SONDORS METACYCLE HONEST REVIEW AND IMPRESSIONS- Rethink EVERYTHING you know about it!!
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I got the chance of riding and giving my impressions on the Sondors Metacycle, thanks to an anonymous owner, who was so gracious to lend me his time, and his pretty cool moded Meta. What do you think about it, pretty interesting mods he’s done so far.
Lock and unlock on Sondors Metacycle (1:48)
Alarm and security system on Sondors Metacycle (2:59)
Battery removal /charging on Sondors Metacycle (4:03)
Bonus: Handling and Weight (5:29)
0-60 Speed Test on Sondors Metacycle (6:07)
Peak Power / Sustained Speed on Sondors Metacycle (9:03)
Metacycle Sport mode Behavior (9:39)
Regen braking on Sondors Metacycle? (10:27)
Ride comfort / suspension (11:39)
What does the Sondors Metacycle sound like? (13:15)
Phone fit in wireless charging compartment (14:11)
Honest Opinion (15:12)
If you’re looking for sport bike specs, torque, top speed, handling, seat positioning, positioning, shocks, this is not it.
If however you’re simply wanting to take a fun cruise by the shore, quick errands or a decent commute to work and back, this is plenty power, range, and cool factor to cover either of those scenarios.
You’re not carrying this on the highway and attempting to overtake other vehicles. While the Metacycle is highway-legal, you don’t want to get anyone aggro, riding on this because you simply will not be able to outpace tailgaters.
Though absolutely No bike is ever really safe, the Metacycle, being an EV with relatively no audible noise to alert drivers of your presence on a busy highway, you want to take extra safety precautions, and render yourself extra visible through your choice of gear.
But at the same time, again, being an EV, you get to hear things you never could before - like the sound of a car coming from behind, and to be more spatially aware, since it’s a silent ride.
The seating is by far my biggest complaint on the Metacycle. And the suspension, not far behind, is my next one. I’m on the taller and weightier end of the spectrum, at 6 foot 3 and just over 250 pounds, big boned and can’t do much about it, and riding the Metacycle, if I have to be honest, is definitely not the most comfortable of rides. It’ll make you want to take breaks often to avoid a bad back. The larger you are, the thinner it seems for you as a rider, and there simply isn’t enough seat real estate to comfortably... I’m just gonna say it as it is… rest those royal cheeks on.
Both I and the owner, who’s a faithful rider since early 90s, agree that from our perspective and experience, The Metacycle’s tuning is just not the best. Some things need a bit more travel, others need some tightening, or some lubrication. But as a package, it’s definitely appealing.
Is the Metacycle worth the price tag of $5000 dollars ($5700 dollars to be exact with the not so white glove delivery fee) it was preordered for? YEA! Is it worth it at the new, upped price of $6500 dollars (or around $7000 - $7200 dollars with the delivery fee?) YEA!! You get a lot more thrill from the Sondors Metacycle than that eBike the same price in your neighbor’s garage parked beside his Porsche Taycan.
This might sound off to some, but follow me, I promise it’ll makes sense. So… The Sondors Metacycle is by far one of the best looking, AND performing electric SCOOTERS today. Yes, because of its looks, most people have the Metacycle in the wrong category when it comes to what it’s supposed to replace in your collection, and where it was meant to fit in the market. The Sondors may have done a poor marketing job making it seem like it’s the future of motorcycles - it’s a scooter, with a really futuristic, cool motorcycle frame on it.
All in all, after riding this Metacycle, I can absolutely tell you that it is well worth the wait, and that if you preordered yours, without any false expectations, and forfeiting the obviously overestimated claims from Sondors, you will be very very satisfied with your purchase.
The bike is just a head turner, and a conversation starter. I mean, in the short 3 hours I had with it, I must have sold a handful of onlookers to Sondors for free, just answering their questions.
Look out for my next review video of the Metacycle head to head with the Ryvid Anthem, and until next time, this has been Trevor with MetaReady, signing out.
Nice work. I missed it. Did you mention range of battery?
