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Jon Arryn wasn't actually trying to hint at the paternity of Joffrey etc. when he said "The seed is STRONG", he just wanted to talk about his favorite HOT D theory before he died.
@@merrittanimation7721 Theory: Robert Strong isn't The Mountain, he's actually the resurrected corpse of Harwin Strong. Qyburn just wanted to bring back his favourite HOT D character.
@@Xumal Well, the Wedding and Jace's birth were in 114 AC and he and Rhaenyra were sleeping with each other up to a little while before the Wedding. I guess it just depends when the Wedding and Jace's birth were in 114.
I think there’s definitely something in that… forget the book, they’re not keeping to ages and timelines on the show. What we do know is Criston didn’t pull out and Rhaenyra may not have drank the tea… the next episode must be pretty soon after as Otto is only now leaving KL. Depending on how soon the wedding came maybe a fortnight before she began to show… we only know Luke’s age in ep10 as 14. Would Jace be 16 as many years as the wedding/conception? Jace’s looks and attitude are different to Luke and Joff. The shot of the three together kneeling says a hell of a lot, Jace takes the opposite knee to his brothers, and has a very different looking wig… I think they wanted to leave the option open just depends whether or not that’s the story they want to tell
My theory is that Viserys's message to Daemon when he was fighting on the Stepstones went something like: "I'm sending troops to help if you need it. ~Viserys PS: Beat up the messenger. It will be hilarious."
@@sleepyyam5391 Nah I think that's Aegon, Aemond was born sometime in the episode 5-6 timeskip, so he was 10ish when he lost his eye, 6 year skip to episode 8 then makes him 16 or 17 at most by the end of the series - I think he might be older in the books but I'm not 100% on that
@@Emrecof In the book he's 19 when Viserys dies, in the show he's 18 according to the notes from the casting director. Young Aemond is twelve and Jace 10 so the timeskip is more around 13 years rather than ten.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior Sooo you’re telling me that miss Alicent squirted out three different babies in three years ? Helaena was the baby that was having bad dreams that Alicent was comforting.
Not gonna lie, I’ve recently felt Shwifty losing some focus and starting to go on the occasional, albeit brief, tangent. Thank God he now spends more time with Glidus to keep him on track.
Glidus knowing Daemon eats in episode 6 can’t possibly be related to the fact that he has yet to upload episode 6 blisstake and has probably done a lot of editing
Theory: Aegon I made up a prophecy about whitewalkers and ice-zombies to invade a continent, only to find out later that these things are actually real.
He heard about the northern legends about the Long Night and thought “that’s a great way to justify conquest” and now his descendants have to deal with the consequences
Aegon, self-centred conqueror that he is, then assumes he is clearly An Actual Prophet and not just someone with a dragon to backup having intermediate reading comprehension.
GRRM greatest achievement is slightly hinting that bran can time travel/influence the past. It is the manure that so many wonderfully terrible theories grow in.
George has mastered the art of providing an extremely small amount of possible information in order to keep fans busy while he doesnt write the next book.
GRRM has also said the solution for the ending is in the first book. What if it's actually in the first chapter? Maybe they _were_ meant to have them...
That and characters with fake identities, some of them with confirmed glamour. Or fake deaths. Or real deaths that end in resurrections. Crackpot theories are inevitable.
What if the ending is that Bran time travels and stops himself discovering Cersei and Jamie, and thus young Bran goes to kings landing and distracts Ned at just the right time so he never finds out either, and the entire events of the books don't happen anymore. Danny gets successfully poisoned, Theon enlists Robb to help murder Euron before he takes over the Iron Islands, Stannis forgets the throne and just leads his bannermen north to defeat the Others (and so really is AA), and Young Griff dies never knowing he is important. Also Loris makes Renly bust hands free. All loose ends tied, your welcome.
Any hint of time travel (specifically backwards) in a story not specifically revolving around time travel (à la Terminator, some of Martin's other works, Dr. Who) is and will always be trash. Just opens soooo many options for "but why didn't they travel to X point in time" and the whole story just becomes a clusterf* of "whatifs". Also too easy a tool/shortcut to resolve the plot. Avengers tethers the line there for me. At least we knew about a "time" stone and it is a reasonable assumption given the powers of the other stones, despite not really seeing it in action in that way (backwards time travel).
0:00 Intro: Alt Shwift XXX horny Christmas song 1:49 Theory 1 | Aegon Shenanigans Targaryen’s Prophetic Excuses 12:50 Theory 2 | Aegon 1 did not give a f*** 19:44 Theory 3 | Bart & King Joe invented the Prophecy 40:41 Theory 4 | Alicent half Targaryen 54:40 Theory 5 | Jace is Crispin’s Son Sin Cos 8:05 Arya Rayder Targaryen 26:19 Tywin horses around 31:44 Will Glimbus eat TWoW? 35:50 Mance is Lann 38:42 (Not So) Secret Tunnel 39:39 Alt Shwift X is a horse 45:14 Pyramids were built by Chinese Dragon Riders 50:25 Kinky S** Advice 50:55 Will Larys ever get the Toes 53:07 Caraxes Dragon Centipede Im tired... someone take over =P
1:49 Theory 1 | Aegon's Prophecy is propaganda 12:50 Theory 2 | Aegon I had no biological children 19:44 Theory 3 | Barth and Jaehaerys made up the Prophecy 40:41 Theory 4 | Alicent is Saera's daughter 54:40 Theory 5 | Jace is Criston's son 1:03:26 Theory 6 | Ashara is dead 1:05:42 Theory 7 | Harwin is a Greenseer and warged Corlys 1:13:51 Theory 8 | Larys was Harwin's Greensight apprentice 1:15:08 Theory 9 | Vhagar influences Aemond's mind 1:27:09 Theory 10 | Helaena x Aemond 1:40:13 Theory 11 | Crab-On (everyone is the Crabfeeder) 1:48:04 Theory 12 | The Maesters rigged the Great Council 1:55:19 Theory 13 | Bran and Bloodraven are time travelling skinchangers 2:04:20 Theory 14 | Viserys is Viserys 2:10:35 Theory 15 | Children of the Forest made the Valyrians 2:14:21 Theory 16 | the Faceless Men caused the Doom 2:16:49 *SPOILER ZONE, DO NOT WATCH* 2:17:29 Theory 17 | The Whents descend from Alys Rivers Theory 18 | Rhaenyra is a parallel to the Amethyst Empress 2:22:55 Theory 19 | the Maesters are employing the Faceless Men 2:26:09 Theory 20 | Nissa Nissa was the last dragon 2:29:55 Theory 21 | Mysaria is Melisandre 2:40:07 Theory 22 | Viserys II is Maelor 2:46:13 Theory 23 | Jace and Cregan will discuss the Prophecy 2:52:49 Theory 24 | Rhaena will claim a wild dragon 2:57:24 Theory 25 | Laenor or Rhaena will claim Seasmoke 3:00:26 Theory 26 | Mysaria caused the "Heir for a Day" incident 3:07:46 Theory 27 | Jon isn't dead 3:09:14 Theory 28 | Every Great House can skinchange 3:11:57 Theory 29 | Marwyn x Mirri 3:12:18 Theory 30 | Everything in HotD happens by accident 3:18:15 Theory 31 | Daemon is the Night King 3:20:50 Theory 32 | Daemon is Coldhands 3:23:51 Theory 33 | Daemon is Nettles' father, Daemon x Nettles 3:30:17 Theory 34 | Jace, Sara Snow and the Prophecy 3:32:52 Theory 35 | the Daznak Pit locusts had gone bad 3:33:23 Theory 36 | Maester Vaegon started the Grand Maester Conspiracy 3:34:25 Theory 37 | Cannibalism is Vhagar's fetish 3:35:16 Theory 38 | The Cannibal is still alive 3:41:47 Theory 39 | Borros Baratheon warged into Vhagar There, done. Thanks for the head start, Neko, and glad to help.
@Alt Schwift X The theory that Aemond is the father of Helaena's kids doesnt come from how he wants to be king, or that he said he'd be willing to marry her & do his duty in that one convo. Although those points strengthen the theory! It's the part where when they are looking for his brother, Aegon... Aemond says something about he'd be next in line! Or how he assumes with Aegon out of the way, he'd be the one put on the throne! As if Aegon's kids do not exist! Those kids would be next in line, not Aemond! *UNLESS THEY ARE HIS KIDS* and not Aegon's! That's where the theory came from. 🤍
Oops, I forgot a timestamp. 2:19:04 Rhaenyra is a parallel to the Amethyst Empress. Up to you whether you want to add it back in or leave it be, it's pretty minor. And no problem, thank you for the hours of free, hilarious and Westeros-themed entertainment. Hope we get one of these for Glidus's 100K as well!
