Should You Buy The Game Drives on Atari Consoles?

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  • @TheAtariNetwork
    @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I kept saying premium and I don't know why. It's called the Deluxe version at Stone Age Gamer. Sorry...

  • @edgeofeden7583
    @edgeofeden7583 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yes, I put off buying the 7800 GameDrive due to the price, but I finally broke down and bought the Deluxe version and the 7800 Mega along with the HD Retrovision Sega Genesis YPbPr Component Cable. All I can say is Wow! Everything you said is true. I will add that the Deluxe version has the case and a two year warranty.
    As far as the 2600+ which I also have, the problem is that it is an emulator box. A typical game cart doesn't interact with the 2600+ as it would with the original console. It is simply a ROM dumper like the RetroN 77, which you also reviewed. Currently the 2600+ has no way to read the menus in the 7800 GameDrive. If the technology is compatible, RetroHQ and Atari would likely have to come to an agreement on the standards used. Otherwise, one 2600+ firmware update could ruin any connection created by RetroHQ. I definitely agree with you that it would be great if this could be done as the 2600+ also has an HDMI port built in.
    Regarding your SD card, corruption is not all that unusual. It could be a problematic SD card. It could have been a hot swap while right operations were active and yes, it's possible the Jag GameDrive somehow corrupted it. However, unless there are a number of other such use cases happening, I doubt a firmware update will be needed, but I could certainly be wrong. In the meantime, I'd look into a name brand card like Samsung, Lexar, or possibly Sandisk, but they've had some unfortunate problems with knockoffs. Amazon also is having problems with unscrupulous 3rd Party sellers selling all kinds of counterfeit products. Caveat Emptor and all that.
    Keep up the fantastic work. I always enjoy your reviews.

  • @Atarifan72
    @Atarifan72 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Agree with so many of your points. You have the best Atari channel on TH-cam, keep up the excellent work!

  • @saurondp
    @saurondp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Jag GD is one of the best purchases I've ever made for my Jaguar. Having that allowed me to offload most of my Jag collection as well as my Jag CD, and I don't miss the carts or the CD unit one bit (well, except for the VLM). I'm hoping to get both the 7800 and Lynx versions soon as well.

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too bad it has DRM built in.

  • @southtexasatlatl
    @southtexasatlatl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Been using the 7800 GD and Mega 7800 setup for about a month and I love it. Games look fantastic going through my Retrotink 5X and being able to use my wireless 8bitdo M30 controller is the chef's kiss!

    • @JJbm4233
      @JJbm4233 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I failed to see how it’s an enough to download Brahms for machine that hasn’t been made in over 20 years with virtually no way to play these games and the original format. What do you think it’s an ethical if I use an FPGA I built my own jaguar hardware from the ground up without using any of Atari’s proprietary tech? Those games when you bought them we’re not a service they were a product you own to do with whatever you wish.

  • @ClassicCo-op
    @ClassicCo-op 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve had the Lynx and Jaguar one since release but still haven’t ordered the 7800 one. Definitely been excited to get it!

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's too bad the Jag Game Drive has DRM.

  • @Jolt7800
    @Jolt7800 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am definitely considering getting the game drive for the 7800. My biggest hesitation is it being too complicated and problematic. But the Progamer has explained how this gadget works. So it’s definitely on my radar.

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Jolt7800 it's worth getting if you just want to play the games. You can Google something called Trebors Pack for the 7800 And it's literally drag and drop. So easy that a Pro Gamer could do it!

    • @RichardTroupe
      @RichardTroupe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's honestly not difficult to use. Drag and drop your ROMs and you are good to go.

    • @chazb8948
      @chazb8948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes, its worth it, when downloading the ROM files, look at the games and trash the PAL games, its the same as NSTC games, just PAL game will not work well, PAL games works for other countries. But do get the game drive, its worth it!

  • @chazb8948
    @chazb8948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do love the Game Drive! I do have the Game Drive for the Atari 7800 and Atari Jaguar! The Jaguar Game Drive, some CD games don't work, so what I did and maybe no one didn't think this. I spit the Cartridge and CD games on two different micro cards and when trying the CD games on the gamedrive, almost all of them worked very good, except a few, like two or three games. Well that's fine with me. I enjoyed them, I need to get the Lynx game drive as well. Thanks for the video, keep it up!

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chazb8948 having multiple SD cards isn't a bad idea. Have one as your daily driver and one for experimenting with different roms and cd files. I like it!

