I believe the artist was trying to go for a very weird/shocking realistic vibe from that artwork, I personally don't think its badly drawed, but it definately is not everyone's cup of tea
As I was watching your video with earphones in, my cousin comes in, looks at the screen with no context and asks "Why does Superman look like he's gonna rape that kid." Why did they think that was a good idea?
Thank you for sharing that story! That’s what I’m saying.. it’s not even up to interpretation really.... how they thought that cover was appropriate to print is beyond me lol thank for watching and commenting!
Thank you!! Someone who actually understands the backstory behind the creation of Wonder Woman. Too many ignorant people have said I’m reading too much into the WW covers, or that I’m obsessed with male genitalia. You on the other hand, are what I consider to be an intelligent human being lol Thank you for your contribution, and thank you for watching 😊
My pet peeve, guys so ripped, giant and tense that they look like Xtreme scratched them and lit their blood on fire. We need to stop it, the guys look ridiculous so often it's frustrating. They look like the Michelin man mixed with Homo Erectus.
LMAO I couldn’t agree more! I feel like it’s toned down a bit now but in the 90s especially it was everywhere. Not just in comics but in the corny action movies too like Commando, Rambo etc (I actually like those movies sadly ha ha). Seriously, I feel like the 80s and 90s can be called the era of muscles lol
Geekery with Dante D. Lol it's kinda toned down now but still, a lot of guys are still drawn so ripped, if you saw them in real life, they'd look like their mother Shape of Watered a blue whale to give birth to them. Just crazy proportions lol.
I so agree! I cannot believe that was actually printed, but when you think about the music that was being produced at around the same time, I understand why it was printed. Later 90s was the epitome of commercialism, cheese and crap ha ha
Dude - Cap was created using steroids, just renamed to super soldier serum and vita rays. Now, if you follow modern bodybuilding, the bodybuilders of today are pretty unproportional compared to those of the 70s and 80s, so Liefeld could be considered ahead of his time.
During FF story arc in which Sue began to dress as scantily it was pointed out by other members of the FF along with her increasingly aggressive behavior, it turns out she was slowing being possessed by Malice who dressed in a similar fashion all of the time (but with more leather and spikes) when they cured Sue even she remarked that her choice of clothing should have been a clue for the boys .
you seem to be reading into some of these a little too much... a psychologist would say you have some deeply buried problems that you need to address...
seriously, like that wonder woman shark cover, he made such a big deal of that one and im sitting here like "where's the dick?" lol honestly i thought this was going to be about bad artwork, not a bunch of "dick pics"...
either way it was not point to decide whether or not something was or was not sexual, my point was that if you are going to make a video about "bad artwork" in relation to a video about "good artwork", then whats with all the "it looks like dicks artwork"? there is plenty of poorly drawn comic covers out there and he only talked about like 3 of them, the rest were just childish observations of sexually implied art. there is a difference between bad artwork and bad concept, dicklike objects and sexual siutations are indicative of bad concept whereas Rob Liefeld is indicative of bad artwork lmao
Males swimming together nude would not have been seen as a gay thing at the time. Males swimming naked together was just how guys swam a lot of the time, especially when there were no women around (although sometimes school swimming competitions would have males swim naked, even when there were both males and females watching). Males swimming naked together even lasted in some YMCAs up until around the 1970s. It was not considered either gay or erotic. Instead, one might consider it to be a little embarrassing, which is why Superman and Batman are giving each other that look. It's not a "should we really do a gay thing" or "should we do a pedophile thing" kind of question, but "should we actually be embarrassingly naked"?
Oh yeah for sure... this is an tradition going back to the bathing in Roman times... I know that for sure...I was just giving it a twist for humour purposes. Some enjoyed it and some didn’t. Thanks for commenting!
True, the homosexual witch hunt at the time really ruined the innocence of the silver age heroes. The reaction to that was the grimdark comics we got in the modern age that haven't really let up.
Ha ha, I haven’t heard that one.. I actually like that one... yeah makes sense... I actually didn’t mind his work on hawk and dove and his original new mutants run was okay... not the greatest, but tolerable lol
Thank you for subscribing! I really appreciate it. Welcome to the channel and I hope to hear from you on the channel again in the future. Yes, Rob’s work in the 90s was interesting to day the least lol
Geekery with Dante D. Dude forceworks #1 was a stupid "specialcover "with that stupid middle thing that fools out n can never get it back in plus the series sucked there was nothing wrong with avengers west coast
I'm seriously laughing like an idiot because of the covers and the supposed "innuendos" that they had in it! Totally lost it at "GIANT SIZE MAN-THING"!
