@Ben P The Saudi pilots weren't the primary cause of the disaster. Plus, they weren't the only ones at fault, specifically the ground crew who failed to open the doors for 23 minutes. On the other hand, the soviet pilots were wholly at fault for this accident.
@@darthinvaderzimm Because it was only partially off and was still controlling the rudder and elevators. The root issue is that the Russian pilots had no idea that there even was such a thing as a 'partial autopilot disconnect' because nobody bothered to tell them.
That's actually a whole lot better way to die than most people do. It's instant and painless. The little fear you feel for a few seconds is nothing. Imagine laying in your bed slowly decaying from cancer... MUCH WORSE!
Yes! That's so unprofessional of them! Somebody should've just slap those kids (and the dad!) and send them back to the passengers seat. Spoiled kids. 😬 I feel so bad for the passengers, they must've screamed the whole last few acrobatics minutes of their lives..... 😭
Well, try to explain that to most parents. They let their brats by with just about anything because of the "immense love" they have for them. Stupid morons. If you truly love your children you teach them to be decent human beings and not selfish brats. Sadly, our society is full of people like this
Many of the passengers were probably not wearing seat belts during this whole thing, so they were likely tossed around like confetti. Can't imagine their terror.
@@pascalxavier3367 this isn't murder. Murder is when you wake up in the morning knowing you're gonna crash the plane (see Germanwings 9525). This is involuntary manslaughter at best. Not that it really matters, the guy responsible is still dead.
@@fayeslover Precisely, I have serious doubts on the accident of the Germanwings; a pilot has pointed out plenty of abnormal things which discredit the theory of the copilot being responsible of the crash. That day, the americans were making tests with a laser gun on a target they had launched the eve, and the plane would have been caught in a laser shot, harming it, invalidating its commands, and causing its crash. They had to cover up their blunder by reporting the guilt on the copilot. There had already been a such incident before, with a plane making a very sudden fall, but, in this previous incident, the pilots had miraculously managed to recover the plane before it would crash. They would have tampered the black boxes before they would be found.
I was watching that show "air disasters" on this incident. When the Black boxes were recovered and they were listening to the cockpit voice recorder they couldn't believe what they were hearing that the pilot allowed his son to fly the plane.
Corpulent Allgod captain Sully ditched his A320 in the Hudson at about 130 knots. It only lost an engine and a couple of flaps on impact. I don’t think anything came off the fuselage.
@@tycobandit What was the FO doing while this aircraft first entered a 45 degree bank? I mean why didn't the FO take manual control then instead of just watching it get worse. strange I mean i know hes new to the Airbus but why let it do it
His son clearly had a higher mental age than him... I mean, the kid literally noticed the issue (the plane was turning) before either of the 'experienced' pilots did.
Why the hell didn’t they stop the kid right at the second they noticed that the plane started turning right on itself??? He could’ve just told him “okay you’ve done enough now go back to your sit and let me fly it.” But still they let the kid continue doing the thing. oh my goodness!! How Irresponsible was that!?
@@noahgoulet6683 15 years old. A teenager. I'd get it if it was a 7 year old and they didn't understand why it was turning but if you're 15 and you dont know why somethings turning to the right and you are turning the controller to the right you're a special type of stupid
The crash with the Brazilian soccer team a couple years ago is a hot competitor. Too many stupid and selfish people in positions where they can hurt people...
This definitely takes the cake but there is another contender, Saudia flight 163. Three stooges in the cockpit, literally!! That one made my blood boil!
siemniak no, many car crash accident victims die in hospital. My dad was hit by a car and was in and out of a coma for days suffering. Some people survive air crashes, an American Airlines 757 crashed in Colombia and everyone sat over the wings survived because it’s the strongest part of the aircraft
Rudy Cooper see my other comment, many air crash victims survive. Statistically more people are killed by cars every year than plane crashes. Statistically, you are more likely to die in a car accident than an air accident. If you’re afraid of flying then you should be afraid of driving too
the pilots either thought it was the AP or they were distracted and looking else where. of course the teen would notice right away since he was actually moving the controls.
Geez.. when I was 9 yrs old, I was allowed to see the cockpit.. WHILE THE PLANE WAS SITTING ON THE GROUND. And I wasn't allowed to touch.. what a concept. Just wow
The irony here being that had the pilots done absolutely nothing, they would’ve at least achieved something but since they tried to do something, they instead achieved absolutely nothing.
@@JasonHaines1974 That’s why it’s ironic. The autopilot was what the pilots must’ve thought was triggering the whole event, when in reality, it’s what actually would’ve saved them. The safety system built into the A310 would’ve pulled the plane out of the corkscrew dive.
@@somerandomguy4812: I wonder if pilots have to watch films that point this out ?? I still tend to believe there was liquor in some of those incharge. I hope it was repeatedly pointed out to the relatives of the dead, so that they know the fault was on the pilots, not the plane malfunctioning.
An impressive video of a horrible accident. I could understand if you let children say hello and have a look in the cockpit. But its unforgivable to let them sit at captain's place!
"Oh, but if we don't let the child in the cockpit, it will hurt their feelings" *Kid crashes the plane *Everyone dies *BUT WE CAN'T HURT THEIR FEELINGS!*
@@nyasforehead2851 A real animal indeed.how can someone say a tin like dat. meaning the child did nothing wrong for causing the death of innocent souls all in the name of pleasing him. Let her go give her child d key to her car so he can drive her to work tomorrow.
The worst part is that the NTSB report concluded that if they had done nothing but turn the autopilot back on, the plane would have automatically corrected itself and been fine.
@ rob mausser: That's true too bad the pilots don't keep up with technology, I don't think any pilots would touch the yoke when the autopilot is on, too bad they found out the hard way,
@@Heart2HeartBooks the kid had very little to do with it. The first thing that should have caught their attention was the increase in bank beyond the limits of the aircraft, which they would have cause long before the g forces would have made it difficult to gain control. Then overcompensating at every single maneuver, how did these guys have 9,000 hours of experience and be that terrible at controlling their aircraft?
@@VeteranSoldier honestly they must been high on crack or something bc i can't believe the stupidity i just watched. I lived 21 years and never had seen this big stupidity, amazing
@@VeteranSoldier prob because in developing countries the pilots are taught the basics, and thats it. they become nothing more than "assistants/attendents" to the AI autopilots that pretty much fly the plane the majority of the flight. they assumed the autopilot had total control of the plane which lead them down a path to total destruction. spur of the moment critical thinking skills, to evaluate and correct whatever problem(s) was nonexistent, leading to their demise..
Anyone with a few hours in Flight Simulator would know what a stall looks like. Anyone with a few hours in an Airbus in MFS would know how to tell the autopilot isn't working right. These pilots are pillocks that should not have been allowed at the steering wheel of a car, let alone a plane.
Teksal1 Ignore that fool brother. This is someone who thinks that people should be allowed in the cockpit, not to mention children that can't even fix a tie....never mind flying a plane. Clearly a lunatic.
You haven't met my child. We raise children to become adults, so don't treat them like children. Personal responsibility is the key to successful living.
Is that even legal? I mean, unless his child is unusually obedient, bad judgement, deadly judgement. Playing musical captain for a while. How unprofessional.
I've always been fascinated by planes, even when I was a kid. If my father was a pilot, I would be content with the chance to sit in the jump seat in the cockpit for a few minutes. It's one thing to let your kids sit at the controls when the plane is off and on the ground. But why would you risk your own life and the lives of the people on board to give your kids 2 minutes of fun? My mom's got a friend that's a pilot, and his kids fly with him all the time. Sometimes, they sit in the jump seat, but that's it. His kids think it's awesome that their dad is a pilot, and they'd never ask, nor would he ever let them sit in the captain's seat during a flight.
This seriously wasn’t the kids fault. Those two pilots clearly drank too much vodka in order to recover from 2 stalls and still crash the fucking plane.
I wouldnt think anyone without relevant authority should be allowed to enter the cockpit in the 1st place, even if they do not intend to tamper with the controls. Its better to err on the side of caution than to risk the lives of hundreds of people including yourself
Just imagine the plight of the passengers sitting in the cabin when such a heavy aircraft started rolling, spinning like a toy in the middle of the sky without any prior warning from the crew, couldn't fathom what they had been through before dying,they might not have had gotten enough time to even strap up for the upcoming spin...
I hope they had passed out from the g forces, otherwise it would be absolutely terrifying. The pilots were obviously panicking, so I can’t imagine what was said over intercoms if they even managed to do so
Nostalgia Nerd mate It truly is. It's sad that a pilot wanted his children to fly a plane (or at least make them feel like they're flying it) and he got killed by a tragic accident
the problem is not the child in the cockpit (not only at least) the problem is that should be an easy task for 2 trained pilots to recover a plane at 28000 ft that just made a steep turn.
Now, there's aural warnings when autopilot is disengaged. At this time, I think the only indication for autopilot disengaging was a light, which can easily be overlooked in a situation like this.
The more of these I watch, the more convinced I am that for the most part airlines pluck airport janitors and put them in pilots uniforms to cut back on costs.
What annoys me is when the captain's yelling at the kid for not getting them out of an aircraft emergency with the controls, saying "you see the danger, no?". The captain put the kid in that situation, and then expects the kid to do the captain's emergency management for him?
@@TARS.. i know that's what normal people would do. When i was watching the part where captain and first officer were yelling "LEFT!" "RIGHT!" I was like wtf man, it's an emergency situation, take over the goddamn plane, why are u still instructing ur kid!
