Panasonic S5: This is Why I'm Leaving Panasonic FOREVER
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2025
- That's the last straw. Panasonic S5 is exactly what we thought it was. A capable camera with the same terrible autofocus. Panasonic refuses to update it, and I won't be around to watch them try.
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I see your pinned comment brosef... I see it
The pinned is working, maybe you have a blocked words filter active which auto hides certain posts containing theses words?
@@4WheelsOnTheRoad It should only block others from using those words lol. But it appears to work today, that's good.
I see it too.
I see your comments
Of course you have a soft spot for Panasonic in your heart. It's out of focus.
Nice
It’s funny cause he’s always out of focus
Panasonic jokes will never get old
hahahaha
That was clever 😄 You have to admit that.
I just hit play and my body is ready.
lol :)
But what about your lens? 😎
I've been here long enough to know that all this trash talk means nothing. As soon as he gets the S5 he will love it.
You miss the point of Toneh. Most cameras can only get 90% out of focus. Panasonic can get 100%without the need for expensive glass. It's a masterpiece of Toneh
he's not going anywhere... he's gonna get a S5
I say he stays with Fuji, although the reptilian siii is getting out of toneh in his mind.
Pedro Santo he wants a full frame vlog camera so he wont stick to fuji
2 of them.
thats for sure
The 'problem' isn't so much the camera, or any camera, it's vloggers who expect the camera to do everything for them, while they make the least possible effort at half way decent filmmaking as they walk round the block. And the camera mustn't be too heavy or very expensive... Every manufacturer is chasing around trying to please the world's worst/laziest video makers.
Well, well. How quickly we change. You went from having no problem with using a 7 year old Samsung camera with lenses made in Wuhan brothels to "I will accept no less than Sony full frame. Now bring me my Grey Poupon, peasant"
of course, all he wants is the perfect camera. The Sony really seems to be that
It’s called growth.
@@boztos6025 Thanks, dad.
Ali Bubba Superboy
He has evolved, he can now discern when an image is in focus.
4:24 Wow, that AF failure was perfect.
Panasonic is listening though the sensor that's why the auto focus is bad
"Panasonic is like a 90 year old man trying to understand TikTok"... best line ever! :)
"make sure it's blurry so people will focus on what's really important..." hahahahaha. Hahahahahaha
Panasonic is being so stubborn with their contrast-based AF. I wish they would release less cameras, but actually greatly improved ones.
There are rumors that sony isnt allowing panny phase detect on their sensors...
@@I5H78 isn't Sony sensor division separate from their camera?
@@carlkim2577 true.. but think about it.. which company gives you a more powerfull camera for the money if AF wasnt a issue
@@I5H78 agreed. I have a g9, and I love it. But unfortunately, I need great auto focus.
@@carlkim2577 yeah I got a bmpcc 4k, so you can guess where the "good fast AF" on my top priority list sits 😅
Very good review man, love your humor. To be honest, Panasonic S Lumix cameras are not meant to be vlogging cameras, mostly due to the AF system. However, for someone who prefers to work behind the camera and rigs, this camera delivers amazing results. Think of driving an automatic car vs stick-shift...just a different cup of tea for different people.
Madness is repeating the same thing expecting different results - Issue a camera, can't focus in video, issue firmware update, issue firmware update, issue another camera , can't focus in video, issue firmware update, issue firmware update, issue another camera etc etc
So cinematic! That boardroom meeting killed it! literally! Good content!
1:00 I have the pinned comment problem too. In my case I tracked it down to "share a sale" links that KEH uses. I also keep the number of links to 3 or less. Haven't had issues with Amazon, B&H, and shortened eBay links so far. You might want to send feedback in TH-cam Studio.
Oh damn, might be those share a sale links.
You’re the only guy on TH-cam I’ve seen carry on a conversation with his camera’s autofocusing system in real time
so true. They send me the new vloggin cam. 110v i used in my Video. The autofocus is useless. Great cam but with Contrast AF u can pull it in the dirt. Useless. I dont understand ist how they can be so stupid.-
Actual tears of rage by "Karen" in the boardroom at 5:06 or are you such a talented method actor that you can cry on demand?? Either way, this boardroom scene deserves some kind of award, you've mastered the form.
