On the second one .. they clearly fell asleep. Multi radio checks ignored? Calls from the FA ignored? While they supposedly look over laptops? Yeah I am never buying that crap.
They're clearly not accomplished bullshitters or they would've faked a self resolving medical event in one pilot. Of course, they could've been shagging and got so into that work priorities had to take a number.
But what are the chances of them both falling asleep together for the same amount of time? Neither of them catching the radio? It seems they were in discussion. Maybe one of them was from Delta, the other from NW and they were working something weird out. I've seen pilots come off the plane and sit in the terminal together, needing to speed through info as quick as possible before they have to get on board the plane again.
A heartbreaking tragedy where a failure in air traffic control procedures led to devastating consequences. The crash of Flight 3352 serves as a powerful reminder of the critical importance of coordination between ground operations and air traffic to ensure the safety of every flight. Thank you for providing such a detailed perspective on this harrowing event.
Everyone who skipped to the end saw this story: *_"In 1984, two Russian Tupolev 85234 pilots fell asleep on their way to Omsk, then woke up flying an Airbus 320, panicked and immediately landed only to discover they were in Minneapolis MN in 2009, and were now American pilots about to be fired."_*
Cmon FlightChannel, you missed the fact that everyone except for 1 passenger and 4 crew members on the plane were killed in the Aeroflot crash and it was one of Russias deadliest aviation accidents, thats a pretty major detail to miss
It's copy-pasted from Wikipedia. My guess is that this is the amount of information he could put on the video with how long the animation in question is, and maybe how engaging it will be. It's also interesting that two more people were convicted for not being at work as they were supposed to at that time, worsening the chain of events and not performing basic protocols.
If you think this is bad, I worked for a trucking company, we had a new hire that couldn't read. On his first trip to NYC he ended up in Nashville TN 800 miles from NYC.... 118 miles is nothing lol
I used to watch Tu-154s landing at Toronto Canada in the 70s and early 80s, Cubana Airlines out of Havana. You knew they were coming because the fire trucks would line up alongside the runway about 1/2-3/4 down the length. The aircraft landed and as it passed the fire trucks they'd all haul azz after it because the brakes were always over heating.
@PeterNebelung - I flew to Cuba on Cubana Airlines, a Russian aircraft. Suntours/SunflightFlight the tour operator. Flight attendants offered a tray stacked with already cut sandwiches a communal sharing, the overhead cabins (? )were netted racks, the carpet had a blackened path to 'the toilet. I worked (1976-2005) for the big Canadian tour operators, negotiating room blocks w hotels ( mostly Spanish speaking destinations, & flew many aero-maybes. (Avianca horrific) The deal we had w Cuban hotels to offset what was owed for the rooms was to supply them w items they couldn't get - Canadians maintained a relationship bringing tourism but not the USA, so we'd get the shopping list, toilet seats were popular, boat motors, lawn movers, whatever could fit & weigh in the belly of an aircraft. I too used to watch planes as a kid w my Dad, Malton airport while standing outside our car in a nearby field. DC 8 stretches were the desirable size for mass tourism, 4 screaming engines, & shaking all over. 😄
Yep, dude needs to lose the spoilers in the titles and vid intros. But he's been asked numerous times by many people to do so and thus far he's ignored every request. So I try my best to avoid reading titles and I always ffw through the intros.
Never heard of a 23 year old controller! This is one of the TOP, MOST STRESSFUL JOBS there are, conducted by many polls. You have ALOT of RESPONSIBILITY on you, that you better pay attention to!! EVERY SINGLE PLANE that takes off and lands are HALF of your responsibility to ensure that the planes dont crash, even while flying! A 23 year old, especially working alone, is wayyy too young! An accident/disaster waiting to happen!!
When the pilots in the second video are saying "That's all I can tell you right now", that's something where I'd love for the ATC to say "No sir, you will explain more in detail right this minute." Dudes were obviously lying and I'm glad their licenses were revoked! Also, it's surprising that military jets weren't scrambled sooner, seeing as that losing contact for so long would normally be a bit more of a worry.
@@morrismonet3554 That's what i thought from the way they worded their response to ATC. If I'd heard that amount of dancing around a topic, head would've been my first thought.
Loving some of the angles used on the second incident. For example, starting at 10:34 and 10:55 at first glance, you could be forgiven for thinking you're looking at actual footage. It's also not a style I recall ever seeing on this channel. Love the shot starting at 11:24 of the flap and aileron being deployed. Holy shit, this entire section of this video is a work of aeronautical art. Good stuff.
