@@Oscar-j6b Dude this game came out in 2002. Back then this game looked insanely good and leagues ahead of its time and to this day I still reckon the original looks better than reforged in certain aspects. So saying that he should’ve had glasses as a kid doesn’t really hold much value as kid in 2002 would’ve thought this game looked amazing for the time.
Models are of very high quality. However, in my opinion, the palette of the models is not so bright as in the classic leading to "blending" with the backgrounds. In classic, models were rough and cartoonish, and as a result the one would never fail to distinguish one model from another or to find them on the battleground. These models are great for rpg style of game, but for rts I guess they need some bright colors or extra rough angles.
Same man, I like the old one cuz it looks like the corpse is still fresh due to the color while in Reforged they look like they're your leftovers that you forgot about.
I used to get the banshee to possess the worker of the enemy base, i bring it back and have it construct another base. Then i have undead base and orc, elf or human base. Sometimes the builder will not be able to build anything
6:58 : Abominations In my opinion, the most frightening detail about the abominations was their big right eye, and unfortunately the reforged model missed that part. Damn I still get chills when I think about Patchwerk wandering in Naxxramas.
@@roving_gnome but the new one needs to be more bright or have bright colors because you can't see his details on his model as if he is covered by shadows or something, the old one is supposed to be the old cartoony creepy graphic looks
Yeah, many people complain about that. There's was supposed to have basic Death Knight model like other Basic Heroes but it was cut short, so they settle on using Arthas's model in the end. I imagine the design was like a hooded rider with the typical runeblade.
You nailed it, the new one is soulless compared to the previous one, I start to understand why they say Blizzard nowadays doesn't understand gamers, or even games anymore.
0:09 King Arthas Menethil, Death Knight of the Scourge (Evil) 0:50 Underking Anub'arak the Traitor King 1:24 Kel'Thuzad, Archlich of Naxxramas (Lich) 1:59 Dark Lady Sylvanas Windrunner, Banshee Queen of the Forsaken (Evil) 2:28 Dark Lady Sylvanas Windrunner, Banshee Queen of the Forsaken (Banshee) 2:33 Kel'Thuzad, Master of the Cult of the Damned 3:10 Kel'Thuzad, Master of the Cult of the Damned (Ghost) 3:15 Acolyte 3:47 Ghoul 4:20 Nerubian Crypt Fiend 4:45 Gargoyle 5:26 Gargoyle (Statue) 5:29 Meat Wagon 5:55 Obsidian Statue, Tol'vir 6:25 Obsidian Destroyer, Tol'vir 6:57 Abomination 7:33 Necromancer, Human 8:12 Banshee 8:47 Shade 9:23 Frost Wyrm, Undead Dragon 10:05 Sapphiron, Guardian of Naxxramas (Undead) 10:44 Death Knight (Female); Lady Nightsorrow, Lady Soulrender, Lady Dethstorm, Lady Maldazzar, Lady Darkhallow, Lady Lightstalker, Baroness Bloodbane, Baroness Felblade, Dutchess Illanna Dreadmoore, Ebon Blade Archivist, Dutchess Ragereaver, Baroness Frostfel, Lady Darkscythe, Dutchess Wintermaul, Baroness Perenolde and Baroness Morte 11:26 Lich; Ordin Frostbane, Ras Splinterspine, Morbent Fell, Rage Winterchill, Lich Commander of the Scourge, Araj the Summoner, Kali'naj Dethknell, Rak Coldskull, Din Frostfire, Calis Wraithson, Venim Iceblade, Naze the Eternal, Ras Frostwhisper, Overseer of Scholomance Academy, Coldreaver, Cho'Nammoth, Kryptikk Soulslayer andAlandil Lieng, 11:59 Nerubian Crypt Lord; Thebis-Ra, Typhis-Ahn, Anubiros, Memphis-Ahn, Horus'aman, Nephri'thos, Arak-arahm, Tuten'arak and Pharoh-moth 12:29 Nathrezim Dreadlord; Terrordar, Nerothos, Bleakill, Necros, Fearoth, Dethecus, Maldibion, Nochthitus, Gholbine, Rashgarroth, Aramachus, Zilfallon, Lorthiras, Zenedar, Mullioch, Algammon, Banehallow, Leader of the Shadow Council and Ven'Gyr 13:00 Dark Ranger; Anya Eversong, Nara Pathstrider, Anthis Sunbow, Clea Deathstrider, Cyndia Hawkspear, Mira Shadewither, Amora Eagleye, Siren Ghostsong, and Somand Wayfinder 13:32 Death Knight; Lord Nightsorrow, Lord Soulrender, Lord Dethstorm, Lord Maldazzar, Cult of the Damned, Lord Darkhallow, Lord Lightstalker, Baron Bloodbane, Baron Felblade, Duke Dreadmoore, Duke Ragereaver, Baron Frostfel, Lord Darkscythe, Duke Wintermaul, Baron Perenolde and Baron Morte 14:00 Zombie (Male/Female) 14:46 Skeleton Warrior and Skeleton Mage 15:35 Carrion Beetle (Level 1-3) 16:05 Fallen Priest / Deciever / Heretic 16:37 Dark Minion (Level 1-3) 17:09 Revenant; Fire Revenant , Lightning Revenant, Frost Revenant / Ice Revenant, Death Revenant, Revenant of the Tides / Revenant of the Seas / Revenant of the Depths / Deeplord Revenant, The Guardian 18:06 Skeletal Orc / Skeletal Orc Grunt / Skeletal Orc Champion 18:43 Skeleton Warrior / Giant Skeleton Warrior and Skeleton Archer / Burning Archer / Skeletal Marksman
Yeah, the people did not keep the spirit and the style of the original. Look at face of Arthas, for example. The old one was lifeless and full of spite and malice, new one looks like he did not sleep very well.
