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  • Crash of I42 a Tornado at TTTE Cottesmore in 1995.Both crew uninjured,aircraft returned to flight.

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  • @jonallen2407
    @jonallen2407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I was working on the line when this incident happened, I41 it became known as the 'Tarmac Toboggan'. I was in the crash tractor that attended the aircraft. After 18 months of repair it was flying again. If memory serves me it was a German crew flying an Italian jet.

  • @billy.g3597
    @billy.g3597 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I served at RAF Cottesmore from January 87 until May 95. As I recall there were two other major accidents involving TTTE Tornados.
    Just before I was posted to Cottesmore, an Italian Tornado with Italian crew slithered down the runway on its belly, whilst trying to take off.
    In the late 80's an Italian Tornado with German crew was lost in a mid air collision. They struck a Tornado from Marham. It happened at night over Cumbria. Tragically no one survived.
    Then there was this incident. Italian Tornado with German crew, go wheels up on landing and slides to a stop. Thankfully no one was injured. As I remember this particular incident happened earlier than 95. Maybe in 93/94.

  • @cyclemike5182
    @cyclemike5182 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Amazing footage. I was an instructor pilot at TTTE at the time and had just crewed out of my aircraft. I was walking back towards the line hut when I saw that aircraft and remember saying to my student "wow look, a crash!" It stayed there for quite a few hours and they had to get a crane in to shift it. The underside of the aircraft was worn to a wafer-thin piece of metal and it was in the hangar for ages, but I think it flew again. The cause was the pilot thinking he was moving the throttles forward for a roller landing, but instead he raised the undercarriage. A cognitive and expensive error!

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      A friend of mine worked in the simulators at the time and indeed,when they put the recording into the sim it was throttle and U/C selector confusion.The pilot had converted from 104's (I think) and the selectors are the other -way round! It did return to flight and i have a small part in my work-shop from the "belly".

    • @tanyano9
      @tanyano9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bit of a design flaw surly?...When weight is applied to the U/C legs its still lets you retract the gear?...I did notice all 3 legs went up in unison, as if it was "Meant" to happen.......

    • @tanyano9
      @tanyano9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just wondering Mike are you Flt Lt Mike Allton?....Did you display ZA560 (All back) GR1...1995 I recall......?

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I was told that the U/C has micro-switches fitted that "told" the system that the aircraft was on the ground but that during a roller,if the weight of the aircraft doesn't fully settle onto the U/C the micro-switches didn't trip the system.So a combination of floating onto the runway and selecting the wrong lever,both of which you could argue are design flaws!

    • @crazybrit-nasafan
      @crazybrit-nasafan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Cyclemike
      I forgot to say.....
      Thanks for the informative on this one. And also a huge thank you for serving to keep the free world safe.

  • @papagee100
    @papagee100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I 42 (Italian) aircraft with a German crew I was on the arrester team, it was the same crane driver that lifted the F3 adv off the runway at Coningsby a few years earlier although that one wasn't pilot error

  • @Jabber-ig3iw
    @Jabber-ig3iw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Tonkas are renowned for low level but that’s taking the piss.

  • @koitorob
    @koitorob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I've seen dogs do it, but didn't think Tornado pilots rid themselves of worms the same way...

  • @davidw.h1410
    @davidw.h1410 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The fact it survived shows its a great jet

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Pilot: What's this button for again.
    Back Seater: Which button
    Pilot: Never mind. I remember now

  • @ChrisZoomER
    @ChrisZoomER 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So glad the crew wasn’t injured.

  • @atomsky6598
    @atomsky6598 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    After landing with the gear up always make sure you put the gear lever in the down position, before you exit the aircraft.

    • @Biggles2498
      @Biggles2498 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Atom Sky …..Why to pretend you did everything possible ?

    • @michaelbevan3285
      @michaelbevan3285 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pointless....the flight computers will have recorded the activation of the gear lever; it was video'd so the evidence is already there and the undercarriage locks will prevent it from being selected down after the fact anyway and it would constitute deliberate impedance of an investigation, besides.

  • @nervo6321
    @nervo6321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lesson 1. Never raise the undercarrige when on the ground....

    • @nervo6321
      @nervo6321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Susan Ananda yes

    • @COIcultist
      @COIcultist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Susan Ananda Not quite the same as how the Tornado did or didn't do it look at this till the 47-second mark and ask the same question? It lost loading and the wheels lifted. th-cam.com/video/lteL18wd15Y/w-d-xo.html Not as sophisticated but apparently far better for high speed weed cutting. Nothing to do with your question but try the 11 minutes of this to see how "Antiquated" jets could perform: th-cam.com/video/24CaLD8l0OE/w-d-xo.html

  • @hansstopfer878
    @hansstopfer878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The tornado was one of the groundbreaking constructions in military aircraft construction, and had no comparable counterpart at the time. Only the F 14, but this could not take on any reconnaissance tasks. It has had a better weapon platform for decades
    not given before.