Yeah, he probably slapped Eldar upside the head -😂🤣🤣🤣😂- “you see us speeding towards the lights at 700+ kilometers, the lights are on the ground, not to mention the severe G-force making it impossible for you to leave my seat, so how about pulling us out of this stall already even tho you’re a ballet student and haven’t the first clue how to fly a jumbo jet!” what can I say? Russians are weird man
He couldn’t retake his seat because of the dive. The only time he could retake his seat he did . If the plane wasn’t in a g force while In a emergency the pilot would do retook his seat immediately
You have the heroic pilot Captain Bob Pearson (Air Canada Flight 143) who safely landed a 767 on a racetrack after running out of fuel mid-flight and then there’s this dude.
@@Nathanator How would they know? It was dark outside. The flight computer became unreliable due to Pitot tube failure. They didn't know which instruments to believe. They didn't know 2nd Officer Bonin still had control of the sidestick he was pulling on. You reckon they should have just known up from down? Stall from dive? Just known it? Go read up on 'somatogravic' illusion.
I remember when I was child about 7years old so back in 1996. Flying to lapland the pilots let all the kids in the plane go in to cockpit in 2s to see it fly it was amazing we didn't touch anything but it was amazing and an experience I'll never forget
it was later concluded that if they had just let go of the control column, the autopilot would have automatically taken action to prevent stalling, thus avoiding the accident.
these were not kids, but teenagers; they really should have more sense. and shame on the pilot for even allowing them to sit in the chairs and touch the buttons. when you have other people's lives in your hands, you need to take your flight even more seriously. smh RIP to the innocent victims
Blair Group do you understand that because this father allowed his teens to pretend-fly a plane, hundreds of lives died?? this wasn't some father that let his kids pretend-drive a car in an empty parking lot. this isn't about love for your kids; this is about a responsibility to uphold safety when you have other people's lives in your hands. so this father loves his kids more than i do? his "love" cost his kids their lives. i love my kids enough not to put them in danger. so i don't love my kids because i won't let them fly a plane when there are other passengers? what if i let them drive my car in an empty parking lot afterwards though? think completely before you make such a harsh claim.
Blair Group my denomination has nothing to do with this; no matter what denomination, hundreds of people died because a father let his kids play on the job
Blair Group so pilots should allow their kids to play with the airplane while the plane is full of innocent passengers and put those lives at risk. you spoil your child with gifts toys and money . you don't let them do things that pit others lives in danger. this father killed every person on that plane. do you not understand that his children are now dead because he allowed them to play with the plane . spoiling his kids cost them their lives . what about all the children who lost their parents because they died on that plane. those children grew up without their parents . I hope you don't have children because with your beliefs they will be a danger to our planet . would you really let your children fly an airplane they did not know anything about while you had passengers on board. how do you not see how wrong this man was to allow this .
Blair Group of you needed an operation on your heart would it be acceptable for the heart surgeon to allow his children in the operating room and allow them to perform part of the operation even though they have never done it before . should you allow your children to play with guns that are loaded. as a parent you have an obligation to keep them safe what a the point of spoiling them if the act of spoiling them will kill them . do you spoil your kids by allowing them to do drugs steal and commit crimes . how do you not see that this father killed his children and other children and other children parents. how manu families did tis man destroy . loving your children means you keep them safe . you are the one who does not love your children .I hope you don't have any because they are in danger being in your care. you don't allow children to fly airplanes because the bible says spoil your children. . the bible did not mean spoil your children by allowing them to do things that are harmful and dangerous to themselves and others .
freddy 123 ikr. Recently took a flight from Bradley int’ to Orlando, and all sorts of videos like this popped into my recommendations while I was sitting in the airport waiting for my flight.
Your videos are very impressive. The details not only enlighten but also make you feel petrified of how simple a mistake can cause such an unmatched loss. Feeling sorry for everyone who had to go through so much before they died.
"Don't run in first class, or they'll fire us." Ah yes. You can come in here and fly the plane at risk of us dying, but running in first class is inexcusable.
Rooster Cogburn well, at least since then all our pilots are prohibited to let anyone into cockpit. Even pilots NEVER exit it until the end of flight. So, when Chechen terrorists tried to make something like 9/11 (in 2001 too, but prior to those events, to be honest) in our country, they weren't able to get into cockpit and just diverted the plane to Saudi Arabia where they landed it and subsequently were shot or apprehended by Saudi special forces. Imagine what would have happened if they were able to break into the cabin...
They were not children… But teenagers I'm just so shocked that they insisted on playing with shit anyways and that Dad or whatever allowing them to even do it I wouldn't even let my kids come in there by me if I were that person like 100+ lives isn't that big of a deal
Patrick T Hahahaha yea I think 10:45 sums up the professionalism of the pilots nicely, even if the child had screwed things up they had a chance to safely return things to normal and instead they stall again immediately after a nose dive with this? Rip
Bunch of morons... There are plenty of great Russian pilots out there. There are idiot pilots in other countries as well. But your countries will soon hire ahmeds and mohammeds as your pilots because there will be no more whites left.... Now that's a real LOL!
I'm a retired airline pilot here in the United States. Of course we (pilots) heard about this. @4:00 I had to stop watching because I was going to cry. Maybe I can watch it later....
Thank you for the work you’ve done. I’ve flown many many many times and I respect the quality pilots out there. I’ve had a chance to fly a plane for a minute or two while we were already up in my friends dads plane, it was something small and I was about 16, and it was the most amazing feeling, but I can’t imagine that in a MUCH bigger plane on top of the hundreds of lives you know that you’re responsible for. You guys do great work.
I know my heart stopped when the plane started corkscrewing, even though it's just a recreation..But if it's any consolation, thanks for being a great pilot..I feel like the US has some of the best pilots in the world..I mean we rarely have crashes in this country..That really says something..Peace and Blessings.
I am a private pilot. My instructor was a 63 year old crop duster and retired commercial pilot. That was in back 1977. and I was 17 at the time. He had been flying for forty + years. If there is one thing he taught me, pay attention to your situation at all times, forget the damn automation, and fly the damn airplane, don't let it fly you. It's rather obvious that these pilots lacked the basic flight skills and relied too heavily on the automation. If they had just turned off the damned autopilot when the "unexpected turn" commenced, gotten the plane back on course, then re-engaged, this could have all been avoided. I realize that today these systems are pervasive and sometimes hard to override (i.e. 737 Max leaps to mind) but today's pilots simply allow their basic skills to become secondary to their reliance on the automation.
Even with one of the kids unintentionally fucking up, it still sounds like the pilots had numerous chances to save the craft and avert danger. But their biggest gross incompetence was even allowing a couple of kids into the cockpit IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!
Yep. SAD! Those kids did not crash the aircraft. The pilots made *BAD* decisions: Failed to properly correct in a timely manner (kids hands off!) Immediately reset autopilot and retake their seats!) Then, they caused that final crash, "manually".
Agreed. Just like you blame the manager instead of the workers at a fast food joint for bad service (because the manager is the one who hired the incompetent workers), you don't blame the kids; you blame the idiot pilots who were in charge and allowed them to kill innocent people. I don't feel bad at all for anyone on this plane other than the innocent passengers and flight attendants.
When the plane started to corkscrew I gasped.... I can only imagine the screams from the passagners..... I feel bad for the pilot`s wife. She lost her husband, and kids. My heart goes out to every life lost, and just having to go through all that before your death is horrible!
vaya:414 The boy must have been horrified thinking it was his fault >.< I can't understand how a parent would think it was ok to put anybody that hadn't been trained in the cockpit let alone kids.
its not trolling.. it is truth and history right now.. You can ask families of victims what do they think about yheir actions... I am pretty sure you could get muchmore harsh answer than my.
Engin Erikli The lack of the autopilot’s response could be chalked up to the programming. When Eldar turned the plane to the right, he pulled too hard which caused the autopilot to turn off as a safety measure. When the pilot’s took control of the plane, it too prevented the autopilot from turning back on due to their efforts. Ironically had the pilots just let go of the control column, the autopilot would turned back on and leveled the plane, preventing the crash.
I would've thrown the kid out of the seat the moment I noticed there's a problem if I was the captain. Shouldn't it be common sense to not let a kid fly a plane? Flight simulators exist.
ya Lauma What was the FO doing while this aircraft first entered a 45 degree bank? I mean why didn't the FO take manual control then instead of just watching it get worse. strange I mean i know hes new to the Airbus but why let it do it
It’s not so much a kids being in the cockpit problem, it’s more of a kids sitting in a pilots chair problem and irresponsible parents. Most airlines still allow for kids to sit supervised in the flight engineers spot.
WHAT PILOTS NEED TO KNOW : no matter how skilled u are and how well u have flown in the past u cannot get cocky or overconfident. piloting amazingly wont give u any extra prize but piloting below par would leave u in danger.
This is insane! I'm not a heavy pilot, just a Commercial Instrument Rated / Complex / Multi Pilot. The first thing if my plane is turning by itself is going to be check the Autopilot for problems. Next, I would disengage the Autopilot and FLY THE PLANE. It does have instruments! This all started over an unintentional banking turn. These guys sounded like system operators rather than real pilots. With as many hours as they all had, this should never even come close to happening! Absolutely Senseless!
Chris Cunningham if I'm not mistaken, aviate, navigate, communicate is the order of Precedence. It seems like all they were doing is communicating. I agree totally that nobody bothered to aviate until you had a complete upset situation where there was not enough altitude to recover.
Not tryin to be a droll a-hole but shouldn't the 1st rule be "no horsing around with kids in the cockpit?" I'd bet no passenger on that flight would have thought that screwing around with the auto pilot for the entertainment of 2 kids seemed like a swell idea! Just sayin'
@@Namal23 - YEP, right about the time that COMMON SENSE really began a free fall. It is now almost non-existent. What PROFESSIONAL would have ever done such a STUPID THING? NONE that I personally know, thank God.
Wait... It's bad enough that children were allowed in the crew cabin at all during flight, but even after they recognized a problem they continued to let the boy have at the controls?!?! Are you that insanely incompetent? My gosh, please tell me there aren't many more pilots out there like that. I swear, I watch some of these air disasters and half of them should never have happened in the first place.
i think it was mentioned that the captain was facing the increased G-Force which troubled him and the first officer to reach the seat, and it seems like minutes but actually it happened in seconds...
