Forza Motorsport One Month In: A Complicated Disappointment
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Forza Motorsport continues to be an extremely divisive title, full of endless bugs and performance issues, unpopular game design features, and a multiplayer system that has people like me coming back for more. It's simultaneously disappointing and satisfying.
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No one ever mentions how the engines sound. Not even close to real engines. If you ask me most of them sounds just ridiculous. VERY disappointing.
Was reaaally hoping they would build on Horizon but it seems they took a massive step back.
@@antnation7471st time horizon sounds way way better than the motorsport game😂
Like the car i drove last, the Cevy Camaro 16, sounds like a sewing machine, IF you can hear it. Hard to use manual gearing when other cars are close, because you can’t hear your own engine.
This is a real concern, but there are so many other things wrong with the game that the inboard engine sounds are the least of them.
I feel like most Forza players I know at least have given up on nice sounding cars 😅
I've played it solidly since release. It's so frustrating, so many bugs and random disconnects and shutdowns. BUT, I keep coming back for the 1 good race out of 5. Because when it's working, it works really well.
This next update coming up in a few days is so important. If it dosnt patch and fix at least 90% of it's current issues, I imagine many people won't come back. In all honesty I don't think I will, i just cba to be a beta tester for these greedy assholes who brought out a half baked game after 6 years.
Just being able to get into another race after doing a race would be good.
Yea it’s so bad but multiplayer is fun till it’s not because of the azz ppl I qualify top 5 consistently so that makes it more better if your mid pack then just start from the back
@@boziewz6125 I had to muck around as I could not connect to multiplayer. Changed DNS servers and set static ip on xbox series x. So far I haven't had trouble migrating to the next race but, and there is always a but. When in a party /group (2 people) migrating to the next race usual y fails probably 90% of the time.
Have you seen the coming changelog? Its pennies.
All the bugs really annoy me but the racing I've had on MP has been awesome. When I get some people close to my skill rating we can have some amazing races. But unfortunately the SBMM isn't that great. I'm sitting at 4,952 ATM and a lot of the races I have I just win with 20s+ from the main pack.
Same Here
Not having drift/drag is big issue for me, and its insult to injury that we have parts for it
Pretty much on point for the competitive community. Apart from the fact that aerowash affects cars in all classes, this is a great review
Whats aerowash? Sorry not heard this term berfore. Ive heard of slipstream or drafting as americans call it but not aerowash.
@@markmacken1 aerowash is the loss of downforce for the leading car. Normally irl it affects high downforce cars when they're around 5 meters or less to each other.
In this game, dirty air is almost nonexistent, but aerowash happens within around a second. TLDR: leading car loses insane amounts of downforce with a car following around a second behind. You can imagine that is a bit frustrating and loses seconds of laptime. Top drivers have been complaining about it since launch
Aero wash also leads to accidental dirty racing which is a big no no.
For example you are in second, first is right ahead and third is on your ass somewhat. You take your normal braking point and end up ramming into first as your car suddenly has no grip to take the corner at the speed you are used to
@@albannt4990 Many thanks for your explanation. Just when you think you know everything you learn something brand new. I had no idea anything happened to the lead car. I still dont understand the physics as to how a front car looses downforce if followed closely by a second car, do you?
@@theFORZA66 Forza needs to address much more than this to clean up racing. The slow down penalty system in GT or something similar should be applied, Increase penalties for lap 1 and fixing general understeer physics on all cars.
How to do builders cup efficiently if you’re a online racer:
Difficulty: 1/3 Club
Start: 3rd or anywhere you want as long as you get to 1st before next step
Strategy: get to 1st asap from 3rd (or wherever you choose to start) then give yourself a gap, hit the menu, controller settings, enable the auto drive settings then go and play a fun game or do something else with your time.
Come back in a bit and you’ve finished the race. Keep exiting each race win at the end in order to save progress. If you click next and eventually have a game crash you will lose the progress you’ve made since your last auto save screen.
Hope this helps for anyone body who wants to speed through that rubbish.
Have a gooden
Why would anyone want to do the builder's cup if they have another fun game to play? Why are you people like this?