    • @chazb8948
      @chazb8948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheAtariNetwork I use it the one card for both Cartridge and CD. Cartridge games work, some of the CD games don't. So I switch card with CD games and most of the games work without problems. It seems that the program for Cartridge and CD don't like each other on the same drive when trying to play the games. I notice on the 7800 gamedrive, the 7800 and 2600 don't switch games to well, need to turn off the unit and start it back up. I may ended up of getting one more 7800 game drive, since I like the game Rikki & Vikki, I didn't get it, at the time I wasn't sure how good AtariAge at the time, beside I miss Donkey Kong and some others. But something may come up later, no problem for me.

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's too bad the Jag Game Drive has DRM.

  • @ShelfWarmer
    @ShelfWarmer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Give SainT your money so he can develop new Game Drives for more systems and pay rent and buy food, he has worked hard and deserves all the support he can get, and I want that IGS PGM Games Drive one day too lol...

    • @RichardTroupe
      @RichardTroupe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nevermind that... The GameCom community almost got him interested in developing a multicart for that system.

  • @Trialwolf
    @Trialwolf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The 7800 cart is tempting. The HD out option allowing to keep the system stock is a big plus.
    I'm in Canada so currency conversion is a big issue along with shipping and any additional fees the shipper decides to add on.

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Trialwolf there might be a Canadian retailer. I'm not sure though. Sucks about the conversion rate and import fees.

    • @chazb8948
      @chazb8948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheAtariNetwork there is a Canadian site that sells the game drive, I have looked online there is a few out there.

  • @lolcowtv4666
    @lolcowtv4666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If you want to play on original hardware and can afford the flashcart, hell yeah!. Much easier and economical than collecting carts, but if you enjoy collecting them well, to each their own.

  • @Monhamd1000
    @Monhamd1000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flashcarts is a dream for new Atari collectors!
    Also Touhou's Bad Apple just ROARS in the Jaguar glory.

  • @socrates0603
    @socrates0603 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have all the GD for the Jag, Lynx, and now 7800 (along with the extras mentioned). I haven't tried using the Jag GD but its support for CD games made it a no-brainer purchase for me. I specifically held out to buy the 7800 GD from Stone Age Gamer because the SGA version came with Rikki and Vikki (I have a physical copy).
    YMMV but I love buying from SGA for one other reason -- SGA offers memory cards that will work with these type of products. I used to buy memory cards on my own, and too often, I had issues with them not being recognized on the GD or Everdrive (let's not get into fake/genuine discussion). SGA will sell the memory card separately from the drive cartridge, and that has saved me a lot of aggravation.

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's too bad the Jag Game Drive has DRM.

  • @jeremiahthomas8140
    @jeremiahthomas8140 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I do not have any of these. I have a preloaded 5200 multicart, I was never going to be able to get Bounty Bob Strikes Back, and a TurboEverdrive that I have not used even once.

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jeremiahthomas8140 right but it was a legally obtained ROM of Bounty Bob Strikes Back because you thought you would never own it but then you did.
      Just kidding I don't care

    • @jeremiahthomas8140
      @jeremiahthomas8140 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @TheAtariNetwork Fortunately, Bounty Bob Strikes Back is owned by Atari now, so we get to see it on collections.

  • @willweisgerber245
    @willweisgerber245 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love gamedrive. Good video. Only thing I’d mention is that the Jaguar gamedrive does not provide save support on the Jaguar CD games.

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's too bad the Jag Game Drive has DRM.

  • @Mrshoujo
    @Mrshoujo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have El Cheapo SD for the Lynx from BenVenn. I would buy the others if they weren't so expensive.

  • @derpnooner
    @derpnooner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got a GD for my Jag and have issues on a couple of games. NBA Jam TE sound borks up after 2-5 mins playing and Attack of the Mutant Penguins goes complete crash mode after letting the attract loop play twice. Every other game and homebrew work fine. Even the CD games work, but the one game I really wanted this thing for doesn’t work. Atari forums suggested my Jaguar is damaged… but only on those games? I dunno.
    3/5 stars.

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My Jaguar messes up on Doom. It doesn't matter if it's the real cart, a multicart or the game drive. It just doesn't work unless I play another game for like an hour and then play doom. Otherwise the bottom is corrupted and it crashes

    • @derpnooner
      @derpnooner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheAtariNetwork The members of the forum were saying the chips are fickle (tom and jerry)… maybe there is damage on our Jags. :(

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's too bad the Jag Game Drive has DRM.

