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The Disappearance of the Eastern Germans

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
  • Before WWII and the rise of Communism in the East, tens of millions of Germans inhabited the region of Eastern Europe, but now only a paltry handful remain. How and why did nearly 20 million souls disappear from their homelands almost overnight in one of the most stunning vanishing acts in world history?
    Be sure to let me know your thoughts on these old German communities of Russia, Poland, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and many others. Thanks for watching!
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  • @konferansjer
    @konferansjer ปีที่แล้ว +839

    My grandmother was a German that was spared expulsion from Poland. Her family was semi-polonized already, they never supported the nazi regime and spoke decent Polish. They were required to change their surname to a Polish one and were basically left alone to live as Poles if they desired to stay (they did). I am truly sad that my grandmother died when I was still a small child and many stories she could have told me are gone now.

    • @tomasvrabec1845
      @tomasvrabec1845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A lot of people do not realise that there were dozens of thousands of Germans that were not expelled for that exact reason.
      They had a prove that they were not supporting the Nazis and they were semi assimilated.
      Meanwhile there were also far too many that were supportive of Nazis.
      So you had ethnic conflicts where a nation of people lost a war where the goal was to exterminate or enslave the majority groups ethnicity in a given region.
      Population was scattered across countries.
      The hate and grieve CES of the war, combined with destruction would likely led to balkan-like conflict between the Slavic people and the Germans. Even just during the expulsion there were many individuals acts of such violence.
      But also, the WW2 was not the first instance. Poland on its own was partitioned 3 times and 3 times the argument was that Germans resided there.... so after such mass conflict happened they expelled Germans out.
      Was it kind? No. Yet between a never ending ethnic conflict and unstable region... between a complete potential for a German genocide... the expulsion was the least conflict-filled action one could have taken towards stability

    • @kubagozdzik9708
      @kubagozdzik9708 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Mega ciekawe

    • @konradwilliams1395
      @konradwilliams1395 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Mine was the same except name change, her sisters moved to Hamburg

    • @Macion-sm2ui
      @Macion-sm2ui 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Very similar story with my great-grandparents. My great grandpa was Wehrmaht soilder from Ostpreussen (not volunterilly of course, when the war started he was 40 years old) and fight in eastern front. Before the war ended he became Soviet prison of war. Some time after the war he was transported to Berlin and relased with other german soilders, but decided to come back home to check what happened to his familly. Luckily his wife and children was still there. They stayed in Poland, in now Masuria, until his death in 1960. They already had polish surname but had to change their names to sound more polish (great grandfather Willi was renamed as Wacław, my grandpa Ulrich was renamed as Julian, his sister Ebeltraud was Małgorzata etc.). All of his children was young when war started and they grew up in Poland, graduated polish schools and spoke polish (my grandpa don't even know german at all). Since 70s majority of my great-grandpa children (and theirs families) migrated to West Germany an aquired citizenship, eventually even his widow did the same. Only child that stayed in Poland was my grandpa.

    • @cleightorres3841
      @cleightorres3841 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my family did not even have to change their names
      i asked my mom if the poles told my family to leave and she said the polish communists said you can stay but if you want to leave we wont stop you
      pretty descent attitude, now compare it to the choices the germans gave the poles and jews
      As an American I think the germans are rotten people

  • @jozefpotacki3413
    @jozefpotacki3413 ปีที่แล้ว +718

    While talking about the expulsion of German people, it's worth noting that there were also large portions of Polish (which are Slavs) population that were being expelled from what we would now call Western Ukraine and Belarus. This wasn't done with the consent of either Polish or German people - Soviet Union had an obssession of reverting countries to their "default", pre-imperialistic shape. The presence of Poles in historically ruthenian lands was considered a result of Polish imperialism. The presence of Germans in Lower Silesia or Pomerania was also seen as a result of German imperialism. So the Soviets moved huge masses of people with no regard to their will. My grandparents were Polish Nationals living in Lviv before WW2.

    • @Tata-ps4gy
      @Tata-ps4gy ปีที่แล้ว +12

      OMG thanks for sharing

    • @dippie.wastaken
      @dippie.wastaken 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      ​@@gRs3jVan26SBJ
      Its not ukraines fault its the soviets fault

    • @neonlight1214
      @neonlight1214 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      ​@Scandanavian Ukrainian communists participated in the mass expulsion of Poles from modern day Belarus and Western Ukraine, not only Russian communists, Belarusian communists, Kazakh communists, and partisans etc... those are all called in one word Soviets.
      So Ukrainian communists participated in colonizing and exterminating Poles from Galicia ( west Ukraine) and Belarus and because of that those territories are Ukrainian and Belarusian land respectively 1

    • @tylerbozinovski427
      @tylerbozinovski427 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      Except it wasn't imperialism. Both Germans and Poles naturally migrated further eastwards, and mixed in with people who were already there.

    • @marcseegers918
      @marcseegers918 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And that's a good thing

  • @pepsi-cola2791
    @pepsi-cola2791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1597

    "greatest vanishing tricks in history" thats a funny way to say genocide

    • @danrook5757
      @danrook5757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      U lose a war, this is the outcome

    • @ARx-mb6ig
      @ARx-mb6ig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +422

      @@danrook5757 what a despicable comment. if that's your mindset, i hope you lose a war one day c:

    • @danrook5757
      @danrook5757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      A. Rx : obviously u know nothing if that’s what u post. Read some books.

    • @declanferguson1040
      @declanferguson1040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      @@danrook5757 "read books" which ones?

    • @alpacoman6864
      @alpacoman6864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danrook5757 it’s one thing to not approve of the doctrine of the Nazis and the harm and destruction they caused but to do the same upon people just because they share a common ethnicity is disgusting fuck you honestly

  • @MrNeumerker
    @MrNeumerker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +497

    I'm a hungarian german. It's good to hear about our history. :-)

    • @attilalukacs9602
      @attilalukacs9602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it's Gothic

    • @eternalsuffering9800
      @eternalsuffering9800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Alex Chelu neumerker is his lastname. Attila is his first name

    • @eternalsuffering9800
      @eternalsuffering9800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Alex Chelu but why? It doesnt make sense. Family name is only lastname 😶

    • @Email5507
      @Email5507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@attilalukacs9602 Attila is turkic name

    • @Email5507
      @Email5507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Alex C again Attila is turkic name

  • @calluml.9098
    @calluml.9098 5 ปีที่แล้ว +920

    I am a descendants of eastern Germans. Are family home was destroyed along with all our village records and we believe the rest of our family was killed. I can't thank you enough for making a video on my people and the terrible expulsion and murder of so many. I love your videos and keep up the great work!

    • @Drunken_Butterfly_
      @Drunken_Butterfly_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      😞

    • @cleightorres3841
      @cleightorres3841 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are in some country speaking your own language then you are a foreigner and you should not expect the same rights as the natives who also have the responsibility for defending that country If you love being German so much then go back to Germany

    • @calogerohuygens4430
      @calogerohuygens4430 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What village?

    • @Userius1
      @Userius1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tough

    • @cleightorres3841
      @cleightorres3841 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Userius1 dont start a war
      dont try to genocide whole ethnic/religious groups of people
      and you wont have to bitch and moan on youtube decades later
      simple
      now try to get that thru a thick krauts head
      impossible

  • @rockyblacksmith
    @rockyblacksmith 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1016

    Another notable element to this story;
    Many ethnic Germans who fled from places like the Ukraine alongside the retreating German army were later dragged back to Russia by the soviets.
    My grandparents (on both sides of the family), originally Black Sea Germans, were in Germany at the end of the war. They were intending to settle in. But appearently the Soviets considered them part of their own population, wether they liked it or not.
    So they were forcefully transported to Russia, suffering terrible living conditions and discrimmination by the local russians. It was only in the mid-70's that my parents managed to get permission to leave the soviet union for Germany.
    And they some of the lucky few. Most ethnic Germans in Russia only got to return to Germany after the fall of the Soviet Union.

    • @Andreas-qm3cc
      @Andreas-qm3cc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Yeah my family has a similar story, they came back to Germany around 1990

    • @ehanoldaccount5893
      @ehanoldaccount5893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Half my family were Danube-Schwaben and managed the survive the Russian purges in the east, they fled after the wall fell. A lot of sad stories from those times..

    • @rudolfkraffzick642
      @rudolfkraffzick642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Massaman is wrong: Germans never migrated to Siberia but suffered deportation under Stalin in this region. The easternmost settlements were in the Caucasus region and in the Ural mountains.

    • @rockyblacksmith
      @rockyblacksmith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@rudolfkraffzick642 Where does he say Germans migrated to Siberia? He talks about them being "scattered across Siberia", which is not exactly the word choice for peaceful migration.

    • @ew-uy6cs
      @ew-uy6cs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Haha take it Russians can hate germany for what they did.

  • @beautifulcarpetdiagram
    @beautifulcarpetdiagram 5 ปีที่แล้ว +507

    Ethnic diversity in central and eastern Europe is an absolutely magnificent topic for a book.

    • @PJH-vd7ve
      @PJH-vd7ve 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      And it's also a good thing that it's over.

    • @DiaJasin
      @DiaJasin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      ethnic diversity is strength

    • @adampyci8311
      @adampyci8311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @DanRage47 It's not because Whites are Nazis and Africans are superior. It's just that people tend to migrate, they have done it for thousands, even millions of years. That's not bad, that's just the way it is. Nothing's constant.

    • @nirad8026
      @nirad8026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      From what I can see, less Germans (less diversity) = more security

    • @AW-dt8ct
      @AW-dt8ct 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@nirad8026 Indeed

  • @katherinetutschek4757
    @katherinetutschek4757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    This is a great short explanation of a lot of history that is unknown to most people in North America. I have German East Prussian and Volga German ancestry on my mother's side, and what you said fits in exactly with their experiences. My paternal great grandfather was also part of an insular Czech community that had been living in Poland for hundreds of years. They still saw themselves as Czech and spoke Czech.
    When I tell people my grandfather's family still saw themselves as German even after living in the Ukraine/Russia for generations and did not inter-marry with the local population, most people immediately assume it has to be because of some Nazi ideology.... It's quite tiring to constantly explain to people.

    • @thricecrazy33
      @thricecrazy33 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      volga germans suffered greatly but still survive.

    • @youarewrong5523
      @youarewrong5523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should take a Y-dna test

    • @Brslld
      @Brslld ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@thricecrazy33 Very strong people

    • @cleightorres3841
      @cleightorres3841 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would you want to live in another country and not assimilate? If you are so nuts about being German then stay in Germany I dont think the Poles, Czechs and Russians were begging you to come. In America Germans assimilated and there are no problems here. You people create a bad situation then whine about it. As an American I dont get it

    • @cleightorres3841
      @cleightorres3841 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@youarewrong5523 As a woman she cant but the name is obviously slavic not that any of that matters to anyone

  • @HYDRAdude
    @HYDRAdude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +768

    I remember my university professor for a course on modern Europe saying once "After WW1 borders moved but the people didn't. After WW2 people moved but borders didn't." The more I learn the more right he is in saying that.

    • @XanthusPictures
      @XanthusPictures 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      That’s honestly a brilliant summary

    • @obiwahndagobah9543
      @obiwahndagobah9543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      German borders changed after WW2. Pomerania, Silesia and Prussia were inside German borders before.

    • @nirad8026
      @nirad8026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He's a dumbass. Borders did shift, although not that drastically.

    • @obiwahndagobah9543
      @obiwahndagobah9543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @CipiRipi00 Sure not that drastically, though for me as German it had big effects. Many Germans have at least one grandparent coming from the former eastern provinces or the former German settled parts of Bohemia. So as a German of my generation you grew up with stories about their old homelands, where they could never return to.

    • @JerrySeriatos
      @JerrySeriatos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      except in the Balkans, where people were moved by agreement

  • @johnfox901
    @johnfox901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    My friend's grandparents ( opa and oma)are both in their 90s and were born and raised in German speaking areas of Eastern Europe. The oma was from what is now Serbia and speaks with a strong German accent but also speaks Hungarian and Serbian fluently. All the Germans in her village were expelled at the end of the war , their farms were taken . Many had to escape and many were put into concentration camps and died. The opa was from Prussia ( now Western Poland). Both have amazing stories of survival and eventually migrated to North America in the late 1950s

    • @lieberfreialsgleich
      @lieberfreialsgleich 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      John Fox Maybe the beginning of the NWO.

    • @barbararobinson7022
      @barbararobinson7022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      My grand parents were from Konigsberg/ kaliningrad

    • @lukacurcic5403
      @lukacurcic5403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Im from Serbia, i know for a german minority there, they came within the time of Austria-Hungary. They were expelled by communist regime because they cooporated with SS division. Im sorry for your grandparents, not all Germans cooporated with SS but big majority did. And of course they had not been in Concentration camps. By the way, my country is giving back the property of german famillies to their descendants, so if you want, you can get it back. Cheers!

    • @lukei6255
      @lukei6255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wonder if they were Nazis. Ask them if they collaborated with Nazi Germany against the local population. How many they shot or send to the concentration camps. Just ask and let us know.

    • @lukacurcic5403
      @lukacurcic5403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lukei6255 nope, now the West controls the Balkans and we can see that, Turkey is concentrated on Asia where it actually belongs

  • @johnpatti4391
    @johnpatti4391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    My grandmother's family emigrated from Schwabia or Bavaria down the Danube to Tatabanya, Hungary in 1643, about half of their village did and formed a new town. The story I was told is the original inhabitants had been wiped out by plague and no one was working the land so no tax revenue was being generated, so the king gave them the land for free. My grandmother was born in 1905 and they still spoke german in her village and maintained their own customs.

