The more I re-watch the later seasons the more I like them. I still think Winds of Winter will be a better book if and when it's released. The main plot issues people have with this season are still to come, and while I understand them and agree to some extent, the show did OK with what they were contractually compelled to work with.
Agreed I think the book ending will be much more satisfying because the journeys will be fleshed out. Also… They had better versions of the show characters like book Euron for example. I also was looking forward to seeing more connected to the Maester at the citadel that was working with magic. I forget his name now but o remember it possibly tying in to the long running conspiracy theory that the maesters had been trying to weaken the Targs and magic in general since early days beyond HOTD
Don't forget the prince that was promised DID unite those to fight to protect their world. Who else was trying to do that? Cecei was trying to keep her crown and Dany was trying to take the crown.
who did jon unite besides daenerys? none of the other kingdoms joined them in the fight. there was no prophecy in season 8 of got and the sooner you guys start to accept that, the less painful it will be.
None of the other regions of Westeros fought, Jon brought Dany onside other than that it was the North. Jon didn’t unite anything, the prophecy was iffy, that’s a theme of GoT but this was just stupid
The other houses did band together at Winterfell as did some Wildlings. Nights Watch don't bother with Houses do they? I may be incorrect in all the lore here. But I think Jon brought a lot of people together. Wildlings fighting alongside anyone from south of the wall? Unheard of. And the Nights watch coming down to join? I may not be correct in the lore for all but I think Jon got a lot of people to come together. People that normally would not have.
@@peuzipJon convinced Dani, the North and the wildlings. Three different groups that were not allies is any way at all. None of them trusted each other. The Vale, wildlings and all different houses of the north banded together after the battle of the bastards. Even the northern houses were divided until the BoB. Jon risked his life numerous times just to prove the threat was real and unite everyone. He didn’t want political power he just wanted people to live.
I really enjoyed this episode on my first watch. I mean, I couldn't see anything but at least it sounded pretty exciting! Shoutout to Sky Germany for letting me pay for a heavily compressed 720p stream just so I could get the episode 'elsewhere' afterwards to actually see what's happening.
I liked that Arya killed the Night King. It would have been to cliche and trite if Jon did it. Arya's entire story arc from the first moments we saw her was being a good fighter and becoming a better fighter. Even though I don't like this Season due to what followed this episode. Arya killing the Night King was very poetic. When her father was about to be executed, she wasn't able to get through a crowd to save him. now due to her training she was able to maneuver through the crowd and save her brother from being executed. And she used all her training to do it. The Hound showing her where the heart is, the stealth of the faceless men, switching the blade to the other hand with Brianne, catching the blade with her dancing master. Throughout the entire series she was constantly meeting people who were teaching her how to fight and kill. Loved this moment.
I'm indifferent about her killing the Night King, I don't mind but I wouldn't have also minded if Jon did. What I did want was for Arya to kill Cersei. I thought she should have been the one to see that through. - Cam
@@ChannelSee1 I definitely wanted Arya to kill Cersei. One of the many lame things about Season 8. Imo one of the greatest villains of all time, someone I loved to hate (Cersei), and she dies by some rocks falling on top of her head? Really? Cersei tied up after being captured by Daenerys, Arya comes in the empty room, doesn't say a word. Pulls out a violin and plays the Rains of Castamere as Cersei realizes her end in near. Then Arya gives her the Littlefinger special across the throat would have been better. Oh well.
Arya killing the NK makes so much sense. Think about it: The NK is death. Arya has LITERALLY been worshipping the god of death since season 1. She’s been training to kill since season 1. Jon, the prince that was promised, was the FIRST to arm her. It made sense!
Arya should have died to the NK, she has been avoiding death all her life. How fitting it would have been to finally face death itself and die in place of her family this time around.
@@rtellez19891 respectfully, I think you’re wrong. Arya has been the most consistent and reliable killer on the show since season 1. Think about it: Syrio, Ned Stark, Yoren, The Red Wedding, Lysa Arryn (the laugh 😂), The Hound (although he lived due to having a part to play later), Lady Crane, the old structure of the Faceless Men and more! Everywhere she went…death followed! If she didn’t do the actual killing, she was present for major deaths throughout the show. Arya brought death to NK
@@marcelloussmith8951 unintentionally got ppl killed yes, bc of her she got butcher boy killed, bc of her Ned gave up his honor and life for his daughters after seeing her on top of Baelor, and yes bc of her the hound almost died and all the other you mention, the only way to avoid more death for her to give her life in place of the ones she loves instead of them for her. That would be fulfilling to her fight against death and to protect her family.
When Jon Snow reunited with Arya it was by that tree...Jon was standing there and Arya snuck up on him. Jon even asked, "How did you sneak up on me?" The point is: Arya is that 🥷
My only complaint about the Arya moment is the cheesiness of the wisp of that White Walker’s hair blowing. That will never not be funny to me in such a serious moment.
I legit cried in the living room during the scene where the swords were lite on fire. I was like it’s finally here. This is the moment we’ve been waiting for.
It would've been too obvious if Jon killed the Night King. Also, only someone with stealthy assassin skills like Arya could've killed him. Jon did everything he could till that point for 8 straight seasons. He's the main reason they won. The dead dragon was protecting the passage to where Bran and the Night King were and Jon couldn't do anything because he's not a superhero. People forget that Bran gave Arya the dagger because he knew she was the one who will make the final blow.