Theory: The reason the "Hour of the Wolf" lasts for longer than an hour is that Cregan Stark is a time travelling Targaryen horse-fetus and thus space time is warped and behaves weirdly.
Two lovers, forbidden from one another A war divides their people And a family divides them apart Built a path to be together Yeah, and I forget the next couple lines but uh, then it goes Secret tunnel Secret tunnel Through the red keep Secret, secret, secret, secret Secret tunnel Secret tunnel Through thе red keep Secret, secrеt, secret, secret tunnel, yeah!
Something, something, secret ways, Ravens, Corn Kings, Walder Frey, Lemon cakes and salty stones, Myrish Swamps and broken bones. I know, I know, we do not sow, we sink we drown, we rot below. What is dead can never fight, unless you're with the Lord of Light, something, something, Tower of Joy, drown the clown, kill the boy, Winter is coming, Wyman's getting fat, King's blood, Dragon eggs, Jorah's still a twat.
That would be a show with some dark credits. I imagine an audience full of lonely, middle aged, Selyse-like fanatics that jump at the chance to be chosen to burn at the end.
I know it sounds silly but in regards to the Jace-Criston theory in the show; they're also actively straightening Jace's hair against the curly locks of Harwin and his brothers, which is quite weird since it really doesn't fit the actor and kinda stands out.
I love the theories that are technically not impossible but add absolutely nothing to the story. Like saying the crab feeder faked his death and then when fighting in the step stones started again two decades later it was still the crab feeder 😂 or the one where rob stark wargs into his wolf after he dies because the wolf is killed seconds later
My absolute favorite theory is Robb Stark being Brandon's bastard. It changes literally nothing because everyone who could possibly reveal it, or care, is dead, but I just think it's neat. Similar situation with Tywin being behind Joffrey's murder.
Aegon's prophecy didn't say "From my *sperm* come the prince that was promised..." . His sisters are of the same blood as he is, so technically his bloodline lives on. Even if it's through his sisters lol
How do you know!? You don’t speak high Valyrian. For all we know the Valyrian word for sperm and blood are the same word like prince and princess. And the real title of the book is Fire and Sperm !
I really like a theory of mine that Jon's real name is Viserys to complete the trio of Aegon, Rhaenys, and Visenya, and I think that George's love of show Viserys makes that theory even more likely
@@traumer9622that would actually be a fun narrative pun, since in the first book just before her wedding to Drogo Dany thinks about how she always thought she’d marry Viserys. And if Jon’s real name is Viserys, and Dany gets with him, it’s gonna be one of the longest running jokes in ASOIAF
Cold hands warged into Helaena’s centipede, but they don’t have hands just feet, cold feet is a phrase that means apprehension, usually about marriage, foreshadowing that she and Aegon will have an unhappy marriage… and who is Cold Hands… Ashara Dayne. Finally, I can call myself a GoT theorist.
1:17:31 this point would be interesting for a semi theory as to why Visarys didn’t take another dragon after Balerion! He has always been a peaceful guy, not liking to push buttons and never waging a war during his rule. Maybe after claiming and riding Balerion, he saw the side of where dragons take over one’s mind/behavior/personality and didn’t like it, so just stayed dragon-less after Balerion’s passing
My theory as to why they found Aemond's body and not Daemon, is because Aemond's body floats due to his balls being empty from all the milf sex he has, and Daemon sinks because his balls are so full because he can't get it up
I'm glad that you guys confirmed the theory that Marwyn and Mirri did the dirty. Now I can create further theories that presuppose this. Time to go through the list of characters who might be their children...
Danaerys, obviously. Let me explain . . . . Big wheel keep on turning (Danaerys wants to break the wheel) Proud Mirri keep on burning (You have to burn the [your] mother to become the mother . . . of dragons) George RR Martin is a big CCR fan, it is known.
Theory: Harwin Strong actually warged into Greywind from the past right before he was killed at the Red Wedding, stopping Robb Stark from warging into Greywind so Robb actually ended up inside Corlys’ head
I think it would be interesting to see if there was a change in viseris' personality after balerion died and how connecting with the most powerful dragon effected him. Perhaps his views of the illusion of control were formed from his freedom from the optessive control of balerion
Shift mentioned in a livestream the idea that something about bonding with balerion really shook Viserys and that’s why he’s so cautious about dragons and never tried to bond with a second one
Isn't it canon that riders can only have one dragon in their life? Like the dragon can take another rider if the rider dies but the rider will only wver ride one dragon?
I think the Vhaegar makes Aemond evil makes sense. Dragons have different personalities just like humans and Vhaegar has had the most riders so far, she might start to become immune to submitting to a riders will, especially when she's had strong minded riders before and now she was claimed by a confused and resentful teenager, she would easily be able to overpower a mind like that and just do what feels natural to her, she is used to war and destruction after all. And who knows maybe dragons absorb some of their previous rider's personalities and feelings too, Visenya was said to have a darkness to her that could stick with Vhaegar. If you compare Daemon's bond to Caraxes you can see that Daemon's mind is so strong that he doesn't even have to command Caraxes, they are pretty much one mind.
The time travelling blackfyre supporter is a reference to a moment in hot d in episode 1 where the person announcing the tourney is wearing a targ sigil in inverted colours and everyone was like ‘omg blackfyre!!!’
Has anyone done a theory about Jace's time in the North and maybe fathering a child who enters the Stark line, thereby making Arya a secret Targaryen and making the prophecy about the Others true? I'd be shocked if no one has, because it seems ripe for insane conspiracy mongering and tying the shows together Edit: typed this literally 3 minutes before they said exactly that lmao
its hilarious how as a watcher of the show, with no book reading at all, you can clearly tell where george's writing stopped and d&d started. its so bad
Theory: George rr Martin pulled an ultimate game of thrones betrayal by lying to D&D about the ending. They got barely anything if anything at all accurate.
@@merrittanimation7721 well other than the fact that the night king doesnt exist in books, dumb and dumber chose arya as the one to kill him just to subvert expectations, thats literally it
If Aemond hadn't decided to torment Lucerys and instead just allowed him to fly home, he would not have accidentally killed him. Aemond is fully responsible.
If Luke and Jace hadn’t gone to find out what Aemond was doing the fight wouldn’t have happened… If Rhaenyra and Alicent hasn’t decided father and uncle marrying was weird they’d be friends still and the Dance wouldn’t have happened. If Viserys wasn’t old and ill he wouldn’t have died and started the Dance. In reality it’s Viserys fault for dying anyway.
@@lordbonney9779tbf it's not that father marrying, it's that your dad marries your best friend of your age. The age differences even in real life were only occasionally tolerated to create peace, exclusively between royalty/aristocracy
Waking up to a new Schwifty & Glimbo stream is just about the best way to start the day. Edit: Thanks for expanding on my little Crabfeeder = Daemon tinfoil.
Mysaria's accent is the showrunners asking the actress to imitate Shae. There it was her real accent though so it's understandably hard it copy but idk why they kept it after hearing it.
2:10:36 The connections you need to make is children of the forest have cataclysmic magic and the Doom was destroyed by presumably cataclysmic magic. Last hero met with children and something happened to turn the tide. Azor Ahai is known as the Son of Fire. If you connect the dots, it goes something like this: Children created the Others to fight against the First Men. They went out of control. Last hero seeked the children out and received their help after making a promise. This created the first Valyrian, the son of fire, Azor Ahai. The Others were pushed back. The promise was to destroy the son of fire to prevent the firebloods from growing out of control just like what happened with the Others. Azor Ahai died, but survived either through blood or through stolen magic and settled far away from the greenseers sight. Valyrian Freehold came to existence only right after the Long Night. This is not a coincidence. They conquered Essos which resulted in the Andal migration, and finally the word reached the deepest forests in Westeros. Once the children heard of the dragonlords in the East, they also learned about the betrayal. They gathered together and did their modus operandi, blood sacrificed their race to near extinction to summon the Doom to save the planet. But one family survived. And seeing how that family conquered the entire Westeros with just 3 members, you can understand why their magically engineered blood is too dangerous to exist.