@@stuartfury3390
Some gamers have multiple games, multiple hardware to play whatever they feel like and check off whatever it is they enjoy doing. People are different and do whatever they want. I just offered some advice to some players that it retains too...
e.g. Players who can run this strategy on a pc or an xbox while they continue some story game or multiplayer on their switch/ps5. Players are all different
I had such high hopes for this game based on the biggest break between games, a full reboot of the franchise, it being next gen console only, and the amount of success Horizon had. But oh boy I never expected this underbaked halfassed mess with the most crashes I've ever seen in a game.
Big update coming soon, let's hope that rescues its potential,however it was almost like they made a game without testing it much.
In terms of motorsport ive only ever played 7 and now this, but compared to racing games as a whole in the past like 4 years, im enjoying motorsport alot more than anything else. Maybe even more than horizon 4. It def has bugs and work needs to be done to it still, but the framework is absolutely there
The single player is abysmal, zero progression and seriously lacking in content. I just finished it this week and it felt unrewarding, un-progressing (yes I know that's not a word hence my point on the solo campaign.), slow grind that was painful to get through. The car building system is bland, the menu's are just awful (STOP USING THE SQUARE SPACE SHIT ALREADY.), you can't even make out the maker's of the aero kits because the square space shit is so small. The pictures of the car's in the menu are just awful at 1080p with no ability to upscale to 4k like in FM7, you can't even see the car when making changes to ie// the hood or wheels as a whole I mean I could go on and on but I think we all get the point. This game was a rushed product it's more like they spent 6 months on the game and not 6 years. The game is just in a truly dreadful state atm, the one bright side is the mp, when it works the racing in general has been great but other than that this game is a 4/10 in my opinion, nothing new, just a same product for a new age. I will just say this, a game that is as far along in this market should have soft body damage already, they have done absolutely nothing in this regard so when two players hit it's like two bricks colliding and if nothing changes this is my last Forza, I am not gonna pay for a product that doesn't change and just keeps regurgitating the same BS over and over and expect it to stick!
I'm already completely done with this game until it's properly fixed. Nonstop progress loss in the career. While we're there, the career is dog shit. Constant soft-locking when you try to put tunes on a car. Constant soft-locks if you qualify on pole. Horrendous AI. Weird graphics. Stupid car leveling system.
So disappointed. At its core, when it's working, it's fun and I enjoy it, but it's just not worth it when I soft-lock every couple of races.
I swear that the AI in this game was trained on the worst online racing from Forza 7.
After getting rammed off the track by an AI today, I found myself thinking the same thing
I hope this game goes on sale soon.
I've not played Forza since FM3! but this game really felt bare bones and rather shoddy. The Touring Car Hopper is the thing that saved the game for me, wheras the single player and car levelling grind is utterly mindnumbing.
The player matching is broken too. There always seems to be a couple of drivers that are several seconds a lap faster than the rest of us chumps in every lobby. The safety rating system is a joke as well.
Multiplayer ha been unexpectedly fun when it works also i'm on the same page about the grinding on career mode. i just played a bit of career this week and the constant having to skip practice on a car i don't really want to drive felt overwhelmingly boring and only after only 30 minutes of actual driving minus waiting for all the UI elements and cinematics before racing.
FH5 has hardly been 'pulled from the grave'. Its more like the Devs went on an 18 month vacation and came back to pick up on updates and adding anything new to the game that was completely missing from its release. But of course with standards being in absolute freefall. Doing the absolute bare minimum for releasing a sequel 2 years after its launch is a praiseworthy achievement.
It seems like someone previously leaked Forza gameplay like a mobile game... and it turns out it's true that Forza builds from the ground like a mobile game.😢
I largely agree. When you take some time to think about it, it is amazing that they released it after so many years in uch a poor state. But on the other hand, I have enjoyed my time in the game more than ever before in a Forza Motorsport game. I once had a multiplayer lobby where it took so long for it to start, that I was the only one left! 🙂
I hope Turn 10 addresses the driver ranking system, because the bones are there it's just not working properly. I ended up S rated with 4070 out of 5000 skill rating right after the intro races and I get murdered in basically every single race. Nobody should have a 4000+ skill rating after 3 or 4 races and 4000+ skill S rated drivers shouldn't be in splits with people who overtake by pit maneuvering or dive bombing.
