Hello everyone! Hope you're all doing well. I'd really like to address a few comments i've recieved, and some i'll more than likely get in the future... So when I recorded this reaction, I actually asked the NW discord server to help me pick out a series of videos, and this one was always earmarked for "Do it once you know a bit more about Nightwish", but when it came to which one to pick, I'd forgotten what it was about Poet that was important, just that it *was* important, so I picked it to do on this day. Now the reason that I had a complete brain fart and jumped into this song with both feet is that I was probably at my most medicated at this point. I was having spinal issues at the time, and was on neuropathic painkillers and tramadol, and ended up on them for months. It was grim, I was basically a zombie, I would have times where I just lay in a heap and try and block out the pain (even on these painkillers, it never let up). I couldn't sleep more than a couple of broken hours sleep a night, and I was at my wits end. Turns out I actually ended up with Central Sensitization, which is where your central nervous system goes bonkers, but anyway, I digress.... Looking back on this *now* from fresh eyes, I would have done a lot differently. I put it up because I love the band, and hope that my enthusiasm for them came through, even with a limited understanding of the piece as a whole (I tend to go into reactions "blind" as I want to get my gut feeling recorded, rather than researching and possibly influencing myself subconciously, if that makes sense). Bottom line though, if I upset or anger any of you, then I apologise unreservedly, it's NEVER my intention to offend or cause upset, so If I have, then please know I feel grim about causing that. I love the band, love the fans of the band, and I hope that I haven't done any harm. Sam x
It's nice to have full context but most people don't experience things with prior context anyway so in that way its more genuine. Great videos mate, don't let the unreasonable comments get you down!
So much better! I've been painkiller free for a few months now. Still have muscle damage from the way I was holding myself, but i'm working on using all my muscles properly again :)
To all the people scolding him for not doing the proper research. If it was mandatory for this song, it probably would have been included. You should be able to listen to a song, even this one, without a backstory. If a song is good enough, and this one is, it should hold up on it's own without anything supporting it. And finally, this man is taking the time and energy to react to something dear to us. We can like it or dislike it, but that does not give us the right to be telling him what to do. I'm seeing so much "you need to" and "you should have". No he doesn't!
I think you are absolutely right. Also knowing the backstory adds such an extra emotional level that it increases your "consumption" of the performance. So if people say to lookup the backstory, it is just because they want the reactor to experience that extra layer. But to scold a reactor who does not research is ridiculous.
Yes! I didn't know the back story when I bought the freshly published cd. And yet, I fell in love wit this particular song right away, sensed the feelings and enjoyed it with all my heart. I found out the back story way later, made me love the song even more.
I think that this song stands on itself just without the background story. However, it is fair to say that with the background story, this song can make you feel things a little deeper still. Words do have meaning and that meaning is lost when you don't know what the song is about. Also, he's a vocal coach apparently, and how can he comment on her diction and emphasis and tone when he's unaware of what the meaning of what she sings is. As for him taking the time to react to something, he's in it for the exposure and the money. Never forget that. By commenting and viewing these videos he makes money off us and Nightwish...and Nightwish is a good money maker for youtubers. That's fine mind you, but don't make it sound like he's doing it out of the goodness of his heart.
And absolutely true. That's what sets her apart from many. She has the ability to impart that emotion to the listener, no matter what she is singing. Her stage presence and command is akin to Freddie Mercury. I was fortunate enough to see Freddie and Queen well before AIDS took him from us. The same command of the audience and stage presence that Floor has. What a talented lady!
Floor herself said that she has something called High Sensitivity. She picks up on the feelings of other and takes it with her when she leaves the room.
All those comments saying that you need to/should research the lyrics and being mean about it and saying it's a bad reaction because you didn't, show me again all the parts of the internet I hate. No one of us had the context when first listening to the song, I didn't even have much context to Nightwish at the point when I first listened to Dark Passion Play, just my friends saying how great the singer is and I didn't understand it because, yeah the singer is ok but not that outstanding? When I said that to them, they told me I apparently started with the "wrong" end of NW and they meant Tarja and not Anette, but I at that point didn't even now they changed singers. So when I watch a reaction video I want the person's initial unbiased reaction and research can alter that. My first impression of NW was "yeah ok" but then I dove deeper into it and it changed my perspective. That's what context does. And it is not a bad thing to first listen without context, especially if you - as a vocal coach - focus on the technicalities of Floor's voice. You shouldn't have to apologize. You are not the first reactor to go in blind either. People just need to calm down. So for me all that is left to say is: Thank you! And I think this was a really great reaction! (Sorry that I went off on a bit of a rant there)
I agree, consuming art should be a personal experience, whether you like it or not comes down to how it speaks to you, how it meets your emotions and your mind.. I wanted to join some kind of fan club just because i love the technical aspects of the composition aspects, the orchestral stuff, how they mix it with a metal band (which is extremely tricky when you have this vast array of instruments all battling for space in a limited sound spectrum) I found a fan club and regretted it. No discussion about it with interest in the music, just mainly gushing over the singers and showing off their knowledge about the tiniest details about the band, the songs or their history. Competitive fanaticism i'd call it lol. But yes, i find it irritating when people say to you "THIS is what this song means, you should look it up" like you need to do a load of prep work before listening to a song to enjoy it to it's fullest. You could see it as soon as Human Nature came out, you had the people obsessively trying to figure out the meaning of every line so they could inform everyone else, and the people that, as usual with NW, just moan about it not being metal enough or because Harvest doesn't sound like a normal Nightwish song... like, jeez... THIS EXACT SONG talks about feeling enslaved to insatiable fans that care more about the controversy surrounding the singer drama than the actual music. Just let artists be artists, if the so-called 'die hard fans' had their way every album would sound the same and the band would be miserable. Just let Tuomas do his magic and get some enjoyment out of it. Sorry lol you got me going a bit there.
Being mean about it is obviously a shitty thing to do. Everyone listening to this should really check out the back story tho. Not for our sake but for their own, it adds such astronomical levels of emotion. If you're a lover of music you're doing yourself one of the biggest disservices ever if you don't. If they dont feel like it that's 100% their prerogative... But recommending they do is not wrong or a bad thing to do as long as your nice about it.
Dude, this was a pure reaction. Doing research and backstory is all well and good but that can really take away from the initial reaction. Be proud of how you connected with the song, and get well. There is always time for the backstory later, and it will enhance the connection you made.
God forbid a person just listens to a song to enjoy it. With all the bs in the world why even think about making this dude feel guilty. He's apologizing for nonsense. "Search for beauty, find your shore" ... hope you are on the mend! Cheers from NY!
@@Rick-ge1ri you're right, he is being a very unprofessional TH-cam reactor. He shouldn't be allowed to be excited about experiencing a new song and enjoying himself.
@@rientsdijkstra4266 Its simple, this guy is just doing his thing. TH-cam jerks come in and give him a hard time to the point where he apologizes for everything he does. I think he's great and even if he wasn't, no reason to be a jerk.
@@profjohnfrinks I simply do not understand what this is about... I think Sam Scott-Thorne does great reviews, with a nice mixture of knowledge and engament, and I do not understand why that should be a problem?? And I do not understanding who is blaming who for what? So I think we should al lighten up! keep up the good work Sam!
Aside from the meaning and beautiful delivery of Floor, I'm equally impressed by Marko.... Singing those lines and watching his fingers traveling all over that bass is incredible to keep it all going like that
I am a Nightwish fan and I think anyone who says people have to research ANY song to be able to listen to it and enjoy it as face value is just dumb, they can always research later when they fall down the rabbit hole and then they get to relisten and hear it again through a fresh lens all new like for the first time, thats a gift Id wish on anyone. Its getting them to the rabbit hole that is the thing so why would we tell people not to listen to what is one of the greatest pieces of music ive ever heard (even without knowing the meaning behind it) surely telling them to listen to this song full stop would be the fastest way to get them into the Nightwish army right?
