JADE HUNTING: I GET SCAMMED IN HONG KONG
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if it looks like a jade,
sounds like a jade,
and people on the street tell you it's a jade,
it's probably plastic...
Lol!
😁
lol
Lol :P
😂😂😂😂😂😂 ... why would they sell the real deal on the street????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
vendor: "You have a lot of experience huh?"
him: "Yeah, I've bought a lot of bad jades before."
*both laugh*
3:34 "are you mafia"
amat zainy J LOL
Lmaooo
Technically, it is not a fake jade, but treated one. Sorry you got scammed, but if you didn't pay over US$20, then it is really not that bad a deal...after all, you got what you paid for. It is like buying luxury goods, don't expect to buy an authentic LV bag for just $20.
I bought an authentic lv bag at a thrift store for only 10$ here in ph
@@kenrogers1118 😀😁😂
@@kenrogers1118 That person didn't say it was impossible, just not to expect it. I also lucked out and got an authentic Louis Vuitton bag for $40 that ended up being a custom made Louis Vuitton Speedy from the 80's... I got scammed many times before that ever happened (and after) but that comes with trying to find good deals- especially online where you cannot inspect it in person. Many online scammers put a picture of a real bag but send a fake bag so no matter how good you are at telling real vs fake, it doesn't matter in that case. It's crazy how much time and effort people put into making fake items appear real these days smh.
Yee but why get a fake lv bag anyway? Lmfao
Treated jade... Wats that?
You didn't get scammed. You were hoping to get over on someone. You get what you pay for.
Legend say this man still searching for a $20 jade...
Hahahah
:-D
You straight up embarrassed yourself man, came in there with your flash light spouting facts on real vs fake jade and how you know the difference but still got scammed haha damn
That jade was missing the made in China sticker
Jade in China
Because they haven't sent the next batch from taiwan.
Actually, most of genuine jewelry is made in China, though the stone is imported.
Only a very few types of resins are UV reflective. Its very possible that the jade is coated in resin or has a resin clear coat on it.
Exactly. Now there is this NEW TECHNIQUE called COATING POWDER. When they carve & polish the jadeite they use colored powder to make the stone look colorful. Since this technique didn't destroy the inner texture of the stone so they will issue you a TYPE A cert ( means not treated ). But after you wear it for some time you start to realize the REAL color of the stone is different , not as you SAW & EXPECTED originally.
Absolutely!
You didn't get scammed, you just make a gamble and you fully knew the risk from the start
RavenTheShaman Livestream9999 , "Agreed". These pieces of sh!t defending scammers; selling something as something else is literally a scam. The Chinese have social credit scores, they will not speak honestly.
@RavenTheShaman Livestream9999 it's still jade.so they didn't lie...it's just a piece of jade with cracks/holes filled with resin
So email scams aren't scams anymore because we expect them?
@@ChemicalXII PRC always lies
Um... The word "scam" has a definition... You can't redefine it based on whether or not someone suspects there is risk involved. "Scam" implies some form of dishonesty or not full forthrightness on the part of the seller - which in these markets is totally true. So, regardless of whether or not the buyer suspects high risk, it is a "scam," period...
You cannot buy a REAL jade in this market, they just sell counterfeit jade... don't be serious to check.... and, local people know it!
There's no such thing as treasure hunting when you talk about jadeite industry . Chinese love jadeite so much & dealers know how much they are going to ask if it'a real stuff. On a real natural jadeite jewel , they will only give you a high price for you to bargain. 50 HKD in HK can't even buy you a lunch box, not to mention a REAL JADEITE stuff. Not to mention , bangle is a very expensive category in jadeite jewel industry because it requires a big piece of stone to make a bangle & the stone has to be without cracks or the bangle would just break . Stones are very very expensive now. 50 HKD is not even enough for the service fee to carve the bangle from the stone.
Do you recommend a particular place to get a bangle that isn't an extortionate price? Also is white or lavender cheaper than green? I live in HK and would like a jade bangle.