So by your logic bran knew the future but still let Danny blow up Kingslanding without telling Jon ? And then knew Jon would kill Danny cause he was the only one would could get close then becomes king after a couple episodes prior he told Tyrion he can’t be the lord of anything cause he’s the three eyed raven … hmm then becomes king and banish him to the wall but only the starks, Tyrion and Sam knew about his lineage hmm… yup that makes total sense
@@BLACKlVlAMB4 Yes. It makes perfect sense if you understand the role of the Three Eyed Raven. If you see the future, you don't go around telling people what will happen because it wont happen then. You can guide people without telling them what to do. Also, Jon's destiny was always to end up North of the Wall, to become the King beyond the wall. He was always the outcast and his story is far from over. George RR Martin certainly needed loose ends so that he can have the final say and not the show.
@morpheusjones4753 at the time I didn't pick up on the foreshadowing, but I guess as already mentioned, they did that to make it make sense when Arya killed the night king.
Jon was the prince that was promised. The dagger with the prophecy inscription Viserys showed Rhaenyra & then Arya uses, says "From my blood comes the prince who was promised and his will be the song of ice and fire". Jon is a Targaryen and heir to the throne. The prophecy says a king or queen strong enough to unite the realm to defeat the cold and the dark. Jon did exactly that. People just assumed the prophecy means Jon will kill the night king and then become king of the seven kingdoms.
Whole goddamn fandom struck dumb because of a stupid prophecy that ultimately came to fruition but they were to set on Jon being the one to kill the night king and sit the throne. Just sad at this point. Greatest show of all time for me.
jon is nothing and nothing. the prophecy means nothing in game of thrones. that will only be canon in the books. the prince that was promised is daenerys, azor ahai reborn amidst salt and smoke, the one who has awaken dragons from stone.
Arya’s attack on the Night King goes back to her training by Syrio Forel in season 1, chasing cats. Her ambidextrous abilities were beat into her at the House of Black and White with the Waif. Her fascination with female warriors helped her get to this point ❤
Jon wanted to fight him. It’s not his fault that The Night King with his punk ass wanted no part of him. He raised the dead around him to shield him from Jon cuz he knew Jon and his valerian steel sword could take him out! The Night King remembered Hardhome. Besides, Jon was the only one who could get everyone united to fight The Army of The dead.
The reason that people have so much angst against it, is because we didn't have the luxury of binging. We had to wait 1.5 YEARS between Jon Snow dying and coming back! We talked at the "water cooler" endlessly, predicted, speculated...the only show in history with more Emmys is Saturday Night Live, and that's only because SNL has been on the air since the 1970's. We were INVESTED in this thing and we felt like they squeezed the last two seasons out like they were trying to get the last drop from a Taco Bell Fire Sauce packet.
There folks who are disappointed that it was Arya that killed the night king,but it was never prophesied that John would kill the NK,only that a Targaryen had to be on the throne to bring the realm together to defeat the NK,which John did. Some people really need to get a grip. My disappointments with the last season was it should’ve been at least 10 episodes to bring the story to a decent conclusion,and how do you kill the man who started all the shit,and never mention him again
Since when was the realm the North, danys forces and wildlings? The reach wasn’t there, no crown lands, no Dorne, no stormlands no westerlands D&D were to lazy to do the prophecy justice where you can say it still happened just not the way you think it will. People who still defend this drivel are simple
A few things about the dagger. That dagger was shown in a book either Sam or Gilly was flipping though in an earlier episode. Also, remember how Arya finished her sparring match with Brianne? Go back and view that scene. And last, I’ll always be curious if the many face God was actually training Arya to kill the night king.
The giant that killed Lyanna Mormont was missing the same eye that Wun Wun the giant that got shot in the eye and killed by Ramsay in the battle of the bastards idk if it is actually the same giant but I thought it was interesting when I noticed the similarity
And here is the moment I propose my widely hated but still very plausible ARYA/THE WAIF Theory. Since the moment she entered the room with The Waif and the lights went out, Arya is a different character. I propose that Arya did not kill The Waif, but the opposite, and The Waif assumed her identity as her role in service of the Many Face God. Arya had not completed training to become No One. The Waif had. Arya had not served but rather defied the Many Face God... repeatedly. The Waif said... You Promised to Jacquen. When "Arya" returned, he said, At Last A Girl Is No One. Arya DID NOT POSSESS these fighting skills. Her entire demeanor in the following seasons becomes and remains that of The Waif... not of Arya Stark. The way she speaks, holds her head, her entire demeanor has changed. It is EXACTLY like that of The Waif previously. I propose that GRRM wrote this twist into the original script, but the reveal was nixed because it would have been HATED by the Fandom. I keep hoping that one day the theory finds its way back to GRRM for a chance at either confirmation or denial.
Imagine R2D2 killing Vader in Star Wars/Hawkeye or Groot killing Thanos in Avengers. That's how it felt when Night King level threat was rekt this lame by some 4ft rogue girl...
Action junkie here who doesn't mind fog-of-war atmosphere that kept me on the edge of my seat for the entire length of this episode. Kudos to them! and Glad you guys go to experience this! Sure, the writing wasn't top notch, but the cinematography was so so beautififul...