The boy soprano at the start is Guy Elliott from St Mary's Reigate Choir School. Floor chose to sing the part "Sparkle my...." instead of the backing track..... From the whispered "3 minutes and counting" to when Tuomas "Cuts" his head off is 3 minutes!!!... Yes, even the breathing points are planned with great detail!...It is okay that you didn't know the back story - it can create a more honest and impartial reaction... Well done!
Dude, read your pinned comment and you definitely look stiff in this. I hope you're feeling better. And hell, man, you're a vocal coach doing reactions on singing, primarily; knowing the meaning behind the song is one thing, but it doesn't take away at all from what you're doing here. No problem at all with the reaction. Always appreciate your insight. Only beef I have is MORE NIGHTWISH! 😁 Would love to see a reaction on I Want My Tears Back and/or Dead Boy's Poem from Buenos Aires 2018. I think you'll love them both. Tears has a folky vibe and is just really fun. Dead Boy's Poem really showcases Floor's vocals. Lastly, you mentioned about Floor really "feeling" the music. She recently revealed - at least it's the first time I heard it - that's she's "high sensitive" and that gives her that extra emotion in her delivery that I've not seen anyone match. Here: th-cam.com/video/T68mp-Fn9Rk/w-d-xo.html You're awesome brother, stay well.
couldn't agree more with b keyser (seeing this now, 9 months later). I am interested in your (Sam's) opinion and take (I already know mine). When I first heard these songs, my take was 'awesome', it took me a few listens to put 2+2 together (others will have been faster) and get the meaning behind it, even though I knew the history. Please keep doing what you are doing :) Take care
Tuomas the keyboard player wrote this as a lyrical suicide when depressed from the reaction of sacking the 1st lead vocalist Tarja Turunen. The title is a play on the title of the Edgar Alan Poe horror story The Pit and the Pendulum, where a swinging blade slowly descends towards the victim strapped to a table beneath. The song is divided into 5 parts, The White Lands of Empathica, Home, The Pacific, Dark Passion Play , Mother and Father.
Yes. And the lyrics "I only have 3 minutes and counting" after 3 minutes he "kill's himself" on stage. In "Mother and Father" it is an actual words from Tuomakses mother.
Yes, this is a very significant song for nightwish; very lyrically personal, and yes, research prior to certainly helps understand it, BUT there is also very much to be said for "blind reactions", ESPECIALLY with nightwish, where the music is so expertly composed to lead you through emotions and, as you so aptly pointed out, Floor's tendency to FEEL EVERY NOTE SHE SINGS and her vocal ability to pass that tangibility of feeling onto the listener.....so even without the backstory or research, the listener still is VERY capable of not just enjoying this song but truely GETTING it. You have nothing to apologize for. Great reaction. By your pinned comment, it sounds like you are on the mend, but hope you continue to get better.
I don't understand half their songs I just love how they make me feel. I might look a bit further into a song but not always. Just go with the flow. This song is one where I wanted to understand it a bit better which enhanced it for me. But as you are a vocal coach I just love your appreciation of the vocals so all good. 😀👍
Yep, quite similar for me, but oh yes of all the NW songs, THIS one is imo the one which deserves the lyrics be best understood, and enjoyed with no stress, open mind... I'm nearly sure thats what most ppl suggested to Sam, but OK unlucky conditions caused that guidance go unused, never mind all will survive :)
I prefer when people react on a song without "doing research". If you get the feeling that the song tries to make you feel, then they did a bloody good job. Good reaction.
I'm glad you're on the mend. Honestly, don't waste your time on the haters. Your reaction was fine and your research, or lack thereof, is irrelevant. I knew nothing about this piece when I first heard it; it still had a huge emotional impact. Because of that, I went back to try to understand it later and only then did I learn the back story. That knowledge increased the impact, but it didn't change the fact that it was a beautiful piece to begin with and, had I not done the research, I would have loved it anyway.
The cool thing is that even on your first reaction to it, without knowing the context of it and not catching most of the lyrics because you were focused on quality (which is totally okay), you still managed to catch that Tuomas is the sort of glue holding it all together and that he feels what he wrote on a very emotional level. There are a lot of folks who have reacted to this without context and never seemed to catch it, or they get distracted by Emppu being by him so much and thinking that's just him being playful like he usually is.
I loved your reaction. No need to apologize. So reactors did their research for this song and it's nice just to see someone enjoy this song like I do. It's an amazing song and any reaction to nightwish is a good one. Keep it up!
Yeees!! This is the first Nightwish song I ever heard off of the first album I ever bought with my own money when I was seven! Thank you for your always enthusiastic and insightful reactions!
You know what you do, wenn commenting a song, especially this gorgeous song of Nightwish. Wonderful, job. Looking forward to your next one. By the way: I'm in awe of YOUR OWN beautiful voice, its range and colour when you sing...and it is soft like velvet.
(NW army perspective:) You’re not a music critic, you’re a vocal coach and your observations on your medium are spot-on. Wanna talk about Tuomas’ inspirations concerning the composition? Needs a bit of work, but that’s not the intention. Want to express your impressions of the performance? Job done, and well done. Good reaction. As a musician/songwriter, it’s good to remember that no matter what goes into a song, the work is what it is and should be experienced as, and stand on, its own. (Having said that, context matters... good react tho).
It’s nice when people know the full story and pick up on things that relate to it, but also, it’s not that big of a deal! Your reaction was great even if you didn’t do everything I expect. I think we’ve gotten a little spoiled with so many NW reactions flooding TH-cam. After seeing 30 people say the same thing about a part of a song, when someone doesn’t say it there is a feeling of disappointment. I experience it too, but I have to remember that everyone is different and comes in with different abilities. Unfortunately Nightwish’s songs are so good, and hold such a special place for so many of us that we want YOU to love it as much, and in the same way, as us. Also unfortunately I think some reactors fake their excitement for the band because they want the views. Of course more reactors love the band and give genuine love. Anyway, no need to apologize. Also, I had back problems earlier this year but was fortunate enough to have surgery to fix it soon after it became unbearable. I hope you get through your back problems soon and they don’t come back.
I was among the first to tell reactors to do their research for this song, but I have came to conclusion, that no matter how much research you do, it will never be the same than it was for us (old fans). Of course it helps to understand some of the lyrics and quotes, but emotionally, it can't be the same. But that is of course relative thing. Someone never cries no matter what, and others cries their eyes out from basic love song. I'm an old fan since 1998, and Tarja's departure was quite a shock. Then they got Anette, and it was another shock. Their sound was totally changed, and I didn't like it, so abandoned the band. In Finland they played this new NW on radio quite a lot, but I just couldn't feel a thing. Anette sounded too poppy for me. So I never get into this song with Anette. I probably heard it, but I didn't pay attention. (since this I have learnt to accept Anette's vocals, and even like her on some songs). Then years and years later I listened this song with Floor, and I already knew what this is about, and it was one of the most emotional thing I have experienced with music. I just thought those lines like "On the shore, we sat and hoped. Under the same pale moon, whose guiding light chose you all", and it made me miss old NW so much. They had such a "Cinderella story" going on. I get it now, that it was impossible situation to continue with Tarja. She was going to leave in anyways, and when the chemistry is gone, you can't just conjure it back. So, with all that said, I'm very happy we now have Floor...and still have Nightwish.
I appreciate what you wrote here especially at the end of your comment. I have a feeling that most old Nightwish fans understand and feel the same way. Sometimes it just takes a bit longer to get there. I can certainly relate to that... even if I haven't been a Nightwish fan from the beginning. I'm glad you're here with us. Take care and have a wonderful day.
Never understood the whole “do the research” thing some people keep demanding. How often do you do research for a song before hearing it for the first time? What about when listening to radio in the car? Do you slam the power button to turn it off so you can research the song first? I’ve been a Nightwish fan for nearly 20 years and I heard Poet before I researched its meaning. The fact that it is such a good song and so emotionally charged drove me to research it afterward and didn’t reduce my enjoyment or appreciation for the song.
