Has Panasonic Surpassed Canon AND Sony?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- Some more comparisons with the new Panasonic S5 II vs Sony and Canon. Is Panasonic color science class leading? Does the official Panasonic rec 709 LUT ruin your footage with oversaturated reds? Canon EOS R vs Panasonic S5II vs Sony A7S III.
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I'm not kidding when I say I want to support Panasonic for the mere reason that they sent you the S5ii in that Pony of Hope trailer! That proves that Panasonic is a company that is paying attention to its users, and that they have a sense of humor. Love it.
I didn't know the Panasonic S5 II came with a sense of humor and some charisma. Using Carrot Top prop humor to win over all the camera reviewers who criticized them is genius. 🚚🐎🔨
That is one gay-ass channel name. Change it. "Life in Frame" my ass.
Panasonic even mentioned you and the pony of hope on stage at CES. They reaally are great at PR, among the camera companies.
Video link? (or it did not happen.)
I went to look and didn’t see it 🤷♀️, atleast not on their official presentation
At 6:18 of this Lumix live stream! th-cam.com/video/K9BTJrVitx8/w-d-xo.html
@@EricCreations lol thats hilarious
@@EricCreations Thanks for sharing that.
Panasonic actually really gave you that trailer and everything? That's incredibly cool and thoughtful of them. I wish European Panasonic was as attentive as Sean and the gang.
It is, it shows very much panasonic understand you and the channel!
Seriously? They send the S5II in a pony trailer?
Genius and they have my respect for this!
Now go make the G9II
The tweaked luts on both Panasonic and Sony definitely looked nicer than before. Right at the end all 3 lined up the Panasonic looked really decent not as yellow as the Canon, looked both natural yet still pleasing nice lut effort
Unsurpassed sense of humour while still delivering your message - HIGHLY entertaining!!!!!
Love how Panasonic has a sense of humor 😂 Props on the kit to care for the pony hahaha
The sheer comedic genius of that multicam sequence at the start had me lmfao 🤣 😂 Casey NEVER lets me down
I don't think there is a more entertaining camera review channel out there. Keep up the great work.
This makes me love Panasonic even more. Time to sell my R5/A7S3 for real now, to be ready for the S1H MkII. While I have the GH6 and S1H, I honestly was afraid to stick solely with Lumix. For paid work, they are great but I didn't use them for my personal use due to the amount of setup I have to do to get the most out of them.
The horse trailer was great. When I did a promotional video with Panasonic for the GH5 back in 2017 we had fun. The Panasonic exects were very easygoing.
Most of the time, in most situations, I feel like Panasonics have the best “look” and this pretty much confirms it. They definitely do skin tones the best almost all of the time. Using that Color Space Transform was impressive. I guess the real takeaway here is knowing what tool to use for each different job and then learning how to finesse the final product.
Every day I get sold more and more on Panasonic by watching this channel. The Panny meeting and follow-up spoke volumes to me. Yes, I am sold even on the days it gets beat up here.
A big picture of a squirrel or woodpecker on your wall would really tie the room together!
Panasonic should truly hire you as an offset tester and consultant. End of the day your always brutally honest in your opinion of all products. I have the Panasonic S1 hoping their will be some updates but I'm sure they are past that. I think the original Panasonic with the 709 did you justice and looks best overall but sometimes Sony gives you a certain shine face wise in a good way that's my opinion.
Thank you for describing the exact thing that happens when I start messing with colour levels. It's harder than everyone says it is.
"Bring this down 10, push than up 5, bing bang boom, now it's perfect"
NO. It looks dumb now, or does it? I'll go away for a bit and then look again. Original, current, original, current. Eek.
Panasonic certainly wanted all the red possible with the S52. Currently developing a Lut tackling that issue.
5 stars this one. Definitely a rewatchable episode.
The CST is the way to go with the panny. The red color is closer somewhat,but in general the colors are more rich and dense like film.
This video could not of come out at a more perfect time for me. I’m doing a video involving a big red Milwaukee Pack Out box using an FX30, a G9 and a BGH1 for an overhead. Plus an M6 for the odd hand held shot. Trying to get all those to match… kill me now. You don’t realize how ridiculous Panasonic reds are until you’re filming a big red box. Or watching a guy in a red shirt jump back-and-forth between cameras. You know there’s something to be said about black and white video.