There was similiar event in Indonesia. Luckily the plane did land safely. The event went viral across the country and people raging over the captain’s decision, but he rebuked them while saying ‘They didn’t do anything, the flight end up safely anyway’
Andrew Spoto I’d imagine, it’s sincerely terrifying, but I bet the g forces prolly knocks everyone out before impact... prolly just like dying in your sleep
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@@bjr4567 stupid idiots honestly, real stupid, these ppl should already know to look at their height at all times, climbing or falling to the ground, as well as the screen that tells you if you're flying straight or going up or down, side to side, there is a delay tho, but still, they know better..
I don't know why you would ever think that it's okay to allow your children in the cockpit or yet alone touch anything! This really gets me mad all those people lost their lives and so did your children because of your careless decisions.
Well, 1. Normally you still have someone with training in command, lets say the copilot switches but there still is a pilot 2. This accedent was not the kids fault, he may have started a small problem but if you have thousands of flight hours you should be able to correct said problem 3. People can still visit the cockpit if the pilot consents (watchgoose)
This is by far, the most horrifying story I’ve seen yet. The plane bobbing around in the sky like a damn cork in the ocean. I can’t imagine the absolute terror.
The kid didn't crash the plane. The pilot did. When he took control of the plane it was in a dive Instead of leveling out, he kept on going. The pilot put the plane into an unrecoverable configuration. The pilot must have been drunk. Really strange. Most modern planes, all you have to do is let go of the controls and the plane should level out on it own, unless there is some mechanical failure.
It's believed that first dive made some structural damage to vertical stabilizer so controls became unstable and oversensitive. Doesn't justify pilots actions but the plain was pretty much doomed even before the last dive.
Exactly right. If they just let go of the controls the plane will just level out and fly itself. Thats what a plane is designed to do. Fly not turn or crash. Ita strange
Flight hours mean nothing when the pilots lack training, education, and basic knowledge of how to fly a jet without any instruments. A person with a single engine Cessna visual pilots license knows how to recover from a stall. This is basic. Looks like the pilots had all of their flight hours and training on 'AUTOPILOT' and they got a zero on that cause if they even knew autopilot, they would have known the plane would have recovered via autopilot if they had done nothing...... They need to look at who signed off on giving these pilots their pilots license.....
Auto Pilot disengaging system had no sound nor light alarm. If it had that feature, they would've lived. And yeah, they should've done nothing, auto pilot would've recovered itself. Rip
@@TheKonga88 Back then, it was fairly common for well behaved children to be invited into the cockpit. No one had any idea they were going to let the kid control the plane
10:25 So technically speaking it was not Eldar (the kid) that crashed the plane, but the erroneous handling from the co pilot. Had the co pilot been more gentle with his handling, they would have avoided the disaster. Perhaps it was a mistake that Eldar gave the steering column to the 'experienced' copilot with the 9000+ hours of flight. In any case, what the kid caused was to deploy a situation that revealed that the two pilots were unable to handle it from lack of experience in HAND flying. PS: the stupidity of the pilot who let his kids into the cockpit that defines the life expectancy of people cannot be described.
I suspect they still had hundreds of hours of hand-flying various aircraft, but the modern practice of inputting routes to an autopilot and letting it fly the plane decreases pilots' awareness of the plane's attitude and the positions of its controls. Also, the auto-pilot is so good at co-ordinated turns (which keep the pax's drinks from sliding off their tray tables), unintentional banking and turns are hard to discern. How many of these accidents would have been avoided if the first response to confusing auto-pilot behavior was to immediately disengage the autopilot and hand fly the aircraft straight and leave for a while? Of course, you can never really hand fly an Airbus because it'll insist on doing certain un-commanded actions. Which, in this case - if everyone had just left the cockpit and taken a coffee break - apparently would have dealt with the situation.
Bandit Himself - Yes we are aren't we. What's up ...do you agree most american adults think and reason like children? I think so. I think this problem of childish adults are in all countries around the globe.
I mean the pilot literally told them to NOT touch any buttons and keep their hands on the column stick. They didn’t know that the autopilot would turn off (partially) without a warning
umm no, if pilot was any smart he could recover the plane a few times, but he did mistakes more than once. why would he ascend the plane full vertical after stall
In the first place allowing kids inside the cockpit was a CRIME in itself. Over and above allowing to operate the controls a BLUNDER. A pilot or a driver, has in his hands life of not only the passengers, but also their near, dear & dependents. Let those idiots get killed, but unaware & innocent passengers got killed, for no fault of theirs'. The souls of the dead will never forgive the culprits - whether kids or elders.
Maaaybe this wasn't such a good idea. The pilots should have done this for their kids in a flight simulator. Not a real airliner with passengers on board!
I dont think thats how it happened. The plane was faulty, the co-pilot was in his sit and the father was right behind the chair. So if indeed autopilot was disengaged, the co-pilot would have taken control. The plane went nuts...thats it. Saw the full video on aircrash investigations.
This is really mistitled. Eldar didn't crash the plane, he only caused a slight deviation that any well-trained pilot should have easily corrected. A lot of bad piloting occured here.
NotMyFirstDay: No that's not the only point. Anyone can do a but/for test and isolate one factor and seize upon it as if it's everything. The fact is that unforeseen things happen all the time and competent pilots handle them. This time it was an unnoticed disengagement of the autopilot (what if one of the crew had accidentally done it?), another time it could be a faulty instrument reading, a missed flap check, etc. While I agree that visitors should not be in the cockpit, in this case the boy DID NOT "crash" the plane. The crew was not paying attention. Otherwise one of them would have simply corrected the autopilot, and as you say, it would have landed safely. Even if it weren't corrected immediately, a competent crew wouldn't have sat there in bewilderment over what was happening and what to do.
Go back and read the captions again. Eldar did crash the plane. For some reason the captain didn't take back the pilot seat when Eldar told them the plane was turning by itself. They told him to turn left . . . NO! THE OTHER LEFT!. hahaha Co-pilot should have immediately taken control while captain got back in the chair.
In the video they said G-forces didn't allow the pilots to take back controls, they were stranded in their seats, probably couldn't even raise their arms (only fighter pilots are trained to control a plane in high Gs), only the kid had his hands already on the controls... but still even after that, they could had easily regained control of the plane when G-forces were lower.
Excellent video, outstanding! But on this one, I’m sorry, but children SHOULD NOT be allowed into the cockpit AT ALL during flight, let alone be able to sit in the seat and touch the controls! Father to them or not, that is unacceptable, and it really shouldn’t have happened. Rest in Peace passengers & crew.
True. I do blame the pilots for not watching him properly, but I still find it a stupid decision to let a KID in the cockpit of a commercial airliner full of paying passengers, and then let him ‘feel’ like he is moving it. It was obviously going to end badly, it is such a high risk, and I simply no not agree with it. Children should only be allowed into the cockpit when the aircraft is on the ground on stand, unless something else (a cockpit flight) is booked. Family, relatives or what it doesn’t make a difference. No kids in the cockpit of a flying commercial airplane full of PAX. Simple.
Letting the kids "turn left" is somewhat careless, but not that fatal just by itself. Letting the plane turn to nearly 90 degree bank and not touching anything is a whole lot of strange, considering the maximum bank angle under AP should be less than 30 degrees, but there is another thing I can't wrap my head around - how a trained pilot with 9000 hours and 800 on the aircraft, or any licensed pilot for that matter, overcorrects a dive all the way to vertical ?
Definitely not! The pilots killed everyone with their inability to fly a fully functioning, and essentially new, aircraft. There was no mechanical faults. That plane should never have crashed. I highly doubt any of the 'pilots' credentials. And they should be held in disgrace for all eternity.
The video doesn't mention, but the A310 was a relatively new jet for Aeroflot around that time so pilots didn't know what was going on with the autopilot. The relief captain believed that the autopilot was flying the plane instead of the child and the only sign of manual control for the ailerons was a red flash on the panel which can go unnoticed by the pilots. Even though Aeroflot chose their top pilots to fly the then-new A310, it doesn't mean they have full knowledge of the avionics, especially since this is their first series with many computers and automation. The accident investigation also found one feature that could have used to save the jet from diving... the anti-stall system. The pilots just had to let go of the control stick to allow the anti-stall system to activate. It's sad that none of Aeroflot's pilots knew about it before this crash.
This might be the most idiotic thing I've ever seen in my whole life.
If there's anything worse out there aviation related, I've never heard it.
@Ben P which crash?
@Ben P thx. For some reason I got the notification 4 weeks later lol
@Ben P This is more idiotic. Those saudi pilots didn't cause the fire. They only mishandled it.
@Ben P The Saudi pilots weren't the primary cause of the disaster. Plus, they weren't the only ones at fault, specifically the ground crew who failed to open the doors for 23 minutes. On the other hand, the soviet pilots were wholly at fault for this accident.
the most terrifying part is that the kid noticed the plane is turning before the pilots .
Oviraptorus Lol
Ik usually if u have autopilot and it starts turning out of the blue u should probs restart the autopilot
What's even more terrifying is that they didnt even think that maybe the autopilot got disengaged when it did start turning.
@@darthinvaderzimm Because it was only partially off and was still controlling the rudder and elevators. The root issue is that the Russian pilots had no idea that there even was such a thing as a 'partial autopilot disconnect' because nobody bothered to tell them.
@@OryAlle they had 1000 hours in the A310 each, they fucking knew.
This is a clear example of how people joke around with the lives of others. Total tragedy.
Its always those that say "when its their time to go", that they take others with them.
@@solidust23imagine what the passengers were thinking when that thing was pointed straight up ,upside down then straight down 😰
I don’t think this is what they meant by bring your kid to work day.