I have to disagree on some of these, the older books especially. The Rifleman one, that western was a long running show still in syndication now, and it was a father and son family friendly series. The cover looks like an unfortunate accident, no ill intention. The Superman book, yeah, it looks bad to us, but 60 years ago it was just a comic book cover trying to stand out on the magazine racks of grocery stores and newsstands. I really don't think the artists or anyone else involved had pervy intent, but unfortunately people see things differently in our society where even comics can be fetishized. The only comic I'm aware of that does make one think, is Wonder Woman (in the 40s, especially). If she were tied up with her lasso, she'd lose her powers, there was spankings in the books, her creator was an open relationship sort of guy, lived with two women and created the prototype for what became the lie detector. William Marston, Marston's "Wonder Woman" is an early example of bondage themes that were entering popular culture in the 1930s. Physical and mental submission appears again and again throughout Marston's comics work, with Wonder Woman and her criminal opponents frequently being tied up (or otherwise restrained), and her Amazonian sisters engaging in frequent wrestling and bondage play. These elements were softened by later writers of the series, who dropped such characters as the Nazi-like blond female slaver Eviless completely, despite her having formed the original Villainy Inc. of Wonder Woman's enemies (in Wonder Woman#28, the last by Marston.) Though Marston had described female nature as being more capable of submission emotion, in his other writings and interviews, he referred to submission as a noble practice and did not shy away from the sexual implications, saying: "The only hope for peace is to teach people who are full of pep and unbound force to enjoy being bound... Only when the control of self by others is more pleasant than the unbound assertion of self in human relationships can we hope for a stable, peaceful human society... Giving to others, being controlled by them, submitting to other people cannot possibly be enjoyable without a strong erotic element." So, yeah. I believe most covers are bad art or unfortunate accidents, but once in a while there's a William Marston. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moulton_Marston As far as phallic covers go, during the WW2 era, many heroes, male and female were depicted riding bombs, missles or battleship guns. The "Slap a Jap" cover was just DC trying to be patriotic and propaganda at the same time, it was a product of it's time. Remember, 1941 Pearl Harbor, people were pissed and angry at Japan, the government ordered all Japanese American families into camps for the duration of the war, it's sad and unfortunate that it happened, but times have changed. Loony Tunes and Disney made propaganda as well, a lot of it here on YT. Think of those comics during the war, the kids reading them, they gave kids hope that they'd be safe from an enemy they thought could kill them at any time. They are a part of our culture, our history. The little Lulu cover, seriously? The fat kid blew the tires out on the tri-cycle and it's doing a wheelie and she's trying to pedal! Sometimes a comic cover is just a comic cover.
Hi there, thank you for that elaborate comment. I’m very aware of the historical context behind all of these covers and I am very well aware that many of these were not meant to have innuendo or underlying meanings... Times have changed significantly since many of these covers were published and it it can be funny to look at something with today’s standards. Thank you for watching and commenting
Geekery with Dante D. No problem, I went nuts lol, as some comic channels do videos like you have done and have no clue what went on behind the scenes. You got another sub!
Well put me personally. Ive always veiw wonder womans weaknesses to being bound by a man as social commentary about how women were "bound" in that time period by what men thought they should be the whole in the kitchen bare foot and pregnant mentality of old which in my opinion is what lead to the manhating radical feminists we have now.
Just snagging everything you could get off Superdickery or some other tired old list for this aside, I think there's a lot of projection going on with that notion that everything is phallic or sexual.
He also had an inker cleaning up his messy work when he started on new mutants. Somewhere in between 87 and 100, he conned marvel into letting him ink his own work...
I didn't hate your video, that being said you said "she doesn't look comfortable with a torpedo coming at her" I mean who would and theirs not that many ways to draw a torpedo they couldn't draw a giant square coming at her so that one to me was dumb as hell
Ha ha, glad I could give you a laugh! I did kinda of a follow up to this.... check out the channel to see it! Thanks for watching and commenting! Cheers!
The Sue Storm sexy look was due to her Malice persona coming to the forefront. That FF Defalco/Ryan run from the 90's is very underrated. One of my personal all-time favorites.
7:00This looks like a job for Superman!So what do you say kid?Faster than a speeding bullet or Man Of Steel? Horrified kid:Where is Goku when you need him? Superman:Well then, Man Of Steel it is!
I know it's so cool to hate Liefeld...and boy howdy does some of his work deserve the hatred...like the mentioned Cap run....but overall I don't think his work is nearly as bad as the cool, hip, edgy comic book fans like to portray it as. He's a scapegoat. I genuinely enjoy his X-Force and Youngblood work. Honestly, of this list, that Wolverine cover is by far the worst.
I agree with you! I actually don’t hate Liefeld. I like some of the stuff he did, especially in his earlier days. You mentioned some good Liefeld stuff there! The wolverine cover is pretty bad huh? Lol
Geekery with Dante D. Yeah. I'm glad I never saw that Wolverine comic. I like how you make your explanations. They're so hilarious! Keep up the good work, Dante!
Eh, I loved Sue Richards 90s costume. I'm not a fan of looking at Sue as a "mommy figure" as her stories with Black Panther& Namor suggested she isn't receiving enough attention from Reed Richards...and is a very attractive woman too.
I’m glad you liked her new look! It definitely was a change from traditional Sue Richards. I didn’t know about her stories with Black Panther and Namor. I might have to check those out. Thanks!
Geekery with Dante D. Yeah I definitely recommend them. Mainly, because they gave Sue some good depth about her 'almost' flirtatious attitude and some of the tension that causes some of the men that knew how beautiful she truly is. Though they did give her enough loyalty to stay with her husband, there's been many points were she could have easily left Reed Richards( way before they hinted this in Venture Brothers parody many many times). Heck there's even a What If issue where Sue leaves Reed Richards for Namor and he seems cool about it
In all fairness, the problem wasn't with the "Giant Size" books. It's that Conway, Thomas, and Morrow named their creation "Man-Thing". I found myself giggling like a twelve year-old when I heard you say that you're a pretty big fan of the Man-Thing. The name "Man-Thing" is just so inherently phallic that there were going to be problems.
Ha ha I agree... I really do like the character. He is one of my favourites, but they could have given him a better name. I realized after about my saying that I’m a big fan in the video and I walked into that one lol I just left it... people get a good laugh out of it and I’m glad you did too! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Oh for sure! I know there wasn’t any ill intention with the cover, but it’s interesting what you can see when you analyze these covers with varying perspectives. I know in this video I leaned more towards one particular perspective for humour, but I’m aware that not everyone agrees or even finds it funny. Depends on the person I guess. Thanks for leaving a comment!
