**Vol'jin's Story in Shadowlands Continued** Link: th-cam.com/video/IiVdjN9xdsY/w-d-xo.html Hiya folks! This one covers the last part for the 8.1 Horde War Campaign, continuing Vol’jin’s search for who told him to make Sylvanas Warchief. Again, a big thank you to everyone who’s been patient with me on being late with some of these uploads. Although I do wish we could have gone on a nice little questline with Varian on our side. Y’know, because why not? :D Take care folks!
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I mean. It's obviously N'zoth that told him that. And old gods are extremely powerful and smart. Don't you think N'zoth would predict almost everything that could happen. Destroying the world isn't exactly a 1 day job. If they made him know everything when he got resurrected the plot woulf be really weird. Next patch is named wrath of Aszhara so for them to make N'zoth the focus would just be retarded.
Destroying the world isnt N'zoth goal, his main purpose, just like the other old gods, is to corrupt titan world-souls like Azeroth for the voidlords altho i am sure that he also wants to bring back the black empire, especially since he is the last one alive and could rule all by himself
@@iddejonsson4374 yeah destroying the world and end of the world are sometimes taken as literal destruction of the planet when it could just mean end of what we know. I haven't read up on the black empire but from what i gathered it was all about corruption and controlling everything
Yshomatsu the Black Empire. Look at Ahn’Quiraj or Azjol-Nerub. Swarms of the Old God’s monstrosities fighting for power seemingly mindless to thought, or reason. Yet, the swarms are extremely well organized in purpose. Driven by the Old God who is considered the hive mind of the particular swarm in question.
@@TheGreenMarvin Fr, i'm almost certain that a trickster god infiltrated the gaming industry and ruined several companies (Nintendo must be protected by the thousands of japanese gods or smth)
Same goes for the Old Horde characters, Pre-Cata Thrall, Cata Garrosh, Vol'jin, Cairne, I miss them all, and Blizzard got rid of them sadly. That's why I put some stock in Saurfang but I don't see him doing much against Sylvanas' THICC plot armor.
I am just glad they're giving Vol'jin a proper story. When he was Warchief you FORGOT he was warchief until he died in Legion!!! He seriously became WarCheif and than DIED right after! So for him to have closure is nice to see!
Yep, unfortunately his reign began at the end of MoP and into WoD, and WoD was a mess of its own. And by Legion they kill him off so I guess they're trying to make up for it.
I heard that they originally did not intend to kill him off in Legion, as he did not die in the earliest Alphas - but there was too much backlash for Varian dying and not Vol'jin, so they changed it. Big mistake, imho - and I'm an Alliance player.
The leaders and players are aware of him. Not the general public. For Legion it was the Ebon Blade that moved. An Order that was generally known under the leadership of the Death Knight that betrayed the Lich King.
I'm as hardcore ALLIANCE player as there is, but man, I got a ton of love and respect for Vol'Jin. He is just really impossible not to love. He may have not wanted to be WC of the Horde but imo, he was one of the BEST the Horde EVER had. I actually miss him.
Pretty much all of the main OG Horde heroes (Thrall, Cairne, Saurfang, Eitrigg, Vol'jin, etc.) were impossible not to love. In WC3 Thrall and his companions took the Horde from being clownish two-bit villains to a relatable and immensely likeable rag-tag band of misunderstood underdogs. Too bad about what's happened to most of them now...
It's a common theme with the classic characters in Warcraft and WoW, horde or alliance. The way they were developed, voiced, designed, etc. It's a formula that they can't reproduce exactly nowadays. But there's some new characters that are great, but the classics will always be the best simply because of how they were made and developed.
@@Athelarius That's true to an extent - I guess it reflects WC3's tone and storytelling ambitions more than anything - once Alliance and Horde were pitted against one another in WoW for gameplay reasons writing out most of the sensible characters was always going to be a given. What is Thrall doing nowadays anyway? The Thrall from WC3 would never ever let his people suffer under the leadership of Sylvanas.
gah, hardcore alliance player, being half of time online afk jerking of to furry crap, then saying how big of a dick you have when you get 50 alliance players to kill one horde, apparently when hordes know the game better than you only things you alliances throw as an excuses are; "i was lagging" "he has a kickbot" "hes speed hacking" "lol noob your class is broken" "my class is underpowered* "wow sucks" All of those above are main alliance things to say. just accept that anduin is gay and horde is the cooler faction.
Speaking as a /real/ hardcore Hordie; we appreciate your love for Voljin, and I feel the same about Varyian and Anduin. Respect to you and Loktar friend!
He'd have to cancel his Ice Block though. It might have a long cooldown. And after past events he'd probably be careful before he exposes himself to that risk, haha.
I have such a deep love for Vol'jin and have high respects for him. I found it was severely unjust they made him Warchief and then kill him off in Legion, but I am grateful that they are giving him a proper storyline in this expansion. I wish to see more.
Ok since everybody seems completely lost im gonna give you guys a little hint: Whatever it is that put Sylvannas in charge, is something that dosen't want the Void to win. Sylvannas plans are to turn everybody into undead, pretty much Lich King 2.0, and this was clearly stated in the comic "The 3 sisters". And her reazon of why, is because she thinks that, once everybody has ben turned into an undead bound to her will, there will no be wars ever again. Esentialy turning the world into an utopia of peace.... filled with nothing but walking rotting corpses.... If she gets to accomplish this, then the void would have lost, as they can't corrupt undead, or control them. Now, im gonna add some shocking info that MAY hint even further to who is doing this.... One of N'Zoth whispers in the coming patch says: "The light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all" The enemy of all is death, just in case you don't know. In the 3 sisters comic, the void whispers in Alleria's mind went bersek almost... Urging her to kill Sylvannas ASAP and save the world. The void does NOT want Sylvannas alive. "This one is dangerous. She is a threat and must be ended. Beware this one! She seeks the death of all things... all posibilities. End her threat. Murder her, murder her, save yourself, and murder her. Save the world and murder her!"
Excelllent summary. I'm also straying away from N'zoth not only because it's too obvious but because the Void doesn't have much to gain from a servant of Death, as you mentioned earlier. Now I did originally think it was a higher entity from the Void, but you got a point with the quote "The light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all". So maybe the hand of valor Eyir mentioned was indeed the one who whispered Voljin as well? The light made a pact with Death to counter the Void? But I still think those would be separate forces (i.e who whispered and who brought back). Interesting stuff. Thanks again for the summary and insight!
@@Athelarius Whatever did whisper Vol'jin can't be the same that brough him back, as to have him back threatens Sylvannas position as warchief. By that i mean, that, making everybody know that Vol'jin was manipulated to make her warchief, kinda paints her now as an illegitimate warchief. Also besides that, even if we ignore that fact, is pretty obvious that once we find out what is realy the deal wit her being on charge, it will put her on the sight of everybody, and will leave her in a realy bad spot. Also, because of Vol'jin's return, the reazons for every other horde leader to dislike her have increased, as we find out she upsets the balance, and that she is murder hungry. I don't have a theory yet of who brough him back, but i doubt it was the same that whispered him to make Sylvannas warchief.
Well the problem is that the void/light/burnin legion are cosmic level threats because they fight and influence many planets. Sylvanas has yet to shown she wants to conquer more planets and actually show any threat towards the void.If the case was like the illidari , or the arm of the light qhich go to other planets and do their part then you would be propably right but why would the voud care for one single planet? There are other and sylvanas doesnt care for them , you could say in that plnet their is a world soul but there are others out there. You want the answer as to why sylvanas threathen the void? Bad writing , with the fall of legion their is pretty much no threat for the voud and if we compare the horde with the burning legion ... well it is laughable , the devs just want to introduce one new enemy and show that the void cares. The same happened with varian and the burning legion why would they admire him or care , in the instance of illidan which legion cared , he actually fought them in their own territory... With few words what i want to say is that they to make it seem that what happens actually matters in a bigger scale , but if you see it from the world perspective it really doesnt.
