Origin of the Finns, Hungarians and other Uralians
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2019
- The Uralian or Uralic peoples, consisting of some incredibly diverse groups such as the Hungarians, Finns, Estonians, Sami (and some other groups you've probably never heard of) have one of the strangest origins of any group in Europe or Asia; the two continents they are divided between.
Uralians are a fascinating tribe that are spread out over many countries and regions in the modern day, with a history unlike any other in Europe of Asia; a unique fusion of Northern Eurasian culture and gene pools. Let me know your thoughts on these Uralic peoples. Thanks for watching!
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genomebiology.biomedcentral.c...
evolutionistx.wordpress.com/2...
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estonianworld.com/life/minori...
indo-european.eu/tag/uralians/
Greetings from Finland to Estonian brothers, Hungarian cousins, distant Uralic relatives and everyone else.
Thank you, greetings from Hungary :)
Greetings from an Aussie Saxonkelt , who has made many friends with crazy Finns . Good people.
Once I ate salmiakki and I have an undying love for finnish people since then. And you have good music too. Love from Hungary xoxo
@tayfun akcan Thats great. My firth name Attila too. Attila Laszló Kovács. In Hungary very popular name is Attila.
Hello finnish brother from a Hungarian sister!
I am American and ran out of money in Morroco. A Finnish 18 wheeler drive gave me a ride back to Paris (from Morroco),
He paid for ferry ticket from Morroco to Europe, covered all my meals and expenses, with a most delicious farewell meal.
All this and more, truly a real Finn, he was.
Peace out
Good to hear this...
American with a name "abdul"
@@brandonbohr.7301 According to 2018 US Census Bureau estimates, California's population was 59.5% White (36.6% Non-Hispanic White), 14.7% Asian, 13.8% Some Other Race, 5.8% Black or African American, 0.8% Native Americans and Alaskan Native, 0.4% Pacific Islander and 5.1% from two or more races.
There's no such thing as an American name. Your name can be Russian, Arabic, Japanese, Chinese even if you're born American.
Lari Muzzarelli True. Native Americans have the only ’real American’ names.
When I asked a finnish man how come that Hungarian and Finnisch is related he answered it goes back to the great Migration in the 4th century. There were two signposts in the middle of Europe. One said north the other south and the ones who could not read went north.
Maybe his ancestors could not read but he inherited a great humor.
As a hungarian,i heard this story as :who wanted to go to ski went north ,the others who wanted to go to swim went south.
4th century is waay too late for a migration. There is already archeological proof of sedentary settlements in Estonia from thousands of years ago and researchers have found that we were along the Baltic coasts and Samis also in Scandinavian peninsula right after the last Ice age ended.. that means around 10 000 years ago. 4th century is even too late in terms of great Indo-European migration, even though, yes, around that time Slavs migrated northwards and Germanic peoples started more permanent settlements in Scandinavia
I am researching a few things about the Sami language. This video has a Sami/English translation, but I don't know how accurate it is.
Can you see if it is true or not? :)
th-cam.com/video/HyRan7oUUQ0/w-d-xo.html
Goddammit.
@@bencepukli9025 ironically Hungary is landlocked and has less sea than Finland
The story of Hungarians is a miracle. Managed to form and keep a country, after the Battle of Pressburg, where the united western army tried to exterminate all the Hungarians, after the devastating mongol attack, where died the half of the Hungarian population, and after the 150 years of Ottoman oppression, etc. And Hungary still has the highest population of all Uralic originated countries!
Yeah, we can be quite resilient.
So true.👍
@@3dfxvoodoocards6 Slavs were already mixed before our arrival, and the rest of that are bullshit
@Janos Musatic nem tudom hol írtam hogy azok volnánk.
Hungarians are Scythian
Hi from a Mari person! Love to Finno-Ugric cousins.
Hi from Hungary
Üdv / terve / tere / [how do you say that in Mari?]
@@user-wc3zi7lh4g Salam! (Yeah, clearly, some Turkic influence there)
My mongoloid bros^^ :D
Hi from Finland!
Despite only making up 13 percent of the Finno-Ugric population, Finns make 50 percent of all memes.
benis :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
I make quite a few memes.
Bojler 😏
fug XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Minä aijon sanoa n-sanan
As a 75% 🇫🇮 25% 🇸🇪 🇺🇸n from the U.P. of Michigan, home to the most 🇫🇮 people outside of the actual country, I find this fascinating. My great, Great grandmother Loviisa Kamppinen lived to be 105 and at the time of her passing in 1966, she was the oldest living Finnish person on earth.
Lutheran’s I presume?
@@aurora3067 Yep
@@jrodagormykid9063
Are you still Finnish? Or are most of the people assimilated white Americans?
Have you retained your Finish identity, is my question. That question goes for the Swedes as well
@@aurora3067 Yes, we are quite Finnish up here in the 906. No one I know speaks the language but I used to love listening to my grandmother and all of her sisters talking bc of the thick Finnish accent mixed with just a little bit of Yooper. Almost all of my relatives had saunas and my dad and grandfather were big into hunting and fishing. The SISU runs strong up here.
@@jrodagormykid9063
Do the Lutheran Churches still draw a crowd in your parts?
Or have the Finnish descendants become completely irreligious?
I spent a week in Budapest in 2002, it is a beautiful city with a beautiful people. I would gladly move to Hungary if I could.
Just don’t think of it if you’re gay. Fidesz party is as rightwing as Putin’s and supports his war against Ukraine. Worst politics in Central Europe thanks to Viktor Orbán, the ‘illiberal democratic leader’ of Hungary.
