I had the same problem at first when I put new tyres on my motorcycle. The combustion was great, but the effect was nought. I finally figured you have to aim the spray through the gap between the rim and the tyre. The spray has to be inside the tyre not on its outside flanks. It worked a treat after that. Hint: if you take the valve out beforehand you don't need to attach the tyre to a compressor. You can actually hear the air being sucked in after a successful combustion.
I had some bad experiences with this method so I finally bit the bullet and bought a 5-gallon bead seater blaster, that thing seats a bead like nobody's business.
Honestly. That’s all we got and we set any bead we need to do in our shop from semi to even lawnmowers that won’t seat with a quick blast of air from the tire machine.
If you put a ratchet strap around the tire and tighten it, the bead will come close to the rim. Always remove the valve core and do not hook up a hose to the rim. Sometimes you can use an air nozzle to force the tire onto the bead if it has contact with the rim. You were spraying way too much ether in the tire. A one second burst is enough, any more than that an the results might not be what you expected.
Once you failed the first attempt with the second tire, you needed to flush the smoke out of it with a blow gun since the air from the valve stem wasn't even getting into the tire. You have to have some fresh air inside with the ether for it to burn. Smoke won't work.
@@jeremybreeden4228 I certainly hope they do. They fill tires with nitrogen these days to cut back on oxidization but the fumes from the explosion would probably ADD to it.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN MENTION'D ANYWHERE IN THESE COMMENT ON THIS VIDEO BUT I WILL SAY IT . WHAT HE IS DOING CAN BE VERYYY DANGEROUS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING DONT DO IT ..... AND SHOULD NOT BE DONE THE WAY YOU SEE HERE... . BUT IF YOU INSIST ON DOING IT MAKE SURE YOU USE A BUCKET ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE RIM..... NEVERRR PUT THE WHEEL ON A FLAT SUFFACE..... IT CAN OR WILL POP UP AND HIT YOU IN THE FACE OR HEAD RESULTING IN MAJOR INJURY OR EVEN DEATH . ALWAYS MAKE SURE AND USE A BUCKET UNDERNEATH . SET THE WHEEL'S RIM ON TOP OF THE BUCKET SO THE WHEEL IS NOT TOUCHING THE GROUND . ALSO MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS THERE WITH YOU . MY ADVICE WITHOUT A PROPER... SAFETY CAGE AND TIRE CHAIN REISTRAINT I WOULD NOT DO IT . I JUST WANT TO KEEP YOU ALL SAFE . I DID THIS TYPE OF WORK ON BIG TRUCK TIRES FOR YEARS AND SEEN SOME THINGS YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE BE CAREFUL .
Very well spoken. Tires can.....take your head clean off. I've done tractor trailer tires for years,split rim(windo maker) ain't no joke to play around with death
Appreciate your insight, gonna replace my tire stem with a buddy and we’ve both done much harder tasks however I’d say this might be worth bringing into discount tire really quick if you don’t wanna risk it
@@thomasconway499 Yup, we have those split rims on certain models of aircraft some with tubes and some tubeless. I always kept the stories I heard about split rims in my mind when I would have to take them apart, that said I never had a issue. I really wonder how dangerous could it really be, let’s say someone f**ked up and started to take apart one fully pressurized, wouldn’t the rim pop the seal before all the bolts were all the way out? It would certainly make you deaf and need clean underwear but I don’t imagine someone would get all the hardware out before the air/nitrogen escaped, no? If they did somehow some way.... ouch! Lots of red paste to clean!
I did a set of tires over the weekend. This is how I always seat the beads. I had a partial can of Pyroil starting fluid. I used it on the first 3 tires and it worked 1st time on each. The can was empty for the 4th tire so I used Supertech starting fluid. A can and a half later and many attempts I finally got it. It seemed like it didn't have the super fast flash burn of the pyroil.
I have been putting tires on rims for 50 years by hand and only tried this once, and then I couldn't get it to work. Majority of the time I use a hand tire pump to get them seated and inflated. In my book this is the ' wuss ' way.
Tractor tires, especially lawn tractors, tires are delivered deformed and often require a tube even though they are designed to be tubeless. This is a great way to get them done vs paying $20-30 tire at a shop. Which is almost the cost of a tire. Not to mention anyone who's tried to replace a tire in the winter knows its neigh on impossible if the tire isn't in perfect round. When you need a tire on NOW, and not a day or two later, this is worth considering as long as you're not the average dummy.
Yeah I had a spare tire do this to me. I ended up having to spray starter fluid in it and light it on fire with a cigarette lighter. Jesus did I spray too much. It exploded and my ears were ringing. But at least I was able to get back home safely in the morning.
You can still do them without explosives. You might need air compressor for those but you get one side pushed on as good as you can with your foot stepping on it then stand it up carefully , apply air and gently push the rim to get other side of tire to contact rim without it coming off the side you got bead stuck on. It may take a few tries. Helps if you have another person to apply air.
