@@oabd13 you're saying Casemiro conspired to give away 2 goals deliberately against our biggest rivals just to get a manager sacked and the proof of this was that he scored 2 goals against a worse team in the league cup a couple of months later. How could I possibly argue with that logic?
As a neutral fan, I’m annoyed how little praise is given to the De Ligt and Mazraoui signings. Both very composed and fitted right in, but its lost amongst the chaos to united’s start.
@@MaxDangVu they've only been here 5 minutes during a time where united are 14th. They were praised during their first couple of appearances but since then their performances have been mixed. Like everyone's.
@@MajorMumwett I disagree. Mazraoui hasn't put a foot wrong all season and been so smart and technical in his play. De Ligt been brilliant as well and no signs of him being inconsistent. Maybe the Porto game but Martinez was terrible in that game also. Ugarte has been unfairly hammered for no reason other than frustration of how badly we have started the season. He's looked world class against Fenerbache and Leicester and I'm sick of people questioning his passing as if he's just another Fred. He is class and only 23. Yoro a world class talent. Only Zirkzee looks like a bad fit doesn't look like scoring a goal ever which is a terrible sign but lets see what happens. He will be easy to sell to a Serie A club at least.
@@satarmezher6244 not sure what you're expecting. They've played less than 15 games and united have only won 4. The club has just sacked the manager because the team has been so poor. Nobody has stood out as playing brilliant and no one is criticising Mazraoui or De Ligt. Don't expect them to be praised when the team has performed so badly.
While I think Antony is shite and Amad is a better player, its funny to see them say Amads goal against Liverpool is a reason to keep him and "Antony hasnt done anything in the last 18 months" despite scoring an important goal on the same game. I like Amad and think he should play more, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesnt light up the league after a run of games.
Antony has the right aggression for the team imagine if the whole team had his aggression we would be a force. its his end product that's the issue. if he could be used as a lwb of get into a position that we are lacking i see a future still for him.
Joe do you know what a manager favourite is? Your critcism of amad can be reversed, by your logic anthony is worth a new contract because the manager picked him a lot. Rashford was awful for 15 months and was picked every week. We've seen players like salah be rejected at top clubs for whatever reason. The best player dont always picked and sometimes dont even get opportunities to get into the team. Humans are bias...
Bro wants to sell Amad when he scored in his debut for united at 19, became player of the year for sunderland scoring and assisting, and when he returned to united, Ten Hag benches him, so we don't get to see what he's really capable of. He really needs a run of games to see what he can actually do but we did see glimpses of his talent. We need that kind of player in our team.
Yep I'm not quite sure where that idea of him not playing is a bad thing on him it's not his fault he performs everytime he plays but ten hag spent 90 million on that brazillian clown so I feel l8ke he was forced to give him game time over amad
Don't get me wrong but If you're going to talk about the importance of the amad goal vs Liverpool you have to talk about the importance of Antony's goal vs Liverpool too if it wasn't for that goal we don't even get extra time
I'm hoping (like we all are) Amorim is not another villas boas. He is held up in such high regard, but look at what the pressure and media have done to all our managers post Sir alex, they have all petered out and left beaten men. The club has to protect this guy from day one, he will need an arm around him from all the guys that bought him in. If this happens , then he has a chance.
Amad just turned 22. Wtf Joe?? Been at loan, Rangers and Sunderland, was 21years old when he returned. Only played 30 less games than Luke Shaw since 2020 and Joe wants to keep Shaw🙈🙈
@@scottsinner7530 well, he was the only united player to win a Premier League player of the month last season. He isn't first choice anymore and I honestly can't remember the last time he played badly. I'm glad he's still at the club. I don't give a toss about memes or Howson's opinion. I judge him by what I see.
@@MajorMumwettWhat determines a good player? By that right anyone playing professionally is a good player. In my opinion I think Maguires only attribute is his heading and yet he barely scores headers.
Look at all the people that have been defending Ten Hag all come out in the comments to blame the players. So predictable. Unfortunately the players were behind ten hag throughtout, trying to play a flawed gameplan every match. It was the manager's stubborn refusal to admit his tactics were terrible and would never work. Everybody could see it since the wolves game on the first day of last season. Accept it.
What does his wage actually matter. He's costing the club less than all of our signings when you account for their transfer fees and wages. If anyone at a club deserves a high salary it's your academy graduates who have been there for 20 years. More power to him.
Rashford gets rid of managers for fun. The reason why they won't let rashford go is because they bias to people who not only come from the academy but to players who are local lads. So no matter how shit rashford is u will never hear him being held accountable the way let's say an anthony would be.
His formations at Sporting don't use wingers. I'm concerned therefore, that he'll want to sell Garnacho and Amad. I hope I'm wrong because they're talents we should be keeping.
He does, they just become inside forwards which is perfect for Garnacho and Amad because they can link up. He’s used wingers as wing backs too so Garnacho could easily fit there
@@sethtrollins4202, he could but then, that's assuming that a) he rates Garnacho and Amad as inside forwards and b) that either or both have the defensive qualities that he will want in wing backs.
@@tolkienfan10 His wing backs aren't particularly great defenders; just bodies in that position really. They are far more important to the attacking unit.
