Making a miniatures games from 1 box!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- Since I continually reference the name incorrectly in this video, what should it be called?! haha, Convict Combat? Or Combat Convicts?
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Version 2 is live!! There are a ton of new changes that I think you will really enjoy. If you are reading this, check the link in the description to get down!
Thank you so much for showing love on the video and for the game ya'll!! I've been writing like a mad man on the document and creating play aids and other things. The rules and documents are in a really good place right now, so if you're wanting to play / playtest get up in there!!
Malev, this is an evergreen video. I'm gonna come back to this again and again for inspiration. Thanks for sharing the files, too.
Yoo Joe, thanks my friend for the kind words. I really hope so! I already have plans to implement on the next video and I'm very excited about it.
Loved this video! for many reasons, its so well done, love the concept of this game...and thirdly you've sold me on the Cannon Fodder with your paint jobs, i wasn't massively taken with them...until now!
Nice job bud
Peachy! Big love my man, so humbled and stoked to have your eyes and words on my video!
Yo for real though, this same game concept and idea, BUT - instead of 5 convicts, you have
1 Bames Jond figure you place in the center, and in each corner you place a bad guy goon! Instead of gritty prison battles it can turn into that James Bond Spy fi game you mentioned sometime ago! Man I wanna try that now.
Lets make a game man.
@@malevminipainting4453ok now I want a (legally distinct) Goldeneye007 multiplayer miniatures game
Ok, one more. I'd love to see what you could do with a box of Frostgrave Gnolls. Specifically gnolls because I love those little dog men.
Ohhh snap. Word, the local shop has a few boxes actually. I've always liked them and was going to snag them eventually because of Rangers of Shadow Deep. I can think of a few concepts really quickly off the top with only Gnolls that could be interesting...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
& Kobolds 😁
Saw the dude on my feed. Nerd stuff ok I’m a war gamer too time to check out his video.
Got some incense and a smooth voice. Ok this dude is cool, I feel like there’s more to him.
Watch the fly painting and following his train of thought. Cool idea for a game.
Dude starts rapping. I knew it! Subscribed for more nerd hip hop goodness.
Big love my friend, I appreciate you sticking with me through the vid! More mini music vids and rapping shall certainly occur lmao
Was not expecting to hear a rap featuring the phrase "Wargames Atlantic". :)
Awesome creativity! Love the 'one box' concept. Wargames Atlantic has quite a few sets that could work for this... I could see some kind of melee tournament game coming out of their new Foot Knights box.
Also, your FLGS rules! What a great minis selection.
Love getting the walkthrough of your process the whole way, especially how leaning into the constraints you’ve set for yourself helps guide things. Casual mid-vid flow break is 💯
Yooo, thank you my friend, I'm really pleased that you dig it. I'm already thinking of how to make the next one better and more informative, and I'm also excited to show off some cool mats too ya know.
Man, I love your energy. I definitely think we're in a golden age of mini wargaming. I look forward to giving this a try. Thanks for the look behind the curtain.
Thank you my friend, I'm really glad that you enjoyed it! We certainly are. It's very cool to see so many fresh ideas coming out, and miniatures too!
This was cool to see! Thank you for sharing a bit of your process in game design!
Big love my man. People like you remind me of why it's so great doing this. Can't wait to hang out again
You have really nailed the sound quality in this video, very easy listening.
On the thought of 1 box games is a great one for me, e.g. the dwarf blood bowl team was incredibly tempting for me because I knew i would only need to paint 12 models and be "done". Very satisfying and allows me to enjoy the detail and get to play quickly.
Ah! Thank you for that man, I was stressing over the sound quality in parts haha. Learned a lot making this. Next one going to be even better!
What a great idea for a game, Malev! Yet another banger.
yoo thank you srq! I can't stop the dang things, they just keep falling out!
It kind of goes against the one box theme, but you can expand the weapon/equipment options with the other Cannon Fodder box, which has a different special weapon, and the the Wargames Atlantic Accessory Sprue which has shotguns and laser guns on it that all go well with the Fodder.
Cheers friend. I came home with that accessory sprue from the flgs last night! I'm totally thinking of implementing some rules for it in the game! It has some fun bits on it.
Love this video, both how to design a game and also a view in your own mind! Awesome content, thanks Malev :)
So kind Alice, thank you! I am really pleased to have your eyes on the project.