    • @eugeneoreilly9356
      @eugeneoreilly9356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thought the F111 flew before the Tornado.

    • @hansstopfer878
      @hansstopfer878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eugeneoreilly9356 I love the F 111.The F 111 cannot perform interception missions.Bye Hans.

    • @eugeneoreilly9356
      @eugeneoreilly9356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hansstopfer878 The Sukhoi flew before the Tornado .There was two different variants off tornado ,it wasn't multirole.

  • @Samuel-tg1rn
    @Samuel-tg1rn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My dad was one of the SAC and in charge of the crew that went to this incident. He was in the truck closest to the plane.

    • @jonallen2407
      @jonallen2407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry chap as an SAC he wouldn’t be in charge, a little junior in rank.

  • @matthewmarchant5933
    @matthewmarchant5933 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember this, I worked at the Falconry Centre in Greetham opposite the base, a friend told me the piss taking after was relentless

  • @mruppity64
    @mruppity64 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Local were quick of the mark making the Emergency State 1 tannoy

  • @kelvinware3416
    @kelvinware3416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I worked on the repair of this aircraft and gave tech evidence to the BOI

    • @PS-wn7cw
      @PS-wn7cw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So what happened? Did the landing gear malfunction or wasn't it given enough time to lock?

    • @kelvinware875
      @kelvinware875 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PS-wn7cw I vaguely recall that the pilot was doing a roller and had selected the uc lever up early. The weight on wheels (WOW) switches would have allowed the uc to retract. It was a good aircraft to work on when walking underneath. No pesky aerials or drains to hook up on. If you listen to the audio, the controller calls a State 1 about 3 secs after the first set of sparks. He was definitely on the ball.

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Top Crash!.. a good landing one you can walk away from! 👍✈️

  • @garryharriman7349
    @garryharriman7349 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My 1st posting in 1987 of a 20 year career as a 'Painter and Doper!'.

  • @janehiggs8197
    @janehiggs8197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there, would it be possible to let me know how I could contact you to request use of this footage within the context of a television programme I'm working on? best Jane

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jane...E-mail sent

  • @ottavva
    @ottavva 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    every landing is a good landing if you walk away

    • @mreid08
      @mreid08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except your supposed to fly first

    • @ottavva
      @ottavva 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mreid08
      you better check your grammar
      make your sentence clear and meaningful

    • @kenjones569
      @kenjones569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ottavva ,

    • @ottavva
      @ottavva 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kenjones569 what ?

    • @kenjones569
      @kenjones569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ottavva sorry that was a mistake

  • @nicholasschlangen3456
    @nicholasschlangen3456 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That's what is called flying nap-of-the-earth!

  • @barrygrant2907
    @barrygrant2907 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hum. Half the people on the internet must have been there when it happened.

    • @goodo5691
      @goodo5691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah i was there..wasn't you? maybe you didn't get the invite

    • @kelvinware875
      @kelvinware875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I repaired it

  • @billmorris2613
    @billmorris2613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 10 Oct 20.

  • @martinbayliss3868
    @martinbayliss3868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And after they rebuilt it it was still too short on range and operationally slower than the Buccaneer it replaced.

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Bucc wasn't supersonic was it?

    • @martinbayliss3868
      @martinbayliss3868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Tornado GR3 and 4 were in theory supersonic but in practice were firmly subsonic carrying a warlord which also reduced their range to comedy numbers. The Buccaneer by contrast could carry a similar warlord to the Tornado over three times the range at a faster speed overall for the mission. The Buccaneer was just a better all round strike jet. There is the well known story of when the Tornado entered service with the RAF and was sent on a mission to beat up Beirut to remind the locals to behave. A Buccaneer was sent to a company the super new electric flick nife as a buddy tanker. The Buccaneer flew there and back unrefueled while refueling the Tornado three times and the Buccaneer had to slow down to allow the Tornado to keep up without using burners to catch up which risked ditching the shiny new Tornado running on fumes in the sea short of Cyprus as it run out of fuel. The Tornado was a Euro fudge political jet, the Buccaneer was the world’s finest strike jet throughout its entire operational life.

    • @hollyruston2444
      @hollyruston2444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinbayliss3868 Do you mean Tornado GR1 and GR4? There wasn't a squadron GR3 variant.