The former hobo window cleaner becomes a Panasonic ambassador! Finally, some respect for your integrity, uniqueness and freshness.
your speech/line intro transition across 3 cameras was awesome
If you want a simple repeatable way to adjust color in Resolve, try "printer lights" which emulates how film labs adjust color. It provides incremental steps for each color that are easy to repeat and seems to have less interaction between colors.
Don't have the S52 yet, but the GH6 with the color space transform is easily the best log I have used yet. Just fantastic roll off and overall colors.
Also I do shoot hair tutorials all the time( wives youtube channel Stylesbysummer), Panny for life. We just did a collab with a youtuber with a Canon camera, the color change was real. I didn't even try to match them because I was given 8 bit on the Canon side and just left it alone for parody.
The best way is to get a calibration tool, like Spyder or Colormunki. If your screen and software is calibrated, your eyes will get used to true colours and you'll see deviations and colour casts very easily.
I seriously think that I am going to make the switch to Panasonic and get the S5ii. I can start investing in their lenses (hopefully they have more long lenses coming) and I will be ready to upgrade to the S1H MkII when its released with all those great features that Kasey is asking for!
A Panasonic pony of hope trailer. How cool is that!
Hope they're still shipping with the cameras!
Been saying for years , lumix cameras are the best mirrorless cinema cameras . Leica partnership . Just beautiful images .
I was convinced I want a Sony A7sIII, but after hearing about your feedback of Pani company culture…. IDK - I like that. I may see what Pani would work best for maritime wildlife and my kid’s lacrosse vids. Thanks!
you had me at "it's jaundice, my liver hurts" :)))))
Kijiji sellers being "away" and magically selling items is a real certified affliction. Many of us suffer.
For the Phantom LUTS, the Neutral A7S3 just can't be beat.
(but you have to nail exposure, get your white balance right, and shoot at native ISOs)
Phantom luts expose for 0 and not +2 like most people say to expose for slog footage. so its always grainy when i shoot monitoring with phantom luts. Have you noticed this?
To me it looks like Canon just makes skin tones yellower and crushes them together (less variation in colors and tones). You can do that for any photo in Capture One skin tone tool (push the tones towards yellow and crank up the uniformity sliders) very easily. It doesn't help for videos but it shows what Canon is doing.
Leica and red/blackmagic colour science is still the best. It has made me realise that colour science and skin tones are also tied in with the quality of the lens i.e. leica lenses go for a more vibrancy type of look where skin tones are completely safe as opposed to just saturated colours and peach skin. Panasonic is trying to copy leica but they unfortunately end up with pig skin tones and crimson reds which also give men pink lips.
Good on Panny boy for shipping you the S5ii in the pony of hope trailer. 😂😂. I feel your pain on the color grading. Every time I start tweaking things, it all goes to $hit. Have you tried shooting S-Cinetone and apply small tweaks in post? You do give up some dynamic range, but for talking head videos, you really don’t need 14 stops (unless you decide to REALLY crank up that lantern of life)
@RandumbTech - Yup I shoot nothing but S-Cinetone. It gives me a beautiful baked in texture with great highlights and shadows and looks Cinema-like because the sharpness is understated so it looks more film-like. I highly recommend it! Don’t care about losing a bit of dynamic range as there is a lot regardless. S-Cinetone is Sony’s secret little gem that very few use or even know about! No need to spend hours fixing flat S-log footage and super easy to expose…
Most informative and full of practical wisdom and mixed with sharp humor! This channel is amazing! The Panasonic shines! Would like sometime to see a NIkon in the mix someday...someday!
I agree. It would be good to see comparisons with Nikon & Fujifilm and OM included.
Maybe when Nikon gets around to making ONE FX body with a flippy screen, and I don't even shoot much video. SMDH ;)
You are a photo ninja. Nobody wants to talk about this for fear of getting stabbed or getting pummeled by blunt force trauma with a pre mirrorless dslr body. I will go out on a limb and say it: Sony makes people look like zombies, but very sharp pixel peeping zombies. Panasonic sometimes looks like their red is some kinda of ridiculous cheap lipstick, but their videos are so smooth.
9:05 the best reaction in the galaxy
Lumix are the coolest camera company ever
Panasonic for life!