You should have left the valve core out, and the air hose off. The 2nd tire needed to have both beads close to the rim edge to seat with the fire. After bead pops on, and fumes are out of tire, install valve core and inflate.
you have to get the Starter Fluid inside the tire and set tire so gap is smaller.... And make sure the fire is out before respraying starter fluid... burnt my eyebrows off a few times as a kid doing Dads big truck tires ;)
@@compa_choo Right On :) welcome to the club..... next step is Losing your eye brows to gas on a camp fire... Lighting Propane or natural gas burners... Playing with Black Powder.... All's fun just Drop N Roll
You can get them screwed, glued or tatooed back on. You could also pencil them back in. Do it right though, otherwise people will comment on your demeanor.
Many times you can just put a heavy duty car ratchet strap around the tire and after a couple of clicks it will bow the bead out to make enough contact with the rim that you can just use air (no starting fluid) to initially get it to take. Just make sure that as soon as the air stops leaking between the rim and tire that you stop and then loosen the strap. This way it doesn't break and get ya. Then you can continue to fill and if you wd-40 the bead on the tire and rim then usually by the time you hit 40 psi or so it will pop on in my experience. I have used the starter fluid trick before but its definitely a bit dangerous. Especially if you have to hit it with a sledge to pop and the explosion transfers some energy back into the sledge.
Support the wheel with a block so the tire drops down on the inner bead. That will direct the explosion upward. Until the o2 is depleted. Lying a wheel on a flat surface is unsafe.
ive been having trouble with almost seated tires. ive lost two can straws in the tire. i think i spray too much and there’s not enough air to let it explode. i push on the tire to get my straw in and do a few sprays around it. it ignites, but won’t explode. works like a charm when it does though. maybe ill stand on it or something. i was using mass air flow sensor spray and brake cleaner.
I wouldn’t stand on it, if it’s exploded while u r on top of it it will have enough force to hurt u and lift I off the ground, people have been killed when the whole wheel pops off the ground and hit them in the face and nose. Iv never tried this method but Iv seen people say when they have trouble like u do kick the side wall I slightly or hit it with a small hammer to force into it through the gaps to feed it the air I talking about. But if u do use the hammer watch out it will smack it back at u if the bead sets fast sending it to u
I have done probably well over 1000. When the tire is so far away from that outer bead it cannot contain the fire. Set some blocks underneath to split the difference in gap. Then anytime it does not go you must air out inside of the tire of all the burnt gasses. Watch your video you spray way too much onto the sidewall of the tire also. I only spray about halfway around completely within the rim . I like your way of lighting.
Not really! It took him 4 tries to figure that he needs to spray inside(!) the tire. ...tbh, I don't think he figured it out, he just got lucky without understandingthe concept. Or why would he try it so many times the exact same way but expecting a different result.
Use to do that all the time. Be ready and if it just burns kick the tire the surge of air will make it explode. The tire bead is below the stem not circulating the air to combust. Worked for me, we cannot do that anymore against company policy!
Yeah I been doing that trick for years on my endump trailer only when it’s emergency and it blew up in my face because I usually light it with a lighter kind of being in a hurry and careless you can say and lost 50% of my facial hair. It can be dangerous..!
When your on the job site you don’t have time to call someone to do it for you..! You have to do what you have to do to keep that money rolling in biatch..!
Second tire burned up oxygen is why wouldn't seat after first try. If first try unsuccessful, press tire with your foot all the way around and release, then try again.
Eeeh... wrong!! The guy is obviously sharper than you are lol. Did you not see him hook up the compressor hose? Are you deaf and missed the compressor running too? He was pumping air straight into the tire without the valve core at least half the video lol. You thought you were clever and figured out the issue only to find out you're really the school dunce 😂😂 I bet you feel real clever now huh lol? Dont get butthurt though k. It was just a rush to judgement on your part... happens to the best of us.
Thanks for sharing this video. It works great without the air and I removed valve and sprayed inside tire and put torch tip inside tire to ignite it. Kaboom !
Can of starting fluid and a BBQ Grill lighter... Do not ever ever do this on a truck tire with a snap ring the snap ring will leave that dump truck rim at about 100 miles per hour... My friend died that way, the snap ring hit him in the head and lodged itself into the 14ft ceiling
Deja lo divertido es peligroso no sabes como explotara yo me dedico a reparar llantas y e visto muchas veces a colegas fallar y tener accidentes solo tener precaución saludos
Instead of this extremely dangerous method.....and you are using about 10 times the amount of starting fluid at that, try putting a ratchet strap around the diameter of the tire and crank it down. That will bring the bead right up to the rim, so you need no explosion at all, just air pressure. If you can't get the bead close enough and need the explosion, use a tiny bit of starter fluid, in the gap.