Jace is a Cole: 1 - Looks like him, no curly hair 2 - Cole’s ultimatum on the boat hints as multiple hook ups with Rhaenera 3 - She didn’t drink the moon tea 4 - Viserys pushed the shotgun wedding after Joffrey was killed because he knew Rhaenera was pregnant and didn’t drink the tea 5 - Jace is 9-10 after the 10 year time jump
I like to think the Song of Ice and Fire was a century in the making from Aegon's actual dream to the story Viserys tells Rhaenyra. Maybe his dream was just of an army of Others, and was one part of why he chose to invade Westeros (I imagine he told Visenya and she used it to convince him, since her ambition seems to be the driving force behind a lot of Aegon's actions later). The idea that Aegon had this dream is general knowledge in the family. Later, Jaehaerys looks into it with Barth, creates the knife, and codifies the myth of the prophecy and its importance. He tells most of his family, but since they all die sooner or later, the last person he tells is Viserys. Viserys then thinks it's some secret sacred king-to-heir imperative because everyone else who also knew the story was gone.
I feel like....the idea of Cole being Jace's real dad might be a change that shorunners with "planning" might introduce in later seasons, because we did not see the "dead body" that was the empty cup of moon-tea. I think that will come back around, it stood out too much to me. And from the other small changes that we've seen under George's watch so far, I think this is well within something that you could change for the sake of "TV show drama" that wouldn't really change the lore in the long run. I think they'll do it, if they're smart.
Not to mention Queen Alysanne's Dragon acted as though he sensed the darkness growing beyond the wall "veering off" whenever she tried to fly past. Didn't stop Dany from doing it 200 years later but you know....
Bloodraven was the boar AND the hart. He time traveled back to kill Rhaenyra as the boar, only for the experience to turn her into the crazy evil Rhaenyra in Fire and Blood, then he went back in time again to try and prevent the events of Fire and Blood by sending the white hart, thus creating the differences between Fire and Blood and HOTD.
Guys, that baby didn't look like it had grayscale, it looked 2 months early And can we take a second to appreciate the imagery of a Lannister spear taking out the heart of a hart?
The one thing i like about the haelena/aemond theory is that in ep... 6 or 7? Larys and Alicent have a talk about Viserys' willful ignorance about his grandson's bastardy and Larys tells Alicent something like "You'd do the same in that situation" and she's like "noooo". I think it would be deliciously ironic for her to have completely ignored the bastards in her own family because she was too wrapped up in her own thing.
my schizo take on the Great Empire of the Dawn Dayne/Hightower/Valyrian stuff is that the violet eyed blondes weren't the dragon masters of the dawn but actually genetically/blood magicked engineered experiments or thralls. Valyrian dragon blood was a project to create an alternative to binding magic through horns and sorcery.
You were talking about the gods and the boar. I think Jon "hearing" the dire wolf pups (twice) was the absolutely the work of the old gods. Osha indicates that they're subtle, we saw how Ned reacted, Jon reacted similarly.
I like the Faceless Men destroying the 14 Flames theory, it’s nowhere near enough degrees of separation to lose meaning. Otherwise literally any rebellion has no meaning because it’s the result of some other stuff. Making things more direct just makes it more on the nose.
I like it too because the faceless men get into the game by killing Targaryen and that's how they're gonna leave. I just imagine that old Valerya had flame sorcerer's or something like to control the volcano and whatever power source was inside it and when they killed these 14 flames the source went out of control. Seems legit.
Building off of the theory that Aegon I had no biological children, I like the theory that some form of proof that Aegon was infertile may have been what was in Nymor Martell’s letter. The Dornish had been warring against the Targaryens for years. After Rhaenys was supposedly killed, Aegon doubled down in his attempted conquest. Then suddenly, one letter that Aegon burned and never talked about again ended it all. If the Martells could somehow prove that Aegon’s children were illegitimate, it may have proven to be the smoking gun that ended Aegon’s dynasty before it began. Hence, he opted to leave them alone and pray the secret didn’t get out before his children had children and the idea was forgotten. Thing is, what was in that letter is such a massive question mark in the history of Westeros that you’d imagine it would be answered at some point. And it very well could in the future if the Martells have passed the secret down through their generations. Maybe at some point soon, the Martells will be motivated to reveal the secret and question the overall rights of the Targaryens. Said reveal could be pretty eye opening for Daenerys as well considering all her talk about her blood right to the Iron Throne. Depending on execution, that information could be a catalyst for serious character alteration for Daenerys. This is all super speculative. But I like the theory since there’s a way it could come to fruition in the future story, and it adds a bit more to the theory of Aegon being infertile other than Rhaenys liked singers and Aegon didn’t much like Visenya.
It's a lot of fun listening to you fellows, At one point I became very confused. I found myself thinking, "Wait a minute, I thought the boar that killed Robert Baratheon was a horse!" Help me, Glidus!
a not particularly strong theory I’ve come up with but nevertheless like is that Rhaegar named Jon and named him after JonCon. Like the logistics of Rhaegar naming Jon are already a bit clunky given Rhaegar was already very dead by the time Lyanna gave birth and the only one who could’ve respected his choice for a name is Lyanna who was also one foot in the grave by the time Jon was born. On top of that, as much as Rhaegar did seem to be close with JonCon naming one of his children after him is a pretty significant deal and whilst JonCon was definitely 100% in love with Rhaegar we don’t know if Rhaegar knew that and how he reacted if he did at all. On top of all this, the much stronger candidate for who Jon was named after is obviously Ned naming him for Jon Arryn, he is even already Jon’s namesake in one of his given conceptions, but I still really enjoy the idea of Rhaegar naming Jon after that there hot griffin boytoy of his (especially since JonCon was potentiall in exile at the point Rhaegar chose the name, so any fondness Rhaegar might have for him would be amplified by the knowledge he was now gone)
I like the theory that faceless caused the doom. Like, it speaks that you can exploit nature as you please, but if you exploit people too much, they will plot your death even at the cost of their own lives.
To weigh in on viserys being maelor: Maelor was smuggled out of Kings landing by Larys Strong, which happened after the disappearance of Viserys. Larys strong isn't exactly trustworthy, and might have lied about the boy he sent with ser rickard Thorne so that he could hold the real heir to the throne, which would in turn help him since by then aegon II is a crippled, broken, probably dying man, so if he holds the true king of westeros, then that means he's got all the cards. It would also explain why he ultimately helps corlys betray Aegon, since doing it for the blacks wouldn't make much sense since they would lop off his head anyway (as they actually did). But if he had Maelor in lys, he could manoeuvre him onto the throne instead of aegon III, ensuring a green victory where he is the regent until king Maelor is of age.
About Aemond x Helaena- The scene where Alicent comes to talk to her while the twins are in the room, Aemond comes in and is SURPRISED to see Alicent. Then he and Helaena share a look. So…why was he coming up there so causally? Aemond starts getting mad and uncomfortable when Jace and Helaena dance together. “I would do my duty 😤” scene adds to it if you’re seeing it at that angle.
It was stated in the books that Aemond was more fatherly towards the children of Helaena than Aegon. He loved spending time with his "nephew's and nieces."
I very much enjoy that this fandom is fully leaning into "that Aegon Dream do be sussy" because Conquerors Are Unreliable Narrators. My best guesses for who made up this family myth were Visenya and/or Jaehaerys. Visenya could have fed the line to her son to encourage him to usurp his brother's children - Maegor acted out a lot but was wholly loyal to Aenys, in Aenys' lifetime (just like Daemon was to Viserys). Actually, the Daemon/Viserys dynamic mirrors the Maegor/Aenys one almost completely (the slashes are intentional). I remain morbidly fascinated by how consistent the royal line of Targs goes too hard on the "love your family" thing. Is the incestuousness taught and encouraged from birth, regardless of gender? Is it so normalized in their families that the kids just assume Interest when any other sibling would recognise that, no, familial protectiveness and friendship is not the same as "undying romantic love". The sense of entitlement to their siblings' attention, in Maegor and Daemon, seems to match up with the traditional Targcest thing anyway.
@@roronoalaw7772 Royal bastards & forced marriages aside, Targaryens seem consistently loyal to their siblings. These loyalties sometimes extend to wives and nieces (typically with a goal of marrying said niece for political gain). These loyalties almost NEVER extend to nephews: the most dangerous person for a young Targaryen prince was typically their uncle. That's something that goes from Maegor and Daemon right to Robert Baratheon (though he was more technically a "cousin something removed" to Rhaella & Elia's children).