I haven't had the chance to play reforged yet but I don't like how the luminous effect on heroes looks less shiny. In the old graphics, Heroes's weapons too had that shiny effect but now they've removed it.
@@lyonvensa they haven't really held them. more like those daggers were attached to their waists. also, i do remember the dagger icon in sacrificial pit but never noticed them on acolytes, lol
Absolutely incredible! Thank you for sharing! I would just change one thing - turn off the volume here and put on Warcraft 3 Undead Soundtrack on the background while watching 👌👌👌
The talent and skill from the team that made Reforged is pretty good. The issue here is Blizzard that didn't give precise orders in what they wanted. readability wasn't something they asked for when they gave the order of new models.
Also, I found some unique models when turning the violence mod off, especially a frost wyrm with skin, who looks actually pretty nice ! It doesn't affect every model, but it might be interesting to watch ^^
They have a time to make Female Death knight but they doesn't have a time to differentiate Death knight Arthas's model and normal Death knight model. It's a very very disappointing. This is the worst thing in the reforged version.
Aside from couple of things - like surprised look on the obsidian statue, unthreatening claws on the crypt lord, weird looking acolytes, etc - i think they did a great job. You can definitely tell it’s not blizzards hands, but a good job none the less.
While the new models look good, it seem like they forgot what game they were for. So much so that they stand out now as if they were intended for another game all together. They also lost some of the character from the original. I remember the ghouls originally having such exaggerated motion whenever the unit responded to a command. Mostly the mouth sorta flailing around.
They look detailed, and more realistic. Which is different from good. I actually think they are way too busy with details and dark. The old models look better.
The skeletal shade is way cooler indeed. They shoud have kept it. In WoW they looked verry shapeless. I guess they kind of compromised between both consepts since the new one has the form of the WoW one and still shows some bones in order to take que from the original.
The new models have tiny heads. And the lighting is so dark you can't see anything. The only one they really nailed was anub'arak, because they didn't change the proportions.
@@yoelchristian6332 Understand this bro, the story and RPG was so good that the cartoony polygon models did suit the game. Every attack animation complemented the trivial looks. Super ultra HD Textures and models dont fit into the gameplay of this game. Hence, old Warcraft was cool.
The models really aren't bad. Maybe just need a bit of refining. It's a shame that Reforged didn't get to play out in its full potential. Maybe it would have been one of the best games of the year if it was just done properly and not seen as a quick cash grab
@Real Truth You know what, that idea sounds fucking great. Especially because i'm pretty sure there are quite a lot of people that have never really played Warcraft 1 or 2. Most probably played only WC III and WoW
There are stuff that I like and don't about Reforged graphic changes - but I simply love classic unit UI icons. They (in my opinion) looks much better then the model using new ones
Of all the things wrong with WC3 R, the models of the units weren't one of them. Hell, I love what they did with them. Now if the rest of the game showed such polish. Including the damn environment.
exactly, blizzard literally just bought these models from another company and introduced it into the old warcraft 3 engine and expect everyone to buy the "new remaster" when the entire game looks exactly the same as the old one thats some next level stupidity
To me these models are not even very good. Most have entirely too much detail all over, making them cluttered and hard to read. People often confuse graphic fidelity for good visual design.
The irony, the one thing that didn't need it THAT much got the best overhaul, yet all the things we wanted changed were left to the dust. The models are still great, but they don't fit the worlds they are in, the game feels outdated which is all the more obnoxious because there WAS care put into making all these high quality models and then... nothing
Reforged models look great up close but too bad it doesn't work looking from way far up. WC3 classic looked and still looks great today. One of the best graphics in a game, still looks amazing today. The cartoonish look also captures the spirit of warcraft better. Reforged is basically fan art.
@@diamondmetal3062 Yeah, but they could've not made the same mistake twice. The new generic Paladin looks different enough from Uther. Why not give a similar makeover to the Death Knight?
Excellent video, thanks for your work! I love that the old models are still really good looking given the hardware limitations at the time. The game designers should be proud. I know lots of people don't like Reforged (I don't really understand why) but c'mon, the newer models are really awesome to look at and the animations are great. I wish some of my favourite games would get this kind of treatment. I'm thinking about Battle Realms, an awesome RTS that was released just before W3. Keep the game mechanics, update the graphics and "voilà !". Thanks for the videos.
You know, there is a irony of how they tried to go for more realism in the designs, when after WoW came out a big complaint many had for nonwarcraft games was how much their graphical design was made to look cartoony. ALso, the Dreadlord was far more fashionable in original than new.