Same case here, i love the Song even more since i know the background. Just love the feeling of the Emotions Tuomas is sharing with us through this song
Glad you are back Sam, and feeling better. Sitting tall and a bit of a chair dance as well. Great to see.I know your first focus is voice then music and finally lyrics. This is one of those ironic situations that pop up. People like the song because of the way it sounds. When you know the history the emotion of the lyrics can be numbing. Your instincts are spot on feeling what Floor was trying to portray. Keep healing.
Yes, all the backing track female harmonies are sung by Floor, because when she became permanent member in 2013 she wanted to re-sing all the backing track female harmonies herself.
Loved this reaction, even without context it was fantastic to see you pick up the tonal shifts (ei. You mentioned Floor's "helplessness" during the ending) and its lovely to see you piece together the composition as the song progresses. Despite some viewers apparently going off in the comments for no reason, I'd love to actually know your take on the meaning now that you know what it's about. None the less, thank you for revisiting Nightwish and I sincerely hope the misplaced anger of some people hasn't warned you off reacting to more! Looking forward to the next video. 🤘
don't appologize mister Sam..you did react honest and youve enjoyed this master piece....as someone else reacted earlier...now knowing the meaning...youll enjoy it even more.. i hope your pain Will wear off🤘🏻💪🏻waiting for more FLOOR reactions 😊
Great reaction. Especially for someone who is high as a kite on painkillers. ;-D Nice that you’re feeling better now. And I want to compliment you again for being one of the few people out Glasgow that speak understandable English.
Hi Sam, thanks for reacting and for your note in the top. Hope you see there are lots of supporters who, like me, have come to enjoy your contributions here. We will stay! I'd like to add something maybe not mentioned by others. The last few months the playing field has changed a bit. Music-wise, the standard for reactions has gone up because of Chase Carneson, especially for metal. Voice wise there are now Julia Nylon and Elizabeth Zharov (The Charismatic Voice). These specialists are enormously dedicated to band aspects, techniques and song meanings and how these come together. They are very focused and descriptive. Might want to see their PATP reactions.... They have spoiled us hard core fans. The former premiere league like yourself, rebecca vocal athlete, vocal splendour, the voice love company, elvann have our admiration as well, but there is a bit less analysis there combined with lots of love for singers and singing and sometimes less interest in song meanings and emotional impact. Just saying. I don't know where you want to be in this playing field. Your laid back style, positivity and humor are dear to me. Backside coin of these qualities can be that you may risk, as happened here, seeming to be not very involved in or considerate of the impact of the song. But hey, you have explained the situation! Wishing you a good recovery, stay safe and I'm looking out for next reaction videos Sam!
BTW... Floor doing ‘How’s the Heart’ (planet rock acoustic) with Troy is an absolute MUST for you. It’s floors voice completely in the raw and it’s amazing. Same with all of her Beste Zangers stuff. Do it!!
I'm glad you went in cold, honestly. Sometimes it's refreshing to get a completely different take.. That's the point of reacting. If everyone reacted exactly the same way, it would be boring.
OK first of all I died laughing at 5:25 and now everytime I hear Floor singing, I will now imagine a fusion of her and Mr. X bursting through my walls and punching me vocally
I never read the backstory to this song. I don't think it takes away from the experience because the storytelling is so great that the lyrics can fit into any real-life scenario that happens to anybody, not just the actual story. I actually found out the story about this song by reading it in the comments of other reaction videos.
Ahhh yes the "research song". As a NW fan since they exist, this is a song that still breaks the heart of us fans. But research or not, I love your reactions and dig your accent. Hope you do more NW.
Hi Sam. It was clear to all if us that you didn’t know what the song was about. However, we appreciate your input on what you think about the musical part of The Poet. I did read your explanation of why you reacted the way you did and I honestly believe that you have nothing to apologize for. I hope your are feeling well my friend and I can’t wait for your next chapter of the Nightwish journey. Cheers!
Bit late response, but missed your comment about your apologies. No need to apologize! Loved this reaction. Especially your remark about reacting not only to the vocals but to Nightwish as a whole!! Hope your doing well.
Empuu is well known for just bothering the other band members, even switching off Floor's in ear monitors 😆 This is a song that makes me cry a bit but that whole chorus bit I cannot cry for the shoulder cries more gets me. But yeah it's beautiful, haunting & I'm glad they play it even if Tuomas gets some parts of the vocals turned off in his monitor to get through it.
So many other reactors were told to do research or leave this 'til you've reacted to . Refreshinhg to see someone react without all of that; it is literally a reaction to hearing it first-time. A first time reaction can't be repeated to try to get the "perfect" order and conditions for listening.
That same drummer is in another band called Wintersun. If you want to see him have a SHIFT AND A HALF, look up the song Sons of Winter and Stars (live rehearsal at Sonic Pump Studios). Also a song worth looking into if you want a very unique experience in regards to vocals, musicianship and composition. A lot of people compare Tuomas(lead writer/keyboard in Nightwish) to the lead writer in Wintersun named Jari. Both are INCREDIBLY brilliant composers.
You mentioned it's now like been on a tank. Floors' Husband is the drummer in Sabaton and his drum kit is set on a tank complete with flame throwing turret.
Sam, if you want to hear Marko sound like an angel (and I know you do), listen to The Islander (live, of course, in Tampere, Finland). The fella can sing anything. I hope you're feeling better. Take care and stay safe in this crazy world.
I like that without research (just organic reaction), you noticed the 'Oceansoul' reference in the visuals. You can find it's meaning on the song 'Oceansoul' on the 'Century Child' album and 'Dead Boys Poem' song from 'Wishmaster's album (this one is very depressing, so be ready if you're sensitive or going through a bad moment... it might triggers and it requires a peaceful moment to really enjoy it). That gave a fanbase name in the 90s and early 00s to whoever could identify with Tuomas' perceptions. I mean, before 'Nightwish Army', 'Oceansoul'.
I'm not an expert, but the intro was sung by a choir boy on a backing track, and im pretty sure the female harmonies are tracked as well. If anyone knows better, correct me if I'm wrong lol thanks
I may be wrong, but I don't believe they use singers (except for the chorus -- adult and child) in the backup track for harmony. Marco can reach quite high when singing harmony and I believe it is him that you hear. He doesn't always sing gritty Try: th-cam.com/video/cMtKG8hRNL4/w-d-xo.html.
This song tends to get blocked because some rapper sampled some of it and apparently it's that publisher blocking this song not Nightwish or Nuclear Blast. Great reaction to an Epic song.
Just gonna reiterate what was said by previous people: both layman and pro are entitled to have fun and joy in listening to something. The perspective changes. Whoever came to this channel and expected everything to be broken down - this is the wrong address. There is a certain quality to Sam’s videos and it’s not being ashamed of displaying excitement and showing exhilaration when a singer nails down something technical. And this song is technical (regardless of who sung it originally). Just take it easy folks. Let someone new to the Army feel welcome and guided, not scorned as if he defaced an object of reverence.
You're gonna get some angry people on this reaction, BUT, I for one am happy to see someone just enjoy the music without knowing the backstory. Whenever I hear a song for the first time, I generally never know the meaning behind it. Remember folks, he's talking about vocals.
You don't have to know the backstory of a song to make reaction videos out of them imo. Some fans are TOO fanatic and can be really nasty about this song. I've grown up on and with Nightwish, I've been through all their "eras" and I didn't know about the backstory of this song until last year, because to me the song was amazing even without knowign it, and now that I DO know the backstory, the live performance makes more sense, and I came to love the closeness of the bandmembers even more because of it, but I don't think you need to know the story behind EVERY song to love and enjoy them. Some of their songs are in finish, and while I AM a quarter finish, sadly I do not speak the launguage and so I just enjoy what I hear, even without reading the translation. My point being; you don't HAVE to understand a song OR know everything about it to like it or to listen to it, so my slightly more fanatical fan-brethren CHILL OUT with the upset comments! And take care of yourself dear Sam, you are one of my favourite vocal coaches on youtube, so I want you to be as healthy as possible!
