Exactly it’s incredible what developers can do when they’re not put under severe time crunch for the company to make profit ASAP. Same thing has ruined many anime and that’s exactly why the most beautiful anime episodes are ones where there’s major fights and independent as well as fans join the team for animating it.
yeah, mod makers dont (necessarily) have to crunch out multiple games at once while also working in shit conditions for a company that hates them. they have a bit more freedom to make the mods/games (im including indie devs in this) how they want to. this is how gaming should be, not AAA game overlords cutting literally all the corners down to the bone just to make every dollar the legally can (unless they decide to just do crimes, which they atleast sometimes do). as someone who often gets games for free, indie games are the things id actually go back and buy after playing them. AAA game companies gotta pry the money out of my optionless hands to get me to support their cruelty. (AAA studios should never make games with online features, thats just fucked up for anyone with a conscious)
@@xanderbissell We can ship Vaush off to Australialand and have him listen to electro-swing on the Huh Duh Six-Hungeos by Old Mate Senn while talking abou corporations and capitalism.
Just for anyone wondering why it’s like this: Rockstar had a small studio called grove street games remaster the game. This studio is the same studio who made the atrocious mobile versions of these 3 games
@@calebharris292 they basically are, because the new versions are a rebuild of the mobile port in UE4, not a remaster of the original console/pc releases
The problem with capitalism isn't a lack of innovation though. Tons of innovation has happened under capitalism, that's undeniable. The problem with capitalism is exploitation of the working class. You can still hold a leftist position while having a nuanced analysis.
@@JakeSkillman I honestly feel like they are just shoving half asked sit at us while they make gta 6 to keep bringing in some more money. As if gta online and rdr online doesn't make them enough money. I don't even hate Grove Street games, cause I'm sure they were given a shit budget and tiny time frame to try and make this definitve edition.
If you want a picture of the future of the games industry, imagine a glitchy rain effect filter falling upwards past a poorly modelled and expressionless human face-for ever.
The problem with the rain is the motion blur. Even of you ignore the fact that the plane is moving perpendicular to the rain, they shouldn't be vertical lines when you match speed.
Funny fact GTA games have actually been really critical of capitalism and neo liberalism literally characters regularly talk about whats wrong with broader America politics
Honestly with more and more games coming out in a state like this plus big publishers wanting to raise the price of games it seems like that's going to happen sooner or later
Didn't the GTA Trilogy do the same thing as WC3 Reforged in that they pulled the old game from storefronts? If you own it you can still play it, but you can't buy it anymore. So much for remasters being good for conservation of gaming history.
This isnt true anymore, if your brought the DE on pc you now get the original games free and on all purchases untill june 22 i believe (i could be slightly off on the date)
SpongeBob: Battle for Bikini Bottom made a far better remaster than GTA did (At least for that game was remastered by a smaller company that actually cared about what they were remaking, this is (what Vaush said) cooperate greed crunch a game crew badly)
Mass Effect Legendary Edition was a good remaster. They improved the graphics and really polished up the first one. 2 and 3 got just a boost in graphics.
If you want the TLDR of why the whole thing is as bad as it is, its because the devs that made this weren’t Rockstar, it was Grove Street Games who have only worked on GTA mobile ports. This remaster had only 21 employees working on it, while also having to meet a tight unreasonable deadline. Rockstar was doing a little money saving and it went as well as you’d expect.
@@trissc6855 The reboot they did a few years back was garbage. Graphics looked nice but they changed the two main characters’ entire dynamic. Greatly contrasts to the original games where they had real dialogue and conflict with each other that they would resolve continually throughout the story. They are soooo insanely BLAND in the 2016 remaster and they did a major disservice to the personalities of Ratchet and Clank.
I will say, the lighting and texture upscale on the GTA trilogy is, on paper, technically better, barring any and all graphical issues. The problem for me, at least, is that while they are, technically, upscales, the more cartoon-ish designs, models and animations, along with maintaining the extremely low polycount, gives everything an extremely uncanny feeling. Like, the way the lighting "realistically" catches angles and objects to create better shadowing, and the muted color pallet and softer skin tones, at least in Vice City, gives off a more realistic vibe, but it all clashes hard when paired with the low poly, angular models and stilted, over-the-top animations.
The biggest problem with the rain is how the rain in the distance behaves. It looks like they're moving the bars of rain relative to the screen instead of relative to the terrain (which probably explains why water is drawn over the rain), which results in rain far enough in the distance to actually rise out of the ground when you descend fast enough.
my favorite bit was the Tuff Nuts Donut sign where they increased the polygons on the donut to make it round, but then they also increased the polygons on the nut and bafflingly made it round as well. You can't make that shit up.
And to think that CDPR got so much shit for releasing cyberpunk in a broken state. This is Rockstar's equivalent of cyberpunk 2077 except cyberpunk is a lot better looking, highly detailed and an original title. I gotta give it to CDPR, at least they tried. But this? This is not even an attempt at trying.