Compared to the other races, I find I dislike more of the "upgraded" models. Some are good. Some are just fine. Others just aren't that great. Kel'thuzad's human form is a great example. The giant horns on the skull helm were iconic to him/Necromancer units. And the remodel ditches them entirely for a relatively tiny set of horns you'll barely be able to see in action. Readability suffered, a lot. But the one constant is that ALL units have horribly dull color palettes now which not only eschews the WarCraft art style but makes them blend in too much with one another/the terrain. I'm really tired of the trend in seemingly all game model revamps/remasters that the color palletes have to be subdued and more "realistic", even if it completely kills the original aesthetic. Original model features lots of bright purple and gold? You get dark violet and bronze. Model carries a lot of bright red and white? You'll get burgundy and grey.
My favorite undead have always been the abomination since I was 9, and I’m 20 now lol, doesn’t matter for my age, but they were always cool and scary looking when I was younger when I would play WOW
A lot of people complained about the new models, I think they look great. Shame they couldn't keep the game as it was though. Don't force people to use the newer. Also warforged should've worked exactly as the original did, just a graphical overhaul, which they didn't.
Love the work you did. Only two more to go. Not to put a dampener on you but there are some things that are missing from your videos, such as naval units such as ship, evolution chain on certain units (Could be wrong) and aligned Creep/Neutral Units. If you're looking for anything you missed, Wowpedia, Wowhead, Arcane, LeystTV, Starfals, and others could be of use. I won't get started buildings, cause I'm sure you have a plan. I'm guessing that when you're done with all of it you're going to try and do a little movie, a compaliation of each faction in one video. Hope you're doing great on this Hallow's End.
The new models look good but they are all the same color scheme and it will be difficult to distinguish them in the game. All have Golden patterns and dark blue colors. And the increased detail is not visible from afar and does not make sense
Did they improve this game yet? Can you keybind stuff? I bought it when it came out in January, played it once and haven't since. Looks like they improved some of the models.
Dev 1: what should we do about death female kinght Dev 2: just give Arthas tits, lipstick and eyelashes Edit: 1 yes i meant both models 2 your welcome for giving you that image in your head
@@Aztonio I know, because Blizzard didn't give any direction for company that acually made that models. Because they were busy making money. They should made also gender bend version of every character in this game. Like Jaina or archimonde. I mean shovel Knight acually made that kind of mode.
@@zerlichr426 I speak about the 2 news models in classic style, obviously they didn't have to give this work to another campagny, theses are just little modifications as "placeholders" in classic mode for the brand new product in Reforged mode, they didn't need any more direction, and that's just funny how it looks but we don't need to care more about theses. For the gender bend version I'd like to have them too, mostly for units like grunt, etc. ... But anyway, it's much new things for Warcraft 3, maybe for Warcraft 4... Oh yes, Blizzard tried to put a step back in rts but they missed and have been harassed for this, so now, I think they won't try to give anything new for this community...
@@Aztonio Aperantly Warcraft 3 title of "best game ever made" was also a placeholder Also yeah they add stuff to make this game acually sell because of how much back lash it got and refunds there were. I mean there is whole site that makes fun of it.
Such a shame that these awesome models and model variants end up not fitting the game we all love at all. I'd have given my 2 legs for extra official models when I was a kid and made custom content in this game
solo en reforged, te da la opcion de jugar con los modelos clasicos y te da ese y el de la cazadora de demonios (pero la verdad es que ambos estan muy chafas, hay modelos custom que son mejores XD)
what difference does it make when they all look the same zoomed out while playing, who the hell GIVES a damn how detailed they make it when you can't tell anything apart.
I give a damn, in fact Starcraft 2 has very nice and detailed graphic and you can easily tell them apart, and Starcraft 2 came out 10 YEARS AGO. What the hell is wrong with blizzard
Man.. Seeing these again just makes me sad. IF they just would have done what they promised, it would have been so good. I honestly always liked both models. Old being nostalgic, but the new reminding me of Skyrim.
Yeah, it's cool. Like we can control 2 races at once. But we r still limited by food. Sylvanas is better than banshee, sylvanas can keep using "charm" without being limited by food. So yeah, basically by using sylvanas, we can have mountain giant, wyvern, tauren and lots without worrying being limited 😁
They're all really goood... especially that Dark Ranger :3 The only one I didn't like was the shade, they "fleshed" it out a bit too much, I like the more skeletal shade. The acolyte also looks a bit too regal, he looks like he's higher in the chain of command than the necromancer. Maybe they could've switched the heretic with the skull for the acolyte, and made the acolyte model the one for the higher ranking heretic.
![Arthas Takes Frostmourne & Becomes The Lich King - All Cinematics in Order [World of Warcraft]](/img/n.gif)
Back in the day, my kid eyes saw the old models just like the way they look on reforged.
No, they didn't.
I think you needed glasses when you were a kid.
@@Oscar-j6b Dude this game came out in 2002. Back then this game looked insanely good and leagues ahead of its time and to this day I still reckon the original looks better than reforged in certain aspects. So saying that he should’ve had glasses as a kid doesn’t really hold much value as kid in 2002 would’ve thought this game looked amazing for the time.