    • @MrHistorian123
      @MrHistorian123 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martinbayliss3868 My friend flew down the Euphrates through Baghdad on reconnaissance missions during the invasion of Iraq and he rated the Tonka very highly indeed.

    • @martinbayliss3868
      @martinbayliss3868 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If he had flown a new build Buccaneer with upgraded avionics and sensors he would have rated that even higher.

  • @johnshooter2826
    @johnshooter2826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's the cargo plane full of rubber dog 💩 for you mate.

  • @thefreedomguyuk
    @thefreedomguyuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wasn't a crash at all. That's calling parking in a tight spot!

    • @johnbockelie3899
      @johnbockelie3899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Ach Himmel, ...........i forgot to put down der wheels!!!".😄

  • @nooragahail3572
    @nooragahail3572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This sliding tornado returned to flight ?

  • @keithscott1957
    @keithscott1957 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They put Vodka in the fuel tank and the Tornado became legless.

  • @easygoing2479
    @easygoing2479 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bet they save a lot on tires that way.

  • @LordStraightBanana
    @LordStraightBanana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Size of that tail. Only plane that can fly at 2 altitudes simultaneously.

  • @SPak-rt2gb
    @SPak-rt2gb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wrong way to do a touch & go.

  • @davecooper3238
    @davecooper3238 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn’t the term crash over egging it a bit ?

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  ปีที่แล้ว

      What would you call it?

    • @davecooper3238
      @davecooper3238 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motormouser I would class it as. A gear up landing.

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davecooper3238 If you listen carefully you'll hear the crash team tanoy say crash,so i'll stick with that.

    • @davecooper3238
      @davecooper3238 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@motormouser Perhaps a heat of the moment thing.

  • @billb7876
    @billb7876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was earlier than 95, more like 87 ish

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah i know as i videoed
      it!

  • @mattval6293
    @mattval6293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's the crash

  • @kristinawhorey3837
    @kristinawhorey3837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is meant to be an MRCA has become a nightmare to upkeep airplane. And does not fair well in a real combat. A great aircraft for its time though.

    • @blowingfree6928
      @blowingfree6928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The long range fighter version was never designed to be a dog fighter. It was designed to fly 100s of miles out into the Atlantic, extend it's wings and loiter for hours, waiting for soviet bombers. It would then engage the bombers (and fighters) at long range with missiles. Where didn't it fare well in 'real combat'? The Ground Attack version did well.

    • @kristinawhorey3837
      @kristinawhorey3837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blowingfree6928 From engine start to TO, it was not reliable, in Iraq, quite a number was shot down, pitted against F-5E, it did not do well, the ground attack version has got a mournful litany of "airworthiness directives" so to speak... in conclusion, similar to Harriers.. a sad saga

    • @blowingfree6928
      @blowingfree6928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kristinawhorey3837 You are a mournful litany of verbal diarrhoea. Some were shot down by SAMs, but that is to be expected at low level. None were shot down by F-5Es. No Harriers were shot down. You are a sad saga.

    • @imperialinquisition6006
      @imperialinquisition6006 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kristinawhorey3837 It was very effective and served very well? Where do you get your information from? It seems very very highly rated by pilots in their books/memoirs

    • @kristinawhorey3837
      @kristinawhorey3837 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imperialinquisition6006 they were some major problems with structure, etc

  • @mrr4979
    @mrr4979 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nose down...nose down...controller said.

  • @joseguite7770
    @joseguite7770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its not a crash, its a slide

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If the wheels fell off your car would you say you'd crashed or slid? :)

  • @andrewkerr3836
    @andrewkerr3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A belly flop isn't a crash.

  • @bjornbergann5871
    @bjornbergann5871 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fly by.....OMG......I do the wright thinf and stay in...

  • @jonesaviation1116
    @jonesaviation1116 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Space bar *exists*

  • @scottc543
    @scottc543 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, the humanity!

  • @The_Unintelligent_Speculator
    @The_Unintelligent_Speculator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Few skid marks all round

  • @STEVE-xv8gg
    @STEVE-xv8gg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    British?

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Italian aircraft flown by German crew

  • @DirtyMerkin
    @DirtyMerkin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Achilles Wheel

  • @goosf5746
    @goosf5746 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Crash?....where?....who?

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's all in the topline?!

    • @goosf5746
      @goosf5746 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      motormouser i t was incident, not crash

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Says crash on the official report so i'll stick with what the RAF says thanks :)

    • @goosf5746
      @goosf5746 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      motormouser 😁

    • @conkeroonee
      @conkeroonee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a crash. Just a landing with no undercarriage :)

  • @buckshot4569
    @buckshot4569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He should of put the burners on and gone for land speed record without wheels. 🤔

  • @mreid08
    @mreid08 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a crash, more like a brain fart

  • @pascalbreizh4070
    @pascalbreizh4070 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Trop tôt le train d 'atterrissage ?😖😖😖😖👎🎆

  • @ralphaverill2001
    @ralphaverill2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Belly landing. Not a crash.