The prince that was promised had nothing to do with the Nighking. In fact, the Nightking wasn't even in the books. The Nightking was not a main character either. He had 5 minutes of screen time in the whole series, I think Arya had more screen time in just one episode. In fact the dagger had more screen time then the Nightking. George is trying to have it both ways, in 2 different shows. Remember King Vaesarys holding onto the precious dagger, mentioning "The prince that was promised." The same precious dagger that was in the hands of a common assassin, as if that was the only thing that can kill Bran & all the wise men of Winterfell happened to be born yesterday, because they never put up a red flag as to why an assassin would have the dagger & who would be that stupid to lend it to leave a crumb trail to themselves. You're ASSUMING the prince that was promised was Jon Snow. Who was the supposed most crucial person in the first 3 episodes?
Jon snow Prince that was promised vs Night king should have been the final fight. All or nothing. What a wasted potential. The white walkers should have been defeated at the end of the series, if you don't understand that then you didn't understand anything. Greetings from mexico
Too dark, but with the settings on your screen changed, it’s possible to appreciate the beautiful visuals and photography. Other than that tho, this battle is dumb as shizz.
That thing with them going to get a white walker was how the writers could get away with giving the night king a dragon . That’s the only reason they did that cause like you guys said otherwise that would’ve never happened
When the Red Woman lit the trench on fire they show Jon sitting on the Dragon on the wall of Winterfell. Why didn't he just light the trench with the Dragon?
I thought this episode up until the end was cool, and then I realized they hid everyone in a literal cemetery against people who turn the dead into monsters
One would think with Bran's ability to Worg, he would've found some animals to contribute to the fight. All he does is sit with his eyes rolled back and "watching" with ravens. Seriously? The writers could've given him more of a role in the fight than the bait.
Man this is such a stunning episode! You’re right though, it was dark as hell. I’m glad your brightness is higher so I could watch along better with you!
Can, you drive me nuts with all your moving 😂. You always have to be doing something and moving. Your fingers, drinking, your phone. I'm the same way and I drive myself nuts 😂. I wonder what that is 🤔. Love you both. I can't believe the GOT reactions are almost over 😢
In the books it’s heavily implied that Jon is Azor Ahai. The prince that was promised. The books needed when Jon was stabbed and died at castle black…That’s where the books ended, so we’ve been waiting for 10 years to find out what happens next. In my opinion Theon, Jamie and the Sandor have the best character arcs in the show. Theon redeemed himself defending Bran. As far as Jamie and Sandor I won’t spoil it.
Arya is NOT the main character. The showrunners admitted they took the NK kill away from Jon to “subvert expectations” (meaningful story be damned), but the real reason was that the wanted the new Star Wars franchise and the SW producers made it known they were all about the Me Too girl power bandwagon. So now we are left with this travesty. Btw, the Prince Who Was Promised can only be a Targaryen, as finally confirmed by George in HotD. People who think the mention in HotD was retconning, are mistaken; it was a corrective of one of the worst storytelling screwups of all time.
Not sure anyone told you the rule but if you aren’t on screen you can’t die. So everyone survived by the cutaway shot. 5 undead coming for Dany? Cut away. Brienne about to die? Cutaway. Its all good. 🙄 pretty sure a child could have made better battle plans. Crypts? Good idea. Yes our enemy raises the dead but… you can’t think of everything. Can’t even watch this shit with reactions.
The damn butchers boy in season 1 probably put up a better fight than the night king... So much for the "big threat" that loomed large over 70+ episodes lol
You really think season 7 episode 6 was the dopiest for trying to capture one of the dead? My top 5 dopiest moments were: 1- The dagger of all daggers, the most precious dagger in Westoros was in the hands of a nobody assassin to kill Bran. It was so stupid, that the writing had to make the wisest men in Winterfell to appear like clowns, for never questioning on why would a high lord lend such a rare weapon to leave a crumb trail to himself, it's not as if it was the only weapon that can kill Bran. Was there even another Vaelaryan Steel Dagger left in all of Westoros? 2- Mance telling Jon that he sent 400 Wildlings to climb a deserted stretch of the wall not far from Castle Black, after he learned how weak the defenses were. Ever hear how the 50 remaining leaderless men at Castle Black defeated the 400 Wildlings? Why bother mentioning it in the show, if you don't follow up on what happened? Stannis & Jon arrive at Castle Black without any evidence that a new battle went on. 3- Syrio Ferel the supposed Dancing Master who forgot to pick up a steel sword off the ground to take on Sir Meryn Trant who was in armor, instead, he took 3 steps forward with a wooden sword. Just one episode removed from when Bronn took on an armored knight in the Vale, danced around the knight, picked at his weak points & whooped his ass. Dancing Master or dancing fool? 4-The Unsullied, masters of the short sword & the long spear. Patrolled Mereen, a city with narrow streets, armed with long spears. Long spears are useless in hand to hand combat in tight quarters. Does one become a master of a weapon when they don't know when to properly use it? Grey worm should of been fired for not making sure that they were armed with short swords, on why they got their asses kicked with guys in masks. This was sort of like the Navy Seals getting whooped by Somali pirates in combat. 5- The end of season 2, Sam cowering behind a rock, steps away from a Whitewalker on a horse, who calls out the charge. The start of season 3, the Night's Watch put the finishing touches on the undead. The million dollar question was, for what possible reason would the Whitewalker retreat? The Night's watch did not possess any Valaryan Steel, fire doesn't work on Whitewalkers & it wasn't till episodes later that Sam kills the first Whitewalker in thousands of years, using Dragonglass, ONLY AFTER using his regular sword that just shattered on him. Sort of like Superman taking off the moment he sees people with a butter knife.
