Vocal Coach Reaction - Nightwish 'The Poet and the Pendulum'
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This song was written after they fired Tarja and the backlash that ensued. It was particularly rough on Tuomas who composed and wrote the lyrics. This song is about his depression and suicidal thoughts during that time. He will often cut the vocals out of his in-ears when they perform this. The song was away of killing himself without actually doing it.
Marco has been singing/playing since the 80s starting with his band Tarot. He's a a very underrated vocalist in my opinion. Try the Islander live at Tampere or High Hopes from End of and Era for more Marco goodness.
Erica Connors Didn’t know she was fired thought she just quit
@@theophany1770 it was a huge mess but the gist of it is at one point she told them she would only do one more album but no touring to support it. She started focusing on her solo career and a huge rift was created. All the other members decided it was time and fired her with an open letter. Tuomas got the brunt of the media and fan backlash. Everyone envolved now agrees it could have been handled better and that is why you will see a lot of contention with NW fans.
Annette was not fired, she quit during a tour after Imaginarium due to a breakdown.
Named my dog Marco
@@wren180: Also, on this same album, "Dark Passion Play", two more songs were written by Tuomas Holopainen, about the dismissal of Tarja, and her soon to be husband. "Bye, Bye Beautiful" is about Tarja, and "Master, Passion, Greed" is a song about the future husband of Tarja. Tuomas got his payback!
11:24 anyone else wishing he'd just stop talking and listen, or pause and keep talking rather than missing an important part of the song?
Tuomas has said in an interview that he had two options. He would either commit suicide or write a song where he would kill himself. Thank god he made this masterpiece. ❤️
Yes...and that choice !
Tuomas had to make the hardest decision of his lifetime: kicking his old schoolmate out of the band or disbanding the band. He decided that without Tarja the band has an uncertain future but with her it has no future at all. It really hurted his heart to make this decision and when it was made and he felt really miserable about it, he got so much hatred as a reaction. That situation can destroy anyone. And despite what happened he still likes Tarja and hopes that their relationship will be alright again one day.
@@Nikioko I read that she was constantly threatening to quit and start her solo career. I guess he just got tired of hearing it.
@@jamesanderson5268 The situation was a bit more complicated. Solo career yes, but "constantly threatening" no. The plan when she was to leave the band for her solo career was fix, so there was enough time for looking for replacements, no need to kick her early. The problem was that there were tensions because of her husband who had too much bad influence on her. Maybe you should read Tuomas' open letter that describes the situation quite well.
Fun fact Floor is not only an amazing singer but she is also a vocal coach
and she obviously knows what she is doing
Nice reaction!
Want to be on a boat with these guys?
Can be done: "Yours is an empty hope" live, the official video to the song is from a performance they did on the Baltic Princess Cruise liner.
Its a heavy song where Marco Hietala, the base player, does the clean vocals and Floor does the deep growling parts.
Quite something different, but highly enjoyable.
Yeah he definitely should do that!
Everytime I listen to this song, I get tears in my eyes. She can drive me into emotions like no other. Great reaction once again.
Me too.
Aaron A. Foster ditto
Romanticide
Yes!
Amen!
DO IT!
Thank you for reacting to my favorite band. I have one suggestion: Pause the song when you're talking, because you miss the beauty of the music. This is not ordinary music which you can talk and listen at the same time. Especially this song which has a lot of details. It's a real piece of art.
I agree. He missed the entire part about Tuomas' metaphorical suicide because he was talking all over it.
That will also help prevent automatic content blocks.
I agree...
Yep
He missed the complete song. In my eyes he has only listened to the the use of the voices.
Indeed pause the song while talking and he can experience so much more as he did.
Kudos! You are the first person I’ve seen pick up on the choir boy part in the beginning. That’s exactly what it is.
Still feel like they should have just ripped Marco's vocals from the demo version and put them there...
I was on 2 concerts of them live its awesome the whole atmosphere. Goosebumps everywhere on of the best live Bands in my opinion. And floor looks always great.
Love your reactions. It's awesome to have knowledgeable people react to Nightwish. People who know what's going on and really appreciate it.
Nothing like a vocal coach talking over half of the vocals. Brilliant.