That 0-60 time is a security feature. If someone takes off on it, you can catch them on foot. ;-)
Mr brown is always looking on the brightside!
Facts.
@@roblime8438 - it’s a fact..& it’s false advertising..Sondors told me 6 seconds..what’s the point in an electric bike that takes 15 seconds to reach 60...a Chinese ebike gets there faster 🤷♂️
@@woodstockxx Yeah I have an ONYX RCR. This is an Ebike right - not a motorcycle. Now it's top speed is closer to 50 and I've never timed it, but way under 10 seconds. I was scared that the low price would cost something and it looks like it certainly has.
@@roblime8438 - I’m gutted mate..ordered it 2 years ago & still waiting. They’ve changed the sleek rectangular wings to shitty, cheap Chinese ones. the battery in the promo video is removable but in reality it’s not, the naked silver was advertised everywhere but isn’t available at all, the supermassive was shown with black wheels & looked mean but I’d being shipped with silver, which completely destroys the look..even the style of wheel has been changed to what I presume is a cheaper one, the dash has two buttons on the underside that serve no purpose at all, 0-60 is shockingly shite, Sondors still can’t give me any idea whatsoever with regard to U.K. shipping fees or dates .. NOT GOOD .. I’m seriously considering cancelling, unless somebody finds a way to hack the software & get me to 60 in 6 .. I’m considering the Horwin CR6 or might even carry on saving for the Tarform Luna..it’s a lot of money at 15 grand but it’s also a lot of bike & completely blows the metacycle away in every department
Great review! Thorough and with perspective. It's a budget electric two wheeler. It'll help pave the way for more, better iterations. I'd say it's a new segment of bike/scooter all together.
Well said!
Nice review, I ordered the SuperMassive. Patiently waiting. Hands down, some of the hottest technology hitting the streets! I’ll be charging mine with solar power.
Me, as well. I designed and built the battery for my rig specifically to be able to fully charge my Metacycle from solar.
Good initiative
Good luck, been waiting for two years and now waiting for my refund. This thing is crap and I can’t wait to see it falling apart once people put real miles on it
@@xavi5898 Two words: "Buh bye."
@@xavi5898 Seriously, though, firstly you can't have been waiting "two years". Secondly, to say that something's "crap" without even so much as having laid eyes on the genuine article, let alone ridden it, is just so much whining and bitching.
Apparently, Metacycle wasn't "crap", as you put it, when you reserved one, then (presumably) converted that reservation to an actual order. Then there's that "I can’t wait to see it falling apart once people put real miles on it" sociopathic comment. I'll just let that one twist out there all on its lonesome.
Thanks for the video! It answered all my questions! Great job! be safe.
Glad it helped!
Great review. You're correct. This is a motorcycle made to fit above the GROM and the below your standard 600 sport. For those of us that are shorter and lighter, the Metacycle is probably the perfect ride. For anyone expecting the specs Sondors advertised, you're going to want a refund. The electric motor specs were never going to deliver the kind of performance advertised at 72 volts on anything other than an electrified bicycle
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This bike is exactly my original 1974 Kawasaki G3SS which was 90cc and produced 11 horse or 7.7 kW. It could hit 82 mph with two people on board. Sondors missed the boat and lied about what his bike was.
@@LiveWire_Guy, about the same as I'm riding now, an Aprilia Scarabeo 200, which happens to be just about the perfect commuter for my needs. The Metacycle would be a significant step down, which is why I cancelled.
Metacycle is below 300cc bikes. 600cc aren’t even in the same stratosphere.
Doesn’t anybody see how useless the shock spring is? It’s not progressively wound, but, is a two stage winding. And the top part is already filly compressed even without a rider but is strikingly visible in your video. This wastes the spring and effectively reduces the suspension stoke in half. Why would they do this? A proper spring would cost the same.
Myself being a heavy guy. I think as soon as I get my motorcycle I'm going to be contacting Race Tech about a custom shock and or fork set for the bike. That is if I decide to keep it after riding it for a bit.
I am so glad i got a refund this review is spot on. Save your money buy a real bike with comfort and no lies
The reviews are good. But I can't afford to buy it. If I give it as a gift, it will be enough.