Please don't want to live here
I don't think you want to
@@siyacer Why is Hungary a bad place to live?
As a hungarian I am sometimes jelous of italians or germans. They have one origin, and a language from the same place. Everyone knows who they really are, including them. And here we are hungarians, a healed wound of a place. A nation with a long history forged from differences. We are stranger for our enemies, stranger for our friends, stranger for our kin and stranger for ourselves. We are the legacy of all the people who have fallen on this bloodstained land. We are not really a homogenous nation. We are all the wounds and offsprings of the land called Charpatian Basin.
True.
@mugur de fluier It does not mean anything who is it named after, you cannot change the facts, you cannot erase history. Hungarians are the mix of all the people who were present in the Charpatian Basin throughout history. Like it or not. You can go cry elswhere.
@mugur de fluier Also there is no such thing as uralic basin.
@SabuPtolemy I did not really think about that, thanks.
@mugur de fluier Oh poor little victims 😑. Nice try. Nationalities did not exist back then as they are existing now, there were no forceful assimilation in the middle ages. Is not it wierd to you that noone teaches this outside of Romania? Go away with your hate speach and propaganda.
Finns: "Ur an alien!"
Hungarians: "No, ur an alien!"
Russians: "Look, calm down guys, Ural aliens, okay?"
Ural-aryans
We're already established that Hungarians come from Mars, anyway.
Lol
Runi you know what Ur in hungarian means? obviously not
@what it means?In greek saur=lizzard
Greetings from Finland! This was really interesting video, thank you.
I was in Slovakia some years ago and when I spoke Finnish with my friend everyone thought we were Hungarians :)
To me we don't sound alike but apparently we do to someone who doesn't understand either language.
Some words are very similar in finnish and hungarian like: Kez=käsi=hand Mennä=menni=go
Were you ok? Most Slovaks hate us Hungarians because we let them steal our land and flag and change its colors.
Bill Csatary
Before hungerians ut was land of slovaks
Funny!
Bill Csatary You Can ask president Putin.He might feel sorry for you and give your some land back in your motherland(Asia).
As a Turk metalhead, god bless Finns that they still stay heavy and make beautiful music with their awesome bands. Amorphis, Sentenced(even they were dissolved) and many more.... God bless you guys keep on rockin!
Cheers.
However, what's with all the deity blessings? Very archaic.
@@raah5583 Haha!
I've heard of alcoholics with hallucinations. Now it's confirmed!
NIGHTWISH FAN HERE >d
@@incumbentvinyl9291 yeah you can't be into God and heavy metal at the same time. Metal is Satan's jazz flute, who is also an archaic entity mind you, but yeah since "metal serves the devil" choose your archaic deity more appropriately next time, Ismail Güler's advocate, you're confusing the sheeple out here. Say something like 'see you in hell' that always makes them think you're cool eventhough you'll be very, very hot there.
🍺⚡️🍺
I like the Finns a lot. I worked with them. They share the same harsh humor with the Dutch, are equally blunt/direct as the Dutch and, as the Dutch, they do as they promise.
SO. TRUE. I'm Dutch and I have a Finnish boyfriend. Finns are such fun people to be around! They may be quiet at first but when they warm up to you they crack jokes all the time.
@Chadwicked B would you mind elaborating on that?
@@ne1745 Yeah, we're the quietest Europeans but when we're drunk, it's a whole different story lol.
@@AimForMyHead81 finns are like that.
Im finnish and i get along with dutch very well they have similar sense of humor and its easy to have intresting conversation with the.
Greetings to my Estonian, Hungarian and other Uralic bros!
im part estonian
@abrrr abrrr Africans and Mongolians are not uralic you idiot
@abrrr abrrr are you stupid?
@abrrr abrrr lol
Thanks but hungarians not cousins with finns and uralians. Hungarians son of the huns and schytians according the newest genetics
research and old cronicle. Our one of the biggest king was Attila the great from the Turul dynasty.
www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/01/19/250688.full.pdf
You know what is really interesting? The Finnish language is pretty much a time capsule for old long gone languages before they separated into distinct separate languages, for example Finnish has many words that are almost exactly the same as the old proto-germanic words they were derived from. Some aren't even used anymore by the modern germanic languages or they've changed to be quite different from the root word. So ironically, Finnish can be used to study proto-germanic, sometimes even better than modern germanic languages. For example, the finnish word for king "kuningas" from proto-germanic "kuninggaz" or the word for "money" which is "raha" that is from a proto-germanic word that originally meant dried animal skin, specifically squirrel pelt/hide, since that was a common trading item.
But old germanic was an indo-european language and finnish is not an indo-european language. How can is that possible?
@@woodpeckerfromspacewoodpec45 Because early proto-Finnic language(s) that would later evolve into modern Finnish, Estonian, Karelian... was/were a lot in contact with proto-Germanic, mainly due to trade. There are a lot of words that are pretty much unchanged from the original proto-Germanic word that are still in use in Finnish today. They can pretty much study the evolution of the Germanic languages through those words and how the languages and their etymologies have evolved after they separated into northern, eastern and western Germanic languages.
@@jokemon9547 Ok. Thanks. :)
Yeah loan words have nothing to do with language families. You can get them from which ever language.
I've read paleolinguists call Finnish a "freezer" as it is very conservative. It has loan words, but they have been slow to change.
@@Aurinkohirvi I didn't mean Finnish is related to Germanic languages, it obviously is not. It is just interesting how the thousand year old words have pretty much been frozen in time in Finnish and have changed very little or not at all over the years, unlike in the different branches of the Germanic languages.
I was always curious about Hungerians origins, and this video was illuminating.
Really appreciate it Mason. Your videos are are ethnographic gems.