@@tag4042 That's what the video didn't say, just that 4 flight crew survived, and 4 on the ground were killed. All those children in a fireball without the mercy of an instant mountain impact at speed. R.I.P. I also feel for the 23 yo controller. Why did he not know there was a flight somewhere inbound (or did he), and he was legally supposed to be supervised. A lot of errors or negligence by many.
@@Randomly_Browsing Duh, asleep from birth? When he cleared the crew on to the runway, em... before he went to sleep, why wasn't he aware the only flight within a hundred miles, probably, was due in st some point fairly soon? How about you actually watch and read the video?
The Omsk incident (first one) - I can appreciate it being 1984, but still...giving the order for maintenance to go on the runway when not authorised, FALLING ASLEEP, not putting on the 'runway occupied' lights, and the maintenance crew not having their lights on (saving battery power?!!), a recipe for disaster much?? And it was not in the video - yes, the four crew members survived, miraculously, but all but one passenger died, including the flight attendants. The surviving passenger lost a leg. That controller was young, placed with some responsibility for the interim, and it turned catastrophic. No surprise he was jailed, little surprise he committed suicide. He wasn't the only one jailed. NorthWest Airlines 188 - Two sets of ARTCC trying to make contact with the flight crew, the airline's own dispatchers tried to no avail, for NORAD to have almost scrambled two fighter jets to intercept, before the captain then makes contact 75 MINUTES later, and is RESTRICTIVE as to why he never did so from the outset??? He and the FO were on their laptops?? Not appreciating nor comprehending they were in charge of near 92 tons of machinery, in the air tens of thousands of feet high, with over 140 passengers, and the worry they caused as a result, following on from 9/11?? It was practically reprehensible. It was possible they had fallen asleep, after food.
Yeah, well, this one wasn’t the pilot’s fault. Or Aeroflot’s. Besides, my own experience with Aeroflot was much better than with Delta where every flight I feared for my life and walked away with ass in pain because of the hard landings. Lufthansa is the best though.
Thank you very much for this interesting video. In the first incident, you need to mention 174 people died and this remains the deadliest incident in Russian territory according to Wikipedia.
To be fair, since the Airbus doesn't handle like a shopping cart with four bad wheels (looking at you, Boeing), it's reasonable to assume that the pilots took a quick little siesta
I tell you why, all of them were drunk including the controller , thats the reason, but nobody from officials will tell you. This was a time to drink not to work, Russians have their own culture of drinking and working. Pilots of course are not the better especially those who have fly routes in Russia area only.
This was Russia in the 80s, so I'm going to guess either Smirnoff, Stolichnaya, Hammer & Sickle, Beluga Noble, Karkov or Nimeroff played a role. It's funny how none of these brands *ever* end up in their accident reports...
I feel a bit bad for the Delta pilots. They were royally shafted during the Northwest takeover which would’ve affected their wallets and given they’re late in their career it would’ve affected when they retired - they would’ve had to work for years longer than they thought when they first started flying. That would’ve caused stress at home and likely affected them physically due to disruption of their sleep - try getting a good sleep when you’re figuring out how you’re gonna pay bills in the future etc. That aside, being sat in a pretty autonomous environment for hours at a time with no fresh air while the day is getting darker would test the best of us. I do feel they should’ve admitted to nodding off, as that was pretty obvious, and lying would’ve only made the situation worse.
What's not clear is the crew of Flight 3352 survived because the cockpit detached from the fuselage during the collision and rolled away. Almost everyone else perished by fire because of the fuel onboard the plane and the trucks. Also I do have some sympathy for the controller. While he bore a lot responsibility and was an easy scapegoat, he was also alone, overworked and tired which was a management failure.
I consider myself to be very empathetic as well but you have to take into account that it was the only plane approaching at that time, so I don't know about "overworked". Nightshifts are usually "harder" in all sectors in the sense that you obviously have a very different time schedule than the rest, BUT you get compensated for it. If at least the fatality count was closer to 0, I can see how even the jury would've had some sympathy, but this was a lot of victims... worst case scenario, yes, but he was handed that responsibility and he accepted it, so it's hard to give him that benefit. Loss of life is always a pity indeed but, to put it in some way, I feel so much more sorry for the passengers, the kids... I wish he could've just completed his sentence and went on with his life. As you probably know, the other two controllers who were supposed to be there were also sentenced to about 1 or 2 years less than him, which is fair. He didn't get a lighter sentence but at least he was shown that the guilt for the severity of the whole incident didn't fall only on him, justice was handed. I also read somewhere that prosecutors asked for capital punishment. The whole thing is just disgusting. This might be one of the 'man-made horrors beyond human comprehension' that Tesla talked about... the future is now (although this was some 40 years ago, I suppose technology had advanced a lot).