Are you originally from the UK?
Yes I am. Accent pretty mixed since French is my primary language at that.
@@TrevorAgli I can hear every now and then some solid London accent haha, you just have been there a LONG time though
lol yes was born there and returned for year 11 and 12, but ultimately lived in the French system the longest
With so many delays and issues, I would recommend DON'T BUY yet. Sondors need to show strength in delivering these motorcycles. They are taking people's money and not committing to delivery dates. This is a VERY HIGH RISK purchase. Delivering 1 or 2 a week is just a marketing stunt!
What shipment cycle are you in?
@@xavierjeannis I am in round 2. I believe I am an early entry in round 2. I missed round 1 by a month. That's the other thing anything now is considered round 2, nobody knows how many!
I'm wondering if the $6500 is including shipping. The post below is from the Sonders site.
"upped price of $6500 dollars (or around $7000 - $7200 dollars with the delivery fee?)"
$6,500
Est. Delivery Q4 2022 - Q1 2023
By placing this order, I agree to the Metacycle Order Agreement and Privacy Policy.
Price includes delivery fee.
I was wondering about real world range also. A test at highway speed and at city driving would be a welcome edition for a second video. I'm sure the Sonders estimates are way off just like the 0-60. One thing though, on a light low power electric "motor cycle" Driver weight is going to make a huge impact as you have seen. I'm 195 so i'd be about in between you two as far as 0-60 goes. Nothing like getting outran by a Sur ron :) Hopefully someone will come out with some good aftermarket upgrades like a better seat and a brake upgrade kit. Other videos I have watched they also said the brakes left much to be desired.
Great review!
I like the design as a one man transportation.
Agreed!
It was better when it was vaporware.
Indeed, it was awesome.
I know there's gonna be at least ONE person out there who's come here to talk about how a whatever is cheaper and gets 100+ mpg..
But you buy this and a cheap ass solar set up (a couple of 300w panels..so probably a few hundred bones) and you're done paying for fuel for most days in your life 🤷 andddd you'll not be doing that whole, burning of things to make me go, thang too👌And THAT part is genuinely priceless.
I agree
electric motors will have 100% torque at 0 mph, but at 60 it has maybe 5 % torque. so at take off it goes fast, but at higher speeds it will take time to get to top speed.
Well said
I guess I am still glad I got a refund when they were clearly not close to delivering in Q3 2021. The bike wasn't even finished being designed then. This is a good review except no mention of the range which would be very good to know with different weight riders and at different speeds. My round trip commute is 46 miles, but most of it is at 55mph with one freeway section of 65 which I could avoid if necessary. No regen and non removable battery makes it a non starter especially since it apparently can't use any public chargers if the only charger is the weighty brick you would need to carry. There is starting to be a good deal of competition in the sub $10k electric motors and some of them with comfortable seats and removable batteries are going to be top of list. Maybe Sondors will make different versions like he has with the bicycles. I have been happy with my bicycle and hoped they would do a great job with this. I am not really concerned with 0-60 times, just if it can do 60 and get me to and from work and I have doubts that there is enough range for a heavier person at 55mph
Yea, I respect your decision of not buying after all., seeing as this bike is not for everyone.
As far as range, at the rate at which I was riding (combined sub 40mph and over 60mph) it would fall short of the promised 80miles, and be more like half of that for my weight.
If you weight between 150 and 180, you could see more than 40 miles on a charge.
Why do I get a Christopher Walken vibe on the narration?
Anti-sieze can be applied to the threads in the frame which should protect them somewhat during repeated use. But not indefinitely. Drilling & installing helicoils may work, at least for a while.
Thank you Trevor, your observations are on point, specific, & helpful. Great job.
Great review! I think I will wait for the S72 C1X. You didn't mention range, or did I miss it. I think the first thing I would change out is the seat! It looks like it would go right up your butt crack! With Trevor on it there definitely wasn't enough real estate. The main thing for comfort on a motorcycle seat is not so much how thick the padding is, but how wide the seat is and if it is wide enough to support your butt. How long does the bike maintain 70mph, and then what does it shut down to?
