Being just 5'3" (163cm) has it's advantages when inside most any tent. The only Hilleberg tent I own or have ever slept in is my Enan, dark green. Space inside for MEeee - no problemo! Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
That tent is perfect for long hikes. Light, aired, ultraeasy to pitch and the 3p version offer so much space while it's barely heavier than the 2p version. A friend of mine has the Anjan 3 GT and two backpacks and two middle sized dogs fit into the vestibule. I use the Anjan 3 with my girlfriend on week-long hikes in the swiss alps during the snow free times. 1.9kg for two people (or 1.7 for the Anjan 2) is pretty lightweight. But the feet touching the wall is a problem. There might be moisture trapped between your feet and the wall which can lead to a slightly wet sleeping bag. It was never a big deal for me (but it was there) and a plastic bac around your feet would already solve it.
That's exactly it! So happy I changed to the 3p instead. Also like how small it on the outside. I'm used to 2 vestibule models. Any nice hikes in the Swiss Alps that you could recommend btw?
I know it's lighter, but I can't accept my feet insulation being smashed by a wall. I am 185cm, plus the height of a 5cm+ pad will raise you higher, then the sleepbag footbox will go higher still. Sleep is key pillar of my outdoor experience and cold feet will wake 90% of people up in the night. What I think is the most underrated Hilleberg tent is the Unna. It's red label strength at almost yellow label weight, especially if you pair it with the net interior. It actually does have a usable vestibule (see videos,) and its venting options are superior to the relatively low catenary cut. Catenary cut is often defeated by ground boundary layer effect. Keep it up at TH-cam! I'm an ultralighter TH-camr but I love your stuff!
OK fair enough. Unna - hmmm yeah it's an odd one, and I've tried it - sadly at 196cm I'm touching the inner with my feet and my head. Wouldn't mind the lack of vestibule or a a good mesh panel for that matter. I believe it's 2.4kg as the Soulo. I'm trying to get my hands on it to do a video too :) Thanks for watching and for your support Matt. I've seen your UL gear video and others! Love them!
@@OutdoorPrep oh wow, you’re tall! I’ve seen a video of a very tall guy in a Rogen. I’m split between a Rogen and a Unna. At 185cm would I be ok in an Unna, laying diagonally? Zpack just came out with an extended Duplex!
I was dreaming of the Duplex XL - saw it this morning. Guess what - my Altaplex is arriving tomorrow 😒 not sure how I feel about that. Oh I hate the Rogen sooooo much. And that’s coming from a Hilleberg fanatic. I bought 2, looked at third one, they all had design flaws / manufacturing issues. Inner space was not as promised basically. At 185 you’ll be ok in either one of them, but not a lot of extra space length wise. If you want I can send you a video of how I fit in the Unna. IG @outdoorprep
@@MattShafter I’m 188cm and find my Unna long enough without lying diagonally. The weight is 2.3kg. I also have the mesh inner which I love, but it’s almost the same weight as the solid inner.
Great review - I'm about to get the Anjan 2 (for one person 3 season Uk backpacking use) but I can't decide which colour - it looks great in all 3. What are your views, any pros and cons you can think of? I notice in one of your comments you suggest that a red tent changes the colour inside (good or bad?). You have got the Sand colour - was that a conscious choice or just what was available? Is the green too dark? Help I'm getting dizzy going round in circles! Many thanks😀
Oh that’s an interesting question. Highly personal but I can share my thoughts. The tent will look different in different conditions. What you see on camera can be different from what you’ll see at home. Light and weather (rain) will change how you see the fabric. I like all 3 colors. I wanted to get the Anjan in green but it was not available. I have two sand, one green and one red. I got used to the red and like it in the winter as it “brightens” up everything. It does change the color of everything inside it. Imagine wearing red/pink sunglasses. Having a sand / green color only makes it darker. The green is slightly more darker inside. Also you can consider your environment and if you want to “hide” your tent or the opposite? Red tent in the winter so you can find it back in a snow storm. As wild camping becomes more problematic in the UK it might be best to try and blend in. Sand will be the most stealth I think. Good luck! I’m sure you’ll be happy with any of them!