@@BattyButtercup The only problem with prophecy being made up is that The Others really appeared and attacked. So even if the prophecy is not fully correct and could be changed in favor of Targaryens, therr is still a lot of truth in it. And as Targaryens seem to be the only ones who know, the prophecy or at least part of it is real.
@@BattyButtercup Unless they knew it from Torrhen Stark who knelt and used it to build their own myths. And Starks legend could be lost with death Neds father, but yeah thats a tinfoil theory, just a thought.
@@mjm1677 the Long Night exists in the folk lore and mythology in [planetos]: while planning their conquest of the North specifically, it's likely that Visenya would have been able to throw enough comparative mythology together to imply knowledge of the Long Night experienced in Westeros. TLN was a global event, fought on multiple fronts or at multiple points in time: the Valyrian Freehold would doubtlessly have records collected on it just from all the conquering they did. I think I'm pushing the lengths of Occam's Razor by now but, initially, my thinking was that you don't need magic to ascertain something that can be learned by, say, going to your private library or bribing a maester.
2:51:30 well theres some sort of thermal activity under Winterfell, and we know they hatch dragon eggs in/by volcanoes. So placing a dragon egg deep in the crypts seems like the best place to put a dragon egg in the north
Omgggg a new one. I want you guys to know that your content collaboratively and solo has become the highlight of my dragon show fandom. And I’d totally be down to listen to you riff on other content. 🙏💰💸
What about the theory that Preston Jacobs breaks the fourth wall from this side, and covertly controls all Magical events/Warging just to trick GRRM into confirming that PJ is Azor Ahai, The Lord of Light, the Drowned God, Red Rh'llor, Garth Greenseer Bloodraven, and all Seven of The Seven?
Crack theory, but maybe the Valyrian steel dagger inscription is literal, so that when Alicent cut Rhaenyra it was literally "From [this dagger's blood] come the prince that was promised" so potentially Aegon saw the literal dagger as an essential instrument to the defeat of the Night King bc the bar is SO LOW when it comes to satisfying narrative writing for GoT shows now
I doubt anyone will ever see this but your four-skin joke made me think of high school which here in NZ used to run from Form 3 to Form 7. The year before I started there one of the teachers was named Mr Skin and as everyone had a set "Form class" for attendance and stuff you would say that you were in, for example, 5 Rogers (5th form with Mr/s Rogers). For whatever reason, given that they could have given Mr Skin a class from any other year, they gave him a 4th form class called (of course) 4 Skin.
More Alt Schwift X Glidus livestreams here! th-cam.com/play/PLxAgTVUFl31juN7xnswAoawYVMOyprqYg.html
For sure these 2 guys are hilarious
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"Aegon does 0 parenting" excuse me, Aegon takes his children to the local sports club in flea bottom and cheers him on
Based
Choose Sports vs. War. Sports wins= Aegon big brain
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Theory: the saddest death of the Winds of Winter will be Glidus after he eats the book
There’s plenty of fiber in those pages
The dude that ate paper every day until pikmin 4 came out was alive for long tho
@@manuxx3543 Since when did Pikmin 4 come out?
@@HOTD108_ yep "was alive for long"
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Theory: the kingsguards Arryk and Erryk were switched at birth
but they warged into each other's bodies later
Lmao
It all makes sense now 😂
And they’re horses right!
I mean there are two sets of twins in this show. It would be crazy if no shenanigans happened.
Theory: the debris that fell on Harwin Strong was the same debris that fell on Jaime and Cersei
The s̶e̶e̶d̶ ceiling is strong.
True true
Hard no. Those were the ideas in the form of dried out turds left over from GOT
Every few generations, the ghosts of the Red Keep's builders put that debris back into the ceiling so it can fall & kill again. It's Tradition.
The debris warged through time into the red keep debris
Jon Arryn wasn't actually trying to hint at the paternity of Joffrey etc. when he said "The seed is STRONG", he just wanted to talk about his favorite HOT D theory before he died.
Joffrey is a secret STRONG boy confirmed
@@MollyFC And Robert Strong is his father.
@@merrittanimation7721 Theory: Robert Strong isn't The Mountain, he's actually the resurrected corpse of Harwin Strong. Qyburn just wanted to bring back his favourite HOT D character.
@@HOTD108_ I love it!
Now hold on you might be onto something
Theory: Glidus is GRRM's bastard son, and inherited a genetic incapability of finishing series
you’re suggesting that he inherited this trait from Phyllis then?
The entire book series is actually aegon’s dream and at the end of ADOS it’s just gonna be aegon waking up on dragon stone like “well shit”
The show was the dream.
“You know what sisters let’s not invade Westeros. It will go badly”
😂
@Merritt Animation “Let’s not go to Westeros, it is a silly place.”
-Aegon, probably
Which AEGON?
"It's only visible when you put the knife in fire" "that's some Harry Potter shit, right there"
J.R.R. Tolkien: Am I a joke to you?
The one ring doesn't convey a message, the script is deliberately hidden so no-one knows how important it is.
Tolkien: PUT SUM RESPEK ON MA NAME
@@lostalone9320ok nerd
@@lostalone9320 so what's the point of the script if it isn't meant to be read?
@@FringeSpectre side effect/remnant of the magic involved in its creation? that's pure speculation on my part tho
Jace being Criston’s son is one of my favorite theories, not because I think it’s true but because I think it would be some delicious dramatic irony.
does the timeline work? if so id be happy with it.
@@Xumal Well, the Wedding and Jace's birth were in 114 AC and he and Rhaenyra were sleeping with each other up to a little while before the Wedding. I guess it just depends when the Wedding and Jace's birth were in 114.
I think there’s definitely something in that… forget the book, they’re not keeping to ages and timelines on the show. What we do know is Criston didn’t pull out and Rhaenyra may not have drank the tea… the next episode must be pretty soon after as Otto is only now leaving KL. Depending on how soon the wedding came maybe a fortnight before she began to show… we only know Luke’s age in ep10 as 14. Would Jace be 16 as many years as the wedding/conception? Jace’s looks and attitude are different to Luke and Joff. The shot of the three together kneeling says a hell of a lot, Jace takes the opposite knee to his brothers, and has a very different looking wig… I think they wanted to leave the option open just depends whether or not that’s the story they want to tell
Theory: The Dragon Show Jaime WAS the Valonqar because he stopped Cersei from taking two steps to the right away from the falling rocks
That just sounds like an accident with extra steps, *No pun intended originally but now it is intended*
The Valonqar prophecy wasn't in the show, so it shouldn't be relevant when discussing show lore. It's strictly book only.
@@HOTD108_ until it becomes retroactively canon after being mentioned in the future Snow Show
@@fildariusv7045 yk🍆🍆🍆🍆😘😅
Jaime Lannister Is Still Alive Clown Club™ still at it in 2023 let's go!!
This is how you get people believing in flat horse theory.
i hate that i laughed at this
@@Glidus I'm proud to say I laughed myself hoarse
@@brahimdiop5506 Brahim Diop is a horse confirmed
@@brahimdiop5506 you could say that you are ahoarse
I feel like a skyrim guard "you never should've done this"
I misread a theory as "Vhagar makes Almond Oil" and all I could think was, 'Good on her to have a hobby.'
Hahahaha
My theory is that Viserys's message to Daemon when he was fighting on the Stepstones went something like:
"I'm sending troops to help if you need it. ~Viserys PS: Beat up the messenger. It will be hilarious."
"You beat up the messenger, I will make you hand"
I refuse to believe Daemon read the P.S. part. He just immediately started wailing on the guy.
My favourite thing about Aemond is that, like, his super cool character traits get very recontextialized when you realise he's an edgy 16-year-old
I thought he was 19? At least by the time of the finale
@@sleepyyam5391 Nah I think that's Aegon, Aemond was born sometime in the episode 5-6 timeskip, so he was 10ish when he lost his eye, 6 year skip to episode 8 then makes him 16 or 17 at most by the end of the series - I think he might be older in the books but I'm not 100% on that
@@Emrecof I think Aegon is 21 and Aemond is 19? I’m not 100% sure.
@@Emrecof In the book he's 19 when Viserys dies, in the show he's 18 according to the notes from the casting director. Young Aemond is twelve and Jace 10 so the timeskip is more around 13 years rather than ten.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior Sooo you’re telling me that miss Alicent squirted out three different babies in three years ? Helaena was the baby that was having bad dreams that Alicent was comforting.