"how do they continue the season after this" was what we all thought at the time... this episode was mostly good, but frankly the ending was a big WTF and then the rest of the season took a big tumble into a flaming shit pile after this hahaha. This episode was impossible to watch without turning the brightness up. I actually paused it, turned the brightness way up, then restarted it.
Sadly, GoTs story line was changed by the HBO directors to reflect today's modern "girl power" nonsense and greatly diminished the death of the Night King by having him killed by Arya. Jon Snow is the prince that was promised. So many series today and movies have been completely ruined by the woke nonsense.
Jesus Christ...it had zero to do with wokeness. It was just shitty writing. I bet you were apoplectic at the end of season 6 when it appeared it was going to be a showdown for the Iron Throne between Cersei and Dany. I don't understand why the idea of inclusivity brings out people's inner bigotry.
The "girl power" thing is definitely not woke or feminist, it's this empty attempt to seem all enlightened by just inserting a girl or woman into some cool or powerful moment, rather than writing a story which naturally includes or builds to moments where women or girls are powerful or are the heroes. The complaint is more that with a couple of very minor in-episode adjustments, it could have been anyone that took out the Night King and it would have roughly the same or better payoff, but it felt like they chose Arya because she's a girl boss and not because it made sense. It's just lazy. Edit: Ope, I missed their last line where they definitely whined about wokeness. Adjusted that bit of my comment since it's not applicable
@360recaps True, I did miss the last line so the commenter's intent isn't what I thought. I still think their garbage writing was an example of shoehorning just anyone into the role of the hero and landing on Arya because she was a "bad bitch", so I'm standing by the rest of it
Dude on the left side make yourself useful.Did she not just do something like lighting?The spears, are you telling her to make yourself useful?Are you serious dude
House Mormont may be extinct (I think...), but Lady Lyanna and Ser Jorah went out proud.
I wish we had gotten to see more of Lyanna's mother and sisters before the Red Wedding.
Lady Mormont was a boss! she dont take no shit! ... RIP little girl.
Also, never forget Lady Mormont - Giant Killer
I remember when I first watched this, my nerves were so bad…🫠 The fight scenes were really good in this episode.🙌🏾
The more I re-watch the later seasons the more I like them. I still think Winds of Winter will be a better book if and when it's released. The main plot issues people have with this season are still to come, and while I understand them and agree to some extent, the show did OK with what they were contractually compelled to work with.
Agreed I think the book ending will be much more satisfying because the journeys will be fleshed out. Also… They had better versions of the show characters like book Euron for example. I also was looking forward to seeing more connected to the Maester at the citadel that was working with magic. I forget his name now but o remember it possibly tying in to the long running conspiracy theory that the maesters had been trying to weaken the Targs and magic in general since early days beyond HOTD
Don't forget the prince that was promised DID unite those to fight to protect their world. Who else was trying to do that? Cecei was trying to keep her crown and Dany was trying to take the crown.
who did jon unite besides daenerys? none of the other kingdoms joined them in the fight. there was no prophecy in season 8 of got and the sooner you guys start to accept that, the less painful it will be.
None of the other regions of Westeros fought, Jon brought Dany onside other than that it was the North. Jon didn’t unite anything, the prophecy was iffy, that’s a theme of GoT but this was just stupid
The other houses did band together at Winterfell as did some Wildlings. Nights Watch don't bother with Houses do they? I may be incorrect in all the lore here. But I think Jon brought a lot of people together. Wildlings fighting alongside anyone from south of the wall? Unheard of. And the Nights watch coming down to join? I may not be correct in the lore for all but I think Jon got a lot of people to come together. People that normally would not have.
@@peuzipJon convinced Dani, the North and the wildlings. Three different groups that were not allies is any way at all. None of them trusted each other. The Vale, wildlings and all different houses of the north banded together after the battle of the bastards. Even the northern houses were divided until the BoB. Jon risked his life numerous times just to prove the threat was real and unite everyone. He didn’t want political power he just wanted people to live.
@@Cucumberstopickles Exactly. People are just butthurt that they're beloved Jon Snow didn't kill the night king and end up on the iron throne
I really enjoyed this episode on my first watch. I mean, I couldn't see anything but at least it sounded pretty exciting!
Shoutout to Sky Germany for letting me pay for a heavily compressed 720p stream just so I could get the episode 'elsewhere' afterwards to actually see what's happening.
I liked that Arya killed the Night King. It would have been to cliche and trite if Jon did it. Arya's entire story arc from the first moments we saw her was being a good fighter and becoming a better fighter. Even though I don't like this Season due to what followed this episode. Arya killing the Night King was very poetic. When her father was about to be executed, she wasn't able to get through a crowd to save him. now due to her training she was able to maneuver through the crowd and save her brother from being executed. And she used all her training to do it. The Hound showing her where the heart is, the stealth of the faceless men, switching the blade to the other hand with Brianne, catching the blade with her dancing master. Throughout the entire series she was constantly meeting people who were teaching her how to fight and kill. Loved this moment.