@@OutdoorPrep Thanks Rob. I think as you say red maybe a bit too much visibility, and at the moment neither red nor sand is easily available so maybe I'll let serendipity rule and go for green.
"...You get used to..." That's unfortunate. 😕 Have you ever tried the 2018 version of Helsport Ringstind 2 Pro? Inner is 240cm long, while to outer is 280cm. 100cm height. Its a similar size to the Akto, with the fabric tear strength of Black label, except that the pole is located slightly closer to your head for easier headroom. It's a much beloved tent here. It's a Norwegian brand, and I seldom see it anywhere else, which is odd. Anyways, have a nice day.
That's a funny coincidence - I do know the brand and I was watching a video of the Ringstind Superlight earlier today! I want to get Helsport "footbags" :) I like the design of the tent you mentioned and indeed similar to the Akto, but the center pole is not in the center which should give a bit more headroom! Great tip! Do you have experience with this tent?
@Rob | Outdoor Prep Superlight loo great. That version have the same tear strength as red label. I do not have experience with Ringstind, but I've read plenty experiences from Fjellforum, who seem to enjoy their Ringstind tents, especially the 2018 model. The newer version got double doors and higher foot end, but lower head space and shorter length. I grew up with a different 4 season Helsport tent and it still looks new today. We compare Hilleberg and Helsport as equals here in Norway. "The two big H's" The Foot bags seems like cool foot booties and gaiters combined. I assume you're going for heavily snowy areas around camp. From Fjellforum's user experiences, they seem to work reasonable well for basic camp tasks, however. Just like Expeds bivy shoe, they don't have a proper sole. A loose fit. Ergo, doing any precision work or lengthy walks, like getting water from a creek far away can be arduous. If you're going there, then a lot of people suggest Neos Adventure Overboots. They're favored by mushers, but can be used as camp shoe as well. Take into account that a lot of people use pulks here, so weight is a null factor. One common tip seems to be to cut a shape from old foam mat, to insulate the bottom of your foot bag. Either one, or two taped together. Some people have written much much more about their about this. It's clear people take their feet very seriously. :p Hope that helps
In order to avoid getting the bottom of your sleeping bag wet from condensation you can close your shell jacket and stick your feet/sleeping bag into it when you are sleeping. I believe Petra Hilleberg mention this in one or their videos.
I sometimes do that but in the end it still gets wet, ether from continuous pressure, heat from the footbox or it juts falls off during the night :) I think it's mentioned in the "hilleberg for tall people" video
@@OutdoorPrep A nice feture is the guyline attachment point on the rear which allows you to pitch the rear into stong winds without the inner and outer touching. Have added a guyline there with a guyline runner.
Great video Rob! Thanks :) I'm a fan of the Kaitum but the great feature on the Anjan of rolling away the outer tent on both sides is making me have second thoughts haha! How was the night in the tent qua comfort? DId you sleep diagonal?
You can still do that on the Kaitum, but it''s so much quicker on the Anjan indeed. I tried both diagonal and straight in the centre. I moved because my pillow was falling off my pad, nothing to do with the tent itself. Quite comfy, but obviously less than Kaitum, but it's half the weight (if you include the footprint)
Haha yeah I think they already have too many versions that it’s hard to choose. The Helags is the answer for tall people. This one is a bit of a compromise but I’m ok with it for the sake of saving weight 😃
@@northumberlandmountainhopper if it's a tunnel tent, it has 2 vertical walls - 220 is all you need at that point. Staika is 230 but walls are slanted. Which MSR are we talking about?
@@robertlewandowski8491 I use the MSR Hubba Hubba so I have 220 cm with vertical end walls so I was saying the Helags is just the same size. It would be nice to have a tent with 230 /240 vertical wall to wall, as the x/l Rab sleeping bags are prone to touch the end walls. I am 190 cm so with a lofty bag like a Rab ascent 1100 even dead central it can touch the walls and get damp The tent is 1.6 kg so to offer a bigger version would not be that much heavier. Just my thoughts Keep em coming
@@northumberlandmountainhopper So I think the Hubba Hubba is smaller than you think. Specs say it's 213cm, not 220. If you like this type of tent, check out the Nemo Dagger. It's a bit bigger at 229cm! I like it, but don't trust it in high winds, like the Hubba Hubba. While you're browsing, have a look at the Hilleberg Saitaris. You won't like the weight but it's over 240cm with nearly vertical side walls!