ATC are overworked around the world because not enough people can handle the job. Here in America there are scandals about working conditions for ATC. The guy was only 23 so he didn't even have full adult maturity/judgment (which comes with experience) and he ended up losing his life over it. I do have sympathy for people who never intended to hurt anyone. He obviously wished he had never taken that job, but couldn't handle prison and took his own life.
Exactly. What if the ground controller did'nt just fell asleep but suffered heart attack or something? There should any safety mechanism have kicked in to prevent the disaster.
@@Canleaf08 Countless radio checks were ignored for over 90 minutes, including calls from Denver and Minneapolis ATC, plus Northwest Airlines Dispatch. This had nothing to do with their new scheduling system; that was simply the pilots "CYA" alibi. No distraction of this sort could be that complete or mind-boggling.
Because a corporate merger doesn't automatically change the flight certificate under which an airline operates. For example, after US Airways merged with American it took a further two years of a single company operating under two different operating certificates.
Also, it sounds like monopoly money micromanagement hell, so maybe the pilots were actually having to do the airline's job FOR them on their laptops in real time in the cockpit
They left their alarm clock at home. My stupid freind would sleep at night, autopilot on, set his alarm clock for 30 minute segments & fall asleep. MU-2.
Yeah, another reupload. I feel like I'm seeing a pattern here. He uploads a new video that isn't a reupload, then he does a reupload next, then another video that isn't a reupload.
OK,I can understand shoddy service, training, overworked schedules, dismissal of rules - add whatever you wish here - from crappy 1980's USSR - and I am reminded how we all used to call that airline "North WORST".
Yup! I’m prejudiced. I read “Russian” and assumed bad things. Edit: sure enough.. the only person in charge fell asleep. God forgive me for assuming the obvious!!
Can we get voice overs for the video again I loved that and its objectively better too as its more content / multidimensional. Or 2 versions of a vid, 1 voice over 1 subtitles. Although I fail to see why the some of the audience wants subtitles only.
Somehow, these sort of incidents don’t really surprise me in any Communist or former eastern block countries. The system breeds slipshod work attitudes. Also, a 23 year old is the sole person in the control tower? I have several nephews and a niece who are in their early 20’s. Sorry, but unless Russian young adults are significantly more mature than Americans, they just don’t have the life experience to adequately handle such a high stress, high responsibility job by themselves. Even when highly experienced, common sense should tell you there should always be at least two people in the control tower of a heavily used commercial airport. It wasn’t a situation with a few small private planes, a single runway and a windsock in a field in the middle of nowhere! Remember, it was a Russian (or USSR) flight that went down because the pilot let his young teen kid come up and fly the plane. Everyone was killed.
Aeroflot? Agree, completely horrific. All those children and infants. No sudden impact death in to the ground or better in to a mountainside. Video never confirmed all died except one plus 4 in the cockpit. Thanks to the comment from @Aircraft1606
Yea, that makes me think the pilot asked the co-pilot to take over while he took a quick nap. The co-pilot then also nodded off. Probably just didn't want to throw him completely under the bus, although he probably should have.
They damn sure don't in Los Angeles, buddy. Over 1000 rollover crash calls alone on the average weekend night and that's not even tending to the countless rubbish fires
Too much of that fancy book learnin' for ya? These videos are mostly pictures with a few sentences. Did you find reading comic books to be a challenge?
@@Lauriedriver Nothing wrong with saying First. Dude gets the thumbnail of a well watched channel within the first minute, it's kind of a YT game thing. I caught this in the first hour from the UK. Most channels I follow I'm usually 7 - 16 hours behind everyone else. That gives me bragging rights of sorts 🙃
174 passengers in the Aeroflot crash also died. The 4 crew survived though. This should have been included in the video
Yes. As it is, the title doesn't make as much sense.
Yea I rewinded twice to see if I had missed it or something and couldn't believe that such a huge detail was left out.
It s in the description though.
Kind of a huge mistake…I was happy to initially hear no one was hurt on flight itself. Very bummed now.
Looks like *TheFlightChannel* content creator fell asleep at the end of that episode and overlooked adding this critical detail.
On the second one .. they clearly fell asleep. Multi radio checks ignored? Calls from the FA ignored? While they supposedly look over laptops? Yeah I am never buying that crap.
They're clearly not accomplished bullshitters or they would've faked a self resolving medical event in one pilot. Of course, they could've been shagging and got so into that work priorities had to take a number.
Maybe they had the fish for dinner?
@@morrismonet3554 Oh that one was bad .... lol. At least you didn't say it in Jive.
