Samsung Display launch the 2nd Generation of QD OLED at CES 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ม.ค. 2023
- Samsung display launched the 2nd generation of QD-OLED at CES and we spoke at length with Chirag C Shah about what is new for 2023 and the performance improvements introduced.
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77” here we come. Love as well the panel is super flat finally and will come with connect box! Finally. I won’t even despair about Dolby Vision.
Outstanding! It's going to be my pick for 2023.
I have held off on a 4k tv and this is the TV of the future.
2022 was a great year to be an AV enthusiast. I'm glad the momentum gained in 2022 is carrying forward into 2023. There's literally something for everyone: W-OLED with MLA tech; 2nd generation QD-OLED; and Hisense is killing it with the mini LED lineup for those who want bang for the buck and/or traditional LED LCD tech. We've come a long way from the 480i NTSC broadcast that I grew up with! However, I'll always be grateful for the reruns of Star Trek (TOS) on WZTV Fox 17 out of Nashville. 😁😁
Thank you for this video AVFORUMS! It’s great that we’re getting this type of information this year on QD-OLED from Samsung Display.
Absolutely I agree 100pct will bd making day one purchase of the 77 QD- OLED 2nd Gen for sure
They still need to make a 16:9 42 inch qd oled tv. I'm not sure why qd continues to only be ultra wide for the monitor sizes.
Yes, and in 4k 120hz(minimum), with low latency.
Because it is better. I have a 42" c2 and always use in ultrawide mode
they are coming out with a 48 inch monitor
@@donkey3187
this year? no just 49inch super ultrawide ,, i wish regular ultrawide
@@MisterRhul
yes bro but samsung crazy
super ultrawide not regular ultrawide I don't know what's going on in their minds
Thank you, great interview, very informative.
Great video. There were some good questiins here and nice to hear the Samsung guy answer them. First video Ive seen with a Samsung tech guy talking us through whats new so thanks for the video.
A 40/42 inch 16 x 9 second gen QD-Oled would be an instant buy for me. Would love to see a competitor for the smaller C2s and A90k
same here i'm sooo happy for this tech by by lcd and normal OLED
Any chance you can provide us with more information about the New sound bar for 2023 Q990C
Hopefully they worked on their QC and don't release firmware updates that ruin the brightness like they did on the S95B.
Love again the questions. We consumers need more of that to make the right purchase.
Samsung, make a 27-32 inch 240hz monitor and get rid of the curved crap, you already have two of those! :D
Thank you, avforums! :)
Was really hoping someone would come out with mY dream monitor: A qd oled 16:9 48 inch 4K (or maybe standard oled in 6k).
Editing photos would be amazing on that! Here’s hoping for 2024 ces 🤞
Does the qd layer use an actual "blue quantum dot" or does it just let the blue light shine through for the blue part of the rgb subpixel? ... please let me know for all models, just purchased a s95b
Very nice tech upgrade but how about consider to make your TV on screen manual more user friendly ???
Good interview, he didn't really address build quality though. The housing looks slightly thicker this year and it was a good move having the one connect box. Please though Samsung, give us a 5m cable for adequate wall mounting!
Yes, he did. But he spoke for the Samsung Display (panel manufacturer), not Samsung Electronics (tv manufacturer). Two separate entities.
Was there any talk or indication of when Monitors with second gen QD OLED would come. There’s still first gen monitors coming but if second gen could be close.
What does the 2x reliability mean? Why are the panels 2x as reliable? Do you get double the warranty period compared to 2022?
lol..yeah, right
abstruct number. As usual on these cases.
Please Samsung. I want a QD OLED for my bedroom so please give us a 43 to 47 inch.
My dream also hopefully next year 🙏
doubtful
Not happening this year.
Too bad. So I'll just hold on to my disposable cash and hang on to the interest until it does.
@@m4272000 LOL...the interest on that would be next to nothing
The panel still looked somewhat grey? Are there lifted blacks when light shines on the display? Will be interesting to find out in due coarse.
No It didn't
I much prefer grey like the old crts... I hate fake coatings AR that block the real light just to appear black when turned off...
Will there also be 42" QD OLED TVs?
I need a 42 inch so bad for my bedroom, I hope in 2024 my dream comes true!