One day Masa is going to run out of groups or tribes to talk about, and then he will focus on possible alien life.
Or he can talk about his own background.
He'll make a video about the races of people in stargate such as the jaffa or tollan or satedans or Athosians
Nah they'll always be ethnic groups to talk about
Yeah, I might even start making up people like "Who are the Masamen?" or something stupid like that.
...oh wait
Nate Murdoch: Correct answer is if they run out of it, then they will speak Finnish or Estonian!.. Try to learn Southern-Estonian dialect (it is totally different from even common Estonian language and I barely understand it. For sample an word: 'persevest' which means 'miniskirt' but in Northern-Estonia it means 'asshole'.. 🤣🤣🤣😃😃😘😀😀🤓🤓🤤🤠👾💂♀️💂♂️🖕👆🤘🖐👍
🇫🇮🇫🇮🇫🇮 Finland / Suomi 💕 My family is Finnish 🙂 and the part where you speak of the huge population of Finns around lake Superior and Michigan is spot on. My family lives in the U.P. of Michigan and have lived there since coming to America.
Love this video as I rarely come across any Finnish heritage info. Thanks for sharing 🙂
Greetings from a Hungarian in Ohio.
Wow, you are very pretty. My mom's side was from Michigan, but are Dutch!
I was hoping to find another Finnish Yooper in the comments! 🇫🇮
Huvaa Baava. (My Finnish spelling is almost as good as! my Klingon spelling 🙋).
Have you heard of the Detroit Finnish Summer Camp (Finn Camp) in the southern part of Michigan.
I'm a Finn from LP of Michigan and spent my summers growing up at the Finn Camp. My mother and many other relatives grew up in the UP.
If you are interested in learning about the Finn Camp, please check it out on the web site.
In Rio de janeiro in countryside have some finn immigrants too
Hi from Italy. I have many hungarian friends and i can listen to them talking for hours, even if i do not understand a word. Their language is absolutely lovely and sounds like fairy tales.
I often go by Italians speaking and think it is Hungarian before listening more attentively. There is a similarity in the sound of our otherwise unrelated languages.
My wife is American and she says similar things when I speak Finnish. She asks what English sounds like to me before learning. I said a snake chocking on a potato. Nothing but S sounds and hard clicky K sounds with very flat vowels.
Koszi❤
Hi. I'm Hill Mari. I do believe we must remember our roots and where we all come from. We used to share the common language thousands years ago. And although we have lived apart for ages I hope we aren't aliens to each other.
I appreciate this, just got off from work. Love and respect from Finland.
www.Kaheel7.com
kaksois piste :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Miksi käydä töissä kun kelan lemmikkinä voi vain löhöillä
@@Ashtonlegoguy olis mennyt tuet jos olisin kieltäytynyt XD
@@SixtiesStick oo shit, mulla ei sitä vaaraa ollu mut tarjottiin aivan upee kesäduunikeissi nii lähin omasta tahosta
Ever since I started to watch your videos I have been waiting for this one. I am very grateful.
I am reading a book named "Finno-Ugric Secrets (Soome-Ugri Saladused)" by an estonian writer Art Leete and I am loving it. Thank you for the video! Best wishes to all the relatives out there. Finnish-Estonian
Ayyy eestlane siin
Hats off for you man! You brought to us an amazing video! And it's very correct! +1
This vid has been due for a long time now.
Glad you got around to making it.
glad you got in on that bukkake, lately, I knew you were ready for it, m8
Pomors language is actually pretty interesting. They are descendants of Novgorodians, and they made a new language called Russenorsk, a mix of Russian and Norwegian, because they had a lot of contact with Norwegian traders and merchants.
Russenorsk was never a home language spoken by anyone, it was a pidgin language only used for mercantile contact. Funny detail: Russians speaking this pidgin thought that they spoke some Norwegian and Norwegians thought that they spoke a little Russian...
Novgorod> Moskova
Swedish*
You mean raped by Vikings lol, nice euphemism.
Russenorsk had a very limited area of use in the Kola peninsula. Most of the Pomors, who lived around the White sea, had their own dialects, influenced by local Uralic groups (Karelians in Karelia and Samoyed tribes in Arkhangelsk district and elsewhere).The basis of this language was indeed the northern ancient Russian language(s?) of the Novgorodians.
I am Hungarian on both sides but I did do a DNA test thru ancestry and it reviewed just what you are talking about! My DNA stretches from the English Channel to the Sea of Japan! Russia, Finnish, German. It is amazing since I am tall with blue eyes and light brown hair but one sister and brother are short with blue eyes and dark hair. Also our blood type for the most is AB. Look into blood types also. It will pin point a origin also. My origin according to my blood type is Middle East. Weird hun! Hahahahaha
Well don't take it too seriously
th-cam.com/video/Isa5c1p6aC0/w-d-xo.html
:O
Many of Magyars also came from modern day northeast Afghanistan (Tajikistan).
@@chengezhussaini1464 Yep. I am a Hungarian from the Sekler tribe and they said we have the most Midle-Eastern genes here. Look wise, I look Nordic European with significant Asian facial traits (definitely not ww2 origin).
I am American and Hungarian on one side with ab type lood also
We have to remember that language relative does not always mean that you are genetically relatives. Finno ugric were not nomad people as magyars were. Look old historical maps there you can see from which area magyars originally came.
But genetically Hungarians are more Avars.