What we know of the Lore is that there are many actors in the realm of death. Something more powerful might be what whispered to vol'jin. But I'd think vol'jins spirit, given the fact he has been "touched by the hand of valor", is actually brought back by a light-based entity. Probably the same thing that will play a role with Calia Menethil and who has some connection with the Naaru. We already know from the attempt to light-bind Illidan by Xe'ra, and supported by the new Maghar storyline with Yrel, that the light is not just benevolent of nature. Might be an introduction to a light vs death plotline later down the line/ in the next expansion. That's my guess at least.
You forgot to mention that one of the aspect of light is void or shadow. The void gods are an expression of the Na'aru in their light and pure form. They mask a dark side behind their light for light produces shadows. The Void gods are not the ultimate enemy in the universe of Warcraft and Azeroth but something with their sinister and dark side.
Pretty much. The writers are getting extremely lazy. WoD had a stronger narrative than this cookie cutter bullshit Bliz *coughs* sorry... Activision has been putting forward. WoD sucked by the way.
Man when the lich king told them to leave or stay forever and those ghouls popped out of the ground I got the shivers lol!! Also I was like “bring back wrath of the lich king”!!
@@thepwnbringer Story wise, gameplay wise yes from Alpha vanilla to end of Wotlk was the best wow period after that it became a joke. Everyone is waiting for the return of Vanilla hardcore playstyle again u can see them having more fun on Vanilla than on Bfa.
@@apieceoftoast710 You are correct, but that info comes from the Covenant Campaign of Ardenweald. Unless the guy's a Night Fae, he wouldn't know it was Muehzala; the Jailer is a pretty good assumption with the info you would otherwise have.
@@withoutthehihatehappiness413 Alleria and Vereesa are both alive and on the Alliance's side. (Alleria is head of the Void Elves and Vereesa is Ranger-General for the Silver Covenant)
They didnt. he said something along the lines of: windrunner come forward, (...) Da spirits have granted me clarity. a vision. dey whisper a name. many will not understand, but you must step out of da shadows and lead, you must be warchief. he never said that they whisper windrunner. They could have shown him a vision of her as victorious leader over the legion and whispered anything. they could have whispered "Ghuun" or "Variend" for all we know
I have a big feeling that he'll become Loa. He is not undead nor damned (aka clean spirit?) , no one can do anything about his situation, except I have a feeling Bwonsambi has something to do with him. He'll likely want to get rid of him so he can keep the dominance as main Loa.
there's probably rules with loa that doesn't allow that and yeah I'm thinking the same...everything that happened so far says that he's rexan's replacement
I agree, he could likely be a Loa in place of Rezan. Although I would've loved if they somehow brought Rezan back. Short screen time but he was a good dino :3
Maybe they'll trick bwonsamdi and trap him in a magical item or hex him into a frog with a skull face something like that then vol'jin will become the new loa of death saving talanji and her blood line from rastakhan's deal. Just a thought
While on island expeditions, adventurers can discover a Ring of the Reefs that was granted to powerful kvaldir mistweavers by Helya herself. Sensing Helya's power on the ring, the adventurers bring it to Valdemar Stormseeker, who claims that Helya wasn't truly defeated and that she is now growing in power, saying "You cannot kill death!" So it seems that Sylvannas still has a deal with Helya.
What has this got to do with Wakanda...? Sometimes I wish Black Panther never came out and stayed in Comics. You and the rest of the idiots automatically call anything Black or with Black undertones "Wakanda". Its mocking whichever way you look at it.
@@Tommybotham You'll have to take that up with the writers for this expansion. They're the ones who said "Zandalar forever" in the exact same tone and delivery as in Black Panther..
"We need to adapt." "We need to be part of the World again!" "Zandalar forever." Yeah, it's nothing like BP....Besides, noone is calling anything black, for fucking idiot.
i remember watching this video about when gnolls attacked stormwind and was pillaging it and scaring its people from redridge or something, but that was funny because now their just mindless being who serve those with the most power kinda like orcs or uruks or uruk-hai from shadows of mordor/war and LOTR... anyway it wasnt hogger this was the level 8 tank pet warlocks get, we know for sure it wasnt imps because they always say "CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?"
That's the problem when they moved his story to a side plot. we'll get little bits at a time. Most often when you get the next piece you've already forgotten what you've seen already. Unless someone makes videos and puts it all together once it's done of course
It most likely was an Old God, most likely N'zoth because he's been a big character in the story recently, but the other two are still technically alive. C'thun is getting a bubble bath is Azerite, Yogg'Saron is still active in Ulduar.
@@chrisarbour "With Yogg-Saron and C'Thun defeated, and Y'Shaarj and G'huun deceased, the only Old God currently active is N'Zoth." wow.gamepedia.com/Old_God
@@apatheticeye6955 i feel more like the old gids will come like this summer. And next expansion will be something else. Some talk about a scourge expansion like the WotLK one.
Claudio - maybe yea. But the Cthulhu look alike was trapped underneath the well that was held down by teldrassil and with that burned down...well that leads to an opening of positions don’t ya think?;)
Azeroth brought him back to take the place of Rezan, while the old gods, prolly N'zoth at this point, made him elect a warchief that spreads death and chaos. Seems pretty reasonable.
As far as I can recall, Death Knights deal with him back in Legion during the Class Campaign. Always glad to see the Lich King make a sneak peek into questlines here and there :D
You would be exceptionally pleased with the whole death knight campaign in Legion. It centers around their relationship with the new Lich King. He felt pretty prominent throughout for me. Though I imagine for everyone not a death knight he wouldn't seem to have much direct presence. A part of me did kinda worry though, since I spent the entire expansion basically making enemies out of most living factions that I wouldn't want to have as enemies in the long run. But I guess it means that when the time comes, I'll only have the choice to turn to the Lich King again.
Bolvar: How'd you know I was alive and the Lich King? Voljin: There always be these bunch of colorful wierdos in Orgrimmar, jumping up and down, and riding steeds inside houses.
@@dirk6503 By being loa of trolls it makes him a trolling power only on par with old gods. Could it be that Asmongold will come as Himself in patch 8.3 when we will hear about Bwosmandi "boss"
Balance. You must have life to have death. If too many people die, who is going to create the new generation of life that will die. The dead can't produce more living, but the living can produce more dead. So those who lord over the dead need life and death to remain balanced to ensure their death empire continues to grow.
Ma warchief has returned. Vol'jin be livin' as one of de loa. Taz'Dingo, Vol'jin, son of Sen'jin. It be good to see ya once again, old friend. Ya have been missed. Ya will be needed.
Well, Vol'jin was touched by demonic power at the time of his death, sooo i say, we know that the void and everything connected to it are scared from death, and who is the guy that hate void stuff and do everything to stop the void. Well it is the big buddy who we had locked away, Sargeras. So if he knew that he gonna fail, he had to ensure that there will be something or someone to defeat the void. And Sylvanas is capable to do that. It is just my theory.
Doubt it -- Sargeras would've done some Fel stuff to him or just smelled like suspicious demon sh*t for Vol'jin. It's probably some OG or Naaru. Surely da void magic can mess wid ya memories mon'!! Or someone acting on behalf of OG/Naaru.......... 😏
so a random felguard was, not only powerful enough to corrupt vol jin with fel magic, but the fel corruption coming from his blade was so strong as to pass sargeras' will and fool a strong character, deeply connected with the loa? highly unlikely
Thank you SO much for this video, as of 8.1.5 i had no idea of this storyline, and i think i'm missing so much more, but i just can't play/see any of this in game, even after finishing the War Campaign.Thank you!