Thanks for an honest review.
Always!
Trevor, thank you so much for your review. Especially appreciate the speed test comparison between riders. A very well organized presentation overall and very helpful for the community at this point in time. Bravo!
Thanks for your review. Looks like I made the right decision getting a refund. It's a shame they didn't deliver on what they promised us
Because... "fashion accessory" bikes are always sure to be superior at being bikes. LOL 🤣
And that hub motor has to be ~50 pounds (of un-sprung weight, no less). What a waste of time, money, engineering resources. Eesh.
This should be renamed the "Sondors Marketing Ripoff Cycle."
Sondors needs to stick to pedal bicycles.
Dude you've just gotten your newest follower!!! Lovelovelove the total honesty an knowledge!!!
Thank you...
I am 170+-miles into the eworld on my FucareGemini . . . Would love to see a review on it, personally I freak'n LOVE it:)
This crap company had me waiting over a year, I was fully paid. Just waiting....I finally cancelled and got a full refund after finding out new orders were getting a quicker delivery estimate then me. I guess they didn't want my business because I was locked in at $5000 . Lose me and sell that same bike for $6500. GFY
So glad i got my refund...promised things that they did not deliver...going to purchase a ONYX RCR which has more torque
Well, it would be nice if I had a chance to review my Metacycle! Since it has been paid for since LAST OCTOBER! But I guess I’ll just have to take what revues I can get.
Great video and your conclusion was spot on with why I purchased. I was looking at high end e-bikes, which were close in price to the Metacycle, so I figured why not go for something more versatile that offers faster speeds and the ability to register and take on the road. I agree that Sondors wasn't honest about a lot of things but for $5k I feel like still a decent deal. No to mention, I'm sure there will be some significant mods done once more bikes are in circulation which will vastly increase what the bike is capable of. Just my opinion.
I wanted the rcr. When I came upon the company they had already increased the price after the Kickstarter phase. They wouldn't flex on price and then I saw the Meta going for $1k more. I'm still in line for phase 2. The mods thing is very interesting, and why didn't they add a second motor to the front hub?
I did the opposite..I wanted to ride wherever I wanted. In the forest on trails, sidewalks, streets and ended up with a m620 motor street legal bike. It reaches about 34mph extremely fast (never timed it), but I didn’t really get it for speed
And so if I wanted one I'd need to get on the phase 2 list an ultimately pay the $7,ooo-$7,3oo+-? When is PII expected delivery?
I feel like it needs 1 or 2 generations of designing to really come into its own. There are just too many ice motorcycles and scooters that accomplish the same thing and not enough to set this apart unless you really want something out of the box, different. At least its not Vaporware even though.
Is the seat out of alignment or is it the camera angle. Looks like your left butt cheek is hanging off the left side of the seat, less cheek on the right. I put my $500 down on one, but am starting to wonder if I will actually get it at any time soon.
Thank you I am so glad I decided not to buy it
Glad I could help with your decision. It is a great scooter, but it is not for everyone.
Looks like another Sondors reviewer in the ranks! Welcome!
Cheers mate
The fact that you can't see the display in broad daylight is a massive deal breaker, and if I'm being quite honest, quite dangerous.
That’s a good pointer, it seems to be visible IRL, just not enough when recorded
Thanks for clearing up that the Right Brake Lever IS the Front Brake!
As far as questions. How does the motorcycle handle when cornering? Does it drop into corners quickly or slowly? Also in relation to the cornering. How is the peg clearance when leaned over? Any clearance issues and scraping of pegs? Please measure the actual dimensions of the cell phone box so we know how much room we have to play around with to put a phone with a case inside. Also did you find out if the USB port inside the compartment supports USB 2 or 3 levels of charging output?
EDIT: The frame bag looks awesome! But how are the magnets in the bag going to stick to an aluminum frame? Aluminum is not magnetic.
The "frame bag" is still very much a work in progress. Since their revelation that the aluminum frame of the Metacycle is not magnetic, the frame bag makers have switched to Velcro fasteners. Also the handle is being moved to a better location. The production model may look very different from the prototype. I hope they keep us updated with photos. Is it waterproof?
