I just realised in episode 2 when mobius said something like "keep this up and you're going to take my job" to Loki, who is a variant, it was foreshadowing for all TVA agents being variants
@@nicklemen the 'Bosses' do... how far this trickles down to 'Middle management' is debatable... I also think Renslayer has a Team of Mobiuses (Mobii?) who obviously don't know that they are Variants or Multiples ... that's why she has souvenirs that 'our' Mobius doesn't recognize
Important clue, last episode Renslayer grabbed her disintegration stick when the sacred time was threatened with multiple attacks. This episode we find out though that she didn't go off to stop the branches but instead grabbed back up to head directly to protect the Time Keepers. She's more aware of what is going on, and what is really important than the others in the TVA.
Its more about the accumulated evidence of Renslayer being more than just another enslaved variant at the TVA. She's more aware of what is really going on. The disintegration stick was put up on display like a trophy of past service. When chaos hit, it would be fine for her to take it up to jump back into active duty to go protect the Time Line. Sure. But her heading to the Time Keepers says something more is going on. She also grabbed back up, so she's not just going to go there to ask guidance. It collectively suggests this is not just protocol, but a intuitive reaction to the situation and what is really important to protect. Her position also puts her in the best position to screen incoming variants to pick out those that will be the most useful to wipe and put into service. The whole process leading up to the "trial" is not just there as part of the TVA's bureaucracy, its part of the screening for "employees". Those who don't follow procedures and cooperate are weeded out and summarily disintegrated. The sacred timeline is slowly being exposed as a bunch of BS, with the real revelation eventually being what is going with these "Time Keepers". Renslayer knows a lot more than anyone else shown about what is really going on.
@@brianpotter8252 I agree with the screening employees bit-I found it weird from the first episode they had any kind of judicial process at all, just not enough pieces to put together why they had it. But it really seemed to me like she was doing what she is supposed to be doing in a situation like this. Like, I worked as a manager in a retail store. In the event of emergencies, employees had things they were supposed to do. My protocols in the same situations were different than theirs. I think the simpler explanation is that she is management, so in an emergency she had different responsibilities. With the stick and the helmet (A-23) it seems to imply she was started as a Minuteman and worked her way up. The alternate explanation, I think, would be that she is in love with one of the Time-Keepers, that being Kang.
I just had a thought: What if all the Reset Charges and Pruning wands the TVA uses don’t actually disintegrate people, but teleport them to whatever hole they use as a Recruitment Office?
Yeah, there is a difference between resetting and pruning. So far, they've been mostly talking about resetting timelines and people, but rarely pruned any. This theory could tie in nicely with that.
I was thinking that they were turning the variants after their court hearings. So they're basically sentenced to life in the purgatory that is the TVA. They have to jump through hoops to and follow all of the TVA instructions to that point. The TVA is probably just killing people that give them a hard time because the don't want the trouble.
Here is a translation of wha Loki sings on the train: "In stormy black mountains, i wander alone. Over the iceberg i pull myself forth. In the apple garden, stands the maiden fair. And i sing, when will you come home?"
Its possible maybe he did it to try to save the people of the planet as when he pulls out the broken tempad his plan is to hijack the Ark and get it off the planet which will save those people.
Skipping over my biggest question: who has enchanted who? Seems like Loki has enchanted Sylvie, or is trying to, and nothing after they talk on the train is real. She wakes up, Loki isn't in the same clothes, he's singing a song that breaks down into a lullaby for a second, and he's asking her for more info on enchantment. She also says that with the stronger ones you create the enchantment from their memory, but they're there too. Loki doesn't know Lamentis 1, but Sylvie has been there before, so it's her memory. Also, yeah, Loki can't just flip buildings, so either he nabbed the time stone, or he's just letting his ego inflate his powers in the enchantment.
Oddly, this reminds me of people's imaginations when they tried to come up with explanations for Mass Effect 3's ending. I get the feeling we will be similarly disappointed.