    • @guimuy
      @guimuy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      My grandmother's family has a similar story. They were the so-called Donauschaben. She emigrated to Uruguay after Trianon, where I live now. We still speak German. My sons too.

  • @liebling419
    @liebling419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    My parents and ancestors lived in the now Romanian province of Banat in a village called Liebling which has retained its name. Province was home to almost 2 million ethnic Germans prior to WW2 Unfortunately the majority of Liebling' s citizens fled westward to avoid the Red Army in 1944 . Those adult males and females who remained were sent off to the Russia to mine coal for 4-5 Years , many not returning. Stalins reparations

    • @patriciabrenner9216
      @patriciabrenner9216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not enough reparations.

    • @dieterbarkhoff1328
      @dieterbarkhoff1328 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      My mother from Werschetz, just across the border from Romania was one of them.

    • @dieterbarkhoff1328
      @dieterbarkhoff1328 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patriciabrenner9216 Spoken like a true lover of mankind. It's people like you who sheepishly swallow war propaganda and make the next one inevitable.

    • @internationalspacestation7471
      @internationalspacestation7471 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@patriciabrenner9216Your're a rightous one, I see, they were civilians and didn't deserve any of that.

    • @ClassicCoreNightcore
      @ClassicCoreNightcore 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Liebling, that's a cute village name. Means "Darling" in English

  • @AnonymousAnonymous-yq5ox
    @AnonymousAnonymous-yq5ox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1084

    about 1 million germans died between 1945-1947 due to forced relocation. Notably, after ww2.

    • @roodborstkalf9664
      @roodborstkalf9664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +221

      Not entirely correct. Nearly all died in the first half year of 1945. Also according to official history around 2 million of the 12 million Germans living east of the current German borders died.

    • @consensus949
      @consensus949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@roodborstkalf9664 what was the cause of death

    • @roodborstkalf9664
      @roodborstkalf9664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      many causes, but mostly murder, but also starvation, extremely cold weather during their flight, being caught up in fighting between Soviet and German troops, also allied bombing and mining of ships in the Baltic, and for those sent there, being worked to death with little food in the Gulag, mostly in Siberia.

    • @consensus949
      @consensus949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      @@roodborstkalf9664 so fucking horrid. Imagine all those people around the world at this time grabbing worktools instead of weapons. How our world would look like then. WTF is wrong with mankind.

    • @KubusSc7
      @KubusSc7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Make it 2.5 Million.

  • @zedxyle
    @zedxyle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    My grandfather is an ethnic German born in Hungary in 1938. He was deported to East Germany after the war and eventually made his way to Canada. Similar story for my grandmother, whose parents were ethnic Germans from Transylvania

    • @henrikrolfsen584
      @henrikrolfsen584 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Hungarian Germans are a very important part of German ethnic history. Germans settled along side the banks of the ancient lake "Balaton", (Plattensee), and were known to the Ancient Romans!

    • @JM-gu3tx
      @JM-gu3tx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are still pockets of Germans in both countries to this day.

  • @hughmungus1767
    @hughmungus1767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I talked to an ethnic German woman in Germany in 1999 who had been booted out of Czechoslovakia in 1946. I think she must have been quite young then. She said the Czechoslovak army came to her village one day, knocked on each door, and told the residents that they had 24 hours to get out of town. They took this very seriously and packed up whatever they could carry and left. I don't know the rest of her story, just that part of it.

    • @pedrocavalcante5822
      @pedrocavalcante5822 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why were there so many Germans in Czechoslovakia?

    • @borzmir9326
      @borzmir9326 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      they had mercy over her, when germans knocked to the door of poles the poles had no time.

    • @PiconPrimeKnight
      @PiconPrimeKnight ปีที่แล้ว

      @@borzmir9326 When the polish "liberation" army came prussians didnt even heard a knocking, just mass shootings and mass rapings ... and the worst was to come in the form of the red Army wich pushed the polish "liberation" army in front of them, wich extended the mass rapings and killings even further. Those polish wich were anti jewish starting with the polish anti jew movement in 1920 (even before Hitler thought about it) were cheering when the German army marched in and took care of the jews and now when they had the chance of expansion to the times of polish medival expansion they didnt waste a single second to exterminate those wich they cheered on years before.
      Story isnt as black and white as you were clearly thaught to think it were.

    • @rorikkbluetoothh5773
      @rorikkbluetoothh5773 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@borzmir9326 BS.

    • @Nidzadrugar
      @Nidzadrugar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@rorikkbluetoothh5773No BS, same thing in Serbia. Still, I'm not justifying the expulsion.

  • @buster117
    @buster117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Argentina coughs in the background*

    • @ivanadiego6067
      @ivanadiego6067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We are always forgotten because the world thinks that is just another hispanic mestizo country but that is not really the case

    • @ivanadiego6067
      @ivanadiego6067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @I HATE TOUCANS That is true, but not in the case of many of us who are of germanic, slavic, nordic, etc ancestry. most of latin america nations are mostly mestizos with the exception of south brazil uruguay and most of argentina. It is notisable that the image that the world has about SA is the US depiction of the mexicans who are mostly mestizos.

    • @lucasm7781
      @lucasm7781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ivanadiego6067 La imagen que da Estados Unidos sobre Latinoamérica es porque así son realmente los Latinos que ellos conocen y que están cercanos a ellos
      Argentina, Chile y Uruguay son una excepción en Latinoamérica.

    • @istayinpubs6923
      @istayinpubs6923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My great grandfather was a German Jew originally from Odessa he migrated to Argentina in the 20shence my surename is Stein aguante 🇦🇷

    • @Clausmiran1837
      @Clausmiran1837 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivanadiego6067 maradona is a meztizo

  • @jonkeuviuhc1641
    @jonkeuviuhc1641 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    The romanian nobility wasn't German, only the royal family. After the unification of Wallachia and Moldavia under Prince Ioan Cuza, they needed a foreign king to legitimate the union in the eyes of the bigger and more powerfull countries. In fact Romania entered WWI on the ANTANT side.

    • @tylerbozinovski4624
      @tylerbozinovski4624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And then the Romanians surrendered.

    • @PinkNarcissus87
      @PinkNarcissus87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Just wanna point out that the Kaiser and King Ferdinand were both Hohenzollerns, yes, but brothers, no.

    • @straticiucioana
      @straticiucioana 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      True, and I don't know where from Massaman pulled out this falsehood, there is no source for this allegation. In Transilvania Germans were farmers, kraftsmen and merchands, landlords were Hungarians and some assimilated Romanians from the nobility pre-existing Hungarian invasion and succesive expansion, such as Hunyad, Banfy, Dragfy, Kendefy and others.

    • @bohemianwriter1
      @bohemianwriter1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Consider WW1 a family feud that got out of control:-)
      Europe in general was mostly ruled by a handful of families which were more or less related to each other.
      Using us, their respective populations as expendable pawns in their own dick contest.
      Anyone refusing to be that pawn, was considered unpatriotic and a coward.

  • @Simi822
    @Simi822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The Baltic Germans where repatriated before 1942 as Germany and the USSR agreed on it (Heim in Reich). After the WW2 the Allies ordered the German expulsion from Todays Poland, Czech republic, Slovakia, Yugoslavia and Hungary. Romania "sold" its Germans to Kohl. the USSR Germans moved to Germany after the collapse of the USSR.

    • @waffelreitter7231
      @waffelreitter7231 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean sold?????

    • @Simi822
      @Simi822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ceausescu regime got 10.000 DM for each German they allowed to leave..it even got higher with time /euronews.com/2014/08/01/trading-germans-a-secret-cold-war-trade-in-human-beings/ , they where expert in this as from Israel they got around 15.000 for each Jew they allowed to leave to Israel.

    • @dorzsboss
      @dorzsboss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Only Romania sold its german citizens. Other countries forced out a lot of them. In the other hand for example in Hungary the german ethnic group counts more than 150 thousand people.

    • @Simi822
      @Simi822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nigga did someone written the opposite? read my post again...

    • @AnonymousAnonymous-yq5ox
      @AnonymousAnonymous-yq5ox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      about 1 million germans died between 1945-1947 due to forced relocation. Notably, after ww2.

  • @g.peters244
    @g.peters244 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Millions of Eastern Germans have Slavic roots. Slavs lived in areas as far as Hamburg and Leipzig, and even Berlin has a Slavic history. Millions of Czechs, Sorbs and Poles were Germanized during centuries of German rule.

    • @buoazej
      @buoazej 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Even Eastern Bavaria has heavy slavic population, which was germanised over the centuries. It’s called Bavaria Slavica I believe.

    • @anonymous-hz2un
      @anonymous-hz2un 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That was waaaaay back in medieval times, Ivan. Wanna talk about the early germanic tribes like the vandals who resided in the area of Krakow way before the slavs settled there? 😂😂

    • @buoazej
      @buoazej 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@anonymous-hz2un I'd rather talk about why most German towns have names of Slavic or Gallic origin.

    • @anonymous-hz2un
      @anonymous-hz2un 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@buoazej nobody cares. Half of your country was german territory stolen away and given to you by Stalin. No amount of mental gymnastics will change that. Get over it 😉

    • @GrzegorzBraunYTOfficial
      @GrzegorzBraunYTOfficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@anonymous-hz2unSure let's talk😂.
      The Vandals that you just mentioned weren't only Germans Lmfao, Vandals same like many other groups/tribes were combined/mixed of various ethnicities. For example the Goths had Slavic people amongs them, the Vandals also very likely have had various non Germanic tribes amongst them. Remember that cultures like the Lusathian culture and Pomeranian culture are Slavic cultures that must've had an ancestoe native to the lands. In short Slavs always inhabited the Slavic lands of East Germany and Central/Eastern Europe wheter you want to admit it or not. Heck even the Scandinavian ethnonym for us "Vinden" means friend meaning that we must've lived here for quite a long time since otherwise why would oue northern neighbours call/consider us their friends?

  • @bmjv77
    @bmjv77 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    When I was in the Air Force, stationed in Germany, back in 2008, I had the chance to go TDY to Romania for a few months. During my time there, I went on an MWR trip to Transylvania. We stopped in a couple of cities and you could tell by the architecture that the place was built by Germans.

    • @bubulolo207
      @bubulolo207 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah because transilvanya was under austrian dominion for hundreds of years

    • @dilemma8550
      @dilemma8550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@bubulolo207 the german presence there was (mostly) because of hungary. The hungarian kings invited german settlers to transsylvania-Siebenbürgen in the 12/13th century

    • @bubulolo207
      @bubulolo207 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dilemma8550 oh yeah i learned fromt that un sibiu, i forgot. German colonizers, super interesting

    • @dilemma8550
      @dilemma8550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bubulolo207 when have you been to sibiu-hermannstadt?

    • @bubulolo207
      @bubulolo207 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dilemma8550 like 1 week ago, why?

  • @scd242
    @scd242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    For some reason, I was surprised by German's in Kyrgyzstan.

    • @ernarein8134
      @ernarein8134 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Warum haben Sie die Deutsche in Kyrgistan überrascht? Alle Deutschen wurden nach Erlass von Stalins vom 28.08.1941 zwangsumgesiedelt nach Sibirien,Каsachstsn, Kyrgistan.Einige sind noch da geblieben, aber die Meisten Deutschen sind in den 90-Jahren nach Deutschland gegangen.

  • @ashrafalsaadoon6120
    @ashrafalsaadoon6120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1337

    Do video on pre-islamic arab history

    • @dreisaum9916
      @dreisaum9916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      sounds very interesting

    • @paultremblay4836
      @paultremblay4836 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      It's simple, pre Islamic Arabs were a pagan sparsely populated with a Jewish elite who ruled them. The Saudi dynasty come from that elite

    • @ashrafalsaadoon6120
      @ashrafalsaadoon6120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      @@paultremblay4836 it's not simple because pre-islamic arabs had many kingdoms like nabataean kingdom and sheba ,not all arabs were paganist there's used to be chirstian, jewish and zoroastrian arabs

    • @intuendaecivilization9365
      @intuendaecivilization9365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      You're fucking cool!
      Hope there will be more people like you in the future. :)

    • @ashrafalsaadoon6120
      @ashrafalsaadoon6120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@intuendaecivilization9365 thx

  • @rafamieczkowski9913
    @rafamieczkowski9913 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    There is a Polish proverb:"He who sows the wind reaps the storm." The contempt, hatred and crimes that the Germans brought to the eastern part of Europe came back like a deflected wave and hit the surprised perpetrators.

    • @Fella12366
      @Fella12366 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Im all for revenge and such, but having it happen to innocent people isn't fair at all. Not every German is responsible for the war and entire groups of people shouldn't be punished for things that part of their group did

    • @rafamieczkowski9913
      @rafamieczkowski9913 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Do I need to remind you that the Nazis won democratic elections in Germany? And even at the time of the genocide, the Nazis enjoyed the support of the majority of German society. The death, destruction and all the misfortunes that befell the Germans were not a punishment but a consequence of the choices made by these Germans. The punishment was meted out by the courts, and unfortunately only to a few. The rest of German society only suffered the consequences of their own choices. @@Fella12366

    • @metanoian965
      @metanoian965 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Fella12366 After 4 partitions and 150 years of abhorrent behavior by Germans, there is surprisingly little revenge.

