I have a 2011 CX9 that I bought new and it has 95,000 miles on it. It still dives, rides and even smells new. It has never spent the night indoors and the paint looks factory fresh. I imagine the new ones are even better.
Wa, looks alone, wins over my heart. Loads better than all German SUVs. Impressed with how far Mazda has improved its CX9 from last gen. Great review Alex.
This is the best option in the 3 row crossover section for attraction & practicality.it is super attractive & after much comparison between the immediate competition, I would purchase the top trim with no hesitation.
That's certainly true. But it doesn't mean that (a) a third row of seats in a crossover is useless or (b) third seats in crossovers are all equally accommodating. As Alex notes, we don't use the third row of seats in our Sorento more than 10% of the time, if that. But when we have to chauffeur a gaggle of teenage girls around town or need to carry six or more passengers to a local event when the alternative is to take two vehicles, it's a very useful feature. If one needs to transport more than five passengers AND their gear on a trip, a large crossover or minivan is the way to go. But we've literally never faced that challenge.
The KIA Telluride is another viable option. The fly in the ointment at this time is the availability of the Telluride and KIA dealers' practice of adding "market adjustment" stickers to the MSRP, especially for top trim models.
I'm biased, I have too much a respect for Mazda, but it is exciting to see so many enthusiastic readers of the range of mazda sedan hb and CX crossovers
You're one of the best reviewers on the net. Exhaustive detail, but lots of captions outlining what you're covering, so viewers can skip what they don't care about, straight to what they do. Really, no other reviewers need to be seen, you cover everything, everytime. Kudos for how much work you put into these reviews.
Year and a half ago i was going for a new family car, after trying, santa fe , sorrento, pilot , durango , explorer .... etc all of them in the same price segment , i was disappointed with all of them. I'm one of those persons that likes to drive , to have a family trip quite often. An important fact on that point is that i live in Peru, a country with lots of different kind of roads , mountain roads , icy roads , desert like high temperature roads and specially high altitude roads, 17000 feet high in some places. After trying all of these options, feeling disappointed and seeing that non of these entries were designed for the driver and just to be haulers i received a call from a rep from mazda so i could have a day test driving the cx9 that came to Peru as a 2018 model. i got to say it took me 5 minutes to make up my mind and bouthg the mazda immediately. As soon as i got it my family and i went on a trip that was intended to cross the Andes, a mountain road 16000 feet high with enough curves to make u smile for a month, there is no better suv than the mazda for this kind of trip , handling is amazing for the size and weight, plus the turbo engine will better any non turbo suv hands down, the only suvs that where at the same pace as the mazda in this trip where q7s or mercedes . i can remember one sentence said by my daughter while we were in this mountain road , " dad this feels like you car but much much comfy " ( my other car is an audi s3) . of course, the pilot has much more space, as well as the durango the traverse or the explorer but none of them drive well nor are compatible to where i live. the interior in another league as well compared to this segment , the only flaws that i can feel in this car are , disc brakes are to little in the front which makes then to over heat while driving down the mountain road at high speeds and there is a bit of torque steer while driving it out of the sport mode. regarding the 6 speed auto box it was perfect for the trip , in any moment it needed to lower the gear, this because of the 321 pounds of torque at 2000 rpm... in my experience there is no better suv than the cx9 on this segment.
This company is underrated, . i owned a kompressor and i have recently bought the signature trim of the mazda CX-9 , and i tell .. the benz has nothing over this vehicle. Thats all
Marco Ruiz you just sold me on the CX-9. I need a drivers car for road trips and in town driving with my wife and two teenage girls. This will be my wife’s ride. My work car is a Volvo C-30 Turbo and fun car is a 2011 Shelby GT500 @600hp. Now I just gotta find a Soul Red AWD grand Touring. In my area.
One feature you forgot to mention, Alex, is that Mazda's adaptive cruise control works well in stop and go traffic. When I compared mid-sized cross overs last year, stop and go adaptive cruise control was not available in many other brands. As for driving experience, the CX-9 is almost as good as some very well designed sports cars I've driven in the past. Thanks for for such thorough review. Very informative.
Yep, 2019 Pilot and Highlander adaptive cruise control turns off below about 20 mph. Although the new 2020 Highlander is supposed to finally have adaptive cruise down to 0.
What do you think of the Bose? I have a Genesis G80 with the Lexicon now that I love, don't really want to sell, but a growing family may size me out of the sedan and into an SUV. Thinking this or a used mdx with the els which I know is good. Just haven't had enough time with Bose. Both seem to offer up something somwwhat close to ride, quiet cabin, and build quality of my Genesis
I'm a Honda & Subaru fan. I have never been interested in the Korean brands until now. I'm going to give KIA, Hyundai, and Genesis a thorough look with my next purchase.
I've owned Toyota, Subaru and Hyundai products. Must say that the Korean company is still not up to par as far as long term quality and fit & finishes.
I usually stick with Japanese brands mostly Hondas and Mazdas the Koreans will give you more for your money but I'm still nervous about the reliability and recalls.
I've posted this before, but since you put so much emphasis on combined legroom I thought I'd post this question again: How can we trust the numbers? I feel like the combined legroom numbers are misleading: 2019 BMW 5-series: 77.9" 2019 Altima: 79" 2018 Kia Soul: 80" 2019 Kia K900: 82.3" 2018 Corolla: 83.7" Corolla more legroom than K900...hmmm, I think not. Soul more than Altima and 5-series? Nope!
I've driven both. I'm 6'2" 220lbs. I have no issues on the comfort in any of the front 2 row of seats. The third row doesn't mater to me because that is just for kids. Bumper to bumper, the CX-9 is a much better looking vehicle than the Sorento and all the others in this segment. There is more bells, whistles, safety performance on the $40K package (GT) of the CX-9 than the Sorento. Even if the Sorento has more leg, head and storage room than the CX-9, the few extra inches is not going to make up for what the CX-9 offers for that price.
My wife drives a 2016 CX-9 Signature, one of the first ones, now with almost 50000 miles. To me it still seems to be the best handling 3-row SUV in this price segment. It surprises me each time I drive it on a twisty road. However imo I'd prefer a naturally aspirated V6. My experience is there isn't much difference in real world fuel economy and V6's seem to deliver smoother power. Also wish the CX-9 had 5000 lbs of towing capacity instead of 3500.
We have one and as much as I like power and HP I think the way they set up this engine/transmission is brilliant. It pulls like a little diesel. Lots of low and mid range pulling power. It's a little rougher than a V6 but not bad unless your wringing it out. How has yours performed after 50k miles? Any issues? if this engine/car turns out to be long term reliable then this car is by far the best value in the segment. The fact that it even gets compared to an MDX says it all. I don't see the Honda Pilot compared to an MDX.
What do you think of the Bose? I have a Genesis G80 with the Lexicon now that I love, don't really want to sell, but a growing family may size me out of the sedan and into an SUV. Thinking this or a used mdx with the els which I know is good. Just haven't had enough time with Bose. Both seem to offer up something somwwhat close to ride, quiet cabin, and build quality of my Genesis
@@aaronbooth9222 The Bose sound system is very good but a bit basey. The Signature has a subwoofer. I turn it down. The new one comes with Apple Car Play and Android Auto. You can upgrade the older models for $450, or hack it in yourself - there's a whole world of neat upgrades you can do to the infotainment at mazdatweaks.com/. Note that on the newer models it requires a bit more work to get into the system the first time - the older models are initially easier to access. During a warranty repair, Mazda updated our whole software system from 2016 to the 2018 load which improved the radar cruise control and smart brake support, but it also took away some HUD features for some reason.
@@justinfontaine5539 The engine has performed well. However we had the fuel pump replaced at only 34800 miles under warranty. It took them a while to figure it out and that's when they updated the software from 2016 to 18 as part of the diagnosis - but it was the fuel pump. Long term I worry a bit about having a turbo, but we'll see. We typically keep our cars 10 years 150k miles. I changed the spark plugs myself at 40000 miles - couldn't find a video so I made one th-cam.com/video/ln-oKZi9woQ/w-d-xo.html. I also did one on changing the cabin air filter th-cam.com/video/tUoivDtIKmU/w-d-xo.html. Hope this helps.
alex, I have been watching your videos for years, and based on your video I bought a CX-9 2 years ago. So far it is great, quality is even better than my Infiniti Q50 red sport. Only downsides are missing some features I want because my model is 2016 signature which lacks 360 camera and heated steering wheel and heated second raw and remote start. Other than that everything has been prefect!
@@naveenthemachine poultry? it's chicken? the word you're looking for is "paltry". don't mind me, i'm just teasing you. autocorrect sucks sometimes. have a good one.
When you say kia sorento is more reliable, you're talking it's more reliable than this version of cx9? What are the problems that make cx 9 less reliable? Thanks for the informative review.
All of that exterior chrome is a bit much. That said, great looking vehicle. Mazda posted one of their best sales figures ever in 2018 mostly propped up by the CX line (notably the CX5). Hopefully the brand will see an even better year in 2019. Only owned one Mazda, old '91 626 with a busted transmission, but I'm still a big fan of the brand. Especially since the Kodo design revolution.
Well, I'm currently shopping for a SUV. I like the Kia Telluride EX quite a bit but they're very popular, right now and I've got the Sorento and Mazda CX-9 as my backups. The Sorento and CX-9 are very close and I'll have to drive both to really decide.
Excellent review! I bought a 2020 CX 9 for my wife and she loves it. The cockpit is a really nice place to spend time. The interior is every bit as good as a BMW or Mercedes. My wife is just at 5 feet tall, where I am 6' 1'' and I find the drivers area a little cramped especially my right knee where it hits the center console. I also agree that this vehicle could benefit from paddle shifters. I have them in my 2020 Outback, and I think they are really out of place in that vehicle, but would work well with the CX 9. I also think the CX 9 handles really well, but the ride is a little rough as you pointed out. We also got an amazing deal since we traded in our 2016 CX 9 and got Mazda loyalty discount as well as a veteran's rebate, so we got an amazing deal. The real issue with the CX 9, as with all Mazdas (Found this out the hard way when I went to trade in my Mazda 6) is resale value. The CX 9 holds its value better than other Mazda models, but it is still a sore spot for this brand for some odd reason, because they are really great cars.
I just watched this again... In his view the CX-9 has better steering feel/handling in the base trim than the MDX (or the Pilot no shock there). He compares the ride quality to the luxury segment and gives it a "B". He feels the engine is "punchy and the transmission even with 6 gears is more engaging to drive". Fuel economy will be closer to the EPA rating of 23 combined as these guys hammer these cars much harder than your average person so that's more than competitive. Again only knocks are interior space and no pano roof. He even comments that the Infotainment is much better now. So it looks great, drives great, rides great, handles great, is quiet, has plenty of power and is nice enough to get compared to some of the luxury options out there. And lastly it's proving to be very reliable thus far. There are some 2016's out there with 70-80k miles reporting a clean bill of health. What's not to love?