Possibly one of the most personal and emotional tracks, Many will tell you the particular reasons Tuomas wrote this but it stands as an anthem to depression and suicidal feeling of many. Also this track also uses many metaphors for feeling. Much of this is my own interperatation of the lyrics. The very first movement "White Lands of Empathica" is a direct reference to Stephen Kings Dark Tower series. in the second movement you get references to feelings of being useless, no longer able to function and hating what you seem to be. Also here the refrain appears "I cannot cry cos the shoulder cries more", here you have the situation where all of us feel we have someone who is our shoulder to cry on, our prop if you will, but what happens when the shoulder is as or even more hurt than you are! Also I cannot Die I am a whore for the cold world, This, to me anyway, seems to be about having to put a brave face on things the world expects you to be a certain thing no matter what you actually feel, likewise the two faces reference, having to be one thing for the outside and yet inside you feel something totally different. There is also the harking back to youth and better times of home. In the Pacific section, here you have clues as to the thoughts of the writer, "tuck me in" under the waves, beneath the pain! reference also made later in the track to drowning as a preferred death. Tuomos also refers here to the relationship he used to have with Tarja, beneath the same pale moon. In this part also the whispered lyric describes the futility he was feeling, being raped again and again was possibly a metaphor for feeling used constantly, being the scapegoat. also talks of the total betrayal by people he thought of as friends as well as everyone else,A common feeling with severe depression too., A note here too, when you hear three minutes and counting then there are just three minutes to the time when Tuomas makes the throat cutting gesture and you hear the drum heart beat slow and falter to a stop. In the final section imagine a Mothers words to her child who either had committed suicide or was in serious danger of doing so. Then you feel the emotion even more so. Thanks for your reaction though,
An honest reaction for the song, without the background is ok by me. The background however gives it extra meaning and depth that most will miss sadly. Glad to see you doing better with your back. Marko was great here as always but I love his vocals on their cover of Pink Floyds 'High hopes', Nightwish 'Kiss while your lips are still Red' and 'the islander'. All 3 need to be heard.
Great reaction mate 😎🤘 this is a complex and very emotional song, for us fans and more so for Tuomas (on Keyboards) It’s cut in 5 parts tracking the swing of emotions that he personally felt after firing the first singer, Tarja. It’s is also his metaphoric suicide, hence the cut of the pendulum. When Emppu and Marko stand near him they are giving him emotional support...love this line up of the band, so supportive and the happiest place they have been 😎🤘
Well please dont get mad at me but i have my second thoughts about they (T and M and E) standing together only to "give support", please see the video from Mexico city 2015, they are standing in very same position but above that giving each other fistbump, that would mean rather enjoying it together, or so i see it myselves... ofcourse i may be wrong...
Great reaction man! Yes, I would love to see you react to more Nightwish. Maybe "Yours is an empty hope."... or something from the new album: "Music" is a good start (and the first).
Hi. On Beste Zangers watch it with Jennizelf with subtitles. Tuomas killed himself in this song so he didn't have to do it in real life. Marco and Emppu at the end of it they are standing next to Tuomas as brotherly love because he still get emotional with . This is after Tarja got fired. He doesn't have his ears in . If you look closely you can see Floor's stomach as she breathes on the long verses. On Floor's You Tube channel she says that she's highly sensitive and had dark moods . It's called Story Times it's about her and where she lives with Hannes and their daughter Freja. Her other one is called Floor Finds . Story Time 4 and Finds is 2
Tuomas always writes symphonic tracks and he usually uses the London Philharmonic orchestra and choir so that's probably what you are hearing in the background. BTW, for this song only Tuomas has the vocals turned off in his ear devices because he finds the vocals too hard to listen to. It breaks him up. A lot of this song breaks me up too especially part 5.
This is actually a very very heavy song, where the pendulum is dropping lower and lower . Thoamas created this song when the former singer left. The grieve, the los, betrayal, the end of the life they knew ( you hear the cutting sound of the pendulum when it slashes threw the air and the heart stops. It is about grieve, inner struggle, betrayal and overcome.
I didn't even know English very well when this song was released so I couldn't properly understand the meaning, but I enjoyed it a lot anyway. I knew what happened with Nightwish before (also attended their last concert with Tarja), but I still didn't know how this song was related to that on my first listen. I got interested in the lyrics later and although that made me appreciate the song even more , I don't feel like my first listen was any less enjoyable. Anyway nice reaction!
i, as many Nightwish fans, at the time, found the lyrics in this song as well as his conduct, before and after the letter confusing...his response was to shut the F* up and go away...to truly understand what happened one needs to read Marcelo's answers
Glad you are feeling better now, tbh I didn’t think there was anything wrong with the reaction and you have nothing to apologise for. As for the toxicity of some comments you may have got, unfortunately some people think they can say anything without clarity of thought or constructively just because they feel protected by the anonymity of being at the other end of a cable brings them, just ignore them, your a really good reactor, keep the faith in your music 🤘ignore the critics and haters
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Hello everyone! Hope you're all doing well.
I'd really like to address a few comments i've recieved, and some i'll more than likely get in the future...
So when I recorded this reaction, I actually asked the NW discord server to help me pick out a series of videos, and this one was always earmarked for "Do it once you know a bit more about Nightwish", but when it came to which one to pick, I'd forgotten what it was about Poet that was important, just that it *was* important, so I picked it to do on this day.
Now the reason that I had a complete brain fart and jumped into this song with both feet is that I was probably at my most medicated at this point. I was having spinal issues at the time, and was on neuropathic painkillers and tramadol, and ended up on them for months. It was grim, I was basically a zombie, I would have times where I just lay in a heap and try and block out the pain (even on these painkillers, it never let up). I couldn't sleep more than a couple of broken hours sleep a night, and I was at my wits end. Turns out I actually ended up with Central Sensitization, which is where your central nervous system goes bonkers, but anyway, I digress....
Looking back on this *now* from fresh eyes, I would have done a lot differently. I put it up because I love the band, and hope that my enthusiasm for them came through, even with a limited understanding of the piece as a whole (I tend to go into reactions "blind" as I want to get my gut feeling recorded, rather than researching and possibly influencing myself subconciously, if that makes sense).
Bottom line though, if I upset or anger any of you, then I apologise unreservedly, it's NEVER my intention to offend or cause upset, so If I have, then please know I feel grim about causing that. I love the band, love the fans of the band, and I hope that I haven't done any harm.
Sam x
It's nice to have full context but most people don't experience things with prior context anyway so in that way its more genuine. Great videos mate, don't let the unreasonable comments get you down!
No need to apologise, if anything you already paid your dues when you did the Beste Zangers series. Most know that when you started 😎🤘🖖
Don't worry man! You don't need to apologise, The reaction was great, some people need to calm down on the comments.
Hope you are doing better!
So much better! I've been painkiller free for a few months now. Still have muscle damage from the way I was holding myself, but i'm working on using all my muscles properly again :)
To all the people scolding him for not doing the proper research. If it was mandatory for this song, it probably would have been included. You should be able to listen to a song, even this one, without a backstory. If a song is good enough, and this one is, it should hold up on it's own without anything supporting it. And finally, this man is taking the time and energy to react to something dear to us. We can like it or dislike it, but that does not give us the right to be telling him what to do. I'm seeing so much "you need to" and "you should have". No he doesn't!
I think you are absolutely right. Also knowing the backstory adds such an extra emotional level that it increases your "consumption" of the performance. So if people say to lookup the backstory, it is just because they want the reactor to experience that extra layer.