I’ve tried it but only for a bit. Generally good initial impressions. Set up with long pole sleeves so less suitable for setting up in super windy environments compared to the Soulo. Good space for the weight at 1.7kg if I’m not mistaken. A bit too small (length wise) for me at 196cm (walls are a bit more slanted). Vestibule is not big but can be opened from both sides. Due to its shape not really suitable for cooking inside, but since it’s not a winter tent there should be no need. So if you fit in it, it’s a great 3 season tent.
On its limit I think. If you’re comfortable with that I’d recommend extra guylines and some trusted pegs for the terrain. Also try to find a sheltered place. Double poles or 10mm poles would make a massive difference.
Yes I wanted to do that next time. The worry is that it might get wet from the inside. We’ll see how much heat the feet produce 🤷🏻♂️ I’ve tried with my rain jacket a few times as well, one time it did feel wet on the inside, but didn’t test it properly.
Tried and works. Even though I've never had normal condensation on the inside of the inner tent, I realised that moisture can be trapped between the feet and the wall. Or rather below the feet and the wall? However, I already woke up with a slightly wet foot area and a plastic bag solved it. The rest of the inner tent was allways bone dry, even when we camped beside a river and half of it's water was sticking at the inner side of the rainfly.
Great style and fluency as ever Rob, but a summer tent with no upper venting? Plus the roll back door, is that not just a gimmick. Who wants all their porch gear left wofting around outside?
Thanks Dave! There's no upper vent as is on the Kaitum indeed. I'd like to have it too, but then there's the extra weight and guy line and pegs - I guess that's why they haven't done it. I don't miss it for ventilation purposes, just as "a window" mostly. As for the rollback door - I think it is great. The red label Kaitum has it too, but it's much more effort to roll it away and to put it back so I ended up almost never using it. On the Anjan and Helags it's very easy. Also the half-way open is great. Last summer I used the Soulo Inner mesh only to sleep under the stars, fully open but had a tarp close by - just in case it started to rain. This would be a nice mid-way I think. And if I'm using the Anjan solo - then there's plenty of room inside for my gear. With the Soulo Inner Mesh I needed to store it in dry bags and my shoes in a plastic bag because of bugs - not ideal indeed. So would you have any other suggestions for light weight, but strong tents? I'm always on the lookout! Cheers!
@@OutdoorPrep thanks for the comprehensive reply Rob. Right now I am typing this from a Northumberland summit in my kuiu storm star. Allak space at near Soulo weight. My other go to is my tarptent scarp one. Cheers
Not a big fan of Hilleberg 3 season tents. I tested a few preproduction models back in the day. Just not for me. I am a huge fan of their 4 season models as I own the Soulo & the Tarra. Had a Saitaris but sold it. Really wasn't getting a ton of use so I got it in the hands of someone who would enjoy it. I prefer late fall to early spring to be out & about.
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Thanks so much 🙌🏼 I try my best :)
Being just 5'3" (163cm) has it's advantages when inside most any tent. The only Hilleberg tent I own or have ever slept in is my Enan, dark green. Space inside for MEeee - no problemo!
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada U.S.A.
Love the idea of the Enan but unfortunately too small for me indeed. Happy to hear you like it 💪🏼
Got it, love it. My favourite all-round wild camping tent by far.
I've seen it on your channel Richie! It's a great one! So much space (at the head end at least)
That tent is perfect for long hikes. Light, aired, ultraeasy to pitch and the 3p version offer so much space while it's barely heavier than the 2p version. A friend of mine has the Anjan 3 GT and two backpacks and two middle sized dogs fit into the vestibule. I use the Anjan 3 with my girlfriend on week-long hikes in the swiss alps during the snow free times. 1.9kg for two people (or 1.7 for the Anjan 2) is pretty lightweight. But the feet touching the wall is a problem. There might be moisture trapped between your feet and the wall which can lead to a slightly wet sleeping bag. It was never a big deal for me (but it was there) and a plastic bac around your feet would already solve it.
