I have to respectfully disagree with some of what you've said. I've had my Ender 3 S1 Pro for a year and a half and it's been an absolute dream. To be fair, it's possible that I got a later model and I have never used anything else, so I have nothing to compare it to. I have had zero issues with my printer. The bed leveling has been spot on and the spring steel PEI plate still looks brand new after hundreds of uses. I have had to tear down the hot end twice for a filament clog, but I chalk that up to my own negligence for leaving the filament in the extruder for days and days after printing. I've ordered the sonic pad to upgrade to Klipper to get better speed out of it and make filament changes for multi-colored prints easier, but overall, I've loved everything about this printer.
I have watched many reviews on the Creality 3 S1 Pro because I was thinking of getting one, and all the reviews I saw all had good things to say about it and recommended it for ones first 3D printer! Your review is the first that does not recommend it! So now I'm back to square one again.
Well keep in mind, mine was an early sample. I preordered the machine. It may have improved overtime. One can even see in the comments on my video that others have had positive experiences. Unfortunately I have not had lasting positive experiences with any of my Creality machines...literally all 3 of them E3 Pro, S1 Pro, and K1 have all eventually failed to the point of uselessness...yes, even the K1, which I will be making a video about someday shortly after showing how I rebuilt the Sprite Extruder. I've already sold 1 machine, and the other two will be quickly out of the shop as well. IF you're a tinkerer and enjoy rebuilding things all the time, or modifying them to your own personal taste, Creality is the way to go. If you want one to just WORK, save money and get a higher end machine, preferably a CoreXY as well as they are inherently more reliable than bed slingers. I just bought a Bambu Lab X1 Carbon (should be here in a couple days) and that is 3X the cost of the K1 for reference. Keep researching within your tastes and budget! There are a ton of offerings out there and a lot of differing opinions. As I need the machines for my business and need them to "just work", I'm leaving Creality in its entirety.
i think you're better off getting the ender 3 v3. The Ender 3 S1 pro is very outdated already. I've had so many problems with mine. Feel free to ask any other questions.
My S1 Pro has been working perfectly. I'd say you ended up with a lemon. That's the problem with cheaper Chinese printers, its very hit or miss on the quality control.
That definitely seems to be the case in general as I've had pretty great experiences with the K1 and others have not. Main key thing to take away from this IMO is if you're starting out and want something to just work quickly and reliably, spend money, and get a coreXY.
Not a lie. I have 2 and they work well. Other than the usual maintenance, like cleaning, replacing nozzles and adding some clips for the cables, I never had a problem with them.
The E3S1Pro was my first 3D printer and I learned a lot about 3D printing. I never had any hardware or software problems with it. I just wouldn’t spend $500 on a Creality printer again, because the Bambu Labs Core X/Y printers are just plain better for someone who’s starting out. The good Bambu Labs 3D printers come with an enclosure and getting good prints requires a whole lot less hassle than with a bed slinger.
So very true! It was my first as well. My mistake is likely within preordering the unit. Similar situation with the K1 as well, since I won it in a giveaway it's safe to assume it is an early sample, like what reviewers would get. I had that machine before it was technically for sale. That's starting to show as well. This week I plan on catching back up on the videos I've been adding to the list (like the Sprite Extruder rebuild and long term with the K1) since my convention grind is done. Stick around if you'd like to see more coming soon!
Well you answered my questions about companies promoting their products. I'm looking for a 3D Printer, but companies have a bad habit of giving you Bull sh*t. I don't believe ads anymore. So it looks like I'll have to do more research. Thanks
I own one also, I agree, save your money, buy someone like the p1p. If you want get into the world of 3d printing to have a hobby and tinker, then sure buy this but if your goal is to print parts, don't buy this or most of the 3d printers out there. I don't agree that it's easy to update, you have to take the bottom cover off to check what motherboard you have, then you have to take apart the display. It's bullshit. You shouldn't have to do all that. Anyway, buy a coreXY printer, if you can't afford one, save your money and buy a coreXY.
In terms of updates, mine has a sticker that indicates what board is in it. I also don't *think*, though I can't confirm, that the S1 Pros are all the same board. Don't quote me on that... Taking the display apart is relatively simple...the software side of things isn't ideal and a bit of a PITA, but it's fairly standard when it comes to a majority of machines. Thankfully this is on it's way out in new models, more importantly with Wi-Fi capabilities, and it's all either built in to some sort of app or even some slicers or GUI's that work with an attached machine. I stand by CoreXY or Deltas (if you're into wild and crazy fun times) are the way to go!
