i definitely empathize with your final sentiments. i've always seen this tv as inferior to the kvhr series, simply because it does not support 480p. i remember using one at the beachhouse as a kid in about 2006, the absence of rgb & the way these later sony sets were set up gives me bad memories of making any non-480p component source look less than acceptable, as well as the sometimes totally off, but never above average geometry. i'd put that up to lazier hands on yoke alignment/magnet tweaking at the UK factory & cheaper shelf life of components used on lower end models by sony. i suppose it's just what you get looking from the dead centre of the analog to digital transition. sony may have saved a lot of money using 100hz scanning in later high-end CRTs this way, to be reused in post-CRT products like the bravia etc.
Got the same model here in NZ. Not bad for a budget Sony, and like you say sweet spot is 240/480i. Do more of these indepth reviews Bob! And thanks for service menu details.
Never really saw the point of widescreen CRTs that can’t do progressive scan myself.....as you said SD content will always look better on a classic 4:3 TV, and for Xbox or Wii you want at least 480p.....great review again though Rob
Affordable OLEDs or similar would have most of the advantages, without the (massive) drawbacks. The only thing really remaining is the lack of fixed resolution, and the inherent visual alteration of old games designed for CRTs (such as dithered artwork) A very high resolution tv would eliminate much of the scaling issues, and filters could sort the rest.
@@DoubleMonoLR Agree with you but I still own PS2 fat with Samsung Plano 29 inch CRT. One this where modern tech losses is, the fixed resolution which provides better stability when you go with SD set top boxes, DVD or even with CDs if you got any.
I’ve got a very similar model. I’m in the UK so it has SCART. It also has a digital tuner that still works today, pretty impressive for 2004ish. It’s a KD-28DL11U
Picked one of these up today just for light guns and the convenience of widescreen for wii while 480i in GameCube. After giving it short run today I was impressed but not quite as sharp or bright as my kv-xr29 but that might be due to hours or some fine tuning
A component input is very nice for newer consoles like PS2 and X-Box but without Scart RGB you can't use the RGB signal from Master System, Mega Drive, Super Nintendo, PS1 and Saturn. You have the use the lower signal S-VHS.
Dude your a fucken legend for doing these videos. I've been searching for a good crt awhile and it's just so happens your videos are comeing up so I can actually find out about them from someone who sounds like a good cunt. Cheers mate apreciate you.
How far we've come in terms of technology!
I enjoyed this television. Liked the design 👍
i definitely empathize with your final sentiments. i've always seen this tv as inferior to the kvhr series, simply because it does not support 480p. i remember using one at the beachhouse as a kid in about 2006, the absence of rgb & the way these later sony sets were set up gives me bad memories of making any non-480p component source look less than acceptable, as well as the sometimes totally off, but never above average geometry. i'd put that up to lazier hands on yoke alignment/magnet tweaking at the UK factory & cheaper shelf life of components used on lower end models by sony. i suppose it's just what you get looking from the dead centre of the analog to digital transition. sony may have saved a lot of money using 100hz scanning in later high-end CRTs this way, to be reused in post-CRT products like the bravia etc.
Got the same model here in NZ. Not bad for a budget Sony, and like you say sweet spot is 240/480i. Do more of these indepth reviews Bob! And thanks for service menu details.
Love your different background musics. can you name them? thanks for the great video.
Ah coffee and Trinitron 😊. Did you manage to confirm its not Super Fine Pitch tube?
I have the 4:3 variant of this. (KV-27F517). U.S. It has component in. But as others have said, doesn’t do progressive, only interlaced 480.
Never really saw the point of widescreen CRTs that can’t do progressive scan myself.....as you said SD content will always look better on a classic 4:3 TV, and for Xbox or Wii you want at least 480p.....great review again though Rob
Widescreen was predominantly for DVD movies at the time.
I wish CRT never ends, hope someone out there revive them too.
Why
@@southpawlibranine3511 coz its DAMN good yo.
Affordable OLEDs or similar would have most of the advantages, without the (massive) drawbacks. The only thing really remaining is the lack of fixed resolution, and the inherent visual alteration of old games designed for CRTs (such as dithered artwork) A very high resolution tv would eliminate much of the scaling issues, and filters could sort the rest.
@@DoubleMonoLR Agree with you but I still own PS2 fat with Samsung Plano 29 inch CRT.
One this where modern tech losses is, the fixed resolution which provides better stability when you go with SD set top boxes, DVD or even with CDs if you got any.
I’ve got a very similar model. I’m in the UK so it has SCART. It also has a digital tuner that still works today, pretty impressive for 2004ish.
It’s a KD-28DL11U
For the NTSC game that was too red, the TV should have a 'tint' adjustment option when in NTSC mode, changing that may well correct it.
Picked one of these up today just for light guns and the convenience of widescreen for wii while 480i in GameCube. After giving it short run today I was impressed but not quite as sharp or bright as my kv-xr29 but that might be due to hours or some fine tuning
A component input is very nice for newer consoles like PS2 and X-Box but without Scart RGB you can't use the RGB signal from Master System, Mega Drive, Super Nintendo, PS1 and Saturn. You have the use the lower signal S-VHS.
Yes not common to get both scart rgb and Component in 1 tv
Rob do you notice the interlacing very much on 480i?. There's a 282m31 here in nz I'm woundering about pulling the trigger on.
Dude your a fucken legend for doing these videos. I've been searching for a good crt awhile and it's just so happens your videos are comeing up so I can actually find out about them from someone who sounds like a good cunt. Cheers mate apreciate you.
Pretty sure this is the same model that I purchased in 2006/7 would have been 400/500$ NZ I think maybe less.
nice looking set.
the front of the display i flat but.. the crt is curved in the front and corners
Awessome
I find same design but the model number are different it come with two components inputs is worth to get for retro games ? sony wega kv db29m81
NICE!
Dos this work with more than Just the Duck hunt Zapper ?
yes, will work with all the guns from the different consoles.
@@rgbrob Cheers Whats a good Set to go that has light gun support and is 30 inchs or larger ? :)
Do you know how it works with Guncon style light guns?
can it there is widescreen crt's some can have 1080p, samsung also made a few rare 2k crts?
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