So torch with UV isn't accurate after all.
I was already going to amazon it. But nay
Depends on your parameters. If it glows it is 100% chance of being fake but not necessarily 100% chance of being real if it doesn't glow. So I'd say from one standpoint it is 100% accurate but upon expanding the testing parameters it becomes naturally less accurate. Still seems like a cheap, useful tool just not something that you can always depend on.
Unheard Unseen how to wear a tight jade bracket
not necessarily. It did help weed out some of the more obvious pieces after all. Perhaps the one he picked couldn't have been easily spotted due to less resin. I noticed that some glow way brighter than others.
Eeeee2wwww
You didn't get scammed. You just lost the game. You are trying to buy real jade for cheap, you lost. If you actually paid what a real jade would have cost, then I'll say you got scammed. I don't think that place is where you buy high quality jade.
Thank you. Hk os full of legit jewler chains like chow tai fook or chow sang sang but hes shocked that three dollar jade is fake. Even for a fake its not a bad price.
Agree
@Weedus So you think it's a good idea to help contribute to the slaughter of animals and indeed the slaughter of endangered animals? People should STOP buying taxidermy and hunting trophies and the market for this cruel sport would die out, as it should!
Weedus No, I think it should become an unacceptable commodity to deal in, just like Ivory and blood diamonds. Making it a desirable commodity just means more animals will be slaughtered to meet the demand.
@@elvis459 Isn't taxidermy performed mostly on already deceased animals though? From what I know and have seen, most people that perform taxidermy use animals they've found already dead like roadkill or pets they've previously owned that have passed away. I've never seen anyone actually go out of their way to get their hands on either live animals or rare dead animals that have been killed for that purpose.
I'm so happy I got this video recommended! Looks really interesting and I will definitely check other videos on your channel. Thanks for the video and tips! :)
That's how you get scammed every time. You try to take advantage of someone who is smarter than you.
You use the wrong word. Not "smarter", but "more cunning".
Take advantage? Attempting to buy something "as advertised" is taking advantage?
Even if lightly treated it is a beautiful piece. I am quite picky about the gemstones I purchase, especially Jade. However, depending on what was paid for that piece I would have been happy.
That UV is genious👍😅 Resin Detected😂😂😂 Awesome😂😝
A friend of ours would but jade statues in China , expensive but with your 8 to 10 inch tall jade statue it would also have a 4x4x3 inch base . So he cuts off the bases to sell to jewelry stores for jewelry and still has the statue . The stores buy for more than 2 times he paid for the whole statue price in China. He also re-sells Rubies from India. He usually makes enough to pay for two more trips to China and India....So if you know your stones and markets there is a way to have fun and make money.
jeff putman I hope it’s not old statues he is cutting apart :/
3:33 are you mafia?
everyone with a UV-Torch is expected to be from the mafia xD
Never buy jade in a tourist area. Any place that sells a lot of souvenirs will not have anything of real value. Also, some type B jadeite are very convincing and would take years for the stone to discolor. Even if that piece that you bought turned out to be type A jadeite, it would still be of lower quality so it wasn't a good buy. That method using the UV light is clever and I will try that method when I buy jadeite next time.
Going to but me a uv light too
Doesn't work for Type B+C. Even sound test is useless. Best is send to gemologist for certification.
You don’t need UV light. If the jade is cold to the touch and then warms up, it’s real. If it is translucent when put up to the light, it’s real. My jade bangle was bought in Nanjing, imported from Hong Kong, originated from Myanmar, and costs 1000USD which is the bargained price. This guy is just an idiot. Seriously laughable.
@@brittany6348 : Abandon all layman's tests! Only trust laboratory certificate! Type B and C jade are still real jade but chemical treated.
