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Mazda had such a massive jump in quality when they separated from Ford. It was really fast, too. WIthin one generation they were better than they ever were before.
@@amandeepbaa6978 No. The partnership was Ford supplied V6s to Mazda while Mazda supplied 4cyls to Ford. Those turbo 4 Mazda engines are all Mazda doing.
Later around 2016 or 17, Toyota bought a significant portion & stayed sharing tech. Mazda has only seemed to improve from there, as might be expected. A 17 Yaris iA, however, is simply a Toyota badged Mazda 2.
I have a 2014 Mazda 6 bought in 2013. Right now, I'm pushing close to 130k miles. Still have original shocks/struts and brakes. Car has been trouble-free for the entire time.
My wife's 2016 Hyundai sonata engine lost one cylinder, but it had 165000 miles when it happened. So we went back to the same dealership and got her a 2019 Mazda CX-5 and she loves it. I'm glad she got what she wanted and knowing Mazda's are super reliable we will never buy a Hyundai again.
I hydroplaned once in my CX-5 on the highway and I still can’t understand how an suv in the price range kept itself upright during the maneuvers I had to do at high speed. Absolutely love my Mazda
I wanna be the one to keep u safe Bri. As we listen to colors music, eat low carbs and keto diets and have some mind stimulating guided meditation after
@@AIGeneratedUser uh, glad you’re safe, but the car shouldn’t be hydroplaning at regular highway speeds. Especially to the point of actually losing control and spinning out.
@@jaycho6747 the Mazda CX-90 is actually nicer than a Lexus and comes with a turbo straight 6 cylinder while Toyota/Lexus is replacing their 6 cylinder with a 4 cylinder turbo
@@rapl1183 Here in Wisconsin we cannot find a car to buy. We have been trying to buy a car for 6 months. The Toyota dealers say a Camry LE is a 6 month order AND a $2.5K 'market adjustment' on top ! ! This is THE REAL WORLD !
Just purchased 23 CX5 signature turbo,went signature because we love the interior and rims,not a huge fan of turbo’s. We got rid of our 17 Hyundai Santa Fe sport,60000 miles burning oil a Quart about every 7 to 800 miles. It failed oil consumption test they said they’d replace the motor,gee,only cost me 1000 bucks plus tax. Not,no way! Got 15000 grand trade in,so…… bought what I thought was worth it,thx Scotty for the good advice. We love the car!!!
Great Choice Dave. I drive a 22 CX-5 Signature and absolutely love it. I wouldn't worry to much about the Turbo, the 2.5 Turbo has been a great engine. Just make sure you run Full Synthetic oil and use good quality fuel and you will be good
@@lazarsekulic2694 The part about good quality Fuel, I just meant to purchase your gas at a Brand name gas station, I know some gas stations in Canada where I live are known to have lower quality fuels. I run 91 Premium in mine. The 2.5 Turbo is a very fun, lively little engine. It's very torquey and you don't have to drive it hard to enjoy it
I figured this would be Scotty's commentary on Mazda going upscale. I think it's a stupid move - there are plenty of luxury car makes out there: but Mazda was the best driving value prop with plenty of luxury / features for most.
Mazda is a niche product, so having a near-luxury product is an angle that will make more money, as long as they continue to sell cars. Making Mazdas that are just variations of Subarus or Toyotas does nothing to set them apart. The upmarket push is probably smart. The CX-5 we own is much nicer than what you get at Honda for the same money, even if the Honda has more room and higher mpg. The CX-90 is a step up when you look at competitors.
@@tristana.8304 They are lusting after greater margins - it's nothing more than a cynical cash grab. I believe "in between luxury and normal" is the needle that Mazda has successfully threaded the last 10 years. Their strategy worked -- sales have increased YoY along with market share. They're tweaking it by trying to go more 'upscale'. They've stated so much and their latest lineup proves it.
Ngl a Mazda equivalent to compete against Acura TLX, Infiniti Q50, Lexus IS would be sweet Mazdas already have great interiors to compete against luxury cars, they just need to meet the performance
@scottykilmer this is our Mazda and I was happy the codes did not amount to much. I have the new wheel bearing/hub and ready to install. It isn’t that hard to do if you have the right tools. My boys still can’t believe they met you!
@@r.k862 this was our CX-9 in the video. About 6 months after the video the engine failed. There is a technical bulletin for it and can cause catastrophic failure without notice. The ford engines they used in this era are garbage. We purchased a Toyota Highlander soon after.
@@mikemill8270 thanks for letting me know. I seen people's comments on here suggesting that problems are with the cx9 upto year about 2022 that's when the engines are different. Is this true?
@@r.k862 yes, later models fixed the issue with the strain from the turbo. We ended up selling the car to my in-laws who then replaced the engine and transmission from a low mileage used engine from a newer CX-9. There were no issues that I’m aware of with the engine swap
My 626 from 91 is still going strong,never has it been any problem with it,32 yrs old🙂All my Mazdas has been flawless. More sceptic to my rav4..time will show.
P0126 code for the thermostat. It's a $400.00 part. A known problem of which the car dealers don't want to mess with. I have a 2019 CX-5 2.5 liter non turbo. The warranty is terrible. Other than that, it's a good car. Buying parts is expensive. Word of advice- Don't give any customer experience surveys if bought new from a dealership. They kept pressuring me to complete it quickly. I did, and things started going wrong with car, like reflectors falling off the vehicle. Then it's crickets out of these people. I have a small shop at home to do the repairs. I have a 2007 Ford Fusion with 330 thousand miles. A rebuilt transmission at 180 thousand miles. It cost me 3500 to fix, but I've got another 150 thousand miles out of it so far. Now thats money well spent. I just repair it and keep going.