    • @Fella12366
      @Fella12366 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@metanoian965 Germans as a whole shouldn't be punished for it, just the perpetrators

    • @user-qr6eb4jg9n
      @user-qr6eb4jg9n 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@metanoian965 It's because if you did take revenge, then Hitler would be right. He told the Germans that the entire world was trying to destroy Germany. Was he right after all?
      If so, then what the Germans did was completely justified. You see how that works? That's why nobody talks about what happened to the Eastern Germans after the war. People would start thinking about these kinds of things

  • @lordpolish2727
    @lordpolish2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the thumbnail gives Germans WAY too big a prescence in Poland for example, it shows the entire "Corridor" was German which simply wasnt true, the corridor was mostly Polish, and it over estimates them in most of the rest of the country, i wouldnt mind it if it was for something else but it gives a false impression for people like nazi's or German ultranationalists who claim that they were just "retaking their rightful land"

    • @longlivepoland6400
      @longlivepoland6400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you don't know what a nazi is

    • @lordpolish2727
      @lordpolish2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@longlivepoland6400 i fixed it and changed it to nazi's or German ultranationalists

    • @scanida5070
      @scanida5070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look closely: The region is coloured in a light shade of red, noting that the region wasn‘t entirely German.
      P.S.: Nationalism is probably the rarest political ideology here in Germany (thank god!).

    • @lordpolish2727
      @lordpolish2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scanida5070 he also colored areas that were majority German back then (eg east Prussia) that colour, so it’s still misleading

    • @pythagorasnine
      @pythagorasnine 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This video is literally Nazi propaganda. It has nothing to do with historical reality. All the red 'German' territories were annexed by Prussia in the partition of Poland in 1795 when Prussia, Prussia and Austria invaded, divided th coutnry and brutally colonised it for a hundred years (until 1918). Part of Bismarck's colonising policy was to move Germans into the Eastern territories ot 'germanise' them. Their presence was later used by Hitler to invade Poland. That the same Nazi bullshit is omitted all over the internet and repeated by uneducated Germans and MAMericans is simply fucking appalling neo-Nazism. We're watching the moment when utter ignorance becomes unadulterated evil.

  • @Tsukiko.97
    @Tsukiko.97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Now I can stop re watching your old vids 😭

    • @ashrafalsaadoon6120
      @ashrafalsaadoon6120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love to Abyssinia from an Arab

    • @antiantifa886
      @antiantifa886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree a very good source he is.

    • @Tsukiko.97
      @Tsukiko.97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The Atheist Arab Much love back to you as well!

    • @Tsukiko.97
      @Tsukiko.97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Anti Antifa I concur for I too personally find his channel stunning and soothing to watch.

    • @camvacations-2067
      @camvacations-2067 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @said wahb alshar'abi Lol!!! Please clarify. My understanding is all the Sabeans left Yemen and settled in north Ethiopia for security reasons. Ive seen the old Sabean writings in Ethiopia.

  • @ilyakogan
    @ilyakogan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    7:10 It's "fifth column", not "third column". A third column is actually essential for the stability of a structure.

    • @twojacksandanace3847
      @twojacksandanace3847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, something seemed weird when he said it and now i know why. It's an honest easy to make error most wont notice so no biggie.

    • @hughmungus1767
      @hughmungus1767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Fifth column" is actually a reference to the Spanish Civil War, which hadn't happened yet in the time mentioned by the presenter of the video. If I remember correctly, four columns of Franco's troops were approaching one of the major Spanish cities that was still under Republican control. Newspapers fretted that four enemy columns were approaching and Franco loyalists said that there was a fifth column as well; this fifth column was the people keen on seeing Franco in power within the city who would aid the approaching columns to overcome the Republican defenses.

  • @Chris-xb7gm
    @Chris-xb7gm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    There were also Bavarian communities in southern Greece, especially in northern suburbs of Athens and some other 1800's big cities. Today they're completely assimilated, and their descendants are like "1/8 German, 7/8 Greek"

  • @robertwisniewski9059
    @robertwisniewski9059 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Berlin was established by western Slavs...not by Germanic tribes cose all the way from Gdansk (Northern Poland) through the Northern Germany up to Denmark there were no Germans during the ancient times...
    See the names of the towns in northern Germany and compare them to the Polish...

    • @user-hb4fc8be2w
      @user-hb4fc8be2w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Serbian names.

    • @robertwisniewski9059
      @robertwisniewski9059 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@user-hb4fc8be2w
      Slavic (polish like) names...roughly speaking...
      Of course Serbs (Serbo-Łużyczanie) are still there...but more to the south...

    • @user-hb4fc8be2w
      @user-hb4fc8be2w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robertwisniewski9059 The term Slavs didn't exist before the 6th century. One more thing, the Greek historian recorded that Baltic Serbs set up a kingdom for themselves and named it Polska. We all know what POLJE means in Slavic languages. It's a cultivated field. Lusatians are just one of the Serbian tribes that survived until the present day. There were more than 27 in the days of the Roman empire. Bodrici, Ljutici, Milcani, Severjani, Pomorjani, Rujani, Vilici and others just to name the few. The Romans diligently recorded everything. The Germanic tribes lived only on the western banks of the river Rhine. By the 10th century the Serbs were almost assimilated by the advancing Germans and the newly formed identity called Polska. There were only two names that were in the circulation for all the Slavs 14 centuries ago: the Serbs and Rashani or Raseni.

    • @bhgkihkh7810
      @bhgkihkh7810 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-hb4fc8be2w Sorry but i as half Serbian,half Polish need to say that it's actually Polish.Sorbs are tribes that made Serbs.Conquered Balkans,Balkans had it's own people and that's to be proud of.But propaganda that Serbs made all Slavs is simply very funny.In Poland there is practically genetic homogenity.And if you started with language,that's very weak proof.Try harder,language is not only about words.Polish grammar and language is far more complex than some South Slavic one.I am proud of both my countries,Vincha culture etc.But Sorbs are far more closer to Poles,genetically,culturally,etc.Etc.

    • @user-hb4fc8be2w
      @user-hb4fc8be2w 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bhgkihkh7810 It is not funny you just need to read a little bit more and educate yourself. Polish identity did not exist before the 6th century. BTW, the Lusatians don't address themselves as Sorbs but Serbs. The Germans call them Sorbs.

  • @mothra__13
    @mothra__13 5 ปีที่แล้ว +593

    it's sad how people use atrocity to excuse further atrocity.

    • @joze838
      @joze838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      so true.

    • @gregszy8575
      @gregszy8575 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Interesting point of wiew. Basically I agre, but watch any western movie. Revenge is the ultimate justice.

    • @sywu111
      @sywu111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      bleh - consider such TWO situations in occupied Poland of WW2:
      1. in 1939 German Nazists created so called General Gouvernement which in first time was NOT to include city of Lodz,
      fairly Polish-Jewish city at the time with just minor German population.
      Lodz NEVER was part of 'Deutsch Vaterland'
      so it's understandable.
      However local Lodz Germans INSISTED on detaching Lodz from GG and putting it to territory of Wartheland which was destined for total Germanization.
      Those volksdeutsches had collaborated with Nazists in expulsion of local Polish people for they could OWN those Polish homes, farms etc.
      Even today in Poland the word 'volksdeutsch' is very insulting word for
      'f*cking s*n-of-be*ches,
      who are aspiring to be Germans, but use criminal methods against Polish'.
      2. German minority in Poland was widely used by Nazists even before WW2 - similarly was in Czechia.
      Those Germans, sometimes even pretending to be Polish (just to fool Polish administration),
      gathered proscription lists of important local Polish patriots, policemen etc. -
      - those Polish people WERE MURDERED in first days of WW2 after German Nazists invaded.
      Additionally, German minority in Poland was widely used by Nazists for inteligence purposes, partizan fighting against Polish army, police etc.
      So now, can you explain me how it was possible for Poland, Czechia, Russia etc. to keep such ILLOYAL German minority in own territories???

    • @labt8194
      @labt8194 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      So true, it's disgusting.

    • @realorbust
      @realorbust 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ratatosk, why don't you grow a pair and say what's really on your mind.

  • @Demographiaanthropology
    @Demographiaanthropology 5 ปีที่แล้ว +593

    It's mindblowing how Germans were so completely removed from Eastern europe

    • @daneprywatne3342
      @daneprywatne3342 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      They have been peaceful joining eastern europe since Polish kings decided to increase population in XIII century .. but since they turned hostile sińce XV century with teuton knights then prussia they must be removed from that territory with force

    • @kostam.1113
      @kostam.1113 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Karma is a bitch.
      Not to mention that Poland will never be threatened now.

    • @CrazyLeiFeng
      @CrazyLeiFeng 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      Ethnic Germans in Central Europe overwhelmingly supported Hitler and committed crimes against Slavic and Jewish populations during WW2. In Czechoslovakia and Danzig Nazis were getting more than 50% of German vote. I think in Czechoslovakia it was 75%. There was also a forced Germanization of Slavs for centuries.

    • @astrobot4017
      @astrobot4017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      And now they are being removed from Germany

    • @abeedhal6519
      @abeedhal6519 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      It's Genocide.

  • @Alexandre.Hamann
    @Alexandre.Hamann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is a history that must be told to the world. It is unfortunate that so few people know this story! My congratulations for your beautiful work. I suggest you make a video about the Germans exploding from their territories in the east. Pomerania, Silesia, West and East Prussia.

    • @amalgama2000
      @amalgama2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice try. First you conquer Pomerania, Silesia, West and East Prussia and massacre or assimilate it's native inhabitants and then you cry on the deportation after the failed attempt to genocide entire nations. Leave the history to historians and live fully at the present days

    • @aeuropeannotbritish7754
      @aeuropeannotbritish7754 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My family comes from east pomerania but they needet to migrate to todays east germany (this happened somowhat after ww2)
      People often don't know how evil the polish where after ww2!

    • @Wilhelm322
      @Wilhelm322 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aeuropeannotbritish7754 The Mothers part of my Family had lived in Königsberg for centuries but after WW2 they were forcefully expelled by the Russians, from what i remember from stories that were told in my family, when my Mothers family was expelled from their Home on their way to Germany proper they were constantly insulted by the polish people who called them Nazis, German Devils and many more insults, for my family it was always important to make clear that what the polish did to the German’s who now lived in polish Territory was both Ethnic Cleansing and Genocide.

    • @aeuropeannotbritish7754
      @aeuropeannotbritish7754 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wilhelm322 yes i agree the polish are evil

    • @tylerbozinovski427
      @tylerbozinovski427 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah people should be talking about this more, rather than focusing on people like the Amerindians and Palestinians.

  • @slawekwojtowicz
    @slawekwojtowicz ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Not a single mention of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, which was a multinational country with Germans living throughout the lands of the most powerful country in Europe. Lack of education or purposeful omission? 🤔

    • @metanoian965
      @metanoian965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The map @ 7' 54" is extremely misleading.
      All that red within Polish borders is bad info.
      Germs were scattered in those areas, They were never the predominant Ethnic group. Except the city of Danzig, 98%.
      Areas such as Pomorze, Poznan, Slansk, Southern OstpreuBen - were majority Polish People 55% - 85% +. Germs lived mostly in towns, [forts lol].

    • @pythagorasnine
      @pythagorasnine 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This video is literally Nazi propaganda. It has nothing to do with historical reality. All the red 'German' territories were annexed by Prussia in the partition of Poland in 1795 when Prussia, Prussia and Austria invaded, divided th coutnry and brutally colonised it for a hundred years (until 1918). Part of Bismarck's colonising policy was to move Germans into the Eastern territories ot 'germanise' them. Their presence was later used by Hitler to invade Poland. That the same Nazi bullshit is omitted all over the internet and repeated by uneducated Germans and MAMericans is simply fucking appalling neo-Nazism. We're watching the moment when utter ignorance becomes unadulterated evil.

  • @nanabijou62
    @nanabijou62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    Both my Polish and German ancestry come from the area of Silesia. I know very well, the conflicts and actions on both Slavic and Germanic sides resulting from not being Polish enough or German enough. A video on Silesia would be great.

    • @KubusSc7
      @KubusSc7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Silesian Uprising rings a bell?

    • @karlxgustav3336
      @karlxgustav3336 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nanabijou62 I like your profile picture

    • @mariopohland1863
      @mariopohland1863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      My family was from Breslau and i visit this town in 2005 , i enjoy it , and its good the german and poles now start working together and my friends from Graveland also come from Breslau , we work hard to gain some respect between poles and germans ...

    • @IhaveBigFeet
      @IhaveBigFeet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mario Pöhland There will be no more wars between us.We’re now too dependent on each other.

    • @almanmitherz
      @almanmitherz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Polen ist Preussen

  • @eedmond85
    @eedmond85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Greetings from Hungary! Many people with German ancestry are still living here, including my family. :)

    • @igorjee
      @igorjee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Szervusz :)

    • @ericb4979
      @ericb4979 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You guys were lucky, my grandmother and her family were on the Yugoslav side of the border and got locked into camps for a few years before they managed to get to the US

    • @ottsmoonsstuff9108
      @ottsmoonsstuff9108 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      moinsen

    • @tompeled6193
      @tompeled6193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They all should be expelled. Nazi crap.

    • @mam0lechinookclan607
      @mam0lechinookclan607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tompeled6193 your a nazi

  • @bluecanary1note
    @bluecanary1note 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The Eastern Germans who went to *Australia* did well. They built the Australian wine industry.

