Science Behind Using Fire To Mount Car Tires
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- Videos of people lighting their tires on fire using matches and lighter fluid have quickly gone viral. Incredibly enough, this spectacle isn't just for show. It can prove practical in an emergency when your tires have become flat and no longer form a seal with your wheels. This video delves into the science behind setting tire beads that have become unseated, and mounting a tire on a wheel using a controlled explosion.
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Science Behind Using Fire To Mount Car Tires
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This brings a whole new meaning to Hot Wheels.
Hot wheels 2
Or maybe it's because after a lot of driving the rubber gets hot because of friction?
Lmao
Man. Whans the last time you had a hot wheels car in your hand
Well hello there Leon
I grew up on a farm with heavy equipment (tractors, trailers, implements, combines, semis, etc.). We did this all the time with starter fluid. Some of these people doing it in this vid are dangerously overkilling it with the flammable aerosol.
True that but in our case we replace the air inside with nitrogen before the tractor goes in the fields / trucks go out to haul
I’ve tried this before and it didn’t work
@@jacepayne7671
You need to make sure the flammable liquid goes inside the tire.
@@LelakiKerdus it didn’t work for me because I didn’t have air going into the tire. After I lit it up the bead would fall off
correct
"the gas ignites and rapidly expands, also known as an explosion"
-mind ignited and rapidly expanded
Lmao
You really have a point here. How comes, that we make 5 Minute videos/animations for the simplest things nowadays?
Mind blowing
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You always remove the needle from the valve! Two reasons: After the explosion, as the air inside rapidly cools, vacuum forms. This allows the air to come back in so the tire does not slip off the bead again due to the vacuum. Second: In case you use a bit too much fluid and there is a huge pressure inside the tire, the air will have a way to escape rather than to explode the tire itself. So it makes it safer.. Still, rather try a few times with too little fuel than once with too much..
Explosion depents amount of oxygen in tire. Too much fluid or gas not increase pressure.
@@jarikinnunen1718 Agreed. The most powerful explosion will occur when the air fuel mix is at the correct stoichiometric balance. For example, if you were using hydrogen, you would want 2 molecules of H2 for every single O2. 2 H2 + 1 O2 = 2 H2O. No one would use hydrogen, but the equation is the easiest. So putting in too much fuel or not enough fuel and having your ratio wrong tends to result in a slow burn instead of a fast explosion, theoretically less dangerous from an explosion standpoint, but more dangerous from a fire standpoint since it could burn for some time possibly setting something else on fire.
I did it with the Schrader valve off and I have no regrets. I saw that one video where dude leaves it in and keeps air on it, and it sucked in the tire as much as mine swelled.
I didn't even use air, just spray and light with the valve wide open.
I always knew fire solved everything
Can fire solve world hunger?
@@kakikencing8390
Welp. world hunger means people need food, right? Food is cooked, in order to cook you need... fire
Fire = Thanos, there's your answer
great
What about nuclear fire?
Viral? this method is as old as.... tires. It only works as an emergency method if you also have a ready source of pressurized air since the tire will likely pop back off its bead from the vacuum that develops. Also, they were using starter fluid not lighter fluid. Lighter fluid works, but is more critical to the air/fuel mix.
BeeP Official I know what viral is, just didn't realize people hadn't known about this. But I've owned 4x4s my whole life, so it may not be something car people are familiar with.
Known and old things go viral all the time. Every couple of months, there's a 80s or 90s clip or video that suddenly becomes popular if placed in the right context. This is no different.
Just something trendy to get views
Nicholas Scott v.
Stfu
I used this method for numerous years being a truck and trailer mechanic. I passed it on to my sons breaking down and mounting tires in my driveway. At first they thought I was crazy until they saw the results. Best trick i was ever taught and passed on
Had a tech do that, but he used way too much fluid. It caught the inside of the tire on fire just long enough to blow out after about 2 hours of driving. I had his boss look at the tire, which was MELTED inside. I got a new tire out of the deal and they don't do that any more.
That's the whole problem with using this.