Clearance for the pegs is good for the average lean on the bike for turns.
The removal (by the owner) of the stock DOT approved brake light seems, less than ideal. I'm undecided on the aftermarket turn signals, as I don't believe I saw them activated even once. I will watch more closely on my next viewing. Visibility is key as stated in the video. I would prefer more brake lights not less. Perhaps a sleeker aftermarket DOT replacement brake light could be found.Thicker fluid in the brakes to eliminate brake noise? More likely some shims or anti-squeal compound would do the trick if a proper cleaning and bedding-in of the brakes does not. Overall I'm very pleased with this video review and am looking forward to your next.
Confirmed the aftermarket turn signals do work, perhaps not captured in the shots.
The added brake lights definitely are liked by some and not others. I personally would remove it for aesthetics, but keep for safety's sake. Safer is better.
Great input there mate!
Thanks for the review. Coming from a Honda Ruckus makes me think I'll enjoy the bike a lot more than those that wanted something to compete with gas motorcycles in the same price range. Also it was great to see the comparative stats with rider size.
Glad it helped!
That’s a slow ass bike for $6500! See the problem with trying to make a bike that’s a hybrid between bicycle and motorcycle is that most people would rather pay that kind of money for a motorcycle rather that an amped up ebike.
Yea. This won't be for everyone.
They should have just put pedals on it and sold it as a high powered ebike/moped like onyx RCR instead of an extremely low powered motorcycle. I would have liked one if that was the case but to use it as a motorcycle… seems like kind of a joke
I think they poorly tested the bike vis-a-vis a large chunk of their target audience.
Injection moulding an aluminum frame? You are talking about polymers not metals. You started talking about casting which is accurate as is forging another process for manufacturing a metal frame, but not injection moulding which doesnt apply to large metal pieces like frames
Hey mate, I didn’t make it obvious but I was comparing it to the next bike I was going to compare it to, which is the Ryvid Anthem.
The Anthem has injections molded plastic parts.
So do you own a Meta? Good Vid. I ordered one last week.
Thank you! Yes I actually do! and may own an Anthem next! Hold out of you ordered yours; it is a good deal. Also, make sure to contact Sondors about the super deal they had earlier which can get you on a metacycle for $4000 only.
@@TrevorAgli I got the deal.
There's a PDF manual available in the owners portal. I'm going to change those awful looking footpegs on mine as well as instal the same fly screen. Plus a LOUD horn.
I feel ya on the loud horn
Excellent video review, Trevor. I hope Sondors succeeds with the Metacycle and goes on to produce 2nd and 3rd generations of the motorcycle that actually meet the original performance goals. Sondors could have mitigated the current grief they are dealing with if they had just employed a competent PR person to inform their customers, in a timely manner, of necessary design changes and unforeseen production delays.
My understanding is that PR comes from Storm Sondors. That's the problem. We see what and only what he wants us to see, we learn (before now) only what he wants to show us. The flip side to SONDORSX's plus side is its negative side (and not a small one either): Storm Sondors himself. IMO, he will single handedly destroy his own company's good will.
This bike can easily take all features and extra weight and get bigger, I didn’t know about the security features till this video. They’re right where they should be if you think the giga press will work
Not what Sondors promised when taking $5000- deposits from customers. Sondors has a reputation of lying about it's products
No not at all... Wish they did though. They're starting to ship out the metas more frequently. And owners who took delivery seem to like it for what it is now that they know what to expect through videos like this
Has anyone done a real range test on the sondors meta cycle yet? How's far can you go on a single charge
It's like they are an NDA for range! I guess it's not comfortable enough to do a range test
i wanna see that anthem vid :)
all in all ...if i had the cheddar right now , and it was easily available ....i'd still buy the saunders ....im looking for exactly this , a commuter bike for work ...would fill this niche really well.. any who , lets just wait tile we see the rivid ...or the super73 cycle coming out next year ..
Will release a video this week for sure, whether a shorter one or the full review.