Correct, sir. The ' fuel ' must of necessity, be INSIDE the tire - and rim for this method to ' werk '...er work. Good, job. i know a mechanic, uses propane.....i don't .......yet. What're you using ? WD 40 or something else ?....
here I am using "starer fluid of your choice" however, last time I had trouble setting a tire on a wide rim I put that mega unused "MAP sensor cleaner" to use. it worked good an I don't think it is as harsh to the rubber. WD may be even better. thanks n safety first LOL
De haber levantado un poco el hombro del neumático desde el suelo , hubieso ayudado a acercar más la pestaña del neumático a la llanta!!..y así se evitaría recalentar innecesariamente 4 veces el caucho....mi opinión desde la ventana de la humildad y el respeto! Saludos desde Lican Ray novena región de Chile
hola tenes idea que es el aerosol con el que rocea el interior de la llanta? hoy quisieron en la gomeria poner unas 205 65 15 dentro de una llanta 15x10 y no pudieron...tenes idea si se puede?
Yes there are safer ways but for small go kart tires ratchet straps don't always work. Small 12in or less tires the strap method doesn't work. This method worked first time all 4 tires just fine. I spent 2 hours trying to get 1 tire with a ratchet strap before I got fed up and brave enough to try this. This will always be my go to method now.
Put the air on first before igniting it. Then after the tire has sufficient air in it let some back out then fill to appropriate level. I've had truck tires explode and do some serious damage by not doing that procedure.
If you can get the tire on the rim by yourself.. just put it in the car and take it to a damn local tire shop. They will probably do that shit for free the safe way and it takes them 2 seconds.
@@marshapelo9830 yes they will. Did it for me, it's just air .. obviously don't take 4 tires expecting full service but just 1 and they probably will like they did mine. I even offered to pay but they didn't want anything
DON'T DO THIS. First you dont know if pyrolosis of the rubber has started. It causes a self heating chemical reaction in the tyre that can cause combustion and explosive deflation even up to 48 hrs later. The fire does not go away because you can't see it any more and you are feeding it compressed air. At the least you are trapping volatile solvents in the tyre which will rot the liner and carcass from the inside out. Have a look at a tyre that is fitted like this and the liner always has a crazed cracking pattern. Solvents and oil destroy tyres. Don't mess with stored energy your number will come up eventually. Cert II Heavy Tyre Fitter.
This is a proper way to do it just not the way it’s being done here. 1. Way too much starter fluid 2. You need a 4lb sledgehammer So you only the fluid about half the tire light it most of the time it’ll just pop on if not hit the tire with the hammer works every time never messed up a tire this doing as mentioned
look at the gap from tire to rim... if you can close that gap somehow then using air is no problem.. this method using combustion to seat the bead is way more common than you would think..
The second tire I wouldn't ever use it, you've compromised the side wall burning it so many times, the reason I say is they are probably trailer tires, and are already under a tremendous amount of stress
Yeah, uh, don't spray the ether ON the tire bead, especially several times. You burn a puddle of ether on a bead several times like this and - bead failure and boom.
This was OK when tires had 3-4 sidewall plies now it's 2 in most. Too much ether can damage them and cause failure. I've used ether in the past but not on today's rubber bands they call tires.
When your playing with fire.. Like the guy.. just keep trying. Its my warning do search to see just how dangerous this is . Not from fire blowing up the tire By using to much. 18 wheeler tires has a steal band That blew off killed few people Dont get me wrong . ITS DANGEROUS. EVEN WITH ANY TIRE.. Yes, I've tried it on small tire. Took about 5 trying on hand truck or dollies Starting fluid to much it will blow up. Count on it..
I tried this and my tire completely exploded. It was an explosion. I'm pretty sure it's possible for the fire to get sucked back into the air compressor...
I use 1/4 cup gasoline on my hd fatboy tires its enough to seat the bead doesn't cause a vacuume because not enough fuel to keep burning the oxygen in the tire This is the easiest way without buying equipment I first seen it done on a monster truck tire they had to use a lot of fuel
There is another way, learn what the yellow / red dots on the tire mean, often simply lining up the yellow dot with the valve stem, add some beads, gtg.
I haven't heard a single word in the comments yet. Your comment is #1 because it is what logical people know and think. Some meaning alot sadly didn't get it or never got it at all. I do commend all those souls out there still making an attempt to get it! Cheers.
If you’ll kick it or hit the tread with a hammer if it don’t blow on the bead with the light the extra force while it’s burning will usually be enough to pop it up in bead
So where was the explosion? You mean you blew the tires onto the wheels with either. You made viewers think there was gonna be a tire blowing apart because of too much either or something.
The explosion is what expanded the tire. I knew exactly what the description meant, but I have done it before. Unfortunately I used a lighter and not a stick and got my finger in between the rim and the tire. Poped the end of my finger off.