Just rolled over 100k with a 2018 Fusion SE 1.5 Ecoboost. Regular oil changes and just did coolant flush, trans fluid, spark plugs, 4 wheel brake job new tires. Still running great. Need a detail job to clean it up. wife's driver
We just bought a new 2023 CX-9 Touring Plus. Got it at invoice price. Liking it so far. I figure it's a pretty well sorted platform at this maturity. Good to see this first year CX-9 with 130k plus miles on it still going strong.
@@zachpowell85 I don't have my paperwork in front of me, but it was somewhere in the 39K range. MSRP was 42K. 2,500 miles on the car so far, and the wife is loving it.
My 2014 impala ltz V6, 305hp. Doesnt need a turbo to tear up the engine. gets as much as 33mpg. 26-30mpg @75-80mph. 90K and zero issues. Knock on wood. Although direct injection worries me later down the road.
@mo aljo ya that's an issue when station wagons fell out of favor. They were low to the ground and not 7ft tall. Today's suvs are like driving a sheet or 2 of plywood into the wind.
My 2014 Terrain has the 3.6 - 301 hp also. My best 50 mile stretch for mpg was 36. I change the oil every 3k - 4k miles....the direct injection worries me too.
@@mudpuddle2658 I dont know why you all worry about direct injection. Diesels have been direct injected since thier inception. I can put over a million miles on a cat diesel and never touch my injectors
Just becareful and have ur mechanic check it fully, I have the coolant leaking issue which cause by engine head gasket broken with my 2016 CX9 with 53k miles, they ask 11k USD to fix and Mazda USA refused to give any assistance as they stated it’s not common issue even I have them all the complaints from other owners. It’s common issue, research online please
@laputa727 That's a crazy price could get a used motor for 4 or 5k online I'd probably go that route...installed is maybe 2k or so. Shame the turbo 2.5 isn't great cause the na 2.5 is. Oh well guess I'll skip the cx9 and go Toyota.
Love my 2021 CX-9 GT. Aside from mediocre MPG, its nearly perfect. Love all the tech and safety gear. And don't sleep on the torque. Unless you need a 3rd row that's comfortable for adults on long trips (it's fine for kids or short trips), this is the one to buy. It's so much more satisfying to drive than the bigger people movers.
I have the same color cx9. But mine is a 2021 signature w/ ivory interior. I’ve tried my best to pamper it. The suv definitely has some pep to it and feels like your driving a small sedan. My mechanic told me that in time to keep an eye on the oil level and change the oil every 5,000 miles. It has low miles for now, but I’ll def be changing the oil as I do my other cars consistently
I know ppl said they change the engine design from 2020 model, I owned 2016 with 53K miles and this happen. So i think whoever got the 2020+ model should be fine.
picked up cx-5 awd turbo, its a fun suv, handles awesome. The new car prices are up 10K for the same car since they bought it. my car new in 2021 was 32k, now the same car is 40k+ new.
Based on your reviews (& others), I just bought a 2021.5 Signature with just under 15k miles. It was orig sold new here in S FL in Dec 2021, and traded in at a local Jeep Dealer 2 mos ago. Got them down to $25k and they threw in 2 oil changes and the dealer's $2k service maintenance package. This model is selling between $28-32k in my area, so I'm satisfied with the terms.
I have been buying Mazdas for 10 years. I have 250000 miles on 2 modern Cx 9s. Test drove a Cx 90. I think Mazda will regret their decision. The CX 9 just rocks. Maybe not the best interior space, but for driving, etc....rocks.
I bought a 2018 Mazda 6 new. At about 30k, the right wheel bearing was getting noisey, no curb shots or wrecks. The Mazda dealer replaced it under warranty. I think this may be a manufacturing defect. Now at 55k and 5 years I still have no problems.
My engine on my Mazda CX9 2018 just went out. There's some kind of problem their engine is having & I ended up getting a 2023 Hyundai Santa Fe XRT. I was sad to part with my Mazda...
Scotty, you should open up a business called "Scotty's, Don't Buy that Car Until You Talk to Me!" of course all the dealerships and car salesmen will hate you, but the car buyers will love you!
These, second-generation Mazda CX-9's are very reliable and they will last for a while. Do not ever buy a first-generation GMC Acadia. Thank you very much.
This makes me think of a good question. Which do you think would last longer... the 2.5 with turbo.. or the non-turbo which unfortunately has cylinder deactivation?
Mazda use good turbos, and the engineering around them is excellent too. I did tend to get a little lead footed in the Mazda because it goes so well, but it's more about how you look after the engine and how you drive it. The transmission was excellent too.
Do good maintenance on your 2016 and up Mazda and you will have less problems, I own 3 Mazda's now 2017 and up and have not had no major issues, 2015 down when ford was in on it I will not touch !
I think new and used cars for the next 3-5 years will just be expensive. In fact I'd even say the days of a good old decent (but maybe high mileage) $5,000 cars are long gone. Now it's like $10,000 is your new "$5,000" car. I remember my first car was $2500. Drove it for 5 years (it was a mid 90's Ford Taurus) and never had to do anything major other than brakes and tires after about a year. Ran decent. They obviously had problems (like burning oil and cooling issues) but you just let it go. Keep the oil and coolant topped off and it ran great for 5 years until I sold it to get the next car).