To me the slimiest thing that Rockstar did was removing the original versions of the trilogy from the PlayStation and Xbox stores so if you want to try out these classics you have to buy $60 shitty remaster
Terminal velocity is when the deceleration due to air resistance is equal to the acceleration from earth. Everything is accelerated at the same rate and in a vacuum no maximum speed would be reached (until you factor in relativistic effects). This is not because heavy objects don't experience a stronger gravitational pull, they do, but they also have more inertia. The resistence to acceleration by inertia and the extra acceleration to to the extra weight cancel each other out. Your air resistance is tied to the size of the object (and aerodynamics and whatnot). Therefore you can reasonably say that terminal velocity is correlated with the surface area to weight ratio (which is different to density). Because of these factors terminal velocity is different for every object. The terminal velocity is lower for a feather than a human because it's lightweight therefore experiencing less gravitational acceleration and it's surface area is large therefore experiencing more air resistance. The same way the terminal velocity of a raindrop would be lower than that of a huge, aerodynamically shaped, water filled hunk of metal. But yes, the rain effect looks terrible and definitely wouldn't just stay in front of your view, although if you would look straight down there would be a point where you could actually see a stationary raindrop relative to your point of view.
When Vaush said "is this a 50 cent Steam game?" I thought he meant the rapper and not the price tag, because 50 Cent the rapper made some dogshit games lmao.
remasters are also for people that have never played the game before, i just bought the mass effect legendary edition trilogy remaster because i’ve never played them before and it has problems but it’s great. final fantasy 7 and re2 are great examples of remakes that push the boundaries of what a remake/remaster can and should be, achieving realism that the original programmers never could.
FF7R while called a remaster I’d argue is a reimagining. Like the story is different and it even acknowledges the original game as the true canon as the new 7R is set in a parallel timeline. It’s a what if scenario iirc.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 well, either way i think bringing back older games and making them accessible to a modern audience and giving them a graphical overhaul is a positive if it’s done for the fans and not the cash because today most of the triple a games released by the 4 major publishers are buggy unfinished cash grabs
@@jfk8540 the ancient jrpg combat system was a key part of the original FF7. The remake isn't even a remake it's a totally different game; it has different story and different gameplay. There's no real way to experience the original again. You needed to be there in the 90s, the things that made it impressive aren't so impressive anymore as games have moved on. Still people have a toxic way of clinging to nostalgia and have to resurrect games of yesterday instead of moving on. If there's a need to play the original then play the original, if you don't want to play it because it's ancient then let it rest and move on.
First of all how do you define these words. Second of all what happened with GTA is the EXACT same as what bluepoint did with Demon's Souls. They took the original code for the game, and changed the rendering pipeline. Literally the same they did for GTA. As the game no longer runs in RenderWare but in Unreal. Thier conversion just Was shit because they hired a mobile game developer, while bluepoint is fucking amazing.
@@Aetohatir no they didn’t lmao. None of the assets were reused for the Bluepoint REMAKE where as all of the assets were reused for the GTA Definitive addition, with added lighting and AI upscaling. They are TWO SEPARATE THINGS. A remake isn’t just adding new textures, it’s rebuilding the game from the ground up. Demon’s Souls is REMAKE. Conker’s Live and Reloaded is a REMAKE. Crash Bandicoot N Sane. Trilogy is a REMAKE. These are vastly different from REMASTERS which literally just make the game look a bit more pretty. Some can be good though like the TLOU REMASTER. They REMASTERED the mobile edition for the GTA Definitive Trilogy. If this isn’t sticking, do some legwork yourself into the difference instead of taking someone’s word for it in the TH-cam comments.
But demons souls remake wasn’t built from the ground up. The code behind it is borrowed heavily. The frame data is identical. The original glitches are still there
Well, the lines are blurred. I think they even reuse a lot of the original code. Same with the Shadow of the Colossus Remake. Code base is practically identical, they just remade the graphics. Does that mean it's a remake? Don't know, don't think so.
Metal Gear Solid already had both remade and remastered. The first game, arguably the only game old enough to justify a remake was remade into Metal Gear Solid the Twin Snakes for GameCube. The 2nd and 3rd games were given an HD rerelease along with Peace Walker, the PSP Metal Gear.
The rain is especially funny because RDR2 had the best rain effects in video games ever. It's a pet-peeve of mine. Spiderman for PS4 for example has stellar graphics, but the rain looks like shit and unrealistic (still a lot better than this). Keep in mind that rain usually (probably even in RDR2) is a screen space effect, so it's almost never truly 3D, but always a 2D animated texture (or several) overlayed over your screen. What a lot of games don't get right is that rain becomes almost or even fully invisible against brighter backround, but kinda visible against a darker brackground - and it can be the other way around at night! RDR2 aces this (and so many other things).
@@sotired7827 I mean, I’m order for words to mean something we have to have an agreed upon definition. However, with remakes vs remasters there are times where it can be considered both accurately
I don't get why there even is any debate over the terms. A remaster is when a game gets a visual upgrade but all the technical stuff like animations or controls stay mostly the same. A remake is when an old game is remade from the ground up, including all the technical aspects.
The rain going up would be a cool way to show reality is breaking at the seams... I don't think that's the plot of the GTA games, but I haven't played them in a while.