  • @AwesomeAngryBiker
    @AwesomeAngryBiker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why must all the armchair pilots have to sprout their opinions and all the pilot's have to brag

    • @DraftySatyr
      @DraftySatyr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why does water flow downhill?

  • @MARTINBAKER007
    @MARTINBAKER007 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oops indeed here 😮🙊🙈

  • @dickiemcvitie1752
    @dickiemcvitie1752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flying lower than snake shit!!

  • @eduardocontabilidade9302
    @eduardocontabilidade9302 ปีที่แล้ว

    panavia

  • @helvetia1978
    @helvetia1978 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    a lot of bullshit talk in hear about that.....does someone know what precisely happen? Technical fault or pilot fault...combined?!? Appreciate facts and not Gamer and wanna be pilot remarks....

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pilot fault.Converting from aircraft that had throttles and gear selector on different sides and selected wrong lever!

  • @dirkvonkleiga5165
    @dirkvonkleiga5165 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Go NATO! Bitches!

  • @rogueplanet13
    @rogueplanet13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Id of ejected. Those guys are gods balls 👍

  • @supercat380
    @supercat380 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pilot who land with gear up, have baseless reason!!

  • @racom3399
    @racom3399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks fake to me... just for the initial start of the plane at the start of video... so innatural

    • @motormouser
      @motormouser  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tube does somthing to the video to reduce camera shake and it makes the video look odd. Google the incident if you want.

  • @AviationScanner
    @AviationScanner 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ieis

  • @c8136132
    @c8136132 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh those Italians!!

    • @andreao6008
      @andreao6008 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      1) the accident was before 1995, as in 1994 I was a student there and I-42 was already in hangar being put back together.
      2) TTTE flew Tornados from all 3 European Nations it was in service with. Specifically, the crew in this incident was NOT Italian (i will not specify which of the other two nations, out of respect.)

    • @Ace-Av8er
      @Ace-Av8er 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andreao6008 German.

    • @sichere
      @sichere 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ace-Av8erDid the Luftwaffe can claim another victory against the RAF ?

  • @jacksononesmo7694
    @jacksononesmo7694 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    American pilots

  • @hurchgoer
    @hurchgoer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    .

  • @BandytaCzasu
    @BandytaCzasu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The pilot mistakenly retracted the landing gear. That tells you how poorly the military pilots are trained compared with the commercial pilots.

    • @crazybrit-nasafan
      @crazybrit-nasafan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You can always tell when someone hasn't got a blimming clue what they are banging on about. If mil aircrew are so badly trained why are so many ex airforce folks flying self loading freight on Boeing spam cans?. People like 'Sulley' Sullenberger as of Miracle on the Hudson fame. He is an Ex USAF F4 pilot.

    • @TheophilusPWildbeest
      @TheophilusPWildbeest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Idiot. Go back to your computer games and come back when you've grown up.

    • @BandytaCzasu
      @BandytaCzasu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The comments are another proof of widespread functional illiteracy.
      "AAIB (civil) reports"? I wrote "COMMERCIAL pilots", not private people in Cessnas. When was the last time a commercial pilot ruined a Boeing by sheer negligence?

    • @TheophilusPWildbeest
      @TheophilusPWildbeest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      BandytaCzasu Like I said, you're an idiot. Stop shouting about things you have not experienced.

    • @WalknTalknStevnHawkn
      @WalknTalknStevnHawkn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lmao, you are really talking about those commercial airliners that are literal glorified computers? fuck right off, clown.

  • @aabeejan4238
    @aabeejan4238 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Tornado were failed aircrafts.

    • @bluerallyes2
      @bluerallyes2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Aabee Jan do fuck off...

    • @gravydavy4188
      @gravydavy4188 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I totally agree, they're so bad they were only in service for 40 years. You failed Troll.

    • @hansstopfer878
      @hansstopfer878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An airframe has a certain lifespan, which is why 40 years of service life is exceptionally long under the stresses of deep flight. The tornado is a groundbreaking construction in military aviation history. Bye Hans.

    • @hansstopfer878
      @hansstopfer878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gravydavy4188 An airframe has a certain lifespan, which is why 40 years of service life is exceptionally long under the stresses of deep flight. The tornado is a groundbreaking construction in military aviation history.

    • @mashbury
      @mashbury 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The F-35 won’t last half as long