Now Justin, we both know that there are more "knocks" on the CX-9 than the lack of "interior space and no pano roof." But for a an SUV 199" in length that provides less overall cargo space than a Honda CR-V or a Subaru Forester the lack of interior space isn't exactly a nit.
Yes and personally I don't think it's worth it and I am not in love with the interior color or the wood trim in though it's real but that's a personal choice.@@arthurbirog9516
For me in design, luxury and dynamics Mazda CX_9 is the Best. Sorento option is nice but inside is more car rental except for the info-entertain system that is the best in the market.
@@tinhinnh, the long hood is one if the things that make the CX-9 so great. If I wanted a short hooded, stumpy looking vehicle, i might as well get a minivan. I got a CX-9 exactly because of how it looks and drives as well as the best interior design and materials in class.
@@Josh-179 Motor Trend longterm wasn't holding up very well at 27,000 miles as it was showing allot wear. www.motortrend.com/cars/mazda/cx-9/2017/2017-mazda-cx-9-touring-awd-long-term-update-5-review/
They didn't fail. That's why this guy and most of the other top reviewers pick this as the top dog in this fight. Inspite of it's lack of space relative to body length ( don't care) and it's turbo 4 engine and 6 speed ( that everyone picks on) it still manages to come out on top. Drive one and you will know why. And yes it looks killer inside and out and that's important to some.
I wish I had the faith to by a new Ford product as there are a few that I like on paper but terrible reliability issues. This new Explorer going to a rear drive could be killer but with an all new vehicle from Ford I couldn't do it.
Owner of 2016 CX9 GT, i love it and so does my family/friends. I think they should work on a lot of things. I would love a “CX-10” FULL! SUV something with a V6 or V8. PANO roof would be nice.
i would pick the highlander hybrid - although it would be approximately $4 to $6K more expensive depending on the trim. But if i was looking at non-hybrid 3 row SUV's - i would pick either the Subaru Ascent or the Mazda CX9
I dunno, I’m biased since I own a 2018 CX-9 GT, but I can’t get on board with the “C” ride rating. The ride is certainly not pillow soft, but there is no way it’s C-rating bumpy. I think one of the reasons this CUV rates so highly in general is that it handles like a Mazda6 without a punishing ride. Having cross shopped all of its competitors, I’d say give the ride a “B.”
All the people bringing up Korean manufacturers are going to regret it long term. Japanese car brands are way better in the long run than Korean, even if the Korean brands have more bells and whistles. I am looking at the Mazda, Honda, and Acura the hardest for my next SUV purchase. My current Honda Pilot has almost 200,000 trouble free miles on it, and would keep going if my daughter hadn’t claimed it. I don’t see a Kia or Hyundai going 200,000 miles and having no issues.
Definitely, the best looking SUV on the market. But I've read many complains about CX-5 and 9 about their far from perfect factory paintjob and rust problems. Can anyone clarify?
My wife drives a cx5 she had no problems with her previous 2016 model but got a great trade-in deal she went on and got another for 2018 and it looks more luxurious than the previous model.
@@tragic504 I hope so. Edmund's longterm CX-5 is lacking in a few areas. www.edmunds.com/mazda/cx-5/2018/long-term-road-test/2018-mazda-cx-5-monthly-update-for-january-2019.html
Drove one a year ago , was very impressed from a driving perspective and beautiful interior , but there could be some improvements for the next gen. It would be nice to see Mazda implement a v6 to their family , considering that's the go to choice for many of the competitors. The 3 Rd row for me is about as useful as a Sorento (Not very). Besides a few gripes , beautiful car.
Its odd to me that the biggest knock on the CX-9 is the fact that is has a turbo 4. ( that and space) There are dozens of others both in this specific segment and others and extending into the luxury brands with 4 cylinder motors. For instance Volvo XC-90 2.0 has a turbo 4with the same 250 hp and far less torque. So is that a bad car? Audi sells a 2.0 turbo 4 in its flagship SUV the Q7 and it's the same size as a CX-9? I know it's not directly competing with the RDX and it's 300 lbs lighter but there's another high performance turbo 4 in there. The manufactures are going to have to go down in cylinders not up. And some of the V6's in these vehicles have been around for many years and they are still being used because it's cheaper than replacing them. I bet Toyota puts the 6 cylinder same engine and gear box in it's "all new" Highlander. Why? Money. And even with 6 cylinders and 2 more gears that powertrain ain't all that great.
Alex, I honestly think you are the best car reviewer. You are so thorough with all your reviews and make excellent comparison between vehicles. Giving actual useful space rather than exterior dimension. I know most people don't care but I'm one of those people who careful gimmicks. Such as ambient lighting!! Cx9 had ambient lighting and grill that lights up at night. I hope I'm your future videos you could point those parts out and show the viewers. Thanks!
Captain's chairs are available on some 2020 CX9s. I'd like to know if the captain's chairs can slide forward (for access to third row) with a child seat installed.
They are super super nice, but after looking at the Telluride, and building a sx on their website, you get a lot for your money there and they're absolutely gorgeous I think I'd go with the Kia!!
Already made our choice and leased a CX-9 Signature. Love the premium features and handling for a mainstream price. Averaging 24mpg by staying within the speed limit. Also want to point out that the Highlander’s combined legroom numbers did not compare to the Mazda’s actual space, particularly in the third row, when we test drove it. I can’t explain it but the Toyota’s 3rd row is not fit for anyone with legs while the CX-9 is fine for short rides. We also test drove the Subaru Ascent but, in spite of better practicality, a higher price, less premium features and a truly awful steering feel drove us back to the Mazda dealership.
What do you think of the Bose? I have a Genesis G80 with the Lexicon now that I love, don't really want to sell, but a growing family may size me out of the sedan and into an SUV. Thinking this or a used mdx with the els which I know is good. Just haven't had enough time with Bose. Both seem to offer up something somwwhat close to ride, quiet cabin, and build quality of my Genesis
This car is dam awesome...Looks sick.. The rear and front end are just perfect..It not an busy back end as you state where cleaning is an issue.. not at all.. . I push it hard and it responds like a beast. Anymore would cost $20 000 more and be entering the german car market. This is not your Kia or Hyundai.
Mazda still does not offer a V6 option or a 8 speed transmission. The 4 cylinder engine in the cx9 is horribly complicated because of its head design and the direct injection still has the fuel and oil deposit problem on the valves. Mazda should be ashamed to only offer a 4 cylinder in this 4000+ lb vehicle. That’s why it’s only rated to tow 3500 lbs. As a mechanic I can tell you that working on Mazda’s 2.5 turbo is a nightmare. An expensive one if it’s out of warranty.
What I hate about the Mazda is that there is no 1 touch window roll up or down for the back windows. Also, if you lock the windows, the driver can only move the driver window.
Mazda is the complete brand for me. If I had the money and space to keep all cars, my drive way would be filled with all Mazda cars- Comoact hatch 3, mid size Mazda6, compact SUV cx5, a cx9 and a Miata.
What ruins it for me buying this is its not big enough for my family of 6 and its 227 and 310 of torque is not powerful enough for this big vehicle. A CX5 makes more sense. 300hp needs to be a start. They should also consider a V6. These entries don't offer much options like the competition either. So I would consider Mazda if they would add those features. Plus I wish auto manufacturers would offer a rear liftgate window opening.
Another stellar review on the CX-9. Now the nit picks are down to drivers seat comfort, ( Not a problem for me) no pano roof ( don't want one) and transmission not having enough gears. (and yet the honda 9 speed is all their products is garbage according to Alex here) The biggest beef is the lack of interior room relative to exterior dimensions. I would think that most people who buy this car know that going in and they have eliminated it as a negative factor. They might not have 3 kids and don't/won't use the 3rd row ( which is as usable as most of the others realistically). Bottom line if you want a premium feeling/driving SUV that has some style and flair and don't need 85 cubic feet of total cargo area this is what you want. The Kia Sorento is a more practical choice for sure but not everyone needs to go that route.
Dont know why so many people have trouble understanding this. We love ours, have always had enough room, rarely need the third row and the vehicle looks, feels and drives like a much more expensive vehicle.
We've had this "discussion" a number of times, Justin. In most cases focusing on the CX-9 versus the Sorento. We don't have to rehash all the points again so I'll stick to just a couple of observations. My family consists of my wife, myself, our 14 y/o daughter and a big dog. Only one kid, not three. And at least half the time, we put the entire family in my daily driver, a GTI. We do use the third row of seats in our Sorento on occasion and when we do, it's "more usable" than the CX-9's, especially in terms of legroom. The 29.7" of legroom in the Mazda is two inches less than the Sorento; it's even less than the 30" in a Mustang backseat. Ever tried to sit in a Mustang backseat? I would never claim the Sorento's third row is generous. If third row room was important to us, we'd have gone with a VW Atlas that has two inches more legroom than the Sorento. And even the Atlas isn't as large as the CX-9. Nor do we need "85 cubic feet of cargo space." The slightly greater overall cargo capacity in the Sorento is enough for our needs and the CX-9's would suffice as well. But the entire interior of the Sorento is wrapped in a skin that's nearly a foot less in length than the Mazda. It's less a question of "practicality" than preferring a style that projects an efficient, right sized vehicle. For us, that says "style and flair." In short, we didn't choose the Sorento because it was the more "practical choice;" we rejected the CX-9 because it seemed to us to represent a bloated, if "pretty" vehicle that didn't justify its size. Had we been considering a compact crossover, we would have looked seriously at the Mazda CX-5. It has "style and flair," too. While it sacrifices considerable interior space for its looks, as well, at 179" long it's roughly equivalent or even more compact than its competition. And it has virtually all the other pluses in terms of a "premium feeling/driving SUV." More so, in fact than the CX-9. If one doesn't need or want a third row of seats and doesn't need much more cargo space than a VW Golf, it strikes me as an appealing choice.
I hear you. It's a good debate. They are both nice cars and both at the top of his "list" so there is little debate that they are both good. We actually like that the CX-9 is a bigger vehicle dimensionally. We live mostly in a rural area and every other vehicle is either a full size pick up or a full size gravel truck so having a bigger vehicle just feels safer. That 115 inch wheel base is part of what gives this vehicle such a composed, stable ride, luxury like ride. It's why I traded in the 2016 CX-5 ( awesome car also). It just felt a little too small and un-refined. The CX-9 fix's most of the few things the CX-5 wasn't. ( new CX-5 has lousy cargo space too but in that car it really matters.) I still believe that the while the Sorento is the logical perhaps smarter choice on paper ( price being equal) it does not match the CX-9 in terms of pure driving dynamics, driving feel, interior fit and finish, and exterior styling. Even the "experts" agree on those points. I have been watching KIA grow as a company and I may get around to owning one one day. That Telluride for the same money as the Sorento has my attention. @@stephenhendricks103
In your 2016 cx9 review you have given ride as A in initial test and B in detailed test for 2019 you have given it C where as in 2019 suspension was retuned to make it softer. Why is there so much variance in ride. BtW detailed review overall. Have shortlisted the cx9 signature 2020 model.