    • @jonglewongle3438
      @jonglewongle3438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh, yeah. Germans came out to Australia post-war. I knew a kid in school for some brief time, a couple of years late primary, maybe into secondary, also, who was of a specifically German extraction. First name Herbie. Nice kid, not in my year. Close to being first through 2nd generation. One of the Wanda Beach victims - poor thing - 1st through 2nd generation German. But, all that being said, it was a real hellava lot more Italians, and Greeks, and Poles, even Indians, and others from wierd places which I couldn't specify.

  • @pythaesfromtheonionpatch1640
    @pythaesfromtheonionpatch1640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ukrainian German. We downed a ranch outside of Kyiv from 1638 to 1923 when my family moved to Lviv. My family split off in the 30s. Some went back to Germany in 1939 and some (because they wr Mennonites and therefore usually pacifist) stayed put. The ones who stayed put wr part of the post war Soviet genocides of the volksdeutche...there a mass grave in Ternopil where maybe 500 lay...but however this is in the past...and now actually a lot of families (myself included) are returning to Ukraine

    • @Soul-co7ki
      @Soul-co7ki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How could you know all these things?

    • @kentrosaurusboi3909
      @kentrosaurusboi3909 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Soul-co7ki Families share stories, good sir.

    • @benjamintin136
      @benjamintin136 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine were from Crimea and Kherson, hello fellow Ukrainian German!

  • @rjohnson1690
    @rjohnson1690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My grandmother’s family was Volga German. The parts of our family that stayed in Russia, rather than coming to the US before WWI, was forcibly exiled to Kazakhstan during WW2. The few members of the family that survived WW2 have attempted to return to the original village that our family originally came from in the 1990s.

    • @lottivonhesse9382
      @lottivonhesse9382 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I am full ethnic German, and you have my full sympathies - what the poles committed against millions of Germans is just too despicable! They murdered my Mother's friend's father, and two of my uncle's and their families, were expelled at gun point from West Prussia - so was our friend, Norbert - they stole his family home, land, and greenhouses, and murdered his father! Long live the Prussians, and long live the German peoples!

    • @titanicisshit1647
      @titanicisshit1647 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lottivonhesse9382 you murdered many mother's friends' fathers,germans,trying to sound like victims

    • @Itsmussolini
      @Itsmussolini 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lottivonhesse9382one day amigo. One day.

    • @averagerussiaenjoyer6114
      @averagerussiaenjoyer6114 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lottivonhesse9382 Deal with turks and arabs in your own homeland first.

    • @Xmenelsanx
      @Xmenelsanx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lottivonhesse9382 now the right wing is coming back to live in germany. I’ve seen some news in Poland trying to polarise the society that Germany want silesia becouse we stole it from them. I personaly think that we all did some nasty things which we shouldnt forgot both Russia, Prussia, Austria and Poland.
      Do you think that it will escalate eventualy with all this propaganda and building everyone against each other to something more than just hate in near future?

  • @TheGangstor
    @TheGangstor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    Hey Masaman, I thank you greatly for addressing this topic. I partly have ancestry from Pomerania and the Warthegau. My grandfather and his mother were expelled from Pomerania after the Second World War as he was still a child. This topic is rarely really discussed in our schools in Germany. Even though I am in Germany, we rarely hear our side of the story in history lessons in school. I think that it is very sad, that there is so much silence about this topic. We also are not allowed to have a other view on these and other historic events. The Germans in the Eastern Territories where there over 700 years and intermarried with the local Slavic populations. 23andme identified a sixth of my DNA as Eastern European.

    • @blackadvertisment6139
      @blackadvertisment6139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      As for polish territories you can discuss it but if you you want to do it properly you need to show the whole picture. And this picture is super depressing for germans and maybe that is why it is omitted. From 800s new settler waves of germans pushed east often with untolerant, discriminative policies. You can read contemporary german sources to get an image of systematic bias against polabians and poles for centuries even under polish sovereign rule. How did your ancestors came to warthegau (you use nazi name for the region), a territory predominantly polish in 18th century? 19th century was a continuous period of land expulsion, disowning, cultural discrimination and resettling of poor german tenants from the german interior onto polish land. This division you created cost you territory, millions of dead compatriots and a immense hatred of eastern europeans. You don't teach this in schools because your imaginative candy sweet stories of peaceful germans in the east has got 0% validity and everyone can find proof easily. So you choose to forget it

    • @TheGangstor
      @TheGangstor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @Ateistyczna Prawica : It is a lot different here in Germany than it is in Poland you know. You have history books with a Polish point of view, where you defend what you do think is right and try to let your people look the best way possible, which also is the normal way to portray your own nation in a healthy country. We in Germany on the other side only have self hating history books, which only show our bad sides and nearly never show the wrongdoings we had to endure ourselves. It is also forbidden to defend some parts of our history in our own country, which leads one to think, why it is that way. I can't write it here, but I think a lot of people will know what I mean. There are similiar situations in the US right now. I know how cruel it was bringing christianity to the Slavic world, but we had the same happening to us before. Charlemagne slaughtered 4000 Saxons in one day in Verden in the name of Christendom, because they did not want to convert. It is not a Nazi name, don't approach me with such nonsense we already have enough of in Germany. It is a German name for it, it means landscape near the Warta. My Pomeranian ancestors lived there for centurys and also had names that clearly sounded slavic, especially the Kashubian ancestors had them. My ancestors from the Warthegau were requested from the Polish government as Hauländer to make the land arable in what is now Wielkopolski. You may know some towns with the a part of their name beeing holendry, this is a remnant of the history of those towns and villages. They did intermarry with Poles and through them I have some distant Polish ancestors, too. My greatgrandfather and his brothers from there first had to fight for the Poles and after that for Germany. He even spoke Polish and German. His brothers both fell in Russia and he survived. What you are writing there is not true and you also seem to have no clue how a German history book looks like.

    • @roadtonever
      @roadtonever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @Ateistyczna Prawica
      We are here to learn. The best way is by cleaning your own house first, which you should acknowledge Beauregard did. My ethnic Polish ancestors had property confiscated by Soviet officials after WWII. Decades later the Soviets were "kicked out", but rather than embracing capitalism the replacement was domestic socialism. Back during WWII Sweden, my country of birth, was highly supportive of the Nazi regime and persecuted those that would criticize it. Indeed this fact is hidden from public education to this day. We all have skeletons in our closet. I'm glad that today the Polish people are woken up to the silent occupation by Muslims and are setting an example for the rest of Europe. You on the other hand seem more interested in demonizing your peaceful neighbor who has payed reparations to you for the last 70+ years.

    • @polskiszlachcic3648
      @polskiszlachcic3648 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Poles remember what the HRE did to our brethren tribes, Polabians and Sorbians, on modern day German soil. You took over their settlements and replaced them with Germans, yet the Slavic toponyms are still there. Did you know that Berlin comes from Slavic birl/barl, which means Swamp? Sorbians still exist but their number is dwindling because they're forced to assimilate into German society. Polabian was spoken until the 18th century in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.
      On the other hand, Polish kings invited German settlers to help build cities because the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was a multi-ethnic state and very liberal and tolerant at a time were most countries in Europe weren't. We simply could not afford to be racist. We still even have our own native Muslim population, the Lipka Tatars but they are a part of our society because they were always loyal to us. Some of our nobles came originally from Lithuania or Ruthenia like Radziwiłł or Potocki. Even German settlers assimilated into our society. But the partitions forced us to become xenophobic.
      The Polish-German started to deteriorate when the PLC was partitioned. Prussia pursued very racist policies against Polish (or other Slavic tribes like Kashubians) or anything non-German with the "Kulturkampf" by expelling them and replace them with Germans, forbade to speak Polish in schools and other institutions by law and that way some became "Germans" over the centuries even if they ethnically aren't Germanic. WW2 was just the icing on the cake. Austria, despite being also German-speaking, were much more tolerant in comparison to Prussia, which is why most Poles don't hate Austrians.
      Germans nationalist have a hard time to accept or embrace their non-Germanic roots. They don't want to accept that even their capital was originally Slavic or other cities in East Germany that end with -nitz, -itz, -ow and -in. I have nothing against Germans but I'm pissed when they say "Wrocław (Breslau) was always a German city!" which is simply not true. That's like saying Istanbul was always a Turkish city!

    • @roadtonever
      @roadtonever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Slüwonsťě Ťėnąʒ And Gdansk used to have a German name, Danzig. So what?

  • @HermannderCherusker1970
    @HermannderCherusker1970 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Thank you for shining light onto this moment in German history. My father's side of our family came from the area that is now Gdansk-lots of history there. My mother's side came from the Black Forest. We are part of the German diaspora, having left at the beginning of the 19th century and avoiding the World Wars. Some of us are living in Brazil, some in the US. Would love to move back to where my ancestors lived.

    • @tylerbozinovski427
      @tylerbozinovski427 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could. Idk what's stopping you now. Poland is no longer under a communist regime aligned with the USSR.

    • @baneblade48
      @baneblade48 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same, my great grandparents on both sides moved to Canada right before WWI from East Prussia/Ukraine not too sure (Minus my maternal grandma's parents, they were Irish).

    • @sacWeapons
      @sacWeapons 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you'
      re not welcome

  • @bradzamora4424
    @bradzamora4424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    My mother's family is Prussian. They remember when they were pushed from the Volga river and forced to migrate to the United States. I was thrilled to find this video it really helped me understand the gaps my ancestors could never provide me insight with. Thank you very much for telling her story. Almost brought tears to my eyes.

  • @randomradek5284
    @randomradek5284 5 ปีที่แล้ว +384

    *sniff sniff* Prussia

    • @gryf92
      @gryf92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      *Cries in ethnic cleansing

    • @electricink3908
      @electricink3908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Original Prussians were not German but Baltic

    • @bobbills2953
      @bobbills2953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Y-you good bro..?
      **BECAUSE I AIN'T**

    • @Userius1
      @Userius1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Robert B. Shut your mouth. Goths came around the 200s before migrating south. First they came from Scandinavia.

    • @Userius1
      @Userius1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@Robert B. No. Most historians know that their exact origins are hard to pinpoint. However, it is believed they originated with the Geats, moved from there to Gothiscandza in now northern Poland, and then proceeded to move on toward Roman territories. The point is that regardless, they have nothing to do with ancient Prussians, who were Baltic tribes!
      You Germans complain about Poles "stealing" things yet then do the same to everyone else. Goths are overrated anyway.
      Slavs had a much more significant migration history. Read Procopius.
      Thank you for sharing that tidbit though. Nice to know that some sad boomer loser has nothing better to do than whine like a sad cunt.

  • @abdamit
    @abdamit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    the british queen's family stems from germany aswell, just sayin'

    • @robertrobski1013
      @robertrobski1013 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They're german jews you dumb

    • @CaptainFalkorm
      @CaptainFalkorm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@robertrobski1013I didn't know the Hannoverians intermarried with their jewish population, I mean the jews did that with many german aristocratic families (guess they were broke and needed some dough) but can you give me a source that of all these families the Hannoverians were part of that too?

    • @Climpus
      @Climpus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you can be bothered to put in the correct possessive apostrophe, the one denoting the missing 'g' and to beak the sentence into two clauses, why not do it properly in the first place? You obviously know how to do it correctly!

    • @michamcv.1846
      @michamcv.1846 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuk this on food crisis betting goldmansachs queen , bettter to loose Rheincastel to the fanks than to the brits xD

    • @Robwolf28
      @Robwolf28 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it was the Electorate of Hanover or Brunswick-Luneburg it is lower Saxony, it seems according to his map the British after World War II regained lower Saxony for awhile.

  • @chiken42069
    @chiken42069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great video (most of what you said applied to my ancestors). I am a descendant of Germans who came from southern Germany to the Volga during the reign of Catherine the Great... in WW2 they were sent to Kazakhstan. I am also a descendant of Koreans who were deported by the soviets to Kazakhstan around that time. Most of my family moved back to Germany after the fall of the Soviet Union... many other germans in Kazakhstan did the same.

    • @matthewchen8714
      @matthewchen8714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Were you born in Kazakhstan? Were your parents born in Kazakhstan? Are you half German half Korean?

  • @jovanpejic
    @jovanpejic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This must also be seen in terms of the "disappearance" (Germanization) of the Western Slavs. Sorbs (the only ones that exist today), Pomeranians (in Slavic: "they live next to the sea"), Veleti and others. Approximately the entire territory of the GDR was home to those peoples who, for centuries from the year 900 onwards, were slowly and systematically transformed into Germans...
    Czechs, Poles and Slovaks should be "central Slavs"

    • @Ghreinos
      @Ghreinos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Many slavs also left the now german lands after the battle on the Raxxa

  • @hazzmati
    @hazzmati 5 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    You pronounced vojvodina wrong. It's voy-vo-dina

    • @foopshrine6786
      @foopshrine6786 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A dobro ne priča srpski

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      LOL fuck off racist punk

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry but how can expect him to pronunce that crap correctly.

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Im not a native speaker of English my native language is dutch i can't pronunce the word thought correctly i have recently challenged my self to learn all major languages in the world i started with romance languages and i can already understand Spanish Portuguese and italian and Romanian after 1 year but then i tried Russian and it was fucked up its going to take over 10 years to learn that its almost as different from dutch as Chinese.

    • @roadtonever
      @roadtonever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @betarage
      Are you kidding? Russian is the easiest slavic language.