Career mode is definitely odd.
It seems to lack variety. It got so stagnant that I ended up listening to some audio books while playing the career mode.
Like wtf, it would have not taken much to make things more interesting.
"From the ground up", turn 10 lies
The fact turn10 is cycling back through the exact same set of races for the GT and TC series this month is just straight up lazy, if this continues next month then there really is no hope for this game
My biggest issue is leveling up a car, it takes way too long, it’d be a little better if you could take any car into career mode but it’s car specific & on top of that you have to unlock all of them which again takes way too long.
Man I keep trying to tell people, if you like single player and want to race against competent AI, iRacing has you covered for that too. You can choose a difficulty slider to have all types of skill levels in the race, you can choose time of day, passage, cars used, etc. It is HIGHLY customizable as it always has been since it's implementation. The AI will not only fight you but they will show you how to actually race on the track and turn you into a top split driver if you have the skill for it. If you're looking for the best single player experience, that trophy still goes to iRacing and pretty much no other game comes close right now other than GT7 with sophie.
For a man that watched all of the videos that came out before the release and turn 10 presentations, and imagine my amaze when i saw them using a blind man driving/gaming on a controler!!! And it shows how much they worked on the handling physics!!! But nothing prepared me for the horrible mess that was about to be released!!! Bad carreer mode, awful multiplayer system when it alows everyone to crash on to you...and you get the penalties...even worse rating system...few tracks (i already finished with much suffering...because of the inginite loading screens), screnn flickerings, bad frame rates...to sum up...a unfinished game!!! Disapointment...is what a call this game....a disapointment
Yep. The multiplayer is amazing and redeems a lot of things. The safety and rating system does need work, but I had AMAZING races around me.
Even starting from the back or midfield, most people genuinely try to avoid contact or pull out from bumps and taps as to not spin someone around. You will always have 1 or 2 asshats in there, but such is online multiplayer life I guess. Even in S and A rating.
thats because the game doesn't have a skill based matchmaking, which it desperately needs. Why make a ranking system when the matchmaking is completely random? Separate the people who wan't to race dirty from the people who really want to race, and from the people who just don't have the skill to do it and just wanna spend some time driving
Well, Turn 10 actually nailed the most important feature in a racing game, the racing and the physics, it sucks that the game fell in the same trap of modern gaming, when the date is due you have to release it no matter what, which causes this whole debacle online because of the state of the game but the fundamentals are there so the future will be very bright for this game.
They delayed the game for almost an entire year, just like Halo Infinite, leading to 4 EXTRA years of dev time, all to fail on every front and have less/be worse than FM7.
The Builders Cup is even more of a grind because sometimes the game doesn't record your progress, and you have to play the same race again. Sometimes 2 races in a row fail to register.
And it seems you can't even play single player when there are synchronization issues...
Yeah,many bags and crashes the game but we have one more problem:r8 and golf overly fast-its very bad idea
Just have open lobbies for each class. The limited lobbies each week are dumb af
I'm not a massive fan of the physics, I think they are sliding way too much and a lot of it just feels fake, but I could deal with that if I just treat it as a game to play with friends but in a group of 4 we can basically not do a race together, at least one of us will inevitably crash or be stuck in a menu they need to alt f4 out of. The racing experience is a solid 6/10, but a 6/10 is to me not worth suffering through this mess to me.
Great vudeim about the "long long it had been in development' there has a misconception that the game was made in 6 years, it wasnt
It is people that are confusing the years that FM7 with the actual year the new game development started
The development started in 2019, hell, that trailer in 2020 coud be them announcing that had started development and not a "work in progress" trailer
That said, i agree with most of your points and hope they update the game
Vudeim
Yeah true, still longer than before and received a delay, so it doesn't excuse anything
The game alienates the Horizon players and doesn't attract the sim racers. It has too much understeer built into it and if you don't have Forza Tune Pro, you'll spend days fiddling around with your car just to try to get it to mildly rotate. I hate it. I can't wait to play it again.
just commenting off the title, and i couldnt agree more. i wanted to like this game, i tried so hard. maybe in a year i'll come back.