Joe is off his rocker even questioning Diallo… 18months of the 4 years he’s been here he’s been on loans and one of those he absolutely teared up the championship as a 19 for Sunderland… we signed him wen he was 18 what does Joe expect from him wen Tan Hag never really liked him and give him a chance
Dalot was just as patient and sacrificed even more to be able to play for United than Dialo. Dalot produced the goods. He was United's player of the season last year. Dialo is a baller, but he's also a whole lot of unfulfilled promises.
I do want Ruben Amorim as manager but there is too many players that wouldn’t suit Ruben Amorim system at the club. So another big clear out for next season. He doesn’t play wingers he players with 2 CAMs, He plays with 3 CBs and doesn’t play with full backs he uses a right mid and left mid
Said this in another comment. Our attackers don’t want to play like wingers either so they’ll be fine and Garnacho could even be a wing back if we want to be mega attacking
@@leemassey24 Have you not learnt that allowing managers to bring in "there" players to the PL is a mistake. We wouldn't look at those two players if it wasn't for the new manager. Any good CB can change to a 3, its more difficult going from a 3 to a 2.
@@leemassey24If we’re getting anyone it’d 100% be Gyokeres for me and Hjulmand possibly. But there’s some solid CB’s out there, and I do believe he’ll enjoy working with Kukonki too
Joe throwing shade at Amad because Ten Hag didn't rate him! Ten Hag is the man who thought Antony was worth 80 million quid, I wouldn't trust his judgement of players!
It’s a shame that Joe and Jay have such low standards for Rashford. It’s says a lot about where he’s at with his football. I think it’s better for him that he moves on
Not rocket science atleast 10 of this squad need told to do one, primarily Maguire Lindelof Shaw Dalot Rashford Bruno who have been here year after year and been a part/leaders of this vile culture that’s been built.
People keep talking about his 343 system as though it's 5 defenders. He plays with 4 traditional wingers, his "wingbacks" are both midfield wingers, his 10's are wingers. His version of 433 is incredibly attacking.
5:00 conte and tuchel got success from 3 at the back , lvg tried playing 3 at the back in his first season and didn’t have the right centre backs to play it (Blackett rojo McNair etc). No one cares what formation we play we just want to see improvements on the pitch
I don't know if he'll stick with the 3-4-2-1 but it's quite likely given the success he's had. I like the fact that he mostly uses hardworking wingers in the fullback position. I'm no tactician but it makes Sporting exciting to watch.
Agree with SH on just about everything. There should be a follow up video that shows which teams are going to be able to, or even want to be able to afford the wages of these players in relation to their quality that are in the sell column. That would be cracking if it could be accomplished but don't see it happening.
Is he good enough? Do you really trigger the clause in his contract & extend for one more year paying him 190k per week to sit on the bench? Release him. Invest in young CB on 50k
i don’t see why you’re so keen on getting rid of mount. he doesn’t have a long term history of injuries so he’s just been unlucky, if he leaves and performs at another club we’ll be kicking ourselves for letting him go
i know we’ve had diallo for a while now but let’s also not forget his first goal for us against ac milan in the europa league being a well timed header against a 6 foot 5 donnarumma. his talent was never something that was in question but more so his physique for playing in the prem. when given the chance, he makes things happen and actually plays smart moving forward. we’ve seen it during moments in his sunderland spell. good work rate going back as well as forward. would be crazy to get rid so quick when he’s now looked to have physically matured for his height and size🙏🏽
Sounds to me that Amorin is another "system' Manager, just like Pep. They have a set 'system' , never deviate from it and go after only players that fit their 'system'. When United were at their best, they never had a 'system', they never went after players that fit their system, they found players that fit their needs. Case in point, when United lost their title to City on Goal difference, SAF went out and got someone who would score goals. Robin Van Persie. He never worried if he was great at hold up play, whether he was good with his back to goal, or if his pressing was up to speed or if he could drop deep and bring people into play, etc, etc. He knew RVP could score goals and that's what United NEEDED. So , again United have gone after a 'system' guy who will force players to play his 'system' instead of a Carlo Ancelotti type who plays the best system to fit his guys. That's what Ineo should have considered with their next hire. It seems to me that this move is the same as the move for ETH in the first place. He couldn't get this group to play Ten Hag ball, whatever that is and he didn't have the coaching mantle to figure out the best way to play to get the best out of his players. Wonder if Amorin is more Pep or Carlo?
42:53 on Rashford this is where the problem begins, name for me 2 wingers that score 30 goals a season in recent years Mo Salah aside. It’s not normal for wingers to do that. We should stop expecting wingers to do number 9 things.
We just expect a player that is lucky to put a Manchester United top on to put effort in, look like he cares, and help the team. He does none of those basic things, he's a disgrace.
I don't know where this love in for this player has come from. For his own career he should look for a move to Fulham or a team like that. I think he would have a great career for a team like that.
Re Mount: Ten Hag said he had the injury and then also had a "knock". Whatever it is he needs to get his arse fit now and fucking stay fit for a while.
46:00 After a new deal is he? 😂😂 I'd keep Rashford. I want him to lift the Premier League title. First academy graduate to win the league for Man United in a long time. He deserves it. Hopefully, Amorim plays him in his preferred position on the left wing. As for Garnacho, for me at best he's a squad player unless he improves his decision making in the final third. However, if Real Madrid want him for £100 million, I'll drive him to the airport myself. I dont believe he is worth that but Garnacho fan boys would let you believe otherwise.