Hey Scotty Kilmer l have a mazda cx8 2019 model fwd diesel 2.2l turbo l had the engine changed under warranty due to blown head gasket.The car had 120000km on the dash.
Crossovers really AREN’T, in my opinion, SUVs because they’re invariably built unibody, not on a truck frame. Don’t get me wrong, they’re handy, I drive a Mazda CX-5, but I’m very resistant about calling it a “truck” or an “SUV”. It really has more in common with my Ford Escort station wagon from the 90s than any truck!!
I got 2023 CX5 Carbon Edition. Its handling very well, its very quiet inside and generally nice to drive and stay inside, you can feel luxury but only thing is engine, its very load and lazy eapecially 1st gear there is no power enough at all but at least reliability and luxory :)
I bought a cx7 in 2010 new. I still have it with 250,000mi + and have never had a problem with it. Never let me down. Even now with all those miles I do t have any engine noise at all. It’s made a believer out of me and will look for another Mazda when I make another purchase
The model has been out since 2016. It’s a proven engine and trans. Has great ride/styling and best of all built in Japan! The CX90 will have bugs with a new inline 6 & 8spd auto. I wouldn’t touch a new model till at least year 3 of production.
The newer cx-90 is a much better driving vehicle. Like night and day. That inline6 they have in those are amazing. And used cx-9s are still selling for almost $30k. Car prices are outrageous even in the used market.
My wife and I test drove the new CX-90 with the inline 6 turbo and hybrid boost. Amazing vehicle absolutely loved it until I saw the $52K sticker price. Even worse, her car was there for service and they wanted $2400 for a new headlight assembly with ballast and bulb on a 2013 mazda 3... They wanted $243 for just a D2S bulb...
All vehicles are expensive. Have you seen the price on a new Highlander or Grand Highlander? It's almost the same and it's no where near as luxurious or sporty as the Mazda. Worst of all, you're paying that kind of money for a 4 cylinder 🤮
You probably have LED/HID headlights. That price is normal for that kind of headlight type… I do agree that the cost for parts have gone up over the years and will get worse with newer technology
Mazda's BEST vehicle was the MPV, I had a 1989 Mazda MPV, which I bought from my Mom who bought it brand new in 1989 with my late Dad, that finally wouldn't pass state inspection in N.H. due to the crappy solutions they use for road ice, rusting the frame. It had no issues on the Kentucky roads. Aside from the usual normal items that need to be replaced once in a while, tires, wiper blades, hoses and belts, it had no mechanical issues whatsoever.
We had a 2011 cx9 that we loved. Unfortunately, Mazda decided to no longer produce the gear for the transaxle that goes to the differential. The only way to properly repair the differential is to replace the differential AND the transmission. What was a nice vehicle with only 60K miles, quickly became a rolling piece of junk that we decided to sell to the garage trying to do the repairs. To say we are highly disappointed and disgusted with Mazda is an understatement. Keep this in mind when when considering a Mazda.
Ole Scotty , Good review mate and some gossip on Volkswagen SUVs , I was looking at the VW Tiguan , done a few TH-cam checks and your right , they are a European bag of cats , 😅
Mazda make, great cars. I test drove multiple family wagons and we chose CX-5 by far the better quality Japanese build/reliability and some luxury and classic looks which we never thought we could have afford, test drove Hyundai's and Kias although nice cars to drive I could feel quality was not as good, some pretty on the outside but you could tell underneath the issues further down the line.
We were seriously considering buying a used CX-9 until I started to read a lot of posts about there being a cracking head/antifreeze issue. Anyone have any idea how common the problem is? It is a $6k+ repair, sometimes just opting to replace the entire engine.
@@truthserum5310 That was my conclusions as well, 2018 and up have torque vectoring as well. 2019 added new off road button for all time AWD in snow, etc. There are good deals to be had on the 23' still.
I've got 3 Toyotas and a Lexus, but if I was looking for another car, I'd consider a Mazda... Here in Thailand, they are every other car on the road...😆😆😆😆
I used to like Toyota, even before I discovered Scotty. Owned a '08 Scion tC sold @ 135K miles. Mazdas have been innovative and at the same time pretty to look at for decades, continuing to improve and now Toyotas have had relatively more problems than ever before, and just look ugly. I have a Mazda3 and CX-5 both 2015. CX-5 is @ 97K miles and runs and runs just as smooth as the 3 with 51K! I will only own Mazdas from now on if given the choice.
Because it's still a reasonably sized engine. It's a 2.5 litre engine which isn't going to wear out and strain the engine for power. The only time a turbo is bad is when it's thrown onto a 1.0 or a 1.5 like ford does, I can speak from experience with that.
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Mazda's separation from Ford has brought massive product improvements!
Mazda had such a massive jump in quality when they separated from Ford. It was really fast, too. WIthin one generation they were better than they ever were before.
Ford had influence but some purely Mazda only vehicles were junk too. Mazda also made junk turbo 4cyls on their own back then.
@@302Mustang13 in Ford partnership
True
@@amandeepbaa6978 No. The partnership was Ford supplied V6s to Mazda while Mazda supplied 4cyls to Ford. Those turbo 4 Mazda engines are all Mazda doing.
Later around 2016 or 17, Toyota bought a significant portion & stayed sharing tech. Mazda has only seemed to improve from there, as might be expected. A 17 Yaris iA, however, is simply a Toyota badged Mazda 2.
