I've tried Dreamcast on my Loewe with this reproduction card and it is perfection. Native vga 480p on a crt is the same level of beauty as rgb 240p on a crt. Especially on a Loewe. Next level. We need to promote this option to save all the relevant 100hz Loewes as they are treasures in the making.
I recently bought the VGA card and installed it in my Xelos 2500M chassis. What an incredible picture. It has surpassed my expectations and it's all thanks to you Ludo. I have been looking for a VGA card for over decade and you have made it possible.
Great work, although you are mixing up a couple of things in your explanation. The input signal is not always line doubled, but always frame doubled. 100hz was introduced in Europe mainly to combat 50hz flicker, doubling each field of an interlaced signal. Some TVs also introduced some kind of deinterlacing to the signal chain, but some (including Grundigs and Sonys, AE2F and AE3 chassis being an example) did not. This results in a 240p image with scanlines, albeit Lightgun incompatible and suffering from motion stutter because of the frame doubling.
Outstanding video! The Loewe consumer TVs are incredible and so under appreciated. The guy who hooked you up with the original VGA card must be a top bloke! 😉
I’ve purchased one of these off ludo and installed it in my aconda, I can vouch for how well it works and the image quality from the Dreamcast is phenomenal. Bit of a shame light gun games don’t work well on it but still worth it
Thank you for the feedback Dylan. Sorry to hear you’re having issue with lightguns. I think it’s most likely because your model of tv uses a pure flat tube. I’ve tested the vga card with Dreamcast lightguns on multiple curved tube loewes and it always worked flawlessly
I picked up a Arcada 8784 ZP and a Planus 4781 ZP (with the stand) and both have the 110 Q 24 chassis. I just learned about this being a optional card. I always thought that I was out of luck living in Germany and that the perforated cutout for the VGA port is a leftover from some other international version. I hope you have 2 cards left in a month, because I used all the gaming money for this month to pick them up.
I don't think I've seen any in here, people just went for super crappy early LCDs as it was more than anything a status showoff just like the 2 door fridges with ice dispensers back in the days
Nice to see some decent footage with closeups. I've wondered how flexible these TVs could be - they're ofc not monitors, but 31 Khz and VGA geometry adjustment already provides some options. 480p should also work for the PS3, PAL consoles need to be modded ofc.
I forgot, maybe both 480p and 576p are available by default, I definitely needed to mod my console to switch between 480i and 576i though. The Loewe should also be able to do both, 576p/i just run in 50 Hz instead of 60.
I idę my Daewoo 100Hz for N64, PS1, PS2, GameCube and old consoles like Master System and even though it does not produce scanlines I did not notice aby lag. I got my PS2 hooked up through RGB Scart, N64 via S Video, PS1 via S Video and older consoles like Master System and SNES via composite and never had problems
Hmm looking online at manuals of my TV, the Loewe Profil 3470 is 50/60hz, making it able for me to play PAL games in that have the option in 60hz. So it's not a 100hz tv, right? I'm too lazy to look at the back of my TV right now lol
Great video! Question - if you don't have the right chassis for this card, would it be possible to inject RGB via the teletext processor? As an example, in the service manual for the Q2300 chassis I'm seeing it looks exactly the same on the signal board. This would obviously be way more involved, but could save some more of those 100hz sets from the dumpster.
That link for the VGA card doesn't seem to work anymore, do you have another one ? I actually got into Loewe CRT's about 9 years ago before this was well known i went around buying up old TV's and taking the boards out to make a complete CRT with all the inputs. Not mentioned in this video but there is also a secret service menu you can access to give you more options. I also modded the power cable to upgrade to a beefier silver coated power cable which also dramatically improved the picture quality. Thanks for doing this, i still have the TV i modded many many years ago. It's great to see these excellent sets now being appreciated by many more people.
eyo i could buy a 100hz loewe calida 5755z but it has the q41 chassy, but it has a slot for a vga card would this card work for me? and if not why wouldnt it work?
Amazing work DJcalle. Since I picked up a Xelos 5381 ZW (Q 24) I was wondering if you still sell the card, as the link only shows „auction ended“? I really hope I can get one. Cheers from Austria.
Thank you. I already ordered one. I clicked on „show other items from seller“ and suddenly could order the card. Quite annoying that eBay ends the link, if the item is ever sold out. Nonetheless, really exited to see HotD2 in it‘s 480p glory in the future. Have a nice day m8.