  • @ThePbrook1967
    @ThePbrook1967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love my Game Drives for the 7800 and Jaguar! I also love my Concerto cart. Knock on wood, I haven't had any issues yet.

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's too bad the Jag Game Drive has DRM.

    • @ThePbrook1967
      @ThePbrook1967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Inferon44 what’s that?

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The cart will prevent you from playing certain games. Check out the article from RetroRGB for the firmware v1.11 if you would like more details. Bob gave a better writeup than I could.

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's DRM on the cart since version 1.11 of the firmware. It can lock out games, defeating the purpose of a flashcart.

  • @truckertoddllc
    @truckertoddllc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve never played a jaguar game that I thought was good but I love my 5200

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks.

  • @chriswalker8361
    @chriswalker8361 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the 7800 game drive unit play pal versions of games? Would love to be able to play the 7800 version of sentinel

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chriswalker8361 it says it's compatible with NTSC and PAL. But there is a conversion of Sentinel out there for NTSC displays so you could easily download that and play it.

    • @chriswalker8361
      @chriswalker8361 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheAtariNetwork mind blown….ill be picking one up!

    • @lolcowtv4666
      @lolcowtv4666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I tried 4 PAL software, 3 worked.(of course I wasn't able to see the screen lower portion I'm in the NTSC region) Hope it helps.

  • @cyrollan
    @cyrollan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would also play only legally obtained Jag CD games.

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cyrollan oh absolutely!

  • @RichardTroupe
    @RichardTroupe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are they worth purchasing?
    Short answer: yes.
    Long answer: yes.

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love this comment. If I could heart it harder I would

    • @Inferon44
      @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct answer: No.
      The manufacturer is the only one I know that ever installed DRM on a flash cartridge. What a boneheaded idea.

  • @seanshepard2000
    @seanshepard2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I get that these don't work on the 2600+, but I wonder if anyone has done this experiment: simply load 1 rom onto the SD card (instead of an entire list) - shouldn't THAT work? For those of us who just would love to play some of these roms, I think this would be an acceptable trade-off to, at least, be able to play the stuff - I know it's not super convenient, but would it work?? Curious if anyone knows the answer to this - if I knew it would work, I would buy one to be able to play the rom collection I have

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@seanshepard2000 so it wouldn't because the 2600+ is essentially a ROM dumper but the menu for most flashcarts are not a ROM. So the 2600 + can't find what it needs to dump and simply fails

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@seanshepard2000 this is also why the dragonfly does work because it loads one ROM at a time into memory before you boot the console up. But the dragonfly is currently not being produced...

    • @seanshepard2000
      @seanshepard2000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheAtariNetwork I see - that makes sense - too bad they can't come up with SOME kind of work-around for that, but I get it - thanks for the explanation, actaully makes much more sense now! (love the channel!)

  • @KrooTon
    @KrooTon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    But the question MUST be asked… why is there not a 5200 cart with the 2600-compatibility/cart plug on top? Because the 5200 would have been the best Atari system if they’d worked out the controllers…

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KrooTon that's a good question and I don't know the answer. The only 5200 flashcart that I know of (and use) is the Atari Max...

    • @marcelosoares7148
      @marcelosoares7148 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would probably need a built in FPGA chip to act as the 2600 hardware and the 5200 is arguably the most ignored Atari console, so i guess it all boils down to low interest by the people that could manufacture it.

    • @KrooTon
      @KrooTon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marcelosoares7148 story of my life 😢

    • @RandomEncounterShow
      @RandomEncounterShow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KrooTon Because the 5200 was on Atari 8 bit architecture, the only way it could play 2600 games would be either conversions or having the 5200 emulate the 2600 hardware. Honestly the way to go would be an atari 8 bit computer as the full library of 5200 roms are available plus the benefit of having the massive A8 library. One last benefit would be not having to deal with hardware that is failure prone as the 5200 is.

    • @KrooTon
      @KrooTon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RandomEncounterShow Oh they made the conversion module, I had one with my original back in the day (that was stolen). As it turns out, they're pretty rare and kinda pricey. Still salty about that. No I meant, why do they not have the retro-modern-clones (like the new one - 2600-plus or whatever?) with the 5200 slot for modern playability of the original carts?! BECAUSE the 5200 is so... ahem... fragile as a platform, it'd be nice if they gave its modest library at least a SHOT of getting some love. The 5200 had by far the best ports of Pac-Man, Moon Patrol... and the goofy phone-number controllers were perfect for football.