"Alicent is Larys' sith apprentice"
Absolutely unparalleled sentence 😂
Not gonna lie, I’ve recently felt Shwifty losing some focus and starting to go on the occasional, albeit brief, tangent.
Thank God he now spends more time with Glidus to keep him on track.
You mean, keep him on the saddle? 'Cause he's a horse?
Glinda is a great addition
@@wtr3059 that’s brilliant!
sometimes true genius needs another true genius to rein it in.
@@npc8346 Indeed but Glimbus really shook things up too.
Glidus knowing Daemon eats in episode 6 can’t possibly be related to the fact that he has yet to upload episode 6 blisstake and has probably done a lot of editing
sshhhh. let them believe i’m a genius.
Don't sshh me, I can't watch hot D without them episodes, get on it chop chop
@@TheUmart you just delayed it another two weeks
@@momo1177 George R. R. Martin has promised to eat Episode 6 Blisstake if it ever comes out.
@@TheUmart this Kind of ironic entitlement is very funny. Thanks for making me laugh😂
Theory: Aegon I made up a prophecy about whitewalkers and ice-zombies to invade a continent, only to find out later that these things are actually real.
He manifested them into reality through his belief
Rhaegar found his scrolls and thought it was so cool that he went north and became the Night King himself
He heard about the northern legends about the Long Night and thought “that’s a great way to justify conquest” and now his descendants have to deal with the consequences
It's like... A selfie filling prophecy... 🤳 🥧 🥠
Aegon, self-centred conqueror that he is, then assumes he is clearly An Actual Prophet and not just someone with a dragon to backup having intermediate reading comprehension.
"You read the WHOLE Wikipedia page?" "Oh I skimmed it." Comedy Gold right there.
GRRM greatest achievement is slightly hinting that bran can time travel/influence the past. It is the manure that so many wonderfully terrible theories grow in.
George has mastered the art of providing an extremely small amount of possible information in order to keep fans busy while he doesnt write the next book.
GRRM has also said the solution for the ending is in the first book. What if it's actually in the first chapter? Maybe they _were_ meant to have them...
That and characters with fake identities, some of them with confirmed glamour.
Or fake deaths. Or real deaths that end in resurrections. Crackpot theories are inevitable.
What if the ending is that Bran time travels and stops himself discovering Cersei and Jamie, and thus young Bran goes to kings landing and distracts Ned at just the right time so he never finds out either, and the entire events of the books don't happen anymore.
Danny gets successfully poisoned, Theon enlists Robb to help murder Euron before he takes over the Iron Islands, Stannis forgets the throne and just leads his bannermen north to defeat the Others (and so really is AA), and Young Griff dies never knowing he is important. Also Loris makes Renly bust hands free. All loose ends tied, your welcome.
Any hint of time travel (specifically backwards) in a story not specifically revolving around time travel (à la Terminator, some of Martin's other works, Dr. Who) is and will always be trash.
Just opens soooo many options for "but why didn't they travel to X point in time" and the whole story just becomes a clusterf* of "whatifs".
Also too easy a tool/shortcut to resolve the plot. Avengers tethers the line there for me. At least we knew about a "time" stone and it is a reasonable assumption given the powers of the other stones, despite not really seeing it in action in that way (backwards time travel).
[Edit: Chapter timestamps added. Thank you!] Thank you for watching Schwiftos & Glimbites!!
I declare that someone to be glidus
0:00 Intro: Alt Shwift XXX horny Christmas song
1:49 Theory 1 | Aegon Shenanigans Targaryen’s Prophetic Excuses
12:50 Theory 2 | Aegon 1 did not give a f***
19:44 Theory 3 | Bart & King Joe invented the Prophecy
40:41 Theory 4 | Alicent half Targaryen
54:40 Theory 5 | Jace is Crispin’s Son
Sin Cos
8:05 Arya Rayder Targaryen
26:19 Tywin horses around
31:44 Will Glimbus eat TWoW?
35:50 Mance is Lann
38:42 (Not So) Secret Tunnel
39:39 Alt Shwift X is a horse
45:14 Pyramids were built by Chinese Dragon Riders
50:25 Kinky S** Advice
50:55 Will Larys ever get the Toes
53:07 Caraxes Dragon Centipede
Im tired... someone take over =P
1:49 Theory 1 | Aegon's Prophecy is propaganda
12:50 Theory 2 | Aegon I had no biological children
19:44 Theory 3 | Barth and Jaehaerys made up the Prophecy
40:41 Theory 4 | Alicent is Saera's daughter
54:40 Theory 5 | Jace is Criston's son
1:03:26 Theory 6 | Ashara is dead
1:05:42 Theory 7 | Harwin is a Greenseer and warged Corlys
1:13:51 Theory 8 | Larys was Harwin's Greensight apprentice
1:15:08 Theory 9 | Vhagar influences Aemond's mind
1:27:09 Theory 10 | Helaena x Aemond
1:40:13 Theory 11 | Crab-On (everyone is the Crabfeeder)
1:48:04 Theory 12 | The Maesters rigged the Great Council
1:55:19 Theory 13 | Bran and Bloodraven are time travelling skinchangers
2:04:20 Theory 14 | Viserys is Viserys
2:10:35 Theory 15 | Children of the Forest made the Valyrians
2:14:21 Theory 16 | the Faceless Men caused the Doom
2:16:49 *SPOILER ZONE, DO NOT WATCH*
2:17:29 Theory 17 | The Whents descend from Alys Rivers
Theory 18 | Rhaenyra is a parallel to the Amethyst Empress
2:22:55 Theory 19 | the Maesters are employing the Faceless Men
2:26:09 Theory 20 | Nissa Nissa was the last dragon
2:29:55 Theory 21 | Mysaria is Melisandre
2:40:07 Theory 22 | Viserys II is Maelor
2:46:13 Theory 23 | Jace and Cregan will discuss the Prophecy
2:52:49 Theory 24 | Rhaena will claim a wild dragon
2:57:24 Theory 25 | Laenor or Rhaena will claim Seasmoke
3:00:26 Theory 26 | Mysaria caused the "Heir for a Day" incident
3:07:46 Theory 27 | Jon isn't dead
3:09:14 Theory 28 | Every Great House can skinchange
3:11:57 Theory 29 | Marwyn x Mirri
3:12:18 Theory 30 | Everything in HotD happens by accident
3:18:15 Theory 31 | Daemon is the Night King
3:20:50 Theory 32 | Daemon is Coldhands
3:23:51 Theory 33 | Daemon is Nettles' father, Daemon x Nettles
3:30:17 Theory 34 | Jace, Sara Snow and the Prophecy
3:32:52 Theory 35 | the Daznak Pit locusts had gone bad
3:33:23 Theory 36 | Maester Vaegon started the Grand Maester Conspiracy
3:34:25 Theory 37 | Cannibalism is Vhagar's fetish
3:35:16 Theory 38 | The Cannibal is still alive
3:41:47 Theory 39 | Borros Baratheon warged into Vhagar
There, done. Thanks for the head start, Neko, and glad to help.
@Alt Schwift X The theory that Aemond is the father of Helaena's kids doesnt come from how he wants to be king, or that he said he'd be willing to marry her & do his duty in that one convo. Although those points strengthen the theory! It's the part where when they are looking for his brother, Aegon... Aemond says something about he'd be next in line! Or how he assumes with Aegon out of the way, he'd be the one put on the throne! As if Aegon's kids do not exist! Those kids would be next in line, not Aemond! *UNLESS THEY ARE HIS KIDS* and not Aegon's! That's where the theory came from. 🤍
Oops, I forgot a timestamp.
2:19:04 Rhaenyra is a parallel to the Amethyst Empress.
Up to you whether you want to add it back in or leave it be, it's pretty minor.
And no problem, thank you for the hours of free, hilarious and Westeros-themed entertainment. Hope we get one of these for Glidus's 100K as well!
Theory: The reason the "Hour of the Wolf" lasts for longer than an hour is that Cregan Stark is a time travelling Targaryen horse-fetus and thus space time is warped and behaves weirdly.
Two lovers, forbidden from one another
A war divides their people
And a family divides them apart
Built a path to be together
Yeah, and I forget the next couple lines but uh, then it goes
Secret tunnel
Secret tunnel
Through the red keep
Secret, secret, secret, secret
Secret tunnel
Secret tunnel
Through thе red keep
Secret, secrеt, secret, secret tunnel, yeah!