Since 0-60 is out the window, and this isn't really highway suitable after all... what's the 0-40 like?
Does it get up to speed for major neighborhood roads alright? Typically 40-50 mph around me.
for that speed im thinking about getting one from fly-ebike, imported chinese generic motorcycles but a bit cheaper then metacycle
You put this together really well
Glad it isn’t phantomware but also glad I didn’t order this hype.
So many broken promises by Sondors!
I agree. Hit or miss with the Meta for people.
Some are actually happy with it now that they know what to expect. Sondors should have communicated better period.
Thanks for your opinions! I see this as a lightweight e-commuter capable of using the Interstates for short distances. I rode a banana seat that width all day as a child, butt most 'adults'' can't handle it. Saddle on my 740 lb Honda is made for adult butts, LOL. Most 'e-motorcycles' I've seen are massive in comparison as are their price tags! The Metacycle @ $6500 is pretty cool for what it is...
I absolutely agree lol. Well said mate
@@TrevorAgli Thanks MetaMan... I hear so many complaints, they get old. Without some kind of Technological breakthrough, e-bikes/e-motorcycles will never replace their gas powered counterparts. But, the way I see it, the Metacycle offers the most for the money! The bargains out there are few and far between.
Is it possible to use a CVT drive on a mid-drive ebike? Chains are loud and they break. Transmissions are mechanical, heavy and expensive. CVT's are lightweight, cheap, quiet and seem like the perfect solution...?
How much was registration fees for this bike ?
that slow zero to 60 is a deal breaker for me
I agree.
I want my $100 deposit back!
Thanks for the review. I have to say I am incredibly disappointed. Maybe not enough to ask for a refund, but seriously disappointed. The acceleration time might have been decent with a bigger person if the bike had made the original claimed weight. This is where it all went sideways. Curious to see what the real world range comes out to be.
This really is more of a scooter than anything at these performance levels. By the looks of it I think my little CSC City Slicker will take it to 45 mph. All I can hope for is some people come up with some mods that VASTLY improve its performance. I'll ride it for a while and if I really hate it just sell it. I have a higher end electric motorcycle but I was hoping this might be a good commuter for me. The anemic acceleration might crush that idea though.
check out fly ebike, they have a dealership in my state and seem to be legal/registerable, they have some new emotors that look more stylish than previous lineup and seem to be cheaper, right now theyre preorder and ill want to wait to buy one until they have them in stock to do test drives
@@Ambiguousaxolotl I looked at them before but the highest top speed I saw was about 45 mph. Am I missing something?
@@wavshrdr8452 theyre called the tc spoke and max basically theyre super socos with different branding think top speed was 60mph not built yet but on preorder might wait to buy one till i can see it at the dealership in houston
Thank for the video... I canceled my order, main reason is there new terms... I fear the lack of support in the future, how long will it take for the next wave to even come out... too many issues and promises not met... too bad, I’ll build my own or wait for another company that gets it right and takes care of their supporters.
I’m glad some folks are getting there rides!
Pretty informative review, BUT you didn't touch on range???
Range is a bit complicated of a topic for this. But the nutshell is:
As far as range, at the rate at which I was riding (combined sub 40mph and over 60mph) it would fall short of the promised 80miles, and be more like half of that for my weight.
If you weight between 150 and 180, you could see more than 40 miles on a charge.
@@TrevorAgli Thank you for the update. I like your style, you present things as they are plain & simple ... no BS.
@@RPRosen-ki2fk I appreciate it!
72V is just way to low for a motorcycle motor. They need high voltage 400-900V design. There is too much current, along with it heat lossses, to sustain high power output. It also brings with it added weight and cost due to more copper for heavier gauge wiring. I'm hopeful that the Fuell Fllow will do it right.
That bike does look so sleek.
72v is fine for these speeds u just need an air cooling design
If you notice when he does the 0 to 60 speed test it's not is sport mode you can see it off on the display
Yea, there's an S when in sports mode. Sports mode turns off after it seems 2 mins is what latest tests show.
