e140: 1/16 WPL C-24 Toyota Hilux - First Impressions
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Looks good and I can't wait to see it upgrade
Me too!
That's the sound of my RC nightmares lol. Excited to see what you do with this bud. -Omar
they've caught my attention too, Gabriel Silvaz builds and videos are great.
I feel the same way.
Sure are!
Can’t wait to see what you do with this truck.
The paint job should be cool!
Looks like a great base add your own electronics thou definitely.. Looking forward to see you come up with stuff for this!! 😊👍👍
Agreed!
+AMPRO Engineering .... just dropped a longer comment about a possible better shape for a dual geared N20 center casing, maybe right side (for front) angled forward, and left side (for rear) angled back, more in line to the pumpkins, so the shafts and U-joints are half as kinked up. stock are kinda __/^^^ steep!
Ha ha, I’ve been looking forward to your comments when trying out that “servo” (or what it is) :-) Great to see a WPL on your channel, my friend. Looking forward for your next videos with it.
Thank you! The new servo came in and the paint job is nearly complete!
There is a WPL 2-speed transmission with 370 motor available and lots of metal upgrades now.
I have them on the list(!)
Liked and subscribed just for your little moment of weakness with the other body... the temptation was real
Haha! Thanks man
Great Video! Things I've done to my truck? I changed the ESC, the Receiver and the servo. But one thing that is way more interesting is the fact that the kit version comes with some cool "upgrades". It has softer tires, a real steering servo and (at least it feels like) a stronger motor. You should definitely go on thingiverse and check out the available upgrades for the truck. You can find a servo mount or a double motor gearbox f.ex. 😀😀
Wow I will. I did see a 2 speed trans upgrade video but I dont know when the trans if from. Looked like a bolt in.
get a look at that "stronger motor", it's a 2.4v FK-180, too high on the RPM's and prone to getting hot with 6v to 7.4v input. a 12v 5,000 RPM (or less) FK-130 is likely more appropriate for these things. I can only guess WPL heard "more torque" and mistook that for meaning "MORE POWER MORE SPEED!". there are only a couple eBay sellers who fully list input voltage and free spin RPM of their 180 motors, one was about 10k on 24v.
Your videos are awesome. I am really thinking about getting kit c14 to build up with my daughter. I have 1/24 and 1/10 hobby grade RCS but I think my kids works have fun building and modding it
The C14 is a great one. I did a video on basic upgrades that it NEEDS vs what it doesnt.
Lol wow that box was ridiculous brotha! WTH were they thinking?! Did they use the package as a football!? Crazy bro, idk how boxes get that destroyed! Well good to see this new truck from wpl I had the wpl c14 n gave it to my 5yr old niece n back driveshaft was gone in the first two minutes, front wheel drive only,lol! These things r definitely toys, or something cool on the shelf!
there are metal gears and driveshafts available for these now too, the plastic ones will hold up better powered by N20's.
Yeah that's why I don't think they are good for kiddos. I think it is really weak. I also just ordered the metal driveshafts.
my kit arrived yesterday, both axle input shafts, I pulled the bevel gear, slipped the inside bushing out, small washer, then glued the bushing back in standing out about .060". have a pair of long needlenose with one jaw curved, glued/pressed the bevel gear back onto it's spline and the gear mesh is about perfect. much less wiggle on the metal shaft too for the plastic bushings being a little further apart. used thicker black automotive wheel bearing grease instead of what it came with for all of it. also happened to have a 12v FK-130 motor (high torque low RPM) I popped in there for now, free RPM about 1/3 of the 180 motor that came with it, so it's possible I wont have to make a new center section to house a pair of geared N20's that are taking forever to arrive from China.
STEVO D 313 Hahaha 😂😂👍 I had the same experience: My box looked like a football, too....
Great looking RC, can't wait to see what you do with the messy parts 😂
Thanks! I am painting it now.
I got this too. The box was also trashed but it worked. It lasted an hour before nephew stripped the gears.
Yes the stock parts can be questionable.
I enjoy your candid reviews. Thanks! Also, do you know where one might go to have a custom RC body made? I'm OK with the mechanical stuff but the bodies baffle me :-)
Thank you! As for the body I do not know unfortunately.
the KIT version comes with a nice steering servo.
Yeah it isnt too shabby. It really changed the truck.
If the previous trucks are anything to go by, the kit version has a hobby servo, bigger 180 motor and softer tyres.