Awesome - great work! I have some Cannon Fodder minis and an Underhive box sat gathering dust. This looks like an amazing way to get some gaming out of them. Looking forward to giving this one a go
Thank you! That's what I'm talking about. You could be blasting by tonight! The document I feel is in a really good place.
Game design is not an arcane art, anyone can do it. This is what gaming should be. The indies and the DIYers are really the true spirit of gaming. Look up old names like Featherstone, Bath, Hyde, Conliff, Morschauser, not only did they write rules, they wrote about how to make your own rules.
Here on YT the British Pathe' series has several old newsreels on people doing exactly what is being done in this video.
This stuff needs to be where people go, 40k is not accessible, one box and a few quickly jotted notes to agreed upon parameters and you have a game.
#accessingaming
Thank you so much for the insightful comment my man, yes! I will absolutely dig into what you've suggested, I'm unfamiliar with most you've mentioned.
Hear hear!
This was my early gamer life, English magazines with one-shot/scenario rules in each issue that my mates and I would hack to let us play a different way. Cardboard counters and hand-written rules of our own devising - gamers free and in control of our own experience.
I slipped out of that life for a couple of decades, lured by the pretty models and glossy propaganda and product catalogue James Workshop dangled before me - but I'm returning to my game-punk roots now, rediscovering the joys of making stuff with my hands and what passes for my brain.
Long live open-source, support the indies, and just make your own stuff!
Big ups my man, I am right there with you!
i love making homemade games. ive been working on one for a while now. turning a PS2 game into a board game.
Oh? What ps2 game are you turning into a board game??
My man! This was absolutely fantastic. Big love, homie!!
So stoked to have your eyes and words on the video my man, thank you!!
I've had the kit for a while.... I want to make a team themed around Slipknot. Will be kit bashing with other kits to get more variety...
Really cool to basically see you come up with a whole game out of a single box. The rules seem really cool!
Ha! That sounds like a fun lil kitbash project. And, thank you my man! I think the game is at a good spot right now, if you want to build 5 and give it a try!
Inspirational stuff! Cheers Malev!
Pets, thank you my friend, glad you enjoyed it!
After watching this, your passion for coming up with "simple" table top games that can work from a single box of models is really inspiring me to 1. Try the game out with some of my Kroot Kill Team Models. Maybe something like a training regime for them during their downtime. 2. You've really inspired my to actually look at my models in a new light and to try and build some games with a more limited material set! Thanks for the great vid, new subscriber right there
Thanks so much my friend. I am stoked you are inspired!! For a Kroot Box, you know what sounds neat? a group of kroot trying to take out a spread out group of guards at the same time. It's essentially a mini game about taking the guards out stealthily. That sounds fun!
LOVE this Vid Malev. Much love
Big love Tred for always rocking with me.
Love this! Great way to describe the whole process!
Thank you my friends! I am absolutely looking forward to sharing more painting content on the channel featuring the paints!
Love the idea of 5 minis and small arena, too few well thought out games like that. I like the premise of arena shooters and the piles you set up.
Thanks my friend for the kind comment, I'm pleased you dig the concept!
@@malevminipainting4453 I'm thinking of making a game like this. I think commercial Wargames are escalating when it comes to cost, amount of work, units and terrain etc. Not every one has the amount of disposable income + free time to paint 90 minis, build a 4x4 foot terrain set and has a friend circle of 6 people for each faction.
I the concept is solid. You have to use the terrain and perks strategically to defeat the opponent. Trying to avoid a fair playing ground. But you also have to balance out for the opponent once you get a perk or bonus, maybe some sort of "commando point" or simply having to remain a complete turn on the perk to get it etc.
I am totally with you there. That's honestly the main driving force for me to make miniatures gams that are played primarily solo!
@@malevminipainting4453 "driving force for me to make miniatures gams that are played primarily solo!"
That's why I got myself into Five Parsecs From Home. It's a neat concept, I also liked that you played around 6 vs 6. But the table heavy outside skirmish game kind of demotivated me. He should have made a small board game overworld or space travel like in Faster Than Light (the Indie Game) or in Fallout the BoardGame with the HexGrid, but fights are skirmishes.
Thinking about modelling something like this myself.
I also started developing my own battle royale themed game using these miniatures. Started on it a few weeks ago. Really cool to see what youve made. My game is simpler, more board game style than skirmish game.
My game features item pickups, so I assembled the miniatures without any weapons. Some of them look good, but others have odd posing where its obvious that a hand is supposed to be holding a weapon. Originally I wanted to magnetize weapon arms, but it ended up being more effort than it was worth at that small size.