I'm indifferent about her killing the Night King, I don't mind but I wouldn't have also minded if Jon did. What I did want was for Arya to kill Cersei. I thought she should have been the one to see that through. - Cam
@@ChannelSee1 I definitely wanted Arya to kill Cersei. One of the many lame things about Season 8. Imo one of the greatest villains of all time, someone I loved to hate (Cersei), and she dies by some rocks falling on top of her head? Really? Cersei tied up after being captured by Daenerys, Arya comes in the empty room, doesn't say a word. Pulls out a violin and plays the Rains of Castamere as Cersei realizes her end in near. Then Arya gives her the Littlefinger special across the throat would have been better. Oh well.
Arya killing the NK makes so much sense. Think about it: The NK is death. Arya has LITERALLY been worshipping the god of death since season 1. She’s been training to kill since season 1. Jon, the prince that was promised, was the FIRST to arm her. It made sense!
Arya should have died to the NK, she has been avoiding death all her life. How fitting it would have been to finally face death itself and die in place of her family this time around.
@@rtellez19891 respectfully, I think you’re wrong. Arya has been the most consistent and reliable killer on the show since season 1. Think about it: Syrio, Ned Stark, Yoren, The Red Wedding, Lysa Arryn (the laugh 😂), The Hound (although he lived due to having a part to play later), Lady Crane, the old structure of the Faceless Men and more! Everywhere she went…death followed! If she didn’t do the actual killing, she was present for major deaths throughout the show. Arya brought death to NK
@@marcelloussmith8951 unintentionally got ppl killed yes, bc of her she got butcher boy killed, bc of her Ned gave up his honor and life for his daughters after seeing her on top of Baelor, and yes bc of her the hound almost died and all the other you mention, the only way to avoid more death for her to give her life in place of the ones she loves instead of them for her. That would be fulfilling to her fight against death and to protect her family.
No.
When Jon Snow reunited with Arya it was by that tree...Jon was standing there and Arya snuck up on him. Jon even asked, "How did you sneak up on me?" The point is: Arya is that 🥷
My only complaint about the Arya moment is the cheesiness of the wisp of that White Walker’s hair blowing. That will never not be funny to me in such a serious moment.
I legit cried in the living room during the scene where the swords were lite on fire. I was like it’s finally here. This is the moment we’ve been waiting for.
Cried? About that shitty episode?
It would've been too obvious if Jon killed the Night King. Also, only someone with stealthy assassin skills like Arya could've killed him. Jon did everything he could till that point for 8 straight seasons. He's the main reason they won. The dead dragon was protecting the passage to where Bran and the Night King were and Jon couldn't do anything because he's not a superhero. People forget that Bran gave Arya the dagger because he knew she was the one who will make the final blow.
I agree
Shut up. Why would you defend this criminally bad writing? Why? You cannot be a true GoT fan and defend this pile of wretch. You just cannot.
So by your logic bran knew the future but still let Danny blow up Kingslanding without telling Jon ? And then knew Jon would kill Danny cause he was the only one would could get close then becomes king after a couple episodes prior he told Tyrion he can’t be the lord of anything cause he’s the three eyed raven … hmm then becomes king and banish him to the wall but only the starks, Tyrion and Sam knew about his lineage hmm… yup that makes total sense
@@BLACKlVlAMB4 Yes. It makes perfect sense if you understand the role of the Three Eyed Raven. If you see the future, you don't go around telling people what will happen because it wont happen then. You can guide people without telling them what to do. Also, Jon's destiny was always to end up North of the Wall, to become the King beyond the wall. He was always the outcast and his story is far from over. George RR Martin certainly needed loose ends so that he can have the final say and not the show.
@@BLACKlVlAMB4 not sure why people like you feel the need to ruin everything for people who haven't seen it yet🙄
16:40 about Melisandre ‘make yourself useful for once in your life’ we forgetting about resurrected Jon Snow 🥴
lmfao yea I just be mad at her for killing Shireen - Cam
I hate to admit it but she’s one of my favorite supporting characters. Such an interesting arc.
missandei explained the translation of the prophecy if you remember she said the translation could mean the prince or princess that was promised
Then who would be the princess? Arya is technically a Lady, right?
that was once they decided to have arya kill him so they needed to change that before to try and make it make sense
@morpheusjones4753 at the time I didn't pick up on the foreshadowing, but I guess as already mentioned, they did that to make it make sense when Arya killed the night king.
@@mariamenegalli2321 ahh understood.
@@wh1skeybudit’s a point from the books, so maybe not
Jon was the prince that was promised. The dagger with the prophecy inscription Viserys showed Rhaenyra & then Arya uses, says "From my blood comes the prince who was promised and his will be the song of ice and fire". Jon is a Targaryen and heir to the throne. The prophecy says a king or queen strong enough to unite the realm to defeat the cold and the dark. Jon did exactly that. People just assumed the prophecy means Jon will kill the night king and then become king of the seven kingdoms.
Whole goddamn fandom struck dumb because of a stupid prophecy that ultimately came to fruition but they were to set on Jon being the one to kill the night king and sit the throne. Just sad at this point. Greatest show of all time for me.
jon is nothing and nothing. the prophecy means nothing in game of thrones. that will only be canon in the books. the prince that was promised is daenerys, azor ahai reborn amidst salt and smoke, the one who has awaken dragons from stone.