If that was N'zoth doing, then Sylvanas is no more, no less than herald of chaotic forces. Well, judging by her astonishingly cruel actions, it's not that irrational to make an assumption that she's deceived or even secretly working with the old gods.
@@clay391 My bet is Yogg-Saron is the one who gave Vol'jin the vision (why the Lich King was suspected immediately after Bwonsamdi), Sargeras' sword let C'Thun escape from under Ahn'Qiraj, and they're working to free N'Zoth and finally corrupt Azeroth since she's already weak and bleeding from Sargeras.
I note the one they didn't talk to was Helya, I am pretty sure she is the one that whispered to Vol'jin. After all she was making deals with Sylvanas in Legion.
The light calls to Vol’jin to gives him power, thus next patch we get Zandalari Troll Paladins. Also, I hope we get to see a conversation between Sylvannas and Bwonsamdi. I think it would be interesting.
I'm a Alliance player, but i absolutely respect the Horde. Not the Horde of Sylvanas, but the true Horde. The honorable one. The one that fight for the peace and not for power. I miss Vol'jin, i miss Thrall,... Since Cataclism.. the Horde is not the same.
@@Vcs444 quite a few people did that lel. the lich king, for one. Edit : Garrosh is a weak character compared to the old horde champions. saurfang, thrall, voljin, ah the good times.
Stanislav Najman that would be too obvious, if its the old gold, and the voice (shadows lord) telling Alleria to kill sylvanas because she would end us all etc, for the shadows to be scared like that, i guess he sensed a being strong enough around sylvanas to make this shadow lord or what ever it is.. Pee in his pants, and what scared the shadows ? The Death itself, a powerful deathlord whispers voljin to name sylvanas warchief, since sylvanas is part of the dead, and there is no point for the old god and void lord to have sylvanas as leader of the horde, since the dead cant be controlled by the shadows.. And i guess the light bring voljin back for some reasons..
Great video! I'm hoping more comes out soon for this story line. I've been thinking about this and to be honest. If Eyir doesn't have the juice to do whatever was done to Vol'jin then probably Odyn does and he seems to care a lot about valor and he favors strong fighters. I also agree with others that the whisper in Vol'jin's ear was probably one of the Naaru. Having Sylvanas as Warchief could have the effect of driving more people towards the light increasing their influence if nothing else. But what if it was one of the actual gods that brought Vol'jin back? Elune would certainly be powerful enough to do it and is one of the only full deities we know about (The Warcraft Encyclopedia). Though Elune could be just a manifestation of Azeroth's power for all we really know and the mention of "full deity" in the encyclopedia could be nothing more than saying that from a cultural standpoint on Azeroth, Elune is one of the only full gods. Lastly remember it was stated that the world soul in the planet was the most powerful one ever found (which is why everyone wants it so badly). I wouldn't put it past Azeroth herself being the one to bring him back considering how awake/aware she has been this expansion.
Did you tell me to make Sylvanas warchief? Did you tell me to make Sylvanas warchief? Did you tell me to make Sylvanas warchief? ...ARRR, I be just a paintin' of a head.
Makes him look like a fool, considering practically everybody but his fancy loa who whisper decisions into his ears could have told him to make Baine warchief. I mean, it's not like Azeroth has a military-industrial complex that would have JFKd Baine that required a part of the problem to manage the downfall in order to bring about a renewal.
im happy to see interaction with the new lich king Bolvar i hope something more comes of him role wise. it would be amazing to see tirion and bolvar unite against sylvanas or an even bigger threat
"Tell them only that the Lich King is dead, and that Bolvar Fordragon died with him. Now go! Leave this place, and never return!" Then you return with Baine and Talanji. So much for that. Oh, and so much for Tirion having his own destiny to fulfill. Disappears from game and story until Legion prepatch, gets wrecked by Gul'dan, dies early into Paladin order hall campaign.
@@martinodonnell7096 -- I know whoever dawns the helmet comes under the influence of the Lich King, but Arthas and Bolvar have obviously operated differently as the Lich King. I am not under any influence that Bolvar has made the Lich King a "Good Guy", but I do believe the influence of the person who takes on the mantle does have some bearing on the Lich King's actions. You may totally be right about the voice though.
@@semi6544the lich king (ner zhul) is dead you idiot. Arthas killed him. If you played the story line you would have known. Only thing that remained in helmet is the darkness that made ner zhul loose his mind. And the ability to control the scourge.
If you kill all life there is no more life to live and die so real Death deities would also strive to keep Life going since it feeds them eventually when living die.
My gues is it was sargaras. First of all because he was poisened by demon, making it very likely that he was the one being able to communicate with voljin. Second of all because sargaras wanted only one thing to destroy the void, if he would fail with his legion, Sylvanas would might succeed by turning everyone into undead.
I think Sargeras' last trump card was leaving his sword plunged into Azeroth itself. Not sure yet what "final" effect that will have but it isn't looking good at Silithus.
How could it be N'zoth he can only whisper from the depths,Orgrimmar is not that low,perhaps Garrosh did dig deep enough when he was creating a compound beneath Orgrimmar?
Confirmed, Garrosh dug so deep he found a Balrog! But really though I think N'zoth would be a bit too obvious. It's most likely a deeper darker force. Those (void wraiths?) that chase us in the quest are a little hint/tease from Blizzard.
i doubt it is n'zoth or any old god. The whispers that alleria heard while meeting sylvanas were almost scared and desperate, telling alleria to kill her sister.
Maybe Ner'zhul did it, lots of souls were released when frostmourne broke, maybe he was laying low, keeping himself hidden from the legion cause they would be after him, and now that the legion is all done he is making his move, the void is afraid of death and now the legion is finished they are making their move aswell. Smoke and mirrors.
wait... but it frostmorne broke then arthas would be out too, but his good part would be out aswell, ya know in the book when he stabs his dying good child self? then 2 seconds later nerzhul comes to hug him and he stabs him too.
@@bryceyhamel8281 did frostmourne take arthas' soul? I cant remember, did arthas die or become merged with frostmourne? when frostmourne broke arthas was arthas again in the cutscene when he spoke to the spirit of his father except we messed him up lol. Ner'zhul was a different entity, his body was destroyed in the twisting nether but kil jaeden(i think) bound him to the frozen throne.
would love if, at the end of all this, voljin becomes the new "loa of kings". since we all know bwonsamdi did some shady shit to become the current one.
Old gods/void lords don't like the undead, so it wasn't either that told Voljin to make Sylvanus warchief. Nzoth reveals that it was the light that whispered to Voljin saying "The light has struck a deal with the enemy of all (death)". Undead and the light are joining forces in the form of Horde/Alliance to fight the old gods/void.
I was so pissed that Vol'jin got taken out so quickly after being named Warchief. However, it looks like he might be back for round 2 in Shadowlands and more powerful than ever.
It was Thrall. He can't just ask for the throne back, so he pulled together this long and winded plot so that Sylvannas would go power hungry, saurfang would defect, and come help/save thrall when sylvannas sent her lackeys to kill him. So that he can go back to the horde, and tak over as warchief again, and be a hero.
The god of death was like “oh no, I didn’t pick Sylvanas. She be trippin too much, and she keeps what she kills.” You know you’re a dope villain when the God of Death is afraid of you
He's not afraid of her. It's that rather than allow the souls of those she kills to go on to where they're supposed to (be it the Halls of Valor, or to Helheim, or to Bwonsamdi, etc) she keeps them. Or, it appears, redirects them to Torghast/the Jailer. If he fears anything, it's the Jailer. Although there's no telling whether or not he's aware.