My theory is that Loki did not act stupid and destroy the tecpad. Two possible theories are: 1. He wanted to test sylvie to find out how much he can trust her because he has a much more mischievous plan in mind involving her 2. More preferably, loki is able to finally use the power of enchantment himself and he put sylvie in a dream state where all these events happen in her mind while in the train. A big clue to that sylvie is seen sleeping right before Loki's song when she had already made clear she won't rest with loki around. Also explains loki being able to push back the whole building with his mind but failed to fend off a guard throwing him out of a train
Comics Sylvie is a creation of Loki and technically cam be a Loki, depending on how they go about it. I think his discussion between the two powers from the previous episode is a big clue about the whole thing.
@@billyt8868 lol "every single" you probably can't even fathom the amount of work he puts into every video and you want him to be perfect. Dude's trying to make a living by entertaining us and you're shitting on him because.... why?
Yes I was waiting for someone to mention the cinematography! The scene near the end where it was mostly shot in one take was extremely impressive as well!
My theory is that she's not a frost Giant like the main Loki, instead she's an Asgardian taken in by the frost Giants. That's why her hair matches the rest of Thor's family, and why her up bringing was so different. Also why she always knew she was adopted.
or she might not even be a frost giant or Asgardian to begin with but a normal human gifted the powers of silf by loki like how her namesake was in the comics.
I just checked. There's an interview where the WandaVision director says there is an answer to who the witness was, but "hang in there," LMAO. Guess we'll find out in a year or two.
My first thought was the character in the novel The Postman by David Brin (Movie with/by Kevin Costner). He was in an apocalyptic world... Probably wrong.
My hypothesis: The moment Sylvie sleeps on the train, Loki uses her own powers against her and creates a dream world to convince her to tell him all he wants. The next episode will start with Loki and Sylvie talking, and when she spills all the beans on her motivation and plan, they wake up back on the train, in time to save themselves. This explains the abrupt scene change to the foolish song of Loki, the strange powers he exhibits and gives a way out to the two of them. Too far fetched?
@@TheLozzyloo Yeah so i wonder , after Sylvia get to sleep, Loki charge the Pad and act as drunk, get thrown out the train. Act like the Pad is destroyed so he could get more info from Sylvia like info that agents are people? Because Loki getting drunk? He is not like Thor. Its one of his tricks.
I think this whole episode is Loki doing his own enchantment on Sylvie. He never said he couldn't do it...he said it was for amateurs. I think he is doing all of this so that she will fear dying and help him get what he wants, along with get to know her more so he can defeat her in the end. He has the battery safe and sound...the broken one was all pretend! Enchantress loki...mischievous scamp!
Plot twist: Sylvie is controlling his mind and all this is to find where Loki hid the thingamabob. Double plot twist: Loki didn't actually break the thing, it's just a projection. Triple plot twist: it's just a projection of Loki this whole time from the mall scene, coz there's that scene where Loki explains hologram and astro projection. That could be relevant. Quadruple plot twist: Sylvie is an illusion created by Loki of the future to train Loki of the present to become the new time keeper, which he eventually becomes in the future. (Not likely) Quadruple plot twist pro max : I am actually in fact Loki, who's mind was erased and sent to earth to be imprisoned in the mind of a sorry ass man. (100% plausible)
It does make sense ,because if Loki is not nerfed ,then there would be no fight scenes ,he’s gonna one shot everything ,and everyone ,and people would be like those dumb asses whom will scream like crybabies ,oh Loki is too overpowered ,just like they did to Captain Marvel ,either accept it or just don’t watch the series ,watch something else ,LOL !😂😂
@@fahimalfaisal7781 yeah Loki was nerfed and therefore the fight scenes make no sense. Because how would he be “nerfed” in the show. It’s just for production
Yeah, I had that reaction, then I re-watched it like 3 times. He does the doctor strange cross of the hands that was used before activating the timestone, then brought his hands down. It was very similar to the motions used for the timestone, with no "push" that has been shown with other telekinetic powers. It seems to heavily imply the timestone was used.
I might have to rewatch Thor The Dark World but I’m 80% certain that Loki had pushed around objects after he heard that Frigga was killed. Edit: Yep. He did TK push chairs outward. It's 51 minutes and 51 seconds in Thor The Dark World.