Hello. please tell me the mileage in the tv service menu. LOEWE MIMO 32 D: 3481h . WHAT DOES THE LETTER D IN FRONT OF THE NUMBERS MEAN? everyone else doesn't have this. there is a second round or after repair they say
Hello. May I ask you 2 questions about Loewe CT 1170 TV? I'm going to use it in my Sega Blast City Candy Cab Arcade machine and I'd love to know if it's possible to set it to always show a 4:3 ratio and not 16:9 as it's happening with my Mister Fpga. The last one: is it possible to avoid Stand By mode and turn it on straight when I connect it to the electricity? Thanks a lot in advance,
Is there any significant difference between using VGA on a set like this and using progressive through component on a 100Hz TV, like a Panasonic Tau or the like?
I have not testedTAU VGA personally,you'd have to compare side by side, I think they are exclusively flat tube though so that's a major difference. VGA@31K vs YPbPr@31K should be indistinguishable though
@@djcalle1975 I recently got an Aconda with the 110 Q 24 chassis. Is it compatible with this card? Edit: Well, I guess so, since it's photographed in the video.
Hey I just purchased a Q24 which already has a VGA card installed, I'm just wondering what kind of signals does it accept from older consoles, i understand it's 31khz only, but does it need RGBHV?
Hi, What chassis is that planus? Tthe 4670 model came out with various chassis fitted. please refer to 5:17 to detrmine which chassis it has. Feel free to message me through the ebay link if you want to send me a pic of your label of discuss further.
Hi there from Germany! Iam going to buy a planus 4672 Z - Ch Type 110q41 - to play old Nes and Sega Mega Drive, i need your Mod for the TV right? How should i connect the Sega Mega Drive as it got no VGA port on the Back? It would make me so happy if this would work out for my next buy TV! Thank you 4 making your thing on us :)
I’ve added links in the description, where the card can be bought. The installation is very simple, most people can do it themselves. No soldering required.I’ll provide instructions with the kit.
@@Reyas I used Crtemudriver to generate resolutions compatible with a windscreen monitor @ 31khz. I just input those two parameters and it did the rest
Hi, q23 is a chassis that also can host a vga option card but it is very different from the q24/25 card and is not compatible. I’ve started working on a reproduction for that one but have it major snags so I’m not sure when or if I’ll ever have one for sale
@@djcalle1975 Thank you for the response, I hope you're successful in recreating a suitable card for this chassis if ever possible. I wish you luck and will continue following your channel for any updates. You've done amazing work so far in expanding the usefulness of these sets and sharing your talents with us!
@@djcalle1975 I'm mainly looking at Genesis, SNES, MAME, Saturn and PS1 for 2D games. I'm thinking of Raspberry Pi emulation if I don't have the original hardware on hand.
@@djcalle1975 would the Open Source Scan Converter (OSSC) work for that, or would you have other recommendations? If I'm using emulation, would this be solved by internal upscaling?
Yes to both but the emulation route would need some tweaking. Any upscaler with a vga 480p output should work great, I was using a gbscontrol but a retro think should work too
I've tried Dreamcast on my Loewe with this reproduction card and it is perfection. Native vga 480p on a crt is the same level of beauty as rgb 240p on a crt. Especially on a Loewe. Next level. We need to promote this option to save all the relevant 100hz Loewes as they are treasures in the making.
Fantastic video, clear, informative and a pleasure to watch!
Outstanding work promoting the often neglected 100Hz Loewe sets and finally being able to use them to their full potential
I recently bought the VGA card and installed it in my Xelos 2500M chassis. What an incredible picture. It has surpassed my expectations and it's all thanks to you Ludo. I have been looking for a VGA card for over decade and you have made it possible.
Thank you for sharing your feedback, much appreciated.
@@djcalle1975А в Россию отправить сможешь😊, нигде найти не могу у нас😏
На Loewe Articos 32 подойдет?
Great work, although you are mixing up a couple of things in your explanation. The input signal is not always line doubled, but always frame doubled. 100hz was introduced in Europe mainly to combat 50hz flicker, doubling each field of an interlaced signal. Some TVs also introduced some kind of deinterlacing to the signal chain, but some (including Grundigs and Sonys, AE2F and AE3 chassis being an example) did not.
This results in a 240p image with scanlines, albeit Lightgun incompatible and suffering from motion stutter because of the frame doubling.
I wish we had TVs this nice in the US.
Outstanding video! The Loewe consumer TVs are incredible and so under appreciated. The guy who hooked you up with the original VGA card must be a top bloke! 😉
Thanks for explaining 👍
Amazing work! I’ve kept my Loewe for this day!
Loewe has always been the best crt
Great video and very informative. Fantastic picture quality 👌 Nice work on the reproduction card!
This video is dope. Aus, Loewe vga and SF2.. oh and x360... PERFECT!