![Thrall Meets Jaina Cinematic: Sylvanas Executes Baine & Derek Proudmoore [WoW: BFADragonflight Lore]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/W2sODrN46ms/mqdefault.jpg)
![Uther Enters Sylvanas Cinematic: Arthas Battles Sylvanas [Dragonflight Lore]](/img/n.gif)
**Vol'jin's Story in Shadowlands Continued**
Link: th-cam.com/video/IiVdjN9xdsY/w-d-xo.html
Hiya folks! This one covers the last part for the 8.1 Horde War Campaign, continuing Vol’jin’s search for who told him to make Sylvanas Warchief.
Again, a big thank you to everyone who’s been patient with me on being late with some of these uploads.
Although I do wish we could have gone on a nice little questline with Varian on our side.
Y’know, because why not? :D Take care folks!
Thanks for this, I didn't get time to watch any cinematics or lore when leveling
Athelarius....What 1H is that during the first scene? The spinning center to it?
Hey, I was trying to find some way to contact you privately but couldn't find anything. I'm writing a lore article for mmorpg.com and would like to include a link to this video because I am going to reference this storyline. I wanted to check and make sure you were fine with that though.
Sir could you tell me what soundtrack are you using in the moment of 1:00 when vol jin is speaking with talanji ?
@@Supra3330 do u have a answer to that?
Nathanos crouching behind the throne whispering to voljin
That's the best explanation I've heard yet! xD
Good joke.
"I be da spirits, Sylvanas is 10/10 best warchief"
"Sure 'bout dat?"
"Suuure... nothing can go wrong..."
I laughed more than I should. :'D
WoooOOOoooOOOooo, I be da spirats. Sylvanas has nice cans, she be da best Wah Chief...WoooOOOoooOOOooo.
Bolvar: No one must know I'm the Lich King!
*Expansions later*
Bolvar: How'd you all know I was here?!
Well that's what happens when you put a statue in the middle of Dalaran that shows everyone him becoming the Lich King if they touch it.
Damn, good point
@@Junebug89 🤣 so true
"vol'jin, who made you name sylvanas warchief?"
"aaah... the plot demands that i conveniently forget"
I mean. It's obviously N'zoth that told him that. And old gods are extremely powerful and smart. Don't you think N'zoth would predict almost everything that could happen. Destroying the world isn't exactly a 1 day job. If they made him know everything when he got resurrected the plot woulf be really weird. Next patch is named wrath of Aszhara so for them to make N'zoth the focus would just be retarded.
Destroying the world isnt N'zoth goal, his main purpose, just like the other old gods, is to corrupt titan world-souls like Azeroth for the voidlords altho i am sure that he also wants to bring back the black empire, especially since he is the last one alive and could rule all by himself
@@korz7501 Well he wants to kill everyone on azeroth except his helpers. Maybe not literally destroying the world. But killing almost everyone.
@@iddejonsson4374 yeah destroying the world and end of the world are sometimes taken as literal destruction of the planet when it could just mean end of what we know. I haven't read up on the black empire but from what i gathered it was all about corruption and controlling everything
Yshomatsu the Black Empire. Look at Ahn’Quiraj or Azjol-Nerub. Swarms of the Old God’s monstrosities fighting for power seemingly mindless to thought, or reason. Yet, the swarms are extremely well organized in purpose. Driven by the Old God who is considered the hive mind of the particular swarm in question.
Vol'jin just made Sylvanas warchief for the lulz. After all he always used to be a big troll.
hahahahhaha man you killed me
U my fried... Are awesome
"Da plants be makin' da shadows be talkin' ta me mon. Dey be sayin' Sylvanas be da next Warchief"
based and trollpilled
He is delirious, death and demonic poison cloud his thoughts... Would not be better to think this through?
SYLVANAS IT IS
It is Activision whispered to Vojin, 100%
iHaveGrudgeAgainstUT ??? : Pick sylvanas as warchief and make horde embrace Political Correction...(like Gay76.. I’ve got u in my sight😏💟)
There are no forces darker or more evil
@@TheGreenMarvin Fr, i'm almost certain that a trickster god infiltrated the gaming industry and ruined several companies (Nintendo must be protected by the thousands of japanese gods or smth)
Holy shit
So that’s how it happened
@@DT-yw4ob the trickester gods' name is Coperate Greed
All the "Death Gods" are just like: "Vol'jin gtfo".
He's not invited to the secret hot tub party but he still wants in!
That's how i felt about him from cataclysm onward
Hes such a loser
Technically not ALL the death gods.
@@ebolachanislove6072 y tho?
The next thing is voljin will ask strangers on the street if they brought his spirit back to the world 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hello there, Vol'jin's witnesses! Have you heard about our lord and savior N'zoth?!
Just imagine him walking into stormwind asking Anduin if he had anything to do with this
Deutscher Geist he’ll probably ask Mankrik’s wife.
Vol'Jin: Have you seen my friend Gavin?
Can I interest you in visiting the Blue Hole?
When even the God of Death says "Ayo... that's a bit much, fam."
I still miss him everyday. He is my favorite character and I think he got the short end of the stick while he was warchief. Weak ass storyline for him
Same goes for the Old Horde characters, Pre-Cata Thrall, Cata Garrosh, Vol'jin, Cairne, I miss them all, and Blizzard got rid of them sadly. That's why I put some stock in Saurfang but I don't see him doing much against Sylvanas' THICC plot armor.
He got no stick at all.
current storyline might be the real spotlight for Vol'jin, at least I hope so
he is one of the reasons garrosh went insane and i hate him for it.
Vol Jin was weak he died on trash in Legion
I am just glad they're giving Vol'jin a proper story. When he was Warchief you FORGOT he was warchief until he died in Legion!!! He seriously became WarCheif and than DIED right after! So for him to have closure is nice to see!
Yep, unfortunately his reign began at the end of MoP and into WoD, and WoD was a mess of its own. And by Legion they kill him off so I guess they're trying to make up for it.
Agree. Love him since warcraft 3. Sad he had no character progression.
F. Gazi agreed! Trolls are my favorite part of the Horde. I had more Troll characters than any other!
@@crazybunnigaming93 I love the horde overall in warcraft 3. They are awesome. Love the chars and campaigns.
I heard that they originally did not intend to kill him off in Legion, as he did not die in the earliest Alphas - but there was too much backlash for Varian dying and not Vol'jin, so they changed it. Big mistake, imho - and I'm an Alliance player.
Remember when Bolvar being the Lich King was supposed to be a secret to the entire world? Now we just casually beam up to him for advice and what not.
The leaders and players are aware of him. Not the general public. For Legion it was the Ebon Blade that moved. An Order that was generally known under the leadership of the Death Knight that betrayed the Lich King.
Pretty sure the general public has no talent for beaming up places, but you certainly earned bolvar's respect enough to do it.
Well, that's because he is a nobody, Sylvanas soloed him and then broke his tiara in half with her bare hands.
RoarOfDamnation She’s a boring character with plot armor lol
@@FREERYU100 Which adds to the disrespect.
I'm as hardcore ALLIANCE player as there is, but man, I got a ton of love and respect for Vol'Jin. He is just really impossible not to love. He may have not wanted to be WC of the Horde but imo, he was one of the BEST the Horde EVER had. I actually miss him.
Pretty much all of the main OG Horde heroes (Thrall, Cairne, Saurfang, Eitrigg, Vol'jin, etc.) were impossible not to love. In WC3 Thrall and his companions took the Horde from being clownish two-bit villains to a relatable and immensely likeable rag-tag band of misunderstood underdogs. Too bad about what's happened to most of them now...