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This whole episode is orchestrated by loki in order to learn more about sylvie. The thing isnt out of batterys, thats an illusion. The fight with the guards, an easy win. He is prolonging everything by pretending hes weaker than he is. Even the transformation to trick the old woman is a bluff designed to make him seem a fool. His drunken stupor creating fireworks instead of a ticket, an allusion meant to throw more belief to the broken time majigger. If he truly dies have the timestone he could easily revert the device back to when it held a charge. He doubts she is a loki because of her lack of ambition to anything other than killing the timegods. I hope im right that hes leading ger around cause it makes all his dopey moments make sense
I like this and it would honestly make so much sense and would be better. But I'm not gonna hope too much because maybe the writers just decided to nerf him
@@Girl-di5dg they definitely nerfed him to seem more relatable and likeable. They nerfed is mischiefness as well. 2012 loki was very menacing but i guess they aged him to Endgame Loki when they showed all his history to himself.
I'm inclined to agree the broken timepad is a ruse. It's just exactly the sort of thing he would do, even if only to get Sylvie to quit fighting him for it.
Also, the part when Loki stop a building to fall is the kind of weird event that could look normal to eyes of Sylvie since she doesn't know the exact nature of Loki's powers, but to us is a big clue that things doesn't are what it seems.
Que: How to find timekeepers? Ans: Gold elevators. and Sylvie was almost there. and I don't think A-23 was there because she found them but her first instinct was to guard the gold elevators.
I also think that when they found the agent whom Sylvie had enchanted, she said that she gave away on how to find the time keepers. Maybe the give away was the words "Gold Elevators" 😉
I think Loki was testing her knowledge and her background. One thing I think he purposely did was the drunk Norwegian song scene. To see her reaction to it. So see was she actually Asgardian
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Loki the villain, was quite in love with himself. I think that we will see Loki fall in love with Sylvie (himself) and that we will get to watch her die in front of Loki in a few shows; likely erased by a TVA Agent. It will truly make Loki's metaphor about love being a dagger a truth, to him.
Hi, the reason why Loki was able to stop the *falling building (*is also a callback to Time Bandits, rip/ wb Fidget!) because this is a dream sequence and Sylvie is still sleeping as Loki learned to charm her just by her describing how she does it. I think the pad is also not destroyed and was an illusion like the whole train ride and what follows. The both of them walking to the city gave me "The Wiz" vibes. He may be charming her to figure out a way to fix the pad and escape. I also think maybe Loki didn't want to kill TVA agents and was holding back because he realized earlier by speaking to Mobius that they might be variants too, but he got that confirmed by **Sylvie later. Okay, last one... "POST-MAN", think like, what's past a man...an old man. Stan Lee is old, so you were so close! OLD MAN LOKI CONFIRMED! ** Sylvie is fighting to kill because she is being manipulated by ***Old man Loki and feels the TVA are evil and they all need to die. Lots of manipulations afoot! *** Old man Loki is probably seeking those ultimate time powers from the TVA so that he can finally rule.
In the Thor: The Dark World, when Loki finds out about Frigga's death and destroys his cell, it does seem that he has some telekinetic ability when the furniture goes flying around the room. That could explain how he stopped that pillar from falling.
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@@ZendelWashington naw doubt it. Buuut what I was thinking, she could be enchanting him and using his own cockiness against him making him think he has the edge. If you catch my drift. Or last scenario time whatever police are going to show and essentially they escape the planet before its destruction.
As far as the action goes, I've really liked what I've seen so far. I feel like both characters are holding back magically, because tricksters never reveal everything. They're still clearly feeling each other out and don't want the other to know what the other has up their sleeves. Also, we've seen our Loki choose physical violence over magical violence time and time again throughout the movies, it shouldn't be any surprise that he's not just using his magic to fool everyone all the time.
"Where there are wolves ears the teeth are near." This whole episode is foretold in the tent scene by Loki in episode 2. He's playing her. "Drunk with power. Those you underestimate will devour you...easy to manipulate." Loki said it all.
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I think there's a reason a lot of the action is off: I think potentially Everything that happened from some time after they fell through to portal to Lamentis, either Sylvie is in Loki's head gathering information or Loki is in Sylvie's head doing that to her, and nothing that happened on Lamentis really happened
This was the first thing I thought. They open the episode showing how she enchants people to get info, she 'tries' it on him, and near the end they even come back to give more detail (weak minds vs strong).