The career mode is very basic and very boring. There’s really nothing special about it. I don’t really feel any accomplishment from finishing the series. Just relief that it’s done before the game can crash or something forcing me to redo a race.
Maybe a bigger track list would make it feel less grindy. The terrible AI don’t help either especially with the Horizon nonsense of everyone behind is slow, that one car in front is Verstappen X Hamilton X Schumacher
What they've done is taken the career mode from FM7 and downgraded it and then slapped this in theory good but in practice half-baked and frustrating carpg system on top. As you say, you don't feel like you've accomplished anything at all. And that's what a career is all about, isn't it?
@@benn8793 i feel like a large part is that there is literally no reward for winning either the race or the series, credits or car wise. I just went from last to first on 7/8 difficulty. Why is my prize…checks notes…an extra 2 grand. Gee thanks. It feels like the Horizon route of everyone’s a winner. First second, 6th. All the same except for a tiny little trophy icon in the menu.
Where can I see the full patch notes? The short list doesn't tell me enough.
This game is the worst in the series for me, because it doesn't even run on my PC. Spent a month back and forth in a support ticket trying to fix it but I was never able to get further than the Hakone demo race before the game or my PC crashed.
I’m not touching the game until they fix manual shifting. It’s a chore to play it as is.
I feel bad for people that were anticipating this. All your points are valid. For me, it’s the slidy car physics that are a deal breaker. Now that GT7 has added Sophy 2.0 for offline players (plus weekly challenges/new content) it makes buying a PS5 and GT7 pretty compelling. I’m certainly enjoying it.
Playing GT7 now and got 100 hours in it and there are still races that I did not completed. There are way more content for single-layer than in FM 8 and in its current state multiplayer is far better experience than in FM as there is less rammers in higher driver and safety ratings.
Yeah, it’s a tough one. Most of the hasn’t been improved upon from previous titles or is WORSE. But for online racing when it works, it’s pretty good. Ran our second round of GR86 Cup last night and started 40 minutes behind schedule because of DCs and dashboarding issues. But the racing was some of the best I’ve had in a game once we got going.
Cars look off, 991.2 and 992 GT3 guage cluster is wrong, PDK shifts slow, 992 light bar looks way too big, paint looks cheap. Cars do not drive realistic and sound awful. EXTREMELY disappointing
the best thing about Forza motorsport : it basicly has sport mode from Grand turismo..
Only this week we've been able to race S-Class! Over a month waiting and once this week's done it's gone for another 1 month! Thank god for the GT Lobbies otherwise I would be playing the game for a couple days a month.
For me, Project Cars 1 and 2 nailed the campaign mode to make you feel like a racing driver. R.I.P Forza seems to run better on the Xbox than it foes on PC currently.
It feels like every other race I leave has server sync issues, every other race I take part in suffers from failure to launch...
...but the overall feel of the racing is so incredibly airtight in this one. I'm not the best driver in these games, but I've been having competitive races when the game actually lets you have them. Especially in the Spec events when it comes down to driver skill and not the tune of your car.
That being said, they could balance some of those cars a lot better in the general Spec (looking at you, VW Golf)
I've watched quite a few videos to decide if I should get Forza, but in all chase camera videos in the corners the car just slides and slides and slides. It looks old school, so arcade I find it ridiculous...Is this what Forza supposed to look and feel? Great review and like others I've seen Forza is a big disappointment.
Yesterday I did an engine swap in the Catherham, loaded into Free Play to see how it drove and ... the car had no engine sound anymore lol
So I finally hooked up my Series X yesterday, spent about 4-5 hours downloading Forza Motorsport. When I started playing I got through the start and intro parts - went to start my first race in Career mode, and it froze on loading. Then I pushed all the controller buttons, and the "Share" one on the controller reset the system. Then I got the E200 Error code, pushed restart, then it would not stay powered on. So I unplugged it for an hour or so, plugged it back in, and got through the first two races on the first builders cup. Coincidence? Its the only game on there right now, so I'm not sure. That said, from what I played, aside from it being 3-4 years since I played FM7, and I completely forgot how to race outside of GTA Online and Wreckfest, it wasn't horrible, but it seems the first three AI shoot off into the distance and the rest of the field forgets to accelerate. So its kind of boring. But that was after two races. Just needed to whine about it crashing my Xbox and making me think it turned into a brick.