😂😂😂
Lmfao💀
Imagine what hell the passengers felt during that fall. RIP to the victims.
I can't even. It's an absolutely awful way to die.
All the passengers were like "wtf bro"
I can't even image rest in peace,
I can't imagine what they must have been feeling and thinking. RIP...
That's actually a whole lot better way to die than most people do. It's instant and painless. The little fear you feel for a few seconds is nothing. Imagine laying in your bed slowly decaying from cancer... MUCH WORSE!
I am surprised that there was no procedure forbidding children to be in the cockpit in the first place
There probably was n dad didn't care!! How awful!!!
@@shirleygreer7209 You are probably righ you know
Yes! That's so unprofessional of them! Somebody should've just slap those kids (and the dad!) and send them back to the passengers seat. Spoiled kids. 😬 I feel so bad for the passengers, they must've screamed the whole last few acrobatics minutes of their lives..... 😭
make a wish program
If they sit in the Flight Engineer chair and are reasonably well behaved, i see no reason why not to, but this is on a whole new level of idiocy.
Unauthorised person should not be in the cockpit even if they are family... live aircraft is not a toy
No they shouldn't be in the captain's and/or co pilots seats, it a wonderful experience for a kid to see the cockpit
Sho t4π we’ll said dude
@@4hand561 They can see the cockpit as long as it is still on the ground, NOT IN THE AIR!
Well, try to explain that to most parents. They let their brats by with just about anything because of the "immense love" they have for them. Stupid morons. If you truly love your children you teach them to be decent human beings and not selfish brats. Sadly, our society is full of people like this
I once got to turn on fuel pumps on ground on an AA A319 from PHX to MEX
Many of the passengers were probably not wearing seat belts during this whole thing, so they were likely tossed around like confetti. Can't imagine their terror.
And their flailing bodies were probably injuring the people who were seat belted in 😳😰
Apparently all the passengers were found to be buckled into their seats.
They had their seat belts on. Otherwise bodies would have flown into the cockpit.
just like Qantas 72
Yeah . . . buckled, yet mutilated, DEAD ! 💀
Couldn't he just have taken the kids in a Flight Simulator where pilots gets trained? At least better than killing people for their desires!
people, not peoples
Omg! I love your channel! You make awesome videos and I subscribed too! You’re the best channel ever! ❤️
Plain murder!
@@pascalxavier3367 this isn't murder. Murder is when you wake up in the morning knowing you're gonna crash the plane (see Germanwings 9525). This is involuntary manslaughter at best. Not that it really matters, the guy responsible is still dead.
@@fayeslover Precisely, I have serious doubts on the accident of the Germanwings; a pilot has pointed out plenty of abnormal things which discredit the theory of the copilot being responsible of the crash.
That day, the americans were making tests with a laser gun on a target they had launched the eve, and the plane would have been caught in a laser shot, harming it, invalidating its commands, and causing its crash.
They had to cover up their blunder by reporting the guilt on the copilot.
There had already been a such incident before, with a plane making a very sudden fall, but, in this previous incident, the pilots had miraculously managed to recover the plane before it would crash.
They would have tampered the black boxes before they would be found.
I was watching that show "air disasters" on this incident. When the Black boxes were recovered and they were listening to the cockpit voice recorder they couldn't believe what they were hearing that the pilot allowed his son to fly the plane.
Heh son.... We are g forced to the wall over here, maybe you want to give it the $300m plane back to daddy....
Son: hahahahahaha...splat
That's a great show, too. Don't care for much on tv but I'm a fan of that.
@A Frustrated Gamer
No way. That's Oscar shit!
They use actors for that programme. The Russians hearing the Black Box recording were actors
@A Frustrated Gamer a frustrated idiot
That poor plane was a trooper. It was literally in a corkscrew dive and recovered .....that’s wild.
That shocked me that it could do that
it's an Airbus not a Boing Boing.
Corpulent Allgod captain Sully ditched his A320 in the Hudson at about 130 knots. It only lost an engine and a couple of flaps on impact. I don’t think anything came off the fuselage.
@@tycobandit What was the FO doing while this aircraft first entered a 45 degree bank? I mean why didn't the FO take manual control then instead of just watching it get worse. strange I mean i know hes new to the Airbus but why let it do it
@@herobo123456 Especially as it was increasing and getting worse.
The plane was 2 years old. So it had a higher mental age than either the captain or his sprog.
Gold, underrated
I swear the pilot had too much Vodka before this flight.
His son clearly had a higher mental age than him... I mean, the kid literally noticed the issue (the plane was turning) before either of the 'experienced' pilots did.
Ooh
Haha, true that.
Why the hell didn’t they stop the kid right at the second they noticed that the plane started turning right on itself??? He could’ve just told him “okay you’ve done enough now go back to your sit and let me fly it.” But still they let the kid continue doing the thing. oh my goodness!! How Irresponsible was that!?
exactly !
R.E CMHG I AGREE! IT WAS THE PILOTS FAULT!
It was at a 90 degree right, the g forces kept the pilot from taking the seat.
They thought it was autopilot turning for some reason first, when it was 45+ degrees it was too late
they were clueless as to why it was turning....Scary to think they we were not trained in this.
Imagine how the victims’ families must have felt when they realized their loved ones were killed by a incompetent captain and his spoiled son.
@Game Plays 1230
This was in Russia not in the USoA
His son is so small how can you blame home he didn’t know
@@noahgoulet6683 15 years old. A teenager. I'd get it if it was a 7 year old and they didn't understand why it was turning but if you're 15 and you dont know why somethings turning to the right and you are turning the controller to the right you're a special type of stupid
ShoKyre my fuck up o didn’t see his age I figured he was young by how stupid his words seemed
wasted, not spoiled...
This is the single dumbest accident I have ever heard of.
The crash with the Brazilian soccer team a couple years ago is a hot competitor. Too many stupid and selfish people in positions where they can hurt people...
The pilots were so retarded for that one.
@@Coastfog not even close
This definitely takes the cake but there is another contender, Saudia flight 163. Three stooges in the cockpit, literally!! That one made my blood boil!
@@Coastfog nah this one is boss
*_" The autopilot, unable to cope, disengages completely"_*
honestly, same
BAHAHAHAHA
Story of my life.
Autopilot: "What? A kid's at the controls? I am so out of here"
Michael Bluth: that’s it, I’m outta here
@@37thousand Autopilot has left the plane.
i dont even let my cousin (age 10) touch my controller..
of my damn playstation....
a plane?
DeadMan Walking me to.fuc that's nuts kids flying planes.I don't let them touch my Jordans 11.dam
Rrrrrreesst ....in..peeeeeace.
LOL
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i dont even let my son touch my remote
can you imagine the terror of the passengers? tragic
that's why it is so hard for me to fly on a plane :(
siemniak you’re more likely to die in a car crash than an air crash
Still, car crash doesn't mean death and you can even have no injuries but plane crash like this is instant death for everyone there.
siemniak no, many car crash accident victims die in hospital. My dad was hit by a car and was in and out of a coma for days suffering. Some people survive air crashes, an American Airlines 757 crashed in Colombia and everyone sat over the wings survived because it’s the strongest part of the aircraft
Rudy Cooper see my other comment, many air crash victims survive. Statistically more people are killed by cars every year than plane crashes. Statistically, you are more likely to die in a car accident than an air accident. If you’re afraid of flying then you should be afraid of driving too
Bring your kid to work day gone wrong.
love this one. but we are both going to hell for this one
**GONE FATAL**
IN THE HOOD
Sovjet Union version
@@madwolf0966 spot on.
So the kids the first to notice a problem with zero training? Weird eh.
It doesnt take training to realise the plane is turning XD
CheezPuff UwU yes but the kids noticed it before the pilots who are highly trained adults
everyone know it turning but the crew think it holding pattern
the pilots either thought it was the AP or they were distracted and looking else where. of course the teen would notice right away since he was actually moving the controls.
Yes, they made fatal assumptions.
they give pilots training to avoid the disaster like this again
how about give them DONT PUT A CHILD IN CONTROL training
Nam Anh Dang 鄧南英 According to them its ok kids can play anywhere even in Cockpit no problem pilot should be trained to be handle the setuation
Shouldn't it be common sense not to let a child into the cockpit in the first place?
You are right
It must
after 9/11 no one is allowed in the cockpit.
Geez.. when I was 9 yrs old, I was allowed to see the cockpit.. WHILE THE PLANE WAS SITTING ON THE GROUND. And I wasn't allowed to touch.. what a concept. Just wow
Same here. Identical story.
Imagine what the fkin passengers would have thought and felt during the stalls and turns
i'd say two things come to mind. 1) what a roller coaster ride this flight is and/or 2) looks like we're going to die.
@@Val_Cosmos Chinese do Hare Krishna ?
@@YoDay No they don't usually. But who knows what got into their mind back then 🤔
poop
@god It crashed into the ground.
The irony here being that had the pilots done absolutely nothing, they would’ve at least achieved something but since they tried to do something, they instead achieved absolutely nothing.
Why would you trust the autopilot at this point though. As far as they knew, the autopilot triggered the banking.
@@JasonHaines1974
That’s why it’s ironic. The autopilot was what the pilots must’ve thought was triggering the whole event, when in reality, it’s what actually would’ve saved them. The safety system built into the A310 would’ve pulled the plane out of the corkscrew dive.
@@somerandomguy4812: I wonder if pilots have to watch films that point this out ?? I still tend to believe there was liquor in some of those incharge. I hope it was repeatedly pointed out to the relatives of the dead, so that they know the fault was on the pilots, not the plane malfunctioning.
Oh they achieved something just not something to be proud of
An impressive video of a horrible accident. I could understand if you let children say hello and have a look in the cockpit. But its unforgivable to let them sit at captain's place!
Kein_ indianer well said
Nope. You'll never know what they will do. They could push a button and you'll never knew.