He didn’t unite shit. It was Dany & the North, no one else fought
The "Prince that was Promised will bring the Dawn". Jon didn't do that Arya brought the dawn. Jon didn't do much of anything in this battle.
There are three episodes left and our characters’ jobs aren’t done yet.
Y’all gotta react to the GoT season 8 Pitch Meeting once you finish it
(On Arya) "She killed more than anyone else so far."
Me: .....so far.
You can find Arya by following the trail of dead
This series is way better than House of the Dragon, right?
Arya’s attack on the Night King goes back to her training by Syrio Forel in season 1, chasing cats. Her ambidextrous abilities were beat into her at the House of Black and White with the Waif. Her fascination with female warriors helped her get to this point ❤
For real. Learning to fight blind made her one valuable asset when we’re struggling with the brightness of our television screens.
Zzzzzz
Most likely someone already told you but the dagger Arya used is the same one from HOTD that has the prophecy written on it.
The dagger was the very same dagger that was once Aegon I Targaryen’s and contained his dream about the prince that was promised.
Dothraki's woulnt ever allow blood magic into there theater of war
“…not signing a petition” 😂 same.
Hi. Everyone may already know the answer but it's my first time watching with you. Are you related? You favor each other. Just curious.😊
Why didn’t Melisandre light the dead on fire tho lol 😂
Much respect and RIP to all the 'no named' characters...
Jon wanted to fight him. It’s not his fault that The Night King with his punk ass wanted no part of him. He raised the dead around him to shield him from Jon cuz he knew Jon and his valerian steel sword could take him out! The Night King remembered Hardhome. Besides, Jon was the only one who could get everyone united to fight The Army of The dead.
Guys you're killing me, please upload episode 4 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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The reason that people have so much angst against it, is because we didn't have the luxury of binging. We had to wait 1.5 YEARS between Jon Snow dying and coming back! We talked at the "water cooler" endlessly, predicted, speculated...the only show in history with more Emmys is Saturday Night Live, and that's only because SNL has been on the air since the 1970's. We were INVESTED in this thing and we felt like they squeezed the last two seasons out like they were trying to get the last drop from a Taco Bell Fire Sauce packet.
Oh I can understand that, but just wait until next episode because our feelings start to change a bit lol. - Cam
Fire sauce is so salty though
Great episode... 😮 😢and sad... Joraaaaaah 😢😢😢 Theon😢 Beric, Lyanna, Ed 😢 Red woman😢
She should have been the main spin off character. Arya I mean
S8: Winter Came! Winter left! Lolz
In high Valyrian, the word "prince" is gender neutral
okay random high valyrian scholar on the internet(stop defending baf writing)
@@nahomkebede5107 Ok random person who expects great writing from tv shows
@@nahomkebede5107I mean, if you watched the show, it was mentioned at least two times. Scholarship was not necessary
Prince or princess as was illustrated in season 7
The cast and crew had to reverse their days and nights because they could only film at night. This episode took 11 weeks to film.
No 1 could kill the night king so no 1 did. Get it ?
There folks who are disappointed that it was Arya that killed the night king,but it was never prophesied that John would kill the NK,only that a Targaryen had to be on the throne to bring the realm together to defeat the NK,which John did.
Some people really need to get a grip.
My disappointments with the last season was it should’ve been at least 10 episodes to bring the story to a decent conclusion,and how do you kill the man who started all the shit,and never mention him again
I can agree with this. Both season 7 and 8 should have been full seasons and everything would have worked out much better and smoother -Cam
Since when was the realm the North, danys forces and wildlings? The reach wasn’t there, no crown lands, no Dorne, no stormlands no westerlands D&D were to lazy to do the prophecy justice where you can say it still happened just not the way you think it will. People who still defend this drivel are simple
A few things about the dagger. That dagger was shown in a book either Sam or Gilly was flipping though in an earlier episode. Also, remember how Arya finished her sparring match with Brianne? Go back and view that scene. And last, I’ll always be curious if the many face God was actually training Arya to kill the night king.
They got MAJOR Plot Armor lol. Just look at sam crying and surviving lol.
Oh, and bran is the puppet master.. give it a thought
Samwell surviving becomes more and more crazy with every rewatch smh lol
Guys, brand is the three eyed raven, but also secretly the Lord of light. Maybe future brand is the lord of light.
The giant that killed Lyanna Mormont was missing the same eye that Wun Wun the giant that got shot in the eye and killed by Ramsay in the battle of the bastards idk if it is actually the same giant but I thought it was interesting when I noticed the similarity
When this episode aired, i thought my phone was cheap and i needed HD or something.
And here is the moment I propose my widely hated but still very plausible ARYA/THE WAIF Theory.
Since the moment she entered the room with The Waif and the lights went out, Arya is a different character. I propose that Arya did not kill The Waif, but the opposite, and The Waif assumed her identity as her role in service of the Many Face God. Arya had not completed training to become No One. The Waif had. Arya had not served but rather defied the Many Face God... repeatedly. The Waif said... You Promised to Jacquen. When "Arya" returned, he said, At Last A Girl Is No One.
Arya DID NOT POSSESS these fighting skills. Her entire demeanor in the following seasons becomes and remains that of The Waif... not of Arya Stark. The way she speaks, holds her head, her entire demeanor has changed. It is EXACTLY like that of The Waif previously.