I’ve purchased one of these off ludo and installed it in my aconda, I can vouch for how well it works and the image quality from the Dreamcast is phenomenal. Bit of a shame light gun games don’t work well on it but still worth it
Thank you for the feedback Dylan. Sorry to hear you’re having issue with lightguns. I think it’s most likely because your model of tv uses a pure flat tube. I’ve tested the vga card with Dreamcast lightguns on multiple curved tube loewes and it always worked flawlessly
@@djcalle1975 yeah I think you’re right, Is there any way to get light guns to work on these models?
Very informative! Thanks for putting this together, excellent video
Building a SF 2 HDR XB360 wide Loewe cab as we speak. Thanking you!
how's it going?
Great video!
Fantastic video Ludo!! Be sure to let me know next time you release a video so I can support and help TH-cam pick this up on the algorithm! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Holy crap where can I buy a Loewe in america!
Thanks DJ - keep up the good work
Wow looks like my Sony fw900 very nice. And this explains a lot for me and how I run certain low res without scalers
I picked up a Arcada 8784 ZP and a Planus 4781 ZP (with the stand) and both have the 110 Q 24 chassis. I just learned about this being a optional card. I always thought that I was out of luck living in Germany and that the perforated cutout for the VGA port is a leftover from some other international version. I hope you have 2 cards left in a month, because I used all the gaming money for this month to pick them up.
Congrats. Stock should be ok.
That looks soooo good! Great job 💪
I don't think I've seen any in here, people just went for super crappy early LCDs as it was more than anything a status showoff just like the 2 door fridges with ice dispensers back in the days
Nice to see some decent footage with closeups. I've wondered how flexible these TVs could be - they're ofc not monitors, but 31 Khz and VGA geometry adjustment already provides some options. 480p should also work for the PS3, PAL consoles need to be modded ofc.
i thought there is a 480p output mode
I forgot, maybe both 480p and 576p are available by default, I definitely needed to mod my console to switch between 480i and 576i though. The Loewe should also be able to do both, 576p/i just run in 50 Hz instead of 60.
I wish you could mod the tv's so it switches off the line doubling
I idę my Daewoo 100Hz for N64, PS1, PS2, GameCube and old consoles like Master System and even though it does not produce scanlines I did not notice aby lag. I got my PS2 hooked up through RGB Scart, N64 via S Video, PS1 via S Video and older consoles like Master System and SNES via composite and never had problems
Anything like this that can be done with Pal 100hz Sony Widescreen Trinitrons?
Is there a way to make a 100hz 1080i set reproduce 50hz 1080p?
Hmm looking online at manuals of my TV, the Loewe Profil 3470 is 50/60hz, making it able for me to play PAL games in that have the option in 60hz. So it's not a 100hz tv, right? I'm too lazy to look at the back of my TV right now lol
Timing couldn't be better, just reserved the Artcos 32"
5:41 5:42
HELLO. how to enable VGA partition on LOEWE ARTICOS 32 TV via the service menu THANK YOU .
Great video! Question - if you don't have the right chassis for this card, would it be possible to inject RGB via the teletext processor? As an example, in the service manual for the Q2300 chassis I'm seeing it looks exactly the same on the signal board. This would obviously be way more involved, but could save some more of those 100hz sets from the dumpster.
That link for the VGA card doesn't seem to work anymore, do you have another one ? I actually got into Loewe CRT's about 9 years ago before this was well known i went around buying up old TV's and taking the boards out to make a complete CRT with all the inputs. Not mentioned in this video but there is also a secret service menu you can access to give you more options. I also modded the power cable to upgrade to a beefier silver coated power cable which also dramatically improved the picture quality. Thanks for doing this, i still have the TV i modded many many years ago. It's great to see these excellent sets now being appreciated by many more people.
Thank you for letting me know, I have updated the link: www.ebay.com.au/itm/275488226209
eyo i could buy a 100hz loewe calida 5755z but it has the q41 chassy, but it has a slot for a vga card would this card work for me? and if not why wouldnt it work?
Amazing work DJcalle. Since I picked up a Xelos 5381 ZW (Q 24) I was wondering if you still sell the card, as the link only shows „auction ended“? I really hope I can get one. Cheers from Austria.
Thanks for the feedback! Yes I still have some cards for sale. I've updated the link: www.ebay.com.au/itm/276335303239
Thank you. I already ordered one. I clicked on „show other items from seller“ and suddenly could order the card. Quite annoying that eBay ends the link, if the item is ever sold out. Nonetheless, really exited to see HotD2 in it‘s 480p glory in the future. Have a nice day m8.
Hello. please tell me the mileage in the tv service menu. LOEWE MIMO 32 D: 3481h . WHAT DOES THE LETTER D IN FRONT OF THE NUMBERS MEAN? everyone else doesn't have this. there is a second round or after repair they say
I have seen the D on newer sets. I honestly don’t know what it stands for, sorry. Please let us know if you ever find out
Hello. May I ask you 2 questions about Loewe CT 1170 TV?