That's awesome my friend, it says something about this kit that its' inspiring in such a similar way. I feel it though, the trade off for painting miniatures with the weapons attached is that you have to paint more! With the expansion weapons for the game now, it's actually a total of 13 models!
You are so damn creative.
Big love my man. We gotta keep things fluid, you know how it go!
Not going to lie Malev, I've been toying with designing a small skirmish game myself and I found this video super helpful. Thank you!
Cheers! Stoked to hear that. Check out the worksheet too and let me know if that is any use? I plan to try and make it better and better.
@@malevminipainting4453 Yeah absolutely, the worksheet is useful. It helps with getting the story straight before you start. I've got it on my desktop partially filled out!
From the one box concept, my immediate thought was the Wargames Atlantic Foot Knights from the Age of Chivalry range. Something about either a historical melee, which was basically just a crap-ton of knights in an enclosed space duking it out for sport, or something like Dark Souls PVP, where positioning for backstabs, timing of attacks and blocks, dodging, parries, and the like is key. First video I see, and a great first impression.
Ayyyyyyyy, big love my friend. Can I just say that I have already purchased and built that Foot Knights kit! haha, great minds think alike. I'm excited to show off more about that project. ;)
The gradient on the orange fatigues are really nice, Malev
yoo, big thank you my man! After painting them, I really appreciated them a lot more.
Cannon Fodder is such a good kit.
nah for real real, I slept on it in the beginning but now I have a lot of ides to use them for!
Yo, bro, just when things were getting slow, you hit us with that flow, and it made the video go!
Ah! Thank you my man, so stoked you feel that way about it. I've always struggled to mix the music and the minis in a harmonious way without it being corny, lol, but I just think i gotta embrace the sillyness.
I liked the video immediately out of habit but I kept reaching for the like button over and over. Great video, equal parts entertaining and informative.
What a great habit to have. Thanks so much for checking it out Dark!
Amazing vid! Always cool to see the behind the scenes work that goes into game design!
Thanks Michael! I'm glad that you enjoyed it, I aim to make another one similar, but more comprehensive too!
Loved the video, boss! Been a long time since I've seen something this new/refreshing. Instant sub.
Cheers my man, so pleased to hear that. Thank you for watchin it! More like it incoming.
When building my box I had a similar concept. However using the fistful of lead concept. Also pitting teams against aliens, robots in some sort of future arena setting. I like this too!
One thing I added was that every model had limited ammo, 3 shots for every model. The models would have to find ammo crates to reload.
Oh!? Fist Full of Lead, I'm not familiar. In this game if you or the enemies roll a 1 when shooting, you run out of ammo and have to reload. And, pitting them against space aliens! That's too cool of an idea to pass up.
Yes! It makes you strategize and think about your shots or areas you fight over, if there are ammo crates
Really nice video! Really nice ideas!!!
Thank you my friend, I appreciate you watching it!
This is awesome. Also the rap was fire.
Big love! I'm glad you was feeling it!
Man, I want a 'Malev Reads' video. Dude's got the smoothest voice.
@@AnhkGuy haha cheers my man!
New to the channel, looks like a fun game, looking forward to try it.
Yess! Thanks for stopping by my friend. The game is fun! I'm making active changes to the document still, but we're getting there
2 things, 1 thanks for sharing the rules. second an easy answer for minis could be a bag of plastic army men. Old school and rebel against the juggernaut of the "GW" man.
Cheers! I'm actually kinda interested in making something with Army mens
First time seeing one of your videos - great stuff! This kind of thing is exactly my jam. Maybe throw some Running Man/American Gladiators nonsense in for additional spice 🤔
OH SNAP. American Gladiator style death contest, now we're talking! I can see in between 'rounds' of this game, the convict has to just for entertainment purposes also navigate a deadly obstacle course to get to the next arena. Lmao I think we got something here
@@malevminipainting4453 YES! And "entertainment" makes me think of a popularity mechanic that can give the convict improved starting gear or in-round bonuses. Because I love campaign mechanics 😆
Ohhhh!! Haha that is way fun. There is a part of the game round where I am thinking there could be a whole 'arena event' table that has a lot of different options happen. Crowd favorites and return stars seems pretty fun to mess about with!
This is such a cool concept and excellent execution. Great work on the video too!
Yes brother, so excited for what we're working on together! They don't even be knowin.