Need that "tic tok" lut!
Don't get my wrong autofocus is an awesome feature, but if that is what makes or break your decision to buy a camera. You must be a hobbyist.
I was almost disappointed when I heard the S5 came out cause I just bought a different branded camera. Then I heard the autofocus was bad and I was so relieved. Happy with my camera
You seen Max Yuryev's autofocus test with this camera? The improvements over the previous gen Panasonic cameras looks legit... no pulsing and it matched or beat the A7iii in all but fast tracking at 24p. At 60p, it looks practically flawless, which make it useable on a gimbal.
It only looked respectable in aps-c mode, and only in a few controlled scenarios. All other videos show it's true colours, it hunts constantly.
Panasonic has always packed their cameras with all the features except the most important one.
Auto focus for most film makers is the very last thing to think about, unless you’re a vlogger. If the image and the colours are great, thumbs up.
@@harryhall4690 I started out working on small docs and stuff like that. That's why I bought into the Lumix lineup for many years but I've moved into more vlog videos more recently and Panasonic is essentially useless for that. I've gotten tired of looking at footage to find I was out of focus.
HAXMAN yeh I guess if that’s the one thing you need then fair enough! I do natural history and I dont go near the auto focus. Just different tools for different trades. I think Panasonic have been pretty much up at the top for narrative creation, with the added bonus that they don’t overheat on long shoots. S1H is very hard to top at the moment.
@@harryhall4690 I agree
I was intrigued with the S5, Watched 80 percent of Gerald Undone's excellent review (he's always great), but that 2nd or 3rd last category - autofocus. Done. FFs.
didn't they make the gh5 AF pretty good recently? Like nothing that you could do a 5 minute one shot gimbal take with but way better and pretty dependable? They'll do the same for this...I'm shocked they're going to put pro-res raw in these bad boys by Christmas.
I think the bigger issue is why don't all cameras not already have leaf detection?!
Just watched ur S5II video.
Does Panasonic know Karen is moonlighting on the board of every other camera company? I suspect she is the one deliberately holding the camera industry back for her own insidious purposes...
Holy crap... it’s corporate espionage, does Jeffney know??
As youtubers ALWAYS educate me, it's not about the equipment, it's about story telling. Panasonic always wins in the story telling department. So I am getting one.
What? That’s contradicting lol. You’re saying it’s not about the equipment but you’re saying Panasonic always wins in story telling. If this was meant to be a joke, then I stand corrected.
Daus Herryanddhy I hope you appreciate the sarcasm📟
Panasonic does not build cameras for the 1‰ TH-cam vloggers. They build them for everyone else and their AF is fine for us.
Fine? As long as your style includes LOTS of out of focus clips, then sure it is great. You Panasonic fanboys justifying this nonsense is why they still do not bother improve things
Make sure you allow links in your comments, it’s in the settings somewhere. Could be the problem!
I’m looking for the autofocus of a Panasonic, the color profile of a Sony, the lens availability of a Fuji, the heat tolerance of a Canon in 8k, so is that a Sigma?
Upvoted because I needed somewhere to rant about DFD and watching this actually makes me feel better
The S5 is my dream camera actually.
Kasey the improvisational meeting you created at Panasonic with Karen is HYSTERICAL!! The shtick about the wisdom from the grandfather, and Karen’s shpiel about the leaf detection mode cracked me up! You have created a brilliantly comic scene that satirizes not only Panasonic, but also the Entire Camera Industry!! Your fabulous humor is keeping me sane during these uncertain times! Thankyou! BTW I would love a camera with a “leaf detection system”! Or what about a sunrise sunset detection system? The possibilities are endless🤗😉🙃🤪
You should see "Toneh and Chelseh". Lastest review of this camera. No, really. You should. She made a song just for you!
What video and at what time? Be more specific.
@@chrismorenomccarthy8487 Panasonic S5 review, watch at the end
She called him corney too!! 😂
@@airdailyx LOL. Yup. She seemed bitter too.