@@mtv565 personally I'm afraid to trust a gemologist if they are not right in front of me because you never know if they're going to switch something on you
In Hong kong you can not never find reasonable price for jade, go to Burma
Wouldn’t real jade be locked in a glass case instead of just laying out in the open where anybody could grab it?
There's loads of fake stuff in China, how else do you think people feed their families
Hi Molly, there is fake jade also locked up in glass casing, this is the problem!
And to be honest, crime is very minimal in China. Very safe there.
@@amberknopp1901 Look at the punishment there for those unlucky enough to get caught committing crime... 😬 I'll add an article about their very harsh punishment... like capitol punishment (aka being killed) for many crimes including drugs.
researchgate (dot) net/publication/258124797_Moral_Panics_Crime_Rates_and_Harsh_Punishment_in_China
Republican 4U2NV Not in Hong Kong
oye que tipo de jade es el amarillo y de donde proviene o en que lugar o estado natural resulta bueno es una duda...]
ahhh the sound of clinking stones... like nails on a chalk board lol im too protective of my stones lol
Very interesting about all the facts when looking for Jade. Thank you for another great video! Safe travels my friend! :)
Well actually there is not really a second hand market. Those stores know they are selling fake jade, so there are no way u could find a real one.😂
*im from Hong Kong
can recomend me some place where i can buy pure crystal ?
I was just going to say this, these people know they are not selling real untreated jade... they've been in this market for a long time.
Calvin where do you recommend I get a jade bangle from please? I'm interested in paler green, lavender or even white. I'm not looking to spend a ridiculous amount of money but want a real piece! I live in HK.
@@komatsusakura There is a modern jade store in Hong Kong that sell real jade in affordable price. You can check ‘thejadeinstyle’ in Instagram.
:-D
Well... If the Jade is only $50 HKD, of cuz not gonna be real. And if you want the real Jade and spend that much money for it, u need to go to the jewelry store with the big brand with trust and certified Jade. Also, this place is tourist place, don't buy anything in tourist place it's not gonna be something good.
@Donald Kasper yes , theres a local rock shop and they sell fake Jade for 60$ each
i am surprised the vendor didn't chase you away for calling out "fakes".
Real jade feels cold to the touch, with a substantial weight, shine the UV light behind the stone to check for translucency, not the front part of jade. But the thing that will give it away is the feeling of cold to the touch.
03:30
- Italia?
- Yeah Italia.
- Are you a MAFIA?
- No
Those sellers are experts and professionals. They provided you with the illusion of having a chance of finding treasures in a junk bucket , and you fell for it. Do you really think that they would have left any real valuable jade pieces in there just for you find ?
Love your videos on all things jade related. Keep up the great work!!!
Thanks Ben! Regards!
just goes to show us how very tough it is to analyze and recognize a given piece of rock as precious jade ~
Lesson learned. Don’t buy Jadite on the streets of HK.
even in the shop if you do not know the seller well
"are you a mafia??" LOL @3:33
I don’t think it is completely worthless. You thought it was beautiful. It is still beautiful. Make it into a pendant and enjoy it. Nobody will know it was treated with resin unless they have it tested.
Exactly. It was a beautiful mistake.
"Yeah, I'm italian"
"You mafia?"
PFFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHA geezus, subtle, mister, very subtle.
Then again, those stalls, you haggle, going there you knowingly will be buying fake stuff, it's kind of a common sense.
If you want the real deal, you'd walk into some established stores with proper security system or those top floors of malls which are mostly reserved for expensive tailored suits and all kinds of expensive stuff. Stall items are after all just stall items, in every country you got to take them with a big grain of salt.
If you spot one fake, for sure the others are fake as well. No reputable seller would accept fake product to sell to their customer.
The point of the video wasn't buying expensive jade from a reputable seller, but trying to fish a real one out of thit pile of gunk...
This was at a second-hand market though, and they were selling them for what I assume is the price for resin-stabilized jade. So it's not impossible that they unknowingly have some high quality stuff there.