I propose that GRRM wrote this twist into the original script, but the reveal was nixed because it would have been HATED by the Fandom.
I keep hoping that one day the theory finds its way back to GRRM for a chance at either confirmation or denial.
"only death can pay for life" Arya learned from Jaqen
Imagine R2D2 killing Vader in Star Wars/Hawkeye or Groot killing Thanos in Avengers. That's how it felt when Night King level threat was rekt this lame by some 4ft rogue girl...
Action junkie here who doesn't mind fog-of-war atmosphere that kept me on the edge of my seat for the entire length of this episode. Kudos to them! and Glad you guys go to experience this! Sure, the writing wasn't top notch, but the cinematography was so so beautififul...
Season 8 is definitely feeling the big budget, even for episodes we didn’t like we still enjoyed watching because everything looked great overall.
Season 8 is definitely feeling the big budget, even for episodes we didn’t like we still enjoyed watching because everything looked great overall.
The prince that was promised had nothing to do with the Nighking. In fact, the Nightking wasn't even in the books. The Nightking was not a main character either. He had 5 minutes of screen time in the whole series, I think Arya had more screen time in just one episode. In fact the dagger had more screen time then the Nightking. George is trying to have it both ways, in 2 different shows. Remember King Vaesarys holding onto the precious dagger, mentioning "The prince that was promised." The same precious dagger that was in the hands of a common assassin, as if that was the only thing that can kill Bran & all the wise men of Winterfell happened to be born yesterday, because they never put up a red flag as to why an assassin would have the dagger & who would be that stupid to lend it to leave a crumb trail to themselves.
You're ASSUMING the prince that was promised was Jon Snow. Who was the supposed most crucial person in the first 3 episodes?
Jon snow Prince that was promised vs Night king should have been the final fight. All or nothing. What a wasted potential.
The white walkers should have been defeated at the end of the series, if you don't understand that then you didn't understand anything.
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The fandom up to this point thought Brand was the Night king, and was in a time loop.
I feel like Arya was only able to do this because she had The dagger from HotD after watching the spin off, only way it pays it off imo haha
Too dark, but with the settings on your screen changed, it’s possible to appreciate the beautiful visuals and photography. Other than that tho, this battle is dumb as shizz.
My guy Cam King, do people tell you that you resemble Jeffrey Wright from Westworld and American Fiction? Like his younger cousin 😂
lol that's a first, but I can see it. - Cam
If you switch the effects to tickling effects and laugther.. this episode makes more sense. 😂
That thing with them going to get a white walker was how the writers could get away with giving the night king a dragon . That’s the only reason they did that cause like you guys said otherwise that would’ve never happened
Yea I get that, I just think the idea was executed poorly. - Cam
When the Red Woman lit the trench on fire they show Jon sitting on the Dragon on the wall of Winterfell. Why didn't he just light the trench with the Dragon?
It was supposed to be watched in a dark room, then you could see it. The director intentionally made it that way.👀
The speech by Jon at the beginning of next episode is one of the most powerful scenes in all GoTs 💯
One of my favorite episodes! It was perfect
I thought this episode up until the end was cool, and then I realized they hid everyone in a literal cemetery against people who turn the dead into monsters
One would think with Bran's ability to Worg, he would've found some animals to contribute to the fight. All he does is sit with his eyes rolled back and "watching" with ravens. Seriously? The writers could've given him more of a role in the fight than the bait.
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“It can mean Prince or Princess.”
D&D: Nah
Check the "Brand is the Night King theory".
Lady Mormont went out like a G!
Y'all have been putting in WORK and I'm here for it!
THANK YOU SEAN!! Good to see you around here man, hope you're doing well brother. - Cam
Man this is such a stunning episode! You’re right though, it was dark as hell. I’m glad your brightness is higher so I could watch along better with you!
Plot armor was insane in this episode.
this is where the plot armor for all the main characters becomes annoying
Arya 👏👏👏👏💪💪💪💪.
Pointy End.😏😏
Can, you drive me nuts with all your moving 😂. You always have to be doing something and moving. Your fingers, drinking, your phone. I'm the same way and I drive myself nuts 😂. I wonder what that is 🤔. Love you both. I can't believe the GOT reactions are almost over 😢
I'm diagnosed with ADHD, lol Demica gets on me about it all the time lmao - Cam
Gotcha brother. ❤
Zzzzz episode
mormont line goated
In the books it’s heavily implied that Jon is Azor Ahai. The prince that was promised. The books needed when Jon was stabbed and died at castle black…That’s where the books ended, so we’ve been waiting for 10 years to find out what happens next. In my opinion Theon, Jamie and the Sandor have the best character arcs in the show. Theon redeemed himself defending Bran. As far as Jamie and Sandor I won’t spoil it.
The darkness gives you more anxiety..that’s the whole point plus they use candles as lights..what did people expect..street lights outside..
RIP to the unsullied that had pass……song bird, red coyote, cricket, little fish, desert plant and for those that had some weird ass names.🤟🏽
Theon was the only death I cried over..he fought in that gods wood..that’s what you call character development!!
We all thought that this is the episode the W.W would talk, and tell us wtf they want. And what those symbols were.😂
God forbid they use the Forest as stopgap and stack many barriers to slow down the undead horde.