This is exactly what I was thinking. She even talks about needing to create fake scenarios in people’s heads that are stronger minded. Also, Loki never has been shown to have the power to reverse the falling tower, but he could be able to manipulate the fake reality in his head. Also also, the fight on the train should have been much easier for them being super-powered. Loki getting thrown out of the train like that wouldn’t have happened when he has his powers.
@@RyantheLegoBrick That's what I thought - and it makes sense why Loki didn't use his powers in the fights because she doesn't know what powers he has (or magic, I guess).
Here’s my thought, Loki projected the dead battery in the TemPad in order to put Sylvie in a corner where he can get information he wants from her. His actual plan is to make things hopeless so she divulges everything about who she is and her plan so he can either help her or destroy her, depending on how much he likes her plan. Getting beat by the Lamentis guards is part of the plan. He’s not this bumbling, he’s just being so in order to make her frustrated and hopeless.
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Either the TVA will show up last minute or Loki has the time stone and let things get this far because he was *ahem* playing for time to try to figure Sylvie out.
That wouldn’t be a far fetch considering loki could literally take any one of the “paper weights” into the real world because TVA has such a terrible security lol
mcu is clearly trying to move away from infinity stones i would be shocked if they pivot any plot on the time stone. seems more likely that he just…. faked that the time device (whatever it’s called) was broken so he could put her through all that stress and get her to share personal info. she didn’t open up at all until then. alternatively TVA could show up but that paints sylvia and loki as insanely incompetent and needing saving. either way i think mcu is done with infinity stones. could be wrong.
Or maybe he has the space stone while we are at it Loki after all always tried to get the tesseract into his hands a lot of the time throughout the MCU, maybe he can use it to teleport himself and sylvie out of there
Loki uses the Time Stone around 35:20 into the episode when he rewinds the falling building. This becomes clear because at the beginning of this we learn that his powers are simply illusions. How did he just move something with his mind otherwise?
The part that everyone keeps saying he is using the time stone for has a much simpler explanation. The building coming down was part of an illusion. Loki did not want Enchantress Loki to notice it when they felt nothing as the building crashed around them. This entire episode is a mental chess game between the two of them. You can't trust anything you see.
I couldn’t agree more. Most part of this episode shall be the illusion created by one of the Lokis. Otherwise they can’t explain all those unreasonable details.
He may have used Telekinesis because it is one of his powers, you see him use it in Thor 2 when he destroys his prison cell there isn’t any flash of green when he dose it in Thor 2 similar to the scene in the show. The comics show him using the same power so it’s realistic for the writers to put it in there.
Her saying she “barley remembers” her mother doesn’t mean her mother didn’t raise her, it just means that it’s been so long since she’s been in contact with her mother that it’s barley a dream to her. She’s been on the run from the villains at the TVA for hundreds of years.
@@wsconsn I was just thinking maybe her mum died or just wasn't around at a very young age so much so that can barely remember her as she was just a baby or very young
Seems to me like the whole episode takes place in Sylvie's mind as Loki has done to her what she did to the TVA agent at the beginning. He's used her memories to construct a scenario where they can bond and allow her to spill the beans on her plan.
Another Doctor Who link, Paul Cornell is a pretty big contributor to the franchise both in print media and the show itself, including the episode Father's Day, which explores timelines going wrong.
Loki having a Time Stone seems very likely... when he pushed that building back, even the dust from it crumbling went in reverse (very sutil, masked by other dust NOT from that building).
Lyrics and translation from Norwegian of Loki’s song: I stormsvarte fjell, jeg vandrer alene. (In stormy, black mountains, I walk alone) Over isbreer tar jeg meg frem (Over glaciers, I make my way) I eplehagen, står møyen den vene (In the apple orchard the fair maiden stands) Og synger, når kommer du hjem? (And sings, when are you coming home?)