"Killer" is probably an accurate description. The weight, alone, would destroy the overall driving dynamics of the MX-5. Add to that the fact that the huge exhaust manifold in Mazda's turbo 4 would require the distance from the A pillar to the front bumper would have to be extended to such a degree that a family of six could use it as a picnic table.
I saw CX-5 and CX-8 in Japan in the deal. Both parked next to another. I think CX-8 is amazing alternative between CX-5 and CX-9. The front is the size of the 5, the rear is much bigger. The interior is more luxuries but nothing over the board. It is as wide as CX-5 so easier to park etc. I think Mazda should research if the rest of the world would like CX-8 on their market.
Wow, the Palisade's and Telluride's combined legroom are quite impressive! And seriously, why does Mazda still refuse to more than 6 gears in its cars?
Mazda is by far the smallest of the major independent manufacturers. That means they have to invest their efforts wisely and make their components serve in multiple applications. Developing a wholly new transmission is a very, very expensive operation and full of risks. (Ask Honda among others). In the case of Mazda their 2.5L turbo's outstanding torque numbers make up for a lot of sins including fewer gears in the transmission.
No need...the tuning of their 6 is sufficient enough to not keep hunting gears vs those 8, 9 and 10 speeds...why change something when it’s not needed? Just because others do it doesn’t mean Mazda has to do it...also smaller company vs others therefore likely down to cost.
@@ztekz The torque in the Mazda turbo does compensate to some extent for the absence of more gears in terms of power delivery. But more gears, programmed appropriately, also provides benefits in terms of fuel economy. Considering that the 2.5L four banger in the CX-9 is substantially smaller than its V6 competitors, a transmission with more gears could mean better fuel economy. As it is, the Mazda's engine is not significantly more efficient than its larger competitors. Money saving is the answer to why Mazda didn't go that extra mile.
For me the CX9 - the Sorrento is compelling but I just think the styling of the CX9 puts it best in class (each to their own) and if buying a car was a completely rational decision we would probably ride on buses or use uber. I love the engine of the CX9, the automatic does its job and for me is unnoticeable - that's a good thing. I have 2 gripes......firstly, I am 6'2" and have hit my head on the raised trunk more times than i can remember and secondly, the centre console cuts in on the drivers leg which is annoying. Other than that, a magnificent motor vehicle.
I vote for the Kia Sorrento. Yes the Mazda looks better but the packaging and overall length does it for me. Kia also has a better infotainment system.
As usual a great, comprehensive, detailed review, Alex. By a significant margin the best review of the CX-9 I've seen on the web. Since I've plastered my negative comments about the CX-9 in review after review (despite the fact that I've owned four Mazdas and I like the brand), I'll skip repeating most of those remarks and limit my comment to a couple of points. As crossovers have come to dominate the entire automotive landscape the traditional categories that emerged for mainstream offerings have been "sub-compact," "compact," "midsize," and "behemoths." More recently, though, a category of "tweeners" has emerged for "Goldilock" vehicles of about 185" to 190" in length slotted above compacts (circa 180") and larger "midsize" offerings (196" to 204"). (Luxury crossovers are another kettle of fish that can also be fitted into these classes but they're distinct in a number of other ways. I'll stick to mainstream vehicles.) The "tweener" class includes some older designs such as the Outback, the Edge, the Murano, the Grand Cherokee and and the Sorento as well as some more recent designs like the Hyundai Santa Fe (188"), the Honda Passport (190"), the refreshed Nissan Rogue (185"), and the VW Tiguan (185"). The Rogue and Tiguan are often considered "compacts" but they're actually closer in size to the Ford Edge and Sorento than to most compact crossovers. And the Murano and the Grand Cherokee are slightly longer than others in the category by an inch or two and along with the Outback are more like traditional wagons than obvious SUV's. In addition, the Grand Cherokee comes in at least 31 flavors so it's difficult to pigeonhole. Otherwise, most or all share a number of important attributes. (The new Chevy Blazer is also arguably in this category but I'm not familiar enough with it to comment.) Each tweener is meant to appeal to customers who feel they need/want something larger than a compact vehicle (CR-V, Rav4, CX-5, Forester, etc.) but smaller and more maneuverable than the large midsize offerings. In almost all cases other than the KIA Sorento they're two row five passenger vehicles. The Sorento is uniquely a 3 row vehicle with about the same room in the back row as some larger midsize crossovers . (The Tiguan offers an optional third row suitable for stowing a small, bound and gagged hostage but it's difficult to consider it a three row vehicle.) In most cases, unlike vehicles in the compact segment, vehicles in the tweener group offer either a standard or optional V6 engine, most naturally aspirated. On that score the Hyundai Santa Fe is an exception with a turbo4 mill (that was an option in the KIA Sorento until 2018) as its only option, the Tiguan with a turbo4, and the Rogue with a NA 4 banger. Most tweeners have traditional geared transmissions with at least eight gears. The Subaru Outback and Nissans (Rogue and Murano) are the exceptions with CVT's. Another difference between tweeners and compacts where CVT's are the norm. OK. So back to the CX-9. In terms of overall size it's obviously in the larger midsize category. In fact, it's among the largest. It's not a "tweener" but in terms of interior room it offers no more than the Sorento. And except for the Subaru Ascent it's the only member of the larger group that offers only a 4 cylinder engine, arguably less durable than a V6 and less smooth and linear in its power delivery. Lots of other features and factors to consider but in the large midsize category it's stylish or as Alex puts it, "pretty" but has many shortcomings. And with the availability of the forthcoming new Explorer, the Telluride, and the Palisade the competition will be even tougher in the large 3 row midsize category.
Still not seeing the interior up to others in the segment. The AWD system is lacking too according to Motor Trend review. www.motortrend.com/cars/mazda/cx-9/2017/2017-mazda-cx-9-touring-awd-long-term-update-5-review/
@@normt5463 When I was shopping last year I found the interior of the CX-9's Signature trim very impressive, much like many other reviewers have claimed. I did, though, have some concerns about the durability of the materials in the cabin. An owner can control that to some extent, of course, but in a family SUV with a kid and a big dog along with my wife and me, I was skeptical about being fastidious. :)
I can honestly say we chose the Kia Sorento (AWD EX w/Touring Pkg) over the Mazda for many of the reasons you mentioned, but most importantly that the Sorento uses a V6 instead of an overworked Turbo 4 cylinder. That and personal experience with Mazda's less than stellar (aka fly-by-night) dealership network. At the EX level in the Sorento, you get all of the active safety systems and works out to slightly lower in price than the comparably equipped AWD CX-9 Touring with Premium Pkg. Throw in the better warranty and often available rebates on the Sorento makes it a better choice than the 'pretty' Mazda.
Checked Telluride out few days ago in a local car show. I immediately felt the car is way less polished than CX-9. It does look good on the picture or under fancy lightings. But under a plain lightning, it just looks like another Korean car… Inside, the cheap feeling is even more. It’s way way way underpolished than CX-9. I’m sorry that so many people are so excited about this car, but it’s just a cheap car. After I checked out this Telluride, to be honest I actually lost my interest to Palisade as well.
@@neohucore Are you comparing like trims? Also I feel like judging the Palisade by whichever Telluride model you saw is all kinds of unfair. I say we leave this one to the professionals.
The cx-9 isn't that impressive as people hype it to be either. In typical Mazda fashion , all show for looks and driving , but falls short everywhere else. The space in the cx-9 has got to be one of the worst in the class and Mazda AWD system is terrible. No v6 would immediately sway me over to the Telluride or traverse which both are MUCH more roomy. Mazda picked for over functionality and sorry to say that's not what many buyers in this segment are particularly focused on. And nice interior's won't mean a thing for soccer moms with kids that will scratch them up in a matter of months. Like I said all looks , but falls short. The cx-9 may lead in looks but the telluride will most likely be a better car where it matters.
Hi Alex, enjoy your reviews and I’m in the market for one of these but can’t even look at the Mazda as the towing capacity is 3500 lbs, worst in class. What gives as plenty of torque and the Ascent, small turbo as well, is 5000 lbs.
Thanks for the review. In the next 6 months or so, looking to purchase an SUV. I am leaning towards the Kia Sorento. Recently, test drove a Hyundai Santa Fe and liked that but think I'll go with the Sorento.
I own a 2016 CX9 Signature. I hate the driver's seat. It's ok for city driving, but I drove from Texas to Destin last year and was miserable. My hips killed me! So much that I refuse to go on another long road trip. However, I loooove how it responds to the road. Now, it's no MCS or BMW but I don't expect it to be. I do, however, expect a better-designed seat with a thigh extension. The HUD display has spoiled me and I can't imagine driving a car without it. Their navigation is ridiculous but I use Waze anyway. I paid to retrofit it with apple play which is glitchy at best. I love the exterior appearance of this car, but he is right. It's a pain to wash, let alone clay bar and wax. I've been looking at trading it in (even though it only has 29,000 miles on it) because I really want a more comfy seat.
I just traded my 2016 sorento SX for a 2019 VW atlas SEL and I love it! I loved my sorento but needed more rooms. The VW is big, confortable and look awesome.
Hi, I'm curious as some press cars are plated in two plate state(California,Texas,new Jersey ) with regular plates(not manufacturer plate), but only the rear one is attached. Did you ever get pulled over by police and do manufacturers reimburse the ticket if you are ticketed for no front plate?
Alex Su 1404B I live in California and I took the front plate off my ‘18 Mazda3 touring since it looks really good without it. I have never been pulled over for not having a front plate but I do carry it with me just in case. Just say you had to take it off to get a car wash they won’t bother to ticket you
@@andrewmendoza1578 I heard in SF and LAX they ticket you as a parking ticket. I'm in Ontario and gets pulled over around once a year, every time by Toronto Police. Its a 115 bucks Non-moving violation.
Love the CX9 Signature with the 😍gorgeous😍 interior. I’d easily take it over the MDX, Pilot, and Traverse, but I’d say it’s a draw between the CX9 Signature or the top end trims of the Telluride or Sorrento
naveenthemachine touring, I was driving 2018 CRV and I can say that it is more responsive and pretty smooth. Some time it doesn’t, but as long as you drive normally, you won’t notice. I do hate the auto start stop though, I’m not a fan of any auto start stop
On cabin noise, you state the decibels were 70.5 and give it a "B", but the Atlas had 71 decibels and received an "A". Why the discrepancy? BTW, really respect your reviews as they are one of my main sources while researching a new vehicle.