Arya is NOT the main character. The showrunners admitted they took the NK kill away from Jon to “subvert expectations” (meaningful story be damned), but the real reason was that the wanted the new Star Wars franchise and the SW producers made it known they were all about the Me Too girl power bandwagon. So now we are left with this travesty. Btw, the Prince Who Was Promised can only be a Targaryen, as finally confirmed by George in HotD. People who think the mention in HotD was retconning, are mistaken; it was a corrective of one of the worst storytelling screwups of all time.
Not sure anyone told you the rule but if you aren’t on screen you can’t die. So everyone survived by the cutaway shot. 5 undead coming for Dany? Cut away. Brienne about to die? Cutaway. Its all good. 🙄 pretty sure a child could have made better battle plans. Crypts? Good idea. Yes our enemy raises the dead but… you can’t think of everything. Can’t even watch this shit with reactions.
rewatching it just makes it more of a terrible episode omg
they didn't knew what to do with the Others plot 💀
The damn butchers boy in season 1 probably put up a better fight than the night king... So much for the "big threat" that loomed large over 70+ episodes lol
You really think season 7 episode 6 was the dopiest for trying to capture one of the dead?
My top 5 dopiest moments were:
1- The dagger of all daggers, the most precious dagger in Westoros was in the hands of a nobody assassin to kill Bran. It was so stupid, that the writing had to make the wisest men in Winterfell to appear like clowns, for never questioning on why would a high lord lend such a rare weapon to leave a crumb trail to himself, it's not as if it was the only weapon that can kill Bran. Was there even another Vaelaryan Steel Dagger left in all of Westoros?
2- Mance telling Jon that he sent 400 Wildlings to climb a deserted stretch of the wall not far from Castle Black, after he learned how weak the defenses were. Ever hear how the 50 remaining leaderless men at Castle Black defeated the 400 Wildlings? Why bother mentioning it in the show, if you don't follow up on what happened? Stannis & Jon arrive at Castle Black without any evidence that a new battle went on.
3- Syrio Ferel the supposed Dancing Master who forgot to pick up a steel sword off the ground to take on Sir Meryn Trant who was in armor, instead, he took 3 steps forward with a wooden sword. Just one episode removed from when Bronn took on an armored knight in the Vale, danced around the knight, picked at his weak points & whooped his ass. Dancing Master or dancing fool?
4-The Unsullied, masters of the short sword & the long spear. Patrolled Mereen, a city with narrow streets, armed with long spears. Long spears are useless in hand to hand combat in tight quarters. Does one become a master of a weapon when they don't know when to properly use it? Grey worm should of been fired for not making sure that they were armed with short swords, on why they got their asses kicked with guys in masks. This was sort of like the Navy Seals getting whooped by Somali pirates in combat.
5- The end of season 2, Sam cowering behind a rock, steps away from a Whitewalker on a horse, who calls out the charge. The start of season 3, the Night's Watch put the finishing touches on the undead. The million dollar question was, for what possible reason would the Whitewalker retreat? The Night's watch did not possess any Valaryan Steel, fire doesn't work on Whitewalkers & it wasn't till episodes later that Sam kills the first Whitewalker in thousands of years, using Dragonglass, ONLY AFTER using his regular sword that just shattered on him. Sort of like Superman taking off the moment he sees people with a butter knife.
D&D would later tell us it was a kryptonite butter knife
"how do they continue the season after this" was what we all thought at the time... this episode was mostly good, but frankly the ending was a big WTF and then the rest of the season took a big tumble into a flaming shit pile after this hahaha. This episode was impossible to watch without turning the brightness up. I actually paused it, turned the brightness way up, then restarted it.
This is when officially the show became badly written fanfiction, just an embarrassing waste of time for anyone with a brain
Sadly, GoTs story line was changed by the HBO directors to reflect today's modern "girl power" nonsense and greatly diminished the death of the Night King by having him killed by Arya. Jon Snow is the prince that was promised. So many series today and movies have been completely ruined by the woke nonsense.
To me, it didn't even have to be Jon as long as it made any sense at all. It being Arya felt a little to random to be a satisfying payoff to me
Jesus Christ...it had zero to do with wokeness. It was just shitty writing. I bet you were apoplectic at the end of season 6 when it appeared it was going to be a showdown for the Iron Throne between Cersei and Dany. I don't understand why the idea of inclusivity brings out people's inner bigotry.
The "girl power" thing is definitely not woke or feminist, it's this empty attempt to seem all enlightened by just inserting a girl or woman into some cool or powerful moment, rather than writing a story which naturally includes or builds to moments where women or girls are powerful or are the heroes. The complaint is more that with a couple of very minor in-episode adjustments, it could have been anyone that took out the Night King and it would have roughly the same or better payoff, but it felt like they chose Arya because she's a girl boss and not because it made sense. It's just lazy.
Edit: Ope, I missed their last line where they definitely whined about wokeness. Adjusted that bit of my comment since it's not applicable
@360recaps True, I did miss the last line so the commenter's intent isn't what I thought. I still think their garbage writing was an example of shoehorning just anyone into the role of the hero and landing on Arya because she was a "bad bitch", so I'm standing by the rest of it
You completely made that up
Dude on the left side make yourself useful.Did she not just do something like lighting?The spears, are you telling her to make yourself useful?Are you serious dude
Yall gotta stop turning the video off when you talk missing all the decent parts 😂