I have a 2014 Mazda 6 bought in 2013. Right now, I'm pushing close to 130k miles. Still have original shocks/struts and brakes. Car has been trouble-free for the entire time.
I got a 2020 Mazda CX-30 as my first own car. Drives like a dream and it’s sleeper luxury.
I have the same car and I couldn’t love it more! Best car I ever owned.
I have one too. I'm glad they put a slightly bigger tank in newer models, the 2020 has a bird stomach
Rented a cx-30 & bought a cx-9 I love Mazdas
My wife's 2016 Hyundai sonata engine lost one cylinder, but it had 165000 miles when it happened. So we went back to the same dealership and got her a 2019 Mazda CX-5 and she loves it. I'm glad she got what she wanted and knowing Mazda's are super reliable we will never buy a Hyundai again.
I'm the opposite. After 3 Mazdas, I got a Hyundai and am very happy with it.
I keep it simple. And trouble free. Honda/Toyota.
@@louishumphreys5451 New Mazdas are excellent as well
@@jackanderson2773 I'm not going to argue with that. It's going to help that Toyota holds a some 30%? stake in Mazda.
@@louishumphreys5451 True
I miss my 2020 Mazda CX-9, she was totaled but kept me safe 😩❤️
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I hydroplaned once in my CX-5 on the highway and I still can’t understand how an suv in the price range kept itself upright during the maneuvers I had to do at high speed. Absolutely love my Mazda
I wanna be the one to keep u safe Bri. As we listen to colors music, eat low carbs and keto diets and have some mind stimulating guided meditation after
@@wadfasfsdfdsfsf 😂
@@AIGeneratedUser uh, glad you’re safe, but the car shouldn’t be hydroplaning at regular highway speeds. Especially to the point of actually losing control and spinning out.
The base cx-90 starts like 2k over the base cx-9. Both base models come equipped more than Honda and Toyotas.
At that price point you can buy a Lexus
Did you know your last name means “Rabbit-like” in the Polish language? 😂
@@jaycho6747you can say that about the Toyota highlander and Honda pilot 🤷♂️.
@Jay Cho yeah a shitty tiny Lexus with no features?
@@jaycho6747 the Mazda CX-90 is actually nicer than a Lexus and comes with a turbo straight 6 cylinder while Toyota/Lexus is replacing their 6 cylinder with a 4 cylinder turbo
I must have missed the part about Mazda shutting down car production. I guess I'll watch the video again.
All car companies are shutting down.
It'll shock the auto industry, I tellz ya!
Cx9 production is shutting down
@@amandeepbaa6978 Being replaced by more expensive CX90
@@dzcav3 So that is it, not really shutting down??
Every auto maker is shutting down and bankrupt according to Scotty.
Exactly.
Yes ... He is another status quo Pay your taxes ... Fear Porn ... well paid salesman.
Honestly I’m more amazed that auto makers are still in business with the amount of vehicles you see on lots that just aren’t selling around my area
@@rapl1183 They are bailed out by the gov't using tax payer money
@@rapl1183 Here in Wisconsin we cannot find a car to buy. We have been trying to buy a car for 6 months. The Toyota dealers say a Camry LE is a 6 month order AND a $2.5K 'market adjustment' on top ! ! This is THE REAL WORLD !
I have an 2021 CX-9 carbon edition. What a great car! I also have a 2004 Mazda 6i. She has 254k miles. Still runs like a champ.
I wish they'd shut down Electric Vehicle production.
edit please
Amen!!
@@SunofYorkMy fault, sorry.
Are you mad you are going to be out of a job soon?
Why so ?
Another high mileage Mazda and Scotty is once again amazed when the scan tool the engine and tranny are working perfectly. 😊
I just got my brand new Mazda CX 5 last month. I am happy with, it handles very well
Delivered two CX-9s today! People love the CX-9 even at the very end of its product lifecycle.
what would be a good otd price for the base model?
@@jjabulon4823 We just bought a new 2023 Touring Plus at invoice price.
Just purchased 23 CX5 signature turbo,went signature because we love the interior and rims,not a huge fan of turbo’s.
We got rid of our 17 Hyundai Santa Fe sport,60000 miles burning oil a Quart about every 7 to 800 miles. It failed oil consumption test they said they’d replace the motor,gee,only cost me 1000 bucks plus tax. Not,no way! Got 15000 grand trade in,so…… bought what I thought was worth it,thx Scotty for the good advice. We love the car!!!
Great Choice Dave. I drive a 22 CX-5 Signature and absolutely love it. I wouldn't worry to much about the Turbo, the 2.5 Turbo has been a great engine. Just make sure you run Full Synthetic oil and use good quality fuel and you will be good
@@mazdafan22 how do you know if is good or bad quality fuel?
I have non turbo 23 CE but like much kore how is the turbo driving
@@lazarsekulic2694 The part about good quality Fuel, I just meant to purchase your gas at a Brand name gas station, I know some gas stations in Canada where I live are known to have lower quality fuels. I run 91 Premium in mine. The 2.5 Turbo is a very fun, lively little engine. It's very torquey and you don't have to drive it hard to enjoy it
So far just running 87 octane seems to have plenty of power,will try 91 or 93 octane sometime
Wife has a 2016 CX-3. 50,000 miles. No problems with anything ever. Love that car, corners very well, lots of get up and go without a turbo.
I figured this would be Scotty's commentary on Mazda going upscale. I think it's a stupid move - there are plenty of luxury car makes out there: but Mazda was the best driving value prop with plenty of luxury / features for most.