I’m so happy you like that format. I have done countdowns in the past, and still do. But sometimes this format is way better and I’m happy people like you can appreciate it! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Geekery with Dante D. Yea bro, every time a person I'm subbed to like a comment of mine it make me not wanna Kurt Cobain myself 🇺🇸🤙🏾 The comic was trash 2 btw Ice man was once a bad ass omega level mutant... he's now having trouble fighting 1 guy in football pads
You liked liefeld in the late 80s early 90s because he wasn't doing his own artwork he was being directed panel-by-panel. Marvel had this kid on a leash and the cross hatch shading style with bold borders and shiny muscle definition he was emulating was something that Jim lee made famous and liefeld was the closest to it at the time Marvel execs were so old they didn't know what was going on and could barely tell the difference so liefeld picked up some of the slack because they can't have Jim Lee doing every damn book it was too much. When he broke off and started doing his own shit that's when you really see his true colors shine and it's crap. I believe if it wasn't for crap artists like him stirring up shitted at Marvel we would have had years of good artwork still coming through the nineties instead we had image comic books.
so my comic collection is really weird. it started with just random comics with covers I liked....then I started collecting nothing but bizzar cross overs.....about two years ago now I started collecting specifically comics with awful or just demented cover art. I just wanted to thank you, there's a few here I really need for my collection. If any one has recommendations they would be appreciated
Hey there! I really appreciated your comment. I’m glad I could show you more bizzarre covers to add to your collection. It should like you have very unique tastes, and I think that is super cool. I’m in the process of making another video that relates to this one. Check it out when it comes out! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Geekery with Dante D. ..... I will try an get a little list going issues I think you'll have interest in....some of the cross overs out there are just amazing xmen star trek...or ninja turtle Batman.. ..nothing mashes pop culture together like a comic book.
7:40...do yer homework, Newbie! Thats chuck conners in 'riffleman' tv series. And that was his son in the series. Rumors have it(and i dont know cause never looked into it cause not interested at all) that he did gay porn in the past...fyi. BUT....your right about one thing, one would have to have a 'mind in the gutter' in order to see these things at 1st glance which is a sad thing to be so for our society.
The "Savage Namor" cover accurately depicted the events in the story where The Sub Mariner was possessed by the spirit of the villain who stripped him of his identity! The story went on for a few issues and was drawn by a disciple of the Bill Sienkiewicz style of Expressionistic drawing! I think it ROCKS!
😂 Lmao ha ha I had never seen that one before... that cover is sooo bad. Who is the artist and what were they thinking ha ha reminds me of something Deadpool would do
Geekery with Dante D. The artist was Arthur Suydam. His other art is actually really good and you may know him for his covers on Marvel Zombies which were really good. As for wolverine #60 idk what the hell he was thinking lol
@@garretterickson3991 These artists do get pissed at their bosses( most of which probably couldn't draw a straight line) I bet as in any profession that they will stick it to the man by purposaly drawing something bad..but not enough to get them fired
Dude the second Wonder Woman one had almost no problems. Bondage?! Yeah would’ve shown real shock if she was not tied up. Oh no what’ll happen to her?!
Acthally the Wolverine Revolver cover isn't that bad and Das Pastoras is a very good artist his art even sometimes reminds me of Moebius and Sergio Toppi
Oh man I'm crying laughing at: "He looks like he's not wanting to be threatened by a giant penis looking gun"...as if there's a person out there that does. Highly entertaining video. Love it
Thank you so much! And great suggestion, thanks! I posted a best covers video before I did this one. Check it out on the channel! Thank for watching and commenting!
I remember when super chest Cap comic came out. EVERYBODY in the comic shop was stunned! Then it turned into uncontrollable laughter. 90's comics were the best!
I know right!? I love and hate 90s comics all at the same time. It’s covers like these that make people dismiss the 90s but there was actually some good stuff back then lol
Art in any form should be appreciated, and due credit should be given to the artists for their time and effort. Comic book art should not be taken so seriously. They are not trying to be the next Rembrandt or a Picasso. What according to you is a "bad comic book cover" might be the artist best effort. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
Thanks so much! I’m really happy to have you on the channel and I hope to hear from you again! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching, subscribing, and commenting! Cheers!
That infamous Cap by Liefeld that I tried so hard to erase from memory made me laugh for a solid minute just now. For what it's worth, Frank Quitely drew some of the most horrendous looking X-Men books I've ever seen. Those faces still haunt me.
The 'fat guy' you refer to is Doynie Dickles, GL' s side-kick, played for laughs way back when. For the most part you are spot on with you criticism, but I think you are looking at things with a strong modern slant. The past is never going to hold up to the standards of the present. Trying to understand why something was done the way it was is part of the adventure of history, an adventure I personally love. Thanks for your effort, some of those covers were actually new to me!
Thank you for your comment! I actually really appreciate it and I thought it was well written! I can personally appreciate the feedback you have given. I agree with what you said for the most part. I went a little more modern and cheeky for the video than I normally do, but the response has been decent. People either love it, or call me an immature dick devil lol thank you for you comment and info and I hope to hear from you on the channel again!
Cap never skips chest day
ahmito marler jr or leg day
Ben swolo
Best comment.