I am a Mexican born descent of Uralic and Artic Amerindian people. Estonian, Hungarian, Mordovian, Vepsa are close genetically related to me, but also Siberian, Inuit, Na-Dene y Apache people. As well mixed with Etruscan, Celtic-Roman, Semitic (Jewish), ancient Greek and Iranian people. This is the "advantage" of being born in a New World. May be it explains why I've learnt 6 languages es kicsit magyar nyelvet is. :-) and
Thank you, Mason for this interesting research! Good job ;)
This is one of your best creations Masaman. Your work just keeps on getting better and better.
This was interesting! I am a sami/finnish girl and would like to know more about sami genetics. It would be so awesome if you could make a video about it, or even just add some information about it in some video. 💜
My knowledge of my family is pretty little, because my sami side does not talk about it. They were not allowed to practice their culture and will not talk to me about it... :( Very common for many sami families.
already on the video, genetically sami is 78% west eurasian and 22% east eurasian, finnish is 92% west eurasian and 8% east eurasian.
@@anomalianomali5080 yes but that is only aproximately. Every single finn/sami have different amount of these genes. Some finns might be actually very close to samis or even genetically samis but have lost the samis language and culture tens or hundreds of years ago and speak only finnish.
Actually Norway has got Sami population between 40 000 - 60 000. Sweden 20 000 - 40 000. Finland only 10 000.
🤺☦🇷🇺Dear and beloved Finnics, you are the founders of our Rus nation. You are the descendants of Meshech
This was such an informative and interesting video. I am first generation Polish-American, born and raised in New England. All of my relatives from both my father and mother are Polish, at least four generations back that we know of. So, it was so exciting and fascinating to me, when I discovered I have a 5% Finnish ancestry. I’ve always admired Finland, and am planning to visit soon. It looks absolutely beautiful, and the people seem so friendly, which makes sense since they are voted the happiest country.
As someone who is used to having brutal winter weather, I embrace the cold climate, it feels more invigorating. Our summers here can be hot and humid at times, I wilt and feel awful in this type of climate. However, knowing that there is Finnish DNA in me, it makes me so happy and even more eager to learn the customs and cultures of Finland, our northern cousin. Love and hugs to Finland from New England.! ❤️🤗
Finland is the happiest country because it is very cold and dark, so they drink a lot.
No. You’re Canadian. You’re in Canada. You were born and raised in New Brunswick. You’re confusing the two countries of Canada, where you actually are, with the US.
The British royal family is descended from the royal Polish Piast and Hungarian Arpadhazi dynasties that united.
These people are like Native Americans but traveled in the opposite direction.
not really, natives came from siberia, uralic peoples came from the steppes and ural mountains
@@ok-op8lg But N ultimately comes from Siberia. Ural mountains are our linguistic urheimat, Siberia is our genetic urheimat.
@@finnicpatriot6399 oh, idk. thats what i heard for hungarians but then again were the weirdest one of the group
@@ok-op8lg Hungarians are quite different from other uralics genetically.
@@davidbence485 I think finns are.
Finns are tall with fair skin,blonde hair, blue eyes.
They are quiet, honest, punctual
And peaceloving.
from Mongolia with love
@doctor yksi no Mongolia is altaic with 🇹🇷🇦🇿🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇿🇰🇬❤🇲🇳
@doctor yksi My from is Turkey and We Are Old Brothers Altaic❤Uralic 🇹🇷🇦🇿🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇿🇰🇬🇲🇳🇰🇵🇰🇷🇯🇵❤🇭🇺🇪🇪🇫🇮🐺 King of EuroAsia Tengri Türkü Korusun ❤☝🏼
@@yenidenturktarihtezi hello turcik, uralic, mongolian countries, I’m from Kazakhstan
@@user-ix2yd9ju1m From Turkey 🥰🇹🇷 and Turkey is Turkic state anf the people from Turkey are 60% Real Turks from Anatolia and 30% not real Turks they are Laz,Cerkez,Kurd,Zaza from Anatolia anf 10% other people but not from Anatolia
@@yenidenturktarihtezifunny becouse Turku is a city in finland
What a fantastic video! We need more of stuff like this!
I'm a Russian, but I'm very upset cause millions of Ugors like Chud, Muroma, Meshchera were assimilated by Rus speaking peoples. They lost their nationalities, languages, culture... It was a huge Finno-Ugric speaking community in the central part of Russia. They didn't create a union and they lost their identity. Very sad.
Stalin treated most finno-ugric tribes horribly. Many where sent to concentration camps or executed so their numbers naturally decresed.
Well that's what you so called have historically done, destroy people.
@@Amberussianbeauty mixed
Wow, an honest Russian, shocking.
@@Amberussianbeauty mixed, if you came use this clumsy term.
Masaman, I wanted to compliment you on the excellent work you do.
1. You meter and take care to enunciate clearly, so even if I've been driving I can listen to you and understand you very well. I can always hear your love of the material and passion for learning in your voice, as if you are so eager to share the knowledge with others.
2. Your use of visuals is effective, so if I'm able to watch you at home, my understanding is deeply enriched by what you show.
3. The best thing about your presentations is that they are rich in content, but also so well organized and delivered, that I'm not at a loss or inundated. With you there are no wasteful phrases because every single phrase has worthy content.
You stand out among the myriad of people that post videos on TH-cam, and I hope the audience realizes that although you demonstrate enormous talent, you demonstrate even more research and hard work, all of which speaks to your dedication. You give education, that's the highest praise I can give.
Thank you! I have been waiting you talk about Estonia, and other Uralic groups.
Ya
@@Jboobsi That's how it should be.
@@Jboobsi Nice, wish you the best man :)
Mina ka.
Greetings from Finland! :)
Thank you for spending the time to create and share this content
Excellent! I wish I’d had this video in 1991 when I was an anthro major in college. Thanks so much for the research and graphic blending to make a complex subject understandable to all👏
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I know a hungarian guy who is literally named Atilla. Now that makes completly sence.