It's a common theme with the classic characters in Warcraft and WoW, horde or alliance. The way they were developed, voiced, designed, etc. It's a formula that they can't reproduce exactly nowadays. But there's some new characters that are great, but the classics will always be the best simply because of how they were made and developed.
@@Athelarius That's true to an extent - I guess it reflects WC3's tone and storytelling ambitions more than anything - once Alliance and Horde were pitted against one another in WoW for gameplay reasons writing out most of the sensible characters was always going to be a given. What is Thrall doing nowadays anyway? The Thrall from WC3 would never ever let his people suffer under the leadership of Sylvanas.
gah, hardcore alliance player, being half of time online afk jerking of to furry crap, then saying how big of a dick you have when you get 50 alliance players to kill one horde, apparently when hordes know the game better than you only things you alliances throw as an excuses are; "i was lagging"
"he has a kickbot"
"hes speed hacking"
"lol noob your class is broken"
"my class is underpowered*
"wow sucks"
All of those above are main alliance things to say. just accept that anduin is gay and horde is the cooler faction.
Speaking as a /real/ hardcore Hordie; we appreciate your love for Voljin, and I feel the same about Varyian and Anduin. Respect to you and Loktar friend!
Vol'Jin's Bizarre Adventure
He became a stand
Dead man's questions
Does this make Vol'Jin a stand
It was no old god nor death god that send him back.
*It was me, DIO!*
Is that aJojo reference?
The horde got trolled by voljin, picking sylvanas was the best troll even after death.
Hah, I get it
Trolls gonna troll
It’s the ultimate Troll troll!
I be lovin' ol' Bwonsamdi. He be da cool mon.
Bwonsamdi is the last bastion of charm left in the storyline right now. Although a bit devious xD
@@Athelarius Careful what ya say YuTyub-mon, or you'l be seein' your strike soon enough.
jk xD
O nonononononononono nn xd
couldn't agree more, mon!
I'm loving him too... His captured souls fuel the shadow lands.. And I am the ruler of it.
Lich king be like, I cannot refuse a meal that freely wonders into my castle.
He'd have to cancel his Ice Block though. It might have a long cooldown. And after past events he'd probably be careful before he exposes himself to that risk, haha.
Thats a line from Harry Potter. I would never forget that freaking spider
Talanji be lookin' like a snacc in there
Well he is not in a position to be a picky eater after what Sylvanas did to his ass.
RoarOfDamnation not our lich King lol arthas is way better
''Vol'jin kinda forgot about the whispers''
I saved the universe, went back in time, had my last dance, lived a long life and waited 70 years... and now, I finally understood that reference.
he and daenerys should speak about their memory issues
but the whispers havent forgotten about him lmao
I have such a deep love for Vol'jin and have high respects for him. I found it was severely unjust they made him Warchief and then kill him off in Legion, but I am grateful that they are giving him a proper storyline in this expansion. I wish to see more.
It was Gamon.
Have noticed that he's gone missing????
It's his doing
Wasn't he killed? I can't remember.
@@nahalastone8027 -- Gamon will save us!
@@nahalastone8027 According to wowpedia, he is still alive. Perhaps he is together with Wrathion (Gamon is everywhere)
Gamon is still drinking at the same spot.
Dammit Gamon! You just had to go and mess with WoW lore huh?!
Ok since everybody seems completely lost im gonna give you guys a little hint: Whatever it is that put Sylvannas in charge, is something that dosen't want the Void to win. Sylvannas plans are to turn everybody into undead, pretty much Lich King 2.0, and this was clearly stated in the comic "The 3 sisters". And her reazon of why, is because she thinks that, once everybody has ben turned into an undead bound to her will, there will no be wars ever again. Esentialy turning the world into an utopia of peace.... filled with nothing but walking rotting corpses....
If she gets to accomplish this, then the void would have lost, as they can't corrupt undead, or control them.
Now, im gonna add some shocking info that MAY hint even further to who is doing this.... One of N'Zoth whispers in the coming patch says:
"The light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all"
The enemy of all is death, just in case you don't know.
In the 3 sisters comic, the void whispers in Alleria's mind went bersek almost... Urging her to kill Sylvannas ASAP and save the world. The void does NOT want Sylvannas alive.
"This one is dangerous. She is a threat and must be ended. Beware this one! She seeks the death of all things... all posibilities. End her threat. Murder her, murder her, save yourself, and murder her. Save the world and murder her!"
Excelllent summary. I'm also straying away from N'zoth not only because it's too obvious but because the Void doesn't have much to gain from a servant of Death, as you mentioned earlier. Now I did originally think it was a higher entity from the Void, but you got a point with the quote "The light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all". So maybe the hand of valor Eyir mentioned was indeed the one who whispered Voljin as well? The light made a pact with Death to counter the Void? But I still think those would be separate forces (i.e who whispered and who brought back). Interesting stuff. Thanks again for the summary and insight!
@@Athelarius Whatever did whisper Vol'jin can't be the same that brough him back, as to have him back threatens Sylvannas position as warchief. By that i mean, that, making everybody know that Vol'jin was manipulated to make her warchief, kinda paints her now as an illegitimate warchief. Also besides that, even if we ignore that fact, is pretty obvious that once we find out what is realy the deal wit her being on charge, it will put her on the sight of everybody, and will leave her in a realy bad spot.
Also, because of Vol'jin's return, the reazons for every other horde leader to dislike her have increased, as we find out she upsets the balance, and that she is murder hungry.
I don't have a theory yet of who brough him back, but i doubt it was the same that whispered him to make Sylvannas warchief.
Well the problem is that the void/light/burnin legion are cosmic level threats because they fight and influence many planets. Sylvanas has yet to shown she wants to conquer more planets and actually show any threat towards the void.If the case was like the illidari , or the arm of the light qhich go to other planets and do their part then you would be propably right but why would the voud care for one single planet? There are other and sylvanas doesnt care for them , you could say in that plnet their is a world soul but there are others out there.
You want the answer as to why sylvanas threathen the void? Bad writing , with the fall of legion their is pretty much no threat for the voud and if we compare the horde with the burning legion ... well it is laughable , the devs just want to introduce one new enemy and show that the void cares.
The same happened with varian and the burning legion why would they admire him or care , in the instance of illidan which legion cared , he actually fought them in their own territory...
With few words what i want to say is that they to make it seem that what happens actually matters in a bigger scale , but if you see it from the world perspective it really doesnt.
What we know of the Lore is that there are many actors in the realm of death. Something more powerful might be what whispered to vol'jin. But I'd think vol'jins spirit, given the fact he has been "touched by the hand of valor", is actually brought back by a light-based entity. Probably the same thing that will play a role with Calia Menethil and who has some connection with the Naaru. We already know from the attempt to light-bind Illidan by Xe'ra, and supported by the new Maghar storyline with Yrel, that the light is not just benevolent of nature. Might be an introduction to a light vs death plotline later down the line/ in the next expansion. That's my guess at least.
You forgot to mention that one of the aspect of light is void or shadow. The void gods are an expression of the Na'aru in their light and pure form. They mask a dark side behind their light for light produces shadows. The Void gods are not the ultimate enemy in the universe of Warcraft and Azeroth but something with their sinister and dark side.
It's all leading to old gods expansion, thus whatever whispered to him was probably one of old gods, simple game of thrones of the old gods
Game of Olds
Pretty much. The writers are getting extremely lazy. WoD had a stronger narrative than this cookie cutter bullshit Bliz *coughs* sorry... Activision has been putting forward. WoD sucked by the way.
An ancient evil awakens part 7 the prequel
Cuthun : you are already dead!
Wait, he knew of sylvannas?!
Yup. All the expansions are two parters now into.