@@AronPlayss They're not the same boards, that's why they want your to pop them open and look as per their instructions. I *think* however that after this latest update they've put the board number in the "about" tab, but I didn't double check to make sure. It's not a matter of undoing 4 screws, we all have different setups and for me it was a major pain, not to mention this is such a ancient way of doing things. Taking things apart to update firmware is what I was doing back in the 80's, I'm surprised they didn't have people flipping jumpers to update while it was apart. It's a joke. I can't speak to how the other printers are but if as you say, "it's standard" that speaks to how horrible 3d printing world is at moving forward. Thanks to Bambu Lab, hopefully things change. Although they have made some questionable decisions also.
Hi, looks like you are about to have a heart attack, you have to go for a check. I have the same printer with the same blue wheels. Never had a problem with the extruder or anything else, I just keep it oiled, clean, tide and perfectly aligned. thanks for the video.
That was random as hell, but ok, thanks? It must've been something with the preordered units then, because it's been quite the troublemaker. Considering some of the reviews and comments I've seen about the K1 being horrible and my experience being amazing, Creality must have a rough time with QC.
@@AronPlayss Well mine is only 4 months old and I'm going through the same issues, I haven't had to replace the whole extruder but it's making new grinding noises so I suspect it will fail soon, but I have had to replace the hot end that just started oozing out the sides. Not a fan at all of Creality, some of their decisions ensures I won't even consider the K1 Max.
The grinding is coming from within the Sprite Extruder? If so, have you tried cleaning it out? Could be some junk in there from filament going around the gears. I also lubed the hell out of the gears in mind to keep everything as smooth and long lasting as possible. It's not the easiest thing to R&R, but it is doable by most people if memory is average OR are able to follow along a video. I'd be willing to make an R&R video for the Sprite Extruder if people would like one!
@@AronPlayss I haven't tried cleaning it out but I guess I could try, I find it strange that this only started after having to pop it open to check the board number, I didn't touch the extruder but the noise started after that. I unscrewed from the mounting plate just in case it got misaligned some how but it's still doing it. It's making similar noise to when your belts are too tight, but they're not too tight and it's coming from the extruder. Heck ya, I would absolutely love to see a video on how to best lube things for this printer. All I've been doing for the last 4 months is watching videos to try to get up on things.
I will have something put together disassembling a sprite extruder and where I've lubricated very soon. I recently got back from a long vacation and I've had a lot of catching up to do with my multiple podcasts and other projects I work on, so ring the bell if you haven't already so it's not missed! I appreciate all of your interations!@@dosdont
I have to respectfully disagree with some of what you've said. I've had my Ender 3 S1 Pro for a year and a half and it's been an absolute dream. To be fair, it's possible that I got a later model and I have never used anything else, so I have nothing to compare it to. I have had zero issues with my printer. The bed leveling has been spot on and the spring steel PEI plate still looks brand new after hundreds of uses. I have had to tear down the hot end twice for a filament clog, but I chalk that up to my own negligence for leaving the filament in the extruder for days and days after printing. I've ordered the sonic pad to upgrade to Klipper to get better speed out of it and make filament changes for multi-colored prints easier, but overall, I've loved everything about this printer.
I have watched many reviews on the Creality 3 S1 Pro because I was thinking of getting one, and all the reviews I saw all had good things to say about it and recommended it for ones first 3D printer!
Your review is the first that does not recommend it! So now I'm back to square one again.
Well keep in mind, mine was an early sample. I preordered the machine. It may have improved overtime. One can even see in the comments on my video that others have had positive experiences. Unfortunately I have not had lasting positive experiences with any of my Creality machines...literally all 3 of them E3 Pro, S1 Pro, and K1 have all eventually failed to the point of uselessness...yes, even the K1, which I will be making a video about someday shortly after showing how I rebuilt the Sprite Extruder. I've already sold 1 machine, and the other two will be quickly out of the shop as well.
IF you're a tinkerer and enjoy rebuilding things all the time, or modifying them to your own personal taste, Creality is the way to go. If you want one to just WORK, save money and get a higher end machine, preferably a CoreXY as well as they are inherently more reliable than bed slingers. I just bought a Bambu Lab X1 Carbon (should be here in a couple days) and that is 3X the cost of the K1 for reference.
Keep researching within your tastes and budget! There are a ton of offerings out there and a lot of differing opinions. As I need the machines for my business and need them to "just work", I'm leaving Creality in its entirety.
i think you're better off getting the ender 3 v3. The Ender 3 S1 pro is very outdated already. I've had so many problems with mine. Feel free to ask any other questions.
My S1 Pro has been working perfectly. I'd say you ended up with a lemon. That's the problem with cheaper Chinese printers, its very hit or miss on the quality control.
That definitely seems to be the case in general as I've had pretty great experiences with the K1 and others have not. Main key thing to take away from this IMO is if you're starting out and want something to just work quickly and reliably, spend money, and get a coreXY.
Not a lie. I have 2 and they work well. Other than the usual maintenance, like cleaning, replacing nozzles and adding some clips for the cables, I never had a problem with them.