@@walterengler5709 "I speak Jive". LOL
But what are the chances of them both falling asleep together for the same amount of time? Neither of them catching the radio? It seems they were in discussion. Maybe one of them was from Delta, the other from NW and they were working something weird out. I've seen pilots come off the plane and sit in the terminal together, needing to speed through info as quick as possible before they have to get on board the plane again.
A heartbreaking tragedy where a failure in air traffic control procedures led to devastating consequences. The crash of Flight 3352 serves as a powerful reminder of the critical importance of coordination between ground operations and air traffic to ensure the safety of every flight. Thank you for providing such a detailed perspective on this harrowing event.
Everyone who skipped to the end saw this story: *_"In 1984, two Russian Tupolev 85234 pilots fell asleep on their way to Omsk, then woke up flying an Airbus 320, panicked and immediately landed only to discover they were in Minneapolis MN in 2009, and were now American pilots about to be fired."_*
"How much fuel do you have aboard" "About 25 years worth"
Crazy how nature do dat
stranger things
Yep. Sounds about right.
😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you for reverting to your old format. Love from California.
I bet that Captain’s retirement REALLY suffered after this event!
That's what I was thinking.
There is NO room for incompetence in the Airline Sector PERIOD..
Thank you for reverting to your old format.
It's another repeat, I remember questioning the use of a Renault Magnum for the HGVs, first built in 1990.
@@wobblybobengland I hadn't seen it, but if we keep reminding them we don't like their new format maybe they will revert.
Cmon FlightChannel, you missed the fact that everyone except for 1 passenger and 4 crew members on the plane were killed in the Aeroflot crash and it was one of Russias deadliest aviation accidents, thats a pretty major detail to miss
It's copy-pasted from Wikipedia. My guess is that this is the amount of information he could put on the video with how long the animation in question is, and maybe how engaging it will be. It's also interesting that two more people were convicted for not being at work as they were supposed to at that time, worsening the chain of events and not performing basic protocols.
I cannot help but notice that there are no videos that you have created on your channel.
@@JeffBenoit-h1r Bro the comment section is meant for anyone to share their opinions, regardless of what the commenter does the rest of the time.
@@ritishify You're missing the point. Regardless of what you're doing the rest of the time.
@@JeffBenoit-h1r lol okay
@Theflight channel, your enactments are amazing! So sad to see how many crashes and loss of lives can be prevented🌻
If you think this is bad, I worked for a trucking company, we had a new hire that couldn't read. On his first trip to NYC he ended up in Nashville TN 800 miles from NYC.... 118 miles is nothing lol
. . . and the company?
@@jakeblake231 All state freight.. now out of business..
They hired someone who couldn’t read? They didn’t consider road signs??? 😂
@@MartinisnOlives LOL it's that whole not being able to read thing... It goes for signs too
Probably a foreigner, lots of foreigners drive trucks in America now.
I used to watch Tu-154s landing at Toronto Canada in the 70s and early 80s, Cubana Airlines out of Havana. You knew they were coming because the fire trucks would line up alongside the runway about 1/2-3/4 down the length. The aircraft landed and as it passed the fire trucks they'd all haul azz after it because the brakes were always over heating.
@PeterNebelung - I flew to Cuba on Cubana Airlines, a Russian aircraft. Suntours/SunflightFlight the tour operator.
Flight attendants offered a tray stacked with already cut sandwiches a communal sharing, the overhead cabins (? )were netted racks, the carpet had a blackened path to 'the toilet. I worked (1976-2005) for the big Canadian tour operators, negotiating room blocks w hotels ( mostly Spanish speaking destinations, & flew many aero-maybes. (Avianca horrific) The deal we had w Cuban hotels to offset what was owed for the rooms was to supply them w items they couldn't get - Canadians maintained a relationship bringing tourism but not the USA, so we'd get the shopping list, toilet seats were popular, boat motors, lawn movers, whatever could fit & weigh in the belly of an aircraft. I too used to watch planes as a kid w my Dad, Malton airport while standing outside our car in a nearby field. DC 8 stretches were the desirable size for mass tourism, 4 screaming engines, & shaking all over. 😄
@TheFlightChannel This is really good progress from your other format, this is much better and we love you for it. Please keep it up.
One of the best channels out there, thank you for your great videos i could binge all night with your videos.
At least the Northwest Pilots were sober this time.
I wonder how many don't understand your reference....
In the first flight, you first write there were 9 crew members on board, then you write all 4 crew members survived... You should clarify that
I guess only 4 crew members in the cockpit survived.
I HATE the spoilers at the beginning. I always start this channel's videos a minute or two in.
Thats why i always start to watch from second, thiord minute
You often can't avoid it. That is bad. Even so it never said directly that all but one of the passengers were killed on the Aeroflot.