Garnacho's numbers are comparable to CR7s at the same age. I think Garnacho has insane potential and is already touching elite levels. He will become world class.
Ste I think you are very knowledgeable about football and definitely a lot more than me, but I totally disagree that we were better against West Ham than Leicester. West Ham we were dominant but wasteful in the first half, poor until their goal where we kicked on, then unlucky in the end mixed with not urgent enough. I’m never going to get carried away because it’s United but we were much more dominant (without being as dominant possession based) against Leicester. Please could you elaborate why you think we were better against West Ham?
A Man Utd contract is an investment in your abilities to push us further, it feels like some players see it as a reward for what they’ve done and we haven’t seen them since.
Joe, stop being the man with "supposedly witty" questions! Now my take - We may keep Shaw, paid based on appearances! And sell for 30 MIL Malacia, keep for now until he "appears" and then evaluate. Martinez being a front-footed defender, shouldn't be played as a fullback and/or wingback as this is physically more demanding, THE best defender post RIO-VIDIC Linda, Iceman, goodbye Harold, keep for now and wait until Yoro becomes a permanent member of the first 11 Jonathan Grant Evans MBE, our brother, keep De Ligt, one of the main guys in our backline Dalot-Balot (bal in Bengali means pubic hair); culpable for some of the mistakes in the pitch, keep for now Mazraoui, alhamdulillah for him Casemiro, keep for now and shouldn't be playing max 4 games in a month Ugarte, needs to adapt and improve, his ceiling is certainly higher Ericksen, keep for experience Mason Mount, the False 7, the wrong Mason. I still do not know where he can and should play. He is not a YOUNG guy anymore. Go, but who takes him? Southhampton, perhaps? Bruno retires from playing for us Amad, I believe he can play as a wingback, is good on the wing, and just needs to improve in his output through goal contribution Antony, we wasted enough Garnacho, must start to play like a team player, I can not rely on him, for now, sell if someone comes with big money, 70~100 MIL Rashford, must keep his focus on, stop being demoralized by criticism, and perform consistently, and in the meantime keep looking for a replacement Hojlund, can become a 25+ goal a-season striker Zirkzee, we wasted a little bit of money, lightweight, crumbles on pressure, has zero hold-up play, and moderate build-up play, I do not like him as a player playing for us And can we bring the TRUE Mason, Mason Greenwood back?
I don’t quite get the opinions on Dalot. Fella was our player of the season last year - this year he’s been stuck at left back.. Is Mazraoui great? Yep. Did we really need him? Not as much as we need a LB.
I think people already writing Zirkzee off is mad. give him a run of games and let's see, also can't judge a player off first season (the premier league is a different animal). Let's remember It can take certain players time to adjust
Mount, Lindleloff, Anthony, Casemiro,Evan’s, all out. We need more from Rashford if not sell him, the rest we can work with. We need a more seasoned striker too, Hojlund won’t get us 20+ goals a season. Put Zirkzee on loan
Onana absolutely is a problem. He is fine most of the time when the shots in his arm span but his diving form is poor which kills his spring and that stunts his reach. Even this season where he has made less howlers a number of the goals he has conceded other keepers would have atleast got a glove on them and he gets no where near. He also has what I call jelly arms, the best keepers will have strong arms which allows them to divert the ball powerfully out of the danger zone, all too often we see Onana get no control on the save and it will limply drop back into the damager area. He just technically isn't good enough, even if you want a ball playing keeper he has to atleast be solid in the basic of a keeper and he just isn't. And its not even as if its a TAA situation where a player is just so effective in other areas of the game that you can forgive being weak at the core elements of that role, his distribution just hasn't been to the level where you can forgive his keeping issues, maybe if he was playing players in with amazing balls a few times a match you could but he isn't doing that
@@steve0ization it is actually doable when you consider the savings on wages alone. Four are out of contract (Evans, Maguire, Lindelof, Eriksen) already saving of £25m
Casemiro has had really good performances this season. Keep him and try to reduce his wages with a new contract. He'll be a Rolls Royce until the age of 38.
I disagree with shaw. Because of his injuries we won’t get anything for him and will probably have to pay him to leave. Can play as a wingback and he is quality, keep as a back up to a new left back.
I would sell rashford in the summer if he doesn't look like he's fitting amorims system and by kvarachelia. I think in one of the 10 positions kvaradonna will look unreal
I’d break down to: people who are just taking the pay cheque, troublemakers and people that down suit style. Shaw, Antony , malcia. Maguire, rashford, zerksi,mount.
Are you guys not concerned about the lack of wingers been watching United since 1985 and you talk about the United way for me it’s developing young players and counter attacking football with flamboyant wingers. For me a big part of the problems is trying to play out from the back and replicating tiki taka. The press conferences I’ve seen I like his personality but concerned about no wingers
But thats not what we have been doing at all.. we have never played tiki taka, and playing out from the back, how is that a problem? We have been playing direct, high press, low defensive line. What do our wingers get us rn? Garnacho 9-10 goals max per season, Rash same, Amad 2-3, Antony 0. Thats best case scenario. Reality more like 3-5 from Rashy & Garnacho. We dont have any elite wingers.
Joe’s right to question Diallo. There is a lot of exaggeration with him. I hope he does well and Joe says the same, but tired of the delusion with our players.