@@integr8er66 Im sorry to hear that about your finger. I was just saying that from the title that draws you in to watch the video, you think theres going to be an explosion and rubber flying everywhere and stuff like that. Ive blown plenty of tires onto wheels with starting fluid before, Ive even used spray paint before on old crappy lawn mower tires and stuff. Had his video been titled, 'Blowing a tire onto a wheel using either', I never wouldve watched it, because Ive seen that plenty of times. I guess he got another view out of it though because I watched it thinking I was gonna see a tire blow up.
Currently having tyre no 2s problem with cans of deodorant and carb cleaner. She just won't go and I want to keep my eyebrows and beard. Already baldy up to the elbows.
I had the same problem at first when I put new tyres on my motorcycle. The combustion was great, but the effect was nought. I finally figured you have to aim the spray through the gap between the rim and the tyre. The spray has to be inside the tyre not on its outside flanks. It worked a treat after that.
Hint: if you take the valve out beforehand you don't need to attach the tyre to a compressor. You can actually hear the air being sucked in after a successful combustion.
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Explosion must be inside the tyre but burning the tyre is not a solution
Sweet! Thanks for the issue. I've been having the same problem with my bike. I'll put this to the test tomorrow!
Good idea to take the valve off 👍
What spray he using to spray the tire's
I had some bad experiences with this method so I finally bit the bullet and bought a 5-gallon bead seater blaster, that thing seats a bead like nobody's business.
Pretty funny isn't it, the proper tools work and are safer. Almost like that's what they were designed to do
@@leightoncollins3704 You and Pascal are this close from getting kicked outta the Danger Rangers.
Honestly. That’s all we got and we set any bead we need to do in our shop from semi to even lawnmowers that won’t seat with a quick blast of air from the tire machine.
Yeah except you better fuckin be wearing some earplugs unless you want permanent tinnitus
@@user-gd4gs6bn9o I wear one was plug and typically turn that ear that way. Also mainly use a little like 2 gallon rarely break out the 5
If you put a ratchet strap around the tire and tighten it, the bead will come close to the rim. Always remove the valve core and do not hook up a hose to the rim. Sometimes you can use an air nozzle to force the tire onto the bead if it has contact with the rim. You were spraying way too much ether in the tire. A one second burst is enough, any more than that an the results might not be what you expected.
You missed the part where he succeeded.
Once you failed the first attempt with the second tire, you needed to flush the smoke out of it with a blow gun since the air from the valve stem wasn't even getting into the tire. You have to have some fresh air inside with the ether for it to burn. Smoke won't work.
I never do it this way but often times I have wondered about the gases left in the tire
@@michaelszczys8316 once the bead has seated and finished being inflated with air you can let it out if you want, then pump it it back up.
@@jeremybreeden4228 I certainly hope they do. They fill tires with nitrogen these days to cut back on oxidization but the fumes from the explosion would probably ADD to it.
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I love the sound it makes when the tyre blasts into position!
This is by far the safest method for mounting a tire on a rim! One tip, try to be as close to the tire as possible at all times for best results.
I don’t know about safest but it’s one way to do it but a bead blaster will do the same but with no fire needed.
😂😂
You forgot to remind people to keep their fingers in between the bead and the rim to ensure it has seated fully. Gotta be safe ya know...
Lol you guys are crazy
It works best if you put your face on the rim.🤕
I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN MENTION'D ANYWHERE IN THESE COMMENT ON THIS VIDEO BUT I WILL SAY IT . WHAT HE IS DOING CAN BE VERYYY DANGEROUS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING DONT DO IT ..... AND SHOULD NOT BE DONE THE WAY YOU SEE HERE... . BUT IF YOU INSIST ON DOING IT MAKE SURE YOU USE A BUCKET ON THE UNDERSIDE OF THE RIM..... NEVERRR PUT THE WHEEL ON A FLAT SUFFACE..... IT CAN OR WILL POP UP AND HIT YOU IN THE FACE OR HEAD RESULTING IN MAJOR INJURY OR EVEN DEATH . ALWAYS MAKE SURE AND USE A BUCKET UNDERNEATH . SET THE WHEEL'S RIM ON TOP OF THE BUCKET SO THE WHEEL IS NOT TOUCHING THE GROUND . ALSO MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS THERE WITH YOU . MY ADVICE WITHOUT A PROPER... SAFETY CAGE AND TIRE CHAIN REISTRAINT I WOULD NOT DO IT . I JUST WANT TO KEEP YOU ALL SAFE . I DID THIS TYPE OF WORK ON BIG TRUCK TIRES FOR YEARS AND SEEN SOME THINGS YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE BE CAREFUL .
😇😇😨😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
Watch my video to see it done safely.