Every 2. Hungarian is named Atilla.
The name Attila was introduced into Hungary in the 19th century, becouse of orientalist fashion. It was not used before that. It is also not on the list of most common hungarian names.
The hungarians have nothing to do with the huns.It s just a myth hungarian historics created for the hungarian people,so the can be united under a great hunnic past and a great leader like Attila,and also,so they can claim that the lived in the area before the Magyars migrated there.
@@erickturck4229 I don't know much hungarians, so it was new to me.
@@erickturck4229 Wrong. I am hungarian, and I can tell you Attila is not even amongst the most common names.
Allways a pleasure to watch your videos. Greatings from Portugal.
Thank you for the accurate information about finno-ugric world. Greetings from Estonia!
Can you make a video about the alamannii / swiss people? I think it is a really interesting cultural group differing pretty much from the rest of their people
Thank you so much for this and your channel as a whole, this is a most educational channel indeed, you are a cultural blessing, please, keep up the wonderful job!
This is the video I have waited for so long. Thank you, Masaman.
f*** u
This was an amazing and interesting educational video! Just very speedy. I had to replay it several times. ❤
Thank you for this, from a Sami/Finnish-American. Kiitos!
Nice video!Can you do Bulgaria next?Thank you!
Also this was due for a long time so glad ya finally made it!
Hy from Hungary! :) God bless finnish bros :)
Thanks fellow Uralic sister :)
Hello my friends, we kazakhs also your kinsman
@@user-ek6fl9kh2e Not really
You wish
Технодом Технодом Aren't kazakhs more on the turk ancestry side?
Greetings from Hungary to Khanty-Mansi brothers and to all the Finnish-Ugric family members!
Long live Uralic brotherhood 🇪🇪🇫🇮🇭🇺
@@KosovaliShqiptarNo, Not turan
@@davidrothmayer2440Fino ugrics are not turkic/turan
@@Andrei-ev7du даже точнее часть тюркоязычных это смесь уральцев принявших ислам и новый язык
Definitely one of the interesting groups of people in the world in my opinion. I've studied them, more specifically the Sami since I was about 12 and my dad told me my grandfather was part Sami and I didn't know what it meant at the time.
"They got conquered so hard" is my new favorite line from you. Lol
Been waiting for this for ages ;) Thanks a bunch from a swedish finn, very interesting as always!
I like the way you say the word “Majority” 😀 Greetings from Helsinki!
Very beautiful video, great music choice. Thank you.
Beautiful! I saw many of my suggestions in there, so if you used them, thank you and your welcome at the same time. Since I wrote a list of ideas on another video of yours a day or two ago, I'm going to hold off on my usual list. The only tip I will suggest: Think of areas and peoples that you haven't touched on yet. You've got almost everybody and everything in general, but are there areas or cultures you could cultivate new ideas and videos from...? (Stated rhetorically)
I've been waiting for this episode. Thanks!
Fascinating ! but I need to watch it again, there was a LOT of information. Thanks.
Considering how the languages go, as a finnish person, you can almost understand estonian just by knowing finnish. Not quite but almost, id say as much as to get by in estonia as a tourist.
Also karelian language/languages sound somewhat understandable. Some words are different but mostly you can pick apart details from a sentence even if you wont know the language, just like with eesti keele. Propably works other way around as well.
Fug :D I was waiting you to make this vid for so long. Thanks Mason.
Me too, and he fucking nailed it :D
www.Kaheel7.com
As an Estonian Ive been wait for it too.
Väisänen Benis :D
I visited Finland last year and in my opinion, it is maybe the best country in the world to live in :)
The language is wonderful and I wish I could speak it a bit better than at A1 level... Suomi on ihana!
Also, great to see someone shed a light on the somewhat unknown Uralic people groups in Russia; they deserve more publicity!!
Greetings from Germany
All nordic countries are candidates for the best country in the world to live in. That's the nordic magic. (Except for Sweden, kinda a shithole)
@@someoneinthecrowd4313 🤣
kyllä Suomi on paras. Proud Finn here 🇫🇮💕
Stolz Finnisch ist neben Ungarisch wohl die schwerste Sprache im europäischen Sprachraum.
Mutta eikø Qazaqstan ole paras maa? 🤣🇰🇿
I’m Mongolian actually but my DNA test showed I’m 10% Finnish. I have a natural light brown hair, fair skin and small European nose. Other than that, I look just East-Asian. Love to Finnish people❤️, my whitish distant cousins.
Actually ugric people in northern Siberia have mongolian features.... Look for example Hanti-Mansis
@@harrynewsprite8618 uralic people were all fully asian before some tribes migrated to europes side mixing to europeans. Samoyedic people are the true uralic people.
Finnougrian is half uralic(asian) half north european(white) with bit of indoeuro/iranian mix. Only people who nowadays fit the finnougric box are Sami, mansi and khanty.
So Finns, estonians, karelians, veps, Magyar, komis, mordvins, udmurt, maris etc are in reality only half finnougric there for only quarter or less uralic and these groups were born when finnougric continued to mix to aggricultural Farmer folk in south. Finnish, karelian etc culture is mostly baltic east european not finnougric. Just look compare to slavic. The finnish traditional culture, folk tales, gods, way of living is very similar to slavic not finnougrian. Sami are the real last finnougric in west. Khanty and mansi in east. Finns just talk the language. Nenets samoyed are the true uralic people
@@viso93xsorry but slavic tribes came to north after 800 ad. Not before that. Samis were here long before ugric tribes started to arrive from south and east. Where comes name Suomi/Sami. 400 years ago samis still lived near lake Päijänne. Church books show this. Eastern finnish have more sami blood than westerners. Actually originally finns are tshuds, a tribe living nearby baltic coast. Latvian history archives show that there was also migration from Merja land to west 1500 years ago. So actually the whole northern russia population has common roots. But our culture are definitely nordic not slavic.