It's called pec day
Cap is chest day
Damn that Wolverine really looks like a mutant in that cover lol
Lmao ha ha I know he’s looks like a mutant even by mutant standards. Looks like he spent a little bit too much time around radiation... lol
Ahaahaha!!!
I believe the artist was trying to go for a very weird/shocking realistic vibe from that artwork, I personally don't think its badly drawed, but it definately is not everyone's cup of tea
@@pandinus1377 "drawn"
Mutant sideburns
As I was watching your video with earphones in, my cousin comes in, looks at the screen with no context and asks "Why does Superman look like he's gonna rape that kid." Why did they think that was a good idea?
Thank you for sharing that story! That’s what I’m saying.. it’s not even up to interpretation really.... how they thought that cover was appropriate to print is beyond me lol thank for watching and commenting!
Hah!
That Captain America chest cover has been burned into my mind from when I was 5, and was terrified by it and had nightmares
Lmao ha ha 😂😂 really got a kick from your comment... feel bad that it’s been in your mind since the age of 5 lol thanks for watching and commenting
When I looked that photo in 1week i only trained chest three times in one day
I never thought I would say this but I would like to of had those nightmares.
That Liefeld drawing of Cap was never a Marvel cover. In fact , it was never published by Marvel at all.
I love how you said "I'm not gonna mention the artists name to not embarrass them" then followed by.. This is drawn by Rob Liefield. LMFAO!
Well the dude who made Wonder Woman was into bondage so I'm not surprised
Thank you!! Someone who actually understands the backstory behind the creation of Wonder Woman. Too many ignorant people have said I’m reading too much into the WW covers, or that I’m obsessed with male genitalia. You on the other hand, are what I consider to be an intelligent human being lol Thank you for your contribution, and thank you for watching 😊
Geekery with Dante D. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the early wonder woman covers looked a bit deveaint
Hollywood is (was?) Making a movie on it! Glad someone else mentioned it first though
Booth of those covers were drawn years after Willian Marston (writer) and Harry G Peters ( artist) were dead, so they had nothing to do with them
My pet peeve, guys so ripped, giant and tense that they look like Xtreme scratched them and lit their blood on fire. We need to stop it, the guys look ridiculous so often it's frustrating. They look like the Michelin man mixed with Homo Erectus.
LMAO I couldn’t agree more! I feel like it’s toned down a bit now but in the 90s especially it was everywhere. Not just in comics but in the corny action movies too like Commando, Rambo etc (I actually like those movies sadly ha ha). Seriously, I feel like the 80s and 90s can be called the era of muscles lol
Geekery with Dante D. Lol it's kinda toned down now but still, a lot of guys are still drawn so ripped, if you saw them in real life, they'd look like their mother Shape of Watered a blue whale to give birth to them. Just crazy proportions lol.
The absolute worst has to be that horrendous Captain America #1 by Liefeld! Anyone associated with sending that cover to print should be fired!
I so agree! I cannot believe that was actually printed, but when you think about the music that was being produced at around the same time, I understand why it was printed. Later 90s was the epitome of commercialism, cheese and crap ha ha
Cap looks like on steriods wtf
Dude - Cap was created using steroids, just renamed to super soldier serum and vita rays.
Now, if you follow modern bodybuilding, the bodybuilders of today are pretty unproportional compared to those of the 70s and 80s, so Liefeld could be considered ahead of his time.
Rob Drewry dude, stop trying to justify that monstruosity
Jeff Gunther I met him this summer at the calgary con....spent at least an hour hunting for that issue to get signed but no one had it
During FF story arc in which Sue began to dress as scantily it was pointed out by other members of the FF along with her increasingly aggressive behavior, it turns out she was slowing being possessed by Malice who dressed in a similar fashion all of the time (but with more leather and spikes) when they cured Sue even she remarked that her choice of clothing should have been a clue for the boys .
Oh wow, I didn’t know that. Makes total sense though. Thanks for that interesting tidbit, I enjoyed it!
*R. I. P Stan Lee*
He's a huge fan of giant sized Man-Thing.
Yup, I walked into that one for sure 😂
Dying......
ha!
you seem to be reading into some of these a little too much... a psychologist would say you have some deeply buried problems that you need to address...
I agree. Everything isn't a secret dick
seriously, like that wonder woman shark cover, he made such a big deal of that one and im sitting here like "where's the dick?" lol honestly i thought this was going to be about bad artwork, not a bunch of "dick pics"...
either way it was not point to decide whether or not something was or was not sexual, my point was that if you are going to make a video about "bad artwork" in relation to a video about "good artwork", then whats with all the "it looks like dicks artwork"? there is plenty of poorly drawn comic covers out there and he only talked about like 3 of them, the rest were just childish observations of sexually implied art. there is a difference between bad artwork and bad concept, dicklike objects and sexual siutations are indicative of bad concept whereas Rob Liefeld is indicative of bad artwork lmao
This was the 60's and 70's my man, nearly everything was innuendo!
What are you talking about? These are infamously bad covers, it's obviously not just him 🤣
That Wolverine one though.
Yes!! I only discovered that one when I was doing research for this video... it’s really bad lol thanks for commenting and watching!
I was reminded of the cover art for Mega-Man on the original NES.
Action comics one with the crying kid had me dying
LMAO!!! I know right!? I’m glad you got a laugh out of that! Thanks for commenting!
Usually you see the that cover shared without the speech bubbles taking away any context making it worse.
The Rifleman one was the funniest, because the two actors look like they knew exactly what they were doing, while the cameraman was totally oblivious.
I know right!? Lol
11:53 LMAO WTF???!!!