  • @Inferon44
    @Inferon44 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely not. I got a Jag GD, and the developer added DRM to it after my purchase! What a boneheaded idea! What's stopping a company (besides apathy) like Ubisoft from demanding the flashcart no longer play their games like Rayman?
    When it came time for me to purchase my flashcarts for other Atari consoles I looked elsewhere, and I encourage everyone else to do the same. This guy does not deserve your support.

  • @GTV-Japan
    @GTV-Japan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I say no, just stick with a computer emulator! but hey its a free country

  • @thedude5295
    @thedude5295 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nah man. Not worth it at all. I've been emulating for 25 years now. For $100 I could get 3 used laptops with HDMI outputs and put my own heavily curated and organized collection of games, artwork and other media for over 20,000 games spanning dozens of systems over decades on 3 different laptops with HD outputs to give to all of my friends and family. Something I have been doing recently to upgrade the modded XBoxes I'd given them around 10 years or so ago. The input lag on modern tech is negligible, and unless you're a top-tier speed runner you're not going to notice it (and even in that case I doubt that it exists and it's just in their heads). Ditch the old hardware for good. Sell your old junk to moron speculators for high prices and let them put it all in cases where they'll never play them.

    • @TheAtariNetwork
      @TheAtariNetwork  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@thedude5295 people enjoy playing and collecting this old junk. Myself included. You're clearly not the market for this product and that's fine. But it's quite worth it for those who want a flashcart solution for their original hardware. Top notch.

    • @thedude5295
      @thedude5295 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheAtariNetwork If I didn't have emulation I would have probably deleted my brother after he traded in all of our video game consoles and carts when me and my other brother moved out. Emulation saves lives. :) I'm a minimalist today. I have a big house all to myself but I don't need to dedicate a room or two to a bunch of old junk when I can have everything on a single laptop. In the case of Atari it's even better, IMO, since I never have to worry about using their garbage joysticks again too. Admittedly though, 5200 emulation is a real pain. Every time I change from one platform to another I have to spend a day or two re-coding all the controls for the games. Not only did the system use all sorts of different control schemes for each game that don't play well with emulation otherwise, but because all the 5200 emulators share emulation with the 800 system, nobody has ever made a good 5200 emulator that just works without a ton of tweaking. It does work though if you put the time and effort into it. Speculators ruined game collecting and inflated prices unnaturally. I don't have money to waste on things like that anymore, especially when there are much better ways to play everything if you put the time into it. To each their own.

  • @RandomEncounterShow
    @RandomEncounterShow 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The game drives arnt playing on original hardware though, only through it. It's an emulator on a chip you are plugging into the console. An expensive way to end up emulating a console when you have the console 🤪.

    • @derpnooner
      @derpnooner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s not emulation. The game drives load actual ROM data into flash memory. Console reads it just like it was the actual rom. Some emulate helper chips though (like Sega’s SVP or the Nintendo FX chips), but the Jag game drive and the majority of Mega Ever Drives for example are reading legit rom data, just like it was the cartridge.

    • @RandomEncounterShow
      @RandomEncounterShow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@derpnooner I am well aware how flash carts work, but this isnt a flash cart. It has a "core" aka firmware emulation which from what I can read appears to be the A7800/A2600 emulators respectively. Of course all the "helpers" are part of the same core emulation. This at best can be called a pass through device as is it passes through the console and also gets inputs from the console but the actual game play is via emulation. One big clue should be the fact that it has save states, cheat menus ect that are only possible via emulation.

    • @derpnooner
      @derpnooner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RandomEncounterShow I’m unsure of the 7800 or 2600 offerings, but the Jag Game Drive is not emulation. There aren’t save state options on the Jag Game drive that I’m aware of. CD works only because the Jag CD didn’t feature any custom hardware. Just a drive expansion. Though, I’m not 100% on that bit… my guess is it just opens a stream from the sd card. Maybe some emulation for buffering at the desired rate, but no emulation of Tom or Jerry by any means.

    • @RandomEncounterShow
      @RandomEncounterShow 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@derpnooner You may be right on the Jag Game Drive, definitely the 7800 game drive is just plugging an emulator into the console. Neat but way over priced as a way to run emulation.

  • @thewolfdog123
    @thewolfdog123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you're living in the past because you know Atari game sucked really bad and yeah there's already a channel for all the sucky games out there so do you think people want to play Atari games