Alex can be inconsistent with his noise ratings, sometimes. According to Alex, the 2017 CX5 and the 2017 CRV both measured 70 decibels on his noise test; yet, the CX5 received an "A-" while the CRV received an "A".
I didn't hear any mention of GDI engines and how the issue of preventing carbon build-up on intake valves is done &/or how this compares with the other vehicles in the segment. In my book these reviews are incomplete without this information. Without that information, I don't know what I would pick. Also is there a towing package and what does in include? (Larger radiator, transmission cooler, ATF fluid temperature gauge, oil pressure gauge, etc.)
I watched this but as we head into 2020, new models like the Highlander are making some comparisons invalid. I like the CX9 but the cons stop me from buying.
I think you know why the durango has such a massive hood, it has to fit a 5.7 hemi or even the 6.4. This thing is purely style points. Look at the size of the tahoe vs the traverse. The bof nature and the 5.3/6.2 under the hood needs a massive hood to sit under vs the traverse and its "wimpy" v6
Alex, I noticed that you commented that the CX-9 was the slowest selling mainstream crossover in your streaming session last week. With fewer than 27,000 sales in 2019, you're right. Virtually every rival had more sales, often by a hundred thousand units or more. It's no mystery why. At 199" in length the CX-9 is among the largest vehicles in its class, even longer than the Korean twins (Telluride and Palisade) and the VW Atlas. Yet it has less overall passenger room than a KIA Sorento that's only 189" long. And if that weren't bad enough, it has less overall cargo space than a Honda CR-V. Only the Toyota Highlander has less 3rd row legroom in the midsize category. And that, after all, is a major priority for consumers who want/need 3 rows of seating. Add an aging 6 speed transmission and one of the few brands not to offer a V6 engine in a vehicle that weighs close to 2.5 tons and the CX-9's sexy looks is hardly competitive.
Just wish Subaru made an effort towards style and fun-to-driveness in one of their otherwise supremely practical and capable crossovers. Even just a token gesture in that direction. Still, I'll go with a Crosstrek or maybe a Forester. Boring, but more functional, better resale value, and probably more reliable. And you can still get a manual transmission in the Crosstrek.
I wish your scales had some deminsions. For instance at 1:40 when showing the size. Based on that linear scale it would appear the Traverse is 50% bigger vehicle than an Acadia. I find it hard to believe the vehicle is actually 50% larger overall. Or the CX-9 looks to be about 30% larger than the Highlander. I would love if you put the Smaller dimensions, maybe a midpoint and then the largest so we can see if the scale is going from 100-125 or 100-400 in scale.
The pre-refresh Sorento looked better than the current one. The dashboard in the Sorento is not as attractive as the CX9’s. But I like that the Sorento has a V6. Tough choice.
I can tell you that I have owned a Sorento SXL, top of the line with V6 and just purchased a CX-9 with the 4 banger turbo.... This CX-9 will run and hide from most V6 engines. So many people look at HP instead of torque. My Sorento made 185 ft lbs of torque at 2000 rpm. The CX-9 makes 310 at 2000 rpm. Torque moves mass! The power down low, steering and handling response... The CX-9 feels like a sport sedan instead of a 4500 lb SUV. I did a TON of research and I know I made the right choice:)
Jon Booth Thanks for sharing. I enjoy hearing from actual owners. I have come back to this review because I have been considering trading up to this SUV. So your feedback is very much appreciated. Enjoy yours!
Sorento. I feel the elongated hood Mazda remains wedded to is from a past century and not attractive. I like their overall restrained design, though. But more important than looks is the longevity of KIA/Hyundai product in my experience. My 2011 Sonata is an excellent drive still at 289k miles.
Paddle shifters on an SUV/CUV is like wireless charging on a smartphone. It’s a nice feature to have but it’ll be hardly used and isn’t worth the extra cost.
Very nice interior, especially the dashboard (more traditional design - which is great!!).. The dashboard looks fantastic. I like a quiet ride, smooth comfortable ride. And I like tall vehicle that sits up high (for good safe visibility).... But, unfortunately, the firm ride is a deal deal breaker for me..
Has Mazda fixed its quality problems with paint peeling off CX-9 hoods? Two points for long-term cost of ownership. First, HUDs that project onto windshields generally require special windshield coatings and your replacement cost may be 50-100% higher. Second, 310 lb-ft of turbo torque (rapid-onset at low RPMs) will eat the front tires, especially with the stock eco compound and 255s are not cheap (and cheap ones will get eaten even faster).
Your probably right on the windshield but that is the case with all the modern cars that have electronics/radar etc involved there. The day's of safelite showing up at your house and having a guy slap an aftermarket piece of glass on your car in 20 minutes are pretty much over. That's why I carry a no deductible on my comprehensive insurance because living in a rural area with tons of gravel trucks its not a question of "if" you will be replacing the windshield but how many times your going to replace it. It took my local glass guy 3 weeks to get an OEM replacement for my CX-5 and he mentioned it was not cheap. As far as the front tire wear goes you would have be stomping on it constantly to cause that kind of premature wear and doing brake torques and never rotate them.The OEM tires are not great ( Falkens) and they will probably only last 20k miles but I've got 10k on my CX-9 with no signs of extreme or uneven tire wear. Don't know about the paint peeling on the hoods. Hope not because I really like the car.
He missed something.. With Apple/Android auto play you can use the commander switch to operate all aspects and functions while other manufactures you have to touch the screen period making driving a lil more work..also the CX9 comes in AWD and they have G Vectoring.. sooooo seems to me he did not show the true version of a CX9..
Alex, you are right - a lot of content for base FWD 32K model. BUT... you not going to find one. Even if you do find FWD, it will have MSRP of ~36K because they automatically add on some packages
2:38. Reminds you of what infinity might make? Yea, if Mazda made cheap cvt junk. Mazda is miles ahead in quality. Nissan/infinity are one of the worst vehicles you can get hands down
Funny most people say they are underrated. They make very good vehicles with a lot of thoughtful engineering and pretty reliable as well. They don't sell as well because people are brand blind and don't take the time to look beyond the obvious first 4 or 5 choices. It's what keeps the big 3 in business..
@@justinfontaine5539 not sure what year you but what luster the CX-9 had is getting tarnished. "Overall, though, the Mazda CX-9 no longer feels like an absolute winner in its competitive set. It's not that comfortable, it lacks cargo space, it doesn't tow that much and even Apple CarPlay and Android Auto aren't enough to mask its outdated infotainment tech. At this point in its life cycle, the 2019 Mazda CX-9 is beginning to have to rely on its lovely design and pleasing driving dynamics, but I no longer think that's enough for me to recommend it to most shoppers." www.cnet.com/roadshow/reviews/2019-mazda-cx-9-review/
C'mon Mazda! A 6 speed 4 pot in a CX-9?? I'd hate to think how this thing sounds and feels fully loaded with 7 passengers going uphill trying to overtake... But have to agree with you, that end profile shot of the CX-9 looks absolutely stunning. You could probably fit a V12 under that long hood too...!
Um, CX-9 has the most torque in class (other than V8 Durango and twin turbo V6 Explorer). Torque is what gets the job done. HP is for high speed. I have a CX-9 that has been fully loaded and it moves effortlessly. It's much more responsive than all the V6's I compared it to when shopping.
I have a 2011 CX9 that I bought new and it has 95,000 miles on it. It still dives, rides and even smells new. It has never spent the night indoors and the paint looks factory fresh. I imagine the new ones are even better.
This will be my first Mazda SUV now Alex.
just a slight info change - 3:44 the GT and Signature trims come with 20" wheels but as you mentioned, still in the 255 mm width.
Wa, looks alone, wins over my heart. Loads better than all German SUVs. Impressed with how far Mazda has improved its CX9 from last gen. Great review Alex.
This is the best option in the 3 row crossover section for attraction & practicality.it is super attractive & after much comparison between the immediate competition, I would purchase the top trim with no hesitation.
7:33 "Of course if you want the most third row room in America, you really ought to be looking at a minivan" - This.
That's certainly true. But it doesn't mean that (a) a third row of seats in a crossover is useless or (b) third seats in crossovers are all equally accommodating. As Alex notes, we don't use the third row of seats in our Sorento more than 10% of the time, if that. But when we have to chauffeur a gaggle of teenage girls around town or need to carry six or more passengers to a local event when the alternative is to take two vehicles, it's a very useful feature. If one needs to transport more than five passengers AND their gear on a trip, a large crossover or minivan is the way to go. But we've literally never faced that challenge.
If max third row space is a must and hate minivans, then the VW Atlas is your ride.
The KIA Telluride is another viable option. The fly in the ointment at this time is the availability of the Telluride and KIA dealers' practice of adding "market adjustment" stickers to the MSRP, especially for top trim models.
I have 3 kids and my oldest son (7) loves being in the back and having privacy. I think 3rd rows are just for kids, not adults.
I'm biased, I have too much a respect for Mazda, but it is exciting to see so many enthusiastic readers of the range of mazda sedan hb and CX crossovers
You're one of the best reviewers on the net. Exhaustive detail, but lots of captions outlining what you're covering, so viewers can skip what they don't care about, straight to what they do. Really, no other reviewers need to be seen, you cover everything, everytime. Kudos for how much work you put into these reviews.
Year and a half ago i was going for a new family car, after trying, santa fe , sorrento, pilot , durango , explorer .... etc all of them in the same price segment , i was disappointed with all of them. I'm one of those persons that likes to drive , to have a family trip quite often. An important fact on that point is that i live in Peru, a country with lots of different kind of roads , mountain roads , icy roads , desert like high temperature roads and specially high altitude roads, 17000 feet high in some places.
After trying all of these options, feeling disappointed and seeing that non of these entries were designed for the driver and just to be haulers i received a call from a rep from mazda so i could have a day test driving the cx9 that came to Peru as a 2018 model. i got to say it took me 5 minutes to make up my mind and bouthg the mazda immediately. As soon as i got it my family and i went on a trip that was intended to cross the Andes, a mountain road 16000 feet high with enough curves to make u smile for a month, there is no better suv than the mazda for this kind of trip , handling is amazing for the size and weight, plus the turbo engine will better any non turbo suv hands down, the only suvs that where at the same pace as the mazda in this trip where q7s or mercedes . i can remember one sentence said by my daughter while we were in this mountain road , " dad this feels like you car but much much comfy " ( my other car is an audi s3) .
of course, the pilot has much more space, as well as the durango the traverse or the explorer but none of them drive well nor are compatible to where i live. the interior in another league as well compared to this segment , the only flaws that i can feel in this car are , disc brakes are to little in the front which makes then to over heat while driving down the mountain road at high speeds and there is a bit of torque steer while driving it out of the sport mode. regarding the 6 speed auto box it was perfect for the trip , in any moment it needed to lower the gear, this because of the 321 pounds of torque at 2000 rpm... in my experience there is no better suv than the cx9 on this segment.