No fire will burn inside a inflated tire! Fire needs oxygen!
@@benreed4918 the air has oxygen. Then when you start adding air you are adding oxygen. It can keep burning
@@Bryan-Hensley true!
@@benreed4918 I've learned this the hard way. I used to have flats on our riding mower when I was young and I would do this to re seat the tire. The rim was wider than the tire so it was almost impossible to reseat without taking to a shop or this. But I burned one through using gas, which I shouldn't have used, but I was about 7 then.
"A tyre will be impossible to inflate until both beads are set..."
What a load of bollocks.
The inflation process is what is used to seat most beads.
yes you are right but the conditions must be exact at a high level of are so that you could inflated using it that's why we Mount are tires with special machines but if for any reason your bead gets knocked out while driving and you try to inflate it will be impossible because the bead is not properly seated
Shhh, dont tell the experts in the comments common sense
@@bryantzerrato8255 We mount the tyre with special machines but we still inflate them with a standard airline. Very few passenger tyre beads need any extra help seating.
If your tyre happened to come unseated while on the car and suffered no damage you could happily seat it with a standard airline without removing it from the car.
Brem as a young guy that pretty new that meaning about 9 months I can fully back you up on that because of where I worked we had an agreement that the youngest person worked the tire machine and Indeed the machine itself is specialized to the process of removing and mounting tires but after the tire has been loosely fitter on the rim it doesn’t matter really matter what you use to set it fully as long as it’s some sort of compressor even truck tires don’t much more that’s why most tire machines are made so that if you press a bit harder on the pedal for the air it will send air out at each of the claws to give it a bit more umf when seating it I’ve mounted 100 of tires by now even as big as front wheel of a tractor and as long as you know how to force the air in you won’t need fire for any part of the process if you are in an equipped workshop and there is probably a good reason why it’s not the standard thing to do taking that even without fire there are hazards when inflating a non seated tire if you don’t keep track of where your fingers are and trust me I’ve seen it ones where a dude got his fingers stuck between the tire and rim and that shit both looked and sounded like it hurt like hell
Bryant Zerrato i thought i was having a stroke while reading this
Any other car guy just see this in their recommended 😂
lol i was lookin at stuff about putting 305s on and boom this popped up lol giving me ideas 🤔
I like that I saw the video, now I can mount tires myself 😂😁
Shit, I just exploded a tire on a rim yesterday.
Lighter fluid is never used it does not burn fast enough most of the time its brake clean or carb cleaner if the guy with the little stubby can was using a cintas Airfreshner
We used to use gasoline then threw a match at it
I was always afraid my father would get his fingers caught when the tire exploded
Some guys use thier torches , same idea just different fuel source, myself I'm faint hearted and was sure glad when power blasters first came upon the scene .
I've always used starting fluid.
@@daltonbrink9924 that worked good
Instructions not clear, djck is now charred.
😂😂
This is not the standard this is old school you'll think it's cool till that time blows up and splits your hand in half iv seen it in person so keep in mind there is a reason we don't do this anymore
Well you can always expand the liquid trail wick and move out far away or hide behind something before it expands. Also how would this kind of a controlled explosion blow your hands off? Doesn't seem likely at all.
Didn't say blow your hand off I said split your hand if it blows. anyways if the side wall is weak it can pop, split ,blow open and if Your not using the long air nozzle when you try to fill it for bead setting that rubber and wires will tear you hand up
person I know was putting air in the tire of his bike something went wrong and the inner tube slipped past the bead and blew up next to his ear he was def for a couple minutes he got lucky his hearing wasnt worse off than what it was
Sahil Pethe how can you hide when you have to get the air to in the tire before the bead falls of the rim
No fire is ever controlled in an open space
Look at this NEW VIRAL TIRE TREND (literally decades old)
oldest trick in the book
tik tok in a nutshell
Sometimes it's the ONLY way to get the tires on the rims properly...