I feel the exact same way. Especially the part about Super GT's rating. If I looked at it one way I'd say it's much lower, but if I look at it the way I enjoy playing it's kind of right... It gives me hope for the future of the game that I can feel this way even when it's in this state. Also I really hope they expand rivals. The biggest thing keeping me from doing it isn't even the car leveling, it's just so boring driving around dry, mid day, clear sky.
Is handling better than previous forzas. Yes.
But I don't find it enjoyable at times. So hard to be consistent compared to other games. Steering can feel weird especially with down force cards where it feels twitchy and hard to go side by side with other people. Honestly all the chaos in multiplayer is just that, Yes there's dirty drivers but most of the BS that happens is because of the collision physics people having a hard time because controlling because it's not smooth and precise.
First Motorsport I’ve ever uninstalled. The community IS GOD AWFUL this release. I’ve never ever ever seen so many poor drivers with zero repercussions to ramming.
The forza subreddit is filled with issues. I feel scammed having paid for this game
Covered all the points. Finally feels like an upward trend for Motorsport but it’s been in the can since fm4 imo. Playing on a pc I built in 2017 and it’s been okay. Definitely not optimized well. I’ve also found so many bugs while creating liveries, for example The GT c7 will display graphics completely different left vs right side especially larger decals, they bleed onto the mirror more on one side than the other. So many major oversights. Game needed to cook for another 6 months
Forza Motorsport is good but nothing groundbreaking.
This launch has been better than FM7, by a long shot. FM7 was ass and basically unplayable for over 90 days after launch. This launch has been better but it's just a good racing game with added stuff (tire wear, tire compound changes and pit strategy) is basic racing game stuff at this point and nothing that makes Forza Motorsport stand out.
Good video.😊
Multiplayer races are alot of fun. Especially pkaying with friends and qualifying. U dont even have to win bc there are no stats just have fun whether your 1st,7th, 15th etc.
I just wish they used the ranking system they built for their matchmaking since obviously (and this is confirmed) it isn't working. There is no skill-based matchmaking, so why the ranking system in the first place? Separate the people who really want to race from the dirty drivers and casual players. Harshen up the penalties, give less points per position (I'm 4800 and it's my first racing game, I shouldn't be better than 3000 in an actual skill based game), pair me with people who can hold a different line on a curve without kicking me out, people who respects the other driver and doesn't play time trial races where they only care about their line as if they're playing alone...
SBMM would solve everyone's issues: a bad player doesn't want to finish 10 seconds behind the next driver, a good player doesn't want to get rammed in every fucking race at the 1rst corner, and dirty drivers don't care about other dirty drivers, so let them fuck themselves in their own safety group.
This game feels more like bumper cars than an actual racing game. Very few are the ocasions where I have my space respected by the next driver. It feels exhausting, because when you face a decent fella who wants to have a good fair race, who respects, where there is a clean back and forth, where there is a FAIR RACE, the game is fun as hell and it is so rewarding because the driving itself feels very good!!! Let us have an enjoyable multiplayer experience!!!!!!!!!! Turn 10 you are so close from this just fix the matchmaking and ranking/safety system!!
I think bugs aside, to play multiplayer its really fun, I havent had this much fun in a Forza game since Forza 4 (Offline singleplayer mode)
Sad to see some youtubers (specially Blackpantaa) complaining about FM just for content , while the game is not perfect, turn 10 focused on multiplayer and its actually enjoyable and thats what should be important for true players, people complaining about having to actually play the game is sad. Its bad no new games are good from the start these days (Asetto, GT) they all released unfinished but look at them now, people just need to chill and give the creators time to make the game better.