@@harrynewsprite8618I did not mean finnic are slavs. I mean finnic people are half some eastern european people related to slavic maybe and only half finnougrian. Its pretty obvious on genetics, mythology, livestyle, clothing and other things. Culture generally. You clearly did not read any of my comments fully because you did tell me a lot same exact things i already said in my comments so you might not understand what im saying and meaning.
We Sami People are the most finno ugric people here in west. More finno ugric than finns in fact. Finnish is mix of finnougric and indo european speaking farmer folk in south of finland not just finnougric.
Yes Sami was was long before in finland before finns and im pretty sure i said that exact thing in my comment earlier. But my sami ancestors were not the first here. Before Sami the north was populated by very different people. The "jatuli" different old european peoples that were very different culture from sami the people that brought the uralic language to finland first. The people in finland before sami probably speaked basque type old european language although maybe some speaked already indo european. Its shown in old place names and some words in Sami and finnish language that here was different language simiar to basque maybe. Sami are the people that uralic came to finland and near areas.
Sami did not start speak uralic from finns. Finns speak uralic because of sami.
The idea that sami got uralic from finns does not make any sense because sami language is much much more uralic than finnish, karelian, estonian etc.
The problem is the "finnougrian" nationalism. Its very much made up power fantasy for the aggricultural "finnougrians".
The name finnougrian does not even make any sense and linguists have started to agree its not really a real branch of language family.
Finno-ugrian is really just mix of uralic samoyedic language, indo european, indoiranian and some basque type influence and words from the earlier people of northern europe.
Meanwhile nenets is mostly uralic and the most uralic.
Sami language is also much much more uralic/"finnougrian" than finnish, estonian karelian etc.
In my opinion the "finnougrians" are just very confused people who have forgotten their many different parts of ancestry. Because finnic farmer folk have forgotten what their white farmer folk ancestors name was they dont know what to identifioitua with.. so they have made up this pretty made up finnougrian nationalistic history and identity.
"Finnougrian" is in reality just a mix of many different cultures, languages, genetics not some one people that has always existed.
First there was uralic people in siberia.
Then some uralic migrated to europes side and some staid in asia side.
The ones that staid became the samoyedic people like nenets. The ones that migrate to europes side mix to european people. Mostly northern old euro ancient folk but also little bit to indo euro and indo iranian from south.
Now you have early finnougrian people like Sami, Khanty and Mansi people. Half asian half white.
Some of these mixed tribes in more southern areas continue more and more mix to indo euro speaking farmer folk south and that results to finns, karelians, estonian, veps, udmurt, mari, komi moksha, mordvin and others like that. They speak uralic but live like indo european farmer folk.
The northern tribes sami, khanty mansi people, stopped mixing to european folk earlier and staid more north asian uralic type longer until modern times started.
What im trying to say is that,
Sami, khanty, mansi people is more finnougric. Finn, karelian, estonian, veps etc is only half finnougric mix of early sami and some indo euro speaking farmer folks from estonia and near areas. This mix happened 3000-2000 years ago south of finland. Finns, bjarnian, karelians the "tsuudi" started to migrate to north to sami land 2000-1500 years ago mostly. Maybe there was some settlements before that but bigger migration started around that time. Entire finland was pretty much just sami before year 500.
Yes i know that actual slavic people came north much later but i was meaning that finns in fact are very much culturally not finnougrian.
Why do you think eastern european people have the almost same mythology, origin stories and gods? Like the highest god is not really finnougrian god but some eastern european god from south. Same thing with old "finnougrian" believes that peple were born from bear pregnating woman. The same exact story is common in lots of eastern european slavic speaking populations. But not in non aggricultural northern finnougrians like Sami. Only sami group that tells that story is very mixed to finns and karelians.
Sami stories and gods are more of siberian type but maybe there is influence also from those earlier peoples stories.
Also the egg hatching world creation story of finnics is from eastern europe. Only the bird changet from Eagle egg to some water bird egg.
The point is that samoyedic people are the real uralic people.
Sami, khanty, mansi people are half uralic.
After that maris, komis, finns, karelians, udmurts, mordvins etc the not so uralic people that continued to speak uralic because it was usefull to speak the northern peoples(sami, khanty, mansi people) language for buying furs, deer belts etc from them. It was very valuable items back then and sami, khanty, mansi mostly lived from hunting, fishing etc back then before the big reindeer hearding boom started.
Sami, khanty, mansi, nenets was the source of those northern valuable materials in trading.
Early finns probably speaked 2 languages. Uralic proto sami and some indo european language. After thousand or so years the 2 languages mixed together creating the finnish, estonian, karelian, veps, and others like that.
When finns and karelians moved towards north to sami lands some lost uralic words came back from sami. Lots of southern sami mixed to in coming finns and karelians.
Unfortunately nationalistic finns want to believe that finns have always existed and lived in finland.
But it is impossible.
Probably lots of typos and hard to understand some parts of this all over the place comment i tried write fast but maybe you understand somewhat now.
Finnic people really need to figure out their identity and different parts of ancestry because this "finnougrian" nationalism is punch of nonsense and confusion mostly.
Maybe find out what the people in Baltia area were called 2000 years ago because then you know the real name of finns, karelians, bjarn, veps, estonian. Well they were called tsuudi, tsude, chude, tsud or something like that but tsuudi is name given by sami and it means stranger, thief or enemy or something like that.