Very well spoken. Tires can.....take your head clean off. I've done tractor trailer tires for years,split rim(windo maker) ain't no joke to play around with death
Appreciate your insight, gonna replace my tire stem with a buddy and we’ve both done much harder tasks however I’d say this might be worth bringing into discount tire really quick if you don’t wanna risk it
@@thomasconway499 Yup, we have those split rims on certain models of aircraft some with tubes and some tubeless. I always kept the stories I heard about split rims in my mind when I would have to take them apart, that said I never had a issue. I really wonder how dangerous could it really be, let’s say someone f**ked up and started to take apart one fully pressurized, wouldn’t the rim pop the seal before all the bolts were all the way out? It would certainly make you deaf and need clean underwear but I don’t imagine someone would get all the hardware out before the air/nitrogen escaped, no? If they did somehow some way.... ouch! Lots of red paste to clean!
I did a set of tires over the weekend. This is how I always seat the beads. I had a partial can of Pyroil starting fluid. I used it on the first 3 tires and it worked 1st time on each. The can was empty for the 4th tire so I used Supertech starting fluid. A can and a half later and many attempts I finally got it. It seemed like it didn't have the super fast flash burn of the pyroil.
I have a friend who has tried to talk me into mounting tires this way more than once. I'm perfectly happy doing it slowly and safely.
I have been putting tires on rims for 50 years by hand and only tried this once, and then I couldn't get it to work.
Majority of the time I use a hand tire pump to get them seated and inflated.
In my book this is the ' wuss ' way.
🐈pssy...🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, safely..........that's why I have someone else do it!
Tractor tires, especially lawn tractors, tires are delivered deformed and often require a tube even though they are designed to be tubeless. This is a great way to get them done vs paying $20-30 tire at a shop. Which is almost the cost of a tire.
Not to mention anyone who's tried to replace a tire in the winter knows its neigh on impossible if the tire isn't in perfect round.
When you need a tire on NOW, and not a day or two later, this is worth considering as long as you're not the average dummy.
This method really is done for damaged rims, otherwise stand the tire up while putting air then bouncing it up and down a few times to set the bead
Not really , those are new tyres on new rims . He is stretching a narrow tyre onto a wider rim so normal bead seating is difficult .
Yeah I had a spare tire do this to me. I ended up having to spray starter fluid in it and light it on fire with a cigarette lighter. Jesus did I spray too much. It exploded and my ears were ringing. But at least I was able to get back home safely in the morning.
You can still do them without explosives. You might need air compressor for those but you get one side pushed on as good as you can with your foot stepping on it then stand it up carefully , apply air and gently push the rim to get other side of tire to contact rim without it coming off the side you got bead stuck on. It may take a few tries. Helps if you have another person to apply air.
A ratchet strap around the tire works too....
@@TheNuclearBolton Yeah but: "WHAT? CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!MY FRUCKEN EARS RINGIN' SO BAD!!!"
Get it done properly as someone mentioned in comment below he sadly lost his mate
I think that it's very important to get the fluid inside the tire like with the straw that comes with bolt loosening cans ect.
No not really u can kick the tire and it'll do the same thing
@@AOM-Media ok
Yes it is iportant to get the fluid inside the tire. If it is outside and blows, it's the universe which expands.
@@noksplukk I agree
You should have left the valve core out, and the air hose off. The 2nd tire needed to have both beads close to the rim edge to seat with the fire. After bead pops on, and fumes are out of tire, install valve core and inflate.
you have to get the Starter Fluid inside the tire and set tire so gap is smaller.... And make sure the fire is out before respraying starter fluid... burnt my eyebrows off a few times as a kid doing Dads big truck tires ;)
Just burnt my brows n lashes off a couple days doin this 😂
@@compa_choo Right On :) welcome to the club..... next step is Losing your eye brows to gas on a camp fire... Lighting Propane or natural gas burners... Playing with Black Powder.... All's fun just Drop N Roll
You can get them screwed, glued or tatooed back on. You could also pencil them back in. Do it right though, otherwise people will comment on your demeanor.
@@muchgreatness7497 lol............. Just use a Sharpie like the Calvin and Hobbs comic
Many times you can just put a heavy duty car ratchet strap around the tire and after a couple of clicks it will bow the bead out to make enough contact with the rim that you can just use air (no starting fluid) to initially get it to take. Just make sure that as soon as the air stops leaking between the rim and tire that you stop and then loosen the strap. This way it doesn't break and get ya. Then you can continue to fill and if you wd-40 the bead on the tire and rim then usually by the time you hit 40 psi or so it will pop on in my experience. I have used the starter fluid trick before but its definitely a bit dangerous. Especially if you have to hit it with a sledge to pop and the explosion transfers some energy back into the sledge.
well thank you Sir, very much, I found your constructive input to be most positive.
Support the wheel with a block so the tire drops down on the inner bead. That will direct the explosion upward. Until the o2 is depleted. Lying a wheel on a flat surface is unsafe.
Thanks for the failed attempt tries too. I learned how to better do it from your mistakes. And mine.