Vol'jin wandering around who whispered to him made me think of that children's book, "Are you My Momma?"
Gotta love the Lich King.
"I had no part on this, fuck off or die here"
Lmao
Man when the lich king told them to leave or stay forever and those ghouls popped out of the ground I got the shivers lol!! Also I was like “bring back wrath of the lich king”!!
best era of warcraft period
Same here. Good old days...
@@thepwnbringer Story wise, gameplay wise yes from Alpha vanilla to end of Wotlk was the best wow period after that it became a joke. Everyone is waiting for the return of Vanilla hardcore playstyle again u can see them having more fun on Vanilla than on Bfa.
Or like sentient armor of the LK named "The Wrath of the Lich King" fuck that would be cool
Michael Kangaris Cata wasn’t too bad. Tho they did release lfr and we’re starting to shrink down the talent system
Seem's like the voice Vol'jin heard was the Jailor's
Nah more like activision
You were right
@@JolinReintjes no the fuck they weren't, have you not played shadowlands? It was muehzala. Not the jailer
@@apieceoftoast710 You are correct, but that info comes from the Covenant Campaign of Ardenweald. Unless the guy's a Night Fae, he wouldn't know it was Muehzala; the Jailer is a pretty good assumption with the info you would otherwise have.
@@corinabanu7556 wow head exists, you dolt. If you're only getting the lore from the covenant you belong to, that's your fault for being an idiot
Bwonsamdi is by far my favorite character this expansion. The guy just cracks me up.
The voice whispered that "Windrunner" would be their savior.
But did it mean *Sylvanas* Windrunner?
WilfredIvanhoe are there still any wind runners sisters around?
@@withoutthehihatehappiness413 Alleria and Vereesa are both alive and on the Alliance's side. (Alleria is head of the Void Elves and Vereesa is Ranger-General for the Silver Covenant)
They didnt.
he said something along the lines of: windrunner come forward, (...) Da spirits have granted me clarity. a vision. dey whisper a name. many will not understand, but you must step out of da shadows and lead, you must be warchief.
he never said that they whisper windrunner.
They could have shown him a vision of her as victorious leader over the legion and whispered anything.
they could have whispered "Ghuun" or "Variend" for all we know
TLDR: "I dunno but Sylvanas sucks, mon."
TLDW*
Nobody whispered, Vol'jin was just trollin"
i think u're trolling cuz u know exactly who whispered to her.
King Arthas
@@cancerapple5206 nathanos drank an invis pot and whispered into his ear
JUST GOING TO VISIT THE LK LIKE...SUP BRO WHAT IT IS!?
Fight me IRL
I have a big feeling that he'll become Loa. He is not undead nor damned (aka clean spirit?) , no one can do anything about his situation, except I have a feeling Bwonsambi has something to do with him. He'll likely want to get rid of him so he can keep the dominance as main Loa.
there's probably rules with loa that doesn't allow that and yeah I'm thinking the same...everything that happened so far says that he's rexan's replacement
Pea Games nah bwonsamdi not like that at all
I agree, he could likely be a Loa in place of Rezan. Although I would've loved if they somehow brought Rezan back. Short screen time but he was a good dino :3
Maybe they'll trick bwonsamdi and trap him in a magical item or hex him into a frog with a skull face something like that then vol'jin will become the new loa of death saving talanji and her blood line from rastakhan's deal. Just a thought
Everything also points to the possibility that Nzoth tricked Voljin to name Sylvanas warchief.
While on island expeditions, adventurers can discover a Ring of the Reefs that was granted to powerful kvaldir mistweavers by Helya herself. Sensing Helya's power on the ring, the adventurers bring it to Valdemar Stormseeker, who claims that Helya wasn't truly defeated and that she is now growing in power, saying "You cannot kill death!"
So it seems that Sylvannas still has a deal with Helya.
thanks so much for compiling these!!!
Wakanda forever! Wait.... Zandalar? What?
What has this got to do with Wakanda...? Sometimes I wish Black Panther never came out and stayed in Comics. You and the rest of the idiots automatically call anything Black or with Black undertones "Wakanda". Its mocking whichever way you look at it.
@@Tommybotham it's just a joke
@@Tommybotham You'll have to take that up with the writers for this expansion. They're the ones who said "Zandalar forever" in the exact same tone and delivery as in Black Panther..
"We need to adapt." "We need to be part of the World again!" "Zandalar forever."
Yeah, it's nothing like BP....Besides, noone is calling anything black, for fucking idiot.
Yibambe mon
We need our WC3 heroes back. Thrall, Vol'jin, Cairne!
Cairne is long gone. It would be extremely strange for him to be back.
Tbh we could have seen this coming. Vol'jin told us from the start: ''Darkspear never die''.
For everyone wondering why Vol’jin made sylvanas warchief it’s because the jailers minion whispered to voljins mind
or Nzoth
@@FT9Booce Mueh'Zala confess is during De Other Side dungeon in Shadowlands
Isn’t it n’zoth?
@@jaberthebestgamer838 nop
@@jaberthebestgamer838 look out for "de other side mueh zala"
Knowing the most recent update, it was def the Jailer who whispered. He rules afterworld, so makes sense.
Oh no it was confirmed it was Muezala. But he does work for the Jailer.
I say this is the doing of Hogger!
"Forest just setback!"
i remember watching this video about when gnolls attacked stormwind and was pillaging it and scaring its people from redridge or something, but that was funny because now their just mindless being who serve those with the most power kinda like orcs or uruks or uruk-hai from shadows of mordor/war and LOTR... anyway it wasnt hogger this was the level 8 tank pet warlocks get, we know for sure it wasnt imps because they always say "CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?"
Well that ended rather anticlimactically.
That's the problem when they moved his story to a side plot. we'll get little bits at a time. Most often when you get the next piece you've already forgotten what you've seen already. Unless someone makes videos and puts it all together once it's done of course
I haven't played in a long time but I would imagine that it was N'Zoth.
N'zoth probably made him come back to his word state of neither living or dead. But I doubt an old God cares who's warchief
@@oxstr8upgreekxo730 Old gods thrive on war.
It most likely was an Old God, most likely N'zoth because he's been a big character in the story recently, but the other two are still technically alive. C'thun is getting a bubble bath is Azerite, Yogg'Saron is still active in Ulduar.
@@chrisarbour
"With Yogg-Saron and C'Thun defeated, and Y'Shaarj and G'huun deceased, the only Old God currently active is N'Zoth."
wow.gamepedia.com/Old_God
Could it be Zul?
"Cairne, Garrosh, Theramore"
The feels.
"You have been altered more than you know"
I'm assuming it's either one of Sylvanas' cartoon supervillain scheme, or old gods shenanigans
I think that Azeroth brought back voljin for what purpose I do not know.
Azeroth bring him back and the old god the one who was whispering to him. Idk why but i fell like it's something around those lines.
@@SkreD finally someone thinking about the old gods! You realize theyre probably gonna be in the next expansion right?
@@apatheticeye6955 i feel more like the old gids will come like this summer. And next expansion will be something else. Some talk about a scourge expansion like the WotLK one.
Claudio - maybe yea. But the Cthulhu look alike was trapped underneath the well that was held down by teldrassil and with that burned down...well that leads to an opening of positions don’t ya think?;)
Azeroth brought him back to take the place of Rezan, while the old gods, prolly N'zoth at this point, made him elect a warchief that spreads death and chaos. Seems pretty reasonable.
Super Vol'jin Bros.
Sorry, but your memory be in another castle, mon.
Absolutely love that lich king played a role. Did he in other situations post wotlk?