Simon Herteby They can have non-resin jade, but the quality is still poor and equal to the resin ones. The seller, who has high experience in jade trading, of course he will not miss a 5000$ piece of high quality real jade when he bring his chunk home everyday.
prdprdprdprdprdel Hong Kong is the place where you can buy a $20.000 Rolex in a decent looking store. But you have to know where to buy. You can not go for a pile of fake watches with the hope to find an authentic one.
Using the Light test, very informative, thanks for posting.
When the scammer gets scammed..love it
wow, even the UV pen wasn’t so much of a good detector. like others have mentioned though, it’s not such a bad thing per se, treated jade vs completely synthetic material.
I love Jade❤☺
The part you got scammed the worst was paying HKD80 to get it tested.
that testing lab is run by elizabeth theron holmes
cool ! lucky fortune and FengShui healing StoneJade
Hi thank you for sharing this!.. Bonnie
By any chance can you tell me where I can buy one of that jade testing lighting? Thank you
Very insightful!✨
what is the that u hold to test that jade??I'm interested on it coz I love jade but don't know to differentiate the fake and ori. .please help me
Thank you what a great video did you bring the Jade back to the same person that you bought it off of just to see what he will say? What other specimens would you suggest that I try to collect? you know nice ones
Thanks brother 👍 I like your information vary good easy to learn brother love your video thanks
It seems that lamp method is not that reliable in spotting fake jade.
Actually if you think about it and helped him a lot... he actually only lost a few dollars... what maybe $3
Your statement is wrong. A UV lamp is very reliable in spotting fake jade, it's not reliable in spotting authentic jade ;-)
Jade is a beautiful stone that can be many different colors including green, orange, or white. Most of us will have seen the Jade that is green in color. Jade however is a very popular and expensive stone and this has given rise to many fakes, imitations or treated Jades being seen in the market place. Ancient records show that the Chinese started to dye jade to improve the color in 13th century. If you are about to go shopping for jade or have an old piece of jade, here is an article that will help you tell if you have found the real thing.
I think it was an old National Geographic article I read that said very little genuine jade was being produced in Chinese factories.
The stone was serpentine.
Only in the corner of one factory were a few real artisans producing genuine jade products.
I love New Zealand jade but would like to see more creative exploration of its possibilities free of burdens of tradition.
Australia has black jade.
I got caught with some fake Canadian jade beads years ago and they are gently peeling away from the glass.
I think chrysoprase is greatly underestimated and I prefer the refreshing translucent beauty of these beads when not colour altered to jade.
Chrysoprase is quite tough and resilient and the best of it is at least as classy as jadeite in my view.
I have a chrysoprase tennis bracelet which was described as natural untreated green chrysoprase and it is beautiful. I think it was around $120-$130 at most. I am a jade lover, but I can appreciate other beautiful stones, especially mint green ones. As long as I know what they are. 3 chalcedony rings. One was described as dyed but I really like it anyway-large and translucent. Durable. It is about knowing if something is treated & I can make the choice.
How do they make it look glossy? Would polyurethane count as resin?
Thank you so much for your video, so helpful!
I would rather have resin than dye. Depending on the resin used hopefully high vibe resin like frankincense and myrrh. $150 for Bangle sound cheap as I brought mine about $600 and it have angel sound it worth it. Dye light up with UV light so he smart to do so as dye weaken the jadeite and also maybe toxic when it leak out. In some states selling it in the Markets in the USA you have to label that these items may cause cancer and then lot of people would make decision not to buy them.
Yes ! He too greedy .everyone also need make some money for living and for food!.
Hi can you please let me know what is the jade store call towards the end of the video... Thanks
2:51 that bangle is a real jade one, probably 200K USD worth. You missed it.
because your UV light torch is ran out of battery，haha。
No, that UV torch was made in China too.
@@riverpinewood6560 😂😂😂
Put it in the oven, I'm curious about how much would melt off.