That's exactly it! So happy I changed to the 3p instead. Also like how small it on the outside. I'm used to 2 vestibule models. Any nice hikes in the Swiss Alps that you could recommend btw?
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I know it's lighter, but I can't accept my feet insulation being smashed by a wall. I am 185cm, plus the height of a 5cm+ pad will raise you higher, then the sleepbag footbox will go higher still. Sleep is key pillar of my outdoor experience and cold feet will wake 90% of people up in the night. What I think is the most underrated Hilleberg tent is the Unna. It's red label strength at almost yellow label weight, especially if you pair it with the net interior. It actually does have a usable vestibule (see videos,) and its venting options are superior to the relatively low catenary cut. Catenary cut is often defeated by ground boundary layer effect. Keep it up at TH-cam! I'm an ultralighter TH-camr but I love your stuff!
OK fair enough. Unna - hmmm yeah it's an odd one, and I've tried it - sadly at 196cm I'm touching the inner with my feet and my head. Wouldn't mind the lack of vestibule or a a good mesh panel for that matter. I believe it's 2.4kg as the Soulo. I'm trying to get my hands on it to do a video too :)
Thanks for watching and for your support Matt. I've seen your UL gear video and others! Love them!
@@OutdoorPrep oh wow, you’re tall! I’ve seen a video of a very tall guy in a Rogen. I’m split between a Rogen and a Unna. At 185cm would I be ok in an Unna, laying diagonally? Zpack just came out with an extended Duplex!
I was dreaming of the Duplex XL - saw it this morning. Guess what - my Altaplex is arriving tomorrow 😒 not sure how I feel about that.
Oh I hate the Rogen sooooo much. And that’s coming from a Hilleberg fanatic. I bought 2, looked at third one, they all had design flaws / manufacturing issues. Inner space was not as promised basically. At 185 you’ll be ok in either one of them, but not a lot of extra space length wise. If you want I can send you a video of how I fit in the Unna. IG @outdoorprep
@@MattShafter I’m 188cm and find my Unna long enough without lying diagonally. The weight is 2.3kg. I also have the mesh inner which I love, but it’s almost the same weight as the solid inner.
Agree if a tent feet is touching that a no from me
Great choice! I've got the same one but in red and since I'm only 5'9" the length is great for me.
Great choice as well! What made you choose red? And how do you like being in a red tent? It changes the light inside
Great review - I'm about to get the Anjan 2 (for one person 3 season Uk backpacking use) but I can't decide which colour - it looks great in all 3. What are your views, any pros and cons you can think of? I notice in one of your comments you suggest that a red tent changes the colour inside (good or bad?). You have got the Sand colour - was that a conscious choice or just what was available? Is the green too dark? Help I'm getting dizzy going round in circles! Many thanks😀
Oh that’s an interesting question. Highly personal but I can share my thoughts.
The tent will look different in different conditions. What you see on camera can be different from what you’ll see at home. Light and weather (rain) will change how you see the fabric. I like all 3 colors. I wanted to get the Anjan in green but it was not available. I have two sand, one green and one red.
I got used to the red and like it in the winter as it “brightens” up everything. It does change the color of everything inside it. Imagine wearing red/pink sunglasses. Having a sand / green color only makes it darker. The green is slightly more darker inside.
Also you can consider your environment and if you want to “hide” your tent or the opposite? Red tent in the winter so you can find it back in a snow storm.
As wild camping becomes more problematic in the UK it might be best to try and blend in. Sand will be the most stealth I think.
Good luck! I’m sure you’ll be happy with any of them!
@@OutdoorPrep Thanks Rob. I think as you say red maybe a bit too much visibility, and at the moment neither red nor sand is easily available so maybe I'll let serendipity rule and go for green.
I think it will blend in well and look like rock :) Enjoy!
"...You get used to..."