This company is underrated, . i owned a kompressor and i have recently bought the signature trim of the mazda CX-9 , and i tell .. the benz has nothing over this vehicle. Thats all
Marco Ruiz you just sold me on the CX-9. I need a drivers car for road trips and in town driving with my wife and two teenage girls.
This will be my wife’s ride. My work car is a Volvo C-30 Turbo and fun car is a 2011 Shelby GT500 @600hp.
Now I just gotta find a Soul Red AWD grand Touring. In my area.
How much stock do you own in the Mazda company. P/S just bough a cx9 grand touring.
Explorer is better
Maybe try using the manual mode to force it to use the right gear going downhill so its does not have to use the brakes too much.
One feature you forgot to mention, Alex, is that Mazda's adaptive cruise control works well in stop and go traffic. When I compared mid-sized cross overs last year, stop and go adaptive cruise control was not available in many other brands.
As for driving experience, the CX-9 is almost as good as some very well designed sports cars I've driven in the past.
Thanks for for such thorough review. Very informative.
Yep, 2019 Pilot and Highlander adaptive cruise control turns off below about 20 mph. Although the new 2020 Highlander is supposed to finally have adaptive cruise down to 0.
Agreed - having good adaptive cruise is amazing.
Have a Signature, Love everything about it, except drivers seat adjustability. Spot on review---thanks!!!
What do you think of the Bose? I have a Genesis G80 with the Lexicon now that I love, don't really want to sell, but a growing family may size me out of the sedan and into an SUV. Thinking this or a used mdx with the els which I know is good. Just haven't had enough time with Bose. Both seem to offer up something somwwhat close to ride, quiet cabin, and build quality of my Genesis
I'm a Honda & Subaru fan. I have never been interested in the Korean brands until now. I'm going to give KIA, Hyundai, and Genesis a thorough look with my next purchase.
I've owned Toyota, Subaru and Hyundai products. Must say that the Korean company is still not up to par as far as long term quality and fit & finishes.
I usually stick with Japanese brands mostly Hondas and Mazdas the Koreans will give you more for your money but I'm still nervous about the reliability and recalls.
I've posted this before, but since you put so much emphasis on combined legroom I thought I'd post this question again:
How can we trust the numbers? I feel like the combined legroom numbers are misleading:
2019 BMW 5-series: 77.9"
2019 Altima: 79"
2018 Kia Soul: 80"
2019 Kia K900: 82.3"
2018 Corolla: 83.7"
Corolla more legroom than K900...hmmm, I think not. Soul more than Altima and 5-series? Nope!
I've driven both. I'm 6'2" 220lbs. I have no issues on the comfort in any of the front 2 row of seats. The third row doesn't mater to me because that is just for kids. Bumper to bumper, the CX-9 is a much better looking vehicle than the Sorento and all the others in this segment. There is more bells, whistles, safety performance on the $40K package (GT) of the CX-9 than the Sorento. Even if the Sorento has more leg, head and storage room than the CX-9, the few extra inches is not going to make up for what the CX-9 offers for that price.
My wife drives a 2016 CX-9 Signature, one of the first ones, now with almost 50000 miles. To me it still seems to be the best handling 3-row SUV in this price segment. It surprises me each time I drive it on a twisty road. However imo I'd prefer a naturally aspirated V6. My experience is there isn't much difference in real world fuel economy and V6's seem to deliver smoother power. Also wish the CX-9 had 5000 lbs of towing capacity instead of 3500.
We have one and as much as I like power and HP I think the way they set up this engine/transmission is brilliant. It pulls like a little diesel. Lots of low and mid range pulling power. It's a little rougher than a V6 but not bad unless your wringing it out.
How has yours performed after 50k miles? Any issues? if this engine/car turns out to be long term reliable then this car is by far the best value in the segment. The fact that it even gets compared to an MDX says it all. I don't see the Honda Pilot compared to an MDX.
What do you think of the Bose? I have a Genesis G80 with the Lexicon now that I love, don't really want to sell, but a growing family may size me out of the sedan and into an SUV. Thinking this or a used mdx with the els which I know is good. Just haven't had enough time with Bose. Both seem to offer up something somwwhat close to ride, quiet cabin, and build quality of my Genesis
Andrew Silver Your comment about fuel economy and a V6 is spot on.
@@aaronbooth9222 The Bose sound system is very good but a bit basey. The Signature has a subwoofer. I turn it down. The new one comes with Apple Car Play and Android Auto. You can upgrade the older models for $450, or hack it in yourself - there's a whole world of neat upgrades you can do to the infotainment at mazdatweaks.com/. Note that on the newer models it requires a bit more work to get into the system the first time - the older models are initially easier to access. During a warranty repair, Mazda updated our whole software system from 2016 to the 2018 load which improved the radar cruise control and smart brake support, but it also took away some HUD features for some reason.
@@justinfontaine5539 The engine has performed well. However we had the fuel pump replaced at only 34800 miles under warranty. It took them a while to figure it out and that's when they updated the software from 2016 to 18 as part of the diagnosis - but it was the fuel pump. Long term I worry a bit about having a turbo, but we'll see. We typically keep our cars 10 years 150k miles. I changed the spark plugs myself at 40000 miles - couldn't find a video so I made one th-cam.com/video/ln-oKZi9woQ/w-d-xo.html. I also did one on changing the cabin air filter th-cam.com/video/tUoivDtIKmU/w-d-xo.html. Hope this helps.
alex, I have been watching your videos for years, and based on your video I bought a CX-9 2 years ago. So far it is great, quality is even better than my Infiniti Q50 red sport. Only downsides are missing some features I want because my model is 2016 signature which lacks 360 camera and heated steering wheel and heated second raw and remote start. Other than that everything has been prefect!
Mega1988You The 360 camera in the CX9 is poultry at best. I’ve seen far better quality cameras from Toyota, like the Highlander, Avalon, or the Camry.
@@naveenthemachine poultry? it's chicken? the word you're looking for is "paltry". don't mind me, i'm just teasing you. autocorrect sucks sometimes. have a good one.
Frank Marzegliano lol sorry about that. Damn autocorrect 🤬
@@naveenthemachine no worries, i just like busting balls too, lol
Since when did Mazda start putting Remote Start in their vehicles? I thought it was optional with a separate key fob
Just bought mine!!! I love this car!
When you say kia sorento is more reliable, you're talking it's more reliable than this version of cx9? What are the problems that make cx 9 less reliable? Thanks for the informative review.
All of that exterior chrome is a bit much. That said, great looking vehicle. Mazda posted one of their best sales figures ever in 2018 mostly propped up by the CX line (notably the CX5). Hopefully the brand will see an even better year in 2019. Only owned one Mazda, old '91 626 with a busted transmission, but I'm still a big fan of the brand. Especially since the Kodo design revolution.
Tony P A couple pieces of chrome on the front and back of his review unit are dealer added accessories, so you can get it with less chrome.
I would choose the Toyota Highlander because of the reliability and resale value.
Highlander Hybrid for me. Let's see how 'pretty' the new 2020 Highlander looks.
Right Lane Hog yup, that’s the ultimate goal!
Yes u should anyway those are for boring people and ur one of them
veneel dsouza Don’t be fooled by youtubers, all these crossovers drive like crossover...I call BS on “handling”....I hv driven them all!
@@rightlanehog3151 way too old in the segment as Highlander is way past due for redesign. But once redesigned you won't be able to afford it.
Well, I'm currently shopping for a SUV. I like the Kia Telluride EX quite a bit but they're very popular, right now and I've got the Sorento and Mazda CX-9 as my backups. The Sorento and CX-9 are very close and I'll have to drive both to really decide.
Excellent review! I bought a 2020 CX 9 for my wife and she loves it. The cockpit is a really nice place to spend time. The interior is every bit as good as a BMW or Mercedes. My wife is just at 5 feet tall, where I am 6' 1'' and I find the drivers area a little cramped especially my right knee where it hits the center console. I also agree that this vehicle could benefit from paddle shifters. I have them in my 2020 Outback, and I think they are really out of place in that vehicle, but would work well with the CX 9. I also think the CX 9 handles really well, but the ride is a little rough as you pointed out. We also got an amazing deal since we traded in our 2016 CX 9 and got Mazda loyalty discount as well as a veteran's rebate, so we got an amazing deal. The real issue with the CX 9, as with all Mazdas (Found this out the hard way when I went to trade in my Mazda 6) is resale value. The CX 9 holds its value better than other Mazda models, but it is still a sore spot for this brand for some odd reason, because they are really great cars.
I just watched this again... In his view the CX-9 has better steering feel/handling in the base trim than the MDX (or the Pilot no shock there). He compares the ride quality to the luxury segment and gives it a "B". He feels the engine is "punchy and the transmission even with 6 gears is more engaging to drive". Fuel economy will be closer to the EPA rating of 23 combined as these guys hammer these cars much harder than your average person so that's more than competitive. Again only knocks are interior space and no pano roof. He even comments that the Infotainment is much better now.
So it looks great, drives great, rides great, handles great, is quiet, has plenty of power and is nice enough to get compared to some of the luxury options out there. And lastly it's proving to be very reliable thus far. There are some 2016's out there with 70-80k miles reporting a clean bill of health. What's not to love?
Now Justin, we both know that there are more "knocks" on the CX-9 than the lack of "interior space and no pano roof." But for a an SUV 199" in length that provides less overall cargo space than a Honda CR-V or a Subaru Forester the lack of interior space isn't exactly a nit.
I'm surprised Mazda didnt give you the signature trim. They do like to promote it.
Like Soyfan got?
@@normt5463 i guess. dont follow him.
Grand Touring has everything except the leather and wood trim interior.
@@justinfontaine5539 They charge a lot for the Nappa leather, rosewood trim and illuminated grille.
Yes and personally I don't think it's worth it and I am not in love with the interior color or the wood trim in though it's real but that's a personal choice.@@arthurbirog9516
For me in design, luxury and dynamics Mazda CX_9 is the Best. Sorento option is nice but inside is more car rental except for the info-entertain system that is the best in the market.
Old transmission but beautiful design! Thumbs up for the combined room chart comparison. Serious base-MDX alternative honestly.
Form over function. They gambled and they failed. Long length but average interior space
If people wanted a fully functional vehicles with loads of space, they would be buying a mini-van instead.