But to scold a reactor who does not research is ridiculous.
@Jessica Koster : Amen!
That's one reason why they do this song very rarely.
Yes! I didn't know the back story when I bought the freshly published cd. And yet, I fell in love wit this particular song right away, sensed the feelings and enjoyed it with all my heart. I found out the back story way later, made me love the song even more.
I think that this song stands on itself just without the background story. However, it is fair to say that with the background story, this song can make you feel things a little deeper still. Words do have meaning and that meaning is lost when you don't know what the song is about. Also, he's a vocal coach apparently, and how can he comment on her diction and emphasis and tone when he's unaware of what the meaning of what she sings is. As for him taking the time to react to something, he's in it for the exposure and the money. Never forget that. By commenting and viewing these videos he makes money off us and Nightwish...and Nightwish is a good money maker for youtubers. That's fine mind you, but don't make it sound like he's doing it out of the goodness of his heart.
'she feels everything she sings' .... best comment of the day ...
And absolutely true. That's what sets her apart from many. She has the ability to impart that emotion to the listener, no matter what she is singing. Her stage presence and command is akin to Freddie Mercury. I was fortunate enough to see Freddie and Queen well before AIDS took him from us. The same command of the audience and stage presence that Floor has. What a talented lady!
Floor herself said that she has something called High Sensitivity. She picks up on the feelings of other and takes it with her when she leaves the room.
All those comments saying that you need to/should research the lyrics and being mean about it and saying it's a bad reaction because you didn't, show me again all the parts of the internet I hate.
No one of us had the context when first listening to the song, I didn't even have much context to Nightwish at the point when I first listened to Dark Passion Play, just my friends saying how great the singer is and I didn't understand it because, yeah the singer is ok but not that outstanding? When I said that to them, they told me I apparently started with the "wrong" end of NW and they meant Tarja and not Anette, but I at that point didn't even now they changed singers.
So when I watch a reaction video I want the person's initial unbiased reaction and research can alter that. My first impression of NW was "yeah ok" but then I dove deeper into it and it changed my perspective. That's what context does. And it is not a bad thing to first listen without context, especially if you - as a vocal coach - focus on the technicalities of Floor's voice.
You shouldn't have to apologize. You are not the first reactor to go in blind either. People just need to calm down.
So for me all that is left to say is: Thank you! And I think this was a really great reaction!
(Sorry that I went off on a bit of a rant there)
This is why I have a tendency to avoid online fandoms. They get so damn toxic.
If you do a review, you should know whats about.
But that's just my opinion.
I agree, consuming art should be a personal experience, whether you like it or not comes down to how it speaks to you, how it meets your emotions and your mind.. I wanted to join some kind of fan club just because i love the technical aspects of the composition aspects, the orchestral stuff, how they mix it with a metal band (which is extremely tricky when you have this vast array of instruments all battling for space in a limited sound spectrum)
I found a fan club and regretted it. No discussion about it with interest in the music, just mainly gushing over the singers and showing off their knowledge about the tiniest details about the band, the songs or their history. Competitive fanaticism i'd call it lol. But yes, i find it irritating when people say to you "THIS is what this song means, you should look it up" like you need to do a load of prep work before listening to a song to enjoy it to it's fullest. You could see it as soon as Human Nature came out, you had the people obsessively trying to figure out the meaning of every line so they could inform everyone else, and the people that, as usual with NW, just moan about it not being metal enough or because Harvest doesn't sound like a normal Nightwish song... like, jeez... THIS EXACT SONG talks about feeling enslaved to insatiable fans that care more about the controversy surrounding the singer drama than the actual music. Just let artists be artists, if the so-called 'die hard fans' had their way every album would sound the same and the band would be miserable. Just let Tuomas do his magic and get some enjoyment out of it.
Sorry lol you got me going a bit there.
@@SynphamyMusic Amen.
Being mean about it is obviously a shitty thing to do.
Everyone listening to this should really check out the back story tho.
Not for our sake but for their own, it adds such astronomical levels of emotion.
If you're a lover of music you're doing yourself one of the biggest disservices ever if you don't.
If they dont feel like it that's 100% their prerogative... But recommending they do is not wrong or a bad thing to do as long as your nice about it.
Dude, this was a pure reaction. Doing research and backstory is all well and good but that can really take away from the initial reaction. Be proud of how you connected with the song, and get well. There is always time for the backstory later, and it will enhance the connection you made.
God forbid a person just listens to a song to enjoy it. With all the bs in the world why even think about making this dude feel guilty. He's apologizing for nonsense. "Search for beauty, find your shore" ... hope you are on the mend! Cheers from NY!
@@Rick-ge1ri you're right, he is being a very unprofessional TH-cam reactor. He shouldn't be allowed to be excited about experiencing a new song and enjoying himself.
The vocal Nightwish fanbase on TH-cam is toxic beyond comparison. I love the band but people on the internet make me almost second guess it.
??? What are you on about?
@@rientsdijkstra4266 Its simple, this guy is just doing his thing. TH-cam jerks come in and give him a hard time to the point where he apologizes for everything he does. I think he's great and even if he wasn't, no reason to be a jerk.
@@profjohnfrinks I simply do not understand what this is about... I think Sam Scott-Thorne does great reviews, with a nice mixture of knowledge and engament, and I do not understand why that should be a problem?? And I do not understanding who is blaming who for what? So I think we should al lighten up! keep up the good work Sam!
Aside from the meaning and beautiful delivery of Floor, I'm equally impressed by Marko.... Singing those lines and watching his fingers traveling all over that bass is incredible to keep it all going like that
I am a Nightwish fan and I think anyone who says people have to research ANY song to be able to listen to it and enjoy it as face value is just dumb, they can always research later when they fall down the rabbit hole and then they get to relisten and hear it again through a fresh lens all new like for the first time, thats a gift Id wish on anyone.
Its getting them to the rabbit hole that is the thing so why would we tell people not to listen to what is one of the greatest pieces of music ive ever heard (even without knowing the meaning behind it) surely telling them to listen to this song full stop would be the fastest way to get them into the Nightwish army right?
I agree, EXCEPT for Shoemaker 😀 No rule without exceptions!
Hi Sam, I enjoy your reviews! Keep up the good work!
The boy soprano at the start is Guy Elliott from St Mary's Reigate Choir School. Floor chose to sing the part "Sparkle my...." instead of the backing track..... From the whispered "3 minutes and counting" to when Tuomas "Cuts" his head off is 3 minutes!!!... Yes, even the breathing points are planned with great detail!...It is okay that you didn't know the back story - it can create a more honest and impartial reaction... Well done!
Tuomas’ face at 20:20 shows his emotion towards this song. Incredible...
Dude, read your pinned comment and you definitely look stiff in this. I hope you're feeling better. And hell, man, you're a vocal coach doing reactions on singing, primarily; knowing the meaning behind the song is one thing, but it doesn't take away at all from what you're doing here. No problem at all with the reaction. Always appreciate your insight. Only beef I have is MORE NIGHTWISH! 😁 Would love to see a reaction on I Want My Tears Back and/or Dead Boy's Poem from Buenos Aires 2018. I think you'll love them both. Tears has a folky vibe and is just really fun. Dead Boy's Poem really showcases Floor's vocals. Lastly, you mentioned about Floor really "feeling" the music. She recently revealed - at least it's the first time I heard it - that's she's "high sensitive" and that gives her that extra emotion in her delivery that I've not seen anyone match. Here: th-cam.com/video/T68mp-Fn9Rk/w-d-xo.html
You're awesome brother, stay well.
couldn't agree more with b keyser (seeing this now, 9 months later). I am interested in your (Sam's) opinion and take (I already know mine). When I first heard these songs, my take was 'awesome', it took me a few listens to put 2+2 together (others will have been faster) and get the meaning behind it, even though I knew the history. Please keep doing what you are doing :) Take care
Tuomas the keyboard player wrote this as a lyrical suicide when depressed from the reaction of sacking the 1st lead vocalist Tarja Turunen. The title is a play on the title of the Edgar Alan Poe horror story The Pit and the Pendulum, where a swinging blade slowly descends towards the victim strapped to a table beneath. The song is divided into 5 parts, The White Lands of Empathica, Home, The Pacific, Dark Passion Play , Mother and Father.