That's unfortunate. 😕 Have you ever tried the 2018 version of Helsport Ringstind 2 Pro? Inner is 240cm long, while to outer is 280cm. 100cm height. Its a similar size to the Akto, with the fabric tear strength of Black label, except that the pole is located slightly closer to your head for easier headroom. It's a much beloved tent here. It's a Norwegian brand, and I seldom see it anywhere else, which is odd. Anyways, have a nice day.
That's a funny coincidence - I do know the brand and I was watching a video of the Ringstind Superlight earlier today! I want to get Helsport "footbags" :) I like the design of the tent you mentioned and indeed similar to the Akto, but the center pole is not in the center which should give a bit more headroom! Great tip! Do you have experience with this tent?
@Rob | Outdoor Prep Superlight loo great. That version have the same tear strength as red label.
I do not have experience with Ringstind, but I've read plenty experiences from Fjellforum, who seem to enjoy their Ringstind tents, especially the 2018 model. The newer version got double doors and higher foot end, but lower head space and shorter length. I grew up with a different 4 season Helsport tent and it still looks new today. We compare Hilleberg and Helsport as equals here in Norway. "The two big H's"
The Foot bags seems like cool foot booties and gaiters combined. I assume you're going for heavily snowy areas around camp. From Fjellforum's user experiences, they seem to work reasonable well for basic camp tasks, however. Just like Expeds bivy shoe, they don't have a proper sole. A loose fit. Ergo, doing any precision work or lengthy walks, like getting water from a creek far away can be arduous. If you're going there, then a lot of people suggest Neos Adventure Overboots. They're favored by mushers, but can be used as camp shoe as well. Take into account that a lot of people use pulks here, so weight is a null factor.
One common tip seems to be to cut a shape from old foam mat, to insulate the bottom of your foot bag. Either one, or two taped together.
Some people have written much much more about their about this. It's clear people take their feet very seriously. :p
Hope that helps
In order to avoid getting the bottom of your sleeping bag wet from condensation you can close your shell jacket and stick your feet/sleeping bag into it when you are sleeping.
I believe Petra Hilleberg mention this in one or their videos.
I sometimes do that but in the end it still gets wet, ether from continuous pressure, heat from the footbox or it juts falls off during the night :)
I think it's mentioned in the "hilleberg for tall people" video
Got the 2 person version for solo use for smaller footprint
Yeah that was my initial purchase too! Cheers!
@@OutdoorPrep A nice feture is the guyline attachment point on the rear which allows you to pitch the rear into stong winds without the inner and outer touching. Have added a guyline there with a guyline runner.
Great video Rob! Thanks :) I'm a fan of the Kaitum but the great feature on the Anjan of rolling away the outer tent on both sides is making me have second thoughts haha! How was the night in the tent qua comfort? DId you sleep diagonal?
You can still do that on the Kaitum, but it''s so much quicker on the Anjan indeed. I tried both diagonal and straight in the centre. I moved because my pillow was falling off my pad, nothing to do with the tent itself. Quite comfy, but obviously less than Kaitum, but it's half the weight (if you include the footprint)
Nice review
So small, why don’t they do tents in two sizes on request ? Money obviously , but tall people need more length.
Keep em coming
Haha yeah I think they already have too many versions that it’s hard to choose. The Helags is the answer for tall people. This one is a bit of a compromise but I’m ok with it for the sake of saving weight 😃
@@OutdoorPrep yes Helags bigger but still only 220cm my MSR is 220cm and prob better than a tunnel tent ? tents are a hard choice
@@northumberlandmountainhopper if it's a tunnel tent, it has 2 vertical walls - 220 is all you need at that point.
Staika is 230 but walls are slanted. Which MSR are we talking about?
@@robertlewandowski8491 I use the MSR Hubba Hubba so I have 220 cm with vertical end walls so I was saying the Helags is just the same size.
It would be nice to have a tent with 230 /240 vertical wall to wall, as the x/l Rab sleeping bags are prone to touch the end walls.
I am 190 cm so with a lofty bag like a Rab ascent 1100 even dead central it can touch the walls and get damp
The tent is 1.6 kg so to offer a bigger version would not be that much heavier.