  • @morellanaghenz778
    @morellanaghenz778 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    My German ancestors lived in Ukraine near Odessa and near the Ukraine-Romanian border and spoke their own dialect of German. My dad said his parents would speak German to each other about Christmas presents and such but their German was different from the German people in Germany spoke. It was a “southern” German dialect apparently. Im from ND and many if not most people there are descendants of “Germans from Russia.” Thankfully my family left Russia (Ukraine) in the late 1800s before the wars.

    • @POedLib
      @POedLib 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was probably Swobisch, which is a German dialect.

    • @dieterbarkhoff1328
      @dieterbarkhoff1328 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most people don't want to know our stories.

    • @titanicisshit1647
      @titanicisshit1647 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dieterbarkhoff1328 how strange ,did something happen around the 30s ans 40s by any chance?

    • @isaakasimov2456
      @isaakasimov2456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You say many in ND are Germans from Russia. What is ND? Greetings from Austria (they also speak German here).

    • @titanicisshit1647
      @titanicisshit1647 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@isaakasimov2456 north dakota i guess 90%

  • @ericgulick2749
    @ericgulick2749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    "The unfortunate ethnic cleansing of the Germans from central and eastern Europe!". I appreciate that you mentioned that, I love your channel...please keep doing the work that you do.

    • @jancyraniak4739
      @jancyraniak4739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      We, Poles, see it as very fortunate. The truth is that a thousand years ago Germany didn't even have "east Germany", which was a land of western Slavs. Germany later on conquered and germanized those Slavic tribes that used to live there. There are still remnants of the Serbołużyczanie that speak their Slavic language. Germans still owe Slavs a bunch of land, Stalin reclaimed only half of it.

    • @ericgulick2749
      @ericgulick2749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@jancyraniak4739 there is a very rich history of german/slavic conflict...as far as poles are concerned...id say this: ww2 was started because poland was invaded by Germany. Poland had existed for 21 years at that point...previously Germany for hundreds of years, honestly...thousand year claims to land sound biblical...and ridiculous...the people living in the region now called Poland were German mostly,l...until they were ethnically cleansed, but hey I'm glad Poland got their nation back, its just unfortunate that they sold out their best ally in Germany to do so. Isnt it funny how Poland a slavic state...was conquered by a Russian led military coalition and 80% of the polish Lithuanian commonwealth was absorbed by Russia...then about 100 years later Russia steps in to defend the sovereignty of Serbia because "we are the great protectors of the slavic race!"....meanwhile Poland lol...this is what historical whitewashed propaganda looks like!

    • @jancyraniak4739
      @jancyraniak4739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@ericgulick2749 "Poland had existed for 21 years at that point...previously Germany for hundreds of years"
      Not exactly. Kingdom of Poland existed the entire time in personal union with the Russian Empire. Also, that part of Poland that had been during the partitions taken by Prussia, including Greater Poland, was Prussian for only about 120 years, while the Slavic Pomerania and Silesia have been in German hands for ~800 years.
      "I'm glad Poland got their nation back, its just unfortunate that they sold out their best ally in Germany to do so."
      You mean 1918? Not sure what you mean by "ally", as Piłsudski tried to cooperate with Germans but they proved to be too controlling for his taste, which just showed him there is no good will on their part (they jailed him for not wanting to swear obedience to Kaiser). Not sure either what you mean by "sold", Germans wanted to keep Wielkopolska, the Greater Poland, which is where Polish nationality began. That's why we made an uprising in 1918 to be included in the rest of reborn Poland, my great grandfather fought in it.
      "Isnt it funny how Poland a slavic state...was conquered by a Russian led military coalition"
      ...that included Prussia, which basically means nowadays Germany. Germany was not an ally to us, but an occupier.
      "then about 100 years later Russia steps in to defend the sovereignty of Serbia because "we are the great protectors of the slavic race!"....meanwhile Poland lol..."
      Meanwhile Piłsudski's Poles fought alongside the German and Austro-Hungarian armies against the Russians, what lol? They promised us a sovereign state after the war, but during it we realised that it was an empty promise.
      Not like the British and French care more about us, but at least they are far away and can't exploit us.

    • @ericgulick2749
      @ericgulick2749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@jancyraniak4739 all fair points to be sure! When I say sold out the germans I mean very clearly this: 1 nation was willing to give up territory for a free an independent poland...nomatter how independent it actually was...Germany made it out of german soil in 1916, by 1918...Poland signed a deal with France and great Brittain that gave roughly 40 to 50% of german territory pre 1914 to Poland! Hadnt been on a map in 130ish years?!? Then what do the poles do in 1919? Start ethnically cleansing germans from 40% of their previous territory. Yeah...no $hi# conflict broke out between those 2 nations by 1939! Poland is not blameless, nor is the USSR, of course Germany is as well but they already get 99% of the blame...nothing new to talk about there.
      I've heard the forest slaughtering of polish officers was carried out by the soviets and blamed on the germans, any truth to that? I have no idea but its interesting
      Ww2 started as a border war, Germany wanted to reunify after being carved up and passed around like an apple pie in 1918. Poland was the biggest benefactor of Germanys defeat in 1918...and they were on the same team! Isnt that odd? I understand german Poland and post war Poland are 2 different things...im trying to point that specific thing out.

    • @jancyraniak4739
      @jancyraniak4739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ​@@ericgulick2749 Wait, are you blaming us for kicking out invaders? Don't you know how hard Germany tried to colonize and germanize Polish lands that it took in the partitions? It was hell. Germans asked for resistance. Wonder why there is no such dislike in Poland towards Austrians? I'll tell you why: because they let Poles in their partition have Polish schools and Polish culture, that's why. Till now we remember the Austrian occupiers as benevolent, while German ones as tyrants.
      Yes, Katyń massacre was done by Soviets, discovered by Germans and blamed on the Germans by Soviets. Poles knew the truth all along, we never blamed Germans (except our commie government, but even they knew the truth).
      "Poland was the biggest benefactor of Germanys defeat in 1918...and they were on the same team!"
      Then it shouldn't bother Germans that their friends retreived from them the lands that Germans immoraly occupied :) Germans carved up Poland and then they got offended when Poland recreated herself from those carved-up lands? Yes, that's German attitude. The victim is guilty, because of trying to stand up xD
      Btw. just the same it should not bother us Poles that Lithuanians got Vilnius and Ukrainians got Lviv. Yet there are those in our nations who do. There are Germans who long for Polish lands of Pomerania and Silesia and there are Poles who long for Lithuanian and Ukrainian lands. All of it is a relic of both Germany and Poland pushing eastwards for centuries. Thank God Stalin pushed us closer to starting positions.

  • @aleksandarfrick2656
    @aleksandarfrick2656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Here we are ..still breath in Vojvodina and Belgrade . We have few organizations , try to not forget german language ...greetings to you and for all my fellow brothers and sisters .

  • @nachtjager2467
    @nachtjager2467 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Some of my ancestors came from Oppeln (upper silesia) as well as Königsberg. I always wonder what happend if the Nazis never came to power and the Weimar Republik never disbanded. I hope i can visit the old home some time in the future. I really thank you for treating this topic neutally. I know for most people wich know about the theme it is difficult to talk about it especially east europeans.

    • @Bruh-hq1hx
      @Bruh-hq1hx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @peter schwarz propably not resistance from the reichswehr and alt right groups would be big

    • @tompeled6193
      @tompeled6193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's Opole and Kaliningrad. Stop using Nazi names for occupied territories.

    • @yaldabaoth9235
      @yaldabaoth9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      ​@@tompeled6193 "nazi name" lmao.

    • @wallnusschef6526
      @wallnusschef6526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@tompeled6193 dude what ?

    • @raine12
      @raine12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tompeled6193 nazi names?

  • @charlescole1766
    @charlescole1766 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you so much for making this. This absolutely has to be said.

  • @lottivonhesse9382
    @lottivonhesse9382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I appreciate your understanding of this history - most people do not! Poles say stupid things like, Gdansk was always polish when it was ALWAYS GERMAN! The Germans have remained one of the most pure races.

    • @patriciabrenner9216
      @patriciabrenner9216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh a neo Nazi. Gdansk is now Polish. The Germans are out.

    • @lottivonhesse9382
      @lottivonhesse9382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@patriciabrenner9216 You really are pathetic! By the way, calling somebody a "nazi" is hate speech, since that is a word that dehumanizes the German people! Why don't your comments get deleted, but mine do? Is it because you are polish, and I am a German woman?

    • @lottivonhesse9382
      @lottivonhesse9382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Sancho panza Are you a jealous mongrel?

    • @hrishikeshdas9641
      @hrishikeshdas9641 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lottivonhesse9382 german should stay in peace because german people own more land in america and canada then entire poland country see the ethnicity map of America half of america is german

    • @lottivonhesse9382
      @lottivonhesse9382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hrishikeshdas9641 My reply to you was deleted by youtube - it was filled with info on the atrocities that the poles committed against our people. If you want, I could possibly give you my email address. TH-cam doesn't like me much.

  • @markvolker1145
    @markvolker1145 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My grandfather came from a well todo Prussian family from the Königsberg area. During the war he was stationed in Norway, where he met and married my grandmother. After the war, he was never allowed to return home as the soviets stole East Prussia and evicted the entire German population. My remaining family was robbed of all their possessions and shot or forced west into the remnants of what was left after the allies carved up Germany.

  • @piotrpoleski2650
    @piotrpoleski2650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    So maybe you should add a video about ethnic slavic regions in Germany as well...

    • @anthemsofeurope2408
      @anthemsofeurope2408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Right

    • @kaloyandraganov9462
      @kaloyandraganov9462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Like?

    • @naturlicheweltordnung2609
      @naturlicheweltordnung2609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Are you talking about the Sorbs in Lusatia? Because apart from that there aren't any.

    • @naturlicheweltordnung2609
      @naturlicheweltordnung2609 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *In the Federal Republic of Germany that is

    • @anthemsofeurope2408
      @anthemsofeurope2408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@naturlicheweltordnung2609 The polabian slavs in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Brandenburg, the Sorbs in Sachsen and Brandenburg. They are all slavs.

  • @sywu111
    @sywu111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    In Poland you can find two types of Germans -
    1. Germans which eventually assimilated to Polishness - eg. village of Wilamowice;
    2. Germanized Slavic people - mainly in Opole voivodshop;
    The Opole Germans are especially interesting for their grandparents were Polish-speaking citizens of Germany -
    - and it was why they were left quite intact by Soviet and Polish armies in 1945.
    However in communist Poland they found that capitalistic Western Germany offer better material life,
    so they started to name themselves "Germans", basing on their ancestors' German citizenship.
    Anyway most of those Opole region 'German' councillors have Slavic surnames (fairly germanized however),
    so it begs laughter upon fate of 'Germanness' in modern Poland.

    • @tadeuszkarcz4540
      @tadeuszkarcz4540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Wilamowice settlers came from the Netherlands .

    • @sywu111
      @sywu111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tadeusz Karcz - :-) anyway, there are many toponyms of German origin there in mountainious areas as Limanowa, Szaflary etc.

    • @Userius1
      @Userius1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wilamowice is in the Silesian section, Limanowa and Szaflary are in Podhale, what is the connection? I also wasn't aware that those two towns had German toponyms, although I'm living in the US now in the typical Goral diaspora area *cough* Illinois. Family is from Ludzmierz. From what I learned German influence in Podhale is actually very minor. It's mainly Polish with strong Wlach influence from medieval migrations that lead to shepherding profession.

    • @sywu111
      @sywu111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      User - Wilamowice are in historical region of Lesser Poland;
      Modern Polish voivodships are often only barely matching those historical regions.
      Anyway, Wilamowice and Podhale are today one of the most Polish places in Poland,
      however some toponyms suggest rather Germanic immigration in one point of history.
      I am not much aware what toponyms are really German except few cases -
      - anyway the toponym 'Wilamowice' IS VERY Polish toponym with suffix '-owice' being very typical pathronimic suffix in Slavic countries.
      And non-Slavic names are very common in Poland even today;
      eg. in my family you can find names of Latin, German, Jewish, Slavic, Greek etc. origin.
      - only issue which connects the names is that all of them ARE used in Catholic calendar of saint people or in other way are connected to western Christiandom.

    • @Vitalis94
      @Vitalis94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Didn't know that about Opole Germans. I've always assumed they were some hardcore Germans who wanted to stay, it never really occured to me that hey were just let to stay because of their "Polishness"/"Slavicness". Claims to Opole region before WW2 weren't so unfounded after all.

  • @paulcock8929
    @paulcock8929 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The expelled Germans were replaced by Poles who were expelled from what is now Ukraine. What a mess.

    • @risforrandomandrandomisme762
      @risforrandomandrandomisme762 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Russia killed the ukranians in east ukraine to make place for more russians, russia killed the polish in east poland to make place for more ukranians and in the end russia killed al the germans in east germany to make place for more polish

    • @MegrelMamba
      @MegrelMamba 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@risforrandomandrandomisme762Russians and Germans do a try not to ethnically cleanse everyone around them challenge...

    • @risforrandomandrandomisme762
      @risforrandomandrandomisme762 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MegrelMamba true lol

    • @Petronium123
      @Petronium123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MegrelMamba The Polish were also very much involved in this too, especially when it came to the jews. Think 1946 pogroms for example.

  • @hismajestyrick2184
    @hismajestyrick2184 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Both sides of my mother's family were Volhynian Germans, whose families lived in Northwestern Ukraine before they got deported to East Germany in the late 1940s. I appreciate you making this video, as the history of Eastern Germans is not well-known in the states, so I always find it difficult to explain to my fellow Americans.