As far as I can recall, Death Knights deal with him back in Legion during the Class Campaign. Always glad to see the Lich King make a sneak peek into questlines here and there :D
He makes a cameo in the Fire Mage's quest for their artifact weapon as well. He's popping in here and there and everywhere ^^
@@Athelarius Can you do a video on the post Wotlk Lich King scenes? I quit playing shortly into cata and wonder how he is fairing now!
You would be exceptionally pleased with the whole death knight campaign in Legion. It centers around their relationship with the new Lich King. He felt pretty prominent throughout for me. Though I imagine for everyone not a death knight he wouldn't seem to have much direct presence. A part of me did kinda worry though, since I spent the entire expansion basically making enemies out of most living factions that I wouldn't want to have as enemies in the long run. But I guess it means that when the time comes, I'll only have the choice to turn to the Lich King again.
in the BELF race story for the heirloom armor
Vol'jin : "and you, lich king...did YOU do this on my head ?"
Bolvar: How'd you know I was alive and the Lich King?
Voljin: There always be these bunch of colorful wierdos in Orgrimmar, jumping up and down, and riding steeds inside houses.
It was Asmongold who whispered Vol'jin to make Sylvanas leader
Clearly underrated reply. We all know Asmongold is Loa of azeroth
@@michatomczyk6813 not the loa of azeroth, the loa of trolls ill give you that...
@@dirk6503 By being loa of trolls it makes him a trolling power only on par with old gods. Could it be that Asmongold will come as Himself in patch 8.3 when we will hear about Bwosmandi "boss"
@@michatomczyk6813 Please leave the woodchuck with no talent or personality out of this.
Make The Horde Great Again.
What's with all the balance stuff?
BRING BACK VOLJIN BLIZZ!
Balance. You must have life to have death. If too many people die, who is going to create the new generation of life that will die. The dead can't produce more living, but the living can produce more dead. So those who lord over the dead need life and death to remain balanced to ensure their death empire continues to grow.
The horse is gonna be a wall a really great wall and the alliance is gonna pay for it.
Ma warchief has returned. Vol'jin be livin' as one of de loa. Taz'Dingo, Vol'jin, son of Sen'jin. It be good to see ya once again, old friend. Ya have been missed. Ya will be needed.
now we know of the jailour this all makes a lot of sense
Sylvanus herself probably used whatever new power source she has to tell Vol'jin to name her the next warchief.
All signs points to that being the Jailer.
Well, Vol'jin was touched by demonic power at the time of his death, sooo i say, we know that the void and everything connected to it are scared from death, and who is the guy that hate void stuff and do everything to stop the void. Well it is the big buddy who we had locked away, Sargeras. So if he knew that he gonna fail, he had to ensure that there will be something or someone to defeat the void. And Sylvanas is capable to do that. It is just my theory.
*_"I LIKE THE WAY YOU TINK, MON~!!!!"_*
Damn, sageras whispered to guldan too???🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲
Doubt it -- Sargeras would've done some Fel stuff to him or just smelled like suspicious demon sh*t for Vol'jin.
It's probably some OG or Naaru. Surely da void magic can mess wid ya memories mon'!! Or someone acting on behalf of OG/Naaru.......... 😏
so a random felguard was, not only powerful enough to corrupt vol jin with fel magic, but the fel corruption coming from his blade was so strong as to pass sargeras' will and fool a strong character, deeply connected with the loa? highly unlikely
I was going to comment this myself. Good thinking :D
Thank you SO much for this video, as of 8.1.5 i had no idea of this storyline, and i think i'm missing so much more, but i just can't play/see any of this in game, even after finishing the War Campaign.Thank you!
U need to reach exalted with zadanlari first to get these quest.
N’zoth most likely whispered it and is the “big boss” Bwomsamdi refers to
If that was N'zoth doing, then Sylvanas is no more, no less than herald of chaotic forces. Well, judging by her astonishingly cruel actions, it's not that irrational to make an assumption that she's deceived or even secretly working with the old gods.
Thanks for sharing the story mate!
N’Zoth whispered to him, and I bet Azeroth herself brought him back.
The Old Gods are coming back using that giant sword that struck azeroth as a catalyst for their return
@@DahjerCanaanyeah, I bet your right. The sword weakened N'Zoth's prison and N'Zoth is gaining syphoning power from the sword.
@@clay391 My bet is Yogg-Saron is the one who gave Vol'jin the vision (why the Lich King was suspected immediately after Bwonsamdi), Sargeras' sword let C'Thun escape from under Ahn'Qiraj, and they're working to free N'Zoth and finally corrupt Azeroth since she's already weak and bleeding from Sargeras.
@@wtfidonteven6874 ooh, thats a tasty plot. I like that too.
W Anders yeah that’s likely the route they are going to take. “The Old Gods did it!” What a gripping narrative.
this was awesome thanks!
The guy, from Blizzard, who wrote the script, whispered to Vol'Jin.
I note the one they didn't talk to was Helya, I am pretty sure she is the one that whispered to Vol'jin. After all she was making deals with Sylvanas in Legion.
I may be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure we killed Helya already in legion in a raid. I don't think it could be her.
The light calls to Vol’jin to gives him power, thus next patch we get Zandalari Troll Paladins.
Also, I hope we get to see a conversation between Sylvannas and Bwonsamdi. I think it would be interesting.
They could work out custody for the souls of the damned.
I'm a Alliance player, but i absolutely respect the Horde. Not the Horde of Sylvanas, but the true Horde. The honorable one. The one that fight for the peace and not for power.
I miss Vol'jin, i miss Thrall,...
Since Cataclism.. the Horde is not the same.
We are complete opposites :D My favorite character will always and forever be Garrosh, no matter what he has done, he was a definition of a badass
The Iron Horde?
@@Vcs444 nonono, he is bad and an ass but not a badass
@@diablo.the.cheater Am pretty sure that he made horde and alliance "join hands" to face him. If thats not badass i dont know what is
@@Vcs444 quite a few people did that lel. the lich king, for one.
Edit : Garrosh is a weak character compared to the old horde champions. saurfang, thrall, voljin, ah the good times.
-Wakanda- Zandalar Forever!
This isn't funny.
Well captured and structured mate :)
The Troll Princess: Zandalar Forever.
Me: Heh...ya stole it from somewhere, didn't ya?
Wakanda foreva!
Well, obvious refference
Damn this is way more interesting than the alliance story. I hope we get more interesting old god storylines in the next patches.
I think it was Sylvanas herself who whispered to Vol'jin
She actually didnt want to be warchief at first since she really just wanted to be with the undead in UC and work in the shadows
Or she made it seem like it?
I also do not thing it was her. My gues is the old gods.
Stanislav Najman that would be too obvious, if its the old gold, and the voice (shadows lord) telling Alleria to kill sylvanas because she would end us all etc, for the shadows to be scared like that, i guess he sensed a being strong enough around sylvanas to make this shadow lord or what ever it is.. Pee in his pants, and what scared the shadows ? The Death itself, a powerful deathlord whispers voljin to name sylvanas warchief, since sylvanas is part of the dead, and there is no point for the old god and void lord to have sylvanas as leader of the horde, since the dead cant be controlled by the shadows.. And i guess the light bring voljin back for some reasons..
Vol'Jin knew he fucked up and he is making excuses XD
"zandalar forever" lol how original.
Great video! I'm hoping more comes out soon for this story line.
I've been thinking about this and to be honest. If Eyir doesn't have the juice to do whatever was done to Vol'jin then probably Odyn does and he seems to care a lot about valor and he favors strong fighters. I also agree with others that the whisper in Vol'jin's ear was probably one of the Naaru. Having Sylvanas as Warchief could have the effect of driving more people towards the light increasing their influence if nothing else.
