This and the "karma" talk by Adya have been the two I have gotten the most out of. I had a day where I felt completely alone as the universe and it was wonderful... that changed of course. I guess that something is still too scared to let concepts of the past and the future die, even though it's whats wanted the most.
I had an awakening too my utter and complete aloneness several years ago. I’ve busied myself with seeking and so on, playing out my little predetermined role exactly as I should. The views or seeing into that aloneness are back. I’m getting more and more little glimpses as if playing peekaboo with emptiness. It’s waving 👋 and although I don’t believe the stories attached to what emptiness and aloneness are, I find them more palatable. Stories about souls, god(s) etc. There seems to be a deep chasm of grief I’m supposed to cross before letting go of the comforting stories. Equally, I don’t know that those are not true. What if I’m wrong? David Hawkins warned of a limbo one could get stuck in thinking oneself liberated. Well, shit. Guess I’ll go play outside or something
Aloneness There are levels of awakening. It seems the level of awakening Adyashanti is referring to here is not full liberation but the state of duality or “witnessing” that can happen before unity or oneness. But at times he seems to be referring to liberation itself, in which there is only pure awareness in which no sense of possessor or possession arises. It’s pretty clear the questioner is not experiencing this. I often feel Adya lets people go home feeling they are awakened, even when it is only a preliminary level, which my Chinese and Burmese Buddhist teachers would never do. Rather, they would only point to that which is not yet seen, which I feel is much more compassionate and humbling. Celebration of attainment is purely an egoic activity. From the liberated view, there is nothing to attain. There is only ownerless awareness ever unfolding. There is no now, no static present moment. Only silence and the non-separate play of silence. And from this, love, appreciation, gratitude, compassion flow. Is this aloneness? Yes, in that this alone is. I do love Adya’s pointing out that there is no returning from this direct seeing of silent awareness, no backing out. It is absorption into what is, including the perception of how this seeing is obscured and leads to misperception and suffering. There is no returning from this kind of awakening.
i want to warn people who experience aloneness or loniness, pursuing a spiritual path comes with yet still a lot of concepts of separateness, i.e. “soul” “incarnations” “past lives” “levels of awareness”. This is but food for the ego to again generate separateness. But as beautiful as this spiritual bypassing may seem, eventually it will not take away or erase emotions/feelings/sensations of loneliness for good. Even with a proper perspective of non-dual energetic awareness, excluding previous named concepts like souls, levels, God etc. you will be left with a perspective, but the perspective does not erase your natural emotional system which is designed to connect and relate to other beings in everyday life, it is just added to it. Sometimes it is easier to let a sense of peace be dominant, sometimes it isn’t. We must deeply realize that our societal system is operating such to inflict separateness, individualism and hence loneliness onto it’s participants. Relationships, families, communities, all this stuff within our society is but another level of individualism. We are conditioned with a sense of separate self, and despite methods to decondition our own system, this system will continuously be triggered to separate itself again. The hard work is this: realizing aloness will no go away, feeling all the emotions that come with it, all the desires to commune, to lose the self. It basically just sucks for most of the time, added with some trained sense of peace now and then, but every small fragment of freedom that can be found in this endeavour is still worth it, cuz it is the only sense of control we can establish and maintain.
Fear of fear itself is the main thing to drop. It's just a sensation in your consciousness. Then when you feel fear, just don't fear the sensation of fear. Feel it.
Well, as the person in the video describes, it’s not quite the emotional experience of fear but more the intuition of the vastness and isolation of consciousness that can be terrifying for the little self. It can seem like death itself.
I think he's ultimately pointing to a responsibility one takes when coming to the understanding and realisation of aloneness, oneness, and all the rest.
Realising all is one is all-one-ness = aloneness. If there is only one, there is only one. Who or what else is there to connect to? The idea of connection rests on the illusion of separation.
Dear heart, do we see, hear, smell or taste gravity? Is there an emotion that verifies its existence? It is not helpful to try to experience or feel reality. When we stop trying so hard and let all seeking drop away, it's right here, underneath. Spending time in the underneath - in reality - helps us perceive reality. But whether it is perceived or not, it is. The pot sees only other pots. (It's so busy being a good and useful pot :D ) The pot that knows it is clay sees clay everywhere: as pots, tiles, soil, dust...
Together we stand alone
Alone we stand together
Nothing has ever been missing
Timelessly tasting time
As we ever re~member
Beautifully spoken!
A loving teacher. Thank You.
Wonderful talk. Ady' s gift is to communicate complexity with simplicity. Difficult. What a gift.
This and the "karma" talk by Adya have been the two I have gotten the most out of.
I had a day where I felt completely alone as the universe and it was wonderful... that changed of course. I guess that something is still too scared to let concepts of the past and the future die, even though it's whats wanted the most.
What's the title of that talk? Thank you... 🤗
So extremely fine! This xactly now I am 81! My teacher told me that he couldn’t help me to open the door…. Many years ago…
Aloneness into Al /Oneness with A Spirit of All Oneness.