Getting the fluid IN the tire is key IMO.
For Gods sake man..... pull the tire up on the rim !
Fr dude stupid sob 😭
That usually works fine if necessary but nobody bothered to explain to this fool that you spray the ether INSIDE THE TIRE not on the side wall
ive been having trouble with almost seated tires. ive lost two can straws in the tire. i think i spray too much and there’s not enough air to let it explode. i push on the tire to get my straw in and do a few sprays around it. it ignites, but won’t explode. works like a charm when it does though.
maybe ill stand on it or something.
i was using mass air flow sensor spray and brake cleaner.
I wouldn’t stand on it, if it’s exploded while u r on top of it it will have enough force to hurt u and lift I off the ground, people have been killed when the whole wheel pops off the ground and hit them in the face and nose. Iv never tried this method but Iv seen people say when they have trouble like u do kick the side wall I slightly or hit it with a small hammer to force into it through the gaps to feed it the air I talking about. But if u do use the hammer watch out it will smack it back at u if the bead sets fast sending it to u
I have done probably well over 1000. When the tire is so far away from that outer bead it cannot contain the fire. Set some blocks underneath to split the difference in gap. Then anytime it does not go you must air out inside of the tire of all the burnt gasses. Watch your video you spray way too much onto the sidewall of the tire also. I only spray about halfway around completely within the rim . I like your way of lighting.
It looked like the gap was too big, so the gas was escaping too easily.
Yes looks like those are really wide rims for the tire width
Not really! It took him 4 tries to figure that he needs to spray inside(!) the tire.
...tbh, I don't think he figured it out, he just got lucky without understandingthe concept. Or why would he try it so many times the exact same way but expecting a different result.
He just wasn't putting it in the correct place
I was holding to my seat waiting for the explosion 😂🤣
Title should be "Tire expansion bead seating". Should have sprayed INSIDE the tire. Flames means you did it wrong.
Use to do that all the time. Be ready and if it just burns kick the tire the surge of air will make it explode. The tire bead is below the stem not circulating the air to combust. Worked for me, we cannot do that anymore against company policy!
No more fun allowed! 😅
Big Smoke: "All you had to do was get us on that damn train Carl"!
Yeah I been doing that trick for years on my endump trailer only when it’s emergency and it blew up in my face because I usually light it with a lighter kind of being in a hurry and careless you can say and lost 50% of my facial hair. It can be dangerous..!
You can FIX flats , BUT you CAN'T fix stupid !
When your on the job site you don’t have time to call someone to do it for you..! You have to do what you have to do to keep that money rolling in biatch..!
Second tire burned up oxygen is why wouldn't seat after first try. If first try unsuccessful, press tire with your foot all the way around and release, then try again.
Eeeh... wrong!! The guy is obviously sharper than you are lol. Did you not see him hook up the compressor hose? Are you deaf and missed the compressor running too? He was pumping air straight into the tire without the valve core at least half the video lol. You thought you were clever and figured out the issue only to find out you're really the school dunce 😂😂 I bet you feel real clever now huh lol? Dont get butthurt though k. It was just a rush to judgement on your part... happens to the best of us.
@@andrewlightbody4221 that’s really sad you wrote that man
@@jackw7620 and here is an example of the school bull
2:17 !
Hahaha the noise coming from him so priceless 🤣
I always did it with the air chuck on while lighting, seemed to spread it around better. This was always on tractor trailer tires too
Thanks for sharing this video. It works great without the air and I removed valve and sprayed inside tire and put torch tip inside tire to ignite it. Kaboom !
Can of starting fluid and a BBQ Grill lighter... Do not ever ever do this on a truck tire with a snap ring the snap ring will leave that dump truck rim at about 100 miles per hour... My friend died that way, the snap ring hit him in the head and lodged itself into the 14ft ceiling
R.I.P
Thank you for th tip ad sorry for your lost
Split rim tires are known for that!
Rip :(
@@icelineman yea; splits are whole different ball game; most places require a cage now.
In that case use a strap around the tire.
Awesome! Not only does this work it is also fun as hell! :)
Deja lo divertido es peligroso no sabes como explotara yo me dedico a reparar llantas y e visto muchas veces a colegas fallar y tener accidentes solo tener precaución saludos
Instead of this extremely dangerous method.....and you are using about 10 times the amount of starting fluid at that, try putting a ratchet strap around the diameter of the tire and crank it down. That will bring the bead right up to the rim, so you need no explosion at all, just air pressure. If you can't get the bead close enough and need the explosion, use a tiny bit of starter fluid, in the gap.