I'm guessing you're going to go with the dual N20 motors or some other alternative power plant and fit your own servo but it might be worth looking for spare tyres when they hit the online stores, they are MUCH softer. At least that was the case with the other trucks they have put out.
in eBay, look to sellers $1.59 to $44.95, have all the parts, and sell the soft tires about 5 bucks a set. very soft, very sticky. I'm using slightly smaller diameter Subotech foam inserts in them, face still soft about 1/8" depth but takes out a lot of floppy sidewall flex.
Yeah that is the plan. The harder tires are actually perfect for this one as I have other plans for it but man, the electronics are going away!
Do you know where to get the 2 speed trans?
AMPRO Engineering It's literally just hitting the Chinese sites, give it a week or so and it should start showing up on places like ebay, aliexpress, gearbest etc. All the usual suspects.
If you join the Facebook group, the owner of WPL toys is always giving previews of upcoming models and upgrades etc.
He doesn't speak English so you have to use translate but he seems really into RC and listens to the customers.
AMPRO Engineering
www.ebay.com/itm/WPL-Custom-Dual-Motor-Mount-For-B-1-C-14-B-24-C-24-1-16-RC/292590864541?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
it's not the 2 speed trans, it's case for a pair of geared N20's.
if you look through TH-cam videos, someone is referencing files available for 3D printing these things, I just don't have access to a printer here, so I ordered that.
another video pointed out the 2 speed trans is kinda bulky/heavy and hangs down pretty far to get "bonked", and I suspect I'll have to use some thin aluminum to place the dual N20 mount a little lower so U-joints aren't overly kinked/stressed. the dual N20 mounts I'd seen are very high up in the frame and FLAT, where something that hangs down a little bit and places motors in a --\___/-- shape (side view ascii "art" haha) could let both U-joints have less angle on them, for motors output shafts pointing slightly downward (shortening may be required idk).
At the end you are holding a different body to it? What is it from? Do you know any more bodies/brands that can fit the C24?
Yes, the other one is from a Tyco Bandit. I do not know what else can fit though, sorry about that!
Hello Mr. Ampro, another quality video. thank you. i need help and you have the answers i hope. I have this kit version it comes with no ESC TX or RX. But it does come with a motor and a servo. in the kit there is a small diode or resistor. my question is. Where does this resistor go ? Please help Thank you.
Oh that goes on the motor for interference. It goes between the terminals. It is a capacitor. I cant imagine there is anything else electronics wise.
And I have a c14 and I suggest metal drive shafts and soft tires
Thanks! I just ordered all that!
lol aww... the input shaft bushing solution works pretty good. seen videos/reviews of axle bevel gears coming loose too, so they got a little CA before installing and greasing everything up. someone out there making solid aluminum axle casings for these now too, SPENDY!!
3:05 that's why I'm getting the kit version
Yeah....good call.
Cool, I have one of those, except it's sand colored and has a flatbed with a spare on the back.
C14, this C24 with the pickup bed, I couldn't resist ordering the kit version.
Nice, I have that too in red.
wow! Ace Ventura delivered this ?
That sound is not too good, and happy B-day!
Looks like it! Thanks man!
Wow that servo sounds so good I wonder why it's so cheap with that servo. I'm amazed
It is a motor with a gear reduction. I don't know what the deal is.
think I nailed it above, missing a little plastic centrifugal clutch shoe on the motor would sure explain the NOISE and it's inability to turn the wheels worth a darn.... dissect it to see if I'm correct. if so, those steering boxes are inexpensive enough and you can recycle the toy grade guts into something less critical, like a little scratch built RC boat.
Y liked truck good project
Thanks!
WPL-Bandit sounds interesting.
LOL, I know.
Cool if u purchase the kit tires off eBay they are much softer just a tip
I have the kit here also. I was surprised to see that.
AMPRO Engineering yea I have the c14 model
Lol that servo noise tho!
I almost muted the video there!
U should do a upgrade video
I have 5 upgrade vids for this that are in progress! It has been...complicated.
Dimensionally would it be possible to stretch the wheelbase and add a midnight pumpkin body to this chassis? Curious about the width.
Yes, I have developed a chassis for this already. Ill have it up soon. I did this right after the Ampro Lunchbox WPL chassis I made.
@@AMPROEngineering this is exciting
Holy molly, 2:56 that is terrifying, the post-2022 RTRs by WPL had propotional steering and better propotional throttle. This is much worse than my current B-24 and C-24-1.