RisingOne2See
Hmm, maybe Chelsea has a thing for his dominance in the boardroom... could be a love triangle here.😱🤣🤣🤣
I usually agree with Kasey but Max's video makes me think the AF is pretty improved.
Yeah like it wasn't as bad as what people are saying the crop mode was way better for AF. Idk which one to buy still but.. I need a full frame camera.
He got it to look ok in aps-c mode. I've had videos where I'm almost always in focus on the G9, and lots where I'm out half the time, there's no predictability or reliability with Panasonic.
I am going to search garbages in my neighborhood, I'm sure many S5 owners will throw ones, so I can at least get it for free. I know you didn't think about this ingenious idea.
I love the new roadmap with one new lens.
Mad English TV lmao
I love when he cuts to "The meetings"..lolololol
the good thing is professional grade cameras dont need reliable autofocus. Stick to simple powershot cameras for consumers and youll have good autofocus.
Non vloggers giving vlogging advice is such a classic. The 16mm 2.8 is NOT the vlog lens. The only real option for vlogging in the Fuji system is the 18-55 and that's not even a good vlogging lens.
Great review gonna order the S5 as soon as possible!
I love your foreboding intro. One of the most suggestive of stinks and failures in the camera land without uttering a word.
OMG, that TikTok bit was pure gold.
The problem is that panasonic delivered what sony and canon did not, with the 10 bit non time limited video. Now that sony caught up, they have to do something even better, or finally make better auto focus.
So they either do 6k high fps(96-120) in some form of RAW(or compressed RAW)/at least pro res.
Or they figure out how to make there organic sensors affordable, because on sensor ND, global shutter and high dynamic range is a hard to beat combo.
Or they make there camera much cheaper.
This why Panasonic has my money, because they are for photographers.
I gotta say, I had this camera on my radar. Heard several people talking about the focus issues compared to Sony. Loved this video. I think I will take this camera off my list and continue looking at Sony. I need a huge video upgrade for our TH-cam channel. Subbed!
I cannot handle that you have a windscreen on a lavalier inside. That is like the Panasonic of mic decisions.
Thank you for pointing that out.
"leaf detection mode.." GDammit man, tears! 🤣🤣🤣
Yup posted my s1 on eBay last night ... 2020 the year all makers found a way to cripple what could have been the best products on the market.
word on the street is that Panasonic plans to upgrade the s1 with several more updates throughout year. In an interview with a Panasonic rep, he made it pretty obvious that the s1 is getting every feature from the s5, plus maybe more.
Can someone please help me decide. I want a Panasonic camera that's is incredible at filmmaking/video but also does excellent at photography. So far I've narrowed it down between the GH5, GH5S, S1, and S5.
01:33 You scared me. Why no warning in advance? That was your sad life without Canon cripple hammer, Fuji Assassins, Panasonic Pony, Boardroom Meetings, Toneh and ‚Is this good content‘. How can we bear that sight? But you are saved now. That is what matters.
Compared with nearly 4 year old GH5:
- worse IBIS
- worse EVF
- worse HDMI port
- worse LCD
- worse 4K60
- worse record limit
- worse UHS1 SD card slot
- worse lenses with worse combo size/weight
- Same crappy DFD (Don't Focus just Defocus) AF technology
What have the Panasonic product decision people been smoking? DO NOT BRING THIS DFD C-AF SHIT TO GH6 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
8:45, that line with squirrels was funny as sh.. 😆😆
To be honest the G9 performed really good in this video. I own a G9 and I have to say I dont have any issues with the AF when vloggin or shooting stuio video.
ahojahojish do you thank they will ever make a GH6 or a G10
It hunted quite a bit. If I had higher standards, it would have ruined the board room meeting.
@@brybeeson7516 I dont know. I love my G9. Though I dont know how much more features you can pack in a camera LOL. Like I dont even use half of the G9 features, so the only reason I would buy a G10 or a GH6 would be the phase detect AF, which panasonic will never do, because apperantly, they said it ruins the image quality (WHAT??) and that their focus is on improving their AF technology rather than changing it because DFD is faster and more precise... I dont know what they have been smoking to believe that. Litteraly every test on the face of the planet proves them wrong. So yeah, even if they do come out with those cameras, unless it has new AF (it will not), I dont feel the need to buy it.