  • @tepesobrejac4360
    @tepesobrejac4360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    There was quite a large community of Saxon merchants and craftsmen here in Romania. Most of them fled for West Germany during the cold war, but one of the remaining Saxons became president of Romania in 2014 and is still President, and I must say that he does an excellent job.

    • @tepesobrejac4360
      @tepesobrejac4360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @tiglath pileser
      His ethnicity is German, not nationality. He was born in Romania, raised in Romania and when 99% of Romanian Germans decided to leave Romania for Germany he decided to stay.

    • @tepesobrejac4360
      @tepesobrejac4360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @tiglath pileser
      We elected him for what was inside of his head. I don't why we should've cared that his grand-grand--grand-grand-grand-grand-grandfather came in these lands from Saxony.

    • @tepesobrejac4360
      @tepesobrejac4360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @tiglath pileser
      The fact that he chose to stay here when 99% of Germans decided to leave speaks for itself. And btw, from where did you got that conspiracy theory ?

    • @tepesobrejac4360
      @tepesobrejac4360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @tiglath pileser
      The Transylvanian Saxons for example didn't allied with the Nazis. And btw, Klaus' actions as president speak for himself. If you want I can introduce you to Romanian politics and then you can make a image of our president, but I warn you, it will be a long ride. The Romanian politics are some of world's most complicated.

    • @mariusstoican7653
      @mariusstoican7653 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @tiglath pileser are you a bot?

  • @a.k9802
    @a.k9802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Can you do a video on Pre-Islamic Turkic peoples?

    • @ashrafalsaadoon6120
      @ashrafalsaadoon6120 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      As an Arab I love to see that

    • @a.k9802
      @a.k9802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you bro

    • @HabboCoolcattim
      @HabboCoolcattim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes pls this

    • @AK-sm9ys
      @AK-sm9ys 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Descendants of Genghis Khan

    • @martialkintu2035
      @martialkintu2035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Zantic Trant He never said Islam and it's effects, he said pre-Islamic Turkic peoples.

  • @japaris75
    @japaris75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am 1/8th ethnic German. My German ancestors who originated near Trier (Treves) settled centuries ago in the East. Yet, I do not see the ethnic cleansing of those Germans as a catastrophy. You rightfully so pointed out most of them supported the nazis as they were invading eastern Europe. If you side with nazis and have nazi sympathies, you have to pay the price and so, Justice is served

    • @thomasclerke4725
      @thomasclerke4725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Freedom from debt slavery and Communism was their issue. The banks were starving the Germans.

  • @rongiz14
    @rongiz14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've had the pleasure of visiting multiple lands of the German diaspora. In Hungary you can easily see the German influence, and in Transylvania the land is more German than Romanian, but for the people. In Poland, in the former area of Danzig, everything of that wonderful land is German to its core. The Poles have been good stewards of the place since the expulsion of the Germans. I have heard horror stories from my grandmother of what the Soviets did. An estimated 5 million Germans were killed during the immediate aftermath of the war, to say nothing of those deliberately killed in American and Soviet prison camps. It's a tragedy that will never get the attention it deserves. It was seen as a 'just' genocide if one can call it that.

    • @Drunken_Butterfly_
      @Drunken_Butterfly_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree

    • @user-mh2uj7ns6h
      @user-mh2uj7ns6h 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only 8 million Germans died. And most of that is military casualities made by the German offensive against the Soviet Union. It's mathematically impossible to have 5 million dead just to expulsions as Germany was heavily bomber by the allies from the west

    • @solce809
      @solce809 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Timeline of Gdańsk
      Historical affiliations
      Duchy of Poland 997-1025
      Kingdom of Poland 1025-1227
      Duchy of Pomerelia 1227-1282
      Kingdom of Poland 1282-1308
      Teutonic Order 1308-1410
      Kingdom of Poland 1410-1411
      Teutonic Order 1411-1454
      Kingdom of Poland 1454-1569
      Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth 1569-1793
      Kingdom of Prussia 1793-1807
      Free City of Danzig 1807-1814
      Kingdom of Prussia 1814-1871
      German Empire 1871-1918
      Weimar Germany 1918-1920
      Free City of Danzig 1920-1939
      Nazi Germany 1939-1945
      People's Republic of Poland 1945-1989
      Republic of Poland 1989-present

    • @aleksanderkorecki7887
      @aleksanderkorecki7887 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, Gdańsk was Polish for most of its history.

    • @erichamilton3373
      @erichamilton3373 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The crux of the issue is that large numbers of Germans have historically lived in other political entities in large numbers. Gdańsk had a large to predominant German element since at least the 1400s...while being loyal Polish subjects.

  • @clodoveo-guillermei.destep8522
    @clodoveo-guillermei.destep8522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    The Romanian royal house is German. But not the nobility. The nobility was Romanian, Hungarian, Greek.

  • @Kurrentschrift
    @Kurrentschrift 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    thank you for talking about this topic, it is pretty important for me, as half of my family were expelled from their former homelands, they lived in for houndreds of years, after the second world war. Here in germany, this topic is rarely talked about, even though many germans (about half the gemans i know) have ancestors from these places.

    • @volkhen0
      @volkhen0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Max Zombrex wait, do you know why they were expelled? Have you heard about Hitler or Holocaust? When you loose the war it means you loose. Should not have started the war which killed 6 mln Poles and destroyed half of country.

    • @Kurrentschrift
      @Kurrentschrift 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@volkhen0 dude calm down, obviously i know about the holocaust and the 2. ww, still this is no justification to expell millions of innocents from their homes. One bad thing don't justifies another evil.

    • @conveyor2
      @conveyor2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Marissz: the entire German educational system is a holocaust industry promotor and has been for generations. You don't know that? You know why millions of Poles were expelled by the Soviets? Then there was the Katyn incident...

    • @patriciabrenner9216
      @patriciabrenner9216 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kurrentschrift No German was innocent. None. So this lot paid. GOOD. Germans didn't really pay the price of their crimes.

    • @Kurrentschrift
      @Kurrentschrift 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@patriciabrenner9216 Sure if you say so, i am glad to know that saints like you exist to fairly judge millions of people.

  • @krisjustin3884
    @krisjustin3884 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Prussians were seen as a menace at times even by other Germans. When asking Germans about them, they don’t seem to be missed.

  • @TheMrgrzegorz220
    @TheMrgrzegorz220 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oh poor Germans, poor. Anyway, how did they grew to "nearly 20 million souls" on Slavic/Prussian lands? Spoiler alert - not friendly way ;)

    • @heyrakorzlar
      @heyrakorzlar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hooknose

    • @bababoiemate7062
      @bababoiemate7062 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@heyrakorzlar Kraut

    • @heyrakorzlar
      @heyrakorzlar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bababoiemate7062 Sauerkraut mit Weißwurst, wenn ich bitten darf.

    • @f.n8581
      @f.n8581 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@heyrakorzlarKleiner Alman muck nicht so 😂

  • @luxeproultimate360
    @luxeproultimate360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Germans in western Europe are much more integrated. For instance, being from Alsace, my family's blood is entirely german yet we consider ourselves a French family.

    • @jancyraniak4739
      @jancyraniak4739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Many Germans did come to consider themselves Polish and fought on our side in 1939. A quarter of my high school class had German surnames, all of them being 100% Polish, it was funny.

  • @bacebulgarianmapper1186
    @bacebulgarianmapper1186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Oh my god! The way you pronounced Vojvodina! It killed me from the inside

    • @SWNerd
      @SWNerd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Will u continue the blitzkrieg series?

    • @thebj2701
      @thebj2701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Mysterious Stranger He is Bulgarian, so am I. We say it like "Voivodina"/"Voĭvodina" the pronounciation is the same. I guess the name of the state comes from the word ''voevoda" (that's how we say it in Bulgaria) but if you are Serbian you might be saying it "vojevoda" we just removed the ''j''.

    • @oaka5639
      @oaka5639 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In serbian we say Voyvodina, he might have used the Hungarian pronunciation

    • @nirad8026
      @nirad8026 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oaka5639 Vajdasag in Hungarian

    • @parispersiancat
      @parispersiancat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try and pronounce “Scheveningen”.

  • @traviscarver4708
    @traviscarver4708 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Germany was destroyed by the same people who killed Christ and people who are enemies of the entire human race according to the Bible. 1 Thessalonians 2

    • @bababoiemate7062
      @bababoiemate7062 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      good

    • @traviscarver4708
      @traviscarver4708 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bababoiemate7062
      🥱

    • @Oort-si8ck
      @Oort-si8ck 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree completely. The international jewry are the very victors of the ignoble wwii.

  • @stephanmoore9234
    @stephanmoore9234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My grandfathers family are ethnic germans from the former eastern german provinces of Prussia, which is now part of modern day Poland. I believe my grandfathers grandmother was ethnically Polish. Her last name was Czerwinska and her parents were both Polish, and her husbands name was Arndt and he was ethically German.

    • @jeanvaljean7266
      @jeanvaljean7266 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess your Grandfather's Grandmother was a Masovian woman, ethnical Slavic-Polish and cultural-identitarian Prussian-German

  • @mrbushlied7742
    @mrbushlied7742 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I'm interested in the German population of South Tyrol.

    • @tylerbozinovski4624
      @tylerbozinovski4624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      They're still alive and well, and they have autonomy from the Italians. Bolzano, the capital of South Tyrol, is mostly known as Bozen, its German name.

    • @klausdirr5100
      @klausdirr5100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @tiglath pileser. And that was.....? Please let us know!

    • @tylerbozinovski4624
      @tylerbozinovski4624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @tiglath pileser It wasn't and isn't a shame. Stalin was a murderous tyrant, and Benes was a Germanophobic communist sympathiser.

    • @tylerbozinovski4624
      @tylerbozinovski4624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @tiglath pileser Benes was a left-leaning politician. The coat of arms of his political party even resembled the communist hammer and sickle. I will admit that he wasn't really a communist. I never even said he was. Communist sympathiser does not equate to being a communist.
      And now I understand who you really are. A neo-Stalinist who thinks that torture, mass murder, deportation, and conquest are heroic. You're just as bad as a neo-Nazi. Stalin had no sympathy at all for humanity. He even said so himself. And besides, you really have to get rid of that stupid collective punishment/revenge mentality that's pretty rampant amongst Czechs and other related ethnic groups.
      Deportation/expulsion does not create peace. By that logic, Generalplan Ost would have created peace if it had happened. The only reason there was even any form of "peace" in Central and Eastern Europe is because Stalin installed various puppet governments in the territories occupied by the Red Army, which were forced to unite and be subservient to their Soviet overlords. And the Eastern Bloc was a political war zone for its people, which wanted to be free from Soviet domination. Yugoslavia is proof that war can still happen. The German ethnic boundaries were definitely nowhere near as messy as the Yugoslav ones.
      The Soviets were not peaceful. Don't forget how they divided Poland up with the Nazis. And they actually kept their share after the war, pushing Poland westwards into German territory. That barely even makes any logical sense. That's why Stalin is to blame for this vile ethnic cleansing. He was a greedy and hypocritical imperialist.
      You're using the term "colonisers". It's interesting how you have not mentioned Russia's rampant colonisation at all. And the Germans lived there for several centuries, far longer than the Russians have been living in Siberia. Even if the Germans (along with some other ethnic groups in other parts of Europe) were allowed to stay, there would still be peace. The United Nations had been formed after WWII to maintain international peace, and Germany had already realised the full horrors of the Nazi regime, with the concentration camps. Besides, the Nazis never even managed to get half of the vote in any free and fair German election, so not that many people supported their policies of mass extermination.
      The Germans had lived there in peace for centuries before WWII, and the remaining minorities still live in peace. Deporting them for being a certain ethnicity doesn't sound that much different to the Holocaust, where people were killed for being a certain ethnolinguistic group. Most of them did not care too much for the Nazis, and some were even openly against them. The ethnic situation in the former Yugoslavia is much more of a real problem, where there are disputes everywhere. Meanwhile, the German ethnic area has always been more solid and neater. The only major territorial dispute was West Prussia, and even then, compromises were made between Germany and Poland (until the Nazis showed up, obviously).

    • @ratiomundo6603
      @ratiomundo6603 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @tiglath pileser Peace? Millions of Poles, Germans and other European were killed in the process and you are happy about it? Be ashamed, nobody regardless of heritage did deserve this.

  • @Slovenization
    @Slovenization 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Half of Germany was inhabited by slavic people even Marx and Engels wrote about this. And sooner whole Germany was inhabited by slavic people, there are many toponyms till today who can prove that.

    • @bartholomewlutzuk
      @bartholomewlutzuk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Including Berlin which was founded by Slavs.

  • @JohnDoe-kv2ki
    @JohnDoe-kv2ki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    You said nothing about germanization effort carried out for centuries that resulted in destruction of native Pomeranians who were Slaves and anihilation of Baltic tribes of oryginal Prussians from whom east germans stole their name! Germanization was carried by germans for centuries. For example under Bismarck Polish children were bitten by German teachers for speaking in Polish! Native slavic and Baltic population was forcebly germanized they had not option either forsake their culture or flee! This is the truth!

    • @mitre6923
      @mitre6923 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Doe bitten by their teachers? That sounds like propaganda to dehumanise germans. If u had said hit or slapped... it would be kinda believable but biting is ridiculous. Pls show your source.

    • @mitre6923
      @mitre6923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adam Kasztankiewicz that’s definitely sad to read. Sounds like the sorbians in Saxony, they were also supressed. It definitely took a long time to get where we are now.
      May that never happen again.