I agree. The Panasonic looked more natural in the final shot. The Canon skin tones look orange, and the Sony skin tones look artificial, not accurate, but like some bad artist's interpretation of what he thinks skin tones look like.
Red is always an issue, because red light waves are so fast and powerful. but, of course, all this can be easily fixed in post, especially if you're shooting in 10 bit.
The Canon makes you look jaundiced---like you need a liver transplant.
What might be better is to see all three of these cameras in the "Natural" profile. That would tell you a lot. Shooting in Log and adding a LUT for 10 bit video basically means you can make it look the way you want to with the color grading tools we now have in our NLEs.
Essentially, your video proves nothing. But I will tell you for sure, getting the Sony skin tones to make a human look human is absolute torture, and after an hour of tweaking it still won't look right.
Panasonic always had a warmer near real colors
You should try the real time lut on the s5ii. You can get Fuji colors straight out of camera if you get the right lut.
Sony A1 colors are (finally) better than Canon. So this convo is all about Sony stigma.
Panasonic gave the Pony of hope transport... I nearly clicked buy (through your affiliate links) just for that! Oh and I like Sony and the Sony LUT Canon have some weird dark, yellow, snake skin thing going on. Well on my screen anyway.
Was just about to say the pony of hope set you created was the best thing you have done in quite some time.. thinking in back of my head the trailer looks official, and you must have spent some time and money getting the decal printed. Shabam, it was official. That's a collector item for your retirement fund right there.
I shot an interview with two people (Sony A7IV), outdoors on an overcast day. One of the people had normal skin tones, but the other one just looked green-ish which I eventually had to correct in After Effects. I'm seriously thinking of getting a makeup kit now :(
No client has ever said that the colors sucked unless it is very off. They will only point out where the out of focus scenes are and ask if you can get them in focus.
Because they aren't seeing side by sides with better colour :)
Sony's colors look to digital. Surprisingly I love Panasonic's the best
thing is, for any skin hue that is a bit tanned, canon and pana make it look nicer (to my eyes). on pale winter white european canadians canon makes you look a bit yellow and pana like you drink too much alcohol
Well, I actually prefer Son'y colour science, so shoot me!
Saying that is easy on a videography channel. Try this on a weapons enthousiast channel if you dare.
@@mankepoot9440 It's a turn of phrase, not a literal invitation!
Gerald’s fancy chart 😂
12:45 Sony= I am cold, turn the heat up. Canon I got a slight tan, Panasonic, I am Indian.
The shirts look wrong on all of them, look like they have a shine to them, like they are made from velvet.
Honestly I love the Sony neutral color. I think that Canon color has a space in occasional workflows especially in images. As you turn to these different LUTS the more I look at Pan and Canon for the video aspect I prefer the standard Sony color. But it’s just a taste… not saying you’re wrong.
There isn't one camera that does red quite right.
The color Red starts with White and it's measured in Grey 😜
Cheers 🍻
lolol, can't believe they actually sent you that pony of hope stuff
What a great day. The sign off is back!
that first 1min is just so on point xDDDDD
Oh boy
Panasonic red punched a whole in my screen!
I think all it takes for Panasonic to finally overtake Sony and Canon in the video world is add phase detection autofocus to their cameras, finally it has happened. 😅
Pure madness, pure genius, pure pony of hope!
Gamut Sony was a bit better than default Sony (shirt *AND* face) -- the Panasonic improved also -- but both the Sony and Panasonic were still a bit more saturated than Canon....
You can change color with filters in the Camera built in or download pre
Panasonic s5ii looks very good now with that CST, in resolve, with a little tweaking its possible to match with that canon now :) I hope the s1H II has 6k 60p or just internal raw and prores. That would be awesome for me :)
You know Davinci Resolve has an auto colour tuner when a colour board is in frame?
Great Panasonic acknowledged your feedback.
Brilliant intro - you got a sub out of me big-boy!
I just watched a man feed an imaginary camera horse.
The phantom LUT's are excellent fwiw
Good idea. Another processor in other grip. A camera with two grips!! Nobody has care for lefties for years!.
Great video! You can also do it outdoors! We are waiting more s5ii videos and opinions👍
Get the phantom LUTs!
Get the phantom luts. You could do weld of videos reviewing them.