@@09mrhardabs Remaster or remake? The lines between the two can be blurred (like the Diablo II I’d argue is a remake), I think remasters should basically just touch up the game to run well on modern displays and settings.
It's very ironic to me that Saints Row The Third got a realistic remaster as an originally cartoonish game, and rockstar decided to rip the original SR3 off for their trilogy...but y'know worse.
Its still possible to remaster old games and keep them faithful to the old games while not looking disgusting, destroy all humans uses the same iconic audio and much of the animations from the original game yet it feels so modern.
AR guitars vs Air guitars is actual a perfect demonstration of a joke like that taken into the future, bc AR guitars are literally Air guitars except you can see them in goggles or glasses, capitalism selling us the same shit but with new tech lmao
That could be an acceptable explanation if the time frame of the game jumped forward like 20 years but it didn't. Its just lazy, don't try to mental gymnastics a win for Rockstar.
If this shows up on Game Pass, I'll still play, but I'm sure as hell not spending money for it. I got the HD version of San Andreas on my 360 for free as well and that was a buggy mess on its own. Can't wait to play 3 cursed games in a row.
They'll never do single-player DLC ever again, I'm willing to bet. When it didn't happen for GTAV, that's when I knew. Why on earth would a company pour hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, into a one-time $40 story DLC package that most folks are going to play once or twice, if ever, when you can make a bunch of cheap DLC for online and convince people to spend real money for fake money? No matter how much that online DLC costs to make, there will always be dumb whales out there willing to blow their real money to show off to everyone else they play with online, just get a few folks with more money than sense and you're all set.
Undead Nightmare 2 with RDR2's base game survival mechanics expanded on is literally a gold mine for Rockstar. Never gonna happen though. GTA 6 will also be probably revealed by 2024 or something.
I've long been a proponent for greater regulations and fines for companies that release buggy/broken games, re-releases which still have bugs (see Skyrim). I think it rather fraudulent. Fining companies that release buggy and broken games, and remakes that are below a certain standards should be the norm. We could call it the Bethesda act. Strange the amount of pushback I get for this.
There is an argument that glitches and bugs should remain in remasters. It depends on your stance on faithfulness and preservation. I agree with your take in principle, but I don’t think it could really be enforceable. All games have at least some bugs and glitches, so you can’t do a total enforcement. So you’d have to put some threshold on it and then who gets to decide? In general though, I’m not a fan of regulating art, which I consider video games to be. granted, video games are in an odd category in that I think they both can be and cannot be “art”, depending on what how you define art.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 indeed total enforcement wouldn't be feasible, there should be a threshold, rather an absolute rule. Room for "innocent mistakes". Games are complex mathematics after all, errors are bound. This is why there could be a review process before a release, not made up of governments suit's. Instead comprised of your average gamer and even programmers, coders and developers. Able to spot blatent bugs and errors that shouldn't be in a final product. This would negate the obvious lies of companies also. Its not about regulating art (which I do consider games to be, do the publishers though?), it's not like a "review board" would demand X number of hours or correct the writing. It would be purely on the technical aspects. Is this a working product? Imagine such a process before the release of a Bethesda game or Cyberpunk 2077? It would keep publishers honest AND perhaps reveal the level microtransactions or loot boxes in a game, where none have been advertised?
The definitive edition was not developed by Rockstar but rather Grove Street Games, the same studio that ported the trilogy to android/iOS, which may explain some things. Not sure why Rockstar couldn't just do the remaster, or rather just do a remake from scratch like Mafia Definitive Edition, especially considering they haven't released a new game in 3 years.
Those old GTA games are so horribly outdated anyways compared to modern open world games, adding some polish to them wouldn't improve them much. The gameplay just didn't really evolve much over the years, even GTA V just feels like a rehash with some new bells and whistles. Watch Dogs 2 feels like a vastly improved version of GTA V, that's what the series could have become if Rockstar wasn't afraid to innovate.
7:10 is so wrong that my brain couldn't even process what was happening at first. Edit: same thing happened at 13:10, this has to be the worst rain effect I've ever seen. Minecraft's rain is pretty rough on the eyes too but at least it renders properly.
This morning I watched an old video of vaush where he shat all over charlie for his take on politics in games so it's nice to see him being nice to charlie in this video. Balance has been restored.
Honorable mention for a solid remaster is Homeworld: Remastered. The updated graphics are gorgeous, and though the gameplay of the combined titles was closer to HW2 than HW1, unfortunately, it was still a solid gameplay experience overall esp after the postlaunch patches. They also bundled the classic games in with it as well with modern resolution support.
Hot take: the updated resolution on the Mario 64 remaster looks like shit. The resolution on the og Nintendo 64 had the effect of blurring the shitty textures and inversely making them look better than they do in HD
Not to mention we played them on crts, so there was scanlines which act as anti-aliasing for your brain (your brain fills in information). So instead of a sharp jagged edges your brain made it look smooth, because that’s what it thought it should be. It’s actually fascinating… if you’re a dork like me lol
Metal Gear desperately need remasters. The only one they have is the legacy collection for PS3. I've been dying to play MGS4 again but I ain't tryna buy a whole ass ps3 just for it.