Some rim/tire combinations, often used in Motorsport or tuning scene, won't allow your mechanic a normal procedure
I've been back working on truck tires for 4 years. Haven't run into a single tire I couldn't air up yet. Used ether(starting fluid) regularly way back in the 80's. I'd get fired for it now lol.
That’s lit...
literally...
Heheehe *LIT* erally
*Literarily
Yeet
OmegaTryce r/whoosh dumbass
My dad did this in the late 70s to his Mercury Zephyr at the office, blew the door off his office building
Oof sorry to hear that but I'm laughing so hard 😂
Do you know if they used a lot of fluid
1:10 / 3:35 show the most accurate demonstrations.
if you're going to do this - you must realize that almost as quickly as the tire is set on the bead - you must begin pressurizing it or the rapid cooling will vacuum the tire right back off the bead of the wheel.
what if I just take the valve core out, will that work?
People have been doing this for such a long time
Not a car guy. Never knew this until now. Im 29.
It was even done with the early tubeless motorcycle tyres.
Indrid Cold
It was done two weeks after the wheel was invented.
@LeRedFlame Yes, People have been doing this for such a long time......and now we have the guys at Tech Insider (thank you) who explains it for us on TH-cam. How come you didn't do this video....be the guy to explain it to everyone else. Then you could be important and a big shot. But no...it didn't happen. Another missed opportunity in your life. Maybe you can learn from this.
Should I do this with nice tires?
You normally only do this for big tires like semi and construction tires.
@Kenny Argueta Ventura you literally proved his point.... Normally, as in yeah, the one farmer and half a dozen racers that also do it are part of the "unnormal" few that do it.
Great idea. Bigger tires, bigger rims, thicker steel. And when things go bad, much more likely to be lethal. Go for it, Bubba.
3:28 explain it correctly my guy. You need the valve off so it can expel extra pressure and needs to be screwed in after the seal, and filled to the psi needed. This is half ass
Oldest trick in the book
Not as old as tires though, for a long time tubeless didn't existed
Who taught you the trick. Once upon a time....you didn't know it. Someone had to teach it to you. You were the student. A blank slate. How did you feel when you learned how to do this.....because the person who showed you how.....knew more than you. They were smarter than you. Did you feel inadequate? You should.
What do you call this Old Trick Sir? Thanks
This is too amazing. What if the tyre explode?!
I see you everywhere! 😃
Then you got an exploded Tyre😂
Then the mind explodes 🤯
It's not a strong enough explosion, in fact, if you don't start pumping the tyre up with air straight away afterwards, the air inside cools and contracts which sucks the beads off the rim and you must start all over again.
most illegal thing I will see in this year, HOW DO YOU ONLY HAVE TWENTY LIKES MY GUY LMAO
I can't wait for my next flat tire
Lol
Lol
Your wish would quickly come through if I was your neighbor
Just because your tire is flat doesn't mean your beads are off more than likely your beads are not off so this method won't help you
So is this now a standard practice for auto repair centers?
do you think this will damage the tire in any way?
Naw this is a old school method
Mark Gaming YT2 fire burns the rubber, lowering it's condition. That's why most of these prople go balls to the wall to put the fire out, so it doesn't lower the condition of the tire.
no
In the instagram stories era, this counts as "hardcore" marketing. Most people don't know that this is old-school
This method is near infallible. I have not been do a tyre shop in decades. I have a balancer. I have no need for mounting equipment. I just use the fire method and pop it into place. Not recommended, but one can pop a tyre back on the rim without even taking the wheel off the vehicle using the fire method. It is not often I get to do something constructive and get to use fire at the same time.
As another poster stated, it is Not "impossible" to inflate the tire without it being seated. Just get the beads against the inside shoulder and apply enough air volume. They remove the valve from the tire stem to get maximum pressure to overcome the temporary leakage. Pop! Pop! and it's on. Go by a tire shop and you hear that sound all day long.
I work at a tire shop and I just put air in to seat it.. You can seat most beads with 10psi.