They're not aiming for luxury. They're aiming for in between luxury and normal which is smart as many companies don't offer anything similar.
Yeah, I think Hyundai is going to kill them.
Mazda is a niche product, so having a near-luxury product is an angle that will make more money, as long as they continue to sell cars. Making Mazdas that are just variations of Subarus or Toyotas does nothing to set them apart. The upmarket push is probably smart. The CX-5 we own is much nicer than what you get at Honda for the same money, even if the Honda has more room and higher mpg. The CX-90 is a step up when you look at competitors.
@@tristana.8304
They are lusting after greater margins - it's nothing more than a cynical cash grab.
I believe "in between luxury and normal" is the needle that Mazda has successfully threaded the last 10 years.
Their strategy worked -- sales have increased YoY along with market share. They're tweaking it by trying to go more 'upscale'. They've stated so much and their latest lineup proves it.
Ngl a Mazda equivalent to compete against Acura TLX, Infiniti Q50, Lexus IS would be sweet
Mazdas already have great interiors to compete against luxury cars, they just need to meet the performance
@scottykilmer this is our Mazda and I was happy the codes did not amount to much. I have the new wheel bearing/hub and ready to install. It isn’t that hard to do if you have the right tools. My boys still can’t believe they met you!
Is the cx-9 2017 reliable?
@@r.k862 this was our CX-9 in the video. About 6 months after the video the engine failed. There is a technical bulletin for it and can cause catastrophic failure without notice. The ford engines they used in this era are garbage. We purchased a Toyota Highlander soon after.
@@mikemill8270 thanks for letting me know. I seen people's comments on here suggesting that problems are with the cx9 upto year about 2022 that's when the engines are different. Is this true?
@@r.k862 yes, later models fixed the issue with the strain from the turbo. We ended up selling the car to my in-laws who then replaced the engine and transmission from a low mileage used engine from a newer CX-9. There were no issues that I’m aware of with the engine swap
@@mikemill8270 thank you so much, I really appreciate all your help
My 626 from 91 is still going strong,never has it been any problem with it,32 yrs old🙂All my Mazdas has been flawless. More sceptic to my rav4..time will show.
2.2 liter?
P0126 code for the thermostat. It's a $400.00 part. A known problem of which the car dealers don't want to mess with. I have a 2019 CX-5 2.5 liter non turbo. The warranty is terrible. Other than that, it's a good car. Buying parts is expensive. Word of advice- Don't give any customer experience surveys if bought new from a dealership. They kept pressuring me to complete it quickly. I did, and things started going wrong with car, like reflectors falling off the vehicle. Then it's crickets out of these people. I have a small shop at home to do the repairs. I have a 2007 Ford Fusion with 330 thousand miles. A rebuilt transmission at 180 thousand miles. It cost me 3500 to fix, but I've got another 150 thousand miles out of it so far. Now thats money well spent. I just repair it and keep going.
Just rolled over 100k with a 2018 Fusion SE 1.5 Ecoboost. Regular oil changes and just did coolant flush, trans fluid, spark plugs, 4 wheel brake job new tires. Still running great. Need a detail job to clean it up. wife's driver
mazda tech here, i’ve replaced that part under warranty several times, as have my coworkers.
@@LeavingCaladan Agreed. The coolant thermostat on my 2.5L NA Skyactiv-G was replaced under powertrain warranty with absolutely zero hassle.
@@michaelchimenti4989 glad to hear that!
You're happy to spend 3500 bucks at 180,000 miles for a tranny. You need to see a medical specialist. How about 250,000 and not spent a dime!
I just bought a cx9 three weeks ago with a good deal. I love it .
The first generation CX9 used many Ford drive train parts...reliable up to about 150k miles. This second gen is all Mazda, and a much better vehicle.
From which year does the quality improve of the cx9?
We just bought a new 2023 CX-9 Touring Plus. Got it at invoice price. Liking it so far. I figure it's a pretty well sorted platform at this maturity. Good to see this first year CX-9 with 130k plus miles on it still going strong.
Same here, what was invoice price?
@@zachpowell85 I don't have my paperwork in front of me, but it was somewhere in the 39K range. MSRP was 42K. 2,500 miles on the car so far, and the wife is loving it.
I absolutely LOVE my 2021 CX-9 Grand Touring. 22k miles on it. Takes off like a rocket, super classy interior and exterior as well.
My 2014 impala ltz V6, 305hp. Doesnt need a turbo to tear up the engine. gets as much as 33mpg. 26-30mpg @75-80mph. 90K and zero issues. Knock on wood. Although direct injection worries me later down the road.
It's not a suv. My 2011 suburban gets 14mpg.... its more comparable to suv's. Thes mazda is economical compared to my burb.
@mo aljo ya that's an issue when station wagons fell out of favor. They were low to the ground and not 7ft tall. Today's suvs are like driving a sheet or 2 of plywood into the wind.
My 2014 Terrain has the 3.6 - 301 hp also. My best 50 mile stretch for mpg was 36. I change the oil every 3k - 4k miles....the direct injection worries me too.
@@mudpuddle2658 I dont know why you all worry about direct injection. Diesels have been direct injected since thier inception. I can put over a million miles on a cat diesel and never touch my injectors
@@holmes1956O Carbon build up. Totally different from your diesel.
Just got a 2020 signature for less than half sticker. 20k miles original owner. Couldnt be happier.
CPO?