    • @btce9739
      @btce9739 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Ostsiedlung

  • @zakleclaire1858
    @zakleclaire1858 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    7:10 I think the term your looking for is "Fifth column"

  • @just-a-silly-goofy-guy
    @just-a-silly-goofy-guy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    They went searching for more *_panzers_*

    • @Miningfox
      @Miningfox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The plural of "Panzer" stays "Panzer".

    • @jameslegrand848
      @jameslegrand848 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They went searching for army group center 😂

    • @ComradeHellas
      @ComradeHellas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nobody gives a fuck about Persia, you are in a wrong comment section Iranian N*tionalist

    • @moralcoach717
      @moralcoach717 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Says a guy who actually has a Veterans day and his government spends more in the military than all other countries combined, and who watches movies about people shooting themselves on a daily basis.....Americans and friends are so peaceful and loving in some contexts though, like this one!

  • @burhan446
    @burhan446 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I thought in communism was everybody was equal?

    • @Vitalis94
      @Vitalis94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Equally fucked, you mean.

  • @michap9839
    @michap9839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Germans lived in Eastern Europe only because Teutonic Order/Crusaders where invited to help Poland conquering non-christian tribes in the north. Most crusaders where Germans and they didn't leave area after process of christianisation

    • @klaudiaw8518
      @klaudiaw8518 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      crossers, or as I like to call them, greedy bastards

    • @longlivepoland6400
      @longlivepoland6400 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really. Teutonic order is only a small part of that

  • @elvenrights2428
    @elvenrights2428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Part of Southern Austria (Carinthia) was Slovene, not German.

  • @petermages9482
    @petermages9482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    If you include Switzerland, you got to include the Netherlands and Flanders as well as Luxenburg.

    • @JtAudio
      @JtAudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Peter Mages the Dutch aren’t exactly ethnically german. However, the Swiss are.

    • @Apophis40K
      @Apophis40K 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JtAudio but there cultures are closly related and aren the french geneticly the same as germany?

    • @JtAudio
      @JtAudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Apophis40K then it becomes an issue of language, the Swiss speak Swiss German which is at least similar enough to understand it.

    • @Apophis40K
      @Apophis40K 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JtAudio well this is in general a realy gray area kind thing becaus the north german language (yes its considered a different language i do not know why) is much closer to dutch (they can speak with little problem to each other most of the time) then to swiss german, austrian german or bavarian. Becaus of the quiet diverce natior of germany (beeing a lot of different nation and all that) this kinda stuff is hard to tell. And culturely the czech are quiet similer the only realy hard border culturly is with france (beeing enemys for so long and that kinda thing)

    • @JtAudio
      @JtAudio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apophis40K I see. Thank you!

  • @Corillo92
    @Corillo92 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Masaman! Great Video! A minor note, before the second world war Tyrolans who were ethnic German were asked by a bipartisan Italiab and German agreement if they would prefer to leave and resettle in German lands or remain. 86% left. After the war many who for example resettled in Prussia or Other newly conquered lands came back to Tyrol ( not everyone tho).

  • @10bkpm
    @10bkpm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    German or more precisely Prussian idea "drang nach Osten" has ended in 1945. Only after many millions died. Germany lost every war in XX century leaving behind dead corpses and ruins. Warsaw is the best example. Germany lost also quite large part of their prewar territories. I think German cars are good, but military strategy .....not really.

    • @DeutschlandMapping
      @DeutschlandMapping 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      German military strategy in general was good. But when you are shit at getting good allies while fighting the whole world not even the best strategy can save you. But in WW2 Hitler's strategies really were bad.

  • @2serveand2protect
    @2serveand2protect 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I could have made a similar video titled "THE DISAPPERANCE OF THE WESTERN SLAVS" with THE SLAVS reaching the Elba river and BEYOND, and they ALL "DISAPPEARED", TOO - guess "thanks" to WHOM? More than 40 great tribes of people - vanished into history books (often not mentioned even there!). The only reason I don't do it, is because I do not believe in anymore FRATRICIDAL WARS (not to mention I don't have time to waste making videos on YT). Europe is divided between LATINS, CELTS, SLAVS, BALTS and GERMANS - we all have our COMMON ROOTS HERE. It's time to put an end to the CONSTANT SHAMING of our people, that is sponsored (MAINLY) BY JEWS, WHO HATE OUR TRADITIONAL (EUROPEAN) CULTURE (or CultureS) and would do anything to destroy it (vide: "mister" soros). The first one who gets a shot at him gets the the title of SAVIOUR OF EUROPE.

    • @Zen-rw2fz
      @Zen-rw2fz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you had me in the first part there.

  • @krzysztofrolbiecki9459
    @krzysztofrolbiecki9459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Let me say a couple of things from a Polish perspective. In my country, German territories ceded from Germany to Poland (aka Recovered Territories) are seen as a kind of recompensation for Polish territories in the east lost to USSR. Other thing is that Stalin wanted to push communist zone of influence westward, hence why Poland got that lands. In this perspective, the expulsion of Germans was the only way to make sure that new, communist Poland would be a stable country, because Germans would make a huge chunk of the population (13 million Germans and 22 million Poles). There would be no stability, if this two ethnicities were put in the same country, not what happened to Polish population during WW2. There is still some fear (but not as strong as it was in the past) that some expelled Heimatvertriebene (as they are called in Germany) might want to reclaim their lost property, which seems to Polish people as a threat, because for us this issue is settled between our governments.

    • @hermannarminius7757
      @hermannarminius7757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      There is actually a fast growing group who want to negotiate about the lost territories. The russains actually wanted to give us back land in the 80's. They had secret talks with the german government to exchange Ostpreußen (Kaliningrad) for 20 billion mark, which for some stupid reson the german gorvernment didnt accept.

    • @christianweibrecht6555
      @christianweibrecht6555 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Poland's population continues to stagnate for another decade, will it be welcoming to immagrants from other European countries?

    • @antiantifa886
      @antiantifa886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Poland 🇵🇱 Germany 🇩🇪 UNITED = 💪

    • @krzysztofrolbiecki9459
      @krzysztofrolbiecki9459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think it's very unlikely that Russia would give Kalilingrad to anyone, as it's the only Russian portin the Baltic Sea that is ice-free all year long.
      +Christian Weibrecht It's slowly happening right now, because many people from the east, mainly Ukraine, come to Poland to work here, study at our universities and it's a good, and we want them to stay as we are culturally similar and in my opinion they would have much trouble in assimilating. Of course, some of Polish people don't like this idea, because "they will steal our jobs etc." (surprising how this rhetoric is similar to the rhetoric sometimes used against Poles living in Western Europe). The main reason why Poland isn't a good place for immigration is that we are relatively poor in comparison to western countries of EU. Unless we start having more babies, the demographic will increase gap and population will gradually decline, and immigration from Poland to UK, Germany etc only made it worse, because they were part of working-age population and as they started to settle in those countries, they are not likely to return to Poland.

    • @Vitalis94
      @Vitalis94 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      +Ian Miles Really? Most Poles I know are more anti-Russian than anti-German. And I'm Polish myself.

  • @JoeSmith-sl9bq
    @JoeSmith-sl9bq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The Germans in Poland did indeed cooperate with the German invaders. I understand the new slavic nation's reluctance to allow large populations of Germans to remain in their lands, as they could always be used as a casus belli by another German nationalist movement in the future. They suffered enough at the hands of that cause to allow it to happen a second time.

    • @alecvladimirnovak2548
      @alecvladimirnovak2548 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Germans from all Eastern European countries cooperated with Nazi Germany.
      And people are surprised so many of them were killed by Partisans and the Soviets.

    • @JoeSmith-sl9bq
      @JoeSmith-sl9bq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      People are not surprised, its just that westerners vape the life of a German above that of their victims. Somehow, they are always the victim.

    • @johnkendall6962
      @johnkendall6962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm from a Mennonite backround and many members of our church were from the parts of Southern Russia. They immigrated to Russia under Cathrine the Great. In WW2 they were persecuted by the Soviets because they were ethnic Germans and by the Germans because they were Russian citizens. Because they were Mennonite they refused to join either army. When the Germans were pushed out and back to Germany Most Mennonites were pushed back with them stranding them there. Many started writing their cousins in the US about their plight. One untold story is how the Mennonite church sent aid to Europe after the war keeping many people from starving. Most European Mennonites immigrated after to Canada because it had a much more open policy at the time

    • @user-uq9fg3lu8n
      @user-uq9fg3lu8n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Understandable, but still not good. I believe 'two wrongs don't make a right' applies here?

    • @aleksanderwierzejski1346
      @aleksanderwierzejski1346 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Poles are "new slavic nation"? ;)

  • @no-one-knows321
    @no-one-knows321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My mother was one of those expelled Germans .
    I'm born in Canada.

  • @zlosliwa_menda
    @zlosliwa_menda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Starting the biggest, genocidal conflict in history has got to have some consequences.

    • @issac2112
      @issac2112 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      WWI's fault

    • @jancyraniak4739
      @jancyraniak4739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@issac2112 Somehow Poles didn't turn genocidial after they were humiliated numerous times. There is something wrong with mentality there. Pride, absolute obedience, whether to Friderick, Adolf or Angela, etc.

    • @igeljaeger
      @igeljaeger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jancyraniak4739 halt deine fresse

  • @TrafficJamForever
    @TrafficJamForever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video about a forgotten topic. Little is known that after WWII aproximately 700.000 Germans lived in Romania. Some of them managed to leave to West-Germany in the 60's. In the 70's and in specialy 80's most of them left Romania and the German governement payed for the Romanian governement between 5K and 15K Deutsch Mark for each individual to be left to leave. This has been documented and researched recently by hystorians. The current president of Romania is Klaus Johannis, German Saxon.

    • @pizdanpula223
      @pizdanpula223 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      60% of that died in WW2 and were fleeing by 1948. Most of them left before 1946

  • @eliteranger1001
    @eliteranger1001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My grandma was a german from silesia. After ww2 almost all her relatives moved to the Hannover area. She then moved to northern Sweden and married a swede.

    • @lottivonhesse9382
      @lottivonhesse9382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I am so glade that she survived - half of the Germans trapped in Prussia, were mass murdered by the damn poles, and or, froze to death, etc. - I am happy for her.

    • @cleightorres3841
      @cleightorres3841 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lottivonhesse9382 perhaps if you folks were less belligerent this would not have happened
      please take your head out of your ass

    • @lottivonhesse9382
      @lottivonhesse9382 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cleightorres3841 Oh yeah - you support the mass murder and torture of GERMAN children and their families! 3.5 million Prussian-Germans were mass murdered and evicted out of THEIR OWN LAND, HOMES, BUSINESSES, and FARMS and you want me to be so civilized about this MASS MURDER and TORTURE od MY GERMAN PEOPLES? ARE YOU CRAzY, or just another German-hatingpole, or slav? You make me want to vomit right on your FACE!

    • @lottivonhesse9382
      @lottivonhesse9382 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cleightorres3841 BTW - GO TO HELL - I hope YOU rot there - you scum!

    • @cleightorres3841
      @cleightorres3841 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lottivonhesse9382 You have such class Typical of a Slavic/Mongol mix trying to tell the world you are Scandinavian/Nordic/Aryan And the Germans DID start the war
      You reap as you sow

  • @ParaMythos
    @ParaMythos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My grandmother is a Volga German, they had lived fairly close to Saratov. I've heard the stories, and read up on a lot of the literature that exists on the Eastern Germans (Unfortunately there is little of it). I'm going to point out a simple fact for that period in European History... it sucked for everyone. Something like 1.3 million Volga Germans lost there lives between 1917 and 1943, and millions more displaced, its a tragedy. However, the Ukrainians, Poles and even the Russians had it pretty bad in the East too. The Volga Germans were targeted by the Bolsheviks not just because they were Germans, but because they were bourgeoisie, they owned land and paid for it like every other land owner in the USSR (WWI and WWII just made things that much worse for them)
    Also wanted to point out to those saying "they deserved what they got". Most of these German exclaves and enclaves were pacifists. in the 1760's (Family left Cologne for the Volga in 1763) the German principalities were constantly caught in the middle of Prussian and Austrian wars of aggression, they fled to Russia (as well as today's Ukraine and Moldova) to avoid a life constantly wary of war (Only to end up constantly being raided by Tatar tribes and ending up with some of them sold off as slaves or brides). Blaming an entire people gets us nowhere, I don't blame the Russians for all the deaths and loss of homes of my people, they were victims of history.

    • @lottivonhesse9382
      @lottivonhesse9382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for sharing your story - I had two uncles of whom lost there homes, and were expelled by the poles, from West Prussia - we also had a German friend of whom was from the eastern lands, and the poles took his father, and murdered him! But, if I tell these stories, the poles report me, and my comments are deleted! Nice to chat with you - Liebe Grusse

  • @local_ITA
    @local_ITA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That is one ethnic cleansing we dont talk about
    But its part of the greater ethnic cleansing of eastern Europe by the goshdarn soviets
    Ask yourself why there are so many Russians in Ukraine,The Baltics just to give a quick example?

    • @metanoian965
      @metanoian965 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why ?

    • @XS-03_Apollo
      @XS-03_Apollo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ... because they are right next to Russia?

    • @ispeaku759
      @ispeaku759 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you study history of how Russians got access to the Black Sea and Baltic Sea you won't ask silly questions

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@XS-03_Apollobecause Russia committed ethnic cleansings and the s errors the regions with Russian settlers.