The Destroy All Humans! Remake should be an example on how to do it right. Improving the visuals and adding more gameplay stuff that makes the game more fun.
Yo, DarkViper and Vaush crossover?! I remember hearing a while back that DarkViper was interested in hearing about socialism in a more concrete sense than just "fuck capitalism," maybe he'd be down to talk with Vaush sometime? That'd be neat, honestly
Really begs the question what the point of copyright is when a game can be "remade" by a completely different staff and the only continuity is the branding.
My biggest complaint isnt even technical stuff its art direction, GTA like elderscrolls and Tony Hawk always had jank Im there for that, gta looked cartoony on ps2 but that was system limitations not trying to look like a cartoon.
gamers hate capitalism but don’t understand that they hate capitalism, Rock*, EA, Bethesda, and Activision are all committing anti consumer practices, denigrating the quality and objectives of the industry towards profit and away from functionality and a complete product. they also abuse their workers and force them to work overtime and then release the game early and make a controversy making the workers sweat, blood and tears worthless. gamers hate the companies behind these controversies but aren’t equipped with the vocabulary or economic/ political understanding to draw the connection between the anti consumer practices in gaming and the anti consumer nature of capitalism. i think it’s important to create that bridge between the gaming community and socialism or popular discontent against capitalism, because when gamers mobilize against something or withhold their money from a broken game, it hits companies where it hurts and forces them to make changes, kind of like a strike. it reminds me of what the “commentary” sphere was like before blm got people talking or more recently hasan and ethan uniting
modding communities are unironically better developers NOT because they're more skilled, but because they have time to use their skills effectively.
And because they aren't in it for the money.
Exactly it’s incredible what developers can do when they’re not put under severe time crunch for the company to make profit ASAP. Same thing has ruined many anime and that’s exactly why the most beautiful anime episodes are ones where there’s major fights and independent as well as fans join the team for animating it.
RockStar shut down the modders, too. 🤬
And also because they care about the finished product and/or their reputation.
yeah, mod makers dont (necessarily) have to crunch out multiple games at once while also working in shit conditions for a company that hates them. they have a bit more freedom to make the mods/games (im including indie devs in this) how they want to. this is how gaming should be, not AAA game overlords cutting literally all the corners down to the bone just to make every dollar the legally can (unless they decide to just do crimes, which they atleast sometimes do).
as someone who often gets games for free, indie games are the things id actually go back and buy after playing them. AAA game companies gotta pry the money out of my optionless hands to get me to support their cruelty. (AAA studios should never make games with online features, thats just fucked up for anyone with a conscious)
"It's almost as if the biggest companies make the worst stuff" - DankPods
The crossover I didn't expect but am happy to see
@@xanderbissell We can ship Vaush off to Australialand and have him listen to electro-swing on the Huh Duh Six-Hungeos by Old Mate Senn while talking abou corporations and capitalism.
I quit my job that i was at for 2 years to smoke weed on my TH-cam channel full time 😹
The fact the I see a forgotten weapon pfp quoting dank pods on a Vaush vid is amazing
@@damiongraham8496 internet truly does unite people in mysterious ways.
Just for anyone wondering why it’s like this:
Rockstar had a small studio called grove street games remaster the game. This studio is the same studio who made the atrocious mobile versions of these 3 games
I wouldn't have blinked if they just said these were the mobile versions ported over to pc
@@calebharris292 they basically are, because the new versions are a rebuild of the mobile port in UE4, not a remaster of the original console/pc releases
I'm loving the innovation given to us by capitalism.
I feel like everyone leaves out is it's innovation to make more money, not make better things
Yeah RDR2 was a masterpiece.
@@JakeSkillman
Definitely one of the top 3 games of the decade, alongside Death Stranding and Last of Us 2
The problem with capitalism isn't a lack of innovation though. Tons of innovation has happened under capitalism, that's undeniable.
The problem with capitalism is exploitation of the working class.
You can still hold a leftist position while having a nuanced analysis.
@@JakeSkillman I honestly feel like they are just shoving half asked sit at us while they make gta 6 to keep bringing in some more money. As if gta online and rdr online doesn't make them enough money. I don't even hate Grove Street games, cause I'm sure they were given a shit budget and tiny time frame to try and make this definitve edition.
If you want a picture of the future of the games industry, imagine a glitchy rain effect filter falling upwards past a poorly modelled and expressionless human face-for ever.
Doubleplus good, brother.
The problem with the rain is the motion blur. Even of you ignore the fact that the plane is moving perpendicular to the rain, they shouldn't be vertical lines when you match speed.
It looks like they've just put a rain gif on the screen lol
Can't believe Ian went from calling Charlie "Shitikal" to thirsting over him. What a journey.
Character development
beautiful
To be fair Charlie has always had some truly bad takes, but he's always hot
Funny fact GTA games have actually been really critical of capitalism and neo liberalism literally characters regularly talk about whats wrong with broader America politics
Yeah especially GTA 4
@@Raj80191 Yeah that's right, Niko even straight up said "Capitalism is a dirty business" or something like that early on in the story
@@Raj80191 also 5
Yes and that's why it's my favorite among the GTA games
@@tyronechillifoot5573 I haven't played 5 yet
We unironically need another video game market crash
All of the good stuff nowadays is made by undies or small studios anyway, so nothing of value would be lost.