Which company is trying to bribe you when they sent you that new electric bicycle in the background? Pentax?
Just from having had a similar experience in a slightly different area, I have to ask: have you calibrated your monitor? I do it every 4-6 months with an i1Display, it's not that its going to help in grading video to anybody's subjective/artistic preference, but you get more precise/accurate at it overall, especially at judging/visualizing differences.
There is no measure. Even the chart , its based on someone who made it by grading and adjusting to what they are seeing. The science is in experience of know how things should look, or comparing one sample to the next in adjusting for the eye precision.
Finally a vintage Camera Conspiracies Ending - but where are the Fuji colors? I miss them as I've missed the vintage ending! Bring it back :)
I wish you would have put a Nikon camera to this comparisson. I almostnonly do stills and love their colorascience! Besides, thanx for your unconventional videos. Evan though i'm only a boring stills fotographer, i really enjoy them...
The sign-off....😂
you should think of Lights when you say color , because without lights all is black , your face is black, so your face is actually the color of light you are using , and they are all different color . You cant compensate for it with WB , thing is LED lights dont have even spectrum so you end up green , its not the cameras fault , its your lights .Panasonic seams to have compensated for it the best .
Color Space Transform for the win.
Watching in 144p because my vpn dosnt like me,trying to workout which color looks better, at least bokeh is good in 144p, who needs auto focus when you can't see anything.no other reason to comment just waiting for the video to load.
Ouch, that's torture.
"i love canon yellowish skin tone, even my liver is hurt" this crack me up, and 100% ACCURATE ... i think u can using canon color to skip job, and pretend u have liver problem to your office.
Is the intro video an actual full song or just a small segment created for this channel?
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I'm proud to be a Panasonic boi
The best camera is a camera that you don't need after processing ...color correcting,light ...and the trick is a super lens kit....get back to Ccd sensors ...😁
I mean you can choose to not shoot log and just use standard straight out of camera
@@fredriksvard2603 ...what I mean ,is that Leica,Hasselblad , Fujifilm...Kodak film...they use to have cameras that provided a photo,image that didn't needed anymore adjustings etc
@@rellaxum hmm... people postprocessed black and white analogue film photos back in the day too, idk that current cameras are worse at delivering straight out of camera photos. Isn't it more about expectations, nowadays images are expected to have a filter or editing done to it and sooc seems "raw". Same with hollywood, look at how natural movies from the 60s-80s look compared to the artificial orange/teal "grading" that's become the default.
@@fredriksvard2603 right...I owned an 80s Leica ...I didn't needed adjustments like nowadays ...that in many cases it's no more pleasure ,photography phenomenon changed in a way too commercial ...far from reality colors ,way to far ...but that's business and people...
Also had as I call it "most beautiful toy" a rolley ( film camera 📽️ 35 mm...and even some lenses...tools for art photography...✅👍
First impression on the gamut LUT is that it's OK. Your face looked less green. OTOH the shirt seemed brighter, but more orange. Maybe it's my phone.
These days I use C Log 3 and don't bother with LUTs at all. Tweak the curves and the LOG wheel panel, bada bing. Done. It helps that I'm a loser photographer who studied color theory in college, shoots RAW, and makes color adjustments all the time.
Should probably go visit Thailand now since restrictions are removed, you'll have plenty of content ✨🎊🙏
To my eye, Sony color with Sony LUT looks best. I am biased though, my first camera was the old Sony SLR and I have tried canon, Nikon, olympus, fuji, but always miss the Sony color 😅
Does canon have a beauty filter on by default?
Can't you use flat colour profile of some sort? then adjust color correct, to tweak just the colours that needs it.
Kudos to Panasonic. I didn't think that they like your jokes. 😉
Have a serious self-debate about throwing my S5 1 body up on eBay and grabbing an S5 MK II!
When i got my leg amputated my wife traded in my EOS A2 for an EOS R...
My foot hasn't grown back yet But DAMMM my face looks great in pics now !! 👍
The GH6 has the best colors. The S5 II looks really close.
7:36 is exactly why I come back each and every day! HERO CASEY!!!
Maaan, Panasonic killed it with their parcel to you!!! Good marketing team, I need a job there!!!
In the cst in davinci resolve you can change one setting and your reds will be normal
A lot of research work here man. thank u