It's also why the guitarists walk over to him at different points, they just want to make sure he's okay.
Yes. And the lyrics "I only have 3 minutes and counting" after 3 minutes he "kill's himself" on stage. In "Mother and Father" it is an actual words from Tuomakses mother.
Yes, this is a very significant song for nightwish; very lyrically personal, and yes, research prior to certainly helps understand it, BUT there is also very much to be said for "blind reactions", ESPECIALLY with nightwish, where the music is so expertly composed to lead you through emotions and, as you so aptly pointed out, Floor's tendency to FEEL EVERY NOTE SHE SINGS and her vocal ability to pass that tangibility of feeling onto the listener.....so even without the backstory or research, the listener still is VERY capable of not just enjoying this song but truely GETTING it. You have nothing to apologize for. Great reaction. By your pinned comment, it sounds like you are on the mend, but hope you continue to get better.
I don't understand half their songs I just love how they make me feel. I might look a bit further into a song but not always. Just go with the flow. This song is one where I wanted to understand it a bit better which enhanced it for me. But as you are a vocal coach I just love your appreciation of the vocals so all good. 😀👍
Yep, quite similar for me, but oh yes of all the NW songs, THIS one is imo the one which deserves the lyrics be best understood, and enjoyed with no stress, open mind...
I'm nearly sure thats what most ppl suggested to Sam, but OK unlucky conditions caused that guidance go unused, never mind all will survive :)
I prefer when people react on a song without "doing research". If you get the feeling that the song tries to make you feel, then they did a bloody good job. Good reaction.
I'm glad you're on the mend. Honestly, don't waste your time on the haters. Your reaction was fine and your research, or lack thereof, is irrelevant. I knew nothing about this piece when I first heard it; it still had a huge emotional impact. Because of that, I went back to try to understand it later and only then did I learn the back story. That knowledge increased the impact, but it didn't change the fact that it was a beautiful piece to begin with and, had I not done the research, I would have loved it anyway.
The cool thing is that even on your first reaction to it, without knowing the context of it and not catching most of the lyrics because you were focused on quality (which is totally okay), you still managed to catch that Tuomas is the sort of glue holding it all together and that he feels what he wrote on a very emotional level. There are a lot of folks who have reacted to this without context and never seemed to catch it, or they get distracted by Emppu being by him so much and thinking that's just him being playful like he usually is.
I guess you now know the backstory of this song... It's both sad and gorgeous at the same time.
No worries here - I totally understand and I’m glad you’re doing better 😎 Thanks for doing your best and I wish you a speedy recovery 🤘
I loved your reaction. No need to apologize. So reactors did their research for this song and it's nice just to see someone enjoy this song like I do. It's an amazing song and any reaction to nightwish is a good one. Keep it up!
I feel like they didn't cast Marco.
They just plucked a viking out of a glacier, thawed him up and gave him a guitar.
This is my favourite NW song ever!
I love how you fanboy over Marko! Oh we do love him so much!
Yeees!! This is the first Nightwish song I ever heard off of the first album I ever bought with my own money when I was seven! Thank you for your always enthusiastic and insightful reactions!
Wow!
I wish I had your good taste in music at seven years old.
You know what you do, wenn commenting a song, especially this gorgeous song of Nightwish. Wonderful, job. Looking forward to your next one. By the way: I'm in awe of YOUR OWN beautiful voice, its range and colour when you sing...and it is soft like velvet.
(NW army perspective:) You’re not a music critic, you’re a vocal coach and your observations on your medium are spot-on. Wanna talk about Tuomas’ inspirations concerning the composition? Needs a bit of work, but that’s not the intention. Want to express your impressions of the performance? Job done, and well done. Good reaction. As a musician/songwriter, it’s good to remember that no matter what goes into a song, the work is what it is and should be experienced as, and stand on, its own. (Having said that, context matters... good react tho).
It was a great reaction to the musical aspect, you can read about the lyrics any time
It’s nice when people know the full story and pick up on things that relate to it, but also, it’s not that big of a deal! Your reaction was great even if you didn’t do everything I expect.
I think we’ve gotten a little spoiled with so many NW reactions flooding TH-cam. After seeing 30 people say the same thing about a part of a song, when someone doesn’t say it there is a feeling of disappointment. I experience it too, but I have to remember that everyone is different and comes in with different abilities.
Unfortunately Nightwish’s songs are so good, and hold such a special place for so many of us that we want YOU to love it as much, and in the same way, as us. Also unfortunately I think some reactors fake their excitement for the band because they want the views. Of course more reactors love the band and give genuine love. Anyway, no need to apologize.
Also, I had back problems earlier this year but was fortunate enough to have surgery to fix it soon after it became unbearable. I hope you get through your back problems soon and they don’t come back.
Been waiting for some more Floor or Nightwish!!
I was among the first to tell reactors to do their research for this song, but I have came to conclusion, that no matter how much research you do, it will never be the same than it was for us (old fans). Of course it helps to understand some of the lyrics and quotes, but emotionally, it can't be the same. But that is of course relative thing. Someone never cries no matter what, and others cries their eyes out from basic love song.
I'm an old fan since 1998, and Tarja's departure was quite a shock. Then they got Anette, and it was another shock. Their sound was totally changed, and I didn't like it, so abandoned the band. In Finland they played this new NW on radio quite a lot, but I just couldn't feel a thing. Anette sounded too poppy for me. So I never get into this song with Anette. I probably heard it, but I didn't pay attention. (since this I have learnt to accept Anette's vocals, and even like her on some songs).
Then years and years later I listened this song with Floor, and I already knew what this is about, and it was one of the most emotional thing I have experienced with music. I just thought those lines like "On the shore, we sat and hoped. Under the same pale moon, whose guiding light chose you all", and it made me miss old NW so much. They had such a "Cinderella story" going on. I get it now, that it was impossible situation to continue with Tarja. She was going to leave in anyways, and when the chemistry is gone, you can't just conjure it back.
So, with all that said, I'm very happy we now have Floor...and still have Nightwish.
I appreciate what you wrote here especially at the end of your comment. I have a feeling that most old Nightwish fans understand and feel the same way. Sometimes it just takes a bit longer to get there. I can certainly relate to that... even if I haven't been a Nightwish fan from the beginning. I'm glad you're here with us. Take care and have a wonderful day.
Never understood the whole “do the research” thing some people keep demanding. How often do you do research for a song before hearing it for the first time? What about when listening to radio in the car? Do you slam the power button to turn it off so you can research the song first? I’ve been a Nightwish fan for nearly 20 years and I heard Poet before I researched its meaning. The fact that it is such a good song and so emotionally charged drove me to research it afterward and didn’t reduce my enjoyment or appreciation for the song.
Same case here, i love the Song even more since i know the background. Just love the feeling of the Emotions Tuomas is sharing with us through this song
Glad you are back Sam, and feeling better. Sitting tall and a bit of a chair dance as well. Great to see.I know your first focus is voice then music and finally lyrics. This is one of those ironic situations that pop up. People like the song because of the way it sounds. When you know the history the emotion of the lyrics can be numbing. Your instincts are spot on feeling what Floor was trying to portray. Keep healing.
Yes, all the backing track female harmonies are sung by Floor, because when she became permanent member in 2013 she wanted to re-sing all the backing track female harmonies herself.
Glad you're still enjoying their stuff - and I hope you found a good chiropractor!