Take them to a flight simulator. It's safer.
Kein_ indianer Agreed. That's one asinine thing to do. Let him sit in captains chair on the ground.
No, you need to let children explore and have fun. Don't be so selfish.
Definitiv kein indianer
Hätte das überlebt
Son: *Turns control knob to the right*
Son: Why is it turning right?
I think stupidity might run in the family guys.
Not the kid’s fault, the captain takes all the weight for this disaster.
It does, it’s in the genes I tell you
Zero , it’s not intelligent to mess with someone you don’t know.
ThiccHicc , the internet reveals a lot, watch it.
I thought the pilot turned the knob, not the kid.
"Oh, but if we don't let the child in the cockpit, it will hurt their feelings"
*Kid crashes the plane
*Everyone dies
*BUT WE CAN'T HURT THEIR FEELINGS!*
Booga04 Minecraft their fillings are now beyond
This is Russia, man. They don't have Barney the Dinosaur there telling every kid they're special.
it doesn't hurt to cane them as well
@Thor Tron61 You're an animal.
@@nyasforehead2851 A real animal indeed.how can someone say a tin like dat. meaning the child did nothing wrong for causing the death of innocent souls all in the name of pleasing him. Let her go give her child d key to her car so he can drive her to work tomorrow.
The worst part is that the NTSB report concluded that if they had done nothing but turn the autopilot back on, the plane would have automatically corrected itself and been fine.
I have some doubts on that. Probably it is pr from Airbus. The autopilot could not do better before and the plane already was falling from sky.
But they had no clue there was an issue with the autopilot in the first place, therefore, they couldn't have taken that kind of action.
@ rob mausser: That's true too bad the pilots don't keep up with technology, I don't think any pilots would touch the yoke when the autopilot is on, too bad they found out the hard way,
both hand let go the control and the plane will not stall as it is designed not to stall
@@RoadToFuture007 autopilot disengaged due to inputs, if you let go of the stick it corrects itself
Every parent thinks their kids have special abilities. Wrong. Daddy killed himself and his 2 kids. Not to mention all of the passengers. Sad.
@hamoody 12 12 well, obviously their dad remained useless even as adult!
Very Russian story.
💯 th liker
As for the father and his two morons of sons, Darwin's theory of evolution proved to be correct yet again....I am only sorry for the passengers.
Nature taking its course, removing idiots from the gene pool. Drunken Russians!
It does not take a genius to know that a plane shouldn’t be banking at a 90 degree angle. They literally watched the aircraft gradually stall
Does not take a genius to know you should not let a fucking kid take control of a fucking commercial airliner while in flight!!!!!
Rip you :(
@@Heart2HeartBooks the kid had very little to do with it. The first thing that should have caught their attention was the increase in bank beyond the limits of the aircraft, which they would have cause long before the g forces would have made it difficult to gain control. Then overcompensating at every single maneuver, how did these guys have 9,000 hours of experience and be that terrible at controlling their aircraft?
@@VeteranSoldier honestly they must been high on crack or something bc i can't believe the stupidity i just watched. I lived 21 years and never had seen this big stupidity, amazing
@@VeteranSoldier prob because in developing countries the pilots are taught the basics, and thats it. they become nothing more than "assistants/attendents" to the AI autopilots that pretty much fly the plane the majority of the flight. they assumed the autopilot had total control of the plane which lead them down a path to total destruction. spur of the moment critical thinking skills, to evaluate and correct whatever problem(s) was nonexistent, leading to their demise..
these videos always send a shiver down my spine.
bodies aching all the time
This is why I'm always afraid to go on planes, cuz of these vids and the news
Ikr but I still always find myself watching them
Josh omfg I was about to comment that
Josh goodbye....everybody
Imagine dying because the pilot and his kids were playing Flight Simulator
lol ikr
Anyone with a few hours in Flight Simulator would know what a stall looks like. Anyone with a few hours in an Airbus in MFS would know how to tell the autopilot isn't working right. These pilots are pillocks that should not have been allowed at the steering wheel of a car, let alone a plane.
IRL
I wouldn't allow a child to butter my toast in the morning. Oh wait, here's a plane.
These children had a right to be treated like adults!!!!
What does THAT mean? They should not have been in the cockpit.
Teksal1 Ignore that fool brother. This is someone who thinks that people should be allowed in the cockpit, not to mention children that can't even fix a tie....never mind flying a plane. Clearly a lunatic.
You talk about these children as though they are not human!
You haven't met my child. We raise children to become adults, so don't treat them like children. Personal responsibility is the key to successful living.
Allowing kid in the cockpit? Oh my. Did they learn any lessons? Oh wait.
EntoSanto they did for a couple minutes
Crazy Sven Nah. Time is relative bro.
Tbh it wasn't entirely kid's fault it's just that the pilots didn't see that autopilot was partially disengaged
Is that even legal? I mean, unless his child is unusually obedient, bad judgement, deadly judgement. Playing musical captain for a while. How unprofessional.
EntoSanto I think it was Einstein, not Bro.
I've always been fascinated by planes, even when I was a kid. If my father was a pilot, I would be content with the chance to sit in the jump seat in the cockpit for a few minutes.
It's one thing to let your kids sit at the controls when the plane is off and on the ground. But why would you risk your own life and the lives of the people on board to give your kids 2 minutes of fun?
My mom's got a friend that's a pilot, and his kids fly with him all the time. Sometimes, they sit in the jump seat, but that's it. His kids think it's awesome that their dad is a pilot, and they'd never ask, nor would he ever let them sit in the captain's seat during a flight.
Nice life story
Even if they wanted to (the kids) they couldn't, because no one is allowed in the cockpit during a flight
They should not let children near the controls...
This seriously wasn’t the kids fault. Those two pilots clearly drank too much vodka in order to recover from 2 stalls and still crash the fucking plane.
I wouldnt think anyone without relevant authority should be allowed to enter the cockpit in the 1st place, even if they do not intend to tamper with the controls. Its better to err on the side of caution than to risk the lives of hundreds of people including yourself
Just imagine the plight of the passengers sitting in the cabin when such a heavy aircraft started rolling, spinning like a toy in the middle of the sky without any prior warning from the crew, couldn't fathom what they had been through before dying,they might not have had gotten enough time to even strap up for the upcoming spin...
Probably a lot of puke and dookie floating around the cabin going from 5 g to -3g.
They experienced weightlessness
Seeing this re-enactment, I can imagine the terror of the passengers in this deadly roller-coaster before the plane plunged to the ground.
I wonder what they'd think if they knew it was happening because of some bone-head pilot letting his kids try to fly the plane....
lynx yellow that’s all I can think about during these re-enactments, is what is must have been like in the passenger compartments
anybody not belted in got head injuries from hitting the ceiling. Everybody probably threw up.
Plenty of broken bones and fractured skulls, I imagine.
I hope they had passed out from the g forces, otherwise it would be absolutely terrifying. The pilots were obviously panicking, so I can’t imagine what was said over intercoms if they even managed to do so
Pilot: hey kid so you wana be a pilot when you grow up?
Kid: yes
Pilot: Well maybe in the next life. Maybe in the next life eh?
Isn’t that from a parody?
purpandorange it's from some meme
@@purpandorange th-cam.com/video/PyHaxBIXqSM/w-d-xo.html
When I'm seeing this I just watched that video 5 second ago
The kid was a pilot for some seconds. That's the problem.
"look at the ground" "do you see it?" -"yes i see it now dady"
Now they all can see the ground😅
🤦🏽♂️
😂😂😂😂
Emmanuel Houle Saw it too close I think😣
Pilot: is trained has the the qualifications to fly a plane
Son: I wanna fly
Pilot: what’s the worst that could happen?
RIGHT 💯
This is such a sad story.
Nostalgia Nerd mate
It truly is. It's sad that a pilot wanted his children to fly a plane (or at least make them feel like they're flying it) and he got killed by a tragic accident
Nostalgia Nerd So unnecessary. A plane isn't a toy.
Ike I cried
Nice to see you here
the pilot just wanted to be a great dad and give his children a memorable moment.
Not really the best channel to watch at an airport
Ahahahaha why would you watch this there? 😂
Takeda Ranmaru I was flying from LA to NY. I had to pass the time somehow
I have a flight in less than a month and Im starting to regret my dicisions
R8ERN8TION52 lololololol
I fly in about 8 hours Flight 906 GDL to OAK
the problem is not the child in the cockpit (not only at least) the problem is that should be an easy task for 2 trained pilots to recover a plane at 28000 ft that just made a steep turn.
The problem is the idiot that decided a buzzer was not necessary when autopilot partially disables itself from a fault.
Now, there's aural warnings when autopilot is disengaged. At this time, I think the only indication for autopilot disengaging was a light, which can easily be overlooked in a situation like this.
11:10 it was impossible
They let a fucking child fly an airplane I’m pretty sure they weren’t that smart bruh
LadyIsTheChamp kids are innocent. Pilots made that mistake
The more of these I watch, the more convinced I am that for the most part airlines pluck airport janitors and put them in pilots uniforms to cut back on costs.
Janitors would have had more sense than these idiots
@@annab6726 You can easily buy a diploma in a third world country and pilot training is shitty + overall corruption.
Problem is these flights are so automated/guided that the pilots actually forget how to fly.
Scary isn’t it ?!
What annoys me is when the captain's yelling at the kid for not getting them out of an aircraft emergency with the controls, saying "you see the danger, no?". The captain put the kid in that situation, and then expects the kid to do the captain's emergency management for him?
The minute I see any danger I would throw my kid off the seat into the back, let alone let him sit there in the first place
@@TARS.. i know that's what normal people would do. When i was watching the part where captain and first officer were yelling "LEFT!" "RIGHT!" I was like wtf man, it's an emergency situation, take over the goddamn plane, why are u still instructing ur kid!