Well to be honest panny is killing themselves by neglecting autofocus. I went FF before panny entered the ball game and was already shooting Sony's a7r3 for stills and suplimemtal short clips. But I still use the gh5 as my main video 4k 10 bit machine. So Sony making the a7s3 have 10 bit unlimited 4k is perfect for me since I'm already invested in Sony lenses. I will miss my gh5 for sure. But it's on to the reptilian overlords pastures where low light had to be good for their sensitive eyes. And autofocus is powered by alien tech they use to track the human cattle. Goodbye pony of hope. I will miss your toneh pulsating warpy goodness, and the crazy noise from mid day, lights on, indoors.
Praise Sony Reptilian Overlords
Hi Kasey, with this review probably they will keen not sending you new cameras ;) Seriously, thanks for sharing your thoughts. They are valuable. Panasonic should listen. It is a pity, it is a great camera but with a lack of reliable AF.
It's so frustrating, how can we be in 2020 and still waiting for a g85 with good autofocus. They just need to make the same exact camera with PDAF and it's done.
ok this video deserves an Oscar...but for gods sake turn off the autofocus on the G9....
You should buy Olympus with all the camera conspiracies t-shirt proceeds and build said perfect camera!... Please!
Make Oly even bigger and sensor smaller with build in reptilloid detection and elimination system to clear all the boards once and for all from all bad blood...
I think the only logical explanation might be that Sony and/or Canon gives panny money to NOT develop a dual pixel auto focus system.
lol this is so true. i'm traumatized from the Panasonic autofocus so much so that with my new Fuji XT4, i'm always scared im not in focus when i am.
Battered wife syndrome.
i'm scarred from the Panasonic experience.
But Fuji XT4 is a good person. I have to let love back in.
Kasey, I've stopped pay much attention to Panasonic anymore. For video, AF is the one thing I and many need, but they refused to deal with. Otherwise amazing cameras... Why do you think they refuse to fix it?
That meeting is pure gold!
Almost 4 years with my GH5 now. I run two channels. The other one is ArcticRc. I try to use manual focus most times. But as i mentioned from the ArcticRc channel i really hope the rumors are real and that the GH6 will have it all. I have filmed everything from rc planes to nature and i really love the GH5. I only wish it was better on photos. But we will see. You have two great channels and i find them very entertaining. Thank you. 😊
Funny video but I’ve never had a problem with my S1 IBIS & AF, maybe you missed all the menu options to fine tune it to your liking ☺️
In conclusion; it's lost in Toneh because of the AF performance. neat. lol
Four years back, I asked one of the photographer about the Panasonic cameras for photos and video shooting...The honest man replied me, Panasonic focus sucks man... Don't buy that sh*t, his advice still valid. Who want to pay premium for a shoddy AF camera?.
So they didn't send you a camera to review.
Outrageous.
Trevor Philips best camera channel on TH-cam and no one pays attention! This is sad
Why would they. He slams every camera 😂
@@smiff9577 His number of subscriptions is a fraction of others now
Panasonic is making some weird choices. Something is not right over there. Reminds me of that huge freak show camera Olympus released. They are just throwing stuff against the wall and hoping something sticks. It wont’t.
Since all phase detect sensors are made by Sony, I guess panny doesn't wanna deal with Sony?
Never is a very, very long time. You'll be back. They *always* come back.
Awesome! Loved the role play! Was so funny!
You’re good, you talk a lot of honest shit, I like you. Not a lot of youtubers dare to say what you have done, I mean upsetting the companies, so called the big boys. But you speak your mind, honest feeling, truth to consumers like me. Well done!
