban used to have huge amounts of Ukrainians before expulsion
@@presidentofyes12 so is Novorosiya tho
Why Japan don't retake Kuril Islands and South Sakhalin during the civil war?
yes but in bonczek scenario they did take those islands
You underestimated NATO here
no
What until the Simpson s include this in an episode 💀
Extremely epic video
Hello friends
Please tell me what is the name of this music👍
"Arena" and "Напролом".
@@Artyom-Volkov
what's up
I like the music, it's good
Well I have some news
Second Lenin in a nutshell
Should include the 100 PMCs russia has
Казалось бы, причем тут Василий Садонин
A country like russia in total civil war it would not end well
Я не думаю что страна что буквально недавно вышла из статуса гражданской войны сможет противостоять НАТО.
Cracy how this almost happened last year.
Republican army really gives the white army vibe, idk why
I in Russia now and civil war really started
Where?
@@Святослав-анти-Тарас That was 5 months ago man
Make a scenario with democratic victory?❤
NOOOOO NOT AGAIN
can you add mongolia next time
Right wing russia with LIBERAL FLAG BRUHHHH
Why is the Russian federation called the feds?
ngl i wanna see a part 2
They brought back the Russian Republic from 1917
Ukraine would become another belarus, it already has russian supporters. And no, i don't think NATO would seize Kaliningrad, would be bad for their image to steal russian ethnical territory , the "but i must defend muh borders!!" excuse doesn't fly anymore.
This music is from the chechen civil war from cherepaschkaShusha
Are you from future??? How its 2032?
Can you make
Russian socialist Union vs NATO pls
Pls i want part 2 !!!!!!!
1:04 I wonder, what is the flag of the Communists? I know the red flag and that other flag that is a proposed flag but what is this one? And disclaimer, I plan to use these on imaginary stuff.
Just the fictional one :) Though looks pretty.
Why would Ukraine be fighting Democratic Russia>
Democratic Ukraine 😂
That looks like call of duty modern warfare, 4
It's starting now lol
НЕ БЫЛО ТАКОЙ СТРАНЫ УКРАИНА!
Накаркал
Украина в 2024м перестанет существовать в том виде, в котором существует сейчас. А вы ее рисуете на карте))
It's November 2024 today and Ukraine is still fighting against russian occupants
@Leinarenko5 This is already Ukraine without Donbass. The Russians are taking the cities one by one. Not at all the compote that was at the beginning of the year. And by the end of the year there will most likely be capitulation
Not bad but looks just like the first one -_-
Bonczek made better scenario than you sorry ok but i think its better
NOOOOOO RUSSIA!
сколько грамм?
Probably xoming european war...as usual
i like to think of this as a scenario where russia loses and white peaces but the internal population is pist at the givernment and revolts, and ukraine decides to chomp back
что за бред
Where’s nato helping
There
Spoiler alert
Great Russian Soviet
ahhh, where nationalist?
I think the Second Russian civil aka. Time of Troubles 2.0 will probably occur starting 2027 , this leads to collapse of the Russian army in ukraine as the Ukrainian forces take advantage of the loss of Russian command and control. Russian civil war 2.0 lasts from 2027 to 2032, while there are many factions , there are two main sides of the war, the west Europe leaning US supported and more or less democratic Russian factions adopting the white blue white flag vs. the Russian nationalist anti west supported by China adopting the Russian federation flag. and in between various ethnic and local militias supporting one side or another. and various Russian PMCs. The war is chaotic with factions changing sides, millions die, millions more become refugees.
UN troops even NATO and CHinese troops intervene.
what comes out is the Pro West forces win, new independent Republics are formed Russian territory is less by 25 percent. However the gov is liberal and democratic more or less. 50 years from the end of the civil war, Russia becomes a member of the EU and NATO. sponsored interestingly by Ukraine. The flag of the new Russia is changed to the white blue white flag of the Freedom legion. and the national anthem is changed back to the 90s anthem under Yeltsin.
Мало вероятно, так как у нсс нет ни-то что либеральной, а хоть таковой оппозиции в целом. К тому же оппозиция либеральной направленности не на столько сильно популярна в России.
@@Иолит well yah but when you lose a major war, people will turn to the opposition or most likely do nothing and the oligarchs will start fighting each other.
😂😂
@@johnwalsh4857правильнее сказать не "когда ( when )", а если, так как гадать кто выиграет, а кто проиграет, как по мне не стоит. Также я хочу задать вам вопрос: а обратятся люди оппозиции какой направленности ( либеральной, социалистической, националистической или анархической )? Опять же, нужен сильный лидер с мощной оппозиционной партией с эффективными методами борьбы, а не сгонение школьников на демонстрации на площади против ОМОН, как это делает оппозиция сейчас.
CHECHNYA
😐You can see future? It 💩
It is 💩
@@СВЯТОФЕЙК "Alternative history" for a reason.
God bless russia
Promo-SM 😆
Yes
Oopsy Pupsy💀💀
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