@@Adoring-Fan i was 14 at the time i thought the terrain looked really good but the models were ok-ish
Same
Models are of very high quality. However, in my opinion, the palette of the models is not so bright as in the classic leading to "blending" with the backgrounds. In classic, models were rough and cartoonish, and as a result the one would never fail to distinguish one model from another or to find them on the battleground. These models are great for rpg style of game, but for rts I guess they need some bright colors or extra rough angles.
They have....in the form of the circular aura colored ones....
Yup they need to increase the brightness on especially the whites
I love you 😘❤️
Also little things like taking out the Obsidian Statue/Destroyer's lightning effect on their scepter gems.
Yeah definitely not fit for rts, it work great at custom map
Its pretty amazing how readable and functional the older models are
my man i just looked at a steaming pile that is the old models they look terrible
@@MurrmorMeerkatok, clown
pfp....
there are better forms of media to consume than anime...
Jajajajaja what?
denial
High Quality as always. I love how you always set up the background
Old Ghoul still looks perfect for me.
Same man, I like the old one cuz it looks like the corpse is still fresh due to the color while in Reforged they look like they're your leftovers that you forgot about.
Exactly
I miss the Old Ghoul
Me too
Same
I used to get the banshee to possess the worker of the enemy base, i bring it back and have it construct another base. Then i have undead base and orc, elf or human base. Sometimes the builder will not be able to build anything
Lol, I thought I was the only one doing that, good ol'day
Same😂
I love doing that
@@parkmojo6168 km
@@Minelegend-xh4rc kmm
@@Penta213 ?😂
What,I just feel like the ruler of that match.
6:58 : Abominations
In my opinion, the most frightening detail about the abominations was their big right eye, and unfortunately the reforged model missed that part.
Damn I still get chills when I think about Patchwerk wandering in Naxxramas.
I don't know man, the old version looks more dumb-adorable but the new one is more horrific, proper undead brute.
@@roving_gnome but the new one needs to be more bright or have bright colors because you can't see his details on his model as if he is covered by shadows or something, the old one is supposed to be the old cartoony creepy graphic looks
Is nobody going to mention the fact that the new death knight hero model has Frostmourne instead of some normal runeblade?
Yeah, many people complain about that. There's was supposed to have basic Death Knight model like other Basic Heroes but it was cut short, so they settle on using Arthas's model in the end. I imagine the design was like a hooded rider with the typical runeblade.
Hol up
@@artisticbang9111 Runeblade*
@@artisticbang9111 I was originally thinking it'll look closer to Warcraft 2's Death-Knight with a mage like sytche instead.
@@artisticbang9111 So they have time to make female death knight, but not to make some changes in Arthas model?
It's almost 2021 now and I'm still playing the OG Ver. :')
Because there's no crack version of the Reforge LoL
Its 2021 and im still playing warcarft 3 frozen throne
I just replayed some of campaign from nostalgia today
@@cinecastmedia :'''')
@@dendiepie1547 𝚂𝚊𝚖𝚎 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚖𝚎( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
So I guess Frostmourne is just getting mass produced for all male death knights.
Pathetic
Naw, it's just Arthas fanboys buying his merch
The problem is the animation. The new one got no soul. The old one is very vivid and detailed.
You nailed it, the new one is soulless compared to the previous one, I start to understand why they say Blizzard nowadays doesn't understand gamers, or even games anymore.
Well. That's the current blizzard to you. Possessed by Activision and China money
@@archravenineteenseventeen ugh china again
Plus Vanilla Ghoul and Abomb had this unnatural vibe to them the reforged ones don't got.
0:09 King Arthas Menethil, Death Knight of the Scourge (Evil)
0:50 Underking Anub'arak the Traitor King
1:24 Kel'Thuzad, Archlich of Naxxramas (Lich)
1:59 Dark Lady Sylvanas Windrunner, Banshee Queen of the Forsaken (Evil)
2:28 Dark Lady Sylvanas Windrunner, Banshee Queen of the Forsaken (Banshee)
2:33 Kel'Thuzad, Master of the Cult of the Damned
3:10 Kel'Thuzad, Master of the Cult of the Damned (Ghost)
3:15 Acolyte
3:47 Ghoul
4:20 Nerubian Crypt Fiend
4:45 Gargoyle
5:26 Gargoyle (Statue)
5:29 Meat Wagon
5:55 Obsidian Statue, Tol'vir
6:25 Obsidian Destroyer, Tol'vir
6:57 Abomination
7:33 Necromancer, Human
8:12 Banshee
8:47 Shade
9:23 Frost Wyrm, Undead Dragon
10:05 Sapphiron, Guardian of Naxxramas (Undead)
10:44 Death Knight (Female); Lady Nightsorrow, Lady Soulrender, Lady Dethstorm, Lady Maldazzar, Lady Darkhallow, Lady Lightstalker, Baroness Bloodbane, Baroness Felblade, Dutchess Illanna Dreadmoore, Ebon Blade Archivist, Dutchess Ragereaver, Baroness Frostfel, Lady Darkscythe, Dutchess Wintermaul, Baroness Perenolde and Baroness Morte