Honestly with more and more games coming out in a state like this plus big publishers wanting to raise the price of games it seems like that's going to happen sooner or later
I miss when Valve made games
Didn't the GTA Trilogy do the same thing as WC3 Reforged in that they pulled the old game from storefronts? If you own it you can still play it, but you can't buy it anymore. So much for remasters being good for conservation of gaming history.
Not only that, but Rockstar also sued to pull all the mods for the old games that made the old games look better than the remaster.
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@@Kortonox This is true. SomeOrdinaryGamers did a video on it.
This isnt true anymore, if your brought the DE on pc you now get the original games free and on all purchases untill june 22 i believe (i could be slightly off on the date)
SpongeBob: Battle for Bikini Bottom made a far better remaster than GTA did (At least for that game was remastered by a smaller company that actually cared about what they were remaking, this is (what Vaush said) cooperate greed crunch a game crew badly)
Mass Effect Legendary Edition was a good remaster. They improved the graphics and really polished up the first one. 2 and 3 got just a boost in graphics.
Capitalism
Socialism is based
@@vishg5148 tru
Crapitalism
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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If you want the TLDR of why the whole thing is as bad as it is, its because the devs that made this weren’t Rockstar, it was Grove Street Games who have only worked on GTA mobile ports.
This remaster had only 21 employees working on it, while also having to meet a tight unreasonable deadline. Rockstar was doing a little money saving and it went as well as you’d expect.
18:42 His game didn't only crash once. It crashed every time he tried to load his save state. rendering it unplayable.
This is honestly the funniest thing I've ever seen and the fact that they accidentally left hot coffee makes it even better
Shout out to the Silent Hill HD Collection for possibly being one of the most bunked remasters e v e r
Shout out to Sony disrespecting Ratchet and Clank for years with cheap remasters too
Sh fogless ed
I’m so sad P.T was never finished. We just got the demo
@@tytar1037 and not even that, because Konami deleted it from the PS Store
@@trissc6855 The reboot they did a few years back was garbage. Graphics looked nice but they changed the two main characters’ entire dynamic. Greatly contrasts to the original games where they had real dialogue and conflict with each other that they would resolve continually throughout the story. They are soooo insanely BLAND in the 2016 remaster and they did a major disservice to the personalities of Ratchet and Clank.
When you have an IP that prints money and you still fuck it up. Astounding innovation.
I love that Vaush take is exactly the same as Hasans on Charlie being underrated hot.
Based. He is hot 🔥 🥵
Not exactly underrated tho is it? Everyone says this lol
I will say, the lighting and texture upscale on the GTA trilogy is, on paper, technically better, barring any and all graphical issues. The problem for me, at least, is that while they are, technically, upscales, the more cartoon-ish designs, models and animations, along with maintaining the extremely low polycount, gives everything an extremely uncanny feeling. Like, the way the lighting "realistically" catches angles and objects to create better shadowing, and the muted color pallet and softer skin tones, at least in Vice City, gives off a more realistic vibe, but it all clashes hard when paired with the low poly, angular models and stilted, over-the-top animations.
The biggest problem with the rain is how the rain in the distance behaves. It looks like they're moving the bars of rain relative to the screen instead of relative to the terrain (which probably explains why water is drawn over the rain), which results in rain far enough in the distance to actually rise out of the ground when you descend fast enough.
my favorite bit was the Tuff Nuts Donut sign where they increased the polygons on the donut to make it round, but then they also increased the polygons on the nut and bafflingly made it round as well. You can't make that shit up.
And to think that CDPR got so much shit for releasing cyberpunk in a broken state. This is Rockstar's equivalent of cyberpunk 2077 except cyberpunk is a lot better looking, highly detailed and an original title. I gotta give it to CDPR, at least they tried. But this? This is not even an attempt at trying.
Crapitalism
A prescient reminder that actually owning things (physical media) is a good thing.
To me the slimiest thing that Rockstar did was removing the original versions of the trilogy from the PlayStation and Xbox stores so if you want to try out these classics you have to buy $60 shitty remaster
Extra slimy
Terminal velocity is when the deceleration due to air resistance is equal to the acceleration from earth. Everything is accelerated at the same rate and in a vacuum no maximum speed would be reached (until you factor in relativistic effects). This is not because heavy objects don't experience a stronger gravitational pull, they do, but they also have more inertia. The resistence to acceleration by inertia and the extra acceleration to to the extra weight cancel each other out. Your air resistance is tied to the size of the object (and aerodynamics and whatnot). Therefore you can reasonably say that terminal velocity is correlated with the surface area to weight ratio (which is different to density). Because of these factors terminal velocity is different for every object. The terminal velocity is lower for a feather than a human because it's lightweight therefore experiencing less gravitational acceleration and it's surface area is large therefore experiencing more air resistance.