Yep, dude needs to lose the spoilers in the titles and vid intros. But he's been asked numerous times by many people to do so and thus far he's ignored every request. So I try my best to avoid reading titles and I always ffw through the intros.
Same here!
ok
2:49 'yup, I see the problem here. You're missing a wing. Might wanna to get that fixed.'
Never heard of a 23 year old controller! This is one of the TOP, MOST STRESSFUL JOBS there are, conducted by many polls.
You have ALOT of RESPONSIBILITY on you, that you better pay attention to!! EVERY SINGLE PLANE that takes off and lands are HALF of your responsibility to ensure that the planes dont crash, even while flying! A 23 year old, especially working alone, is wayyy too young! An accident/disaster waiting to happen!!
Yep, it happened.
so the russian plane lands on runway without getting ATC clearance and that's not pilot error?!!
Yeh that was another niggle at the back of my mind. Also why didn't the controller at 23 yo not know there was a single flight due inbound, or did he?
It said they got a “landing clearance of sorts” on approach.
When the pilots in the second video are saying "That's all I can tell you right now", that's something where I'd love for the ATC to say "No sir, you will explain more in detail right this minute." Dudes were obviously lying and I'm glad their licenses were revoked! Also, it's surprising that military jets weren't scrambled sooner, seeing as that losing contact for so long would normally be a bit more of a worry.
. . . and create a SECOND distraction from their responsibilities?! Best to wait til ground bound.
Maybe they were getting more than dinner from the flight attendant. LOL
@@morrismonet3554 That's what i thought from the way they worded their response to ATC. If I'd heard that amount of dancing around a topic, head would've been my first thought.
ATC needs to ask because it might be an emergency situation, possibly a hijack
Loving some of the angles used on the second incident. For example, starting at 10:34 and 10:55 at first glance, you could be forgiven for thinking you're looking at actual footage. It's also
not a style I recall ever seeing on this channel. Love the shot starting at 11:24 of the flap and aileron being deployed. Holy shit, this entire section of this video is a work of aeronautical art.
Good stuff.
0:22 Aeroflot Flight 3352
Date: October 11th‚ 1984‚
Summary: Collision with maintenance vehicles on landing due to ATC error
Aircraft Type: Tupolev Tu-154B-1
IATA Flight No. SU3352
ICAO Flight No. AFL3352
Call sign: AEROFLOT 3352
Registration:CCCP-85243
Flight origin: Krasnodar International Airport‚ USSR
Stopover:Omsk Airport‚ USSR
Destination: Novosibirsk‚ Tolmacheo‚ Airport‚ USSR
Occupants:179
Passengers:170
Crew:9
Fatalities:174
Injuries:2
Survivors:5
Ground Casualties:4
8:36 Northwest Airlines Flight 188
Date: October 21st‚ 2009‚
Summary:Pilot error and distraction
Aircraft Type: Airbus A320-212
Operator: Northwest Airlines
Registration:N374NW
Flight origin:San Diego International Airport
Destination: Minneapolis-Saint Paul International Airport
Occupants:149
Passengers:144
Crew:5
Fatalities:0
Injuries:0
Survivors:149
I thought I'd seen this one on The Flight Channel before. I don't know why it says just 28 minutes ago?
Wait so all the passengers died?
@@tag4042 That's what the video didn't say, just that 4 flight crew survived, and 4 on the ground were killed.
All those children in a fireball without the mercy of an instant mountain impact at speed.
R.I.P.
I also feel for the 23 yo controller. Why did he not know there was a flight somewhere inbound (or did he), and he was legally supposed to be supervised.
A lot of errors or negligence by many.
@@pomeraudo you even watch the video? It's says that the ATC were asleep
@@Randomly_Browsing Duh, asleep from birth?
When he cleared the crew on to the runway, em... before he went to sleep, why wasn't he aware the only flight within a hundred miles, probably, was due in st some point fairly soon?
How about you actually watch and read the video?
The Omsk incident (first one) - I can appreciate it being 1984, but still...giving the order for maintenance to go on the runway when not authorised, FALLING ASLEEP, not putting on the 'runway occupied' lights, and the maintenance crew not having their lights on (saving battery power?!!), a recipe for disaster much??
And it was not in the video - yes, the four crew members survived, miraculously, but all but one passenger died, including the flight attendants. The surviving passenger lost a leg. That controller was young, placed with some responsibility for the interim, and it turned catastrophic. No surprise he was jailed, little surprise he committed suicide. He wasn't the only one jailed.
NorthWest Airlines 188 - Two sets of ARTCC trying to make contact with the flight crew, the airline's own dispatchers tried to no avail, for NORAD to have almost scrambled two fighter jets to intercept, before the captain then makes contact 75 MINUTES later, and is RESTRICTIVE as to why he never did so from the outset??? He and the FO were on their laptops??