I know right!? Lol
Ultimate Quicksilver Yep, I had the exact same reaction
Furries in a nutshell
Males swimming together nude would not have been seen as a gay thing at the time. Males swimming naked together was just how guys swam a lot of the time, especially when there were no women around (although sometimes school swimming competitions would have males swim naked, even when there were both males and females watching). Males swimming naked together even lasted in some YMCAs up until around the 1970s. It was not considered either gay or erotic. Instead, one might consider it to be a little embarrassing, which is why Superman and Batman are giving each other that look. It's not a "should we really do a gay thing" or "should we do a pedophile thing" kind of question, but "should we actually be embarrassingly naked"?
Oh yeah for sure... this is an tradition going back to the bathing in Roman times... I know that for sure...I was just giving it a twist for humour purposes. Some enjoyed it and some didn’t. Thanks for commenting!
neat
Embarrassingly naked as in "short dicked superheroes?
True, the homosexual witch hunt at the time really ruined the innocence of the silver age heroes. The reaction to that was the grimdark comics we got in the modern age that haven't really let up.
Did you grow up in Finland? Nude swim meet? In what century was that?
"I'm not gonna mention the artist's names on these." Seconds later mentions artist's name over and over.
Its funny how everyone draws a better Deadpool than the creator himself. 😂
When you got to wonder woman, it sounded like you were the one with the issue amigo...
6:42 oh God I can't breathe🤣🤣
Right on! Glad I could give you a laugh!
When he said 'prepare to cringe' was anyone else thinking I already am mate?
"Rob Lefield has his moments"
Have you ever heard the expression "even a broken clock is right twice a day"?
Ha ha, I haven’t heard that one.. I actually like that one... yeah makes sense... I actually didn’t mind his work on hawk and dove and his original new mutants run was okay... not the greatest, but tolerable lol
New subscriber. Rob's inability to draw muscles during the 90s brought me here.
Thank you for subscribing! I really appreciate it. Welcome to the channel and I hope to hear from you on the channel again in the future. Yes, Rob’s work in the 90s was interesting to day the
least lol
He was partially responsible for Deadpool and the kickass X-Force team, so I forgave his bad art long ago lol.
Geekery with Dante D. Dude forceworks #1 was a stupid "specialcover "with that stupid middle thing that fools out n can never get it back in plus the series sucked there was nothing wrong with avengers west coast
"I'm not going to mention any names..." FIRST COVER:Names artist! LMFAO
I couldn't stop laughing with the cover of the kid hitting with a sausage a thief head.
I know! Lmao that is one of the funniest ones on the list imo. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Rob Liefeld made AI art before AI art was even a thing.
I'm seriously laughing like an idiot because of the covers and the supposed "innuendos" that they had in it! Totally lost it at "GIANT SIZE MAN-THING"!
I know right!? It’s friggin hilarious!!I’m glad I could give you a good laugh! Thanks for wish books and commenting!
The Wolverine one is pure nightmare fuel
Agreed! A lot of people have been saying the same lol
I have to disagree on some of these, the older books especially. The Rifleman one, that western was a long running show still in syndication now, and it was a father and son family friendly series. The cover looks like an unfortunate accident, no ill intention. The Superman book, yeah, it looks bad to us, but 60 years ago it was just a comic book cover trying to stand out on the magazine racks of grocery stores and newsstands. I really don't think the artists or anyone else involved had pervy intent, but unfortunately people see things differently in our society where even comics can be fetishized.
The only comic I'm aware of that does make one think, is Wonder Woman (in the 40s, especially). If she were tied up with her lasso, she'd lose her powers, there was spankings in the books, her creator was an open relationship sort of guy, lived with two women and created the prototype for what became the lie detector.
William Marston, Marston's "Wonder Woman" is an early example of bondage themes that were entering popular culture in the 1930s.
Physical and mental submission appears again and again throughout Marston's comics work, with Wonder Woman and her criminal opponents frequently being tied up (or otherwise restrained), and her Amazonian sisters engaging in frequent wrestling and bondage play. These elements were softened by later writers of the series, who dropped such characters as the Nazi-like blond female slaver Eviless completely, despite her having formed the original Villainy Inc. of Wonder Woman's enemies (in Wonder Woman#28, the last by Marston.)
Though Marston had described female nature as being more capable of submission emotion, in his other writings and interviews, he referred to submission as a noble practice and did not shy away from the sexual implications, saying:
"The only hope for peace is to teach people who are full of pep and unbound force to enjoy being bound... Only when the control of self by others is more pleasant than the unbound assertion of self in human relationships can we hope for a stable, peaceful human society... Giving to others, being controlled by them, submitting to other people cannot possibly be enjoyable without a strong erotic element."
So, yeah. I believe most covers are bad art or unfortunate accidents, but once in a while there's a William Marston.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moulton_Marston
As far as phallic covers go, during the WW2 era, many heroes, male and female were depicted riding bombs, missles or battleship guns.
The "Slap a Jap" cover was just DC trying to be patriotic and propaganda at the same time, it was a product of it's time. Remember, 1941 Pearl Harbor, people were pissed and angry at Japan, the government ordered all Japanese American families into camps for the duration of the war, it's sad and unfortunate that it happened, but times have changed. Loony Tunes and Disney made propaganda as well, a lot of it here on YT.
Think of those comics during the war, the kids reading them, they gave kids hope that they'd be safe from an enemy they thought could kill them at any time. They are a part of our culture, our history.