You talk a lot, mostly without pausing the video, so you miss a lot of stuff. I'm a little disappointed.
With this particular song I'm disappointed a lot
Just watching this for the first time 11 months later and it's the first thing I noticed and commented on right away. A vocal coach talking over half the vocals. Brilliant.
there is so much more behind this song than meets the eye. It may very easily be one of the most emotional song that has been ever written.
It is really worthy to learn background about this song
Yeah, it is soundtrack. Soundtrack of Tuomas (he is the main composer and songwriter) life and what was happening with group at that time.
The intro is not Floor. It would be awesome that she records that part too. This song is so emotional and Floor transmits all those feelings Tuomas wanted to express through this song. In this song you can appreciate different Floor's voice styles.
I appreciate you diving into the vocal talent needed for this but you might have just missed the emotional weight of this song while you were doing so.
For yourself I’d suggest reading up on the backstory to this song and listening to it again with the lyrics up. That’ll help you really appreciate just how much of a masterpiece this is.
I agree. First time I heard Poet and the Pendulum, I thought great song. After learning the back story and getting familiar with the lyrics, I get chills every time.
Well said, Monkeyboy!!
If you want to hear more of Marco (the bass player), you should check out The Islander (live at Tampere) or Nightwish's cover of Phantom of the Opera (live at End of an Era) or High Hopes (also End of an Era)
Or better yet his main band Tarot.
Try Nightwish - Romanticide. You will like it!
that siren like sound by Marko and Floor is insanely good.
It may sound like a movie soundtrack, but it isn't. Tuomas is a big fan of Hans Zimmer and Vangelis(sp). Something he would like to do is write a soundtrack for a movie.Erica has given you info about the meaning of the song. She also gave you a couple of songs to hear Marco sing. They are amazing. It would be great to hear an analysis of his singing. Thanks!
Ann, I am so amazed by your vast knowledge of Nightwish. Are you head of the Nightwish fan club? Anyway your dedication is impressive. Thank you.
@@barrystewart2141 No I am not the head of the Nightwish fan club. Just a major fan of Nightwish. Thanks........
@@fdsannie Well you should be. :) Your inteview was super interesting btw. Hope we hear or see you some day again. :)
@@WarlonWinterheart Thank you. I am so overwhelmed by the support and kindness I have been receiving........
@@fdsannie Hi. I'd love to watch the interview. Where can I find it?
It's the soundtrack for Tuomas Holopainen's(composer/keyboard)life at that moment in time
One of the best songs ever! Floor nailed it and Tuomas is really a genius composer!
Wintersun - 'Sons of winter and stars Live rehearsal' if you want see that drummer in action ;) also check the vocalist vocals, that would be great!
An excellent display of a range of vocal styles in this song - definitely would be an excellent selection.
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Yeah, this one is actually a good showing of Kai's drumming as well as the band's instrumental capabilities and Jari's vocal and composing prowess. With Wintersun you can't really go wrong which ever song you'd pick to give it a go, but those 3 live rehearsals at Sonic Pump Studios from their "Time 1" album are well worth a shot.
Very very good suggestion!
Kai Hahto is indeed a very fit drummer
I was going to say the same thing. From what i understand (and im no drummer) he plays an open style which makes it less taxing on him for these long longs, and watching him with wintersun i Can umderstand why he uses this style.
Floor is so unbelievably dynamic and talented!!!!🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Seems like you enjoy Marco's vocals (bass player) a lot. You should check out some songs that hes more present in the vocals, like Seven Days to the Wolves
The Islander would be better, he is the lead on that song.
7 days to the wolves live barona areena is the best version
@@michaeldougherty2807 The live version from tempere, showed me a whole new version of him. Doing by himself with just an acoustic guitar.
Why not react for Marco on any Tarot song from Live undead indeed?
Check out Nightwish - Ever Dream (Wacken 2013). She's a killer, for sure.
Wouldn't mind being on a boat out at sea with these guys, you say? Funny you should mention that. You should give a listen to Yours Is an Empty Hope. It was recorded on a boat. Out at sea. With these guys.
OK, fine. It was recorded on a SHIP. Not a boat. Gotta keep the nautical definitions police at bay.