  • @KeyWestGlenn
    @KeyWestGlenn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The village of Rothenen East Prussen was completely flattened by the war. When the Soviets annexed our land my grandfathers father said screw this we're going to Iowa.

  • @ruzzaruzza
    @ruzzaruzza 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am Czech, born in Czech, and I had a German great-grandmother. Her last name was Schinke. Third of my friends have German-sounding last name. The world is a mess, we have been migrating and intermixing for millennia.
    I like watching your videos, Mamasan.

    • @theenlightenedatheist3953
      @theenlightenedatheist3953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "we have been migrating and intermixing for millennia" - Yes, but not at the scale and speed of today. A German moving to the British Isles is not the same as a Somali moving there :)

    • @hishamalaker491
      @hishamalaker491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theenlightenedatheist3953 What's wrong with Somal- oh yeah that's a reference to the great replacement well if you don't want Blacks to go to your country then how about you don't ruin their countries in the first place.

    • @Occident.
      @Occident. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Germans built every town in what is now Czechia.

    • @tomasvrabec1845
      @tomasvrabec1845 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Occident.lmao they didn't.
      By that standard Slabs built every city in today's east and central Germany - eg Berlin

    • @Wilhelm322
      @Wilhelm322 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tomasvrabec1845 They didn’t build any German City, because those Settlements weren’t Cities.

  • @notfunny8725
    @notfunny8725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I have several German ancestors from Bohemia and eastern Prussia, it was a little bit of a shock when I first did my genealogy and realised their lands didn't even exist anymore. I'm glad to see someone mention it in a sympathetic way, it's horrific that pretty much the entire East German mega-ethnicity wasn't just erased on a political level but genocided out of existence. Actually, they may be the only ethnicity that did not survive the war.

    • @vermull19
      @vermull19 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      First of all, the Bohemian/Czech lands still exist and people too, only instead of the word of Latin origin, the word of Czech origin is used, which has been used since the establishment of the Czech principality in the 10th century. Czechs (Bohemians, Moravians and Silesians) were never Slavs or Germanic, or rather they were always both. Genetically and culturally, the Czechs, even after the expulsion of the so-called Germans and after 40 years of total separation from the Germans and Austrians, are still most similar to the Austrians. The problem is much deeper. At the beginning of the 30 years war, thanks to the defeat of the Bohemian Hussites, the country, which was 90% Hussite, was recatholized, 27 Bohemian lords were executed and many Hussites were expelled, plus the Hussites wrote mainly in Czech, so the Catholic troops, made up mostly of foreigners, immediately burned all the books that were written in Czech for safety, of course many works were saved thanks to Bohemian, Silesian and Moravian Catholics or Recatholics, but anyway it was just the beginning. At the end of the 30 years war only about 30% of the population remained in Bohemia, and loyal Germans and Italians were invited to the country. Anyway, in time they became proud inhabitants of the Czech Crown Lands, but after 150 years Maria Theresa appeared and introduced compulsory German, Czech-speaking officials were replaced by Austrians or German-speaking inhabitants, books, newspapers, proclamations, everything started to be published only in German. After 100 years in the Bohemian Crown Lands, only the villagers in the Midlands spoke Czech. But then the Napoleonic wars started and at the end of them there was an agreement that all "nations" had the right to self-determination. However, a nation was judged by its local language. The problem is that the inhabitants of the Bohemian lands suddenly became part of the German lands, even though they never were in the past, even though they were part of the Holy Roman Empire and later the Habsburg Monarchy. (Evidence can be found in the New Zealand village of Puhoi, which proudly claims to be Bohemian, even though it was founded by German-speaking Bohemians/Czechs in the late 1800s.) And this gave room for a greater spread of the Czech language. Within 50 years, 70% of the population spoke Czech. During that time, Austria-Hungary was established and everything started to return to normal. Those who wanted to study or communicate in Czech could do so. But in order for the popularity of the Czech language to spread so quickly, the pan-Slavic reciprocity began to be used and the more it was pushed on the people, the stronger the resistance of the other group, which clung all the more to Pangermanism. During the First World War, the Czech lands had a great opportunity for independence, so Masaryk, Stefanik and Benes took advantage of it and started to promote Czechoslovakism, which was all the easier because Slovaks could only study in Czech schools, so the revivalists worked together. In any case, the creation of Czechoslovakia and the already entrenched Panslavism and Pangermanism divided the nation into Czechs and Germans by language. The German Czechs began to be disadvantaged just because they spoke German. (The Czechs were sort of curing their complexes against the Austrians, since anyone who continued to speak German was suspected of wanting to annex the country back to Austria, and most simply didn't want to do that.) Therefore, the German-speaking population became increasingly radicalized until they allied with Hitler, who deprived Czechoslovakia of its borderlands and subsequently created the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia. The suffering of the Czech-speaking population created in the people a sheer hatred of the German-speaking traitors (That's how they saw them.), which resulted in the uncontrolled expulsion of their own people into the territory of the foreign state of which they so much wanted to be a part, which of course awakened sheer hatred in the Sudeten people as they were expelled from their native land. So Panslavism gave the Bohemian lands the independence they craved, without it no one from abroad would have listened to Czech politics, but it also divided the nation in two. A Scotsman is also a Scot and not an Englishman, even though he speaks English, the same was true for the Czech lands. Most Czechs didn't wake up from their Panslavism until 1968, when friendly tanks from the East came here and tried to impose Grandfather Frost on us. Some who travelled woke up earlier, but nobody listened to them. One of them was Karel Havlíček Borovský (1821-1856), "I went to Russia as a Slav, I came back as a Czech/Bohemian." "Russians like to call everything Russian Slavic, so that they can then claim that everything Slavic is Russian." But it seems that the world has not yet awakened from this aberration and continues to feed this propaganda, to which amusing revelations are made. For example, the world was so infatuated with Pangermanism that in the 19th century the Swedes discovered that the Codex Gigas, which they took from Prague during the 30 Years' War, was written in Latin and contained the 11th-century Chronicle of Kosmas, which, among other things, tells the legend of the arrival of the Slavic forefather Bohemia, who came to Bohemia sometime long ago.

    • @erichamilton3373
      @erichamilton3373 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nice recapitulation. My great grandmother was from Bohemia/Čechy. She spoke German but within her family were Czech and German speakers. From a town called Podbořany.

    • @leviturner3265
      @leviturner3265 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Königsberg is gone... It is sad that most of Prussia, or at least eastern Prussia is gone. I wish the Soviets would not have taken it.

  • @Mira-K
    @Mira-K 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just to drive home the answer why Germans vanished from Eastern Europe after losing the war: the picture in 5:43 shows German colonists settling in house whose Polish owners were either killed or expelled by Nazis...

    • @geoffreycharles6330
      @geoffreycharles6330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sadly, the right wing doesn't want to talk about that because it values the lifes of Slavs, Jews and other lesser peoples less than they would value the lifes of a German.

    • @DeutschlandMapping
      @DeutschlandMapping 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@geoffreycharles6330 Those people are luckily in the minority. Most Germans just want to get along with all the other Europeans.

  • @Miningfox
    @Miningfox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    My grandma is from East Prussia. ^^

    • @Miningfox
      @Miningfox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      From "Allenstein" - now "Olsztyn" to be exact. I'm very mixed because she has some Polish ancestors and well... my father is from Africa. :D

    • @barbram8001
      @barbram8001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Miningfox You're a "Heinz 57," like so much of the world population.

    • @VerbaleMondo
      @VerbaleMondo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Miningfox Lovely! 🖤

    • @mf7430
      @mf7430 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Miningfox Western Poland*

    • @eltouni
      @eltouni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My family tree is from Prussia. And I live in Finland. Funny I guess.

  • @lissandrafreljord7913
    @lissandrafreljord7913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have a question. Why is the name Prussia associated with Germany when the Old Prussian language is an extinct language part of the Baltic family.

  • @wotanmituns33
    @wotanmituns33 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I'm a Brazilian of German descent. And this map makes so much sense 00:20 seeing that my ancestors migrated to Brazil in the 19th century, mostly from Rheinland-Pfalz, but some from Nordrhein-Westfalen and about 1/8 were Austrian borned in cities that now belong to the Czech Republic. The thing is they spoke German and had all very German names. The Austrian cities they were born were called Tanwald (now Tanvald), Dalschitz (now Dalešice), Reichenau (now Rychnov u Jablonce nad Nisou) and Ober Wittig (now Horni Vitko). The last one being almost at the border with Poland and also close to the modern border of Germany. The more you know...

    • @alfredill88
      @alfredill88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grüß Dich mein lieber Volksdeutscher 🙋🏼‍♂️

  • @Occident.
    @Occident. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Where ever the Germans went, they worked hard and prospered. They brought prosperity to the regions they went too. A very industrious and good calibre people. Im mostly of Gael origin birn in England, but had one great grandmother who was German. From Franconia. Long live the great German nation.

  • @Quarton
    @Quarton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Great video! I'd like to hear more about the Volga Germans. I had a good friend in Argentina whose family were Volga German - who emigrated to Argentina, South America. Germans are a major group here, where I live in the Midwest - my family is partly Swiss-German, Palatinate Germans, who came over here in the 1700's - first to the Lancaster, PA, area.

    • @samueljaworski5737
      @samueljaworski5737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot of South Germans in PA!

    • @DerekWitt
      @DerekWitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My great-great grandparents came from Übermunjor just east of the large bend of the Volga upstream from Saratov and settled in western Kansas in the 1870s.
      I emailed the Bishop of Saratov in 2011. He's also the Bishop of Munich. I asked him whether he knew of any records of the former German colonies in Russia. Unfortunately he said he didn't know. We suspected those records were destroyed by Stalin before or during WWII. I would like to learn more about the Volga Germans.

    • @theresemallory2425
      @theresemallory2425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DerekWitt My ethnic German family (Danube Swabians) fled Romania in 1944. Recently, a friend of my husband, lent us a book entitled "Wir Wollen Deutsch Bleiben" (We Want to Stay German)The Story of the Volga Germans" by George J. Walters.. It was published in English by Halcyon House Publishers in 1982. It may be out of print. But hopefully, you can get a copy of it. It is a very good history of the Volga Germans. Our friend incidentally, was born in North Dakota to German parents who emigrated from Russia.

    • @DerekWitt
      @DerekWitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theresemallory2425 oh wow. I think I have heard about that book.Yeah, I know about many Volga Germans settling throughout the Plains. Hopefully I can find a copy of it down here.
      There's a Volga German Historical Center in Victoria, Kansas (just a few miles east of hays).

    • @omessiasdogol
      @omessiasdogol 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yo también soy descendiente de alemanes del Volga
      ¿De dónde sos?

  • @jhaarbur
    @jhaarbur 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Glad you're back! Here are my regular batch of suggestions for topics:
    1. Belgium (Flanders vs. Wallonia)
    2. Anglo-Corsican Kingdom
    3. Peoples of the Arctic Islands (aka. Who are the northernmost peoples in the world?)
    4. What happened to the Scythians?
    5. Sikhism and Punjab
    6. Bhutan
    7. Forgotten countries of the America's (Beyond Vermont, California, Texas, Hawaii, and the CSA), such as the Republic of Indian Stream, the
    Republic of West Florida, etc. One possibility: what if they survived, and what would the populations be today if they were still around.
    8. Rhode Island
    9. Bermuda
    10. Campione D'Italia-Italy's little known enclave in Switzerland
    11. Best of de facto micronations: The fascinating stories of Sealand, Principality of Seborga, Kingdom of Minerva, Kingdom of Tavolara, etc.
    12. Bir Tahwil-The last unclaimed territory on Earth today where you can still build a country. You could have a field day of scenarios with that one!
    13. Kingdom of Dahomey and modern day Benin
    14. The little known indigenous peoples of the Philippines
    15. Guna people of Panama
    16. Cornwall and Cornish Revival
    17. Would like to re-emphasize: Zoroastranism, Sub-Antarctic Islands, Australian Paraguayans, Australian Aboriginals (include Tasmanian Aboriginals and Palawa Kani language revival) and Maori
    18. Story of Franceville, Vanuatu
    19. Yamana culture and Proto-Indo European language recreation
    20. Pied-Noirs peoples: Then and Now
    21. *Beyond the Roma: Yenish People, Irish Travelers, and lesser known itinerant peoples of the world

    • @tadeuszkarcz4540
      @tadeuszkarcz4540 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      3.Eskimo people
      4.Assimilated into Russian and Ukrainians .

    • @tadeuszkarcz4540
      @tadeuszkarcz4540 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Antonio Perales del Hierro and so what ?

  • @alanpreston2129
    @alanpreston2129 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The German presence in the region of today's northern Poland and Kaliningrad began when a naive Polish prince Konrad I invited the German Teutonic Knights to 'defend and expand Christianity to the east' since that seemed 'the right thing' in the medieval period in Europe, and the Teutonic Knights seemed to him to be a Christian Order rather than a mafia. He was naive because the Teutonic Order decided to stay for good and create their own state fighting everyone around, including the inviter, the Kingdom of Poland. Poland regained its territory eventually, but the Baltic people of Old Prussians were destroyed by the German Teutonic Knights, who stole both the land and the name, used later for the German state. Today's Kaliningrad / Koenighsberg / Krolewiec originally belonged to that Baltic nation of Old Prussians. It is Russian now, just because the Soviet Union took it over after winning World War 2 - as a perfect location for a navy base.

  • @dschaydschee
    @dschaydschee หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a descendant of East Prussian Germans (German citizens since the 19th century) and I have a slavic last name.