Loved this reaction, even without context it was fantastic to see you pick up the tonal shifts (ei. You mentioned Floor's "helplessness" during the ending) and its lovely to see you piece together the composition as the song progresses.
Despite some viewers apparently going off in the comments for no reason, I'd love to actually know your take on the meaning now that you know what it's about.
None the less, thank you for revisiting Nightwish and I sincerely hope the misplaced anger of some people hasn't warned you off reacting to more!
Looking forward to the next video. 🤘
Did NOT expect to see Mr. X in a nightwish reaction... Massive respect good sir
You can always think of Nightwish as traveling down a winding road and having unexpected experiences to an unknown destination. Just enjoy.
don't appologize mister Sam..you did react honest and youve enjoyed this master piece....as someone else reacted earlier...now knowing the meaning...youll enjoy it even more..
i hope your pain Will wear off🤘🏻💪🏻waiting for more FLOOR reactions 😊
Great reaction. Especially for someone who is high as a kite on painkillers. ;-D Nice that you’re feeling better now. And I want to compliment you again for being one of the few people out Glasgow that speak understandable English.
Hi Sam, thanks for reacting and for your note in the top. Hope you see there are lots of supporters who, like me, have come to enjoy your contributions here. We will stay!
I'd like to add something maybe not mentioned by others. The last few months the playing field has changed a bit. Music-wise, the standard for reactions has gone up because of Chase Carneson, especially for metal. Voice wise there are now Julia Nylon and Elizabeth Zharov (The Charismatic Voice). These specialists are enormously dedicated to band aspects, techniques and song meanings and how these come together. They are very focused and descriptive. Might want to see their PATP reactions.... They have spoiled us hard core fans.
The former premiere league like yourself, rebecca vocal athlete, vocal splendour, the voice love company, elvann have our admiration as well, but there is a bit less analysis there combined with lots of love for singers and singing and sometimes less interest in song meanings and emotional impact.
Just saying. I don't know where you want to be in this playing field. Your laid back style, positivity and humor are dear to me. Backside coin of these qualities can be that you may risk, as happened here, seeming to be not very involved in or considerate of the impact of the song. But hey, you have explained the situation!
Wishing you a good recovery, stay safe and I'm looking out for next reaction videos Sam!
Love it!!! Get well soon!!
BTW...
Floor doing ‘How’s the Heart’ (planet rock acoustic) with Troy is an absolute MUST for you. It’s floors voice completely in the raw and it’s amazing. Same with all of her Beste Zangers stuff.
Do it!!
It's earmarked for the future! Hopefully not too far away!
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Floor without all the “dirtiness” is even more incredible.
*Nothing* in a Holopainen production is on accident.
That's just facts
This intro without the music, just the reaction, omg... that's gold.
I'm glad you went in cold, honestly. Sometimes it's refreshing to get a completely different take.. That's the point of reacting. If everyone reacted exactly the same way, it would be boring.
OK first of all I died laughing at 5:25 and now everytime I hear Floor singing, I will now imagine a fusion of her and Mr. X bursting through my walls and punching me vocally
Kai's instantaneous downshift - overdrive to first gear - @3:40 amazes me every time I hear it.
I never read the backstory to this song. I don't think it takes away from the experience because the storytelling is so great that the lyrics can fit into any real-life scenario that happens to anybody, not just the actual story. I actually found out the story about this song by reading it in the comments of other reaction videos.
I didn't mind you did not research this one, I loved it thankyou.
Ahhh yes the "research song". As a NW fan since they exist, this is a song that still breaks the heart of us fans.
But research or not, I love your reactions and dig your accent.
Hope you do more NW.
marko is so versatile, amazing man.
Hi Sam. It was clear to all if us that you didn’t know what the song was about. However, we appreciate your input on what you think about the musical part of The Poet. I did read your explanation of why you reacted the way you did and I honestly believe that you have nothing to apologize for. I hope your are feeling well my friend and I can’t wait for your next chapter of the Nightwish journey. Cheers!
You HAVE GOT to check out Marco singing "While Your Lips Are Still Red", Nightwish Live at Wembley please! :)
Bit late response, but missed your comment about your apologies. No need to apologize! Loved this reaction. Especially your remark about reacting not only to the vocals but to Nightwish as a whole!! Hope your doing well.
Empuu is well known for just bothering the other band members, even switching off Floor's in ear monitors 😆
This is a song that makes me cry a bit but that whole chorus bit I cannot cry for the shoulder cries more gets me.
But yeah it's beautiful, haunting & I'm glad they play it even if Tuomas gets some parts of the vocals turned off in his monitor to get through it.
So many other reactors were told to do research or leave this 'til you've reacted to . Refreshinhg to see someone react without all of that; it is literally a reaction to hearing it first-time. A first time reaction can't be repeated to try to get the "perfect" order and conditions for listening.
That same drummer is in another band called Wintersun.
If you want to see him have a SHIFT AND A HALF, look up the song Sons of Winter and Stars (live rehearsal at Sonic Pump Studios). Also a song worth looking into if you want a very unique experience in regards to vocals, musicianship and composition.
A lot of people compare Tuomas(lead writer/keyboard in Nightwish) to the lead writer in Wintersun named Jari. Both are INCREDIBLY brilliant composers.
You mentioned it's now like been on a tank.
Floors' Husband is the drummer in Sabaton and his drum kit is set on a tank complete with flame throwing turret.
Floor 'Thanos' Jansen 🤣
5:10 that was EPIC! 😂❤️
Sam, if you want to hear Marko sound like an angel (and I know you do), listen to The Islander (live, of course, in Tampere, Finland). The fella can sing anything.
I hope you're feeling better. Take care and stay safe in this crazy world.
I like that without research (just organic reaction), you noticed the 'Oceansoul' reference in the visuals. You can find it's meaning on the song 'Oceansoul' on the 'Century Child' album and 'Dead Boys Poem' song from 'Wishmaster's album (this one is very depressing, so be ready if you're sensitive or going through a bad moment... it might triggers and it requires a peaceful moment to really enjoy it). That gave a fanbase name in the 90s and early 00s to whoever could identify with Tuomas' perceptions. I mean, before 'Nightwish Army', 'Oceansoul'.
I'm not an expert, but the intro was sung by a choir boy on a backing track, and im pretty sure the female harmonies are tracked as well. If anyone knows better, correct me if I'm wrong lol thanks
I may be wrong, but I don't believe they use singers (except for the chorus -- adult and child) in the backup track for harmony. Marco can reach quite high when singing harmony and I believe it is him that you hear. He doesn't always sing gritty Try: th-cam.com/video/cMtKG8hRNL4/w-d-xo.html.
Floor has more balls than any vocal coach in TH-cam female or male
This song tends to get blocked because some rapper sampled some of it and apparently it's that publisher blocking this song not Nightwish or Nuclear Blast.
Great reaction to an Epic song.
@@MrDjTilo It's probably part of the reason Nightwish are the most reacted band on the internet... and the fact that they are awesome of course :)
It would love to see you do one more reaction after you learned what this is about.
Please do it again, hope you’re feeling better by now. 🙋🏼♀️
Just gonna reiterate what was said by previous people: both layman and pro are entitled to have fun and joy in listening to something. The perspective changes. Whoever came to this channel and expected everything to be broken down - this is the wrong address. There is a certain quality to Sam’s videos and it’s not being ashamed of displaying excitement and showing exhilaration when a singer nails down something technical. And this song is technical (regardless of who sung it originally). Just take it easy folks. Let someone new to the Army feel welcome and guided, not scorned as if he defaced an object of reverence.
Glad you enjoyed it. :)
You're gonna get some angry people on this reaction, BUT, I for one am happy to see someone just enjoy the music without knowing the backstory. Whenever I hear a song for the first time, I generally never know the meaning behind it. Remember folks, he's talking about vocals.
Thanks, great reaction!!!