Gran turismo 7 is way better situation than this starfield unfinished game
If u want to pass the AI tap them from behind they will move to one side or the other and stay there for 5-7 seconds so u can pass , try it lol
Thus far the update did help the progression somewhat BUT what they need to do next is offer more ways in game for us to earn car experience as that really is the crux of the issue now.
It’s all fine and dandy that they cut levels for car parts in half but there are no other ways to speed up getting actual car points via gameplay.
Furthermore, the bugs and glitches are highly annoying and I know the update is coming in a couple of days but for what’s here right now it’s highly annoying.
I have gone through the entire career mode without experiencing the issue of total progression loss or stopping.
That doesn’t mean that it’s not here.
I’m sorry to everyone who has experienced being unable to progress through career mode.
Lastly the A.I. Jesus. Christ it needs to be redone.
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Game feels like absolute dog shit on a wheel. I want to love it so bad, but I just can’t.
I seem to be one of the few who has no problem with "grinding". As long as I can see the point. The only problem is that it makes no sense at all in this game, the way the career mode is set up. In my opinion, calling this career mode a career mode is an exaggeration. I constantly feel like I'm treading water because I have to start from scratch every time I win a championship.
I do hope that they add the option to use the Racing Cars to career mode at some point.
Now most other points, i agree, but i would just like to point out the career mode issues you pointed out, very rarely do you start racing with full speced racecars, you have to start from the beginning. Plus they have already stated, career mode is not finished yet, they are rolling out more as time goes on. Nov update, should be adding a new career mode with gt cars. Or thats as i read it, i could be wrong mind.
Ive quite enjoyed the game, my only issues are tracks missing whilst racing (i assume this is a connection issue with the host as it seems its not server based) and not being able to do 2 or 3 multiplayer races in a row without having to restart the game. But the main one, sort out the rating system so i can race equal opposition that dont punt you off the track.
It’s a buggy inconsistent mess indeed, but at the same time it’s the only game I’ve touched since release. I can’t stop playing mostly because it’s the best physics we’ve had in Forza. Finally the game feels just as good as gt with a wheel and light years ahead of gt on the controller front.
Feels like it’s still in beta but it’s bugs can be ironed out with n time. Get the track count up and we may finally stop calling fm4 the holy grail of the series
Real buggy and glitchy game. Car sounds are terrible. Multiplayer is actually could comparing to other forza games. The upgrade system real stupid and ruined the game for me, i understand why they did it but that makes the entire game boring and not worth the price.. Its been maybe a month since release and if i can recall ive only played the game about 5 days to a week total. Instead of making every single car leveled up to get parts, id say remove car leveling and and back the affinity for car manufacturers.
Gosh I just that they fix the existing replays
I too play 99% multiplayer. I've had more fun races in one month of Forza MP than I've had in iRacing, AC, PC2, and Forza 7. I love the penalty and rating system, and I honestly think the leveling system is spot on. Also, the quali/race cycle is amazing. Here's my take:
It's making me dive deeper in terms of tuning, in terms of handling subleties, in terms of really understanding how to read the car responding to inputs, the track and changes in set up and tune. I believe this version of Forza will turn its players into better tuners, better drivers, and reward sporting behaviour and racecraft.
It’s amazing that they managed to make a worse game than FM7, but… Congratulations to them.
Why do we have ratings? At this point im convinced its only there to make you feel good and doesn't matter. Am i alone? My races are more competitive and clean in Iracing rookies( mx 5s) . S safety and 4800 driver rating yet every race is like Wreckfest in Forza. Worst part is the clean drivers suffer and dirty drivers never punished. Why would someone care if they have 5 penalties and 7 seconds, when they are 15 seconds ahead of everyone the entire race. If you try to pass them, they take you out. Then you get a penalty. Avoidable collision my pasty white ***.