They could’ve compete neck to neck with ford, honda, toyota, etc had they ultilize the extra length.
@@tinhinnh, the long hood is one if the things that make the CX-9 so great. If I wanted a short hooded, stumpy looking vehicle, i might as well get a minivan. I got a CX-9 exactly because of how it looks and drives as well as the best interior design and materials in class.
@@Josh-179 Motor Trend longterm wasn't holding up very well at 27,000 miles as it was showing allot wear.
www.motortrend.com/cars/mazda/cx-9/2017/2017-mazda-cx-9-touring-awd-long-term-update-5-review/
They didn't fail. That's why this guy and most of the other top reviewers pick this as the top dog in this fight. Inspite of it's lack of space relative to body length ( don't care) and it's turbo 4 engine and 6 speed ( that everyone picks on) it still manages to come out on top. Drive one and you will know why. And yes it looks killer inside and out and that's important to some.
I do think Sorento and Cx-9 are the best too, though I love the new Explorer
I wish I had the faith to by a new Ford product as there are a few that I like on paper but terrible reliability issues. This new Explorer going to a rear drive could be killer but with an all new vehicle from Ford I couldn't do it.
Always loved this SUV. Had a 1st gen, 2007 😁 it's just gotten better with time
Owner of 2016 CX9 GT, i love it and so does my family/friends. I think they should work on a lot of things. I would love a “CX-10” FULL! SUV something with a V6 or V8. PANO roof would be nice.
i would pick the highlander hybrid - although it would be approximately $4 to $6K more expensive depending on the trim. But if i was looking at non-hybrid 3 row SUV's - i would pick either the Subaru Ascent or the Mazda CX9
I dunno, I’m biased since I own a 2018 CX-9 GT, but I can’t get on board with the “C” ride rating. The ride is certainly not pillow soft, but there is no way it’s C-rating bumpy. I think one of the reasons this CUV rates so highly in general is that it handles like a Mazda6 without a punishing ride. Having cross shopped all of its competitors, I’d say give the ride a “B.”
I have the same generation model with the largest tires and the ride is butter smooth, I'd give it an A really
All the people bringing up Korean manufacturers are going to regret it long term. Japanese car brands are way better in the long run than Korean, even if the Korean brands have more bells and whistles. I am looking at the Mazda, Honda, and Acura the hardest for my next SUV purchase. My current Honda Pilot has almost 200,000 trouble free miles on it, and would keep going if my daughter hadn’t claimed it. I don’t see a Kia or Hyundai going 200,000 miles and having no issues.
I drove it over the weekend I wish the steering wheel would stiffen up a lil in sport mode but handle good in down hill an curvy road at high speeds
aren't the wheels on 20inch rims standard?...u said 18 inch in the video
Definitely, the best looking SUV on the market. But I've read many complains about CX-5 and 9 about their far from perfect factory paintjob and rust problems. Can anyone clarify?
More lacking a good awd and poor rear AC cooling.
My wife drives a cx5 she had no problems with her previous 2016 model but got a great trade-in deal she went on and got another for 2018 and it looks more luxurious than the previous model.
@@tragic504 I hope so. Edmund's longterm CX-5 is lacking in a few areas.
www.edmunds.com/mazda/cx-5/2018/long-term-road-test/2018-mazda-cx-5-monthly-update-for-january-2019.html
What are you talking about? It gave them no problems and other than not having the more powerful turbo they loved it.@@normt5463
@@justinfontaine5539 read every update and it is not the first choice.
Drove one a year ago , was very impressed from a driving perspective and beautiful interior , but there could be some improvements for the next gen. It would be nice to see Mazda implement a v6 to their family , considering that's the go to choice for many of the competitors. The 3 Rd row for me is about as useful as a Sorento (Not very). Besides a few gripes , beautiful car.
Why introduce a engine that will soon faze out due to federal emission requirements? It would be a bad investment.
Its odd to me that the biggest knock on the CX-9 is the fact that is has a turbo 4. ( that and space) There are dozens of others both in this specific segment and others and extending into the luxury brands with 4 cylinder motors. For instance Volvo XC-90 2.0 has a turbo 4with the same 250 hp and far less torque. So is that a bad car? Audi sells a 2.0 turbo 4 in its flagship SUV the Q7 and it's the same size as a CX-9? I know it's not directly competing with the RDX and it's 300 lbs lighter but there's another high performance turbo 4 in there. The manufactures are going to have to go down in cylinders not up. And some of the V6's in these vehicles have been around for many years and they are still being used because it's cheaper than replacing them. I bet Toyota puts the 6 cylinder same engine and gear box in it's "all new" Highlander. Why? Money. And even with 6 cylinders and 2 more gears that powertrain ain't all that great.
Alex, I honestly think you are the best car reviewer. You are so thorough with all your reviews and make excellent comparison between vehicles. Giving actual useful space rather than exterior dimension. I know most people don't care but I'm one of those people who careful gimmicks. Such as ambient lighting!! Cx9 had ambient lighting and grill that lights up at night. I hope I'm your future videos you could point those parts out and show the viewers. Thanks!
Captain's chairs are available on some 2020 CX9s. I'd like to know if the captain's chairs can slide forward (for access to third row) with a child seat installed.
They are super super nice, but after looking at the Telluride, and building a sx on their website, you get a lot for your money there and they're absolutely gorgeous I think I'd go with the Kia!!
Already made our choice and leased a CX-9 Signature. Love the premium features and handling for a mainstream price. Averaging 24mpg by staying within the speed limit. Also want to point out that the Highlander’s combined legroom numbers did not compare to the Mazda’s actual space, particularly in the third row, when we test drove it. I can’t explain it but the Toyota’s 3rd row is not fit for anyone with legs while the CX-9 is fine for short rides. We also test drove the Subaru Ascent but, in spite of better practicality, a higher price, less premium features and a truly awful steering feel drove us back to the Mazda dealership.
What do you think of the Bose? I have a Genesis G80 with the Lexicon now that I love, don't really want to sell, but a growing family may size me out of the sedan and into an SUV. Thinking this or a used mdx with the els which I know is good. Just haven't had enough time with Bose. Both seem to offer up something somwwhat close to ride, quiet cabin, and build quality of my Genesis
Aaron Booth not really an audiophile myself but my wife thinks it’s great.
Mazda, my favorite auto brand ❤❤❤
This car is dam awesome...Looks sick.. The rear and front end are just perfect..It not an busy back end as you state where cleaning is an issue.. not at all.. . I push it hard and it responds like a beast. Anymore would cost $20 000 more and be entering the german car market. This is not your Kia or Hyundai.
Looks nice, but Telluride and Palisade are best in class now imo.
You might be right but until they are on the road for at least a year we won't know anything.
@@justinfontaine5539 The Telluride is already on sale and at dealers...
Mazda still does not offer a V6 option or a 8 speed transmission. The 4 cylinder engine in the cx9 is horribly complicated because of its head design and the direct injection still has the fuel and oil deposit problem on the valves. Mazda should be ashamed to only offer a 4 cylinder in this 4000+ lb vehicle. That’s why it’s only rated to tow 3500 lbs. As a mechanic I can tell you that working on Mazda’s 2.5 turbo is a nightmare. An expensive one if it’s out of warranty.
What I hate about the Mazda is that there is no 1 touch window roll up or down for the back windows. Also, if you lock the windows, the driver can only move the driver window.
Mazda is the complete brand for me. If I had the money and space to keep all cars, my drive way would be filled with all Mazda cars- Comoact hatch 3, mid size Mazda6, compact SUV cx5, a cx9 and a Miata.
What ruins it for me buying this is its not big enough for my family of 6 and its 227 and 310 of torque is not powerful enough for this big vehicle. A CX5 makes more sense. 300hp needs to be a start. They should also consider a V6. These entries don't offer much options like the competition either. So I would consider Mazda if they would add those features. Plus I wish auto manufacturers would offer a rear liftgate window opening.
Another stellar review on the CX-9. Now the nit picks are down to drivers seat comfort, ( Not a problem for me) no pano roof ( don't want one) and transmission not having enough gears. (and yet the honda 9 speed is all their products is garbage according to Alex here) The biggest beef is the lack of interior room relative to exterior dimensions. I would think that most people who buy this car know that going in and they have eliminated it as a negative factor. They might not have 3 kids and don't/won't use the 3rd row ( which is as usable as most of the others realistically).
Bottom line if you want a premium feeling/driving SUV that has some style and flair and don't need 85 cubic feet of total cargo area this is what you want. The Kia Sorento is a more practical choice for sure but not everyone needs to go that route.
Dont know why so many people have trouble understanding this. We love ours, have always had enough room, rarely need the third row and the vehicle looks, feels and drives like a much more expensive vehicle.
We've had this "discussion" a number of times, Justin. In most cases focusing on the CX-9 versus the Sorento. We don't have to rehash all the points again so I'll stick to just a couple of observations. My family consists of my wife, myself, our 14 y/o daughter and a big dog. Only one kid, not three. And at least half the time, we put the entire family in my daily driver, a GTI.
We do use the third row of seats in our Sorento on occasion and when we do, it's "more usable" than the CX-9's, especially in terms of legroom. The 29.7" of legroom in the Mazda is two inches less than the Sorento; it's even less than the 30" in a Mustang backseat. Ever tried to sit in a Mustang backseat? I would never claim the Sorento's third row is generous. If third row room was important to us, we'd have gone with a VW Atlas that has two inches more legroom than the Sorento. And even the Atlas isn't as large as the CX-9.
Nor do we need "85 cubic feet of cargo space." The slightly greater overall cargo capacity in the Sorento is enough for our needs and the CX-9's would suffice as well. But the entire interior of the Sorento is wrapped in a skin that's nearly a foot less in length than the Mazda. It's less a question of "practicality" than preferring a style that projects an efficient, right sized vehicle. For us, that says "style and flair."
In short, we didn't choose the Sorento because it was the more "practical choice;" we rejected the CX-9 because it seemed to us to represent a bloated, if "pretty" vehicle that didn't justify its size. Had we been considering a compact crossover, we would have looked seriously at the Mazda CX-5. It has "style and flair," too. While it sacrifices considerable interior space for its looks, as well, at 179" long it's roughly equivalent or even more compact than its competition. And it has virtually all the other pluses in terms of a "premium feeling/driving SUV." More so, in fact than the CX-9. If one doesn't need or want a third row of seats and doesn't need much more cargo space than a VW Golf, it strikes me as an appealing choice.