This probably doesn’t mean any thing but when Loki sing he sing some word in Norwegian but I’ll translate “(some gibberish)....black mountains I walk alone (something something that’s not Norwegian) in the apple garden (more gibberish).(a name maybe)when will you come home”
(Histom... /i store?) svarte fjell, jeg vandrer alene Over isbreer tar jeg meg frem I eplehagen står ... (jenten å venter?) Og synger når kommer du hjem
Silvie is a LOKI VARIANT… smh . She says “I’m not Loki ANYMORE” . She is a conflation a mash up of Silvie from the comics and Lady Loki from the comics and she chose the name Silvie to distinguish herself . - Bizzy Brown
My theory is that everything was in Loki's mind when Sylvie tries to enchant Loki. Sylvie was just trying to gain Loki's trust to enchant him in the adventure.
I think this may be more probable then the "loki takes the reins when silvie naps on the train" theory.... the style of cinematography changes in that scene for the rest of the episode. More hand-held "reality style" shakey camera shots. Not clean steady ones like all the previous episodes.
Yes, and Ryan talked so much about the other songs in the episode, but this one is so specific about the Minute girl Sylvie is trying to manipulate while they drink Margueritas: Please, forgive me, I've got *demons* in my head There's something in the water I don't like the flavour, I don't like the taste Searching for nirvana Something that'll take it all away from me
Very possibly even more than that, Sylvie enchantment did work and Loki is even aware of it. This is part of why he askes how it works. They're both playing each other, back and forth with bluffs, feeling each other out. Loki keeps hiding what he really did with the device, Sylvie keeps pressing because she suspects he's still hiding it. The whole episode is a very extended form of "I know that you know that I know that you know that I know that you know that I know..."
Or Loki enchanted Sylvie when she fell asleep. It would explain his careless behavior one she woke up. Thats who she would see him as. Meanwhile he’s trying to get her to reveal her plan. Only thing I can’t figure is if one enchanted the other, how are they getting around? Presumably if they are on a planet doomed to be destroyed that they would both still want to get off. Even if one was willing to sacrifice the other, they’d still want to keep the other around until they got that info, and they can’t just hang out and wait if they only have 12 hours or less to get off world.
@@culchiefilms1791 I don't know. But... when Sylvie touched his head and he boasted that his mind was too strong, that seemed like a set-up for a big reveal. Maybe not.
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My Theory: I just wanted to add that in endgame, when the aincient one shows the time line, it is a waving line with tiny timelines circling it. This is the multiverse and the separate events that the TVA have to reset. Also the waving line symbolizes the wavering and changing time line. That is just my theory but it might symbolize something else.
IIRC Caffrey in White Collar would do the same... when he wasn't going out of his way to Actively pretend to be a cop (usually for fun and/or to annoy Peter)
The key to this episode is when slyvie say "people are I use willing in the face of certain doom" loki either destroyed the temtab, and has the time stone) or pretended to get her in the "face of certain TVA doom" to be "willing" to tell loki what he wants to know he was killed off that train on purpose. It all part of the plan 😉.
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There was a big Moment in when Sylvia got to the TVA and try’s to use her power to control a guard but it dosnt work and she looks shocked about it. So after that she has to fight. Love the videos
That movie is only good because it progressed the storyline of thor and loki. The moments Loki had with his mother and thor were the best parts... 90% of that movie is useless filler though. Especially the dark elves and Jane plots.🙄
That was honestly my biggest takeaway from this episode. I mean it's not even subtle. Or maybe it's that overt given his gender fluidity listed in his file and the fact that he's talking to a female version of himself that is making people gloss over it. Like "Loki is a man and a woman in this series it makes sense that he'd have partners of both sexes as well. Way to go."
Sylvie said she taught herself how to do magic. Could that mean that she goes back in time to teach her younger self? Does she teach her younger self what she will need to learn and fight for? Is that also what she means by the plan being "years in the making"?
At one point before being ejected from the train Sylvie removes her crown and uses it as a weapon. I just rewatched Thor: Ragnarok and in that films final battle Loki pulls the same move- removes his helmet/crown and uses it as a weapon against Hela's army of death. Just thought it was a cool little detail to share. Thanks for making great videos!!
Loki's metaphor about "love is a dagger" reminds me of Franz Kafka's "You are the knife I turn inside myself; that is love. That, my dear, is love.” from Letters to Milena.