The little Lulu cover, seriously? The fat kid blew the tires out on the tri-cycle and it's doing a wheelie and she's trying to pedal!
Sometimes a comic cover is just a comic cover.
Hi there, thank you for that elaborate comment. I’m very aware of the historical context behind all of these covers and I am very well aware that many of these were not meant to have innuendo or underlying meanings... Times have changed significantly since many of these covers were published and it it can be funny to look at something with today’s standards. Thank you for watching and commenting
Geekery with Dante D. No problem, I went nuts lol, as some comic channels do videos like you have done and have no clue what went on behind the scenes.
You got another sub!
Well put me personally. Ive always veiw wonder womans weaknesses to being bound by a man as social commentary about how women were "bound" in that time period by what men thought they should be the whole in the kitchen bare foot and pregnant mentality of old which in my opinion is what lead to the manhating radical feminists we have now.
Just snagging everything you could get off Superdickery or some other tired old list for this aside, I think there's a lot of projection going on with that notion that everything is phallic or sexual.
Superdickery is a great word!! I think I’m gonna use that one
RIP Stan Lee
Amen. it sucks him passing to punctuate the malaise action adventure entertainment is going thru
Thumbnail had me in stitches before even clicking 🤣 👍🏾
Right on! 😊 glad I could give you a laugh and glad you liked it. Cheers my man!
Yo! This video is hilarious! Your critiques are on point! What were these artists thinking?! I love this video!
Thank you so much!!! I’m so happy to hear that you found this video both funny and enjoyable! Thanks so much for watching and commenting!!
This is brilliant and made the end of my day total bliss. Thanks for that.
Ha ha thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Rob Liefield is the worst comic book artist imo I don't care if he did the art for the first cable appearance I will not pick up that book
Yeah, a lot of people don’t like him, and with some of the covers he’s done, I can’t blame them entirely lol
Would you pick up the first Deadpool? Lol
Geekery with Dante D. No cause I don't even like deadpool
When Rob first started his art was different, energetic and a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately he hasn’t grown as an artist.
He also had an inker cleaning up his messy work when he started on new mutants. Somewhere in between 87 and 100, he conned marvel into letting him ink his own work...
Man its not intention of the one who drew but the one who interpreted. Because you have this kind of mentality. Whatever you see is porn
I didn't hate your video, that being said you said "she doesn't look comfortable with a torpedo coming at her" I mean who would and theirs not that many ways to draw a torpedo they couldn't draw a giant square coming at her so that one to me was dumb as hell
I can dig that! Thanks for commenting
PixelRelatedismyname I can see that it seems like a bit of a stretch to me personally but I can see what your saying
Omfg this was so funny, please do part 2
Ha ha, glad I could give you a laugh! I did kinda of a follow up to this.... check out the channel to see it! Thanks for watching and commenting! Cheers!
That spanking Superboy cover is hilarious 😂. What a concept.
I know... I was laughing so hard when I saw it ha ha
I know captain america got super serum but damn did he tak steroids after that?
Very likely lol
The Sue Storm sexy look was due to her Malice persona coming to the forefront. That FF Defalco/Ryan run from the 90's is very underrated. One of my personal all-time favorites.
7:00This looks like a job for Superman!So what do you say kid?Faster than a speeding bullet or Man Of Steel?
Horrified kid:Where is Goku when you need him?
Superman:Well then, Man Of Steel it is!
You need to get your mind out of the gutter man!!!
I know it's so cool to hate Liefeld...and boy howdy does some of his work deserve the hatred...like the mentioned Cap run....but overall I don't think his work is nearly as bad as the cool, hip, edgy comic book fans like to portray it as. He's a scapegoat. I genuinely enjoy his X-Force and Youngblood work.
Honestly, of this list, that Wolverine cover is by far the worst.
I agree with you! I actually don’t hate Liefeld. I like some of the stuff he did, especially in his earlier days. You mentioned some good Liefeld stuff there! The wolverine cover is pretty bad huh? Lol
The 2nd one looks as if they put Mermaid Man from SpongBob into a Captain America suit and TRIED to draw a realistic rendition of it.
This is probably the funniest video about comics I've ever seen! When I read the title, Rob Liefield easily comes to mind.
Ha ha! Glad you found it funny! Yes, I think most people think Liefeld, but that wolverine cover... ouch lol
Geekery with Dante D. Yeah. I'm glad I never saw that Wolverine comic. I like how you make your explanations. They're so hilarious! Keep up the good work, Dante!
7:25 now I know what we are ALL thinking, THE RIFLEMAN HAD A COMIC BOOK?
I know right!?
My guy has a fixation
Stretching ... if you're not a pervert, you don't see most that you talking about.
Eh, I loved Sue Richards 90s costume. I'm not a fan of looking at Sue as a "mommy figure" as her stories with Black Panther& Namor suggested she isn't receiving enough attention from Reed Richards...and is a very attractive woman too.
I’m glad you liked her new look! It definitely was a change from traditional Sue Richards. I didn’t know about her stories with Black Panther and Namor. I might have to check those out. Thanks!
Geekery with Dante D. Yeah I definitely recommend them. Mainly, because they gave Sue some good depth about her 'almost' flirtatious attitude and some of the tension that causes some of the men that knew how beautiful she truly is. Though they did give her enough loyalty to stay with her husband, there's been many points were she could have easily left Reed Richards( way before they hinted this in Venture Brothers parody many many times). Heck there's even a What If issue where Sue leaves Reed Richards for Namor and he seems cool about it
In all fairness, the problem wasn't with the "Giant Size" books. It's that Conway, Thomas, and Morrow named their creation "Man-Thing". I found myself giggling like a twelve year-old when I heard you say that you're a pretty big fan of the Man-Thing. The name "Man-Thing" is just so inherently phallic that there were going to be problems.