Maybe some other people have mentions of baltian people 2000 years ago with different name. Go figure that.
@@harrynewsprite8618 well now reading my comment that you replied its understandable why you confused my intention. I thought this is other comment chain where i said more things.
But anyway read my other comment i just answered moment ago also if you already did not. I explain there more
Have been waiting for a video about Finno-Ugrics for a while, greetings from Estonia!
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Excellent! Thank you for amazing video!
Very cool, always been a fan of the Finns and Hungarians. A fascinating branch of humanity!
Hungary is a 2000 years nation. ❤
Thnx, I guess we are rather neat.
Excellent video, as i always find on this channel. It's great that how genes mutated, why, if we know, and where, is includedinthis video series, as it is SO interesting, and many TH-cam videos do not contain this information. Either because the creator doesn't know this information or they don't feel it is interesting, or should be included. That's OK, but for those of us that want every detail possible, this channel is best!
Way to merge history and science!
We, Turks support our Magyar brothers! We have deep connections with Magyars. Even the Hungary name comes from On Ogurs a Turkic tribe. I wonder how much the Chuvash language (last Ogurs) and Hungarian language is similar. I hope i can learn both languages in future. 3 of the 7 lords who created the Magyar nation had Turkic names. Sorry for the Ottoman occupation, in my opinion it was a mistake. I wish the best for Magyars and Turkics!
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A big köszönöm for this video, loads of good info
What a coincidence, I was just studying these groups and here comes your video. Thanks.
It's the TH-cam algorithm that suggested this video . Not a coincidence
@@zarathustra423 well I am subscribed but I mean more that he chose to make a video on Uralians and the such right as I had also just chosen to study them.
I have Finnish ethnicity apparently, so I wanted to know a bit more and what the Germanic connection may be. Thanks for putting this video up, it's fascinating
"subtitles Unavailable" is not something expected from your channel, please bring them back as many of us watch all your videos with the sound off and need captioning!! Thank you so much for the great and inspiring work you do!! ♥
Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮 A real smacker of a video 👍
This might be a bit off topic. I am Danish and I have served with Finns in both UN and EU missions. The Finns are silient, though, loyal, hard drinking, hard training fantastic guys, all addicted to sauna and beers! My kind of friends!
Joshinkan - you just described my grandpa lol. We brought the love of the sauna here to the states. My mom said growing up in the U.P. of Michigan that most people had them and still do.
@@sisu4134 I've always wondered if the American Finns are just as sauna-loving drunks as we are in Finland.
BTW, do you celebrate Juhannus? It's a week from now.
Greetings from Kuopio.
mikitz - we don't "celebrate" it here in the states but my family in Finland still send me warm wishes via social media on that day 😊
@@mikitz Finns are not drunks. This is a myth. The recent statistics tell Finland's alcoholconsumption is the 31st place. Forinstance in Europe Moldova is the 1st place and Lithuania the 2nd. Russia on the top as well and many countries before Finland.
@@blackcoffeebeans6100 Just because Finns don't drink as much as e.g. the Russians doesn't really prove they're not drunks. It's not a competition.
Well its an interesting piece as I was curious to know more about origin of Uralic people, post reading an article few months back on possible similarities between Uralic and Dravidian languages ( from South India). If any one can shed more light on this subject will be interesting
This makes perfect sense weather wise. I'm very much Hungarian with my lineage, and I can't stand warm weather at all. But cold weather doesn't bother me that much. Coincidence maybe, but interesting nonetheless.
7:59 Actually Estonia gained their independence too after ww1, in 24th of February 1918, although we lost it before the second one. Aside from that, it was good and educational video
lost independence again? how?
Basically, Russia proposed a pact, which in reality took Estonia's independence. We gained our reindependence in 1992, alongside other Baltic, Caucasian and Middle Asian states
@@fasoooli2751 russia annexd estonia in 1940
@@hung-upear2659 *1991
oh damn i was so lost
i thought you said finland not estonia Xd sorry
Thank you again for a amazing video!
I believe in aliens.. URALIANS
Very interesting. Very well done. So much, so fast it needs to be listened to a number of times; or slowed down.
I appreciate the video greatly!
Nice work man! Always a fascinating educational journey with you. Please keep it up as long as you can.
Hey Masaman, finnish fan here and just wanted you to know that you've really learned the history behind this video. Awesome job, brother!
Mene kirjastoon lukemaan tieteellistä tekstiä aiheesta äläkä usko kaikkea mitä joku mututuntumalla sepittelevä roturealisti netissä väittää totena
@@guidemeChrist Olen samaa mieltä.
Omillakin aivoilla ajatteleminen on sallittua.
@@guidemeChrist Kirjastosta löytyy ihan vitun vanhaa ja pieni määrä tieteellistä kirjallisuutta Siihen mitä internetti antaa sulle käsiin, et kirjastossa pääase käsiin Harvardiin, MIT tai moniin eri korkean tason tavaraa katsomaan tuhansia tieteellisiä paperierita miten Netin kautta voi.
Netti on neutraali teitoverkosto sen käyttäjä määrittää tiedon laadun.
Did he. Maybe he should come to Finland and see how the things really are.
Love this channel, you're a genius!
Love to all Finno-Ugric people from Hungary!
Great video as always thank you Mason! How about a video about the Aromanians? The Romance speakers of the Balkan :D?