I hear you. It's a good debate. They are both nice cars and both at the top of his "list" so there is little debate that they are both good. We actually like that the CX-9 is a bigger vehicle dimensionally. We live mostly in a rural area and every other vehicle is either a full size pick up or a full size gravel truck so having a bigger vehicle just feels safer. That 115 inch wheel base is part of what gives this vehicle such a composed, stable ride, luxury like ride. It's why I traded in the 2016 CX-5 ( awesome car also). It just felt a little too small and un-refined. The CX-9 fix's most of the few things the CX-5 wasn't. ( new CX-5 has lousy cargo space too but in that car it really matters.)
I still believe that the while the Sorento is the logical perhaps smarter choice on paper ( price being equal) it does not match the CX-9 in terms of pure driving dynamics, driving feel, interior fit and finish, and exterior styling. Even the "experts" agree on those points. I have been watching KIA grow as a company and I may get around to owning one one day. That Telluride for the same money as the Sorento has my attention. @@stephenhendricks103
I like it but are those fog lights functional??? So tiny
I have this vehicle and can attest that the fog lights are excellent
In your 2016 cx9 review you have given ride as A in initial test and B in detailed test for 2019 you have given it C where as in 2019 suspension was retuned to make it softer. Why is there so much variance in ride. BtW detailed review overall. Have shortlisted the cx9 signature 2020 model.
that engine in a MX-5 would be killer!
"Killer" is probably an accurate description. The weight, alone, would destroy the overall driving dynamics of the MX-5. Add to that the fact that the huge exhaust manifold in Mazda's turbo 4 would require the distance from the A pillar to the front bumper would have to be extended to such a degree that a family of six could use it as a picnic table.
The base Sport trim also doesn't have carplay/android auto, so when compared to other makers' base trim, need to keep that in mind
I saw CX-5 and CX-8 in Japan in the deal. Both parked next to another. I think CX-8 is amazing alternative between CX-5 and CX-9. The front is the size of the 5, the rear is much bigger. The interior is more luxuries but nothing over the board. It is as wide as CX-5 so easier to park etc. I think Mazda should research if the rest of the world would like CX-8 on their market.
Or revive the CX7 nameplate. Or make a 5 seater CX9.
The Signature rolls on 20" wheels/tires and they are an option on the GT model.
Canucker Eh! No.
Wow, the Palisade's and Telluride's combined legroom are quite impressive!
And seriously, why does Mazda still refuse to more than 6 gears in its cars?
I am wondering the same thing too... Maybe cost?
American Roads Because 6 is enough.
Mazda is by far the smallest of the major independent manufacturers. That means they have to invest their efforts wisely and make their components serve in multiple applications. Developing a wholly new transmission is a very, very expensive operation and full of risks. (Ask Honda among others). In the case of Mazda their 2.5L turbo's outstanding torque numbers make up for a lot of sins including fewer gears in the transmission.
No need...the tuning of their 6 is sufficient enough to not keep hunting gears vs those 8, 9 and 10 speeds...why change something when it’s not needed? Just because others do it doesn’t mean Mazda has to do it...also smaller company vs others therefore likely down to cost.
@@ztekz The torque in the Mazda turbo does compensate to some extent for the absence of more gears in terms of power delivery. But more gears, programmed appropriately, also provides benefits in terms of fuel economy. Considering that the 2.5L four banger in the CX-9 is substantially smaller than its V6 competitors, a transmission with more gears could mean better fuel economy. As it is, the Mazda's engine is not significantly more efficient than its larger competitors. Money saving is the answer to why Mazda didn't go that extra mile.
For me the CX9 - the Sorrento is compelling but I just think the styling of the CX9 puts it best in class (each to their own) and if buying a car was a completely rational decision we would probably ride on buses or use uber. I love the engine of the CX9, the automatic does its job and for me is unnoticeable - that's a good thing. I have 2 gripes......firstly, I am 6'2" and have hit my head on the raised trunk more times than i can remember and secondly, the centre console cuts in on the drivers leg which is annoying. Other than that, a magnificent motor vehicle.
I vote for the Kia Sorrento. Yes the Mazda looks better but the packaging and overall length does it for me. Kia also has a better infotainment system.
I agree with you on all points but try taking one for a test drive.
I think with the addition of the carplay/android feature the infotainment is as good as most.
Korean vs Japanese....I'll take Japanese, thank you.
As usual a great, comprehensive, detailed review, Alex. By a significant margin the best review of the CX-9 I've seen on the web. Since I've plastered my negative comments about the CX-9 in review after review (despite the fact that I've owned four Mazdas and I like the brand), I'll skip repeating most of those remarks and limit my comment to a couple of points.
As crossovers have come to dominate the entire automotive landscape the traditional categories that emerged for mainstream offerings have been "sub-compact," "compact," "midsize," and "behemoths." More recently, though, a category of "tweeners" has emerged for "Goldilock" vehicles of about 185" to 190" in length slotted above compacts (circa 180") and larger "midsize" offerings (196" to 204"). (Luxury crossovers are another kettle of fish that can also be fitted into these classes but they're distinct in a number of other ways. I'll stick to mainstream vehicles.)
The "tweener" class includes some older designs such as the Outback, the Edge, the Murano, the Grand Cherokee and and the Sorento as well as some more recent designs like the Hyundai Santa Fe (188"), the Honda Passport (190"), the refreshed Nissan Rogue (185"), and the VW Tiguan (185"). The Rogue and Tiguan are often considered "compacts" but they're actually closer in size to the Ford Edge and Sorento than to most compact crossovers. And the Murano and the Grand Cherokee are slightly longer than others in the category by an inch or two and along with the Outback are more like traditional wagons than obvious SUV's. In addition, the Grand Cherokee comes in at least 31 flavors so it's difficult to pigeonhole. Otherwise, most or all share a number of important attributes. (The new Chevy Blazer is also arguably in this category but I'm not familiar enough with it to comment.)
Each tweener is meant to appeal to customers who feel they need/want something larger than a compact vehicle (CR-V, Rav4, CX-5, Forester, etc.) but smaller and more maneuverable than the large midsize offerings. In almost all cases other than the KIA Sorento they're two row five passenger vehicles. The Sorento is uniquely a 3 row vehicle with about the same room in the back row as some larger midsize crossovers . (The Tiguan offers an optional third row suitable for stowing a small, bound and gagged hostage but it's difficult to consider it a three row vehicle.)
In most cases, unlike vehicles in the compact segment, vehicles in the tweener group offer either a standard or optional V6 engine, most naturally aspirated. On that score the Hyundai Santa Fe is an exception with a turbo4 mill (that was an option in the KIA Sorento until 2018) as its only option, the Tiguan with a turbo4, and the Rogue with a NA 4 banger. Most tweeners have traditional geared transmissions with at least eight gears. The Subaru Outback and Nissans (Rogue and Murano) are the exceptions with CVT's. Another difference between tweeners and compacts where CVT's are the norm.
OK. So back to the CX-9. In terms of overall size it's obviously in the larger midsize category. In fact, it's among the largest. It's not a "tweener" but in terms of interior room it offers no more than the Sorento. And except for the Subaru Ascent it's the only member of the larger group that offers only a 4 cylinder engine, arguably less durable than a V6 and less smooth and linear in its power delivery. Lots of other features and factors to consider but in the large midsize category it's stylish or as Alex puts it, "pretty" but has many shortcomings. And with the availability of the forthcoming new Explorer, the Telluride, and the Palisade the competition will be even tougher in the large 3 row midsize category.
Still not seeing the interior up to others in the segment. The AWD system is lacking too according to Motor Trend review.
www.motortrend.com/cars/mazda/cx-9/2017/2017-mazda-cx-9-touring-awd-long-term-update-5-review/
@@normt5463 When I was shopping last year I found the interior of the CX-9's Signature trim very impressive, much like many other reviewers have claimed. I did, though, have some concerns about the durability of the materials in the cabin. An owner can control that to some extent, of course, but in a family SUV with a kid and a big dog along with my wife and me, I was skeptical about being fastidious. :)
@@stephenhendricks103 I sat in a CX-9 at the autoshow. That flexing map pocket is not good!
I can honestly say we chose the Kia Sorento (AWD EX w/Touring Pkg) over the Mazda for many of the reasons you mentioned, but most importantly that the Sorento uses a V6 instead of an overworked Turbo 4 cylinder. That and personal experience with Mazda's less than stellar (aka fly-by-night) dealership network. At the EX level in the Sorento, you get all of the active safety systems and works out to slightly lower in price than the comparably equipped AWD CX-9 Touring with Premium Pkg. Throw in the better warranty and often available rebates on the Sorento makes it a better choice than the 'pretty' Mazda.
We have our second Sorento SX-L for many of the same reasons.
Looking forward to the full Telluride review! Also, please compare it to the Ascent when the time comes!
Checked Telluride out few days ago in a local car show. I immediately felt the car is way less polished than CX-9. It does look good on the picture or under fancy lightings. But under a plain lightning, it just looks like another Korean car… Inside, the cheap feeling is even more. It’s way way way underpolished than CX-9. I’m sorry that so many people are so excited about this car, but it’s just a cheap car. After I checked out this Telluride, to be honest I actually lost my interest to Palisade as well.
@@neohucore Are you comparing like trims? Also I feel like judging the Palisade by whichever Telluride model you saw is all kinds of unfair. I say we leave this one to the professionals.
Tonezorz Telluride is on sale already. Why don’t you go see one? It’s so different between seeing it on a screen vs sitting in.
The cx-9 isn't that impressive as people hype it to be either. In typical Mazda fashion , all show for looks and driving , but falls short everywhere else. The space in the cx-9 has got to be one of the worst in the class and Mazda AWD system is terrible. No v6 would immediately sway me over to the Telluride or traverse which both are MUCH more roomy.
Mazda picked for over functionality and sorry to say that's not what many buyers in this segment are particularly focused on. And nice interior's won't mean a thing for soccer moms with kids that will scratch them up in a matter of months. Like I said all looks , but falls short. The cx-9 may lead in looks but the telluride will most likely be a better car where it matters.
J M V sport Sounds like what you really need is a minivan… :)
Hi Alex, enjoy your reviews and I’m in the market for one of these but can’t even look at the Mazda as the towing capacity is 3500 lbs, worst in class. What gives as plenty of torque and the Ascent, small turbo as well, is 5000 lbs.
Yes, the 3500 limit restricts functionality.
Thanks for the review. In the next 6 months or so, looking to purchase an SUV. I am leaning towards the Kia Sorento. Recently, test drove a Hyundai Santa Fe and liked that but think I'll go with the Sorento.
Another great video!
Thanks Alex.
Keep doing what you do! 😊👍
I own a 2016 CX9 Signature. I hate the driver's seat. It's ok for city driving, but I drove from Texas to Destin last year and was miserable. My hips killed me! So much that I refuse to go on another long road trip. However, I loooove how it responds to the road. Now, it's no MCS or BMW but I don't expect it to be. I do, however, expect a better-designed seat with a thigh extension. The HUD display has spoiled me and I can't imagine driving a car without it. Their navigation is ridiculous but I use Waze anyway. I paid to retrofit it with apple play which is glitchy at best. I love the exterior appearance of this car, but he is right. It's a pain to wash, let alone clay bar and wax. I've been looking at trading it in (even though it only has 29,000 miles on it) because I really want a more comfy seat.