The same way the terminal velocity of a raindrop would be lower than that of a huge, aerodynamically shaped, water filled hunk of metal.
But yes, the rain effect looks terrible and definitely wouldn't just stay in front of your view, although if you would look straight down there would be a point where you could actually see a stationary raindrop relative to your point of view.
Some of the proportions of the Definitive Edition characters make them look like Dark Souls enemies.
15:24 *Laughs in metric system*
@khandwa style Feet per minute is actually a unit of speed. Still, as a American, fuck imperial, metric is clearly superior.
@@dubspool spitin' truth
When Vaush said "is this a 50 cent Steam game?" I thought he meant the rapper and not the price tag, because 50 Cent the rapper made some dogshit games lmao.
remasters are also for people that have never played the game before, i just bought the mass effect legendary edition trilogy remaster because i’ve never played them before and it has problems but it’s great. final fantasy 7 and re2 are great examples of remakes that push the boundaries of what a remake/remaster can and should be, achieving realism that the original programmers never could.
Unless you’re playing a bluepoint remaster
FF7R while called a remaster I’d argue is a reimagining. Like the story is different and it even acknowledges the original game as the true canon as the new 7R is set in a parallel timeline. It’s a what if scenario iirc.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 well, either way i think bringing back older games and making them accessible to a modern audience and giving them a graphical overhaul is a positive if it’s done for the fans and not the cash because today most of the triple a games released by the 4 major publishers are buggy unfinished cash grabs
Rockstar hates children confirmed
@@jfk8540 the ancient jrpg combat system was a key part of the original FF7. The remake isn't even a remake it's a totally different game; it has different story and different gameplay.
There's no real way to experience the original again. You needed to be there in the 90s, the things that made it impressive aren't so impressive anymore as games have moved on. Still people have a toxic way of clinging to nostalgia and have to resurrect games of yesterday instead of moving on. If there's a need to play the original then play the original, if you don't want to play it because it's ancient then let it rest and move on.
Demon’s Souls by Bluepoint was not a remaster, it was a remake
First of all how do you define these words. Second of all what happened with GTA is the EXACT same as what bluepoint did with Demon's Souls.
They took the original code for the game, and changed the rendering pipeline. Literally the same they did for GTA. As the game no longer runs in RenderWare but in Unreal.
Thier conversion just Was shit because they hired a mobile game developer, while bluepoint is fucking amazing.
@@Aetohatir no they didn’t lmao. None of the assets were reused for the Bluepoint REMAKE where as all of the assets were reused for the GTA Definitive addition, with added lighting and AI upscaling. They are TWO SEPARATE THINGS. A remake isn’t just adding new textures, it’s rebuilding the game from the ground up. Demon’s Souls is REMAKE. Conker’s Live and Reloaded is a REMAKE. Crash Bandicoot N Sane. Trilogy is a REMAKE. These are vastly different from REMASTERS which literally just make the game look a bit more pretty. Some can be good though like the TLOU REMASTER. They REMASTERED the mobile edition for the GTA Definitive Trilogy. If this isn’t sticking, do some legwork yourself into the difference instead of taking someone’s word for it in the TH-cam comments.
But demons souls remake wasn’t built from the ground up. The code behind it is borrowed heavily. The frame data is identical. The original glitches are still there
Well, the lines are blurred. I think they even reuse a lot of the original code. Same with the Shadow of the Colossus Remake. Code base is practically identical, they just remade the graphics. Does that mean it's a remake? Don't know, don't think so.
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Metal Gear Solid already had both remade and remastered. The first game, arguably the only game old enough to justify a remake was remade into Metal Gear Solid the Twin Snakes for GameCube. The 2nd and 3rd games were given an HD rerelease along with Peace Walker, the PSP Metal Gear.
I knew my memory of san andreas wasn't that bad holy shit, like who thought being able to actually see ryder's cholo mustache was a good idea?
Capitalism, babyyyy!
The rain is especially funny because RDR2 had the best rain effects in video games ever. It's a pet-peeve of mine. Spiderman for PS4 for example has stellar graphics, but the rain looks like shit and unrealistic (still a lot better than this). Keep in mind that rain usually (probably even in RDR2) is a screen space effect, so it's almost never truly 3D, but always a 2D animated texture (or several) overlayed over your screen. What a lot of games don't get right is that rain becomes almost or even fully invisible against brighter backround, but kinda visible against a darker brackground - and it can be the other way around at night! RDR2 aces this (and so many other things).
Thanks for the video. I was thinking of getting this since it's for the Switch (never owned any of the originals), but this helped talk me out of it.
Capitalism!
A “full remaster” is just a remake
My favorite gamer debate is people soying at each other over the differences between the implied semantics of remake vs remaster lol
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I mean, I’m order for words to mean something we have to have an agreed upon definition. However, with remakes vs remasters there are times where it can be considered both accurately
I don't get why there even is any debate over the terms. A remaster is when a game gets a visual upgrade but all the technical stuff like animations or controls stay mostly the same. A remake is when an old game is remade from the ground up, including all the technical aspects.
The rain going up would be a cool way to show reality is breaking at the seams... I don't think that's the plot of the GTA games, but I haven't played them in a while.