11:26 Lich; Ordin Frostbane, Ras Splinterspine, Morbent Fell, Rage Winterchill, Lich Commander of the Scourge, Araj the Summoner, Kali'naj Dethknell, Rak Coldskull, Din Frostfire, Calis Wraithson, Venim Iceblade, Naze the Eternal, Ras Frostwhisper, Overseer of Scholomance Academy, Coldreaver, Cho'Nammoth, Kryptikk Soulslayer andAlandil Lieng,
11:59 Nerubian Crypt Lord; Thebis-Ra, Typhis-Ahn, Anubiros, Memphis-Ahn, Horus'aman, Nephri'thos, Arak-arahm, Tuten'arak and Pharoh-moth
12:29 Nathrezim Dreadlord; Terrordar, Nerothos, Bleakill, Necros, Fearoth, Dethecus, Maldibion, Nochthitus, Gholbine, Rashgarroth, Aramachus, Zilfallon, Lorthiras, Zenedar, Mullioch, Algammon, Banehallow, Leader of the Shadow Council and Ven'Gyr
13:00 Dark Ranger; Anya Eversong, Nara Pathstrider, Anthis Sunbow, Clea Deathstrider, Cyndia Hawkspear, Mira Shadewither, Amora Eagleye, Siren Ghostsong, and Somand Wayfinder
13:32 Death Knight; Lord Nightsorrow, Lord Soulrender, Lord Dethstorm, Lord Maldazzar, Cult of the Damned, Lord Darkhallow, Lord Lightstalker, Baron Bloodbane, Baron Felblade, Duke Dreadmoore, Duke Ragereaver, Baron Frostfel, Lord Darkscythe, Duke Wintermaul, Baron Perenolde and Baron Morte
14:00 Zombie (Male/Female)
14:46 Skeleton Warrior and Skeleton Mage
15:35 Carrion Beetle (Level 1-3)
16:05 Fallen Priest / Deciever / Heretic
16:37 Dark Minion (Level 1-3)
17:09 Revenant; Fire Revenant
, Lightning Revenant, Frost Revenant / Ice Revenant, Death Revenant, Revenant of the Tides / Revenant of the Seas / Revenant of the Depths / Deeplord Revenant, The Guardian
18:06 Skeletal Orc / Skeletal Orc Grunt / Skeletal Orc Champion
18:43 Skeleton Warrior / Giant Skeleton Warrior and Skeleton Archer / Burning Archer / Skeletal Marksman
0:09 abaddon
0:50 nyx assassin
1:24 lich
1:59 drow ranger
3:10 necrophos
3:47 lifestealer
6:25 outworld destroyer
6:57 pudge
8:12 death prophet
10:05 winter wyvern
14:00 undying
14:46 pugna
16:37 wraith king
17:09 razor
Warcraft three was the first game I ever played,brings back memories
Is this normal that I still prefer playing with the old graphics...?
Yeah, the people did not keep the spirit and the style of the original. Look at face of Arthas, for example. The old one was lifeless and full of spite and malice, new one looks like he did not sleep very well.
I haven't had the chance to play reforged yet but I don't like how the luminous effect on heroes looks less shiny. In the old graphics, Heroes's weapons too had that shiny effect but now they've removed it.
is normal. They changed designs. They show off diferents
But I think Kel'thusad lioks better
@@legio1942 Bruh...really? that's your complaining ?
Me 15 years ago:
Me now: THE ACOLYTES HAVE DAGGERS??
Also, jeez those revenants looks incredibly cool.
They are basically cultist it would be weird if they didnt have daggers
@@gamesyes9352 I know from the Sacrificial Pit icon that they might have a dagger, but I never noticed them holding it in the original.
@@lyonvensa they haven't really held them. more like those daggers were attached to their waists. also, i do remember the dagger icon in sacrificial pit but never noticed them on acolytes, lol
That's explain why acolyte have higher damage than peasants and peon
@@01.ahmadzlatanibrahimovic52 despite those two having axes and pickaxes
Absolutely incredible! Thank you for sharing! I would just change one thing - turn off the volume here and put on Warcraft 3 Undead Soundtrack on the background while watching 👌👌👌
Nostalgia when i saw my dad playing this game while i was a child i never knew there was a story behind it and all i did was play custom maps.
Really shows you the difference in skills and talent that the classic team could do much more with much less than the reforged team.
The talent and skill from the team that made Reforged is pretty good. The issue here is Blizzard that didn't give precise orders in what they wanted. readability wasn't something they asked for when they gave the order of new models.
More like "Warcraft Retarded"
Awesome series of videos, hopefully we will se the rest of Reforged model comparisons
I've been waiting for this one :D
13:05 it's so beautiful
Simp
@@jarlbob3191 Absolutely
@@jarlbob3191 how can someone be a simp for few pixels ? It doesnt make sense
Old Pudge still perfect, look at this eye, it killin' me
Also, I found some unique models when turning the violence mod off, especially a frost wyrm with skin, who looks actually pretty nice ! It doesn't affect every model, but it might be interesting to watch ^^
Hold on, where in Classic could you find a female death knight?
I think they remade the model using the engine from the old warcraft 3 for continuity between games
They made a female DK and a female DH with the old style especially for that, and that's pretty funny xD
@@Aztonio yet they used Arthas's model for Male DKs
Smh
Yeah i dont remember that when i played Warcraft 3 back in late 2000s. Arthas was the only Death Knight from my memory
They have a time to make Female Death knight but they doesn't have a time to differentiate Death knight Arthas's model and normal Death knight model. It's a very very disappointing. This is the worst thing in the reforged version.