I suppose he walked into that one 😂
Nightwish - Ever Dream at Wacken 2013 - The drummer was working hard there :D
Great reaction, mate! Nightwish hasn't done any soundtracks as far as I know. Although they made a movie once. It included their song from the album Imaginaerum. But they left the movie business since it was so much work. Kai Hahto, the drummer might not be human at all. If you want to see him at his limits, check out Wintersun - Sons Of The Winter And Stars (live rehearsal) You should react to that song, it has quite a few different vocals. In that band the vocalist writes and composes the songs just as Tuomas Holopainen is the mastermind of Nightwish. In the first album (Wintersun) he even played all the instruments but drums.
While your lips are still red (by Tuomas and Marco) is the soundtrack for a finnish movie, sorry i don't remember the title.
Wish I had an angel was used in the Alone in the dark movie, though I'm not sure if t was written specifically for it or if they just licensed it.
The album Imaginaerium was the soundtrack to that movie of the same name.
Lieksa is movie starring Samuli Vauramo ,Peter Franzen and Jenni Banerjee , Sieg allready told title of that song.
@@michaeldougherty2807 and you are right too.
Great reaction. Marco, bass player, is superb singer too. You’ll hear him more in future Nightwish vids you are going to do.
If there is...
Thank you once again man!! Another two Nightwish masterpieces are
The greatest show on earth
Song of myself
Greetings from Argentina!
You're not wrong when you have the feeling hearing soundtrack. Tuomas not really write songs, he writes storys. Each pieces of music he writes come from a story he have in his head and he want tell with music. He said himself, in his head, he have a kind a soundtrack for a story, and write on it until he found the perfect sound, the perfect note.. An example of that, the last album, Endless Forms Most Beautiful, come the book of the same name of Richard Dawkins and all the album tell the story of life.
The voice in the beginning comes from backing track and belongs to Guy Elliott, the part starting "sparkle my scenery / with turquoise waterfall" is also done by Elliott on the album, while the whispering voice is Tom Williams (IIRC, could be Williams singing the sparkle etc part too but can't confirm right now)
I love how the guitarist and bassist go and check on Tuomas throughout the song to make sure he's ok. Bro-dependence
You are wrong about the soundtrack-idea, Tuomas the keyboardplayer wrote this when he was in a crossroad with the band(he writes all the stuff for the band) they had to let the first singer go, it was his childhood friend Tarja, and this song is all about his feelings and thougths about this.. by the way, that drummer is my best friend 😄
Boy soprano (treble) in the first part, plus the spoken part is by a boy soprano (I used to be one a zillion years ago so I know the sound). In the original version with Anette Olsen, the "Sparkle my scenario" was also sung by a boy soprano. Floor is now doing that part and she's singing lightly, imitating the boy soprano sound as best as a woman can do.
That song is such a fucking masterpiece
I’ve only just started my musical journey with NW but having heard all three singers, I have to go with Floor. Her vocals flow so much better with Marco and the music.
Carl, you should really react to Simone Simons from Epica:
Epica - Chasing The Dragon LIVE Retrospect 2013 HD
Please, please, please!
For more Marco, try "while her lips are still red" His voice was even better years ago but he had some vocal chord problems and was convinced to have an operation and the result was not quite what he hoped for sadly. Still great and their voices work well together.
Nice reaction 😊 maybe GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH IS A GOOD IDEA TO LISTEN TO? NORWAY
Next one up, The Greatest Show on Earth, live from Tampere, Finland!
The initial boy voice is actually a recording of an actual boy singing. He's supposed to represent the personification Tuomas's Innocence.
In a sense, all Nightwish songs are soundtracks, but not for movies, they are soundtrack of Tuomas's feelings and life happenings (except for While Your Lips are Still Red and the whole Imaginaerum album, they are real actual soundtracks to movies)
Her name is pronounced Floor Jansen with a soft J like "Yansen". The beginning is not Floor, everything else is. You should definitely check the backstory of this song, it's really touching!