Yeah, he probably slapped Eldar upside the head -😂🤣🤣🤣😂- “you see us speeding towards the lights at 700+ kilometers, the lights are on the ground, not to mention the severe G-force making it impossible for you to leave my seat, so how about pulling us out of this stall already even tho you’re a ballet student and haven’t the first clue how to fly a jumbo jet!” what can I say? Russians are weird man
They were instructing him because the g force from the nose dive was so strong that they could not move
He couldn’t retake his seat because of the dive. The only time he could retake his seat he did . If the plane wasn’t in a g force while In a emergency the pilot would do retook his seat immediately
You have the heroic pilot Captain Bob Pearson (Air Canada Flight 143) who safely landed a 767 on a racetrack after running out of fuel mid-flight and then there’s this dude.
um it actually was a boeing 767...the gimli glider....
Noted on the correction
And then you have Air France Flight 447, when all three pilots ignore that they’re in a stall and pull the plane up.
@@Nathanator How would they know? It was dark outside. The flight computer became unreliable due to Pitot tube failure. They didn't know which instruments to believe. They didn't know 2nd Officer Bonin still had control of the sidestick he was pulling on. You reckon they should have just known up from down? Stall from dive? Just known it? Go read up on 'somatogravic' illusion.
Alastair Barkley Only the speed readings were inaccurate due to blocked pitot tubes. There should have been better communication between the crew.
*isnt it common sense to not let a child control an airplane? 🤔*
I remember when I was child about 7years old so back in 1996. Flying to lapland the pilots let all the kids in the plane go in to cockpit in 2s to see it fly it was amazing we didn't touch anything but it was amazing and an experience I'll never forget
Apparently "common sense" was on autopilot that day.
It's Russia. They thought Hillary Clinton personally started a protest against Vladimir Putin without evidence.
@@Mike_Jones281 Seems pretty in-line with who she is tho, can you blame them ?
moo moo minnie Yes but these pilots didn't know the word .apparently it was not part of the aircraft upset recovery..training.😨😰
it was later concluded that if they had just let go of the control column, the autopilot would have automatically taken action to prevent stalling, thus avoiding the accident.
Did you watch until the end? They mention that verbatim
did you srs just put the same comment on 2 videos with similar themes
@@stefanvakos9223 lol.i notice too his comment on another video.same like his comment above
@@JGunit im actually glad they did this i dont feel like watching the full video
@@spacefalls8260 I hear ya cliff note
these were not kids, but teenagers; they really should have more sense. and shame on the pilot for even allowing them to sit in the chairs and touch the buttons. when you have other people's lives in your hands, you need to take your flight even more seriously. smh RIP to the innocent victims
Blair Group you don't care about the lives of the innocent passengers on this flight, or the countless number of families this tragedy has affected.
Blair Group do you understand that because this father allowed his teens to pretend-fly a plane, hundreds of lives died?? this wasn't some father that let his kids pretend-drive a car in an empty parking lot.
this isn't about love for your kids; this is about a responsibility to uphold safety when you have other people's lives in your hands.
so this father loves his kids more than i do? his "love" cost his kids their lives. i love my kids enough not to put them in danger.
so i don't love my kids because i won't let them fly a plane when there are other passengers? what if i let them drive my car in an empty parking lot afterwards though?
think completely before you make such a harsh claim.
Blair Group my denomination has nothing to do with this; no matter what denomination, hundreds of people died because a father let his kids play on the job
Blair Group so pilots should allow their kids to play with the airplane while the plane is full of innocent passengers and put those lives at risk. you spoil your child with gifts toys and money . you don't let them do things that pit others lives in danger. this father killed every person on that plane. do you not understand that his children are now dead because he allowed them to play with the plane . spoiling his kids cost them their lives . what about all the children who lost their parents because they died on that plane. those children grew up without their parents . I hope you don't have children because with your beliefs they will be a danger to our planet . would you really let your children fly an airplane they did not know anything about while you had passengers on board. how do you not see how wrong this man was to allow this .
Blair Group of you needed an operation on your heart would it be acceptable for the heart surgeon to allow his children in the operating room and allow them to perform part of the operation even though they have never done it before . should you allow your children to play with guns that are loaded. as a parent you have an obligation to keep them safe what a the point of spoiling them if the act of spoiling them will kill them . do you spoil your kids by allowing them to do drugs steal and commit crimes . how do you not see that this father killed his children and other children and other children parents. how manu families did tis man destroy . loving your children means you keep them safe . you are the one who does not love your children .I hope you don't have any because they are in danger being in your care. you don't allow children to fly airplanes because the bible says spoil your children. . the bible did not mean spoil your children by allowing them to do things that are harmful and dangerous to themselves and others .
My trip to Japan next week: exists
TH-cam recommendations:
I hope everything goes well
Bro are you there? 😐😐
@@harshbansal4035 still alive
freddy 123 ikr. Recently took a flight from Bradley int’ to Orlando, and all sorts of videos like this popped into my recommendations while I was sitting in the airport waiting for my flight.
BE SAFE GOD BLESS U ..SORRY THAT I LAUGEH A BIT FINDING FUNNY INTIIALLY. HAVE A SAFE FLIGHT
Your videos are very impressive. The details not only enlighten but also make you feel petrified of how simple a mistake can cause such an unmatched loss. Feeling sorry for everyone who had to go through so much before they died.
All text is taken from Wikipedia, word by word.
"Don't run in first class, or they'll fire us."
Ah yes. You can come in here and fly the plane at risk of us dying, but running in first class is inexcusable.
The moral of the story here is, to give a child a $2 toy to play with, instead of a 100 million dollar airplane to play with!
Rooster Cogburn well, at least since then all our pilots are prohibited to let anyone into cockpit. Even pilots NEVER exit it until the end of flight. So, when Chechen terrorists tried to make something like 9/11 (in 2001 too, but prior to those events, to be honest) in our country, they weren't able to get into cockpit and just diverted the plane to Saudi Arabia where they landed it and subsequently were shot or apprehended by Saudi special forces. Imagine what would have happened if they were able to break into the cabin...
And the lives of over 100 people
PepeZeFrog 75 people not 100
@@sebastiankonigsperger8237 which i think is far more important!
They were not children… But teenagers I'm just so shocked that they insisted on playing with shit anyways and that Dad or whatever allowing them to even do it I wouldn't even let my kids come in there by me if I were that person like 100+ lives isn't that big of a deal
So tragic! Stupid, arrogant lack of sense among the pilots. So sad for the families.
Not sad for the businessmen on board, eh? ;-)
Since they have perished, I don't believe they are sad. Their families would be sad, eh? ;-)
Russians stay in cockpit of Lada car - stay out of cockpit of modern capitalist inventions
andy taylor russians have no respect to no one or honour
I agree whit you bro why would they let a kid.
An absolutely stunning lack of professionalism and talent on the part of the pilots.
Patrick T
Hahahaha yea I think 10:45 sums up the professionalism of the pilots nicely, even if the child had screwed things up they had a chance to safely return things to normal and instead they stall again immediately after a nose dive with this? Rip
Vodka
what do you expect from a bunch of russians
that is an insulting comment.....unfortunately mistakes like this happen in other airlines....
Bunch of morons... There are plenty of great Russian pilots out there. There are idiot pilots in other countries as well. But your countries will soon hire ahmeds and mohammeds as your pilots because there will be no more whites left.... Now that's a real LOL!
I'm a retired airline pilot here in the United States. Of course we (pilots) heard about this. @4:00 I had to stop watching because I was going to cry. Maybe I can watch it later....
Tim Duggan this seems so unbelievable !!
Thank you for the work you’ve done. I’ve flown many many many times and I respect the quality pilots out there. I’ve had a chance to fly a plane for a minute or two while we were already up in my friends dads plane, it was something small and I was about 16, and it was the most amazing feeling, but I can’t imagine that in a MUCH bigger plane on top of the hundreds of lives you know that you’re responsible for. You guys do great work.
I know my heart stopped when the plane started corkscrewing, even though it's just a recreation..But if it's any consolation, thanks for being a great pilot..I feel like the US has some of the best pilots in the world..I mean we rarely have crashes in this country..That really says something..Peace and Blessings.
I understand yo
I am a private pilot. My instructor was a 63 year old crop duster and retired commercial pilot. That was in back 1977. and I was 17 at the time. He had been flying for forty + years. If there is one thing he taught me, pay attention to your situation at all times, forget the damn automation, and fly the damn airplane, don't let it fly you. It's rather obvious that these pilots lacked the basic flight skills and relied too heavily on the automation. If they had just turned off the damned autopilot when the "unexpected turn" commenced, gotten the plane back on course, then re-engaged, this could have all been avoided. I realize that today these systems are pervasive and sometimes hard to override (i.e. 737 Max leaps to mind) but today's pilots simply allow their basic skills to become secondary to their reliance on the automation.
Even with one of the kids unintentionally fucking up, it still sounds like the pilots had numerous chances to save the craft and avert danger. But their biggest gross incompetence was even allowing a couple of kids into the cockpit IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!
Yep. SAD! Those kids did not crash the aircraft. The pilots made *BAD* decisions:
Failed to properly correct in a timely manner (kids hands off!) Immediately reset
autopilot and retake their seats!) Then, they caused that final crash, "manually".
DONT SAY THE F WORD
@@alisonnaomiplays8085, why not? It's now such a commonly used word.
@@alisonnaomiplays8085 this isn't victorian britain...
Agreed. Just like you blame the manager instead of the workers at a fast food joint for bad service (because the manager is the one who hired the incompetent workers), you don't blame the kids; you blame the idiot pilots who were in charge and allowed them to kill innocent people. I don't feel bad at all for anyone on this plane other than the innocent passengers and flight attendants.