I suspected roughness in the casting when it was revealed they'd be cast with green sand molds, the most cost-effective casting process. Better and lighter would have been ceramic shell, and the best of course would have been injection molding, very expensive to set up, and not worth it for an initial run like this. I don't know what kind of numbers would make it worthwhile, but would guess it would need to be well over 30K frames.
After 15 years driving bikes (from 125cc to 300cc) I had to move to a Piaggio tricycle for safety reason -and to save my marriage after my last fall in 2021. The tricycle is enormously safe but soooo boring (I use it almost every day). I'm thinking about this EB to make my Sunday rides a bit funnier but I'm also big and heavy, 50+ and I live on a 5th floor in the center of my city (and there is 1 EV charger per 500.000 inhabitants here in Madrid, not joking). I will probably give it a try despite the charging issue but not commute -respect from cars and buses is almost zero here, you need a big moto. Just for fun on a sunny day. Thanks for the great video, very complete, just missing the real range at full battery.
When bro said the alarm is so quiet it’s quite alarming I spit out all my food 🤣
Not many caught that lol!
Excellent review wish your channel great success!
Thanks so much!
What visor is on the bike?
I had a reservation but cancelled it. Glad I did seeing the reviews. 0-60 time is unacceptable. You can buy a Z400 or MT03 for around $5,000 and get sooo much more for your money and 70 mpg.
It’s definitely not for everyone.
Lighter, thinner folks would love the Meta
I might have missed it, but how did you go about getting it insured and plated for CA roads? No doubt that the bike is absolutely sexy looking. Reminds me of an EV version of the Vitpilen 401. Quite a looker!
Did the $700 “white glove” delivery cost include taxes? Or did the owner have to pay taxes to the DMV after receiving the Metacycle.
A simple Niu scooter has regen... this is pathetic.
I know… this is really their attempt at an economy class piece of art.
How long was delivery
I think $5,000 is the only good price for the Metacycle. It's basically a slightly upgraded Onyx but even the Onyx has regen braking and a better 0 to 60 time.
Good argument
Sport mode lasts for 120 secs, then turns off 😌
Yea, seems that way for sure
WHICH DRONE YOU ARE USING? ITS INCREDIBLE
I appreciate it! It's a Mavic Air 2. DJI is killing it
What was the range?
Thanks for the review. I'm about your size and still not sure. It just might be too small. I would feel a little better at $5000.
Great review, that's not good if the SPORT mode drop off after just a few miles, what's the sense in that, on my Varla scooter the two motors at full power run like a champ, I am 250lb and I need that extra power, I am in the second round for the Metacycle, I hope there is a fix or mod for this like ll the other electric bikes and scooter I have had and seen.
I agree. and Hopefully the second round is better!
Your riding in my neighborhood I have an Onyx and a bunch of other bikes and I'm waiting for my delivery day. Can I please see it I'm available anytime.
Hey, Next time I come around I'll let you know!
I'm a skinny dude and that seat looks DUMMY small to me like it was designed for the rider to quit from discomfort before the battery dies. Well done on the video!
Lol thanks for the feedback. And yea, man they missed the mark on the seat… third party modders to the rescue
Makes less noice than my ebike
lol. Welp.
wonder how much work it would take to attach led lights to it so you had a tron bike
Probably not that much work for the amount of satisfaction
Should jave been made with a mid drive motor. For the same watts, you would have much faster take off and triple the torque.
Alarm is so low it’s alarming
Sondors: Success!!
why do they make the seat so thin
Prob a habit from being an ebike company originally. Sure they’ll learn from this first round.
so basically 7000 for a future looking moped you might as well buy a real scooter for less that's way better then this bike
Man, hopefully they come out better for this.
I don't understsndvthis battery capacity, somthing must be mistaken, I have around 2kw in my ebike and it is already a huge brick.
The Metacycle and the anthem will both suffer from lower performance than the likes of zero and livewire
This was a fabulous review. I’m miffed by Sondor’s not classifying the Metacycle properly. If they would’ve classified it as a scooter, it wouldn’t have received as much backlash. Hopefully, Sondor’s watches this review and takes notes, because they can only get better from it.