The male singer in this is Marco Hietala and if you want to hear him sing himself, check out The Islander from their live show in Tampere! I also love him in the music video singing along with fellow musicians in the Raskasta Joulua song Heinillä Härkien Kaukalon. :)
The mother father section is such a tear jerker
I still remeber the fisrt time I heard this song! I was speechless ! Floor just signing this song so beautifully (and all Nightwish songs) Never miss a show in my City!
If you're interested about the Bassist's vocals, check out their live performance of "The Islander". It's utterly brilliant live, and shows an entirely different side of Nightwish. Keep up the great work, love your videos!
The choirboy is prerecorded. The original album version pf the song used a lot of choirboy solos bc the vocalist at the time (Annette) wasn't classically trained as Tarja and Floor are, so the band had find other ways to incorporate more classical singing
Marco is amazing in his own right. The Islander is a good example
You talked threw the most important parts of the song. This was a very serious song for Thomas and the band.
I noticed your last name is Franz. You should check out Heilung. Maria Franz is the singer she excellent. The song In Maidjan focuses on her vocals. Live at castlefest is one of the best performances I've seen.
Do “ WHILE YOURE LIPS ARE STILL RED “!!!!!!!!! I was and am obsessed with the song
Marco is really good singer. There's songs of Nightwish in which his abilities show better.
🎂 Hapy birthday!
You just talked to the whole clue of this song. Maybe you're a good vocal coach but damn, listen to the song itself.
The keyboards are tilted to be more ergonomic. If you play standing up, your wrists are in better angle, if keyboards are tilted. So I'm told :) Especially if you have two of them on top of eachother.
That is an absolute Masterpiece!!! Marco (the bass player) is a BEAST singing, just check "7 Days to the Wolves" to be blown away again by both!!
Man, I just love Marco, singing and that well and at the same playing bass in those intricate passages is pretty damn impressive.
The vocal track at the start is, I believe, their second singer Anette as this song was written during her tenure, it certainly sounds like her.
What impresses me most about the ending of this song is, she at points sounds almost identical to the previous singer who she replaced, and it's purely by technicality and skill. She's not imitating at all, her ability just makes her sound like a studio recorded original.
I think the first part comes from audio track and album sung by Anette. And no soundtrack...total masterpiece - Tuomasgasm, deep performance and emotional show of hard times of Tuomas. The awesome bass player has a name too ... pls. worth of learning it as well as the names of the original founding members of this band.
I think the "vocal coaches" should remove the word reaction. Of all what I have seen they talk / criticize talking during the middle of the video, so they do not listen to a good part. That is, they speak on top of the singer. Anyway, thanks for the video.
midi files used for the choral and orchestral stuff..the band plays the rest and floor sings as much as she can ,part in the middle when floor sings really high was a choirboy on the studio version
Because it was Annette on the lead in the studio version... her voice was just too fragile for change-ups like that, I suppose. Same tendency can be found in numerous "Imaginaerum" songs, where Floor live just takes over in the spots you had choirs fill on the studio recording. One clear instance to compare - "Storytime".
everyone is a vocal coach of all a sudden when there's a Nightwish show.
3 minutes and counting... did you count? For some contrst in Nightwish's versatility, try Storytime and Romantacide from the Wacken 2013 concert.
Talking about boats... Their song Yours is an empty hope Live was performed on cruise ship. (they had full concert there, but the best version live for that song is from that concert)
Yaaaaaay! Thanks you for the reaction! They are gorgeous, aren't they?😉
A Nightwish song is an entire story you just have to hang on and listen to each act in the play 👍
Lot of emotional weight in this song, different kind of "heavy" song for sure! Thank you for tackling this 14 minute beast :) My favourite performance by Marco (bass player) is 'The Islander' (live at Tampere). Very nice Jethro Tull-ish campfire-folk-song in front of 20 000 people. Just Marco and quitar. Your suggestion list gotta be quite long, but... maybe in future!
The thing is that floor can handle full on grunting throughout an entire song and after that go back to the clean vocals without effort.
Nice video and analysis. Always great to see people discovering and enjoying this great band. Time for Wintersun - sons of winter and stars (live rehearsal) spectacular? You will not regret it!
You can acctually be out at sea with these guys. Yours Is an Empty hope, live at the Baltic Princess. Floors having a great time making Siren sounds and growl in that song.