@@_DROM_ Typical Chinese mass production strikes again! Some have had good experiences, others have had awful experiences, mine being the latter.
The E3S1Pro was my first 3D printer and I learned a lot about 3D printing. I never had any hardware or software problems with it. I just wouldn’t spend $500 on a Creality printer again, because the Bambu Labs Core X/Y printers are just plain better for someone who’s starting out. The good Bambu Labs 3D printers come with an enclosure and getting good prints requires a whole lot less hassle than with a bed slinger.
So very true! It was my first as well. My mistake is likely within preordering the unit. Similar situation with the K1 as well, since I won it in a giveaway it's safe to assume it is an early sample, like what reviewers would get. I had that machine before it was technically for sale. That's starting to show as well. This week I plan on catching back up on the videos I've been adding to the list (like the Sprite Extruder rebuild and long term with the K1) since my convention grind is done. Stick around if you'd like to see more coming soon!
Well you answered my questions about companies promoting their products. I'm looking for a 3D Printer, but companies have a bad habit of giving you Bull sh*t. I don't believe ads anymore. So it looks like I'll have to do more research. Thanks
Were you considering the S1 Pro or simply Creality products?
I own one also, I agree, save your money, buy someone like the p1p. If you want get into the world of 3d printing to have a hobby and tinker, then sure buy this but if your goal is to print parts, don't buy this or most of the 3d printers out there.
I don't agree that it's easy to update, you have to take the bottom cover off to check what motherboard you have, then you have to take apart the display. It's bullshit. You shouldn't have to do all that. Anyway, buy a coreXY printer, if you can't afford one, save your money and buy a coreXY.
In terms of updates, mine has a sticker that indicates what board is in it. I also don't *think*, though I can't confirm, that the S1 Pros are all the same board. Don't quote me on that... Taking the display apart is relatively simple...the software side of things isn't ideal and a bit of a PITA, but it's fairly standard when it comes to a majority of machines. Thankfully this is on it's way out in new models, more importantly with Wi-Fi capabilities, and it's all either built in to some sort of app or even some slicers or GUI's that work with an attached machine.
I stand by CoreXY or Deltas (if you're into wild and crazy fun times) are the way to go!
@@AronPlayss They're not the same boards, that's why they want your to pop them open and look as per their instructions. I *think* however that after this latest update they've put the board number in the "about" tab, but I didn't double check to make sure. It's not a matter of undoing 4 screws, we all have different setups and for me it was a major pain, not to mention this is such a ancient way of doing things. Taking things apart to update firmware is what I was doing back in the 80's, I'm surprised they didn't have people flipping jumpers to update while it was apart. It's a joke. I can't speak to how the other printers are but if as you say, "it's standard" that speaks to how horrible 3d printing world is at moving forward. Thanks to Bambu Lab, hopefully things change. Although they have made some questionable decisions also.
Ditto, not happy with mine either. Hopefully the hopefully the 3D printer mediocracy era is coming to an end thanks to Bambu Lab pushing the industry.
Hi, looks like you are about to have a heart attack, you have to go for a check. I have the same printer with the same blue wheels. Never had a problem with the extruder or anything else, I just keep it oiled, clean, tide and perfectly aligned. thanks for the video.
That was random as hell, but ok, thanks?
It must've been something with the preordered units then, because it's been quite the troublemaker. Considering some of the reviews and comments I've seen about the K1 being horrible and my experience being amazing, Creality must have a rough time with QC.
@@AronPlayss Well mine is only 4 months old and I'm going through the same issues, I haven't had to replace the whole extruder but it's making new grinding noises so I suspect it will fail soon, but I have had to replace the hot end that just started oozing out the sides. Not a fan at all of Creality, some of their decisions ensures I won't even consider the K1 Max.
The grinding is coming from within the Sprite Extruder? If so, have you tried cleaning it out? Could be some junk in there from filament going around the gears. I also lubed the hell out of the gears in mind to keep everything as smooth and long lasting as possible. It's not the easiest thing to R&R, but it is doable by most people if memory is average OR are able to follow along a video.
I'd be willing to make an R&R video for the Sprite Extruder if people would like one!
@@AronPlayss I haven't tried cleaning it out but I guess I could try, I find it strange that this only started after having to pop it open to check the board number, I didn't touch the extruder but the noise started after that. I unscrewed from the mounting plate just in case it got misaligned some how but it's still doing it. It's making similar noise to when your belts are too tight, but they're not too tight and it's coming from the extruder. Heck ya, I would absolutely love to see a video on how to best lube things for this printer. All I've been doing for the last 4 months is watching videos to try to get up on things.
I will have something put together disassembling a sprite extruder and where I've lubricated very soon. I recently got back from a long vacation and I've had a lot of catching up to do with my multiple podcasts and other projects I work on, so ring the bell if you haven't already so it's not missed!
I appreciate all of your interations!@@dosdont