Ha ha I agree... I really do like the character. He is one of my favourites, but they could have given him a better name. I realized after about my saying that I’m a big fan in the video and I walked into that one lol I just left it... people get a good laugh out of it and I’m glad you did too! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I died at 6:43 😂 wtf were they thinking
I have no idea... I’m wondering that myself! I’m glad I could give you a good laugh ha ha
Geekery with Dante D. *Several good laughs hahaha, good job
Geekery with Dante D. Wtf lol
You have to know context. The Rifleman was based on a TV series about a single father raising his son. The cover was probably culled from an episode.
Oh for sure! I know there wasn’t any ill intention with the cover, but it’s interesting what you can see when you analyze these covers with varying perspectives. I know in this video I leaned more towards one particular perspective for humour, but I’m aware that not everyone agrees or even finds it funny. Depends on the person I guess. Thanks for leaving a comment!
This is why I love rob , he never fails to amuse me
I know right!? Love or hate him, he is still good entertainment lol
Marvel was actually self aware of the Giant-Size Man-Thing title, and kept it on the cover as a joke.
Lol ha ha I actually didn’t even know that! Thanks for that interesting tidbit!
I can`t stand anything by Liefeld! And the handful of copycat artists he spawned.... ugh😒
This guy would be locked up if a therapist showed him cards and asked him what he sees...at least extremely simple sense of humor.
The best part about the whole video is that the covers aren’t in any particular order. I like that format.
I’m so happy you like that format. I have done countdowns in the past, and still do. But sometimes this format is way better and I’m happy people like you can appreciate it! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Did you see some of the modern marvel shit?
The worst of all time is the rebooted iceman #1
Almost made me Kurt Cobain myself
Lol ha ha I really liked this comment! And I googled it. I agree, not the greatest thing in my opinion lol thanks for watching and commenting!
Geekery with Dante D. Yea bro, every time a person I'm subbed to like a comment of mine it make me not wanna Kurt Cobain myself 🇺🇸🤙🏾
The comic was trash 2 btw
Ice man was once a bad ass omega level mutant... he's now having trouble fighting 1 guy in football pads
You liked liefeld in the late 80s early 90s because he wasn't doing his own artwork he was being directed panel-by-panel. Marvel had this kid on a leash and the cross hatch shading style with bold borders and shiny muscle definition he was emulating was something that Jim lee made famous and liefeld was the closest to it at the time Marvel execs were so old they didn't know what was going on and could barely tell the difference so liefeld picked up some of the slack because they can't have Jim Lee doing every damn book it was too much. When he broke off and started doing his own shit that's when you really see his true colors shine and it's crap. I believe if it wasn't for crap artists like him stirring up shitted at Marvel we would have had years of good artwork still coming through the nineties instead we had image comic books.
Hi there! I had no idea about Liefeld’s early days and the tight leash he was on. Thank you for sharing that, I really enjoyed reading it!
I like it was supposed to be "bad covers" but just turned into "sexual innuendo covers"
IMO, Liefeld was big in the 90's because his characters resembled the ones you saw in action movies back then.
Funny enough, I did a video all about Liefeld talking about just that. I couldn’t agree with you more!
I love how you included the Captain America's big chest cover even though it was never published by Marvel.
so my comic collection is really weird. it started with just random comics with covers I liked....then I started collecting nothing but bizzar cross overs.....about two years ago now I started collecting specifically comics with awful or just demented cover art.
I just wanted to thank you, there's a few here I really need for my collection. If any one has recommendations they would be appreciated
Hey there! I really appreciated your comment. I’m glad I could show you more bizzarre covers to add to your collection. It should like you have very unique tastes, and I think that is super cool. I’m in the process of making another video that relates to this one. Check it out when it comes out! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Geekery with Dante D. ..... I will try an get a little list going issues I think you'll have interest in....some of the cross overs out there are just amazing xmen star trek...or ninja turtle Batman.. ..nothing mashes pop culture together like a comic book.
Bill DaGrass Hawking Superior Spider-Man Team up 28.
There are random character head and the tentacles and spider legs just give headaches.
7:40...do yer homework, Newbie! Thats chuck conners in 'riffleman' tv series. And that was his son in the series. Rumors have it(and i dont know cause never looked into it cause not interested at all) that he did gay porn in the past...fyi. BUT....your right about one thing, one would have to have a 'mind in the gutter' in order to see these things at 1st glance which is a sad thing to be so for our society.
8:30...sounds like you are one of the products of our society having a warped way of looking at things😑
9:00 the torpedo says 69
The best thing about a bad cover is that it had to be viewed and approved before being printed.
Multiple firings are in need. 😂
Lmao I so agree with you! 🤣
The "Savage Namor" cover accurately depicted the events in the story where The Sub Mariner was possessed by the spirit of the villain who stripped him of his identity! The story went on for a few issues and was drawn by a disciple of the Bill Sienkiewicz style of Expressionistic drawing! I think it ROCKS!