Loki didn't mention anything about Svartalfheim, but rather a storm on a mountain, wandering alone. That was what I gathered, Tom's Norwegian is a bit weird, but props to him for trying
Mobius might be a clone? In the comics, he was a clone. Or maybe a special variant? Idk, I think he plays a big part in the series and it hasn’t been revealed yet.
The moon after the Ark is destroyed, looks like a Death Star, with a line across the equator and large divot in the northern hemisphere. "That's no moon."
Did anyone else notice after the song, when Loki smashed the glass and demanded "ANOTHER" it was a reference to Thor drinking coffee in the diner "Another" *smash* (first Thor movie)??? I laughed out loud! That's one of my favorite Thor moments, I'm so happy they snuck that in there.
What did you think of the episode?
Lady Loki is secretly your mom
Pretty good imo
I was shocked. Honestly this show takes a different step every episode.
A bit philosophical
Unless you are watching Loki over Nord VPN and they used Deep Blue in different markets, that WAS NOT the song at the beginning.
Loki: Explains to Mobius that he is a variant.
Mobius: wow
OH YES I hope we get that line
Personally, I want him to say wow on a jet ski :)
I think it was confirmed we wont hear the iconic wow but im not totally sure
Then Sylvie goes into his head and we finally get to see a jet ski scene.
@@blazer5979 That would convince him that he really is a variant.
I just realised in episode 2 when mobius said something like "keep this up and you're going to take my job" to Loki, who is a variant, it was foreshadowing for all TVA agents being variants
Question is do any of them know it?
@@nicklemen time keeper/s and ravonna knew
@@nicklemen the 'Bosses' do... how far this trickles down to 'Middle management' is debatable... I also think Renslayer has a Team of Mobiuses (Mobii?) who obviously don't know that they are Variants or Multiples ... that's why she has souvenirs that 'our' Mobius doesn't recognize
It only means Loki was getting good with time.
I'm willing to bet that the 'other analyst' is actually a Mobius variant
Important clue, last episode Renslayer grabbed her disintegration stick when the sacred time was threatened with multiple attacks. This episode we find out though that she didn't go off to stop the branches but instead grabbed back up to head directly to protect the Time Keepers. She's more aware of what is going on, and what is really important than the others in the TVA.
I mean, she seems to be fairly high up. Makes sense that her emergency protocols are different than for the minutemen.
Its more about the accumulated evidence of Renslayer being more than just another enslaved variant at the TVA. She's more aware of what is really going on. The disintegration stick was put up on display like a trophy of past service. When chaos hit, it would be fine for her to take it up to jump back into active duty to go protect the Time Line. Sure. But her heading to the Time Keepers says something more is going on. She also grabbed back up, so she's not just going to go there to ask guidance. It collectively suggests this is not just protocol, but a intuitive reaction to the situation and what is really important to protect. Her position also puts her in the best position to screen incoming variants to pick out those that will be the most useful to wipe and put into service. The whole process leading up to the "trial" is not just there as part of the TVA's bureaucracy, its part of the screening for "employees". Those who don't follow procedures and cooperate are weeded out and summarily disintegrated. The sacred timeline is slowly being exposed as a bunch of BS, with the real revelation eventually being what is going with these "Time Keepers". Renslayer knows a lot more than anyone else shown about what is really going on.
@@brianpotter8252 I agree with the screening employees bit-I found it weird from the first episode they had any kind of judicial process at all, just not enough pieces to put together why they had it.
But it really seemed to me like she was doing what she is supposed to be doing in a situation like this. Like, I worked as a manager in a retail store. In the event of emergencies, employees had things they were supposed to do. My protocols in the same situations were different than theirs. I think the simpler explanation is that she is management, so in an emergency she had different responsibilities. With the stick and the helmet (A-23) it seems to imply she was started as a Minuteman and worked her way up.
The alternate explanation, I think, would be that she is in love with one of the Time-Keepers, that being Kang.
RIGHT! because she's headed to the same elevator that will take sylvie to the timekeepers!
@Ash Correll Literally what I said.
I just had a thought: What if all the Reset Charges and Pruning wands the TVA uses don’t actually disintegrate people, but teleport them to whatever hole they use as a Recruitment Office?
I love this theory
I second this!
Yeah, there is a difference between resetting and pruning. So far, they've been mostly talking about resetting timelines and people, but rarely pruned any.