Was thinking about buying a used CX9 so your video post was perfectly timed - thank you, Scotty!
Just becareful and have ur mechanic check it fully, I have the coolant leaking issue which cause by engine head gasket broken with my 2016 CX9 with 53k miles, they ask 11k USD to fix and Mazda USA refused to give any assistance as they stated it’s not common issue even I have them all the complaints from other owners. It’s common issue, research online please
@@laputa727 thank you for your note - will for sure take to a certified mechanic before purchasing.
@laputa727 That's a crazy price could get a used motor for 4 or 5k online I'd probably go that route...installed is maybe 2k or so.
Shame the turbo 2.5 isn't great cause the na 2.5 is. Oh well guess I'll skip the cx9 and go Toyota.
Love my 2021 CX-9 GT. Aside from mediocre MPG, its nearly perfect. Love all the tech and safety gear. And don't sleep on the torque. Unless you need a 3rd row that's comfortable for adults on long trips (it's fine for kids or short trips), this is the one to buy. It's so much more satisfying to drive than the bigger people movers.
We just bought a 22 cx-9 touring with premium package 6 months ago. Great car.
I just bought a CX9, and I love it. They drive so comfy
I have the same color cx9. But mine is a 2021 signature w/ ivory interior. I’ve tried my best to pamper it. The suv definitely has some pep to it and feels like your driving a small sedan.
My mechanic told me that in time to keep an eye on the oil level and change the oil every 5,000 miles. It has low miles for now, but I’ll def be changing the oil as I do my other cars consistently
@Simr Khera thanks. Yeah I changed both 7-8 months ago. Dealer wanted to charge an arm/ leg for the pit but I bought them online and did them myself
The early 2016 CX9 had some coo!ant leak issues with head\gasket usually by 60k miles..later models used revised parts and the issue vanished.
Saw someone else here report same issue with a 2016..so the 2017+ are good?
@@markg999yeah mazda fixed it for the years to follow. It was just a problem for 2016 models.
@@know916bound Actually forums have people with 2016+ having issue still doesn't appear was fixed.
Ford definitely didn't do that.
I know ppl said they change the engine design from 2020 model, I owned 2016 with 53K miles and this happen. So i think whoever got the 2020+ model should be fine.
If you're having persistent issues with wheel bearings and / or curb rash, may I suggest that you stop parking by feel?
picked up cx-5 awd turbo, its a fun suv, handles awesome. The new car prices are up 10K for the same car since they bought it. my car new in 2021 was 32k, now the same car is 40k+ new.
Based on your reviews (& others), I just bought a 2021.5 Signature with just under 15k miles. It was orig sold new here in S FL in Dec 2021, and traded in at a local Jeep Dealer 2 mos ago. Got them down to $25k and they threw in 2 oil changes and the dealer's $2k service maintenance package. This model is selling between $28-32k in my area, so I'm satisfied with the terms.
I have a 2023 CX-5 AWD and love it.
my next ride, just have to decide what trim.....
@@dogsarefun2 Nice! You'll love it whichever you decide.
Just bought a 2019 CX-9 with 55k a few days ago - fantastic car! Keeping my Mazdaspeed 6 company in the garage now.
I have been buying Mazdas for 10 years. I have 250000 miles on 2 modern Cx 9s. Test drove a Cx 90. I think Mazda will regret their decision. The CX 9 just rocks. Maybe not the best interior space, but for driving, etc....rocks.
got a 2021 gt used for 28,000 with 40,000 miles. Its great and updated from the one you tested.
I bought a 2018 Mazda 6 new. At about 30k, the right wheel bearing was getting noisey, no curb shots or wrecks. The Mazda dealer replaced it under warranty. I think this may be a manufacturing defect. Now at 55k and 5 years I still have no problems.
Going on six months ownership of my 2023 CX50! So far it’s a very solid car!👍🏻👍🏻
they are great!
If they are like the CX5, they're well made and high quality.
Just too cramped inside and low on mpg compared to CRVs and RAV 4s.
Turbo or naturally aspirated?
Any issues with build quality, like large panel gaps? I like my Japanese cars made in Japan.
@Anthony B they are made in Japan and no, build quality issues on the CX-5. Build quality is better than my Highlander.
Bought a 2021 cx9 because of this video. It's replacing my bulletproof '16 cx5.
The new CX-90 has a 3.3L inline 6 cylinder turbo engine! Excited to try it out
Not a turbo fan but you had me at inline 6!!!
In-line 6 turbo sounds lovely.
Same, the way I see it, more moving parts=more failure points
Probably bad gas mileage.
Just put a whistle on your exhaust tip.
Thank you for posting this video. I'm considering buying a used CX-9
I think this is best choice vs honda pilot or toyota highlander .. I pick cx9
What i like about the electric assist power steering in the mazda is. If it drives like a f250, you battery is going out.
My engine on my Mazda CX9 2018 just went out. There's some kind of problem their engine is having & I ended up getting a 2023 Hyundai Santa Fe XRT. I was sad to part with my Mazda...
I have the cx9 and have had great luck with it. I'm at 114k miles and only changed the plugs when it comes to major things. Still runs like a top
Just got rid of my 2011 cx9 yesterday, 300,000 miles, wouldve still been good for another 100,000 if the bottom hadnt rusted out
Scotty, you should open up a business called "Scotty's, Don't Buy that Car Until You Talk to Me!" of course all the dealerships and car salesmen will hate you, but the car buyers will love you!