When the plane started to corkscrew I gasped.... I can only imagine the screams from the passagners..... I feel bad for the pilot`s wife. She lost her husband, and kids. My heart goes out to every life lost, and just having to go through all that before your death is horrible!
its good.. human genome is better now. stupidity from this family is not spreading now. they killed maaaaany people.
vaya:414 The boy must have been horrified thinking it was his fault >.< I can't understand how a parent would think it was ok to put anybody that hadn't been trained in the cockpit let alone kids.
zepter00 Along with the lives of everyone else on board...trolling on videos where people lost their lives is just bs js
its not trolling.. it is truth and history right now.. You can ask families of victims what do they think about yheir actions... I am pretty sure you could get muchmore harsh answer than my.
@@robincharles7057 Like how you are?
Me: I put soda in my computer I'm the dumbest man alive
Pilot: I let my kids fly an aircraft
Me: Oh you're clearly dumber than me
Lol 😁
The Captain's not that dumb.
At least he wasn't the first officer who tried to recover from a stall by making the plane climb near vertically.
@@declannewton2556 He over-corrected. It can happen when G-force is preventing you from moving normally. Blame still lies with the CAPTAIN.
@@declannewton2556 ah yes. Pierre. Mister "Stalling Frenchman"
The pilots were so dumb that i thought this was fake.
Like cmon man how were these guys pilots smh
Watch a few Russian Car Crashes videos and this won't be much of a surprise.
Pure authoritative arrogance bourn of the Soviet Era. Chernobyl’s another prime example.
Okay, pilots were dumb.
Their children were dumb.
But why in earth the autopilot had to be that dumb, too?
Engin Erikli The lack of the autopilot’s response could be chalked up to the programming. When Eldar turned the plane to the right, he pulled too hard which caused the autopilot to turn off as a safety measure. When the pilot’s took control of the plane, it too prevented the autopilot from turning back on due to their efforts. Ironically had the pilots just let go of the control column, the autopilot would turned back on and leveled the plane, preventing the crash.
Ikr like this video is dumb not evan a real one its only a game
This is just unconscionable. Such a massive lapse of judgment on the crews behalf.
Those poor, poor passengers. They suffered greatly.
Greatly? They're dead. The only good thing is that they didn't suffer for too long!!!
@Richard Martin she means they suffered greatly before their deaths
Alan Partridge Noted! 👍
@@martinraxyz imagine the plane you in going completely vertical
I would've thrown the kid out of the seat the moment I noticed there's a problem if I was the captain. Shouldn't it be common sense to not let a kid fly a plane? Flight simulators exist.
ya Lauma What was the FO doing while this aircraft first entered a 45 degree bank? I mean why didn't the FO take manual control then instead of just watching it get worse. strange I mean i know hes new to the Airbus but why let it do it
herobo123456 I also do not understand 10:30. What is he doing?!!
Lauma Vilciņa I wouldnt have thrown the kid out of the seat, absolutely not
Because he would NEVER have been there during mid flight
Microsoft Flight Simulator came out 10 years before this accident, but I didn't expect anyone to play it.
@@herobo123456 g force
How about a "not letting kids into de cockpit" training? that'd be great !
It’s not so much a kids being in the cockpit problem, it’s more of a kids sitting in a pilots chair problem and irresponsible parents. Most airlines still allow for kids to sit supervised in the flight engineers spot.
I never allow any kid to sit on my plastic gaming chair, this pilot let a kid to sit in the pilot seat of a freaking Aeroplane. RIP who died
@PJ B it is Not unreal
Mael all of them died what else
Plastic gaming chair? I feel more sorry for you.
I can't imagine how the mother/wife felt when she received the news.
Good Riddance.
stupid kids and father.
@@jackk5648 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
@Patrick Kazan well ya. The pilot had it coming. so good riddance. I feel bad for the innocent n unaware passengers. Not the stupid pilot n family
She divorced him
@@matteopepe2680 god staaahhhpppp
WHAT PILOTS NEED TO KNOW : no matter how skilled u are and how well u have flown in the past u cannot get cocky or overconfident. piloting amazingly wont give u any extra prize but piloting below par would leave u in danger.
the incompetence of these russian pilots is mindblowing...
This is insane! I'm not a heavy pilot, just a Commercial Instrument Rated / Complex / Multi Pilot. The first thing if my plane is turning by itself is going to be check the Autopilot for problems. Next, I would disengage the Autopilot and FLY THE PLANE. It does have instruments! This all started over an unintentional banking turn. These guys sounded like system operators rather than real pilots. With as many hours as they all had, this should never even come close to happening! Absolutely Senseless!
But... isn't that what Airbus wants? System operators?
Good point! It’s like if your car is on cruise control and something goes wrong. Turn off the cruise control and drive the damn car!
That's the first thing my instructor drilled into my head. No matter what is going on, FLY THE PANE!
Chris Cunningham if I'm not mistaken, aviate, navigate, communicate is the order of Precedence. It seems like all they were doing is communicating. I agree totally that nobody bothered to aviate until you had a complete upset situation where there was not enough altitude to recover.
Not tryin to be a droll a-hole but shouldn't the 1st rule be "no horsing around with kids in the cockpit?" I'd bet no passenger on that flight would have thought that screwing around with the auto pilot for the entertainment of 2 kids seemed like a swell idea! Just sayin'
I still can't come to terms that horrendous stupids could even get into an aviation industry!!! Let alone fly!!!
Can't believe this even happened!!!
@@Namal23 shut up idiot
Crop Cat O'M Intl fuck off it’s true
@@Namal23 - YEP, right about the time that COMMON SENSE really began a free fall. It is now almost non-existent. What PROFESSIONAL would have ever done such a STUPID THING? NONE that I personally know, thank God.
Alcohol was involved..as always with drunkoflot
Wait... It's bad enough that children were allowed in the crew cabin at all during flight, but even after they recognized a problem they continued to let the boy have at the controls?!?! Are you that insanely incompetent? My gosh, please tell me there aren't many more pilots out there like that. I swear, I watch some of these air disasters and half of them should never have happened in the first place.
i think it was mentioned that the captain was facing the increased G-Force which troubled him and the first officer to reach the seat, and it seems like minutes but actually it happened in seconds...
The g-forces created by the angle they were banking, made it difficult for the pilot to return to his seat.
Agree
There was similiar event in Indonesia. Luckily the plane did land safely.
The event went viral across the country and people raging over the captain’s decision, but he rebuked them while saying ‘They didn’t do anything, the flight end up safely anyway’
@@lknisha I would personally slap the whole shit out of him if I was on that flight...
I can’t even imagine a how it felt those last couple of minutes.
Andrew Spoto I’d imagine, it’s sincerely terrifying, but I bet the g forces prolly knocks everyone out before impact... prolly just like dying in your sleep
10:50 imagine being one of the poor passengers on that plane!
Yeah
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Worse, imagine being into the toilets
Nightmare
Imagine without a seatbelt, or even standing
@@pixeiatedsan5609 That seatbelt didnt help in the end... but ye I keep mine most of the flight time attached/closed.
that wasn't an aeroplane, that's a rollercoaster ride.
😂😂😂😂
At least for a little while it was.
Weeeeeeeeee !!!!!
LMAO
Since, it's a higher comment, putting it here.
This channel is run by thieves: this video was made by X Pilot channel: th-cam.com/video/uQh-YSbvB58/w-d-xo.html. They not only put it and take the views&ads money, but also give no credit to a real creator whatsoever.
you’re grounded
_ mbisaf _ like literally
. . . Forever.
go animate.......
Moisture Boi Oh yea that kid is grounded for a 1,000,000 years
and never get up 💔
Despite all those terruble mistakes they had real chance to recover from this situation, makes it even more tragic ;(
The co-pilot clearly went into panic mode and overreacted on the recovery pull up. In doing so, he sealed their fate.
@@bjr4567 stupid idiots honestly, real stupid, these ppl should already know to look at their height at all times, climbing or falling to the ground, as well as the screen that tells you if you're flying straight or going up or down, side to side, there is a delay tho, but still, they know better..
If they didn’t do a vertical climb and stall everything would’ve (probably) been fixed
I'm not even a pilot and this was the most frustrating video I've seen.
It's unbelievable that if they had just put the aircraft on autopilot and didn't touch anything, everything would've been fine.
I don't know why you would ever think that it's okay to allow your children in the cockpit or yet alone touch anything! This really gets me mad all those people lost their lives and so did your children because of your careless decisions.
Visitors used to be allowed to see the cockpit back in the old days. That was prior to 9/11. Now the doors are locked.
Well,
1. Normally you still have someone with training in command, lets say the copilot switches but there still is a pilot
2. This accedent was not the kids fault, he may have started a small problem but if you have thousands of flight hours you should be able to correct said problem
3. People can still visit the cockpit if the pilot consents (watchgoose)
letting a kid sitting in one of the seats is bad enough, but why would you have a kid in each?
Man Spreading they didn’t have a kid in each
Yeah they did the daughter was in 1 and the son was in the other
This is by far, the most horrifying story I’ve seen yet. The plane bobbing around in the sky like a damn cork in the ocean. I can’t imagine the absolute terror.
The kid didn't crash the plane. The pilot did. When he took control of the plane it was in a dive
Instead of leveling out, he kept on going. The pilot put the plane into an unrecoverable configuration.
The pilot must have been drunk. Really strange. Most modern planes, all you have to do is let go
of the controls and the plane should level out on it own, unless there is some mechanical failure.
It's believed that first dive made some structural damage to vertical stabilizer so controls became unstable and oversensitive. Doesn't justify pilots actions but the plain was pretty much doomed even before the last dive.
Agree
immatroll13 GOD DAMIT UR GOOD
Did you EVEN watch the video and read the transcript. YOu are WAY OFF.
Exactly right. If they just let go of the controls the plane will just level out and fly itself. Thats what a plane is designed to do. Fly not turn or crash. Ita strange
This is a story of staggering stupidity and irresponsibility.