Yeah this is one of the original WPL cars....man it was rough.
Japanese market cars don’t have rear reflectors. (Side markers) we do in the USA though.
I didn't realize that. So they have front markers or repeaters? I know EU market cars have repeaters in front of the front doors but no side markers.
usually side markers on front fenders side/top depends on car and age. and no reflectors on rear quarters. I haven't looked into it but just type any version car you want on google if its a japan market car it won't have the rear reflectors.
Gotcha. All my interests are in old cars anyways! Haha!
What was that other body you were comparing?
Tyco Bandit.
What’s the approximate length of the original shocks on the c24 thanks?
Well, thats hard to say. Around 60mm but they are not mounted at the top. They are mounted around 35 mm from the base. Weird setup.
No worries, yeah I knew they didn’t mount at the top, I plan to attach a mount on the side of some 65mm oil shocks I’m about to order. I’ll use “Needs it” to attach a M2 washer to the side of the shock after flattening one side of the washer with a file. You can shape it to look like it’s been welded. Thanks for the info.
No problem.
Can you please help me get my c24 running. I have the stock esc and upgraded transmitter with a 2.4 receiver and I can't get it to bind. I've have it for months and it just collects dust.
Hey James, what do you mean upgraded transmitter? I dont think they will run anything but the original parts. I really know nothing about the stock electronics as I pulled them all out.
@@AMPROEngineering well I bought the kit bad not the rtr so I had to buy the stock esc and a receiver. Bought a 2.4 ghz wpl upgraded transmitter off eBay.
@@AMPROEngineering bought the kit and not the rtr. Didn't know the difference and had to buy esc seprately off eBay. Got the wpl brand esc and upgraded transmitter. I got it to bind but nothing works
Jeez I didnt know there was a WPL brand. Here is what I use: www.amazon.com/dp/B00DU49XL0/?coliid=I3MOPRISSJOKRL&colid=12TETB4M0BJVY&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it&pldnSite=1
What steering did you use??
Well I used the stock servo from the C-12 kit and just made all the other bits. You can see this in episode 158.
It's sooo easy to upgrade
I know. What a cool truck
The reason the kit is more expensive is because they put a bigger motor and servo in them. That's why I got the kit. Hopefully I won't have to do much to it
Yes I have now realized that. Amazing how cheap labor is for now in China.
definitely check out Gabriel Silvaz channel, he runs a pair of 12v N20 geared motors in a center section he whipped up. planning on doing same (with 300 RPM N20's) when my kit arrives, and plan to run it on two 14500 (AA) size 3.7v lithium ion cells. they're not as sensitive about being over discharged, a cheap 20A brushed ESC doesn't have an LVC to protect LiPo anyway.... and the two 3.7v AA size ion's will save a bunch of weight.
if the toy version has the hard tires, soft are available under 5 bucks for a set and very worth it! picked up 3 sets of them to mess with on other project ideas, it's easy to make them fit Subotech 1/24 rims, BG1511D is going to get a low RPM higher torque 180 motor, should make a really nice little budget crawler/bouncer for trails. using the smaller diameter subotech foam inserts in the WPL soft tires, nice and squishy about 1/8" and took out a lot of the tires sidewall flex. (the subotech project idea would be right up your alley I'd think)
the N20's cut the speed and weight down for better crawling, the really steady torque also less likely to snap drive shafts and U-joints. also planning a quick/light spray of automotive undercoating so the plastic doesn't CLANK so much, dollar store adhesive backed foam sheeting at body connection points may be possible and help. might also wrap the center of the rims with solder wire, 3 wraps stretched electrical tape over with a smear of CA on the end to keep it locked, it'd help lower the center of gravity and aid some traction is the thought anyway. less weight topside, add a little down low, makes sense to me....
what would be REALLY cool is about 1/4" worth of body lift, about 5/32" more shock travel, and lighter springs to allow a little more+easier suspension articulation. don't want to go TOO far and over stress the 4 rods holding the axles. visually and functionally I'd think that'd be just about right for increasing it's crawling ability, more tire to earth contact.
Thank you for all the info! I will look at his channel. I have the kit version too so I will need to open that and take a look at what tires and servo it comes with. I just printed a mount for a servo I have so we can see if it works.
his running videos, SO show how capable these things can be crawling.