😂😂 yess
I drive a mazda 626 gd i got for a grand and so far no major issues, ive had it for 4 years
These, second-generation Mazda CX-9's are very reliable and they will last for a while. Do not ever buy a first-generation GMC Acadia. Thank you very much.
Just get a sienna.
This makes me think of a good question. Which do you think would last longer... the 2.5 with turbo.. or the non-turbo which unfortunately has cylinder deactivation?
I wonder the same thing. Don't want a turbo, but I dang sure don't want cylinder deactivation!
@@gmorganhome get the turbo. It is better. Had one on my mazda
Mazda use good turbos, and the engineering around them is excellent too. I did tend to get a little lead footed in the Mazda because it goes so well, but it's more about how you look after the engine and how you drive it. The transmission was excellent too.
You can literally turn off the cylinder desactivation system with just pushing one button, a very visible button 🙄
@@tacuazinful but u do everytime
Do good maintenance on your 2016 and up Mazda and you will have less problems, I own 3 Mazda's now 2017 and up and have not had no major issues, 2015 down when ford was in on it I will not touch !
I think new and used cars for the next 3-5 years will just be expensive. In fact I'd even say the days of a good old decent (but maybe high mileage) $5,000 cars are long gone. Now it's like $10,000 is your new "$5,000" car. I remember my first car was $2500. Drove it for 5 years (it was a mid 90's Ford Taurus) and never had to do anything major other than brakes and tires after about a year. Ran decent. They obviously had problems (like burning oil and cooling issues) but you just let it go. Keep the oil and coolant topped off and it ran great for 5 years until I sold it to get the next car).
Hey Scotty Kilmer l have a mazda cx8 2019 model fwd diesel 2.2l turbo l had the engine changed under warranty due to blown head gasket.The car had 120000km on the dash.
If Scotty ever comes to Florida I want him to review my car. I never seen any Infiniti coupes/sedans reviewed in the channel
Just bought a 2022 cx-9 I love it
I have a 2016 cx9 w/126000 miles and it’s leaking coolant from a cracked cylinder head!😢
I have a jetta 2014 tdi. It just to be fine, but now it's a headache
SUV’s are just glorified but less practical station wagons for people obsessed with keeping up appearances.
Raised station wagons with space!
Crossovers really AREN’T, in my opinion, SUVs because they’re invariably built unibody, not on a truck frame. Don’t get me wrong, they’re handy, I drive a Mazda CX-5, but I’m very resistant about calling it a “truck” or an “SUV”. It really has more in common with my Ford Escort station wagon from the 90s than any truck!!
Even though they are discontinuing the CX-9 a used one that was well maintained would be a smart buy. I see many CX-5 but few CX-9.
I got 2023 CX5 Carbon Edition. Its handling very well, its very quiet inside and generally nice to drive and stay inside, you can feel luxury but only thing is engine, its very load and lazy eapecially 1st gear there is no power enough at all but at least reliability and luxory :)
Bought a 2018 CX9. These cars are meant to last and the way it drives is perfect. Super reliable and great on gas!
I bought a cx7 in 2010 new. I still have it with 250,000mi + and have never had a problem with it. Never let me down. Even now with all those miles I do t have any engine noise at all. It’s made a believer out of me and will look for another Mazda when I make another purchase
@@jayyoutube8790 I believe it!
The model has been out since 2016. It’s a proven engine and trans. Has great ride/styling and best of all built in Japan! The CX90 will have bugs with a new inline 6 & 8spd auto. I wouldn’t touch a new model till at least year 3 of production.
looks like most cars are having new model this year. we are debating 2023 pilot and 2024 cx90, both new engine and new transmission.
"Bumpy RI road" )))I live in Providence, Rhode Island
The newer cx-90 is a much better driving vehicle. Like night and day. That inline6 they have in those are amazing. And used cx-9s are still selling for almost $30k. Car prices are outrageous even in the used market.
Wheel bearing keeps failing: something else is bent. Axle or knuckle.
Great video as always uncle Scotty. Thank you 🙏
My wife and I test drove the new CX-90 with the inline 6 turbo and hybrid boost. Amazing vehicle absolutely loved it until I saw the $52K sticker price. Even worse, her car was there for service and they wanted $2400 for a new headlight assembly with ballast and bulb on a 2013 mazda 3... They wanted $243 for just a D2S bulb...
All vehicles are expensive. Have you seen the price on a new Highlander or Grand Highlander? It's almost the same and it's no where near as luxurious or sporty as the Mazda. Worst of all, you're paying that kind of money for a 4 cylinder 🤮
You probably have LED/HID headlights. That price is normal for that kind of headlight type… I do agree that the cost for parts have gone up over the years and will get worse with newer technology
That's the Mazda advantage. $2400 for that is robbery.
Msrp is supposed to be like 43k for base model. Unless you got higher models or were charged insanely over msrp.
Unless it's an HID bulb that broke, you need to go to a different Mazda dealer because that one is trying to pull a fast one on ya.
Again the automatic failure and the warranty not covering it. Well, another good reason to go for the manual transmission. And save on gas, too.
Mazda's BEST vehicle was the MPV, I had a 1989 Mazda MPV, which I bought from my Mom who bought it brand new in 1989 with my late Dad, that finally wouldn't pass state inspection in N.H. due to the crappy solutions they use for road ice, rusting the frame. It had no issues on the Kentucky roads. Aside from the usual normal items that need to be replaced once in a while, tires, wiper blades, hoses and belts, it had no mechanical issues whatsoever.