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I feel like we've done this video 5/6 times in the last two years
And soon the Man Utd players will plan the down fall of Ruben 💔😭
@@LeaoK2it was the manager. Not the players.
@@MajorMumwettyou sure about that? Cause the same casemiro gave away 2 goals to liverpool scores from outside the box😂
@@oabd13 you're saying Casemiro conspired to give away 2 goals deliberately against our biggest rivals just to get a manager sacked and the proof of this was that he scored 2 goals against a worse team in the league cup a couple of months later.
How could I possibly argue with that logic?
@@MajorMumwett ofc the players are at fault as well. Did your watch literally ANY game this season? 😂
As a neutral fan, I’m annoyed how little praise is given to the De Ligt and Mazraoui signings. Both very composed and fitted right in, but its lost amongst the chaos to united’s start.
@@MaxDangVu they've only been here 5 minutes during a time where united are 14th. They were praised during their first couple of appearances but since then their performances have been mixed. Like everyone's.
@@MajorMumwett I disagree. Mazraoui hasn't put a foot wrong all season and been so smart and technical in his play. De Ligt been brilliant as well and no signs of him being inconsistent. Maybe the Porto game but Martinez was terrible in that game also. Ugarte has been unfairly hammered for no reason other than frustration of how badly we have started the season. He's looked world class against Fenerbache and Leicester and I'm sick of people questioning his passing as if he's just another Fred. He is class and only 23. Yoro a world class talent. Only Zirkzee looks like a bad fit doesn't look like scoring a goal ever which is a terrible sign but lets see what happens. He will be easy to sell to a Serie A club at least.
@@satarmezher6244 not sure what you're expecting. They've played less than 15 games and united have only won 4. The club has just sacked the manager because the team has been so poor. Nobody has stood out as playing brilliant and no one is criticising Mazraoui or De Ligt. Don't expect them to be praised when the team has performed so badly.
@@MajorMumwett had 5 or 6 clean sheets
just curious, what team you support?
While I think Antony is shite and Amad is a better player, its funny to see them say Amads goal against Liverpool is a reason to keep him and "Antony hasnt done anything in the last 18 months" despite scoring an important goal on the same game. I like Amad and think he should play more, but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesnt light up the league after a run of games.
Barcelona goal too
Antony has the right aggression for the team imagine if the whole team had his aggression we would be a force. its his end product that's the issue. if he could be used as a lwb of get into a position that we are lacking i see a future still for him.
And so it begins
The Portuguese Inquisition 😩
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It never ended.
I agree with Ste. Looking at the xG, Erik can still turn this around.
Here we go again😂
Rashford gonna scrore 25 goals this season and then get Amorim sacked next season 😂
Been here like 5 times before
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@@ThisIsMyRodrick yeah next season, maybe season after… it’s all a matter of time
Keep mainoo, everyone else can go
Joe do you know what a manager favourite is?
Your critcism of amad can be reversed, by your logic anthony is worth a new contract because the manager picked him a lot. Rashford was awful for 15 months and was picked every week. We've seen players like salah be rejected at top clubs for whatever reason. The best player dont always picked and sometimes dont even get opportunities to get into the team. Humans are bias...
Did he pick him a lot? Not last season or this season he didn't.
Rashford free pass again 😂🤡🤡
He'll go at some point surely, he personifies the post Fergie era
@@ste4392he will go when he’s 31
@harismujkanovic2327 oh good
They might wise up if he’s gets another 2 managers sacked
I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked.
Get rid anyone who can't stay fit for 5 games in a row
@@Jamiestanlee471 that leaves us Bruno and Onana lol
@MajorMumwett exactly lol
@@MajorMumwettGarnacho and Dalot too.
@@Adamwhite-e9d true. To be fair Rashford doesn't get injured very often either. Over 400 games by 26 years old is incredible.
@@MajorMumwett Very true indeed, though the argument stands that he hardly exerts himself in games over the last couple of seasons.
Bro wants to sell Amad when he scored in his debut for united at 19, became player of the year for sunderland scoring and assisting, and when he returned to united, Ten Hag benches him, so we don't get to see what he's really capable of. He really needs a run of games to see what he can actually do but we did see glimpses of his talent. We need that kind of player in our team.
"player of the year for sunderland"
Joe ‘s obsession and criticism of Amad is weird
The fact he argued keeping Mount and selling Amad is utter bonkers
He is actually a bit of a clown
He doesn't know football....it's obvious on every upload
Joe has no idea about football
Yep I'm not quite sure where that idea of him not playing is a bad thing on him it's not his fault he performs everytime he plays but ten hag spent 90 million on that brazillian clown so I feel l8ke he was forced to give him game time over amad
Or it’s a youtube video and they’re trying to make it a conversation
Don't get me wrong but If you're going to talk about the importance of the amad goal vs Liverpool you have to talk about the importance of Antony's goal vs Liverpool too if it wasn't for that goal we don't even get extra time
The Bruno goal ⚽ from his own half set the tone for that win
Spot on, and i dont lie antony at all
@@robbiekop7Different game. That was the league fixture we drew 2-2.
They never will critique a player who comes from.the academy oppose to an actual transfer . They can never see things from a objective point of view
@@robbiekop7 different game.
I'm hoping (like we all are) Amorim is not another villas boas. He is held up in such high regard, but look at what the pressure and media have done to all our managers post Sir alex, they have all petered out and left beaten men. The club has to protect this guy from day one, he will need an arm around him from all the guys that bought him in. If this happens , then he has a chance.