Hyndai Palisade is the new king of family SUV.
And Kia Telluride
It looks good but the purchase price from my local dealer would pauperize Mr
They deal pretty aggressively on these vehicles. I think you can get10-15% off sticker if you work it.
I just traded my 2016 sorento SX for a 2019 VW atlas SEL and I love it!
I loved my sorento but needed more rooms. The VW is big, confortable and look awesome.
CX-9 is the king
Hell no! Crappy power, no panoramic roof, weak tech etc..
I love it! This is one of my favorite Mazda car
Hi, I'm curious as some press cars are plated in two plate state(California,Texas,new Jersey ) with regular plates(not manufacturer plate), but only the rear one is attached. Did you ever get pulled over by police and do manufacturers reimburse the ticket if you are ticketed for no front plate?
Alex Su 1404B I live in California and I took the front plate off my ‘18 Mazda3 touring since it looks really good without it. I have never been pulled over for not having a front plate but I do carry it with me just in case. Just say you had to take it off to get a car wash they won’t bother to ticket you
@@andrewmendoza1578 I heard in SF and LAX they ticket you as a parking ticket. I'm in Ontario and gets pulled over around once a year, every time by Toronto Police. Its a 115 bucks Non-moving violation.
Love the CX9 Signature with the 😍gorgeous😍 interior. I’d easily take it over the MDX, Pilot, and Traverse, but I’d say it’s a draw between the CX9 Signature or the top end trims of the Telluride or Sorrento
naveenthemachine my wife did not like it, so we went with Pilot. Lol
Which trim? How is the 9 speed ZF transmission if equipped?
Don't like the infortainment display At All!!
naveenthemachine touring, I was driving 2018 CRV and I can say that it is more responsive and pretty smooth. Some time it doesn’t, but as long as you drive normally, you won’t notice. I do hate the auto start stop though, I’m not a fan of any auto start stop
One of the reasons I chose the CX-9. No stop and start. @@Kanti12311
Where is the comparison with the Subaru Ascent? Odd to miss it as the Ascent got top marks in Consumer Reports and is a direct competitor.
On cabin noise, you state the decibels were 70.5 and give it a "B", but the Atlas had 71 decibels and received an "A". Why the discrepancy? BTW, really respect your reviews as they are one of my main sources while researching a new vehicle.
Alex can be inconsistent with his noise ratings, sometimes. According to Alex, the 2017 CX5 and the 2017 CRV both measured 70 decibels on his noise test; yet, the CX5 received an "A-" while the CRV received an "A".
I didn't hear any mention of GDI engines and how the issue of preventing carbon build-up on intake valves is done &/or how this compares with the other vehicles in the segment. In my book these reviews are incomplete without this information. Without that information, I don't know what I would pick.
Also is there a towing package and what does in include? (Larger radiator, transmission cooler, ATF fluid temperature gauge, oil pressure gauge, etc.)
I watched this but as we head into 2020, new models like the Highlander are making some comparisons invalid. I like the CX9 but the cons stop me from buying.
With all that space under the hood, Mazda could put a V8 in there!
I think you know why the durango has such a massive hood, it has to fit a 5.7 hemi or even the 6.4. This thing is purely style points. Look at the size of the tahoe vs the traverse. The bof nature and the 5.3/6.2 under the hood needs a massive hood to sit under vs the traverse and its "wimpy" v6
Alex, I noticed that you commented that the CX-9 was the slowest selling mainstream crossover in your streaming session last week. With fewer than 27,000 sales in 2019, you're right. Virtually every rival had more sales, often by a hundred thousand units or more. It's no mystery why. At 199" in length the CX-9 is among the largest vehicles in its class, even longer than the Korean twins (Telluride and Palisade) and the VW Atlas. Yet it has less overall passenger room than a KIA Sorento that's only 189" long. And if that weren't bad enough, it has less overall cargo space than a Honda CR-V. Only the Toyota Highlander has less 3rd row legroom in the midsize category. And that, after all, is a major priority for consumers who want/need 3 rows of seating. Add an aging 6 speed transmission and one of the few brands not to offer a V6 engine in a vehicle that weighs close to 2.5 tons and the CX-9's sexy looks is hardly competitive.
Just wish Subaru made an effort towards style and fun-to-driveness in one of their otherwise supremely practical and capable crossovers. Even just a token gesture in that direction. Still, I'll go with a Crosstrek or maybe a Forester. Boring, but more functional, better resale value, and probably more reliable. And you can still get a manual transmission in the Crosstrek.
Love the Crosstrek too, but the Ascent is more closely related to the CX9
Why such a long hood for a 4 cylinders? Make it short move the cab forward create more leg room.
I wish your scales had some deminsions. For instance at 1:40 when showing the size. Based on that linear scale it would appear the Traverse is 50% bigger vehicle than an Acadia. I find it hard to believe the vehicle is actually 50% larger overall. Or the CX-9 looks to be about 30% larger than the Highlander. I would love if you put the Smaller dimensions, maybe a midpoint and then the largest so we can see if the scale is going from 100-125 or 100-400 in scale.
Please review the mazda 3
The pre-refresh Sorento looked better than the current one. The dashboard in the Sorento is not as attractive as the CX9’s. But I like that the Sorento has a V6. Tough choice.
I can tell you that I have owned a Sorento SXL, top of the line with V6 and just purchased a CX-9 with the 4 banger turbo.... This CX-9 will run and hide from most V6 engines. So many people look at HP instead of torque. My Sorento made 185 ft lbs of torque at 2000 rpm. The CX-9 makes 310 at 2000 rpm. Torque moves mass! The power down low, steering and handling response... The CX-9 feels like a sport sedan instead of a 4500 lb SUV. I did a TON of research and I know I made the right choice:)
Jon Booth Thanks for sharing. I enjoy hearing from actual owners. I have come back to this review because I have been considering trading up to this SUV. So your feedback is very much appreciated. Enjoy yours!
Sorento. I feel the elongated hood Mazda remains wedded to is from a past century and not attractive. I like their overall restrained design, though. But more important than looks is the longevity of KIA/Hyundai product in my experience. My 2011 Sonata is an excellent drive still at 289k miles.
CX9 looks nice and my be best of the lot currently but looking forward to Telluride review! Thanks
Paddle shifters on an SUV/CUV is like wireless charging on a smartphone. It’s a nice feature to have but it’ll be hardly used and isn’t worth the extra cost.
Very good review. Surgical you may say :) very detailed and helpful.
Very nice interior, especially the dashboard (more traditional design - which is great!!).. The dashboard looks fantastic. I like a quiet ride, smooth comfortable ride. And I like tall vehicle that sits up high (for good safe visibility).... But, unfortunately, the firm ride is a deal deal breaker for me..
Has Mazda fixed its quality problems with paint peeling off CX-9 hoods? Two points for long-term cost of ownership. First, HUDs that project onto windshields generally require special windshield coatings and your replacement cost may be 50-100% higher. Second, 310 lb-ft of turbo torque (rapid-onset at low RPMs) will eat the front tires, especially with the stock eco compound and 255s are not cheap (and cheap ones will get eaten even faster).
Your probably right on the windshield but that is the case with all the modern cars that have electronics/radar etc involved there. The day's of safelite showing up at your house and having a guy slap an aftermarket piece of glass on your car in 20 minutes are pretty much over. That's why I carry a no deductible on my comprehensive insurance because living in a rural area with tons of gravel trucks its not a question of "if" you will be replacing the windshield but how many times your going to replace it. It took my local glass guy 3 weeks to get an OEM replacement for my CX-5 and he mentioned it was not cheap.
As far as the front tire wear goes you would have be stomping on it constantly to cause that kind of premature wear and doing brake torques and never rotate them.The OEM tires are not great ( Falkens) and they will probably only last 20k miles but I've got 10k on my CX-9 with no signs of extreme or uneven tire wear.
Don't know about the paint peeling on the hoods. Hope not because I really like the car.
He missed something.. With Apple/Android auto play you can use the commander switch to operate all aspects and functions while other manufactures you have to touch the screen period making driving a lil more work..also the CX9 comes in AWD and they have G Vectoring.. sooooo seems to me he did not show the true version of a CX9..
Copyright Strike! (Klaxon horn sounds) "That's what we're here to find out." :)
Alex, you been hanging around Sofyan too much...that intro! Did you borrow his notes? Great, informative review as always otherwise, though.
Alex, you are right - a lot of content for base FWD 32K model. BUT... you not going to find one. Even if you do find FWD, it will have MSRP of ~36K because they automatically add on some packages
Stonks
2:38. Reminds you of what infinity might make? Yea, if Mazda made cheap cvt junk. Mazda is miles ahead in quality. Nissan/infinity are one of the worst vehicles you can get hands down
Well done sir!!
Honestly 7.3 secs for a car this big is pretty good, besides this is no race car, it's a family car
Mazda designs are overrated, overall, but their 6 and 3 sedans are rather sexy
Yes, overrated and lacking in many areas.
Funny most people say they are underrated. They make very good vehicles with a lot of thoughtful engineering and pretty reliable as well. They don't sell as well because people are brand blind and don't take the time to look beyond the obvious first 4 or 5 choices. It's what keeps the big 3 in business..
@@justinfontaine5539 not sure what year you but what luster the CX-9 had is getting tarnished.
"Overall, though, the Mazda CX-9 no longer feels like an absolute winner in its competitive set. It's not that comfortable, it lacks cargo space, it doesn't tow that much and even Apple CarPlay and Android Auto aren't enough to mask its outdated infotainment tech. At this point in its life cycle, the 2019 Mazda CX-9 is beginning to have to rely on its lovely design and pleasing driving dynamics, but I no longer think that's enough for me to recommend it to most shoppers."
www.cnet.com/roadshow/reviews/2019-mazda-cx-9-review/
C'mon Mazda! A 6 speed 4 pot in a CX-9?? I'd hate to think how this thing sounds and feels fully loaded with 7 passengers going uphill trying to overtake...
But have to agree with you, that end profile shot of the CX-9 looks absolutely stunning. You could probably fit a V12 under that long hood too...!
lapamful why are you trying to overtake with all that weight? The problem is you not the car lol
Um, CX-9 has the most torque in class (other than V8 Durango and twin turbo V6 Explorer). Torque is what gets the job done. HP is for high speed. I have a CX-9 that has been fully loaded and it moves effortlessly. It's much more responsive than all the V6's I compared it to when shopping.