My cousin had a Mazda in high school and she loved it!😂
Whatcha know about the dead battery issue 2023 cx5 tnx
Finally made it to scottie's channel! After my audience saying we laugh alike..😂
We had a 2011 cx9 that we loved. Unfortunately, Mazda decided to no longer produce the gear for the transaxle that goes to the differential. The only way to properly repair the differential is to replace the differential AND the transmission. What was a nice vehicle with only 60K miles, quickly became a rolling piece of junk that we decided to sell to the garage trying to do the repairs. To say we are highly disappointed and disgusted with Mazda is an understatement. Keep this in mind when when considering a Mazda.
They were still acquainted to Ford in 2011, but yeah, they haven't gotten much better after they separated from Ford.
Sorry Scotty. Mazda stopped building their best vehicle in 2021 when they stopped building their Mazda 6 sedan! I loved that car, not those crap SUVs!
Ole Scotty , Good review mate and some gossip on Volkswagen SUVs , I was looking at the VW Tiguan , done a few TH-cam checks and your right , they are a European bag of cats , 😅
I love my Wife's 2021 CX-9. Does it all for our needs
A fully loaded cx9 is about $50k I was looking at them about 6 months ago when I got my cx5
Mazda make, great cars. I test drove multiple family wagons and we chose CX-5 by far the better quality Japanese build/reliability and some luxury and classic looks which we never thought we could have afford, test drove Hyundai's and Kias although nice cars to drive I could feel quality was not as good, some pretty on the outside but you could tell underneath the issues further down the line.
We were seriously considering buying a used CX-9 until I started to read a lot of posts about there being a cracking head/antifreeze issue. Anyone have any idea how common the problem is? It is a $6k+ repair, sometimes just opting to replace the entire engine.
This was only a relatively rare issue on the first year 2016, and some 2017 model years. Get a 2018 and up, and these cars are super reliable.
@@truthserum5310 That was my conclusions as well, 2018 and up have torque vectoring as well. 2019 added new off road button for all time AWD in snow, etc. There are good deals to be had on the 23' still.
If it were me, I'd just avoid the CX-9 completely.
Mazdas are good cars.Made easy to work on
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What year is it?
Hi sir i just want to ask if sedan mazda 6 2.5 gasoline and wagon mazda 6 2.5 engine is same spare parts?
We need Scotty to shut down all Electric vehicle productions brutally 😂😂😂😂
@@harveyhankerson8359 Yeah I agree 😉
Cx5 is very nice interior quality little small tho I go rav just for size and mpg but cx5 qualify style made japan
I had a mazdaspeed 3 and it was the biggest pos i ever owned!! In the shop like a jaguar
The last mazdaspeed 3 was produced under Ford which at the time also owned Jaguar. So you could imagine why they split ties in 2012.
What year was this car? I missed it.
Just like the Mazda 6 that they've decided to not make anymore I heard :(
I really hope my cx9 will last like that one.
Mazda CX-5 just played before Scotty's video, lol
Apparently nobody is making any cars anymore except for Toyota, according to Scotty.
pretty much true!
I wonder if the owners have had to do an "intake valve cleaning" due to it's direct injection. That's the think that worries me about "skyactiv"
ATS Carbon Cleaner. Scotty has talked about this.
I traded in my 2017 six with 85k trouble free miles for a 22 CX9.. Its a great looking, handling & well built vehicle. (in Japan no less!)
Do you wish you waited for the Cx90 or are you content with the Cx9?
Equally equipped the CX-9 and CX-90 are similar in price
LMFAO @8:05 💀
Scotty is the biggest troll ever. 😂
I got the 2023 cx9 carbon edition and thought I messed up when the 90 came out but the more I see about the 90 I think I lucked out
I've had decent luck finding lightbulb parts on Rockauto too
I’ve heard some engine issues in recent years. What years are best? I am thinking of a 2020 cx9
Did you buy one? Looking at 2020 and up for that reason
@@NIRAM_J not yet. But if I were to buy one now Probabalt 2021 and up
Is there an answer to this question? I don't know which engines of the year models are bad or good?
I've got 3 Toyotas and a Lexus, but if I was looking for another car, I'd consider a Mazda... Here in Thailand, they are every other car on the road...😆😆😆😆
Even you can only drive one car at once... jesus can drive 5 at once and make coca cola into wine and then change it back again if he gets stopped
@@SunofYork 😂
I used to like Toyota, even before I discovered Scotty. Owned a '08 Scion tC sold @ 135K miles.
Mazdas have been innovative and at the same time pretty to look at for decades, continuing to improve and now Toyotas have had relatively more problems than ever before, and just look ugly.
I have a Mazda3 and CX-5 both 2015. CX-5 is @ 97K miles and runs and runs just as smooth as the 3 with 51K!
I will only own Mazdas from now on if given the choice.
@@DE-qk7fj Does the cylinder de-activation bother you ?... Scotty says it wrecks the engine eventually
Scotty, how can you recommend a turbo charged engine?!
Because it's still a reasonably sized engine. It's a 2.5 litre engine which isn't going to wear out and strain the engine for power. The only time a turbo is bad is when it's thrown onto a 1.0 or a 1.5 like ford does, I can speak from experience with that.
i own a mazda and its a POS at 3 years everything needs replacement Tires, battery wipers etc.
I wanted CX9 in past but Mazda was too expensive compared to Toyota. Also turbocharged and high octane gasoline makes even more spending overtime.