@@justcows7772 not during flight...……. maybe in russia
@@justcows7772 о, явно русский писал
Flight hours mean nothing when the pilots lack training, education, and basic knowledge of how to fly a jet without any instruments. A person with a single engine Cessna visual pilots license knows how to recover from a stall. This is basic. Looks like the pilots had all of their flight hours and training on 'AUTOPILOT' and they got a zero on that cause if they even knew autopilot, they would have known the plane would have recovered via autopilot if they had done nothing...... They need to look at who signed off on giving these pilots their pilots license.....
Auto Pilot disengaging system had no sound nor light alarm. If it had that feature, they would've lived. And yeah, they should've done nothing, auto pilot would've recovered itself. Rip
sad, the kids, passengers and captains lost their lives because the father was that incompetent. a tragedy
I'd say it was just as much on the co-pilot in this case, truth be known.
Dumb and Dumber:
"The plane is banking".
"Is it?"
if the plane was really into banking it would be bailed out by the government and the pilot would be alive and rich
ClaimClam fail
Dumb & dumber?????
@@ClaimClam lool
Are we dead yet
There is no reason for a child to be in the cockpit, period.
I don't get why none of the passengers or crew protested and put a stop to it..DUMB CUNTS😬😬😠😠🦍🦍🛬🛫🛩✈
@@TheKonga88 Back then, it was fairly common for well behaved children to be invited into the cockpit. No one had any idea they were going to let the kid control the plane
@@happywithdrawal BULL FUCKING SHIT!
Kunta Kinte calm your tits, they allowed children and adults to enter the cockpit mid flight until 9/11where they decided to put a hault to it
He had Microsoft Airplane experience.
Lesson: Don’t let your kids fly a plane
True
The_Ryan_Guy2011
Stubborn
Calculatinq
You’re overestimating the amount of common sense many kids have.
That is one lesson. Not letting computers fly all the time is another. Pilots are just button pushers. Not pilots any more.
WALTERBROADDUS
Well, do you want pilots to manually fly a 3hour flight?
I can’t emagine what those passengers went through in their last moments. RIP😢
Not only terror but Also the the g-forces
Why would you let a kid handle a plane. Someone with no experience or training. The kid could sit in the back and watch but not drive the plane.
not even sit in back not even enter the sacred cockpit at alll. not even touch the door from the outside. never fly aeroflot. idiots
10:25 So technically speaking it was not Eldar (the kid) that crashed the plane, but the erroneous handling from the co pilot. Had the co pilot been more gentle with his handling, they would have avoided the disaster. Perhaps it was a mistake that Eldar gave the steering column to the 'experienced' copilot with the 9000+ hours of flight.
In any case, what the kid caused was to deploy a situation that revealed that the two pilots were unable to handle it from lack of experience in HAND flying.
PS: the stupidity of the pilot who let his kids into the cockpit that defines the life expectancy of people cannot be described.
I suspect they still had hundreds of hours of hand-flying various aircraft, but the modern practice of inputting routes to an autopilot and letting it fly the plane decreases pilots' awareness of the plane's attitude and the positions of its controls. Also, the auto-pilot is so good at co-ordinated turns (which keep the pax's drinks from sliding off their tray tables), unintentional banking and turns are hard to discern. How many of these accidents would have been avoided if the first response to confusing auto-pilot behavior was to immediately disengage the autopilot and hand fly the aircraft straight and leave for a while? Of course, you can never really hand fly an Airbus because it'll insist on doing certain un-commanded actions. Which, in this case - if everyone had just left the cockpit and taken a coffee break - apparently would have dealt with the situation.
In America plane flies child.
In Soviet Russia child flies plane.
This IS After The Soviet, IT'S 1994.
In America ....the adults are still children. Same difference
Blue Brick Wall well we are here again
Shaq IS The Best Soccer Player IN NFL it’s a joke 😂🤦♂️
Bandit Himself - Yes we are aren't we. What's up ...do you agree most american adults think and reason like children? I think so. I think this problem of childish adults are in all countries around the globe.
Wow, the title isn't clickbait. There really was such an idiotic flight crew who allowed their kids to fly.
I mean the pilot literally told them to NOT touch any buttons and keep their hands on the column stick. They didn’t know that the autopilot would turn off (partially) without a warning
"Eldar, you little scamp, you killed us!"
😂it's not Eldar but the big daddy
Daddy had a few vodka and decided to let his teenagers kids in lol
umm no, if pilot was any smart he could recover the plane a few times, but he did mistakes more than once. why would he ascend the plane full vertical after stall
@@sambo1142 XD
In the first place allowing kids inside the cockpit was a CRIME in itself. Over and above allowing to operate the controls a BLUNDER. A pilot or a driver, has in his hands life of not only the passengers, but also their near, dear & dependents. Let those idiots get killed, but unaware & innocent passengers got killed, for no fault of theirs'. The souls of the dead will never forgive the culprits - whether kids or elders.
Maaaybe this wasn't such a good idea. The pilots should have done this for their kids in a flight simulator. Not a real airliner with passengers on board!
@Jie Andaya
Actually it was
@Jie Andaya Full motion simulators have been around almost as long as powered-flight.
Legends say that till this day the pilots still don't know why the plane is turning right...
Legends say that
*Welp*
How foolish people can be...
For personal pleasures making people lose their lives :(
Seriously who lets kids inside the cockpit? And even touch the controls? These pilots were idiots
•IFST• Flight Simulator Channel
And their life as well
Rick Toboni
Yup that's why they died.
It's scary tho
yea i agree
I dont think thats how it happened. The plane was faulty, the co-pilot was in his sit and the father was right behind the chair. So if indeed autopilot was disengaged, the co-pilot would have taken control. The plane went nuts...thats it. Saw the full video on aircrash investigations.
This is really mistitled. Eldar didn't crash the plane, he only caused a slight deviation that any well-trained pilot should have easily corrected. A lot of bad piloting occured here.
colt one Exactly. As soon as the crew noticed the holding pattern, they should have taken back control, not let the kid carry on.
Umm, the point is, if the pilot had never let the kids into the cockpit, it would have landed in HK.
NotMyFirstDay: No that's not the only point. Anyone can do a but/for test and isolate one factor and seize upon it as if it's everything. The fact is that unforeseen things happen all the time and competent pilots handle them. This time it was an unnoticed disengagement of the autopilot (what if one of the crew had accidentally done it?), another time it could be a faulty instrument reading, a missed flap check, etc. While I agree that visitors should not be in the cockpit, in this case the boy DID NOT "crash" the plane. The crew was not paying attention. Otherwise one of them would have simply corrected the autopilot, and as you say, it would have landed safely. Even if it weren't corrected immediately, a competent crew wouldn't have sat there in bewilderment over what was happening and what to do.
Go back and read the captions again. Eldar did crash the plane. For some reason the captain didn't take back the pilot seat when Eldar told them the plane was turning by itself. They told him to turn left . . . NO! THE OTHER LEFT!. hahaha Co-pilot should have immediately taken control while captain got back in the chair.
In the video they said G-forces didn't allow the pilots to take back controls, they were stranded in their seats, probably couldn't even raise their arms (only fighter pilots are trained to control a plane in high Gs), only the kid had his hands already on the controls... but still even after that, they could had easily regained control of the plane when G-forces were lower.
Excellent video, outstanding! But on this one, I’m sorry, but children SHOULD NOT be allowed into the cockpit AT ALL during flight, let alone be able to sit in the seat and touch the controls! Father to them or not, that is unacceptable, and it really shouldn’t have happened. Rest in Peace passengers & crew.
True. I do blame the pilots for not watching him properly, but I still find it a stupid decision to let a KID in the cockpit of a commercial airliner full of paying passengers, and then let him ‘feel’ like he is moving it. It was obviously going to end badly, it is such a high risk, and I simply no not agree with it. Children should only be allowed into the cockpit when the aircraft is on the ground on stand, unless something else (a cockpit flight) is booked. Family, relatives or what it doesn’t make a difference. No kids in the cockpit of a flying commercial airplane full of PAX. Simple.
Letting the kids "turn left" is somewhat careless, but not that fatal just by itself. Letting the plane turn to nearly 90 degree bank and not touching anything is a whole lot of strange, considering the maximum bank angle under AP should be less than 30 degrees, but there is another thing I can't wrap my head around - how a trained pilot with 9000 hours and 800 on the aircraft, or any licensed pilot for that matter, overcorrects a dive all the way to vertical ?
Yes, the captain should be punished but the kids probably not.
Definitely not! The pilots killed everyone with their inability to fly a fully functioning, and essentially new, aircraft. There was no mechanical faults. That plane should never have crashed. I highly doubt any of the 'pilots' credentials. And they should be held in disgrace for all eternity.
The video doesn't mention, but the A310 was a relatively new jet for Aeroflot around that time so pilots didn't know what was going on with the autopilot. The relief captain believed that the autopilot was flying the plane instead of the child and the only sign of manual control for the ailerons was a red flash on the panel which can go unnoticed by the pilots.
Even though Aeroflot chose their top pilots to fly the then-new A310, it doesn't mean they have full knowledge of the avionics, especially since this is their first series with many computers and automation. The accident investigation also found one feature that could have used to save the jet from diving... the anti-stall system. The pilots just had to let go of the control stick to allow the anti-stall system to activate. It's sad that none of Aeroflot's pilots knew about it before this crash.
The most avoidable plane crash out of all of them..
The let a 15 yr old kid keep flying the plane even after it was in trouble!
Cause of huge G-forces that prevented captain to get back in the seat.
According to wiki, at one point during the spin, the G forces relented enough for him to switch seats over to his dad before they met their death.
He was in a 45 degree turn... Which changed to 90 later. Sure at 90 degree I would understand why he couldn't but at 45 he could have...