Epoxy resin by default does not react to (means block) UV light. There are resin type that do (those with UV blocker, used widely in PCB making). So your UV torch is good to find fake jade, but not accurate enough to find real jade, as you already know by now.
Thanks for posting this video, I have a Jade statue, I’ve looking for a way to test it, to see if it’s real. Thank you again.
" I aM LoOkInG FoR JÆDE "
Nice info.. thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Sorry you got scammed. Thanks for the close up shots, really enjoy seeing different things at the market. LOL at the end clip of the people fighting at the fruit market. The women said the "F-word" at the end. I wish we could see why they got into a fight LOL.
Where do you buy that gadget you're testing with? I love jade! Thank you..
Hi, great video.
Can you tell me, please, how much in US$ was testing+certificate in the lab???
testing at the gem lab in manhattan is $150
50~100 USD in a local gem lab with good reputation in HK & Taiwan. There are lots of gem labs issuing "PRINTING CERTS "as long as you pay (like 15 USD per cert ). You have to avoid those fake gem labs ,especially in China . They issue certs on ALL items as long as you pay.
So expect to buy a REAL UNTREATED bangle with a price even lower than the certificate fee is an unreasonable expectation.
@@jessicasmith-xm6xk Thank you, do you know (maybe), how much for testing stones in Myanmar, Hong Kong, or generally in Asia?
Don't have to be exact, just average. Its about to make sure you buying right stone, not synthetic or heat treated one somewhere on the local market..
Thanks.
hi buddy. please share the address and name of where you went to get the jade certified, Thanks
Well damn! Sorry you got scammed. But great video.
Nice video. I have learnt a lot today
So informative. Thanku
Lol are you the mafia lol
I think for me the fun was in the hunt , nothing wrong with looking for a good treasure find keep searching wherever you do hope you find a nice piece ! ☺️
Jade seller says "OoOooh". Jade seller is thinking "yes I know idiot it's all fake"
Which chinese jewellery brands or stores would you recommend for buying jade?
Real jade will always feel cold to the touch
Where is that jade verification center? How much for identifying a piece? Thx
Lesson: Anyone selling jade on the street is not selling jade on the street.
More gemstone footage please, maybe cutting process or polishing. Enjoy watching your journey.
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Love the way the scam artists get all 'incredurous' when you show them the fakes. Like they didn't know.
You cannot find high quality jade with little money. Do you think you can fool those merchants? In your dreams!
Does the UV light only work on jade or all gems?
Where is the lab in HongKong? Thx for your excellent video!
Hi where to buy that light which you are using for testing ?? Thanks
it's a 365-UV pen light , I hope that you can make a good use of it!
@@Goldendives thanks
I would love to watch videos of you just buying jade and having them tested
Have you ever found a piece of "real jade" at a market like that and for cheap? I wouldn't expect so, especially when looking among identical pieces. I'd accept it, enjoy it for what it is and make a nice necklace with the pendant. If looking for a pure stone, I'd look elsewhere and expect to pay more.
Merrie E loo
Dude ...that last one that you had checked out by the gemmologist sounds like glass. But very interesting how you used infrared.
So what was his Jade made of besides resin? Cause normally if I even tap something on my teeth, I can tell if it's plastic, stone, metal, glass, or a gemstone. But if it's a mix, I wonder if I wouldn't be able to tell.
It was treated but it’s still jade
I think it’s beautiful
I swear every one of these scam artists carry the same calculator
Where can I get a uv torch like the one you use?
ebay
thanks for sharing
Where can I buy that light thing your using
If you buy legit gemstone I have from the bottom of the sea in the sunken japanese ship during world war 2
My favorite part is when he asks if you are mafia
He is being misleading. Untreated jadeite and nephrite are hugely expensive. You won't find it on the street. He did not purchase fake jade he purchased treated. Almost all gem material that the average person can afford is treated in some way. A jade bangle of high quality and color, untreated, will cost upwards of 100,000 dollars.