I really don’t like when Ste is like that. I rather when he’s calm and a bit more rational
Amad just turned 22. Wtf Joe?? Been at loan, Rangers and Sunderland, was 21years old when he returned. Only played 30 less games than Luke Shaw since 2020 and Joe wants to keep Shaw🙈🙈
Questioning Amad and Kobbie but sticking up for Mount is an interesting opinion.
mount and shaw are sicknotes. weak
Joe and Jay are obsessed with trying to make people think Maguire is a good player 😂
@@joecassie4975 he is a good player. Not world class but definitely good.
It's embarrassing at this point 😂
@@MajorMumwetthe’s good. But he’s not good enough.
@@scottsinner7530 well, he was the only united player to win a Premier League player of the month last season. He isn't first choice anymore and I honestly can't remember the last time he played badly. I'm glad he's still at the club. I don't give a toss about memes or Howson's opinion. I judge him by what I see.
@@MajorMumwettWhat determines a good player? By that right anyone playing professionally is a good player. In my opinion I think Maguires only attribute is his heading and yet he barely scores headers.
Look at all the people that have been defending Ten Hag all come out in the comments to blame the players.
So predictable. Unfortunately the players were behind ten hag throughtout, trying to play a flawed gameplan every match. It was the manager's stubborn refusal to admit his tactics were terrible and would never work. Everybody could see it since the wolves game on the first day of last season. Accept it.
For the wages, we need more from Rashford.
Pay doesn’t equate to goals son
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@ no he’s long gone pal
@@onefortheroad1 I can't tell if you're agreeing or not 😂
What does his wage actually matter. He's costing the club less than all of our signings when you account for their transfer fees and wages. If anyone at a club deserves a high salary it's your academy graduates who have been there for 20 years. More power to him.
Litterally Ste or Jay every third sentence “Imagine Roy Keane..” 😂 Standards. Love it!
The decision to keep Rashford is crazy! He's not inconsistent - he's consistently rubbish. Anything we get for him would be a bonus.
Rashford gets rid of managers for fun. The reason why they won't let rashford go is because they bias to people who not only come from the academy but to players who are local lads.
So no matter how shit rashford is u will never hear him being held accountable the way let's say an anthony would be.
You're mental. Rashford is mint.
His formations at Sporting don't use wingers. I'm concerned therefore, that he'll want to sell Garnacho and Amad. I hope I'm wrong because they're talents we should be keeping.
He does, they just become inside forwards which is perfect for Garnacho and Amad because they can link up. He’s used wingers as wing backs too so Garnacho could easily fit there
@@sethtrollins4202, he could but then, that's assuming that a) he rates Garnacho and Amad as inside forwards and b) that either or both have the defensive qualities that he will want in wing backs.
but if they don't fit in the system - why keep them? Maybe they can play as wingbacks?
@@tolkienfan10 they don't get into any other top 4 team
@@tolkienfan10 His wing backs aren't particularly great defenders; just bodies in that position really. They are far more important to the attacking unit.
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Joe is off his rocker even questioning Diallo… 18months of the 4 years he’s been here he’s been on loans and one of those he absolutely teared up the championship as a 19 for Sunderland… we signed him wen he was 18 what does Joe expect from him wen Tan Hag never really liked him and give him a chance
Amad just isn’t that good. He’s small. Doesn’t have pace. Very little attacking output.
Squad player ... at best
Rashford is a sell! Sell!!! SELL!!
Dalot was just as patient and sacrificed even more to be able to play for United than Dialo. Dalot produced the goods. He was United's player of the season last year. Dialo is a baller, but he's also a whole lot of unfulfilled promises.
Joe will fight tooth and nail for Maguire yet has a problem with amad is all the evidence I need that he’s related 😂🤣🤯🤯
As an American who was an adult during the Clinton era, I can confirm that impression is absolutely mint!
I do want Ruben Amorim as manager but there is too many players that wouldn’t suit Ruben Amorim system at the club. So another big clear out for next season.
He doesn’t play wingers he players with 2 CAMs, He plays with 3 CBs and doesn’t play with full backs he uses a right mid and left mid
Said this in another comment. Our attackers don’t want to play like wingers either so they’ll be fine and Garnacho could even be a wing back if we want to be mega attacking
@ I’d like us too sign diomande or inacio for centre back either one. Probs summer tho not January coming up. We need 1 more centre back
@@leemassey24 Have you not learnt that allowing managers to bring in "there" players to the PL is a mistake. We wouldn't look at those two players if it wasn't for the new manager. Any good CB can change to a 3, its more difficult going from a 3 to a 2.
@@leemassey24If we’re getting anyone it’d 100% be Gyokeres for me and Hjulmand possibly. But there’s some solid CB’s out there, and I do believe he’ll enjoy working with Kukonki too
@@sethtrollins4202 fucking hell yea definitely need a striker. Need someone whose gonna get goals
Joes a proper weirdo for that Amad stuff. Especially if you compare it to his takes on other players
He’s biased towards English players
Fantastic analysis lads.
Been waiting all day for off the bar, always a fun one
Joe throwing shade at Amad because Ten Hag didn't rate him! Ten Hag is the man who thought Antony was worth 80 million quid, I wouldn't trust his judgement of players!