Something, something, secret ways, Ravens, Corn Kings, Walder Frey,
Lemon cakes and salty stones, Myrish Swamps and broken bones.
I know, I know, we do not sow, we sink we drown, we rot below.
What is dead can never fight, unless you're with the Lord of Light,
something, something, Tower of Joy, drown the clown, kill the boy,
Winter is coming, Wyman's getting fat,
King's blood, Dragon eggs, Jorah's still a twat.
Time stamp?
@@AshenWednesday Lmao it’s from the Last Airbender
“Magic with Melisandre” sounds like a weird 90’s daytime TV talk show
Either that or a late night segment on the public access channel.
That would be a show with some dark credits. I imagine an audience full of lonely, middle aged, Selyse-like fanatics that jump at the chance to be chosen to burn at the end.
I know it sounds silly but in regards to the Jace-Criston theory in the show; they're also actively straightening Jace's hair against the curly locks of Harwin and his brothers, which is quite weird since it really doesn't fit the actor and kinda stands out.
And the actor hair is naturally curly to and brown
i hope they get rid of jace's yee ass haircut next season, his actor's natural curls are top notch
Cristons hair doesn’t seem straight either, his curls are just more styled
They may just be doing that so we can tell which brother is which more easily.
@@hodgereecemannow it’s way easier to distinguish
In case nobody else has said it yet, the word for Vhagar’s neck thing is “dewlap”
Theory: Alt Schwift X and Glidus have such great chemistry because they are the same guy
Which one is the horse though?
they both warged into the same horse and got stuck like tobias from animorphs
And they’re a time traveling horse that Euron Greyjoy warged into
@@sentientmustache8360 Who is also Tyrek Lannister
@@merrittanimation7721 when we last saw Alt Shwift X, Glumbis, and Tyrek they were the same horse.
Jaehaerys not being a great person but a great King is the type of thing with monarchs, I would say.
I love the theories that are technically not impossible but add absolutely nothing to the story. Like saying the crab feeder faked his death and then when fighting in the step stones started again two decades later it was still the crab feeder 😂 or the one where rob stark wargs into his wolf after he dies because the wolf is killed seconds later
The warg theory only needs Jon to warg in to ghost for it to be proven because Robb says Grey wind before he dies and Jon says ghost
Grey Wind was the name of his childhood sled.
@@lostalone9320 Or, the name of the rock that kills Cersei
My absolute favorite theory is Robb Stark being Brandon's bastard. It changes literally nothing because everyone who could possibly reveal it, or care, is dead, but I just think it's neat. Similar situation with Tywin being behind Joffrey's murder.
@@lostalone9320 Under rated comment! Very clever Lost...!
Aegon's prophecy didn't say "From my *sperm* come the prince that was promised..." . His sisters are of the same blood as he is, so technically his bloodline lives on. Even if it's through his sisters lol
How do you know!? You don’t speak high Valyrian. For all we know the Valyrian word for sperm and blood are the same word like prince and princess. And the real title of the book is Fire and Sperm !
Now, that's a THEORY.@@therumjiggler6879
I really like a theory of mine that Jon's real name is Viserys to complete the trio of Aegon, Rhaenys, and Visenya, and I think that George's love of show Viserys makes that theory even more likely
Now imagine Dany and him actually getting together 😂
@@traumer9622emotional damage
@@traumer9622I'm so immune to it now. It doesn't even make me shudder anymore. Oh what this series has wrought.
@@traumer9622that would actually be a fun narrative pun, since in the first book just before her wedding to Drogo Dany thinks about how she always thought she’d marry Viserys. And if Jon’s real name is Viserys, and Dany gets with him, it’s gonna be one of the longest running jokes in ASOIAF
Aemon would be the best imo, but the most GRRM thing would be Daemon.
Cold hands warged into Helaena’s centipede, but they don’t have hands just feet, cold feet is a phrase that means apprehension, usually about marriage, foreshadowing that she and Aegon will have an unhappy marriage… and who is Cold Hands… Ashara Dayne.
Finally, I can call myself a GoT theorist.
Glidus streams: stays for an hour after the end of the stream to play piano
Shwifty streams: abruptly cuts mid senten-
1:17:31 this point would be interesting for a semi theory as to why Visarys didn’t take another dragon after Balerion! He has always been a peaceful guy, not liking to push buttons and never waging a war during his rule. Maybe after claiming and riding Balerion, he saw the side of where dragons take over one’s mind/behavior/personality and didn’t like it, so just stayed dragon-less after Balerion’s passing
I think canonically a rider can only ever have one dragon, if it dies you're without dragon forever
Inb4 the tin foil theories claiming Vizzy killed Balerion start
I like that two Australians are joking how mysterious it is that people would want to go to Ohio because of how dangerous the fauna there is 😂😂😂
Aemond's body is found because he's still chained to Vhagar. Whereas Daemon, who is not chained to his saddle isn't. I think that's reasonable.
My theory as to why they found Aemond's body and not Daemon, is because Aemond's body floats due to his balls being empty from all the milf sex he has, and Daemon sinks because his balls are so full because he can't get it up
This
I'm glad that you guys confirmed the theory that Marwyn and Mirri did the dirty. Now I can create further theories that presuppose this.
Time to go through the list of characters who might be their children...
According to The Interesting Nerd Club, Dany.
Broke: Character is a secret Targaryen
Woke: Character is the child of Ashara Dayne
Bespoke: Character is the lovechild of Marwyn and Mirri
Sweet Robin
Khal Drogo. /j
Danaerys, obviously. Let me explain . . . .
Big wheel keep on turning
(Danaerys wants to break the wheel)
Proud Mirri keep on burning
(You have to burn the [your] mother to become the mother . . . of dragons)
George RR Martin is a big CCR fan, it is known.
The collaborations between you two are so frickin funny. The way you play off of one another is definitely S Tier 😂
Theory: Harwin Strong actually warged into Greywind from the past right before he was killed at the Red Wedding, stopping Robb Stark from warging into Greywind so Robb actually ended up inside Corlys’ head
Delightful stuff
I think it would be interesting to see if there was a change in viseris' personality after balerion died and how connecting with the most powerful dragon effected him. Perhaps his views of the illusion of control were formed from his freedom from the optessive control of balerion
Maybe but he basically tames balerion and flies him around the city once or twice then soon after Balerion dies
Shift mentioned in a livestream the idea that something about bonding with balerion really shook Viserys and that’s why he’s so cautious about dragons and never tried to bond with a second one
Isn't it canon that riders can only have one dragon in their life? Like the dragon can take another rider if the rider dies but the rider will only wver ride one dragon?
I think the Vhaegar makes Aemond evil makes sense. Dragons have different personalities just like humans and Vhaegar has had the most riders so far, she might start to become immune to submitting to a riders will, especially when she's had strong minded riders before and now she was claimed by a confused and resentful teenager, she would easily be able to overpower a mind like that and just do what feels natural to her, she is used to war and destruction after all. And who knows maybe dragons absorb some of their previous rider's personalities and feelings too, Visenya was said to have a darkness to her that could stick with Vhaegar.
If you compare Daemon's bond to Caraxes you can see that Daemon's mind is so strong that he doesn't even have to command Caraxes, they are pretty much one mind.
It's a fun idea. I wish we knew more about how exactly the psychic connection works. Maybe we need dragon psychologists.
Nevermind that Aemond was like ten years old at most.
I love watching these two talk about dragon media nonsense it brings me joy
The time travelling blackfyre supporter is a reference to a moment in hot d in episode 1 where the person announcing the tourney is wearing a targ sigil in inverted colours and everyone was like ‘omg blackfyre!!!’
Has anyone done a theory about Jace's time in the North and maybe fathering a child who enters the Stark line, thereby making Arya a secret Targaryen and making the prophecy about the Others true?
I'd be shocked if no one has, because it seems ripe for insane conspiracy mongering and tying the shows together
Edit: typed this literally 3 minutes before they said exactly that lmao
its hilarious how as a watcher of the show, with no book reading at all, you can clearly tell where george's writing stopped and d&d started. its so bad
Theory: George rr Martin pulled an ultimate game of thrones betrayal by lying to D&D about the ending. They got barely anything if anything at all accurate.