@@D.AverageJoe for real the hardest part is getting the tire on the rim setting the bead is easy
I've only done this once or twice when in a timecrunch or the rims are the OLD split rim style. On a dump truck once, and it was a hell of a lot faster because you leave the wheel bolted to the axle, and just dismount old tire, mount new tire, use this trick to seat bead and inflate. Pretty nifty. Also used starting fluid not lighter fluid.
Why on earth would you do it on an old split rim? They were tube type.
Know a guy who tried kerosene. Melted too much of the tire. And the TPMS.
I've seen it done on trucks with tubeless tyres but never on splits. How's that even possible?
Not all split rim are tube tires... The dump truck i mentioned had split rim and the tire did not have a tube.
@@gagewesterhouse9558 TPMS is probably why you would (or just shouldn't) do this on a modern vehicle tire rim, as most have TPMS (I think in the US, though, TPMS became a requirement on cars at least starting in 2010, so the cost to replace a TPMS transmitter probably costs more or as much as just paying someone to mount it or taking 5-10 minutes and doing this "by hand"). Getting the tire on the rim is probably the hardest part.
Two problems with this. One; fire, as well as the explosion, can damage and/or skew a Tire Pressure Sensor. Two; the fire changes the chemical composition of the bead sealer.
Philippines been doing this since the early 2000's. Nothing new to me
Okay, very usefull information noone asked for
@@degenetron7590 Okay. Very "insightful" reply no-one asked for.
This is the method used by newbies. Real men only use air pressure from them nozzle to get them in place. And it is used in emergency situations where you don't have access to pressurized air.
A new method of burning rubber for those of us who can only afford one tyre.
Who figured this out? It like, "Hey my tire is flat so I'm just going to set it on fire and see what happens.........Oh!"
The originator pieced together what he/she knew about science. That's how inventions work.
This is oldschool now days they use blast air tanks
Stingyman method!
Air blasters to me are worth thier weight in gold.
Great when you've got one, unfortunately I've never had access to one- but only ever needed to do this trick once on a Bobcat tyre. Quick and easy though.
Could have been a short video
Slow mo
A Y could of been a long comment
I've been seeing this done since I was a child (born in 92). How TF is this "becoming viral"?
I used to do it to mount riding mower tires back in the 70s
I still do it from time to time
Wonderful invention. This idea is *spreading on the Internet like fire.*
Imagine what kind of ideas will come in the future.
We might see inventions and ideas that are like magic from our current perspective.
Lol this method isn't new. It's been around for at least 100 years
It's a very old method and I would not recommend people try this who have 0 experience in the field.
It’s not a safe practice but there’s times when it’s the only way to get it done I’ve done it before it works best if you hook up a air chuck first I use starting fluid and not a whole lot
could you please provide an explanation why it isnt safe.
@@jevonmcpherson8054 yes please
Jevon Mcpherson the tire could come apart and do great bodily harm is the worst thing that can go wrong
The ether-and-match trick is a common Third World technique for mounting tires. At tire shops they use a "Cheater" charged with high pressure - a lot safer, but still hard on the EAR DRUMS!
The only way to do this without an explosion is to use a Cheetah, or something that can blast some high pressure air from outside to force the bead to seat, or close to seating.
The temporary high-pressure area pushes the tire bead edge to the rim, and you can then inflate the tire.
Personally ally, I know tire tend to blow out from the sidewalls, and not the tread, which has some serious "beltage."
So, never stand 90° to the tire, always from the tread areas.
Perfectly matching for Tubeless tyres!!!
Method is as old as tires itself. And the video is wrong. The explosion doesn't cause the tire to expand. Rather, the combustion around the bead creates a vacuum pulling the bead over the wheel. Notice how they spray the sidewall of the tire and not in the middle of the barrel. You also dont have to stand by with air. As long as the tire doesn't have a load on it, it'll hold that shape.
That said, this is a dangerous means for installing tires. Yes the fire will damage paint finishes on wheels, but the biggest threat is breaking your fingers. If you use something like match, you'll bring your hand too close to the lip of the wheel. Once the fire catches it's an instant of a second before the sidewall gets flush with the wheel. Your fingers will lose the fight between the rubber and alloy.