Aside from couple of things - like surprised look on the obsidian statue, unthreatening claws on the crypt lord, weird looking acolytes, etc - i think they did a great job. You can definitely tell it’s not blizzards hands, but a good job none the less.
They look good up close, when you zoom back, like in a normal game, some models looks the same as others and it’s hard to tell which is which
Not Blizzard’s hands? Did they outsource this bit to a different company?
@@MrEmmanuel217 yes
While the new models look good, it seem like they forgot what game they were for. So much so that they stand out now as if they were intended for another game all together.
They also lost some of the character from the original. I remember the ghouls originally having such exaggerated motion whenever the unit responded to a command. Mostly the mouth sorta flailing around.
agreed
It was supposed to be an Overhaul until Blizzard move all the budget out of Warcraft 3 Reforged to another project
I agree.. I'm kinda disappointed that they had a big lower jaw with sharp teeth.. now it's hardly noticeable
They look detailed, and more realistic. Which is different from good.
I actually think they are way too busy with details and dark. The old models look better.
8:46 Original shade looks much more currect... The updated ones... It's an bodybuildier shade? Or maybe Spawn or Venom?... Huh...
It's the standard look of the shade since WoW vanilla
The skeletal shade is way cooler indeed. They shoud have kept it. In WoW they looked verry shapeless. I guess they kind of compromised between both consepts since the new one has the form of the WoW one and still shows some bones in order to take que from the original.
It's the elemental model
The old shade also has large muscular arms.
Наконец-то чел. Я ждал это видео 10000 лет!
The new models have tiny heads. And the lighting is so dark you can't see anything.
The only one they really nailed was anub'arak, because they didn't change the proportions.
Agreed
Imo Kel'Thuzad is really good too
@@LautyHobo yeah kel'thuzad is dope
They went for realistic models
Yes! The heads are smaller and they are less cartoony
I Love how the Undead have a Egyptian sub-theme running there for appearently no reason...
Egypt was the origin of necromancy , even Warhammer used that if you dont count the vampire lords .
Abomination looks like Chris Walker from Outlast
The shadе in Reforged looks more like a combat unit than a recon unit.
True
Shade looks like Spawn if he lost his legs and cape
They made everything overly muscular and broad shouldered
Every character model is so cool and amazing
Result:classic>reforged
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Dude, do you have some eye problem?
@@yoelchristian6332 Understand this bro, the story and RPG was so good that the cartoony polygon models did suit the game. Every attack animation complemented the trivial looks. Super ultra HD Textures and models dont fit into the gameplay of this game. Hence, old Warcraft was cool.
The models really aren't bad. Maybe just need a bit of refining. It's a shame that Reforged didn't get to play out in its full potential. Maybe it would have been one of the best games of the year if it was just done properly and not seen as a quick cash grab
Pretty much.
@Real Truth You know what, that idea sounds fucking great. Especially because i'm pretty sure there are quite a lot of people that have never really played Warcraft 1 or 2. Most probably played only WC III and WoW
It wasn't a quick cash grab, it had bugs and some other flaws, but they have all been addressed. I have no qualms with the remaster at all.
Yeah reforge looks bland compared to the original
Also if you could, YoYo, do one of these for the dragons. The new models from Reforged were amazing and they got really underlooked.
I'll keep it in mind if I make a future video
There are stuff that I like and don't about Reforged graphic changes - but I simply love classic unit UI icons.
They (in my opinion) looks much better then the model using new ones
I feel like Undead would have been so cool if Dark Minions, Revenants and Skeleton orcs were regular units instead of ghouls and Crypt fiends.
Agreed
In frozen throne expansion we will have frozen Revenants and death Revenants.
@@saimyintmyat9373 glad to know that, it's been years since I used to play videogames, and this one was one of my favourites.
trueeeeeee
Not all undead are under the lich king. Those are all feral or rogue undead.
Of all the things wrong with WC3 R, the models of the units weren't one of them. Hell, I love what they did with them. Now if the rest of the game showed such polish. Including the damn environment.
exactly, blizzard literally just bought these models from another company and introduced it into the old warcraft 3 engine and expect everyone to buy the "new remaster" when the entire game looks exactly the same as the old one
thats some next level stupidity
The one good thing about the game made by another company lmao
To me these models are not even very good. Most have entirely too much detail all over, making them cluttered and hard to read. People often confuse graphic fidelity for good visual design.
funnily enough, it's not blizzard the one who made them.
The irony, the one thing that didn't need it THAT much got the best overhaul, yet all the things we wanted changed were left to the dust.
The models are still great, but they don't fit the worlds they are in, the game feels outdated which is all the more obnoxious because there WAS care put into making all these high quality models and then... nothing
i love those old models, they made me fall in love with the warcraft universe
When we were kids the old models looked in our eyes even better then the new models nowadays, imagination is an amazing thing.
Reforged models look great up close but too bad it doesn't work looking from way far up. WC3 classic looked and still looks great today. One of the best graphics in a game, still looks amazing today. The cartoonish look also captures the spirit of warcraft better.