Things like Arya killing the Night King and Dany burning King’s Landing out of nowhere we’re actually things he told them to do all along
@@merrittanimation7721 The Night King doesn't exist in the books
@@merrittanimation7721 The Arya part is BS
@@merrittanimation7721 well other than the fact that the night king doesnt exist in books, dumb and dumber chose arya as the one to kill him just to subvert expectations, thats literally it
@@macbuc5697 "it felt right" or something lol
If Aemond hadn't decided to torment Lucerys and instead just allowed him to fly home, he would not have accidentally killed him. Aemond is fully responsible.
Yes if you are chasing someone in you car to scare them but they trip and accidentally run over them you’d be charged with second degree murder
If Luke and Jace hadn’t gone to find out what Aemond was doing the fight wouldn’t have happened…
If Rhaenyra and Alicent hasn’t decided father and uncle marrying was weird they’d be friends still and the Dance wouldn’t have happened.
If Viserys wasn’t old and ill he wouldn’t have died and started the Dance.
In reality it’s Viserys fault for dying anyway.
@@lordbonney9779 If Viserys hadn't mumbled incoherently....
@@lordbonney9779tbf it's not that father marrying, it's that your dad marries your best friend of your age. The age differences even in real life were only occasionally tolerated to create peace, exclusively between royalty/aristocracy
Waking up to a new Schwifty & Glimbo stream is just about the best way to start the day.
Edit: Thanks for expanding on my little Crabfeeder = Daemon tinfoil.
"Da, how can Jaehaerys run again I thought he was a convicted criminal or something?"
"HE FIXED THE ROAD!"
Mysaria's accent is the showrunners asking the actress to imitate Shae. There it was her real accent though so it's understandably hard it copy but idk why they kept it after hearing it.
I do love the whole "Screw the Lannisters, here is a dragon egg" theory😂
2:10:36 The connections you need to make is children of the forest have cataclysmic magic and the Doom was destroyed by presumably cataclysmic magic.
Last hero met with children and something happened to turn the tide. Azor Ahai is known as the Son of Fire. If you connect the dots, it goes something like this:
Children created the Others to fight against the First Men. They went out of control. Last hero seeked the children out and received their help after making a promise. This created the first Valyrian, the son of fire, Azor Ahai. The Others were pushed back.
The promise was to destroy the son of fire to prevent the firebloods from growing out of control just like what happened with the Others. Azor Ahai died, but survived either through blood or through stolen magic and settled far away from the greenseers sight.
Valyrian Freehold came to existence only right after the Long Night. This is not a coincidence. They conquered Essos which resulted in the Andal migration, and finally the word reached the deepest forests in Westeros. Once the children heard of the dragonlords in the East, they also learned about the betrayal.
They gathered together and did their modus operandi, blood sacrificed their race to near extinction to summon the Doom to save the planet.
But one family survived. And seeing how that family conquered the entire Westeros with just 3 members, you can understand why their magically engineered blood is too dangerous to exist.
Don’t really have anything to add, just commenting to push this up. Pretty cool narrative you got there dude
Interesting and cool take
Pretty cool tbh, I disagree with nearly every word you wrote but thanks for it anyways.
Theory: Alicent will be behind Aegon II's poisoning at the end of the Dance.
I like it
Jace is a Cole:
1 - Looks like him, no curly hair
2 - Cole’s ultimatum on the boat hints as multiple hook ups with Rhaenera
3 - She didn’t drink the moon tea
4 - Viserys pushed the shotgun wedding after Joffrey was killed because he knew Rhaenera was pregnant and didn’t drink the tea
5 - Jace is 9-10 after the 10 year time jump
I like to think the Song of Ice and Fire was a century in the making from Aegon's actual dream to the story Viserys tells Rhaenyra. Maybe his dream was just of an army of Others, and was one part of why he chose to invade Westeros (I imagine he told Visenya and she used it to convince him, since her ambition seems to be the driving force behind a lot of Aegon's actions later). The idea that Aegon had this dream is general knowledge in the family. Later, Jaehaerys looks into it with Barth, creates the knife, and codifies the myth of the prophecy and its importance. He tells most of his family, but since they all die sooner or later, the last person he tells is Viserys. Viserys then thinks it's some secret sacred king-to-heir imperative because everyone else who also knew the story was gone.
I feel like....the idea of Cole being Jace's real dad might be a change that shorunners with "planning" might introduce in later seasons, because we did not see the "dead body" that was the empty cup of moon-tea. I think that will come back around, it stood out too much to me. And from the other small changes that we've seen under George's watch so far, I think this is well within something that you could change for the sake of "TV show drama" that wouldn't really change the lore in the long run. I think they'll do it, if they're smart.
Not to mention Queen Alysanne's Dragon acted as though he sensed the darkness growing beyond the wall "veering off" whenever she tried to fly past. Didn't stop Dany from doing it 200 years later but you know....
Maybe he was just cold!
@@flare3000 he was cold because "cold winds were rising" 🤣
Silverwing was a she-dragon
Show season 7 to 8 fan fiction not from book. I wouldn't count. Show ignored half of books stories.
Meh, doesn’t count with Dany. It was written for the show without any consideration of the lore or much guidance from GRRM
Bloodraven was the boar AND the hart. He time traveled back to kill Rhaenyra as the boar, only for the experience to turn her into the crazy evil Rhaenyra in Fire and Blood, then he went back in time again to try and prevent the events of Fire and Blood by sending the white hart, thus creating the differences between Fire and Blood and HOTD.
S-Tier theory: Alt Schwift X and Glidus is the best colab on TH-cam.
Caraxes is two dragons and a wyvern in a dragon costume. The wyvern is in the back, a big dragon in the chest, and a baby dragon in the neck.
Guys, that baby didn't look like it had grayscale, it looked 2 months early
And can we take a second to appreciate the imagery of a Lannister spear taking out the heart of a hart?
The one thing i like about the haelena/aemond theory is that in ep... 6 or 7? Larys and Alicent have a talk about Viserys' willful ignorance about his grandson's bastardy and Larys tells Alicent something like "You'd do the same in that situation" and she's like "noooo". I think it would be deliciously ironic for her to have completely ignored the bastards in her own family because she was too wrapped up in her own thing.
I mean she ignores the Targ bastards doing the child fighting a reality known to fhe erik twins would likely reach ottos ears
“I want him to write a thousand more pages, I’m hungry” 😂
my schizo take on the Great Empire of the Dawn Dayne/Hightower/Valyrian stuff is that the violet eyed blondes weren't the dragon masters of the dawn but actually genetically/blood magicked engineered experiments or thralls. Valyrian dragon blood was a project to create an alternative to binding magic through horns and sorcery.
You were talking about the gods and the boar. I think Jon "hearing" the dire wolf pups (twice) was the absolutely the work of the old gods. Osha indicates that they're subtle, we saw how Ned reacted, Jon reacted similarly.
Regarding Aemond being villainous but not yet having DONE anything evil yet: in my country, we call that ‘school shooter vibes’
I like the Faceless Men destroying the 14 Flames theory, it’s nowhere near enough degrees of separation to lose meaning. Otherwise literally any rebellion has no meaning because it’s the result of some other stuff. Making things more direct just makes it more on the nose.
I like it too because the faceless men get into the game by killing Targaryen and that's how they're gonna leave.
I just imagine that old Valerya had flame sorcerer's or something like to control the volcano and whatever power source was inside it and when they killed these 14 flames the source went out of control.
Seems legit.
Building off of the theory that Aegon I had no biological children, I like the theory that some form of proof that Aegon was infertile may have been what was in Nymor Martell’s letter. The Dornish had been warring against the Targaryens for years. After Rhaenys was supposedly killed, Aegon doubled down in his attempted conquest. Then suddenly, one letter that Aegon burned and never talked about again ended it all.
If the Martells could somehow prove that Aegon’s children were illegitimate, it may have proven to be the smoking gun that ended Aegon’s dynasty before it began. Hence, he opted to leave them alone and pray the secret didn’t get out before his children had children and the idea was forgotten.
Thing is, what was in that letter is such a massive question mark in the history of Westeros that you’d imagine it would be answered at some point. And it very well could in the future if the Martells have passed the secret down through their generations. Maybe at some point soon, the Martells will be motivated to reveal the secret and question the overall rights of the Targaryens. Said reveal could be pretty eye opening for Daenerys as well considering all her talk about her blood right to the Iron Throne. Depending on execution, that information could be a catalyst for serious character alteration for Daenerys.