Notice how quiet the audience was during Floor's closing vocals?
The third act , wow . It never gets old to me . I hate symphonic metal , however I love NIghtwish
Please do pisces by jinjer. There will be a surprise of the singer
The voice in the beginning is a boy. Represents the scared/hiding/wounded child in the poet in the song.
Great reaction! I would love to hear your reaction to Floor and Marco's vocals on Yours is an Empty Hope from the same show. Especially the chorus!
Check Romanticide in the same concert! It's fantastic.
How can you be a voice coach if you didnt hear Marco sing untill part4 of the song?
Thank God I know the song because wow bro, you pretty much talked through the whole.song. just say'n.
its the soundtrack to part of the songwriter and keyboardist Tuomas' life. i find that looking up the story then watching it again with the lyric version on can almost bring one to tears, the lyric version is probably best for a first watch as the song has 5 parts and the title of each part comes up for example the last part is called mother and father and tells the story of Tuomas going home in his misery and his parents explaining that hardship will always come (the blade will keep on descending) but that he should focus on his gift ( you have oceans within) and the good he can do (try to save them all) remembering always that they love him (in the end i will always love you) its well worth another listen with the lyrics and knowledge of the story especially knowing now all is well with him
when Bruce Dickenson left Iron Maiden in the mid 90'2, Marco Heitla, the bassist here, was a serious candidate to be the replacement
7 days to the wolves is another good one, Marco (the bassist) has a much bigger part in that song
The original singer was Anette Olzon though, not Floor Janssen.
7:41 Have you tried playing the piano while standing? It's almost impossible because the wrists are bend. They must be as flexible as possible, that's why his pianos were inclined.
I have been on a boat with them actually. It was a cruise called 70000 tons of metal
But should has been Anette then..
They could make a movie from this song :D
There is documentary of that time when they was on tour with second singer and in the middle of tour they had to find other singer... and Floor start to work with them. So there was talking about how hard for musicians: "playing a live rock'n'roll gig can be compared to hard manual labor. The guitarist and vocalist use enough energy to dig a foxhole. Playing bass matches a meat carver's job. The drummer could as well chop wood, lay bricks."
As pointed out, Marco has been singing forever. One of his best live tracks (with Nightwish anyway) would probably be Phantom of the Opera from End of an Era
I wonder nowbody says anything about backtrack second voice.
Nice pick. :)
Great comment about being on the boat with them. Peaople actually in the past had that chance to hear them on a boat. And you actually might to react to one of the songst they filmed there.
Yours is an Empty Hope - live on Nightwish Cruise on Baltic Princess. Oh yes, you may hear Floor's harsh vocals on that one.
And for more Marco's vocals - clean this time - The Islander live in Tampere
Cheers :)
If you want to hear more of Marco's (the bass player) singing then you should check out Nightwish - The Islander Live at Tampere
That bass player Marco is also a lead singer of a band called Tarot. Might want to check it out. Also their heavy Christmas Carol tour Raskasta Joulua.
If you want to hear more of Marco (the bassist/King of Vikings), you should check out "The Islander" live @ Tampere, "High Hopes" live @ Hartwell Arena 2005, "Seven Days to the Wolves", live @ Wembley, Last Ride of the Day, live @ Wacken 2013 and Weak Fantasy, live @ Tampere. This guy can SING ;-)
This is a soundtrack for the keyboardist's metaphorical suicide. That's basically how he describes the song. He was deeply depressed after firing the first singer and a childhood friend from the band, but he couldn't commit a suicide in real life, so he has done it in a song.
Nightwish drums are actually very moderate. If he wasn't in stage he would probably not break a sweat. Look up speed drumming and be amazed.
Marco Hietala is singing also in his own groups like Tarot (you must see song tides live from dvd undead indeed), powerless trio, northern kings and many many more like guest. He is the real voice of finland!
Hi.
If you like the drummer. Check out his original band Wintersun and for example the song Time...
Greatings
Speaking of being on a boat with Nightwish, This is a Marco, Troy & Floor playing some cover versions on board M/S Baltic Princess. :-)
Definitely listen to "The Islander" live at Tampere, probably the best example of his vocal talent!