Very cool. Great paint jobs :)
Thank you!
Great paint job, great vibe, and refreshing DIY content. Instant sub
Ah big love my friend. Stoked that you enjoyed it!
Thank you my friend, really pleased that you enjoyed it! More like it incoming
Hell yeah man. Excited to see more! I enjoyed the surprise music video as well. haha :)
Thank you my friend, I'm so pleased you liked the mini music vid haha, I certainly want to include the music in more fun ways in the future.
Love your games malev!!! You’re at the level with frostgrave, silver bayonet, deth wizards type games. If it’s got your name on it, I’m getting it.
My man. Thank you so much, what a legend. Stoked to have you in my corner!
Super cool man! I love small skirmish type wargames. Been using one hour skirmish games that uses a deck of cards and it’s a lot of fun!
Ohh! I have to peep that, I'm always interested in the way games use cards. Thank you for checkin the vid out my friend!
definitely fuel for inspiration! nice work. Also bars
Ah, I love to read it. Thanks my friend for checking it out!
I look forward to more videos from you 👍👍
Cheers my man, I'm looking forward to dropping more!
I would make things more free form. Action points rather than actions. It's small scale, you can crank up the flexibility, while remaining "low rules".
Oh! I'm all ears. Would that mean we'd have to change the actions being tied to dice? Or do you mean perhaps that certain actions should cost different action points costs?
@@malevminipainting4453 actions being tied to dice. hm, that would be an interesting concept. I am making my own ruleset to play with my niece and nephew. It uses action points as dice pool, each action point is either die or an inch movement. The skill + weapon describes dice or limit of dice you have/can take out the action pool. I have a free form magic system that works with limits. etc.
@@malevminipainting4453 mana, endurance/action points could be a dice pool limit.
What I'm also looking at for a wargame is D20 and default Target Value is 10 (50% chance), from there on things can be modded up and down, skills and obstacles, resistance etc. If the opponent rolls an opposed roll, you roll against their skill+bonus+mods etc. But you can't do "action points = amount of dice (including damage cap".
That sounds really cool! And, I am also pretty keen on using the d20 in a design sometime. I'm sooo not used to the swing of a d20 every time I use one it can feel like I roll low for agesss
@@malevminipainting4453 "I'm sooo not used to the swing of a d20 every time I use one it can feel like I roll low for agesss"
Yeah D20 can become swingy, because of the random range. But you can balance it out properly so mods and skill play a bigger roll.
Love this idea. I created by havnt play tested a game using Green arm men, cards, and dice. My goal is you can go get the stuff you need from Dollar Tree or a similar for super cheap.
You're 100% right, bruddah. Smaller games for me are better. I'm really digging how your brain works. Now I'm all excited for this. The Malev-iverse is a brilliant place to play in. Thanks for the drop.
Thank you for the kind words my friend, I really appreciate it! Really pleased to have you. I have so much more to share!
Wow I can't believe you rapped in the middle of your video about miniatures and stuff
You would
Just watching this, I thought of a few things that could be added for more flavor to the game:
The nonplayer convicts could have different stats/rules (like one change or extra rule, two at the most) based on what they are in for (like a hitman being better at shooting, a gang inforcer being better at melee, a drug addict thats had his brain fried by whatever superdrug is around having no sense of selfpresurvation, and some guy in for tax fraud illsuited for combat)
A five level campain that goes from minimium security (tax fraud type guys) to supermax (super dangerous and capiable opponits) in a bid for your freedom (rolling on different tables for each level)
A bit of a lore idea here: not only are your fighting for your freedom, but also your individual identity. All of which was striped from you on incarseration. Name, race, face, all removed, a number is all you are now. You are not even classed as human anymore.
I can expand on these ideas more, if interested.
PHIL MY MAN. You're in the zone. You get it. So hyped reading your words, and funnily enough so much of your thoughts align with mine and the first update for the game is dropping tomorrow and has a lot of those features! I wrote a bit about it on my Patreon, it's a free post if you wanna peep.
I appreciate the comment, hell yeah expand on them joints
This is cool man
Thank you my friend, I'm glad you dig!
so glad I stumbled upon this. my exact mindset for gaming here :0 (also the name 'Convict Carnage' sounds pretty cool if you ask me)
I'm glad you did too Oscar, thank you for checking it out! Also, YES Convict Carnage does sound good. Perhaps that could be an expansion ha
@@malevminipainting4453 that could be the name for a multiplayer expansion
Didnt expect some old school hip hop beats and freestyle. 💯 even though i havnt played a game with my minis other than DnD, i hope i will someday. Currently working on Wargame Atlantic's Einherjar aka space dwarves.