This is all super speculative. But I like the theory since there’s a way it could come to fruition in the future story, and it adds a bit more to the theory of Aegon being infertile other than Rhaenys liked singers and Aegon didn’t much like Visenya.
We came for the theory’s we stayed for the chaos of y’all’s friendship
Came in expecting some cool history and lore tidbits I might have missed, ended up becoming a Westeros Qanon
The Winterfell prophecy could have been lost as recent at the death of Ned’s father and brother
It's a lot of fun listening to you fellows, At one point I became very confused. I found myself thinking, "Wait a minute, I thought the boar that killed Robert Baratheon was a horse!" Help me, Glidus!
I willfully ignored about 80 spoiler warnings and then immediately regretted it lmao
Did anything surprise you?
a not particularly strong theory I’ve come up with but nevertheless like is that Rhaegar named Jon and named him after JonCon. Like the logistics of Rhaegar naming Jon are already a bit clunky given Rhaegar was already very dead by the time Lyanna gave birth and the only one who could’ve respected his choice for a name is Lyanna who was also one foot in the grave by the time Jon was born. On top of that, as much as Rhaegar did seem to be close with JonCon naming one of his children after him is a pretty significant deal and whilst JonCon was definitely 100% in love with Rhaegar we don’t know if Rhaegar knew that and how he reacted if he did at all. On top of all this, the much stronger candidate for who Jon was named after is obviously Ned naming him for Jon Arryn, he is even already Jon’s namesake in one of his given conceptions, but I still really enjoy the idea of Rhaegar naming Jon after that there hot griffin boytoy of his (especially since JonCon was potentiall in exile at the point Rhaegar chose the name, so any fondness Rhaegar might have for him would be amplified by the knowledge he was now gone)
I like your theory. It's fun!
It's such a lovely theory.. Might steal it for a fic.
I like the theory that faceless caused the doom. Like, it speaks that you can exploit nature as you please, but if you exploit people too much, they will plot your death even at the cost of their own lives.
Autistic people are absolutely capable of regular relationships
Alt schwift XXXmas and Glinch just made my day
To weigh in on viserys being maelor: Maelor was smuggled out of Kings landing by Larys Strong, which happened after the disappearance of Viserys. Larys strong isn't exactly trustworthy, and might have lied about the boy he sent with ser rickard Thorne so that he could hold the real heir to the throne, which would in turn help him since by then aegon II is a crippled, broken, probably dying man, so if he holds the true king of westeros, then that means he's got all the cards. It would also explain why he ultimately helps corlys betray Aegon, since doing it for the blacks wouldn't make much sense since they would lop off his head anyway (as they actually did). But if he had Maelor in lys, he could manoeuvre him onto the throne instead of aegon III, ensuring a green victory where he is the regent until king Maelor is of age.
Two Glimbo/Schwify streams in a week???
Christmas has come early! 🤩
About Aemond x Helaena-
The scene where Alicent comes to talk to her while the twins are in the room, Aemond comes in and is SURPRISED to see Alicent. Then he and Helaena share a look. So…why was he coming up there so causally?
Aemond starts getting mad and uncomfortable when Jace and Helaena dance together.
“I would do my duty 😤” scene adds to it if you’re seeing it at that angle.
Exactly I noticed this too
It was stated in the books that Aemond was more fatherly towards the children of Helaena than Aegon. He loved spending time with his "nephew's and nieces."
Good thing Kepa means both Father and Uncle in Valyrian... Less chance of a slip-up.
I very much enjoy that this fandom is fully leaning into "that Aegon Dream do be sussy" because Conquerors Are Unreliable Narrators. My best guesses for who made up this family myth were Visenya and/or Jaehaerys. Visenya could have fed the line to her son to encourage him to usurp his brother's children - Maegor acted out a lot but was wholly loyal to Aenys, in Aenys' lifetime (just like Daemon was to Viserys).
Actually, the Daemon/Viserys dynamic mirrors the Maegor/Aenys one almost completely (the slashes are intentional). I remain morbidly fascinated by how consistent the royal line of Targs goes too hard on the "love your family" thing. Is the incestuousness taught and encouraged from birth, regardless of gender? Is it so normalized in their families that the kids just assume Interest when any other sibling would recognise that, no, familial protectiveness and friendship is not the same as "undying romantic love". The sense of entitlement to their siblings' attention, in Maegor and Daemon, seems to match up with the traditional Targcest thing anyway.
The whole loving your family and Maegor’s loyalty to Aeny’s was kind of shafted after he killed two of his brother’s kids.
@@roronoalaw7772 Royal bastards & forced marriages aside, Targaryens seem consistently loyal to their siblings. These loyalties sometimes extend to wives and nieces (typically with a goal of marrying said niece for political gain). These loyalties almost NEVER extend to nephews: the most dangerous person for a young Targaryen prince was typically their uncle. That's something that goes from Maegor and Daemon right to Robert Baratheon (though he was more technically a "cousin something removed" to Rhaella & Elia's children).
@@BattyButtercup The only problem with prophecy being made up is that The Others really appeared and attacked.
So even if the prophecy is not fully correct and could be changed in favor of Targaryens, therr is still a lot of truth in it.
And as Targaryens seem to be the only ones who know, the prophecy or at least part of it is real.
@@BattyButtercup Unless they knew it from Torrhen Stark who knelt and used it to build their own myths.
And Starks legend could be lost with death Neds father, but yeah thats a tinfoil theory, just a thought.
@@mjm1677 the Long Night exists in the folk lore and mythology in [planetos]: while planning their conquest of the North specifically, it's likely that Visenya would have been able to throw enough comparative mythology together to imply knowledge of the Long Night experienced in Westeros. TLN was a global event, fought on multiple fronts or at multiple points in time: the Valyrian Freehold would doubtlessly have records collected on it just from all the conquering they did.
I think I'm pushing the lengths of Occam's Razor by now but, initially, my thinking was that you don't need magic to ascertain something that can be learned by, say, going to your private library or bribing a maester.
"Compare that to Jaehaerys!"
"Now *that* guy fucks!"
The best buddy cop series out there
Schwifty : "I remember now!" - Hilarity, lucidity and/or insanity ensue. 😂🤔🙃
2:51:30 well theres some sort of thermal activity under Winterfell, and we know they hatch dragon eggs in/by volcanoes. So placing a dragon egg deep in the crypts seems like the best place to put a dragon egg in the north
As long as Ser Bonifer Hasty has Darksister, all is well in the realm.
And as long as we don't get them episodes NOTHING is well anywhere and kittens DIE
@@TheUmart wut
Omgggg a new one. I want you guys to know that your content collaboratively and solo has become the highlight of my dragon show fandom. And I’d totally be down to listen to you riff on other content. 🙏💰💸
Theory: Matt Smith in a wig is actually Daemon Targaryen
Theory: The Dance of Dragons was actually The Prance of Horses
2:40 Aegon I was an Aquarius. Cared about the environment and terrible with humans. Theory confirmed.
What about the theory that Preston Jacobs breaks the fourth wall from this side, and covertly controls all Magical events/Warging just to trick GRRM into confirming that PJ is Azor Ahai, The Lord of Light, the Drowned God, Red Rh'llor, Garth Greenseer Bloodraven, and all Seven of The Seven?
Crack theory, but maybe the Valyrian steel dagger inscription is literal, so that when Alicent cut Rhaenyra it was literally "From [this dagger's blood] come the prince that was promised" so potentially Aegon saw the literal dagger as an essential instrument to the defeat of the Night King bc the bar is SO LOW when it comes to satisfying narrative writing for GoT shows now
1:08:24 The chemistry between these two kills me every time. Love these streams
I slept listening to this and dreamed about me explaining the great empire of dawn to someone.
Great empire of the dawn is actually great empire of the Dayne. The name was forgotten over time.
I doubt anyone will ever see this but your four-skin joke made me think of high school which here in NZ used to run from Form 3 to Form 7. The year before I started there one of the teachers was named Mr Skin and as everyone had a set "Form class" for attendance and stuff you would say that you were in, for example, 5 Rogers (5th form with Mr/s Rogers). For whatever reason, given that they could have given Mr Skin a class from any other year, they gave him a 4th form class called (of course) 4 Skin.
Harwin=Corlys is so stupid, yet so plausible. I hope Harwin=Corlys becomes HOTD'S Euron=Daario.
I love “You actually believe this, don’t you?”