I love the driving and the odd close battle but its missing so many things that i loved in the older forza games. my biggest issue is the levelling system its absolutely dogshit
also the spec races has ended up just being the meta cars (looking at you Volkswagen and audi)
i uninstalled this game after a handful of career races. i saw all i needed to. i was doing the same things i've been doing in Forza for years, starting the race and barging my way through the brain dead a.i. in a couple corners. the races are way longer for no reason, the a.i. genuinely feels unchanged to me from the XB1 era Motorsports (slow through corners, and completely unaware of their surroundings, especially with more than one car by them), and i'm basically forced to upgrade my car after every race to stay competitive. i'll stick with the Xbox 360 era Motorsports when i want my FM fix
I do like the direction they have taken with the multiplayer and the spec series. Personally prefer GT over TC and thats where most of my time has gone.
But god damn do I miss the lobby hoppers. Sometimes I just wanna build some nonsense cars cars with way too much power and build/tune it as I go through different tracks in multiplayer.
The whole game just feels so restrictive. From having to level up cars to be able to build them, to having the tracks and class hoppers locked in for a full week. I'm not going to waste my time leveling up cars for a class hopper that I don't like, and the classes I do like and want to race in will be gone next week. So I might as well stick to the GT spec.
I wish they would leave the spec series as it is and add in the old style class hoppers, call it quick race or something. Sometimes I just want that rapid fire chaos that is Forza multiplayer.
We need many more permanent spec events. Having only 2 is pretty boring after awhile.
Agreed, prototype racing would be cool if they fix the aerowash issues
@@JustDevon now that I know what that is I’ll be keeping my eye open for it.
It's very strange. It's objectively not a very good game. There's a ton of bugs being reported (though I myself have only experienced one crash on launch day and a missing livery once, that's it), there are cars missing that should've definitely been in the game, especially GT3-car-wise this game is barebones, the Forza GT division is just ridiculously unrealistic with V8 Supercars in there, the leveling up system for customization sometimes feels like a numbing grind, and the fact that we've gone from 30+ tracks to just 20 or so is unacceptable, with three of the four IMSA endurance tracks for example gone (Daytona, Sebring, Road Atlanta), and I could go on about the many flaws of this game. Yet... I'm enjoying it so much more than Forza 7. On a controller (I haven't tried the wheel yet), I feel like Turn 10 have nailed the physics: the cars feel like there's weight to them, it's engaging and fun, but quite realistic. And that's coming from someone who usually doesn't enjoy and is competitive on racing games with a controller. I used to loathe the way touring cars drove on FM7, but now on FM8 I've really enjoyed the touring car hopper and being competitive on a controller is something I couldn't even imagine at first.
Shinyodd was definitely unfairly critical, and overly aggressive and angry for views. I get being upset about this game, but the way he was shouting and the things he was criticizing all video were honestly pretty meaningless compared to some of the other critiques.
This game needed at least 1 more year of development & testing, imho. But as with every triple A-game lately...
It kinda annoys me. I played a ton of FM3 and FM4, got a Seriex X 2 years ago and waited. And then we got this. The worst is that I don't care about MP, I just want to play a few tracks against AI after work. But the game is not saving, the AI is terrible, it looks like shit overall, no content and is completely over the top price-wise for what it offers. Now I am torn wether I should buy it or not. (canceling my gamepass soon) Will they significantly improve it? I dunno...
That would be so awesome if they added snow into the game
The real funny thing is that I see so many people complaining about the game but they seem nit to put the game down when there's so many other racing games out there Don't like a game put it down don't play it.
You can be critical and enjoy playing a game at the same time.
6 years. SIX YEARS. this was the trash they released. there is no justification its a cash grab and thats it. anyone who doesnt agree is deluding themselves
ur gonna tell me the AI is “built from the ground up”?
IT BEHAVES THE SAME WAY IN HORIZON 5
inexcusable from a game with the budget and backing they have
for me its mostly just the performance issues, i have a decent computer but i can barely run medium graphics on it
Ive been playing since week 1 and I only play multiplayer haven't touched the single player and probably never will never did in any other Forza titles lol not starting now...I actually love the tunning in this one more than 7 , I got it down pretty good since the first day and every car I built today for s-800 class has been in top 3 for qualifying and has been 6 place or better for wins ,I actually was just talking to some players online in a game and most of them never touched single player, lol who would even bother? Forza is for racing ppl not machines...