You forgot Wolverine #60, which is showing Logan making an O- face while driving his claws through someone's head
😂 Lmao ha ha I had never seen that one before... that cover is sooo bad. Who is the artist and what were they thinking ha ha reminds me of something Deadpool would do
Geekery with Dante D. The artist was Arthur Suydam. His other art is actually really good and you may know him for his covers on Marvel Zombies which were really good. As for wolverine #60 idk what the hell he was thinking lol
fawfulmark2 lmao that actually made me laugh, thank you
@@garretterickson3991 These artists do get pissed at their bosses( most of which probably couldn't draw a straight line) I bet as in any profession that they will stick it to the man by purposaly drawing something bad..but not enough to get them fired
Dude the second Wonder Woman one had almost no problems. Bondage?! Yeah would’ve shown real shock if she was not tied up. Oh no what’ll happen to her?!
This video should have been “sexual covers”
Clickbait
Acthally the Wolverine Revolver cover isn't that bad and Das Pastoras is a very good artist his art even sometimes reminds me of Moebius and Sergio Toppi
Oh yeah, you can see the guy has talent, but fans really did not respond well to this particular cover lol
half of these are not bad. U judge too much
Why so many dislikes??.Most of these covers are really strange to say the least..
What can I say? Everyone is a critic lol thanks for commenting!
You should cover some modern ones - Power Girl still gets the Wonder Woman phallic treatment.
Great Suggestion! I will look into that! Thanks
The rapist superman cover--
Boy: "...b-but I poop from there.."
Superman: "Not right now, you don't."
wolverine's "a man no more" cover is an overkill of bad, awful comic book covers.
Oh yeah... I just googled it. That’s rough! Lol
Oh man I'm crying laughing at: "He looks like he's not wanting to be threatened by a giant penis looking gun"...as if there's a person out there that does.
Highly entertaining video. Love it
Lmao ha ha I’m so happy to hear you enjoyed the video thanks for checking it out 😊
Great vid Dante ! How about most iconic covers next ?
Thank you so much! And great suggestion, thanks! I posted a best covers video before I did this one. Check it out on the channel! Thank for watching and commenting!
gosh I love Dante so much, great vid
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for tuning in a commenting positively! 😊
What was the point in giving Sue an uniform like that If she stays invisible most of the time?
I remember when super chest Cap comic came out. EVERYBODY in the comic shop was stunned! Then it turned into uncontrollable laughter. 90's comics were the best!
I know right!? I love and hate 90s comics all at the same time. It’s covers like these that make people dismiss the 90s but there was actually some good stuff back then lol
Art in any form should be appreciated, and due credit should be given to the artists for their time and effort. Comic book art should not be taken so seriously. They are not trying to be the next Rembrandt or a Picasso. What according to you is a "bad comic book cover" might be the artist best effort. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
When I clicked on this, I wasn’t expecting to laugh so hard!
This made my day.👍🏾
Ha ha I’m so happy to hear it! Glad you enjoyed the video and I’m glad I could give you a good laugh!! Thanks for watching and commenting!
This is the first video that I watched from your channel and I'm instantly subscibed dude! Keep it up, you are cool.
Thanks so much! I’m really happy to have you on the channel and I hope to hear from you again! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for watching, subscribing, and commenting! Cheers!
BTW, I have a video idea! You can play the compositions from the Marvel&DC movies with your guitar!
This so mean but so funny
Glad I could give you a laugh 😂
Keep up the good work man, nice contents!
Thank you so much!! I really appreciate you kind words! I hope to hear from you again in the channel. Thank you for watching and commenting!
This guy looks like he just watched jojos bizzar adventure for the first time 5:06
09:50 HOLY DICK SLAP, I had my earphones in and I was dying xD
Ha ha I’m so happy you got a laugh out of that ha ha!! Thanks for commenting!
I’ve never laughed so hard in my life. These comic issues are hilarious 😆
LMAO!! Super happy to hear you enjoyed the video and found it hilarious. Glad I could give you a good laugh! Thanks for watching and commenting!
All those GA comics with Robin and Captain Marvel Jr. pouncing on the villains's butts.
The Riffleman, more like the Woodsman!!!
Lmao!! Exactly!!!
That infamous Cap by Liefeld that I tried so hard to erase from memory made me laugh for a solid minute just now. For what it's worth, Frank Quitely drew some of the most horrendous looking X-Men books I've ever seen. Those faces still haunt me.
Ha ha, glad I could give you a laugh lol a few others mentioned Frank Quietly too and I agree totally!
I quite like that wolverine revolver one it looks dark and gritty
Oh yeah, I realize that some people may like some of these covers and I mean no disrespect to them. Cheers!
Wolverine cover was awesome. Makes him dangerous and unpredictable, like a wild beast.
You have some exciting content. Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much! I appreciate your comment! Thank you for watching and commenting... I love your channel too by the way!
Thank You Sir!!!
The 'fat guy' you refer to is Doynie Dickles, GL' s side-kick, played for laughs way back when. For the most part you are spot on with you criticism, but I think you are looking at things with a strong modern slant. The past is never going to hold up to the standards of the present. Trying to understand why something was done the way it was is part of the adventure of history, an adventure I personally love. Thanks for your effort, some of those covers were actually new to me!
Sheesh! I meant Doybie, not Doynbie! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!
Thank you for your comment! I actually really appreciate it and I thought it was well written! I can personally appreciate the feedback you have given. I agree with what you said for the most part. I went a little more modern and cheeky for the video than I normally do, but the response has been decent. People either love it, or call me an immature dick devil lol thank you for you comment and info and I hope to hear from you on the channel again!
I thought it was Doiby, as in derby?
Dickens, that is!! Doiby Dickens....
John romita jrs art around the 2010s looked so fucking bad lol
I agree! It was rough! Thanks for commenting!
He did X-Men back in the day. Ugh!