Correct, sir. The ' fuel ' must of necessity, be INSIDE the tire - and rim for this method to ' werk '...er work. Good, job. i know a mechanic, uses propane.....i don't .......yet. What're you using ? WD 40 or something else ?....
here I am using "starer fluid of your choice" however, last time I had trouble setting a tire on a wide rim I put that mega unused "MAP sensor cleaner" to use. it worked good an I don't think it is as harsh to the rubber. WD may be even better. thanks n safety first LOL
What about putting the either inside the damn tire instead of spraying it all over the side wall
Ikr
Rookie mistake trying to be TH-cam cool, literally melted the tire
Didn't spray INSIDE the tire cavity. Use the red straw that comes with the can to spray inside.
Gas or brake cleaner works better. Also if you actually get it inside the tire to conceal your explosion
De haber levantado un poco el hombro del neumático desde el suelo , hubieso ayudado a acercar más la pestaña del neumático a la llanta!!..y así se evitaría recalentar innecesariamente 4 veces el caucho....mi opinión desde la ventana de la humildad y el respeto!
Saludos desde Lican Ray novena región de Chile
hola tenes idea que es el aerosol con el que rocea el interior de la llanta? hoy quisieron en la gomeria poner unas 205 65 15 dentro de una llanta 15x10 y no pudieron...tenes idea si se puede?
Stand the tire up and push down on it while blasting with air. It works on my motorcycle tires with a small husky compressor.
Maybe if he didn't waste half the can spraying on the sidewall and more inside also what's with those little spurts
Premature sidewall failure...
Leave the air hose connected and flowing. Spray the fluid INSIDE the tire near the valve.
May I ask why applied this method of fire ....reduces slippages.... REDUCES flaps...????
narrower tire onto a wider rim, many refer to this as tire stretching
You are MAD... lot easier and safer ways that i can think of, and whats been said bellow :)
Yes there are safer ways but for small go kart tires ratchet straps don't always work. Small 12in or less tires the strap method doesn't work. This method worked first time all 4 tires just fine. I spent 2 hours trying to get 1 tire with a ratchet strap before I got fed up and brave enough to try this. This will always be my go to method now.
Got that bead nice and hot and sticky for a good seal. Probably ruin the sealing surface if you ever take the tire off.
You must get the propellant into the tire ....This shows how much was sprayed onto the outside of the tire ...
Get a ratchet strap to squeeze the tire, it will save your eye brows and maybe your life.
that's what i do. thought I invented it. Used it today for four wheeler tires
@@timothylongmore7325 Timothy its an old tyre fitters trick.
Oh look the billionth video of this trick.
Is it safety to drive it with this method too strached the tire
What kind of spay could be used here? Could you used the
Long-neck butane lighter here?
Put the air on first before igniting it. Then after the tire has sufficient air in it let some back out then fill to appropriate level. I've had truck tires explode and do some serious damage by not doing that procedure.
It's safer to do it with compressed air alone. I've never seen or done this swith fire and I've seated plenty of tires.
That many times?
Is this guy kinda not doing it right because it didn't look "normal" to me? Or is this spot on??
If you can get the tire on the rim by yourself.. just put it in the car and take it to a damn local tire shop. They will probably do that shit for free the safe way and it takes them 2 seconds.
No tire shop will do it for free.
@@marshapelo9830 yes they will. Did it for me, it's just air .. obviously don't take 4 tires expecting full service but just 1 and they probably will like they did mine. I even offered to pay but they didn't want anything
I never pay to mount and balance my tire. I legit do this 1 to 2 times ever month or 2. Burn up alot of off road tires and atv tires.
Do you have to balance your tires if your mainly going off roading with them?
DON'T DO THIS. First you dont know if pyrolosis of the rubber has started. It causes a self heating chemical reaction in the tyre that can cause combustion and explosive deflation even up to 48 hrs later. The fire does not go away because you can't see it any more and you are feeding it compressed air. At the least you are trapping volatile solvents in the tyre which will rot the liner and carcass from the inside out. Have a look at a tyre that is fitted like this and the liner always has a crazed cracking pattern. Solvents and oil destroy tyres. Don't mess with stored energy your number will come up eventually.
Cert II Heavy Tyre Fitter.
This is a proper way to do it just not the way it’s being done here.
1. Way too much starter fluid
2. You need a 4lb sledgehammer
So you only the fluid about half the tire light it most of the time it’ll just pop on if not hit the tire with the hammer works every time never messed up a tire this doing as mentioned
What was the accelerant that you were using? Is it Starter fluid? or something else?
Bradex easy start..
The biggest problem I have is not putting enough gas or starting fluid in the first time or two.
Is it really that hard to just let the air pop em on there correctly?
No u cant do that there is beads in it
look at the gap from tire to rim... if you can close that gap somehow then using air is no problem.. this method using combustion to seat the bead is way more common than you would think..
can this be done With a alcohol
Is this good for you tire?
Yes
Why Certainly! Melting the rubber is perfectly fine! 😂
You'll melt the tire before you seat it bud!😊
this is gonna work, next try for sure 😆
Tires that actually fit the rims would have been much better. Those tires are obviously made for a rim half that width
Ether: The most abused chemical in a can on the planet.