Not appreciating nor comprehending they were in charge of near 92 tons of machinery, in the air tens of thousands of feet high, with over 140 passengers, and the worry they caused as a result, following on from 9/11?? It was practically reprehensible. It was possible they had fallen asleep, after food.
yes ,..but both of them,...if this was the result of some kind of terrorist attack ,being the food..would anyone tell the public ,..not likely
Whenever Aeroflot is involved I always have to do a quick wiki check bc of all the negligent crashes I lose track which is which.
Yeah, well, this one wasn’t the pilot’s fault. Or Aeroflot’s. Besides, my own experience with Aeroflot was much better than with Delta where every flight I feared for my life and walked away with ass in pain because of the hard landings. Lufthansa is the best though.
Thank you very much for this interesting video. In the first incident, you need to mention 174 people died and this remains the deadliest incident in Russian territory according to Wikipedia.
How did the aircraft land without talking and getting clear to land from the tower?
In memory of the two laptops …
An old episode I’m fine with being reuploaded.
Good damn Day Everyone😅
To be fair, since the Airbus doesn't handle like a shopping cart with four bad wheels (looking at you, Boeing), it's reasonable to assume that the pilots took a quick little siesta
Seriously? Why do you just stay on the runway if there’s a LITERAL PLANE headed right for you?!
I tell you why, all of them were drunk including the controller , thats the reason, but nobody from officials will tell you. This was a time to drink not to work, Russians have their own culture of drinking and working. Pilots of course are not the better especially those who have fly routes in Russia area only.
@@teniabryz5879 Yeah, and that’s why several Russian flights crashed, like Aeroflot Flight 821 in 2008.
Exactly. "Hey, there's a plane headed right for us. Huh...probably just a test flight, bet it won't land."
Exactly what I was thinking 🤔. Too much vodka, maybe?
This was Russia in the 80s, so I'm going to guess either Smirnoff, Stolichnaya, Hammer & Sickle, Beluga Noble, Karkov or Nimeroff played a role. It's funny how none of these brands *ever* end up in their accident reports...
I thought this was a video. Not an eighteen minute story to Read. .😊
I feel a bit bad for the Delta pilots. They were royally shafted during the Northwest takeover which would’ve affected their wallets and given they’re late in their career it would’ve affected when they retired - they would’ve had to work for years longer than they thought when they first started flying. That would’ve caused stress at home and likely affected them physically due to disruption of their sleep - try getting a good sleep when you’re figuring out how you’re gonna pay bills in the future etc. That aside, being sat in a pretty autonomous environment for hours at a time with no fresh air while the day is getting darker would test the best of us. I do feel they should’ve admitted to nodding off, as that was pretty obvious, and lying would’ve only made the situation worse.
What's not clear is the crew of Flight 3352 survived because the cockpit detached from the fuselage during the collision and rolled away. Almost everyone else perished by fire because of the fuel onboard the plane and the trucks. Also I do have some sympathy for the controller. While he bore a lot responsibility and was an easy scapegoat, he was also alone, overworked and tired which was a management failure.
I consider myself to be very empathetic as well but you have to take into account that it was the only plane approaching at that time, so I don't know about "overworked". Nightshifts are usually "harder" in all sectors in the sense that you obviously have a very different time schedule than the rest, BUT you get compensated for it.
If at least the fatality count was closer to 0, I can see how even the jury would've had some sympathy, but this was a lot of victims... worst case scenario, yes, but he was handed that responsibility and he accepted it, so it's hard to give him that benefit. Loss of life is always a pity indeed but, to put it in some way, I feel so much more sorry for the passengers, the kids... I wish he could've just completed his sentence and went on with his life.
As you probably know, the other two controllers who were supposed to be there were also sentenced to about 1 or 2 years less than him, which is fair. He didn't get a lighter sentence but at least he was shown that the guilt for the severity of the whole incident didn't fall only on him, justice was handed. I also read somewhere that prosecutors asked for capital punishment. The whole thing is just disgusting.
This might be one of the 'man-made horrors beyond human comprehension' that Tesla talked about... the future is now (although this was some 40 years ago, I suppose technology had advanced a lot).
ATC are overworked around the world because not enough people can handle the job. Here in America there are scandals about working conditions for ATC.
The guy was only 23 so he didn't even have full adult maturity/judgment (which comes with experience) and he ended up losing his life over it.
I do have sympathy for people who never intended to hurt anyone. He obviously wished he had never taken that job, but couldn't handle prison and took his own life.
Exactly. What if the ground controller did'nt just fell asleep but suffered heart attack or something? There should any safety mechanism have kicked in to prevent the disaster.