No reason to think T10 wont listen, look how fast they nerfed the car points system. I certainly see some of the issues people have with the single player, somehow though ive had more fun in this than any other racing game career since maybe FM4, I certainly think the way ive played this game is a bit different, and the systems in this game has allowed me to play it how I like. By this I mean ive turned off rewind, turned on damage, aside from a few races where T1 has become a wreckfest, ive never felt the need to restart races or use rewind, and the ability to progress through the career anyway even finishing midpack has made me enjoy this game so much more. Ive similarly only had a few crashes, so Im im the minority in that sense, am hopeful that the main issues with game stability will be fixed in Tuesdays update, but at this stage, ive put more hours in this than GT7, GT Sport, FM7, the physics and MP just feel right to me, and as long as T10 deliver some compelling content going forward, I think ill be ignoring the rest of my gaming backlog for some time
Yeah. Definitely. Still little squinty-eyed and cranky about this always unlike DRM like it's Gran Turismo 7.
I'm loving the multiplayer, when I can make it past the 1st few turns without getting knocked out. Can't stand single player either find it very boring, even with the AI set to highest difficulty it's still easy and boring, I've been doing the afk trick to get it over and done with
It is a disappointment, yeah. The physics feel better, the suspension feel realistic and that's about it. The fact the 919 Hybrid has a center diff just shows how T10 didn't even botter trying. "Oh, a AWD hybrid with the fron axle driven by an electric motor? Yeah, nahhh, let's just make it drive like a regular AWD".
Also, still no adjustable TC, ABS, brake and Diff options on the fly.
No electric energy deployment options. It is just.... LAZY.
I am sure all the diversity hires in T10 did an amazing job though
I waited ages for this game and its so dissapointing... I just bought a PS5 to play GT7 lol, its a lot of fun and the driving in it is much much better
Haha so they basically turned into gran turismo. That sucks.
I’m loving the game…especially MP fun had to put ACC down for a little bit 😬love them both.
The AI braking when you get close to them is why i quit playing. Also the lack if cash is just BS.
It's glitchy.
It's full of bugs.
The AI are braindead and (almost) as good as a large majority of the playerbase which brings me to...
The Skill/Safety system...its complete AIDs lol. Add in the farcical penalty system being an unfunny joke...
But I've played it daily since launch and enjoy it loads. I like it more than Forza 7
I have no doubt it will get fixed but i do miss the fast unlock side of things
The only complaint I have is the driver AI 😂 , for me to play the new forza I need the newest console and the game $370 I don’t have , I’m on Xbox one and I’m able to play it on the Gamepass cloud with controller only , I have a wheel but cloud won’t let me use it , anyways I’m happy & grateful being able to play on the Xbox one
FM23 has so, so many problems big and small. But it has potential. It’s going to take a whole lot of work by the devs to bring the game up to the hype it received before launch, but this game has the potential to be something great. For now though, it’s a 4/10.
ill never be buying this game. turn 10 lost me after taking every other motorsport besides strictly online lobbies in 7, which also kinda sucks, more now that dlc has been unavailable for 2 years before a new game ever came out. horizon 5 was the biggest waste of money in my gaming hobby life. ultimate edition doesnt even give dlc packs that are worth a crap, and only 2 packs!? i thought for sure at least 1 car pack would be given but the devs didnt even seem to have them started when the game released. also if the games are going to be 150gb+ of the same reuse and remove features and add useless ones, im not interested. the entire game is half a$$ed and i dont see that being any different for future titles both horizon and motorsport. used to love forza smh.
Loving it here. No issues at all.
Ok watching this after a month this is a great game only thing is the Timmy’s in online thinking their chick hicks 😂
Personally at the end of the day if you enjoy the game who cares about the reviews anyways
Im really enjoying it. Most criticism is from elitist wheel users. The fact that the game is primarily catering to controller users yet is good on a wheel with adjustments is not easy. I use controller and ultimately it feels great, way more feel than forza 7 and the online experience is far superior. All issues will be resolved, its a shame but all solvable.
Not exactly.
Even the casuals are criticizing this game.
Feels like Forza 3.5 at best
So is GT7 a better game than? 😅
Yes
Yes