Reforged is basically fan art.
i'm disappointed that the death knight is a clone of Arthas
Exactly!
Weren’t they always? Like, just with black eyes?
@@diamondmetal3062 Yeah, but they could've not made the same mistake twice. The new generic Paladin looks different enough from Uther. Why not give a similar makeover to the Death Knight?
Yes the developers were too lazy to make a new model for normal death knight 13:38
Excellent video, thanks for your work!
I love that the old models are still really good looking given the hardware limitations at the time. The game designers should be proud. I know lots of people don't like Reforged (I don't really understand why) but c'mon, the newer models are really awesome to look at and the animations are great.
I wish some of my favourite games would get this kind of treatment. I'm thinking about Battle Realms, an awesome RTS that was released just before W3. Keep the game mechanics, update the graphics and "voilà !".
Thanks for the videos.
You know, there is a irony of how they tried to go for more realism in the designs, when after WoW came out a big complaint many had for nonwarcraft games was how much their graphical design was made to look cartoony.
ALso, the Dreadlord was far more fashionable in original than new.
Fun facts : first time im playing as ANub Arak ..i thought it was two bug mating
AnuBarak Obama
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola l0l
When DotA always remember by all 90s generation even some of it didnt play
Fun fact: shades skipped leg day
Shade looks dumb af
How the fuck they gonna have spawn as a shade
@@kyt1392 It’s closer to how they look in WoW
Compared to the other races, I find I dislike more of the "upgraded" models. Some are good. Some are just fine. Others just aren't that great. Kel'thuzad's human form is a great example. The giant horns on the skull helm were iconic to him/Necromancer units. And the remodel ditches them entirely for a relatively tiny set of horns you'll barely be able to see in action. Readability suffered, a lot. But the one constant is that ALL units have horribly dull color palettes now which not only eschews the WarCraft art style but makes them blend in too much with one another/the terrain. I'm really tired of the trend in seemingly all game model revamps/remasters that the color palletes have to be subdued and more "realistic", even if it completely kills the original aesthetic. Original model features lots of bright purple and gold? You get dark violet and bronze. Model carries a lot of bright red and white? You'll get burgundy and grey.
Man nostalgia is magic. I used to think Necromancer in Classic as Shifu. My young mind of was
Just realize acolyte is holding knife after play many years ._.
me too i thought they were doing some villager pose or some shit
Me too damn...
Yo wtf 😂😂
Sylvanas windrunner my favorite undead hero back in the days its amazing to me that they made a good job on redesigning her
Amazing job :D are you going to do Humans and blood elfs? Please :D
Thanks Anthony, I dont think i make any more warcraft comparisons
My favorite undead have always been the abomination since I was 9, and I’m 20 now lol, doesn’t matter for my age, but they were always cool and scary looking when I was younger when I would play WOW
Old shade was so cool. I loved it then and i love it now.
old shade was cool ! i feel it too !
I wonder why they switched the dominant hand on some of the models.
The ghouls are my favorite reforged model. It's sad though, that none of them were made by Blizzard.
7:03 Great Daemon of Nurgle
shades looks very muscular and bulky, should have been more skeletical
you mean more slender-ish?
Well, they've kinda been standardized like that since WoW Vanilla.
They look like a protoss for some reason
wouldn't want to upset china :)
@@Nickyreaper2008 I mean they're kind of Protoss and Zerg
2:26 dang it I miss her big chest on the old model.
A lot of people complained about the new models, I think they look great. Shame they couldn't keep the game as it was though. Don't force people to use the newer. Also warforged should've worked exactly as the original did, just a graphical overhaul, which they didn't.
they did a nice job with the textures at least
It's amazing how OG Warcraft has so less definition and yet is more detailed than the reforged version
Its 2021 and im still playing warcarft 3 frozen throne
YOYO:Shows the old "deathknight female"
Me:"The what now ?"
Damn does she look good tho.
Ikr, i didn't knew that there was a female death knight
Love the work you did. Only two more to go. Not to put a dampener on you but there are some things that are missing from your videos, such as naval units such as ship, evolution chain on certain units (Could be wrong) and aligned Creep/Neutral Units. If you're looking for anything you missed, Wowpedia, Wowhead, Arcane, LeystTV, Starfals, and others could be of use. I won't get started buildings, cause I'm sure you have a plan. I'm guessing that when you're done with all of it you're going to try and do a little movie, a compaliation of each faction in one video. Hope you're doing great on this Hallow's End.
Wow. I want to play D1 with these guys XD
The new models look good but they are all the same color scheme and it will be difficult to distinguish them in the game. All have Golden patterns and dark blue colors. And the increased detail is not visible from afar and does not make sense
Did they improve this game yet? Can you keybind stuff? I bought it when it came out in January, played it once and haven't since. Looks like they improved some of the models.
no they didnt. also still no ladder, clans, profiles or even basic stats :D
Last update august 2020
The team that worked for this project was disbanded xD
Warcraft 3 reborked
@@nemou4985 So have they improved this game? My last comment was 2 years ago and I still only played it 1 time.