Northwest flight just two words "Gross negligence" End off
I’ve been to Omsk in 2004. Didn’t know about this incident.
This is a great video except for one thing, a lot of the captions are plagiarized from Wikipedia.
the best of the best Flight Channels
I don’t think so😅
@@ChanhuyJourney
I was going to go look thru all your uploads and sub …
you’re kidding, right ? 😂
I subbed ~ just because I admire your smartassery
@@kinsley7777 My vid are super cringe lol😂
@@ChanhuyJourney
you’re too funny 😂
I didn’t watch ~ maybe another day
I’m begging you, please don't watch these videos. 😭
I still don't get how two professional pilots got so distracted, there's gotta be more to the story.
Simple. They fell asleep on the job.
@@bjr4567No. They were distracted by the new scheduling system.
@@Canleaf08 Countless radio checks were ignored for over 90 minutes, including calls from Denver and Minneapolis ATC, plus Northwest Airlines Dispatch. This had nothing to do with their new scheduling system; that was simply the pilots "CYA" alibi. No distraction of this sort could be that complete or mind-boggling.
"they hit it off well"!!! they were joining the mile high club, joysticks all round.
@@Canleaf08How naive to believe that.
Hi love ya vids
R.I.P 🫡😞
Did the guys in the trucks have a death wish or what ? I'd see a plane on final approach, I would back off asap just in case...
They all were asleep
@@Randomly_Browsing No, this is Russia and they were all drunk.
@@Randomly_Browsing not in the trucks, they were not
@@deepthinker999 I know
@@TheRealNatNat ?
So the ground crew noticed the plane ahead of time and chose to ignore it since the controller didnt respond. Oh well
Whenever I see Aeroflot I know it's gonna be good
“You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.” - Nikola Tesla
Texting and flying can get you killed.
Great video, In your next video can you do TAESA 725?
A diversion at OMSK was surely required if ATC was not answering?
Both of these incidents seem very familiar to me. But still a good video.
WHY was it designated as a NORTHWEST Airlines flight after they merged?
Because a corporate merger doesn't automatically change the flight certificate under which an airline operates. For example, after US Airways merged with American it took a further two years of a single company operating under two different operating certificates.
I was just thinking that and it seems like less confusion would be the goal but if that were the case this video would not exist
Also, it sounds like monopoly money micromanagement hell, so maybe the pilots were actually having to do the airline's job FOR them on their laptops in real time in the cockpit
They left their alarm clock at home. My stupid freind would sleep at night, autopilot on, set his alarm clock for 30 minute segments & fall asleep. MU-2.
🥺 I hope that they've lost their licences at least.
I looked up the first one on Wikipedia and it's literally copy-pasted haha but the animations are very realistic and I'm sure it takes some effort.
🌿 V. O. D. K. A. 🌿
I swear this is a re-upload
That's what I thought too. I'd seen it before.
It's the re-upload of two videos,the thing tfc does often
So what?
Yeah, another reupload. I feel like I'm seeing a pattern here. He uploads a new video that isn't a reupload, then he does a reupload next, then another video that isn't a reupload.
I haven't seen it....
You didn’t even mention how many people died on the russian airline.
Man that looks a lot like a Trident.
Why is it just airplane engine sounds ?
Make a video on Pk 404, this Pakistan airline plane is missing from 1989 and was never found.
Wow!
I feel asleep at work..but I work for the postal office lol
I'm surprised the NW guys never received a: "Career In Transit " master warning on their MFDs😂
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Why is the A320 a Delta instead of northwest?🧐🧐
Government subsidized vodka was the cause. LOL
Northwest that looks like delta😂
And the distracted captain of the second story was worried about his retirement BEFORE this gross negligence?
“You stupid maintenance people! How the HELL did you think this is ok?” Then I remembered… this is Russia.
ATC was High on Vodka
OK,I can understand shoddy service, training, overworked schedules, dismissal of rules - add whatever you wish here - from crappy 1980's USSR - and I am reminded how we all used to call that airline "North WORST".
The cars and other equipment looks too modern for 1984.......
Glad to see that this didn't result in a crash or anyone being hurt or killed!
Sarcasm detection activated.
@robertmcghintheorca49 What do you mean? I'm no being sarcastic. The plane didn't crash. Didn't you see how the video ended?
@@JukeboxJoeB Oh. I thought you were referring to the Aeroflot plane. Sorry.
The crew drying the runway were killed.
@@gusmc01 Drying the runway? What were they killed by?
Why did the company have only one person working as a controller? They are not at fault then him.. Especially if he was over worked.