I'm going to use it in my Sega Blast City Candy Cab Arcade machine and I'd love to know if it's possible to set it to always show a 4:3 ratio and not 16:9 as it's happening with my Mister Fpga.
The last one: is it possible to avoid Stand By mode and turn it on straight when I connect it to the electricity?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Is there any significant difference between using VGA on a set like this and using progressive through component on a 100Hz TV, like a Panasonic Tau or the like?
I have not testedTAU VGA personally,you'd have to compare side by side, I think they are exclusively flat tube though so that's a major difference. VGA@31K vs YPbPr@31K should be indistinguishable though
@@djcalle1975 I recently got an Aconda with the 110 Q 24 chassis. Is it compatible with this card? Edit: Well, I guess so, since it's photographed in the video.
@@djcalle1975 Well I bought the VGA card, installed it, and connected it up, but no VGA option is available on the TV?
Hey I just purchased a Q24 which already has a VGA card installed, I'm just wondering what kind of signals does it accept from older consoles, i understand it's 31khz only, but does it need RGBHV?
@@hugevibez yes. This card was advertised by Loewe as a PC Card so it’s meant for 640x480 rgbhv pc Input
Does this work on a Xelos 5270? (Q41 chassis)
Not on Q41 unfortunately.
If the set has a vga input does that usually mean it has the card?
yes
Hey Ludo, what's missing from the Q2300 series that prevents the reproduction card from working?
It’s a totally different card on the q23.
Hey! Would this work with an Amercan imported Loewe Planus 4670ZW? I think some of them came with VGA inputs.
Hi, What chassis is that planus? Tthe 4670 model came out with various chassis fitted. please refer to 5:17 to detrmine which chassis it has. Feel free to message me through the ebay link if you want to send me a pic of your label of discuss further.
@@djcalle1975 Will do!
@@djcalle1975 Sent you a DM!
Hi there from Germany! Iam going to buy a planus 4672 Z - Ch Type 110q41 - to play old Nes and Sega Mega Drive, i need your Mod for the TV right? How should i connect the Sega Mega Drive as it got no VGA port on the Back?
It would make me so happy if this would work out for my next buy TV!
Thank you 4 making your thing on us :)
Sorry Q41 is not compatible with the card. Q25M Q25H or Q24 is what you need
Wow we
Got an eBay link to the card? It expired.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/275964463812?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=YFS6uvtkTdC&sssrc=2051273&ssuid=YFS6uvtkTdC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
My customers have asked about this before, so how can they buy one? Do you offer installation or is it DIY?
I’ve added links in the description, where the card can be bought. The installation is very simple, most people can do it themselves. No soldering required.I’ll provide instructions with the kit.
@@djcalle1975 Is this kind of mod possible for Philips and/or Samsung 100hz tvs?
Ludo, do you know if these TVs can accept 480p over scart? Additionally, are you able to share your 720i custom resolution?
Definitely not, even the component input does not accept progressive signals. That’s why the vga card is so useful
@@djcalle1975 There you have it. Are you also able to share your 720i custom resolution settings?
@@Reyas I used Crtemudriver to generate resolutions compatible with a windscreen monitor @ 31khz. I just input those two parameters and it did the rest
Hi, I have a 4:3 Loewe Calida 6784 Z Q23 is this chassis incompatible?
Hi, q23 is a chassis that also can host a vga option card but it is very different from the q24/25 card and is not compatible. I’ve started working on a reproduction for that one but have it major snags so I’m not sure when or if I’ll ever have one for sale
@@djcalle1975 Thank you for the response, I hope you're successful in recreating a suitable card for this chassis if ever possible. I wish you luck and will continue following your channel for any updates. You've done amazing work so far in expanding the usefulness of these sets and sharing your talents with us!
For side scroller and sprite based games, what input method is recommended?
It depends if your source is 15KHz (480i/240P) or 31KHz (480P/576P). Which games/consoles are those?
@@djcalle1975 I'm mainly looking at Genesis, SNES, MAME, Saturn and PS1 for 2D games. I'm thinking of Raspberry Pi emulation if I don't have the original hardware on hand.
@@GoddamnMYPstudent Those are all 15Khz sources, if you want to use a Loewe 31Khz VGA you'd need an external upscaler for that
@@djcalle1975 would the Open Source Scan Converter (OSSC) work for that, or would you have other recommendations? If I'm using emulation, would this be solved by internal upscaling?
Yes to both but the emulation route would need some tweaking. Any upscaler with a vga 480p output should work great, I was using a gbscontrol but a retro think should work too