Such a weird take, a sacked manager doesn't rate him so he can't be good 😂. I do wonder how some of these TH-camrs get these gigs 😂
What makes you think Ten Hag thought Antony was worth £80m?
I did this with ya'll , one disagree on one choice but also put in my options to buy.
Keep and Buy ? in-between ? :
Gk: Onana / Vitek / Heaton
Defense: CB Yoro / De Ligt / Evans / Martinez / Shaw / ? Hato ?
Midfield: WB Dalot / Mazroui / Amass / ? F. Parisi ?
CDM/CM Ugarte / ? Hjulmand ? / Collyer / Mainoo / Eriksen
Forwards: CAM Amad / Bruno / ? Wirtz ? / Rash / Gnacho
ST Hoijlund / Zirks / ? Ferguson ?
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My picks :
Jorrel Hato -LCB / Fabiano Parisi - LWB / Morten Hjulmand / Florian Wirtz / Evan Ferguson
Other Options:
LCB - Castello Lukeba / Nico Schlotterbeck / Jarrad Branthwaite
LWB - Luca Netz / Adrien Truffert / Quentin Merlin
CDM/CM - Nico Gonzalez / Nicolò Rovella / Martín Zubimendi
ST - Benjamin Sesko / Viktor Gyökeres
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Sell:
Bayindir
Linds
Malacia
Cass
Mount
Antony
“ I don’t he did fuck it let him go”absolutely fucking classic
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It’s a shame that Joe and Jay have such low standards for Rashford. It’s says a lot about where he’s at with his football. I think it’s better for him that he moves on
I know Antony is shit, but I think he could legit make a half decent lwb
Why ?.
Because he can’t defend. He’s small. No bravery at all. Is tiny. Has no end product.
@@danielberry4765 his work rate agression and speed
@caniz80 His "aggression" is actually petulance and he's not that quick. At times he does have decent work rate but he can't defend.
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His work rate 😂 the guy slide tackles to avoid running back.
Not rocket science atleast 10 of this squad need told to do one, primarily Maguire Lindelof Shaw Dalot Rashford Bruno who have been here year after year and been a part/leaders of this vile culture that’s been built.
Bruno has to go obviously, being our best player isn’t enough.
😂muppets
Joe and Jay are obviously too comfortable with us being shit for so long. it shows..
We've done this same video 2 years ago and the same players who fail to perform are still here. Players have FAR too much fucking power
Good interview with Welbeck on Sky we shouldn't have got rid LVG 😡
People keep talking about his 343 system as though it's 5 defenders. He plays with 4 traditional wingers, his "wingbacks" are both midfield wingers, his 10's are wingers.
His version of 433 is incredibly attacking.
5:00 conte and tuchel got success from 3 at the back , lvg tried playing 3 at the back in his first season and didn’t have the right centre backs to play it (Blackett rojo McNair etc). No one cares what formation we play we just want to see improvements on the pitch
I don't know if he'll stick with the 3-4-2-1 but it's quite likely given the success he's had. I like the fact that he mostly uses hardworking wingers in the fullback position. I'm no tactician but it makes Sporting exciting to watch.
Agree with SH on just about everything. There should be a follow up video that shows which teams are going to be able to, or even want to be able to afford the wages of these players in relation to their quality that are in the sell column. That would be cracking if it could be accomplished but don't see it happening.
Sell/Release:
Shaw, Dalot, Lindelof, Evans, Malacia, Eriksen, Casemiro, Antony.
Last straw:
Mount
Harry M has the right attitude
But wrong attributes
@davidellinsworth3299 at least he gives a fuck
Is he good enough? Do you really trigger the clause in his contract & extend for one more year paying him 190k per week to sit on the bench? Release him. Invest in young CB on 50k
You know what, mate. Maguire's attitude makes me fume. His social media posts make me want to puke.
i don’t see why you’re so keen on getting rid of mount. he doesn’t have a long term history of injuries so he’s just been unlucky, if he leaves and performs at another club we’ll be kicking ourselves for letting him go
Joe way off the mark with Amad. Makes me think you don’t watch football at all.
Alvaro Fernandez is an option at LB
i know we’ve had diallo for a while now but let’s also not forget his first goal for us against ac milan in the europa league being a well timed header against a 6 foot 5 donnarumma. his talent was never something that was in question but more so his physique for playing in the prem. when given the chance, he makes things happen and actually plays smart moving forward. we’ve seen it during moments in his sunderland spell. good work rate going back as well as forward. would be crazy to get rid so quick when he’s now looked to have physically matured for his height and size🙏🏽
Giving a 32 year old Maguire a new contract is just dumb, we need fast and very good on the ball CBs.
Joe said Amad never did anything other than Liverpool. Had an absolutely class goal against ac Milan too under ole. A goal that won us the tie.
People dont talk about Lingard enough with Marcus. I reckon him not having his mate there keeping spirits high actually had an effect
I think Ineos had been working on Amorim for a bit, and the West Ham result came at a time they were far enough along to say enough is enough.
Sounds to me that Amorin is another "system' Manager, just like Pep. They have a set 'system' , never deviate from it and go after only players that fit their 'system'. When United were at their best, they never had a 'system', they never went after players that fit their system, they found players that fit their needs. Case in point, when United lost their title to City on Goal difference, SAF went out and got someone who would score goals. Robin Van Persie. He never worried if he was great at hold up play, whether he was good with his back to goal, or if his pressing was up to speed or if he could drop deep and bring people into play, etc, etc. He knew RVP could score goals and that's what United NEEDED.