Yes that would be interesting. It would show that the Romanians migrated north into Transylvania from the Balkans, therefore they are not native to Transylvania.
nice video like always Finns, Hungarians and other Uralians are unique people having mix of European and Asian even through there some of your video had some mistake put most of your video are amazing (:
The Hungarians have nothing to do with the Uralic peoples. In addition to linguistic affinity, nothing is supported and other linguistic links are forbidden at the Academy.
I'd just like a more precise linguistic comparison, but good video anyways! Having roved around the north of Russia last summer, I found out that most of the local names just north of Moscow are of the native Uralian origin. I also met a Karelian guy whose wife was a proud Pomor so Pomors are probably still a thing there.
Thank you, so much, for your informative video. And I also thank all the people in the comments section. I'm American; but, of Finnish ancestry, on one side of my family. Cool & interesting!
Hey Mason, another excellent video dude. One thing I will bring to attention though is that the Avars, whilst debatebly of Turkic, Iranic or mixed stock, were in the Balkans from around the 500s onwards, well before any Mongol invasion nearly 700 years later. Interestingly, in Turkey they refer to Hungary as Macaristan (Ma-jar-iss-tun), land of the Macars/Magyars, and distinguish the Huns as very much a separate group. 👍
Hungary is Magyarország in hungarian
@@sectorgovernor Why is it called Hungary in many languages 🤔
Awesome video man! My grandfather is from Mordovia and he used to tell me that Mordvins are the descendants of Finns.
Thanks; I have always had a lot of questions about my Finnish ancestry; since I am from the group of Finns in the Lake Superior area and my Grandparents came from Finland.
My maternal grandparents were originally from Arkhangelsk region of Russia. A lot of toponyms there, including their local area, are very Finnic-sounding. Grandfather's native village is called Sárbala. This gives a clue that those areas were previously populated by Uralic peoples, who were later assimilated by Russians. I wonder what would my genetic test reveal.
That area is sometimes called Greater Finland. It has been sometimes actual political and territorial pursuit. The idea is, that all peoples west from Ural mountains to gulf of Bothnia would be under one big country, "Suur Suomi" greater Finland. southern border would be about at the level of gulf of Finland, just north of St Petersburg-Jekaterineburg line.
That region is called "Viena Karjala"
Been waiting for this video! Never knew my ancestors (Hungarians) were Uralic relatives to the Finns until your previous video on the subject. Awesome work
Yevgeniy Banar you’ll forgive me if I trust Massaman more than a random internet troll
still - closest to hungarians are mansi
mayor of Moscow for example
they were also relatives to the nganasan.
@@sodinc I am a Hungarian and my father looked like Putin. They could pass for brothers.
@@BetyarPali russians to the north of moscow (like putin or myself for example) genetically are not different from uralic people (mostly), so it is only a matter of probability
p.s. there is a conspiracy that putin doesn`t exists and it is a group of identically looking people emulating his existence
it is based on a theory that it is impossible for one man to move around so fast, but i think that he just mostly lives in a plane
Nice history lesson. Just recently discovered my Finnish ancestry and deep roots at Laihai in Ostrobothnia area.
Have you heard about the Laihia jokes?
Hello from 3 years in the future! 🤣 I just found this video and it actually answered a COUPLE of questions for me. The first was the results of a DNA test. I was not surprised in the least by the ethnicity results due to a strong family history and the fact that some got off the boat less than 2 generations past. What surprised me and left me with questions was just how strong my Finnish side was. I was raised as an American, obviously, but with mostly Hungarian culture. My grandfather was Hungarian and my grandmother was Swedish and Finnish. When I got the results, I expected that the Hungarian would be the highest percentage, but by far, it was Finnish. I figured that the Swedes must have been genetically Finnish. (And yes, my people are from the UP in MI)I also discovered that my Swedish/Finnish side contained Saami. The whole point of this is that after viewing this, I can now see why the Finnish genes got so much room, as the Finns and Hungarians actually share some base genetics as well as linguistic origins. Very interesting in a personal light! Thank you
My mom’s family is Finnish, so out of curiosity, I took a couple dna tests. Surprisingly, the raw data revealed very strong matches for the Sami region and Russian tribes, including some of the Siberian ones. Estonia wasn’t on my chart. My uncle had the same results.
what do you mean by russian tribes
Do you have any Ukranian blood? Did you notice how dismissingly Ukrainians talk about Russians calling them "finno-ugors", "moksha", "mordva"?
Can I ask what company you used for your DNA testing?
My mom is also Finnish and she got mostly Finnish, some eastern slavic and remote French and sephardi Jewish
That sounds correct.. This is normal Finnish heritage.
Could you add english subtitle to your videos ? (You should know that lot’s of deaf people are watching you.)
@@MichaelTheophilus906 x0.75 speed might help with that.
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@@MT-yd3yc problem solved !!!
Please don't, save the hearing impaired from this anti-science
I find these people fascinating particularly for some reason
My great grandfather who immigrated through Ellis Island and eventually ended up in southern California, trading horses, and his daughter (my grandmother) spoke Magyar and claimed to be Hungarian. I think my grandmother said they lived in the area of Pressburg, which was in Slovakia. In fact when shown a picture of Franz Josef my great-grandfather teared up and said, perhaps in German "mein vater" (spelling?). I'd heard of the linguistic family called finno-ugric but this video explains a lot more. Maybe it went by so fast due to trying to get all that info into a TH-cam time limitation, but I'll have to watch it again to try to pick up more of the information. Thanks!
At the time you are referring to, Slovakia did not exist yet. It was called the Hungarian Kingdome within the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy.
Thanks for showing genes chart of Bashkirs and Volga Tatars. Almost similar to some other Uralic nations (even more than Hungarians). They only separated from other Uralic by language which was brought by turkic conquerors.