I don't know why the kit is more than the RTR either. Still, this strikes me as a fun/tinker project so I'd probably get the kit anyways and just pick up a micro servo in the process to bypass that horrid one that comes with it anyways.
I have heard the kit comes with some electronics. Labor is disturbingly cheap in china so I can imagine it has to be that.
yes the kit comes with about a 9 gram size servo in it, and the softer tires. mine was missing the strap that holds the servo down in place, but happened to have a screw the right size with a really large flat head on it that pinned it in place really well. the servo comes with grommets and tubes you wont need, put a rubber grommet, then tube, into the steering link top where it meets the servo and a lot of slop goes away
Lol, that steering motor..., frightening huh.
The RTR can still be the cheaper way to go, my C14 was $28 compared to $56 [at the time] for the kit.
On Amazon, I can get 5x SG90 mini servos for $12, the hobby grade servo being the difference of the kit.
Either way you need to supply the hobby grade Receiver, ESC, & battery, which can be had for as low as $19.
They have a metal parts kit which includes gears, bearings, & driveshafts, & they are releasing a 2 spd gearbox.
The cab of the C14 has headlights that match your truck.
yup, they've also released a platform for a pair of N20 motors.
Those are the ones I just ordered! Where did you find the metal parts kit?
i just saw that!
This is what I saw.
I haven't checked eBay or Amazon yet.
www.banggood.com/pt/WPL-Metal-OP-Accessory-For-116-4WD-RC-Car-Parts-p-1296694.html?p=8I15039486406201703V&cur_warehouse=CN
i can't waait for the MODs this will be COOL
Thanks man.
LOL Mine came the same way, but two of the suspension links were broken. They claimed to have no parts, and just offered me a partial refund. Ugh.
No kidding? What parts you need? I am installing metal ones.
ignusfast.com/Home/Gallery#lg=1&slide=34 Both left-side links. Did you find metal ones online?
Yeah I have those on mine. I found a kit with the links, oil filled shocks and something else...i forgot now...they were on ebay. They havent arrived yet.
You got the cheaper version. 130 motor, non proporcional steering and plastic gears drive trains. Is another rtr version for 15 dollars more with 180motor proportional steering and metal drive train
When this was purchased, that is all there was. The one you are talking about is a rather recent addition. I have had this for nearly 4 years but the new ones are awesome.
😲 O that horrid sound like a blender grinding something! Other than that it looks pretty cool!
been inside a few of those bang bang steering crawler "servos", little motor has a simple plastic centrifugal clutch driving its gears, very cheap, some better than others but not much! also, check your hammers video, I stumbled into what might be a gem of an easy little budget project
Its unreal .
gonna guess, it's missing one of it's centrifugal clutch shoes inside.
That's just terrible that steering.at least they should have put in cheap real servos
@@candycolon6397 spur gear slipping
Ouch, I was wearing earphones when you tried to turn it...
Haha! Sorry!
AMPRO Engineering so what’s the wheelbase on this rig? I’m thinking of getting one and replacing the body with a toy Bronco.
outside+outside tire to tire width = 14 cm.
center+center axle to axle = 19 cm for this one.
tire diameter about 65 mm, tire width about 25 mm.
for a bronc or jeep body you might need about 1/12 scale
model nutty Thank you!
That have any problems to turn
No actually. I did replace the driveshaft like I mentioned in the next video but other than that it’s been rocksolid
@@AMPROEngineering ok, i ordered. C24 from amazon
I have the military truck.. it is just as big of a disappointment. will see what I can do about i.
Im working on a mount now.
Gabriel Silvaz channel, he just converted the 6 wheel unit to double rear duallies! 10 tires+rims total now looks SO perfect!!
The kit has better hardware like a 180 motor and servo
I opened mine and saw it! Very cool.
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Hahaha,this is to funny
That's the truth.
Hahaha bad stering sir
Oh yeah
I am so glad I didn't buy one of these trucks please if you were trying to get into a scale crawler don't waste your $40 unless you are ready to spend hundreds of dollars and hours on upgrading this thing. You were better off to get something else honestly save your money and buy a cco1 Tamiya kit you can get one of those for like a hundred thirty bucks sure you need Electronics but they're so much better than this. Pretty much anything is it's just a toy and that's all it ever will be no matter what you do to it unfortunately
Well it cost me around $95 or so to build (including the car) and for me, they are all just toys. I mean I did have the radio already so that is money some would need to spend too. Plus, I wanted something small so it has been an awesome little truck.