So , again United have gone after a 'system' guy who will force players to play his 'system' instead of a Carlo Ancelotti type who plays the best system to fit his guys. That's what Ineo should have considered with their next hire. It seems to me that this move is the same as the move for ETH in the first place. He couldn't get this group to play Ten Hag ball, whatever that is and he didn't have the coaching mantle to figure out the best way to play to get the best out of his players. Wonder if Amorin is more Pep or Carlo?
Lost me at keep Harry McGuire
No they did not 😮
Got arguably the best mentality in the entire squad. Unironically.
@@RaffaDeee mentality and athletic ability of a donkey. He CAN'T play out from the back
You cannot have Maguire on £190k/week on the bench. Better to sign prospect on £50k
42:53 on Rashford this is where the problem begins, name for me 2 wingers that score 30 goals a season in recent years Mo Salah aside. It’s not normal for wingers to do that. We should stop expecting wingers to do number 9 things.
We just expect a player that is lucky to put a Manchester United top on to put effort in, look like he cares, and help the team. He does none of those basic things, he's a disgrace.
Thinking to sell Amad has pissed me all the way off man wtf is the agenda that Joe has on Amad
I don't know where this love in for this player has come from. For his own career he should look for a move to Fulham or a team like that. I think he would have a great career for a team like that.
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Because he is the only intelligent ball playing forward we have unlike the headless chicken runners so quite simple really
Love how you all defended EtH and in the same breath would keep 10 of your current starting xi
Your standards are in the toilet
Re Mount: Ten Hag said he had the injury and then also had a "knock". Whatever it is he needs to get his arse fit now and fucking stay fit for a while.
3rd highest played player at the club
@@caniz80 is he? No clue. All I know is we need that money producing on the pitch.
Wild shout, Antony to be used as a wing back and become an integral part of the team. I don’t believe this but it would be wild eh
46:00
After a new deal is he? 😂😂
I'd keep Rashford. I want him to lift the Premier League title. First academy graduate to win the league for Man United in a long time. He deserves it.
Hopefully, Amorim plays him in his preferred position on the left wing.
As for Garnacho, for me at best he's a squad player unless he improves his decision making in the final third.
However, if Real Madrid want him for £100 million, I'll drive him to the airport myself. I dont believe he is worth that but Garnacho fan boys would let you believe otherwise.
You're up for a rude awakening. Take care
@@JoJoKayo All views are my own 🤫
Garnacho's numbers are comparable to CR7s at the same age. I think Garnacho has insane potential and is already touching elite levels. He will become world class.
Keep: Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad
Loan: Hojlund, Yoro, Zirkzee
Sell: Everyone else.
Casemiro could be a good number 8 in Amorim's system with bruno and Ashford as inside forwards. The timing could not have been better for Amorim.
Ste I think you are very knowledgeable about football and definitely a lot more than me, but I totally disagree that we were better against West Ham than Leicester. West Ham we were dominant but wasteful in the first half, poor until their goal where we kicked on, then unlucky in the end mixed with not urgent enough. I’m never going to get carried away because it’s United but we were much more dominant (without being as dominant possession based) against Leicester. Please could you elaborate why you think we were better against West Ham?
J.O.B.L.E.S.S & Useless Speculation is back.
Idle Mind used to be A Devil's Workshop
Now It is A Football TH-camr's channel. 👋🏼🤣
A Man Utd contract is an investment in your abilities to push us further, it feels like some players see it as a reward for what they’ve done and we haven’t seen them since.
Joe, stop being the man with "supposedly witty" questions! Now my take -
We may keep Shaw, paid based on appearances! And sell for 30 MIL
Malacia, keep for now until he "appears" and then evaluate.
Martinez being a front-footed defender, shouldn't be played as a fullback and/or wingback as this is physically more demanding, THE best defender post RIO-VIDIC
Linda, Iceman, goodbye
Harold, keep for now and wait until Yoro becomes a permanent member of the first 11
Jonathan Grant Evans MBE, our brother, keep
De Ligt, one of the main guys in our backline
Dalot-Balot (bal in Bengali means pubic hair); culpable for some of the mistakes in the pitch, keep for now
Mazraoui, alhamdulillah for him
Casemiro, keep for now and shouldn't be playing max 4 games in a month
Ugarte, needs to adapt and improve, his ceiling is certainly higher
Ericksen, keep for experience
Mason Mount, the False 7, the wrong Mason. I still do not know where he can and should play. He is not a YOUNG guy anymore. Go, but who takes him? Southhampton, perhaps?
Bruno retires from playing for us
Amad, I believe he can play as a wingback, is good on the wing, and just needs to improve in his output through goal contribution
Antony, we wasted enough
Garnacho, must start to play like a team player, I can not rely on him, for now, sell if someone comes with big money, 70~100 MIL
Rashford, must keep his focus on, stop being demoralized by criticism, and perform consistently, and in the meantime keep looking for a replacement
Hojlund, can become a 25+ goal a-season striker
Zirkzee, we wasted a little bit of money, lightweight, crumbles on pressure, has zero hold-up play, and moderate build-up play, I do not like him as a player playing for us
And can we bring the TRUE Mason, Mason Greenwood back?