So he kept spraying the stuff on the outside. You need a space to spray the fluid in.
Well I was expecting a tyre to blow up. Lmao 😅
Much better tire bead bazooka
I do this all day long at work with truck & tractor tires
what is this spray ?
@@eizot68 starting fluid. Just dont spray too much. Start with the smallest amounts. It is VERY DANGEROUS.
@@tylerkempfer750 thank you bro !
The second tire I wouldn't ever use it, you've compromised the side wall burning it so many times, the reason I say is they are probably trailer tires, and are already under a tremendous amount of stress
wrong.
Hardly.
your definition of explosion is different than mine
What are you use for the fire?
Brake cleaner.
Very good ...tutorial 👍👍👍
how easy it is to use an 8" pipe to fill the hole
Yeah, uh, don't spray the ether ON the tire bead, especially several times. You burn a puddle of ether on a bead several times like this and - bead failure and boom.
You need the fuel inside not the sidewall !
This was OK when tires had 3-4 sidewall plies now it's 2 in most. Too much ether can damage them and cause failure. I've used ether in the past but not on today's rubber bands they call tires.
When your playing with fire..
Like the guy.. just keep trying.
Its my warning do search to see just how dangerous this is .
Not from fire blowing up the tire
By using to much.
18 wheeler tires has a steal band
That blew off killed few people
Dont get me wrong .
ITS DANGEROUS.
EVEN WITH ANY TIRE..
Yes, I've tried it on small tire.
Took about 5 trying on hand truck or dollies
Starting fluid to much it will blow up. Count on it..
I tried this and my tire completely exploded. It was an explosion. I'm pretty sure it's possible for the fire to get sucked back into the air compressor...
I use 1/4 cup gasoline on my hd fatboy tires its enough to seat the bead
doesn't cause a vacuume because not enough fuel to keep burning the oxygen in the tire
This is the easiest way without buying equipment
I first seen it done on a monster truck tire they had to use a lot of fuel
You have to spray it inside the tire...not on the sidewall!
amazing,thankz for idea 👍👍👍
the rims are little too wide for the tires.no wonder you had to go to extremes to get them to bead.
Very nice!! thank you very much my friend!!!
مرحبا ما اسم هذه المواد المشتعله في بلدكم
Now go pay $20 to get it balanced. are you could have paid the 20 bucks to have them balanced it and put it on. Either way to get 20 bucks out of you.
"balancing beads" for the win Mike =P"
There is another way, learn what the yellow / red dots on the tire mean, often simply lining up the yellow dot with the valve stem, add some beads, gtg.
What is that call
Using fire 🔥 will void any tire warranty, you have to use an air tank
Took you enough times to get it done. You should have kicked the damn tire after you set it a blaze
I hit them with a sledge, I'm chicken 🐔
Las llantas estan mojadas y debe ser un clama frio por eso la llanta implosiona en cuanto explota y se apaga el fuego
Now you can dump the second tyres in some scrapyard.
not as hot as you think, still using it...
Russian Lifestyle 😁
Has anyone address the fact that the tires still need balance
I haven't heard a single word in the comments yet. Your comment is #1 because it is what logical people know and think. Some meaning alot sadly didn't get it or never got it at all. I do commend all those souls out there still making an attempt to get it! Cheers.
i'd be scared of that shit blowing up on me and worse case the metal rim flying at you
If you’ll kick it or hit the tread with a hammer if it don’t blow on the bead with the light the extra force while it’s burning will usually be enough to pop it up in bead
Tell this guy to spray the ether IN the tire, not ON THE TIRE. I thought that part was obvious.
So where was the explosion? You mean you blew the tires onto the wheels with either. You made viewers think there was gonna be a tire blowing apart because of too much either or something.
combustion chamber bead setting with either... >_>
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The explosion is what expanded the tire. I knew exactly what the description meant, but I have done it before. Unfortunately I used a lighter and not a stick and got my finger in between the rim and the tire. Poped the end of my finger off.
@@integr8er66 Im sorry to hear that about your finger. I was just saying that from the title that draws you in to watch the video, you think theres going to be an explosion and rubber flying everywhere and stuff like that. Ive blown plenty of tires onto wheels with starting fluid before, Ive even used spray paint before on old crappy lawn mower tires and stuff. Had his video been titled, 'Blowing a tire onto a wheel using either', I never wouldve watched it, because Ive seen that plenty of times. I guess he got another view out of it though because I watched it thinking I was gonna see a tire blow up.
Whats in the spray can?
No tire was harmed in the making of this video
what sprais use?
Started fluid
STARTER FLUID
Currently having tyre no 2s problem with cans of deodorant and carb cleaner. She just won't go and I want to keep my eyebrows and beard. Already baldy up to the elbows.