LOL... "hollywood sold thier soul for adrenochrome"
Hi Dear, will you consider this camera for stills? Did the autofocus sux also for still? Can you recommend this camera for photography over a7III, or Z6 or A7rIII? Bye
What lens did you use in this video? It focuses really well in your Lumix G9
Its a shame to find out that you were embarrassed to be a lumix owner. I was with you since the beginning and i love how you’ve evolved from your window washing days to Thailand and now back to Canada and all the fame and toneh. Your g85 was your constant in Thailand. Its kinda shocking to find out you were embarrassed the whole time. Oh well. Hahaha
Click bait title... you will never leave Panasonic. You need this brand for your critics...
The look on your face at intro was awesome!!!
Wait until the G11 with perfect autofocus comes out. You'll be back and for micro four winner thirds.
My Panasonic LX10 has a terrible stabe and the flippy screen died one year ago. That's the state of the company.
Panasonic wants to improve the AF but the AGREEMENT between the camera companies says that they can’t release it just yet.
Bro, you deserve like a lot of awards for your board room meetings.
S5 autofocus actually looks improved, and i think those improvements are coming to the other cameras in firmware....
Hi, I can get XT4 body for 1500 and S5 with 20-60 for 1700. Which one should I get, time is running out and I cannot decide.
I’m here to commiserate with you. It is disappointing to see Panasonic stick with their inferior focusing system, especially since they continue to tout it as “improved”. I’m no longer willing to buy a camera like this with DFD technology when we see how good autofocus is done by Canon and Sony.
Oh, and your comment is pinned. 👍
I just bought the g85. Now I feel like I need to return it. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but the white balance is out of control on my most recent videos and the autofocus is pretty dang bad. I film my dogs and unfortunately they are constantly out of focus. Do you have a recommendation for a camera for filming your dogs when they're running around I need something with really great image stabilization.
1) Don't trust in auto white balance, it is better to put the balance in Kelvins.
2) Start to use manual focus.
3) Buy a tripod or a gimbal to improve the stabilization.
Your G85 is a good camera.
Steven Stifler Autofocus is the most important feature in a camera now and days, people rather have good autofocus then any other feature. So I’ll tell him to get a Sony a6600. leave Panasonic to video professionals and inspiring video professionals.
@@RealStevenStifler I bought a new lens that fixed the autofocus and the stabilization. I got the Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 12-60mm f/2.8-4 ASPH. POWER O.I.S. Lens.
Now I just need to work on getting the correct settings so that it stops washing out my video. I have been able to correct it in my editor, but I would like to be able to shoot better quality from the start to save time.
@@SenzaTempoCaneCorso Glad to know that you bought that lens 😃
I know that with some practice you will figure out how to have a clean image. Keep it up! 😎 👍
@@SenzaTempoCaneCorso the 12-60 is very hard to use with manual focusing, the flybywire focus ring is quite horrible for manual work. I would buy a fully manual lens like a mitakon or olympus pro with a mechanical clutch
Very honest and accurate review....the only real review i go to every time
Hey Kasey
Did you buy any of Matt Grainger's old Nikon gear 😆
I agree the focus really does need work on my s1r. However, I would take that over the overheating when I had my Sony and Fuji. If you are filming someone and your gear fails you, it puts you off. All these high end cameras with poor thermal performance is getting old. I primary do photos now, however I still shoot video. When I do, I need to be certain in does not shutdown.
I just noticed that the gh6 has no hope of having good autofocus because they would've put it in this camera also.
Are you talking about C-AF or does this apply to S-AF as well?
Pana try to get you back. The S looser 5 has flip screen ! But i don't understand about the price. The goal was to be affordable. Not the same than the S1. And, about the size of the camera, does they autokill GH serie ?
I'm not actually into cameras. When I want to take a photo, my phone exceeds my needs. You're just so entertaining. Two thumbs.
6:29 Never thought I would see something like this without They Live sunglasses.
I've got so much micro four loser thirds glass that it breaks my heart to leave the system, but if the GH6 doesn't implement some variant of phase detect autofocus, I'm done with Panasonic. Selling my glass and moving to Sony. I need reliable autofocus.
The G9 autofocus works well at 60fps but that’s kind of silly.
Waiting for the video after Kasey finally uses the right color space transform settings for vgamut, sgamut, bt2020; so I can see the penance about the slanderous color science claims from before ;-)
(Love the content!)