People may recall that a firmware update dimmed the brightness of the 2022 QD-OLED. The question is; by how much? ... 30%? Like the same as the new 30% brighter 2023 panels? Not sure, but people like myself didn't want to update the TV when they heard that. Lol.
Guess I have to wait... minimum TV size for me will be 88inch or even better 96inh.. then I will get one... hopefully next year then.. 😔
In addition to the improvements and extra size, consumers will also get three options this year for who to buy QD-OLED from. TCL is joining Samsung & Sony in selling a QD-OLED. Which is good because if you like HDR and care about your formats, Samsung and Sony weren't ideal. Samsung doesn't have DV, Sony doesn't have HDR10+. TCL has both.
Where did you hear that? Every Video i watched from the CES about TLC mentioned that there wont be an OLED from TLC this year
@Henry So originally it was reported on by Digital Trends and other outlets that TCL was releasing a QD-OLED in late 2023, but two days later TCL issued a statement to Caleb Denison and others walking that back. No one knows why they changed their plans after only two days. There was mention of an error but what kind of error is that?
The 2022 S95B had a problem, an inaccurate color display issue. The colors were not natural, oversaturated. I haven't heard if this problem has been fixed in 2023. LG don't have this problem.
Waiting for next gen Samsung G8 QD-OLED 34 inch monitor
so calibrated just 1300 nits and after FW updates just the same as 2022 ?!
this ones much brighter than last years
Yes pretty much that’s the biggest problem didn’t mention is the updates going to reduce the brightness that is where Samsung can’t be trusted
And I don’t want to hear about stay offline
@@MrStrictlyOLED The problem is that if you don't update, you may face a burn in issue in the pass of time. They will say "you didn't update, its not our problem". I hope burn in is not an issue with these TVs. But reaching 2x the brightness of TVs of 2-3 years ago is someting to consider, and I have heard no one from sumsung or LG say "we did this or we did that to reduce burn in". I guess new technologies help, but I dont know how much.
@@chaostade4087 your 100pct right I agree
If they come out with 8k I will buy one
8k is totally useless. Eyes can't distinguish anything beyond 4k
I think I want to get the S95C in 77 inch. But I have fomo on Dolby Vision. I have a 51 inch plasma TV with 1080p and no HDR today. Should I consider getting another TV just because of DV? Thanks to the community...
Samsung TV's don't use DV, which is popular on Netflix and other streaming platforms. I think Samsung doesn't want to pay the licensing fee for DV, instead relying on plain HDR, HDR10+ and HLG, which is a shame b/c their display tech is phenomenal. Look for other brands if you want DV.
Thank you guys, I would prefer the Sony, but I think it will be unreasonable expensive...
Despite Samsung not having Dolby Vision, they don’t need it. It’s been shown a million times in side by side comparisons (I have some videos showing this on my channel), no one is loosing anything other than the name as HDR10/10+ is implemented so well on Samsung, it doesn’t matter other than name (the extra metadata with DV convo won’t matter in 99% of scenarios).
@@Cz007_ Dolby Vision is for dv? what is that mean they dont use dv on their tv's? and why is important for steaming platforms like netflix?
Anyone else pissed they nerfed the s95b brightness only to release a new model this year thats brighter?
when are these panels coming out??????
No details on dolby vision support or I missed that?
No Dolby vision it’s Samsung smh
I hope no DV. I want open-source HRD10+ to take off.
@@imagineme69 Dolby Vision is for dv? what is that mean they dont use dv on their tv's? and why is important for steaming platforms like netflix?
So 30% of the most accurate settings after D65 White point adjustment. Probably get around 1300 Nits. Still better than 1000 Nits. But....Samsung has to promise to not lower the brightness back down with a firmware update after people purchase these TVs and also way more accurate colors out of the box. The RED especially was way too saturated. And what I care about is increased APL. Hopefully it'll hit 250 Nits full field brightness because I like to watch Hockey. And so far, oled tech could not pass the Hockey test. Whites always have a bluish hue and sometimes a dim shade of white.
Everything sounds nice but from what I'm hearing the firmware updates for the S95B has ruined the TV and customers are not happy about it.
That's bullshit. The update corrected filmmaker mode, only, to be actually correct. There is no downgrade.
@@MisterRhul Yeah for some it's all about brightness regardless of inaccuracy.
"ruined"? No, nobody is saying that.