Big love my friend! I am pleased you enjoyed it. 🙌 That Einherjar kit is pretty interesting, another one I've overlooked
I am using a Genestealer Neophyte group to play with a lasgun as the pickup weapon.
Yess, it looks SO COOL. Do you think you could make a more 'orange tinted' version of the walls?? I'd love to download and make some of my own with your stuff.
Easy sub, dude! 🎉
Thank you my man! I really appreciate the support.
So, Frag from Steve Jackson Games?
great idea
Holy smokes! I've never seen that. It's so sick. That's also hilarious considering the conversation I was having with the CEO of Steve Jackson games this morning!
Objective Crates: Roll a d6: 4-6 = Plasma Gun ; 1-3 Boom Bye Bye 😜
haha that sounds like a fun additional room mode, you have max items in the arena (3), but on the roll of a one it was actually a box of mines. Whoops
Crist i cringed when the rap started..... but is was not bad.... not a fan of rap, but hey. Working on hartbraker-rules myself but this was useful, inspirational & fun!!!¡
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I appreciate you sticking through it with me my man. I have some ideas on how to include things like that in a less .. uh, we'll say in a less jarring way! ha.
@@malevminipainting4453 næææh... i love it. Be creative in every way. Feed on one hobby to fule another. Sometimes when im tired of painting i play some musik & write some songs.
I loved the video!! I've been thinking in a dueling game, for ages but I can't make it work out... hope some of your ideas help me
Oh?! Big love my friend for checking it out. I really hope so too! I've already received some feed back that I wish to implement to be way more instructional and intentional in the actual design of *your* game. Perhaps a dueling game could serve as a good nut to try and crack?
@malevminipainting4453 if you're looking for play testers just let me know ;)
My mans always on the move and always letting you know his next move 🫶🏽
Haha big love my man!
Sorry mate, but 7 minutes in and I think you have missed the point. 1. Any table top game can be exciting if its genre fits your desire for the game. At the moment I am building to enact a battle where Mongols meet US Marines. 2. You seem to be into skirmish combats at the moment on a very small scale. Have you thought of D&D where one on one combats are a thing as adventurers seek fame and fortune. You could get this in the board games that involve figures. 3. You can reduce any combat system to a smaller combat scenario. Playing Dystopian Wars we reduced the combat down to two capital ships where the engagement took place in some shallows. The ultimate manoeuvre pinned one on some rocks leading to crippling damage.
The point I am trying to make is there is nothing wrong with being creative. It exercises the mind and introduces new themes to people. But the inferences I was getting from your presentation was that big battles were old hat. If I am wrong my apologies, but I just played in a big game which involved about 30 people in a WW2 Normandy operation. It was fun, fast and resulted in unexpected outcomes. Just saying. Big or small it is the fun of the game that is important.
Cheers my man, I appreciate the thoughtful and insightful comment! I am not sure where I miscommunicated persay, because your comment reads very in support of the things in which I'm talking about. The point that I'm trying to make is also that there is nothing wrong with being creative, and that we can play/make our *own* games however we'd like!
You're not wrong though, I do like smaller scale miniatures games. But I like to design miniatures solo games. And that being the case, painting up 50+ miniatures isn't going to help. But I don't have anything *against* other designs or desires, just have a preference for what I personally go for in my solo designs.
I'd love to design a mass combat big battle game.
Great video! This looks like an interesting and easily accessible game. I've been wanting to try war gaming, but the entry cost of Warhammer has always been too high.
Yoo, thank you my friend! You've really inspired me with this comment to make other tokens, that which are labeled as convicts and things so that you can simply play this game with token pieces if that's preferred. No purchasing of miniatures is really a requirement!
Bloody great video mate!
Title drew me in with promises of DIY minimalist design, and you delivered. And just when I'm getting in the groove - "record_needle_scratch.wav" - I find myself in another groove.
Dope.
Anyway, I love this concept - it poked my brain in just the right way to inspire some ideas of my own.
In a world where it feels like we can have anything at the touch of a button, it's healthy to be reminded of just how powerful constraints and limitations can be as a tool for unlocking creative pathways.
Legendary comment my friend, thanks so much! I am really pleased to hear it. Working with the limitations is a form of 'going with the flow' and it can be really rewarding.