Vaush didn't even see when the ai smoothed out the nuts from the donut stand into metal circles
I’ve been wanting a Manhunt remaster, not so sure anymore…
hello sir
@@evan5854 hello to you, sire.
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Remaster or remake? The lines between the two can be blurred (like the Diablo II I’d argue is a remake), I think remasters should basically just touch up the game to run well on modern displays and settings.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 I wouldn’t mind both but I doubt they could get away with a remake nowadays considering how incredibly brutal it is.
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Brutal as in difficulty? Or as in gore? There’s a demand for difficult games, but ya, idk if that could mainstream.
The remaster looks like late 80s Gumby Showest claymation
It's very ironic to me that Saints Row The Third got a realistic remaster as an originally cartoonish game, and rockstar decided to rip the original SR3 off for their trilogy...but y'know worse.
We don't talk about how hot Charlie is because it's assumed that everyone knows it to be a fact of the universe
Halo master chief collection is the best remaster of any game switching between original and new graphics is amazing wish everyone game would do that
Its still possible to remaster old games and keep them faithful to the old games while not looking disgusting, destroy all humans uses the same iconic audio and much of the animations from the original game yet it feels so modern.
Remake is the game built from the ground up in a new engine. Remaster uses the same engine but improve some graphics and add some visual elements.
So now it's not just multiplayer, but single player games that will take months of updates to be playable. Fantastic.
18:40 classic joel
AR guitars vs Air guitars is actual a perfect demonstration of a joke like that taken into the future, bc AR guitars are literally Air guitars except you can see them in goggles or glasses, capitalism selling us the same shit but with new tech lmao
Juhrnpol!
That could be an acceptable explanation if the time frame of the game jumped forward like 20 years but it didn't. Its just lazy, don't try to mental gymnastics a win for Rockstar.
@@kielmessersmith1956 its a joke, but i get you
@@xymaryai8283 fair enough lol. It just gets me all worked up to watch capitalism, retroactively ruin my childhood.
Should’ve been done under super capitalism
Mafia got one of the most impressive and love labored remakes I’ve ever seen.
Capistanism
I played the San Andreas remaster, got locked out of the game when a mission glitched, completely breaking it.
If this shows up on Game Pass, I'll still play, but I'm sure as hell not spending money for it. I got the HD version of San Andreas on my 360 for free as well and that was a buggy mess on its own. Can't wait to play 3 cursed games in a row.
No RDR2 dlc but here’s some hot garbage.
R*
Also no improvements to RDR2's shoddy online and it's numerous technical issues/exploits.
They'll never do single-player DLC ever again, I'm willing to bet. When it didn't happen for GTAV, that's when I knew. Why on earth would a company pour hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars, into a one-time $40 story DLC package that most folks are going to play once or twice, if ever, when you can make a bunch of cheap DLC for online and convince people to spend real money for fake money? No matter how much that online DLC costs to make, there will always be dumb whales out there willing to blow their real money to show off to everyone else they play with online, just get a few folks with more money than sense and you're all set.
Undead Nightmare 2 with RDR2's base game survival mechanics expanded on is literally a gold mine for Rockstar. Never gonna happen though. GTA 6 will also be probably revealed by 2024 or something.
I was not ready for the DarkViper Vaush crossover.
I wasn’t ready for the vine sauce Joel crossover
Ken from VC looks like Leisure Suit Larry
Such an obscure reference
I've long been a proponent for greater regulations and fines for companies that release buggy/broken games, re-releases which still have bugs (see Skyrim). I think it rather fraudulent. Fining companies that release buggy and broken games, and remakes that are below a certain standards should be the norm. We could call it the Bethesda act. Strange the amount of pushback I get for this.
You get pushback from such a based take? They should get fined!
There is an argument that glitches and bugs should remain in remasters. It depends on your stance on faithfulness and preservation. I agree with your take in principle, but I don’t think it could really be enforceable. All games have at least some bugs and glitches, so you can’t do a total enforcement. So you’d have to put some threshold on it and then who gets to decide? In general though, I’m not a fan of regulating art, which I consider video games to be. granted, video games are in an odd category in that I think they both can be and cannot be “art”, depending on what how you define art.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 indeed total enforcement wouldn't be feasible, there should be a threshold, rather an absolute rule. Room for "innocent mistakes". Games are complex mathematics after all, errors are bound. This is why there could be a review process before a release, not made up of governments suit's. Instead comprised of your average gamer and even programmers, coders and developers. Able to spot blatent bugs and errors that shouldn't be in a final product. This would negate the obvious lies of companies also. Its not about regulating art (which I do consider games to be, do the publishers though?), it's not like a "review board" would demand X number of hours or correct the writing. It would be purely on the technical aspects. Is this a working product? Imagine such a process before the release of a Bethesda game or Cyberpunk 2077? It would keep publishers honest AND perhaps reveal the level microtransactions or loot boxes in a game, where none have been advertised?
Descending faster than rain would literally look like flying through a cloud. Because that's what it is.