Yup! I’m prejudiced. I read “Russian” and assumed bad things. Edit: sure enough.. the only person in charge fell asleep. God forgive me for assuming the obvious!!
Can we get voice overs for the video again I loved that and its objectively better too as its more content / multidimensional.
Or 2 versions of a vid, 1 voice over 1 subtitles. Although I fail to see why the some of the audience wants subtitles only.
Somehow, these sort of incidents don’t really surprise me in any Communist or former eastern block countries. The system breeds slipshod work attitudes. Also, a 23 year old is the sole person in the control tower? I have several nephews and a niece who are in their early 20’s. Sorry, but unless Russian young adults are significantly more mature than Americans, they just don’t have the life experience to adequately handle such a high stress, high responsibility job by themselves. Even when highly experienced, common sense should tell you there should always be at least two people in the control tower of a heavily used commercial airport. It wasn’t a situation with a few small private planes, a single runway and a windsock in a field in the middle of nowhere!
Remember, it was a Russian (or USSR) flight that went down because the pilot let his young teen kid come up and fly the plane. Everyone was killed.
The delta pilots joined the mile high club that night with a sexy flight attendant. They all ended having a good time in the cockpit with her 😂
stupid comment!😠
The cvr is AI-recreated. Doesn't sound right.
Why would they have a 23-year-old kid air traffic controller, the only one on duty, at that time?
Becuase Pootin ordered
23 year old people are adults.
@@cibularas3485 You mean Gorbachev.
Shit happens. It's a short life in the best of circumstances. They didn't mean it for it to happen. RIP to all
That makes no difference to their culpability in this disaster. Criminal action warrants heavy punishment.
This video inspired me to quit flight school and become an alcoholic 😭😭
Uh...what a garbage take. "Oops! Didn't mean to kill those innocent people. My bad!" 🙄
Since most viewers of air crash videos want to see explosions and fire, why not give it to them in your videos.
1 injured?
I think you made this video before
One of the most DISTURBING crashes 💀💀💀💀💀💀
The plane didn't crash. Didn't you see how the video ended?
Aeroflot? Agree, completely horrific. All those children and infants. No sudden impact death in to the ground or better in to a mountainside. Video never confirmed all died except one plus 4 in the cockpit. Thanks to the comment from @Aircraft1606
"Ok, but I've worked with better."
Yea, that makes me think the pilot asked the co-pilot to take over while he took a quick nap. The co-pilot then also nodded off. Probably just didn't want to throw him completely under the bus, although he probably should have.
they had to have fallen asleep on NW188, no way they would wanna risk ground control thinking it’s another 9/11 about to happen
both pilots ...what are the odds
Rip the controller
Bruh
@@Randomly_Browsing bruh
Bruh
Amen.
Bunch of morons. How could so many of these workers be so damned negligent and lazy... Smh.
Anatoly Bordonsov
I’m about to fall sleep right now
Yo, Soviets, amateurs!
Could you please upload a new video instead of reuploading an old one? I need something fresh!🙄
Same vid:
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Damn, nice catch. I also discovered that the text is all copied from Wikipedia haha. Originality is dead.
You mostly need to find other things to do if you're that desperate.
What is track name at 8:08
Why am I watching these videos. I’m afraid of flying now since the pilots don’t need to have a medical check anymore.
Non sense. Pilots are medically scrutinised throughout their entire careers.
Why are you asking us why you do something?
Asleep at work. Firefighters get away with it every-night everywhere.
They damn sure don't in Los Angeles, buddy. Over 1000 rollover crash calls alone on the average weekend night and that's not even tending to the countless rubbish fires
at least the 4 negligent maintenance crew that did not light up their trucks will not do it again
A hell of a lot of reading involved, i want to be entertained not schooled
Too much of that fancy book learnin' for ya? These videos are mostly pictures with a few sentences. Did you find reading comic books to be a challenge?
@@marks6663 yes
the TikTok generation speaks
Still having trouble tying your shoelaces I supposed? Reading time?
My Uncle was the controller that night. He never did get over what happened
Wasn't your dad the captain of this doomed flight? And I'm sorry for the loss of your sisters and brothers sitting in the back.
Liar. Comrade Dave needs psychiatric help.
no he wasn’t
@@Jrushrae.😂😂😂
Sure......
first
The pinnacle of your life’s achievements. What’s left now?
@@Lauriedriverlmfao 😹😭
@@Lauriedriverprobably collecting "firsts" lol
@@Lauriedriver Nothing wrong with saying First. Dude gets the thumbnail of a well watched channel within the first minute, it's kind of a YT game thing.
I caught this in the first hour from the UK. Most channels I follow I'm usually 7 - 16 hours behind everyone else. That gives me bragging rights of sorts 🙃
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