I think firemen call it Back Draft Explosion.
Lightning mcqueen shouldve used this in the first movie
sawega binarung **fingers have left the game**
WRONG. You don't need to hurry up and get air in the tire. It will NOT slip back off without air.
Also, simply filling with air is often enough to set the bead. Starter fluid is only for cases when using air doesn't work.
I always use starting fluid and I'm so old that I remember when you could buy regular ether in the aerosol cans. I don't think lighter fluid would be volatile enough to create the explosion needed to seat the beads
WTF, you dont use fire to mount car tyres, you mount the tyre, then seat it by the gaseous expansion...
I hope these people realize this has been going on for a long time. Probably since easily the 40s or 50s where i come from
*_"And, hopefully your first destination isn't a hospital"_*
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Headline: Soy boy discovers tires dont magically mount themselves on a Prius.
Makes a video about it....
chill
LMAO YOU BRACE YOURSELF? 😅😅😅😅
Starting fluid aka ether not lighter fluid
The inner tube has solved this problem. Then tubeless tires reintroduced it. So that Mr. MacGyver can show off.
Dont do this shit
Take it to a shop
15$ to mount
It will damage the bead
You sound like a lame dad
gzruztit jgzods5i
I am a lame dad of 5 and a master tech
You sound like a another idiot
I have never once heard of that damaging beads and I've worked on cars for over ten years now. Just use a ratchet strap around the center of think it'll cause damage with fire.
It doesn’t unless you have a single ply on the sidewall and I haven’t seen one. Also if you have wide wheels and tires that are skinnier than the wheels this is really the only method. Using a beed blaster doesn’t always work. Or when you get trailer tires that are packed tight and the sidewalls are touching each other
@@henrymccomments stop living life in a safety bubble, u sound like my sister boring 😩
Hot wheels in a nutshell.
I've done this dozens of times. The joys of 22x14's and 40x15.50s. The easiest and safest way is to set the tire standing up vertically on it's own and then spray the beads with brake cleaner and pull back maybe 5 feet and use a lighter in front of the brake cleaner spray nozzle itself to act as a small flame thrower and shoot it towards the bead. Works almost every time the first try, and the tire does jump at you nor does the flame.
THANKS !!
Lol "its impossible to get air into it" no its not. You just inflate it kid.
You have to explain this to adults??! Mind Blown!
Personally, I dont like doing tricks like this unless I understand the principal behind it, and more importantly, what can go wrong.
And isnt it more of a deflagration, since the gas expansion is subsonic?
If the tire burn away rapidly, why would anyone use this trick ? They only set in on fire for a short time and Tires is thick, like real thick
Not enough heat is transferred to the tire material in the short time to let it ignite.
On the other hand if the tire was shredded up in fine bits, and then heated, it would possibly light on fire.
Personally, id be concerned if there were solvents in the fluid that might degrade the materials over time. Not every ignitable fluid would be good for the job, but in a pinch, beggars cant be choosers.
This is so beautiful, priceless, beatific, heartening, humbling, encouraging, precious, and inspiring! My body's riotously convulsing and I'm crying from everlasting joy as I type this at 47 WPM!
Mom: *don't play with firm son*
TH-cam Algorithm: *hold my beer*
This method was first popularized by top Gear on their polar special back in 2007. It is one of the many tricks the Icelandic mechanics used to keep their car going till the north pole.
A shame you didn't properly explain WHY the bead won't seat.
Diagram at 1:30 is not accurate, need to draw it super loose eg a 1 inch gap.
The tyre drawn will easily seat with normal air pressure /tyre lube.
99% tyres mount quite easily.
A 1cm gap is not much problem, remove the valve, bounce on the floor + air does the trick.
Failing that the bead seating tools rubber rings, high pressure cylinders etc.
These other tools mean the ignition system is for cowboys only, cos who knows what pressure you got in there.
I'm just gutted your diagram is wrong
song name at end?
This please. Anyone?
.