You don't have to know the backstory of a song to make reaction videos out of them imo. Some fans are TOO fanatic and can be really nasty about this song. I've grown up on and with Nightwish, I've been through all their "eras" and I didn't know about the backstory of this song until last year, because to me the song was amazing even without knowign it, and now that I DO know the backstory, the live performance makes more sense, and I came to love the closeness of the bandmembers even more because of it, but I don't think you need to know the story behind EVERY song to love and enjoy them. Some of their songs are in finish, and while I AM a quarter finish, sadly I do not speak the launguage and so I just enjoy what I hear, even without reading the translation.
My point being; you don't HAVE to understand a song OR know everything about it to like it or to listen to it, so my slightly more fanatical fan-brethren CHILL OUT with the upset comments!
And take care of yourself dear Sam, you are one of my favourite vocal coaches on youtube, so I want you to be as healthy as possible!
Possibly one of the most personal and emotional tracks, Many will tell you the particular reasons Tuomas wrote this but it stands as an anthem to depression and suicidal feeling of many. Also this track also uses many metaphors for feeling.
Much of this is my own interperatation of the lyrics.
The very first movement "White Lands of Empathica" is a direct reference to Stephen Kings Dark Tower series. in the second movement you get references to feelings of being useless, no longer able to function and hating what you seem to be. Also here the refrain appears "I cannot cry cos the shoulder cries more", here you have the situation where all of us feel we have someone who is our shoulder to cry on, our prop if you will, but what happens when the shoulder is as or even more hurt than you are! Also I cannot Die I am a whore for the cold world, This, to me anyway, seems to be about having to put a brave face on things the world expects you to be a certain thing no matter what you actually feel, likewise the two faces reference, having to be one thing for the outside and yet inside you feel something totally different. There is also the harking back to youth and better times of home. In the Pacific section, here you have clues as to the thoughts of the writer, "tuck me in" under the waves, beneath the pain! reference also made later in the track to drowning as a preferred death. Tuomos also refers here to the relationship he used to have with Tarja, beneath the same pale moon.
In this part also the whispered lyric describes the futility he was feeling, being raped again and again was possibly a metaphor for feeling used constantly, being the scapegoat. also talks of the total betrayal by people he thought of as friends as well as everyone else,A common feeling with severe depression too., A note here too, when you hear three minutes and counting then there are just three minutes to the time when Tuomas makes the throat cutting gesture and you hear the drum heart beat slow and falter to a stop.
In the final section imagine a Mothers words to her child who either had committed suicide or was in serious danger of doing so. Then you feel the emotion even more so.
Thanks for your reaction though,
An honest reaction for the song, without the background is ok by me. The background however gives it extra meaning and depth that most will miss sadly. Glad to see you doing better with your back. Marko was great here as always but I love his vocals on their cover of Pink Floyds 'High hopes', Nightwish 'Kiss while your lips are still Red' and 'the islander'. All 3 need to be heard.
this is one nightwish song where song get much more great when know what is behind the lyric. but anyways great reaction and have great day there.
Dear Sam, you are só good at analizing NW, that I might even going to start liking them 😉
Great reaction mate 😎🤘 this is a complex and very emotional song, for us fans and more so for Tuomas (on Keyboards) It’s cut in 5 parts tracking the swing of emotions that he personally felt after firing the first singer, Tarja. It’s is also his metaphoric suicide, hence the cut of the pendulum. When Emppu and Marko stand near him they are giving him emotional support...love this line up of the band, so supportive and the happiest place they have been 😎🤘
Well please dont get mad at me but i have my second thoughts about they (T and M and E) standing together only to "give support", please see the video from Mexico city 2015, they are standing in very same position but above that giving each other fistbump, that would mean rather enjoying it together, or so i see it myselves... ofcourse i may be wrong...
SYNtemp interesting but I also wasn’t being exclusive, the band members have stated that this is what they do so I’ll go with that 😎🤘
SYNtemp never mad I actually think both reason apply, they are a much more supportive and happy band these days,,that is what is clearly evident 😎🤘
@@chrisgoldston9755 Thats for sure...
Get the Ave Maria as sung by Floor and Marco on Dec 24th 2019. Marco is stunning in more ways than one!
Great reaction man! Yes, I would love to see you react to more Nightwish. Maybe "Yours is an empty hope."... or something from the new album: "Music" is a good start (and the first).
Lmao that stance scene 😂
Please react to their song Greatest show on Earth (live in Tampere 2015 with lyrics) you wont be dissappointed..
LOL, Tuomas is like a mad scientist behind that keyboard.
Hi. On Beste Zangers watch it with Jennizelf with subtitles. Tuomas killed himself in this song so he didn't have to do it in real life. Marco and Emppu at the end of it they are standing next to Tuomas as brotherly love because he still get emotional with . This is after Tarja got fired. He doesn't have his ears in . If you look closely you can see Floor's stomach as she breathes on the long verses. On Floor's You Tube channel she says that she's highly sensitive and had dark moods . It's called Story Times it's about her and where she lives with Hannes and their daughter Freja. Her other one is called Floor Finds . Story Time 4 and Finds is 2
Tuomas always writes symphonic tracks and he usually uses the London Philharmonic orchestra and choir so that's probably what you are hearing in the background. BTW, for this song only Tuomas has the vocals turned off in his ear devices because he finds the vocals too hard to listen to. It breaks him up. A lot of this song breaks me up too especially part 5.
This is actually a very very heavy song, where the pendulum is dropping lower and lower . Thoamas created this song when the former singer left. The grieve, the los, betrayal, the end of the life they knew ( you hear the cutting sound of the pendulum when it slashes threw the air and the heart stops. It is about grieve, inner struggle, betrayal and overcome.
So so beautiful!
I LAUGHED MY ASS OFF TO THE 'FELL FROM THE SKY' REFERENCE VID LMFAO OH MY GOD I CANT
Intro got you thumbs up on it's own :)
Screw research and screw the gatekeepers. Enjoy the tracks. You'll learn all you need in the comments.
Another great reaction. Great insight.
🤘😛🤘 Dead Boy's Poem next please.
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*"Regal"* is the word your looking for.
You're welcome 😁👍
I felt in love with this man! 😍😍😍😍 Merry me, please! 😍💜✨
Great job my friend. Work on getting healthy and strong. Good luck to you.
I didn't even know English very well when this song was released so I couldn't properly understand the meaning, but I enjoyed it a lot anyway. I knew what happened with Nightwish before (also attended their last concert with Tarja), but I still didn't know how this song was related to that on my first listen. I got interested in the lyrics later and although that made me appreciate the song even more , I don't feel like my first listen was any less enjoyable.
Anyway nice reaction!
i, as many Nightwish fans, at the time, found the lyrics in this song as well as his conduct, before and after the letter confusing...his response was to shut the F* up and go away...to truly understand what happened one needs to read Marcelo's answers
I'm a huge fan of the whole band esp. Floor however seeing Tuomas sing along gets me every time cause I know how much he feels in this song.
Glad you are feeling better now, tbh I didn’t think there was anything wrong with the reaction and you have nothing to apologise for. As for the toxicity of some comments you may have got, unfortunately some people think they can say anything without clarity of thought or constructively just because they feel protected by the anonymity of being at the other end of a cable brings them, just ignore them, your a really good reactor, keep the faith in your music 🤘ignore the critics and haters
Nightwish, Storytime, Romanticide, Song of Myself......live at Wacken 2013......Hello from New Zealand.
Nice reaction (as allways) the equipment you mentioned is probably a " harmonizer" 😉
4 songs a showm This particular show featured an actual 20+ min song, a 10+ minute song and this was track 11 of 17.
Great reaction Sam.
Try: Melody Cristea: LILIAC - MARS (Original) (Live in Cumming, GA 2019)
I enjoyed ur reaction😈
Tell floor that their performance lacks a tank, maybe she can arrange something (her husband is Sabaton's drummer, they got a tank on stage).