Just my thoughts
Keep em coming
@@northumberlandmountainhopper So I think the Hubba Hubba is smaller than you think. Specs say it's 213cm, not 220. If you like this type of tent, check out the Nemo Dagger. It's a bit bigger at 229cm! I like it, but don't trust it in high winds, like the Hubba Hubba. While you're browsing, have a look at the Hilleberg Saitaris. You won't like the weight but it's over 240cm with nearly vertical side walls!
Great video! Do you have any opinion on their Niak?
I’ve tried it but only for a bit. Generally good initial impressions. Set up with long pole sleeves so less suitable for setting up in super windy environments compared to the Soulo. Good space for the weight at 1.7kg if I’m not mistaken. A bit too small (length wise) for me at 196cm (walls are a bit more slanted). Vestibule is not big but can be opened from both sides. Due to its shape not really suitable for cooking inside, but since it’s not a winter tent there should be no need. So if you fit in it, it’s a great 3 season tent.
How would this be in the wind and rain of Scottish winters?
On its limit I think. If you’re comfortable with that I’d recommend extra guylines and some trusted pegs for the terrain. Also try to find a sheltered place.
Double poles or 10mm poles would make a massive difference.
congratulations for your videos they are really good... I would like you to make a video of the hilleberg nallo 2 .. thanks
Gracias Pablo. Nallo is on my “to do” list :)
Is this still your opinion, Rob?
Nothing has changed ✌🏽
Might seem a bit silly but a spare trash bag around the foot box of the sleeping bag would keep it dry idk never tried but maybe 🤷♂️
Yes I wanted to do that next time. The worry is that it might get wet from the inside. We’ll see how much heat the feet produce 🤷🏻♂️
I’ve tried with my rain jacket a few times as well, one time it did feel wet on the inside, but didn’t test it properly.
Tried and works. Even though I've never had normal condensation on the inside of the inner tent, I realised that moisture can be trapped between the feet and the wall. Or rather below the feet and the wall? However, I already woke up with a slightly wet foot area and a plastic bag solved it. The rest of the inner tent was allways bone dry, even when we camped beside a river and half of it's water was sticking at the inner side of the rainfly.
Glad to hear it has worked for you. I think it does depend on the conditions as you can also encounter condensation inside that bag.
AH bag.. that means Dutch right?
Haha well spotted
How tall are you?
196 / 6’4
Great style and fluency as ever Rob, but a summer tent with no upper venting? Plus the roll back door, is that not just a gimmick. Who wants all their porch gear left wofting around outside?
Thanks Dave! There's no upper vent as is on the Kaitum indeed. I'd like to have it too, but then there's the extra weight and guy line and pegs - I guess that's why they haven't done it. I don't miss it for ventilation purposes, just as "a window" mostly. As for the rollback door - I think it is great. The red label Kaitum has it too, but it's much more effort to roll it away and to put it back so I ended up almost never using it. On the Anjan and Helags it's very easy. Also the half-way open is great. Last summer I used the Soulo Inner mesh only to sleep under the stars, fully open but had a tarp close by - just in case it started to rain. This would be a nice mid-way I think. And if I'm using the Anjan solo - then there's plenty of room inside for my gear. With the Soulo Inner Mesh I needed to store it in dry bags and my shoes in a plastic bag because of bugs - not ideal indeed. So would you have any other suggestions for light weight, but strong tents? I'm always on the lookout! Cheers!
@@OutdoorPrep thanks for the comprehensive reply Rob. Right now I am typing this from a Northumberland summit in my kuiu storm star. Allak space at near Soulo weight. My other go to is my tarptent scarp one. Cheers
Oh this is an interesting one. Like their hunting shelter. Is this brand similar to Nemo Equipment hunting tents?
@@OutdoorPrep If you mean the endurance (Chogori) or the kodiak then I have never tried them, but they certainly have been on my radar.
Not a big fan of Hilleberg 3 season tents. I tested a few preproduction models back in the day. Just not for me.
I am a huge fan of their 4 season models as I own the Soulo & the Tarra.
Had a Saitaris but sold it. Really wasn't getting a ton of use so I got it in the hands of someone who would enjoy it.
I prefer late fall to early spring to be out & about.
Yeah it’s good that they have different lines for different needs 👍🏽
Onion?
Potatoe!