Pls, we need it
This is how Mexicans came out with this method of mounting their tires
Done this a thousand times only lost my eye brows once lol
How
MeMefied Cheese the flame probably hit his eye brows and burned them of
You DONT use lighter fluid to do it, you use ether (starting fluid).
🔵 It's important to realize that if you use this method whatever amount of flammable solvent that is left trapped in the tire will accelerate the deterioration of the tire internally a good deal faster than atmospheric air, and can certainly compromise the Integrity of the tire over a MUCH shorter time.
The problem is that there is often not enough oxygen inside the tire to fully combust the fuel. When additional,air is added to the tire you have a combustible mixture inside the tire that can,detonate in high temperature.
I use brake cleaner.
works just fine!
can you use Gumout carb cleaner to do this, Just curious
Starter Fluid is used not lighter fluid
As a kid I remember my dad taking our car to a one-handed mechanic ....maybe this is why LOL!💣💥💥💥
0:50 "let me just kick out this fire"
In case someone out there wondering if this will work for popping out dents. It will only work if your windows are rolled up.
If you take this seriously you deserve what will follow.
"This is also known as an explosion"
You don't use "lighter fluid." It's STARTING FLUID. Carburetor cleaner will also work. Anything volatile that will flash with an ignition source. Just have half a clue as to HOW MUCH to use! An exploding tire can blind, maim, or kill you. It's happened. One common cause is mounting 16.5 in tires [what brainiac came up with THAT idea?] on 16" rims.
I wish i would catch my mechanic doing that shit to my car.
Nice rack
Osha approved!
I did it in the 70's, it's not new.
There are a lot idiots, must use a minimum amaunt of liquid to guey a small explosion not a fire that hurts you, or you tire.
They are NOT setting the tire on fire.
None of the tires were even close to burning.
Finally some one says it lol
Ah, it's just like that one song by Coda
2:19 Google the word askew
Kostas P. Askew me?
@@stevethea5250 ...
Ah wtf. Why did they change it? Tilt was better
Kostas P. Ahahahhaha i was pretty sure i knew what it meant and i was right but that was unexpected
Thank you for sharing this information!! Always fun to learn something you didn't know about♡♡
Ill just stick with a bead blaster. I see my survival odds improving
gotta say I've know about this method for almost 30yrs... gawd damn I'm old .. but yea my uncle taught me that one when I was like 8 at his tire shop... I thought it was a Mexican thing lmao
Just don’t buy a car, easy
I`m about to try this on my lawnmower....... Wish me luck!
Whoa, i thought car tires were like bicycle tires.
They were in the past
They are.
they were in the past(2)
Brem I don’t know of a single modern car that uses tubes in their tires
@@Tjspycorp But there are plenty of tubeless bike tyres these days.
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the tires doesn't have interior?
that's what im thinking- if they did that -isn't it the interior would also get burn?
what do you mean interior? you mean tube?
i think thats a different type of tire because the one the i usually recognize is the one with donut shaped rubber inside called interior, but that one doesn't have an interior inside, the tire is the one containing the air, i saw that kind of tire once
This is for tubeless tire bud. if it got a tube inside, it'll sit on its own when you fill it.
@@jhayar15 Its called a tube lmao
Its not lighter fluid, its ether aka stater fluid.
Kenneth Sims that’s what happen when uneducated people try to educate people on subjects they k ow nothing about!!!!😂 like to see a video of them using
lighter fluid. I’m guessing it probably starts the rubber on fire since it doesn’t burn rapidly.
GTA V in a nutshell
That’s how my nearest tire shop burned down
First to comment
Wow no way
LoL!! I have done this hundreds of times, I even had to do with a set of runflat tires that i put on a crown Victoria nonpolice vehicle.
The tire only loses air if tire is tubeless ..otherwise it's fine
This is why You Get Woman only Insurance ......
I thought this was common knowledge. It's really old method.
And they don't use lighter fluid
Gustavo Gutierrez, what do they use if it’s not lighter fluid?
Starting fluid
Puts out burning tire with extinguisher... tire flies right off the rim again.
...sigh!