@@skillz0122 allegedly they just added ladder and clans, as for the rest I expect the same
I played this game back in high school and I just realized that Abomination wears no pants, it's been 20 years!!!
I want that for Defense Of The Ancients....
for me personally nostalgia plays a very big role in the decison betwen the models...
so the classics in my book just hit different
Kel'Thuzad and Frost Wyrm on reforged are on a whole other level compared to their wc3 selves
Necromancer Kel'thuzad looks damn amazing too.
Yes!, this just explains my whole childhood life lol
woa
too bad the terrain, spell animation and the environment of reforged was still bad
Good Heavens. Very beautiful. This is is very awesome.
The female death knight's face looks just hilarious in both versions
Dev 1: what should we do about death female kinght
Dev 2: just give Arthas tits, lipstick and eyelashes
Edit:
1 yes i meant both models
2 your welcome for giving you that image in your head
@@zerlichr426 we don't need the image in our head, we already have this classic trans Arthas in front of us xD
They also did that with Illidan too
@@Aztonio I know, because Blizzard didn't give any direction for company that acually made that models. Because they were busy making money.
They should made also gender bend version of every character in this game. Like Jaina or archimonde.
I mean shovel Knight acually made that kind of mode.
@@zerlichr426 I speak about the 2 news models in classic style, obviously they didn't have to give this work to another campagny, theses are just little modifications as "placeholders" in classic mode for the brand new product in Reforged mode, they didn't need any more direction, and that's just funny how it looks but we don't need to care more about theses.
For the gender bend version I'd like to have them too, mostly for units like grunt, etc. ... But anyway, it's much new things for Warcraft 3, maybe for Warcraft 4... Oh yes, Blizzard tried to put a step back in rts but they missed and have been harassed for this, so now, I think they won't try to give anything new for this community...
@@Aztonio Aperantly Warcraft 3 title of "best game ever made" was also a placeholder
Also yeah they add stuff to make this game acually sell because of how much back lash it got and refunds there were.
I mean there is whole site that makes fun of it.
I only just realised that classic acolytes held knives. I initially thought adding knives was good design choice for the remaster
Shoulder pads really became a big thing huh?
All enhanced greatly, except for Death Knight i think i prefer the old version as it made him look more dracula like.
Imagine playing DotA 1 on Reforged
Acolyte still coughing since 20 years ago
He started the pandemic lol
When i play dota 2 .sometimes I still use the warcraft name....
Its stuck on my brain
yup, classic name is the best. i tend to confuse new players when i call bloodseeker "strygwyr" hahah
Such a shame that these awesome models and model variants end up not fitting the game we all love at all.
I'd have given my 2 legs for extra official models when I was a kid and made custom content in this game
Ngl, Dark Ranger is more way badass than Sylvanas, and I damn like it.
10:45 Disculpen si la pregunta les suena estúpida pero acaso ahí alguna forma de desbloquear a ese personaje en el Warcraft 3 original?
solo en reforged, te da la opcion de jugar con los modelos clasicos y te da ese y el de la cazadora de demonios (pero la verdad es que ambos estan muy chafas, hay modelos custom que son mejores XD)
@@gonzy3557 Gracias
Revenants actually became right handed in reforged.
I heard that Warcraft III and its prequels are getting remastered, perhaps videos like this for the Alliance, Neutral and Buildings can work?
Es natural preferir el juego clasico, porque es dificil cambiar de un dia para otro, pero yo creo que me puedo acostumbrar al reforged.
la verdad los modelos del reforged estan geniales, creo que nomas las odian por el hate a reforged
i dont understand why the game got too many critics, there are so good grafics!
what difference does it make when they all look the same zoomed out while playing, who the hell GIVES a damn how detailed they make it when you can't tell anything apart.
Because you ain't an RTS gamer
I give a damn, in fact Starcraft 2 has very nice and detailed graphic and you can easily tell them apart, and Starcraft 2 came out 10 YEARS AGO. What the hell is wrong with blizzard
The terrain and background what make it looks bad
Ese Warcraft Refoged tiene el Frozen Throne incluido?
The remnants are still the coolest ones.
Oh cool are those dota 2 references? Noice!
Woah!! Invincible looks way more horror
Man.. Seeing these again just makes me sad. IF they just would have done what they promised, it would have been so good. I honestly always liked both models. Old being nostalgic, but the new reminding me of Skyrim.
Abomination and Shadow - more creepy and cool in original WC3
Don't forget Ghouls, Gargoyles and Nerubian Crypt Fiends
can't wait to see Warcraft mods
Keep going!
I miss the days when i use the banshee to possess enemy builder to use their troops and building
Yeah, it's cool. Like we can control 2 races at once. But we r still limited by food. Sylvanas is better than banshee, sylvanas can keep using "charm" without being limited by food. So yeah, basically by using sylvanas, we can have mountain giant, wyvern, tauren and lots without worrying being limited 😁
They're all really goood... especially that Dark Ranger :3
The only one I didn't like was the shade, they "fleshed" it out a bit too much, I like the more skeletal shade. The acolyte also looks a bit too regal, he looks like he's higher in the chain of command than the necromancer. Maybe they could've switched the heretic with the skull for the acolyte, and made the acolyte model the one for the higher ranking heretic.
9:56 Not Wyrms anymore.