I heard so many different pronunciations of Amorim, I don’t know what’s the right one anymore😂
I have the same last name. It’s 50/50 how it’s pronounced. I say it Amor-um. But I know other who say Amo-rim
It's tamarind
The Amo is silent.
I don’t quite get the opinions on Dalot. Fella was our player of the season last year - this year he’s been stuck at left back.. Is Mazraoui great? Yep. Did we really need him? Not as much as we need a LB.
An in form Rashford is still unfortunately our biggest proven goal threat. We really need someone else to bang in 20 plus goals this season.
I think people already writing Zirkzee off is mad. give him a run of games and let's see, also can't judge a player off first season (the premier league is a different animal). Let's remember It can take certain players time to adjust
"is there an upgrade to selling Shaw"
Well any AVAILABLE LB would be an upgrade
Yeah buddy! Lightweight! - Souness is a huge Ronnie Coleman fan!
Mount, Lindleloff, Anthony, Casemiro,Evan’s, all out. We need more from Rashford if not sell him, the rest we can work with. We need a more seasoned striker too, Hojlund won’t get us 20+ goals a season. Put Zirkzee on loan
Onana absolutely is a problem. He is fine most of the time when the shots in his arm span but his diving form is poor which kills his spring and that stunts his reach. Even this season where he has made less howlers a number of the goals he has conceded other keepers would have atleast got a glove on them and he gets no where near. He also has what I call jelly arms, the best keepers will have strong arms which allows them to divert the ball powerfully out of the danger zone, all too often we see Onana get no control on the save and it will limply drop back into the damager area. He just technically isn't good enough, even if you want a ball playing keeper he has to atleast be solid in the basic of a keeper and he just isn't. And its not even as if its a TAA situation where a player is just so effective in other areas of the game that you can forgive being weak at the core elements of that role, his distribution just hasn't been to the level where you can forgive his keeping issues, maybe if he was playing players in with amazing balls a few times a match you could but he isn't doing that
Let go:
Evans, Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, Malacia, Casemiro, Eriksen, Fernandes, Mount, Antony.
Sign:
A.Fernandez, Kerkez, G.Ignacio, Frimpong, Rigg, Nypam, Sesko.
Sigh if only FFP allowed us, would take multiple transfer windows
@@steve0ization it is actually doable when you consider the savings on wages alone. Four are out of contract (Evans, Maguire, Lindelof, Eriksen) already saving of £25m
The like of Joe are the reason why we end up with martial for that long
100%
How does that even make sense and how did you get anyone to agree with this, y’all are missed
@@dillondavis-tirado7181 watch the video carefully, read my point again and digest it then maybe you’ll understand why most people agree to the point
Sorry joe but your take on Amad is WILD. No hyperbole I think he can turn into a Salah level player for us over the next couple seasons.
lol insane opinion. Amad is very average
Haha, Joe's opinion is the wild one here?
Amad got the fans player of the month of September, then barely selected for October. Think the club hold him in high regard, ETH perhaps not so much
Casemiro has had really good performances this season. Keep him and try to reduce his wages with a new contract. He'll be a Rolls Royce until the age of 38.
Maguire and Evans keep 😂😂
I disagree with shaw. Because of his injuries we won’t get anything for him and will probably have to pay him to leave. Can play as a wingback and he is quality, keep as a back up to a new left back.
malacia, rashford, bruno, shaw, mount, maguire, lindelof, zirkzee, sancho....this people need to go....
Rayyan Ait Nouri would be an important signing if we want to play 3-4-3
if Mount went to Liverpool he'd be a star. If he'd gone to Arsenal or City he'd be a star.
Amad is a baller...Joe smith been smoking something mad for not rating him
Amorim can’t get rid of players who don’t want to go and Rashford won’t take a pay cut just to play football
I would sell rashford in the summer if he doesn't look like he's fitting amorims system and by kvarachelia. I think in one of the 10 positions kvaradonna will look unreal
I’d break down to: people who are just taking the pay cheque, troublemakers and people that down suit style. Shaw, Antony , malcia. Maguire, rashford, zerksi,mount.
Are you guys not concerned about the lack of wingers been watching United since 1985 and you talk about the United way for me it’s developing young players and counter attacking football with flamboyant wingers. For me a big part of the problems is trying to play out from the back and replicating tiki taka. The press conferences I’ve seen I like his personality but concerned about no wingers
But thats not what we have been doing at all.. we have never played tiki taka, and playing out from the back, how is that a problem?
We have been playing direct, high press, low defensive line.
What do our wingers get us rn? Garnacho 9-10 goals max per season, Rash same, Amad 2-3, Antony 0. Thats best case scenario.
Reality more like 3-5 from Rashy & Garnacho.
We dont have any elite wingers.
Ste when Joe said "he's on a 6 year deal" 🤦♂️🤣
Love Utd but I don’t want this club ruin another yes another good manger If I was him stay at sporting
The voice behind you criticizing Zirkzee sounds like the ghost of Brian Clough.
has howson lost weight....keep it up bru. getting in shape for the season🦾
Joe’s right to question Diallo. There is a lot of exaggeration with him. I hope he does well and Joe says the same, but tired of the delusion with our players.
I was thinking too good to be true that you guys got this far and no swearing from Howson then he did abd even had Jay doing it too.😮