The definitive edition was not developed by Rockstar but rather Grove Street Games, the same studio that ported the trilogy to android/iOS, which may explain some things. Not sure why Rockstar couldn't just do the remaster, or rather just do a remake from scratch like Mafia Definitive Edition, especially considering they haven't released a new game in 3 years.
The same devs that botched the mobile ports and the last san andreas "remaster"
Kàpitàlìsm.
8:30 Vaush x DarkViperAU, let's fucking go!
Nobody:
Fake anti-piracy screens: 19:03
CapiipaC
To be honest, I don't feel sorry for the Rockstar at all, even if the Rockstar is bullied. Rockstar harassed innocent modders, Online Players.
Spending $60 on this must feel like purchasing an NFT
Those old GTA games are so horribly outdated anyways compared to modern open world games, adding some polish to them wouldn't improve them much. The gameplay just didn't really evolve much over the years, even GTA V just feels like a rehash with some new bells and whistles. Watch Dogs 2 feels like a vastly improved version of GTA V, that's what the series could have become if Rockstar wasn't afraid to innovate.
7:10 is so wrong that my brain couldn't even process what was happening at first.
Edit: same thing happened at 13:10, this has to be the worst rain effect I've ever seen. Minecraft's rain is pretty rough on the eyes too but at least it renders properly.
This morning I watched an old video of vaush where he shat all over charlie for his take on politics in games so it's nice to see him being nice to charlie in this video. Balance has been restored.
Welcome to GTA 3: Everyone Drives A Shinier CyberTruck Now
Honorable mention for a solid remaster is Homeworld: Remastered. The updated graphics are gorgeous, and though the gameplay of the combined titles was closer to HW2 than HW1, unfortunately, it was still a solid gameplay experience overall esp after the postlaunch patches. They also bundled the classic games in with it as well with modern resolution support.
Doesn’t have the Yes song in the credits tho
@@enzyme3254 yeah that's the sad part :C
Also N64 was always particularly blurry. People complained about it even back in the day.
I was so excited to play these games for the first time. Looks like I’m going to have to keep waiting
Both Demon Souls and RE2&3 are remakes.
hooray for games preservation!
1:00 finally someone said it
Hot take: the updated resolution on the Mario 64 remaster looks like shit. The resolution on the og Nintendo 64 had the effect of blurring the shitty textures and inversely making them look better than they do in HD
Were less likely to run into low poly mario too. It was there but better hidden
Not to mention we played them on crts, so there was scanlines which act as anti-aliasing for your brain (your brain fills in information). So instead of a sharp jagged edges your brain made it look smooth, because that’s what it thought it should be. It’s actually fascinating… if you’re a dork like me lol
Metal Gear desperately need remasters. The only one they have is the legacy collection for PS3. I've been dying to play MGS4 again but I ain't tryna buy a whole ass ps3 just for it.
The Destroy All Humans! Remake should be an example on how to do it right. Improving the visuals and adding more gameplay stuff that makes the game more fun.
19:32 vaush running to get his tendies
Never expected vaush to thirst after critical
how do you not try this hard jolly hell
Noodle's video on the Halo Anniversary Remaster is great at conveying this point
I like how Vaush went from thinking Critikal was a brainlet gamergate adjacent centrist to only saying nice things about him every time. It’s so cute
I am getting W3 Reforged PTSD flashbacks.
Sony is doing good with their remakes/remasters with Spyro and Crash Bandicoot. I can't wait for Sly Cooper.
Not even black holes are capable of sexually violating the laws of physics like that.
It's only ironic justice a company who makes a game about stealing would turn around and try to rob us
I can't wait for the beta of this game to be released
Yo, DarkViper and Vaush crossover?!
I remember hearing a while back that DarkViper was interested in hearing about socialism in a more concrete sense than just "fuck capitalism," maybe he'd be down to talk with Vaush sometime? That'd be neat, honestly
Busta. Straight busta.
Really begs the question what the point of copyright is when a game can be "remade" by a completely different staff and the only continuity is the branding.
My biggest complaint isnt even technical stuff its art direction, GTA like elderscrolls and Tony Hawk always had jank Im there for that, gta looked cartoony on ps2 but that was system limitations not trying to look like a cartoon.
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Guy on the left... who hurt you, vato?
Seeing somethinf from DarkViperAU in a Vaush video is not the crossover I ever expected to see.
the universe: *exists*
Vaush: 9:35
gamers hate capitalism but don’t understand that they hate capitalism, Rock*, EA, Bethesda, and Activision are all committing anti consumer practices, denigrating the quality and objectives of the industry towards profit and away from functionality and a complete product. they also abuse their workers and force them to work overtime and then release the game early and make a controversy making the workers sweat, blood and tears worthless. gamers hate the companies behind these controversies but aren’t equipped with the vocabulary or economic/ political understanding to draw the connection between the anti consumer practices in gaming and the anti consumer nature of capitalism. i think it’s important to create that bridge between the gaming community and socialism or popular discontent against capitalism, because when gamers mobilize against something or withhold their money from a broken game, it hits companies where it hurts and forces them to make changes, kind of like a strike. it reminds me of what the “commentary” sphere was like before blm got people talking or more recently hasan and ethan uniting