But what if it was one of the actual gods that brought Vol'jin back? Elune would certainly be powerful enough to do it and is one of the only full deities we know about (The Warcraft Encyclopedia). Though Elune could be just a manifestation of Azeroth's power for all we really know and the mention of "full deity" in the encyclopedia could be nothing more than saying that from a cultural standpoint on Azeroth, Elune is one of the only full gods.
Lastly remember it was stated that the world soul in the planet was the most powerful one ever found (which is why everyone wants it so badly). I wouldn't put it past Azeroth herself being the one to bring him back considering how awake/aware she has been this expansion.
Did you tell me to make Sylvanas warchief?
Did you tell me to make Sylvanas warchief?
Did you tell me to make Sylvanas warchief?
...ARRR, I be just a paintin' of a head.
Makes him look like a fool, considering practically everybody but his fancy loa who whisper decisions into his ears could have told him to make Baine warchief.
I mean, it's not like Azeroth has a military-industrial complex that would have JFKd Baine that required a part of the problem to manage the downfall in order to bring about a renewal.
brilliant work mate
6:47 i love that little "tchhhhhh" of Bwonsandi
im happy to see interaction with the new lich king Bolvar i hope something more comes of him role wise. it would be amazing to see tirion and bolvar unite against sylvanas or an even bigger threat
Maybe it's something from the Shadow lands, wanting Sylvanas back and using most of Azeroth to kill her.
Now THAT is one of the most plausible alternatives I've seen. Good thinking.
This comment aged really well.
@@SirPriceButSecks That's pretty fucking terrifying, I was off but not too bad
i was hoping voljin named sylvanas because he knew it would bring the true horde back together and get rid of the nasties. ;)
I cant wait for Vol'jin to become a loa 👌🏾
"Tell them only that the Lich King is dead, and that Bolvar Fordragon died with him. Now go! Leave this place, and never return!"
Then you return with Baine and Talanji. So much for that.
Oh, and so much for Tirion having his own destiny to fulfill. Disappears from game and story until Legion prepatch, gets wrecked by Gul'dan, dies early into Paladin order hall campaign.
THEY BROUGHT BACK OLD LICH KING VOICE!!!! I DIDN'T LIKE THE NEW ONE
They are different people; shouldn't be the same voice.
My guess is lich 2.0 for future expansion
@@semi6544 They're actually not. Whoever dawns the helmet of Ner'Zhul is the Lich King regardless of their mortal form.
@@martinodonnell7096 -- I know whoever dawns the helmet comes under the influence of the Lich King, but Arthas and Bolvar have obviously operated differently as the Lich King. I am not under any influence that Bolvar has made the Lich King a "Good Guy", but I do believe the influence of the person who takes on the mantle does have some bearing on the Lich King's actions.
You may totally be right about the voice though.
@@semi6544the lich king (ner zhul) is dead you idiot. Arthas killed him. If you played the story line you would have known.
Only thing that remained in helmet is the darkness that made ner zhul loose his mind. And the ability to control the scourge.
The best reaction for 3:25 "When the voice spoke to you, bidding you to name her Warchief..." would have been for Vol'Jin to go "I DID WHAT?????"
Truee
So, Vol'jin be walking da path of de Loa? That 'd be cool mon.
In a nutshell
"Did you tell me to name Sylvanas, and did you bring me back?"
"No fam fuck off."
"Okay."
@Devastator Well, yeah, it's just very redundant writing, with little pay off.
I know shits gone south when the Loa of DEATH says Slyvanas is to murder happy
If you kill all life there is no more life to live and die so real Death deities would also strive to keep Life going since it feeds them eventually when living die.
also the fact that Sylvanus wants to prevent death from ever happening by keeping her people alive forever like the night elves used to be
My gues is it was sargaras. First of all because he was poisened by demon, making it very likely that he was the one being able to communicate with voljin. Second of all because sargaras wanted only one thing to destroy the void, if he would fail with his legion, Sylvanas would might succeed by turning everyone into undead.
I think Sargeras' last trump card was leaving his sword plunged into Azeroth itself. Not sure yet what "final" effect that will have but it isn't looking good at Silithus.
How could it be N'zoth he can only whisper from the depths,Orgrimmar is not that low,perhaps Garrosh did dig deep enough when he was creating a compound beneath Orgrimmar?
Confirmed, Garrosh dug so deep he found a Balrog! But really though I think N'zoth would be a bit too obvious. It's most likely a deeper darker force. Those (void wraiths?) that chase us in the quest are a little hint/tease from Blizzard.
@@Athelarius it's definitely the corrupted image of gorehowl.
i doubt it is n'zoth or any old god. The whispers that alleria heard while meeting sylvanas were almost scared and desperate, telling alleria to kill her sister.
Yes Z'noth is involved in Emerald Nightmares, so Queen Ashasra must have played a part in this, since she also part of the expansion
Zalazene must have whispered to Vol'jin in tricky to name Banshee Queen Warchief
Maybe Ner'zhul did it, lots of souls were released when frostmourne broke, maybe he was laying low, keeping himself hidden from the legion cause they would be after him, and now that the legion is all done he is making his move, the void is afraid of death and now the legion is finished they are making their move aswell. Smoke and mirrors.
wait... but it frostmorne broke then arthas would be out too, but his good part would be out aswell, ya know in the book when he stabs his dying good child self? then 2 seconds later nerzhul comes to hug him and he stabs him too.
@@bryceyhamel8281 did frostmourne take arthas' soul? I cant remember, did arthas die or become merged with frostmourne? when frostmourne broke arthas was arthas again in the cutscene when he spoke to the spirit of his father except we messed him up lol. Ner'zhul was a different entity, his body was destroyed in the twisting nether but kil jaeden(i think) bound him to the frozen throne.
would love if, at the end of all this, voljin becomes the new "loa of kings". since we all know bwonsamdi did some shady shit to become the current one.
yeah yeah. as thrall had to become ASpeCt of EaRth.
Old gods/void lords don't like the undead, so it wasn't either that told Voljin to make Sylvanus warchief. Nzoth reveals that it was the light that whispered to Voljin saying "The light has struck a deal with the enemy of all (death)". Undead and the light are joining forces in the form of Horde/Alliance to fight the old gods/void.
wait so the light wants Sylvanas to be warchief? In that case all hail Sylvanas, Warchief of Death and Light!.
Just give voljin a "PHONE"
Smart to name Sylvanas the new Warchief. She already lead her people to defeat in one life. She will do it again.
I hate how they Garrosh 2.0'd Sylvannis. Shows Blizzards ability to write/see Horde as more than baddies hasn't improved
I was so pissed that Vol'jin got taken out so quickly after being named Warchief. However, it looks like he might be back for round 2 in Shadowlands and more powerful than ever.
It was..... N’ZOTH !
"Many will not undastand" hits hard even so many years later
I don't know what the extent of Odyn's powers are but he is the lord of the Halls of Valor and technically a "good" deity
vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Odyn
It was Thrall. He can't just ask for the throne back, so he pulled together this long and winded plot so that Sylvannas would go power hungry, saurfang would defect, and come help/save thrall when sylvannas sent her lackeys to kill him. So that he can go back to the horde, and tak over as warchief again, and be a hero.
The god of death was like “oh no, I didn’t pick Sylvanas. She be trippin too much, and she keeps what she kills.”
You know you’re a dope villain when the God of Death is afraid of you
He's not afraid of her. It's that rather than allow the souls of those she kills to go on to where they're supposed to (be it the Halls of Valor, or to Helheim, or to Bwonsamdi, etc) she keeps them. Or, it appears, redirects them to Torghast/the Jailer.
If he fears anything, it's the Jailer. Although there's no telling whether or not he's aware.
he said "i man all for war and death" i didnt think it was possible to love bwonsamdi any more