@@MisterRhulhis is samsung display though… they make the raw panels . address your complaints to samsung electronics
I hope the 77" prices under $4500
Will I DTM still be on when HGiG is enabled? Give me the option to turn off Samsung’s horrible DTM please!
No questions on how they are combating the burn-in problems? These things are expensive, don't wanna replace mine every 2-3 years.
I’m so frustrated there’s no 83” qd oled this here, I would’ve bought it on D1. I’m still using Samsung’s QN90A from 2021, which I hate because of its local dimming issues especially in game mode, but I’m already at 75” so I’m waiting for at least an 83”. If only LG would have put MLA in the 83” too ☹️ No Tv shopping in 2023 for me unfortunately, no one is giving me what I’m looking for
You're a niche category. If you got the money go for a G3. I dont think you'll reget buying the best TV LG has ever produced.
@@chaostade4087 i would have gone for the 83" G3 if LG didn't cut MLA from it. I'll wait for in depth reviews but it seems like 83" G3 will be mostly a carry over from last year model, and since we're talking about a lot of money here, I'm not ok with this.
Samsung using Sony Triluminos Display branding 3:39.
Thats cool, too bad they arnt making and 40-43 inch screens, big missed opportunity. They can see how many people rave about the LG C2, this would take all their customers.
Can you guys reach out to TCL and ask them about when they'll announce their EU TV line-up?
Did I see that they've added a graphite heatsink to the new models?
that's to do with inside the panel, not a normal heatsink
So confused? This explanation of qd oled not washing out the colors conflicts with Samsung tvs being the only oleds that blow out all detail in bright scenes.
I think Sony Bravia A95L will be a better TV even over LG G2.
No way.
Of course especially if they implement the new pentonic chip,better processing and a more accurate display.
G2 is last years model. A95K was better than it LAST year. So yeah..
G3 will be nice this year, it's on my list. But A95L is likely to beat everything again this year. Sony does color accuracy and image accuracy like no other.
@@loki76 Shame you have to pay such a premium for the Sony models though.....☹️
@@steven2809 True.
Still no Dolby Vision?
Unfortunately, maybe never. What a shame.
this is Samung Display… not Electronics
This is t to je reason why one should not buy a first generation product!
Next year it will be even better with using only one glass substrate and much larger screens please bring 85” and 97” a reasonable prices!
trust samsung ? yea right
And still no DV. No buy for me than
Samsungs not interested in DV...so move on to other brands if thats a deal breaker for you.
@@donkey3187 that’s what I did en will do
There is on Sony. This guy only makes panel what Sony uses.
no dolby vision = no buy.
Just stop faking brightness at CES then nerfing brightness with FORCED updates! I have to keep my $3000USD 65" S95B disconnected from the internet (losing streaming apps) just so I can keep my HDR in gaming.
yeah that is sad and outrageous, you paid for the product and they are manipulating it via fw updates. ridiculous. I think they will keep doing this even in the future, maxed out for the conventions and marketing and afterwards dimming.
So best thing to do the get the a s95b and never plug it to the internet right ? And you should keep the best default software version
Im pretty sure that "WOLED '21 product" at 5:30 is an A1 on the less vivid mode possible...XD
Probably no burn in warranty cover so big pass.
NOTHING in this video has anything to do with the size and availability mentioned in the thumbnail. Congratulation you've just wasted 10 minutes of my time with that clickbait and Samsung ads material.
77 inch is the new size available this year
It quite literally says it at the very beginning. Pay attention.
Except Samsung has trash quality control and I can't be bothered with returning questionable screens. And 77" doesn't mean big to me, 83" is barely big for my TV room
PLEASE BRING BACK 3D TV!!!
To say white oled is racist ! Y'all need to make it brown 🤎😂
No Dts sound, no Dolby vision..... Great for watching only tv
Have you lost your minds?
Why are the UK still following the EU energy consumption? Did we leave or did we not really leave? Also can we get this guy back on camera to explain himself when we get bent panels and when Samsung ruin the TV with the third firmware update?
You need to understand that this is Samsung display, not Samsung electronics. Sony had the same panels but the construction was more rigid, its samsung electronics that didnt payed attention to making a solid TV in that matter, not S.display.
On paper we left the EU. However that obviously wasn't what our leaders wanted so they're still following EU regulations and are apparently planning a Swiss style deal with the EU which would mean accepting all their laws anyway in exchange for free market access.