Isn't the Metacycle classified a motorcycle by it's designed, straddle style, riding position and not it's performance? Scooters usually have a step-thru and floorboard design, along with smaller diameter tires. Sure, it may be a low-performance motorcycle, but still a motorcycle.
how many miles of range did you get at what speeds? Will this be a good and safe beginner bike? (First time rider?)
Yes it will be a great beginner bike, honestly.
As far as range, at the rate at which I was riding (combined sub 40mph and over 60mph) it would fall short of the promised 80miles, and be more like half of that for my weight.
If you weight between 150 and 180, you could see more than 40 miles on a charge.
It’s cool to hear christopher walken voicing this over.
I’m so glad I canceled even tho I still didn’t received my money back, it’s being 10 business days already guess Thursday I will give them another call
Man, it's a bit sad to realize it's not for everyone. Some will love it. Other just will not.
@@TrevorAgli i agree with that, specially when the company LIES and take away features that was part of a group of people that was supposed to be part of it, anyone over 200 lbs won’t have a good time on this, it WONT get the speed limit that was said, it WONT do the promised range neither, plus range, plus removable battery, plus bad finishes, plus difference in colors and the most important STILL behind delivery.
You said the battery get lose as u take it on/off,, what gets lose? The treads on the bike or the screws themselves are cheap? Are the lights bright during the day N night? Can you take off that ugly license plate bracket and hang it under the seat instead?
Yea the threads will get loose.
The lights are definitely bright during the day. Better at night. No problem there.
Plate location customizable honestly to one's liking after delivery.
really only thing I don’t like is the suspension, I was really hoping it was adjustable
Yea. Unfortunate.
Almost ordered one. Might still get one for my wife.
She would def like it I think
great review-despite the setbacks they still look cool
Even though the 0 to 60 time took about 16 to 17 seconds, did it still feel fast due to the bike frame structure of the metacycle?
It was half of that with the 150lb rider..this guy is 250lbs that’s quite heavy
Felt silent and acceptably fast. But not at all superbike fast. If you get what I mean
It's not designed for abnormal loads.
If the majority of their buyers’ weight is what you consider abnormal then… welp.
What type of motor is in the rear wheel?❓
They have all that info on their site sondorsx.com
Not sure whether the stats on the site are the final delivery ones.
Sorry but so far not ONE person has given an HONEST city riding Range PER CHARGE . Due to these issues, I hope this bike is never sold in the UK.
As far as range, at the rate at which I was riding (combined sub 40mph and over 60mph) it would fall short of the promised 80miles, and be more like half of that for my weight.
If you weight between 150 and 180, you could see more than 40 miles on a charge.
Here’s what I know from experience with a Zero SR with 11.5 kWh battery.: when new it used up 1% every 7/10th of a mile at 70mph…which figures out to be 70 miles. At +/- 45mph it could go 1.2 miles on 1%, or 120 miles. I weigh 180 lbs and the bike weighed 400 lbs. Unless that hub motor is far more efficient, with only a 4 kWh battery I’d expect 25 miles at 70 and 42 miles at 45. Nothing scientific here, just noting that 4 kWH is only 34% of 11.5 kWH.
What's the range on this bike?
As far as range, at the rate at which I was riding (combined sub 40mph and over 60mph) it would fall short of the promised 80miles, and be more like half of that for my weight.
If you weight between 150 and 180, you could see more than 40 miles on a charge.
Looks like a motorcycle to me. It has footpegs and you have to stradle it. If it has a deck in the center then it's a scooter.
But it’s “twist and go” with dual hand brakes…just like my Vespa 250…and with similar acceleration and top speeds. But yes, it LOOKS like a motorcycle and probably handles better than a Vespa but at least where I live I can get professional service with any part I need. That’s important to me.
it's hard to believe a different casting techniques would have saved 100lbs?? as a 6'1 200lbs rider with motorcycle experience mostly on ~40hp 600-650cc singles, 70-80mph top speed is ok but somewhere 10-16s 0-60 sound too slow
True, the different methods have varying prices, more expensive for more precise and lighter results.