Such direct and simple guidance, Namaste
i agree
Thank you for this! 🌞🌟
So good
I had an awakening too my utter and complete aloneness several years ago.
I’ve busied myself with seeking and so on, playing out my little predetermined role exactly as I should.
The views or seeing into that aloneness are back.
I’m getting more and more little glimpses as if playing peekaboo with emptiness.
It’s waving 👋 and although I don’t believe the stories attached to what emptiness and aloneness are, I find them more palatable.
Stories about souls, god(s) etc.
There seems to be a deep chasm of grief I’m supposed to cross before letting go of the comforting stories.
Equally, I don’t know that those are not true.
What if I’m wrong?
David Hawkins warned of a limbo one could get stuck in thinking oneself liberated.
Well, shit. Guess I’ll go play outside or something
Fucking powerful comment, man. I'm where you are in this (potentially?) illusory journey, and I wouldn't change a word in what you wrote. Fuck.
Wuoe❤
All-One 🙏
🙏🙏🙏
Aloneness
There are levels of awakening. It seems the level of awakening Adyashanti is referring to here is not full liberation but the state of duality or “witnessing” that can happen before unity or oneness. But at times he seems to be referring to liberation itself, in which there is only pure awareness in which no sense of possessor or possession arises. It’s pretty clear the questioner is not experiencing this.
I often feel Adya lets people go home feeling they are awakened, even when it is only a preliminary level, which my Chinese and Burmese Buddhist teachers would never do. Rather, they would only point to that which is not yet seen, which I feel is much more compassionate and humbling.
Celebration of attainment is purely an egoic activity. From the liberated view, there is nothing to attain. There is only ownerless awareness ever unfolding. There is no now, no static present moment. Only silence and the non-separate play of silence. And from this, love, appreciation, gratitude, compassion flow. Is this aloneness? Yes, in that this alone is.
I do love Adya’s pointing out that there is no returning from this direct seeing of silent awareness, no backing out. It is absorption into what is, including the perception of how this seeing is obscured and leads to misperception and suffering. There is no returning from this kind of awakening.
He clearly said that only when confronting and giving in to this aloneness can it deepen the sense of connection.
i want to warn people who experience aloneness or loniness, pursuing a spiritual path comes with yet still a lot of concepts of separateness, i.e. “soul” “incarnations” “past lives” “levels of awareness”. This is but food for the ego to again generate separateness. But as beautiful as this spiritual bypassing may seem, eventually it will not take away or erase emotions/feelings/sensations of loneliness for good. Even with a proper perspective of non-dual energetic awareness, excluding previous named concepts like souls, levels, God etc. you will be left with a perspective, but the perspective does not erase your natural emotional system which is designed to connect and relate to other beings in everyday life, it is just added to it. Sometimes it is easier to let a sense of peace be dominant, sometimes it isn’t.
We must deeply realize that our societal system is operating such to inflict separateness, individualism and hence loneliness onto it’s participants. Relationships, families, communities, all this stuff within our society is but another level of individualism. We are conditioned with a sense of separate self, and despite methods to decondition our own system, this system will continuously be triggered to separate itself again. The hard work is this: realizing aloness will no go away, feeling all the emotions that come with it, all the desires to commune, to lose the self. It basically just sucks for
most of the time, added with some trained sense of peace now and then, but every small fragment of freedom that can be found in this endeavour is still worth it, cuz it is the only sense of control we can establish and maintain.
Hmm. Interesting perspective
I wonder if fear of this aloneness is a contributing factor to why seekers encounter so much difficulty becoming finders.
Fear of fear itself is the main thing to drop. It's just a sensation in your consciousness. Then when you feel fear, just don't fear the sensation of fear. Feel it.
Well, as the person in the video describes, it’s not quite the emotional experience of fear but more the intuition of the vastness and isolation of consciousness that can be terrifying for the little self. It can seem like death itself.
Guys i didnt get the whole ego aloneness independance and the enlightened ones aloneness part could somebody explain to me please?
I think he's ultimately pointing to a responsibility one takes when coming to the understanding and realisation of aloneness, oneness, and all the rest.
@@thad2bad ah,i get it ,but sir dont you think that before enlightenment one also needs a certain kind of sense of aloness?
Realising all is one is all-one-ness = aloneness. If there is only one, there is only one. Who or what else is there to connect to? The idea of connection rests on the illusion of separation.
@@jacquin8511 but how come i dont feel that oneness what stands on the way?
Dear heart, do we see, hear, smell or taste gravity? Is there an emotion that verifies its existence?
It is not helpful to try to experience or feel reality. When we stop trying so hard and let all seeking drop away, it's right here, underneath. Spending time in the underneath - in reality - helps us perceive reality. But whether it is perceived or not, it is.
The pot sees only other pots. (It's so busy being a good and useful pot :D )
The pot that knows it is clay sees clay everywhere: as pots, tiles, soil, dust...
All this sucks