This theory could tie in nicely with that.
I was thinking that they were turning the variants after their court hearings. So they're basically sentenced to life in the purgatory that is the TVA. They have to jump through hoops to and follow all of the TVA instructions to that point. The TVA is probably just killing people that give them a hard time because the don't want the trouble.
That's actually true🤯
Here is a translation of wha Loki sings on the train: "In stormy black mountains, i wander alone. Over the iceberg i pull myself forth. In the apple garden, stands the maiden fair. And i sing, when will you come home?"
Is he singing to his mother ?
Isn't Norwegian beautiful? :D
@@doku5412 i've been told it sounds very melodic when spoken. But there are some dialects that make that hard to believe
WHEN SHE SINGS SHE SINGS COME HOME
Fun fact: Loki says that he’s not drunk but is full and “full” means drunk in Norwegian
That's a true!
True
Nice! 😊
😂
and said he was "real full" lol.
Watch Mobius be revealed as a variant of Owen Wilson. That would be hilarious and very meta.
I’m pretty sure you mean Owen Bohner
*owen wilson voice* Wow
Blind Wave said the same thing.
I was thinking he would end up being also another Loki lol
WOW!
I think he faked breaking the TVA teleporter device so he could learn more about her.
I was waiting for him to casually pull out the TVA device with a full battery at the end
He has infinity stones, they’ll use them
Its possible maybe he did it to try to save the people of the planet as when he pulls out the broken tempad his plan is to hijack the Ark and get it off the planet which will save those people.
Why
That’s what I was thinking during the episode
Skipping over my biggest question: who has enchanted who? Seems like Loki has enchanted Sylvie, or is trying to, and nothing after they talk on the train is real. She wakes up, Loki isn't in the same clothes, he's singing a song that breaks down into a lullaby for a second, and he's asking her for more info on enchantment. She also says that with the stronger ones you create the enchantment from their memory, but they're there too. Loki doesn't know Lamentis 1, but Sylvie has been there before, so it's her memory. Also, yeah, Loki can't just flip buildings, so either he nabbed the time stone, or he's just letting his ego inflate his powers in the enchantment.
Oddly, this reminds me of people's imaginations when they tried to come up with explanations for Mass Effect 3's ending. I get the feeling we will be similarly disappointed.
this is plausible.
note that after the event silvie even more open to loki.
this is just a scheme he try to look inside her.
Yeah totally! Everything is an illusion after she gets up from her nap… to give away is the purposefully poorly aimed dagger
I don't think it's the time stone or else he could have just reversed the ark destruction
The illusion theory is good though as they were thrown out the windows in quite a comic unrealistic way
My theory is that Loki did not act stupid and destroy the tecpad. Two possible theories are:
1. He wanted to test sylvie to find out how much he can trust her because he has a much more mischievous plan in mind involving her
2. More preferably, loki is able to finally use the power of enchantment himself and he put sylvie in a dream state where all these events happen in her mind while in the train. A big clue to that sylvie is seen sleeping right before Loki's song when she had already made clear she won't rest with loki around. Also explains loki being able to push back the whole building with his mind but failed to fend off a guard throwing him out of a train
This is what I thought too when I saw it happen. No way he’s that dumb
Your skipped right over the part where she clearly says she is a Loki but doesn't go by that name anymore.
True, but remember that he is theorizing that the entire episode was in Loki's mind, a creation by Enchantress. I guess we'll see.
So either silvie illusions Loki or loki illusions silvie and the portal jumper is just fine. (Thats what i think.
Comics Sylvie is a creation of Loki and technically cam be a Loki, depending on how they go about it. I think his discussion between the two powers from the previous episode is a big clue about the whole thing.
he always does. his entire channel is garbage based on wild speculation and usually misses every single actual important point.
@@billyt8868 lol "every single" you probably can't even fathom the amount of work he puts into every video and you want him to be perfect. Dude's trying to make a living by entertaining us and you're shitting on him because.... why?
The contrasting colours & the neon backgrounds are a delight to watch in this episode .
Yes I was waiting for someone to mention the cinematography! The scene near the end where it was mostly shot in one take was extremely impressive as well!
My theory is that she's not a frost Giant like the main Loki, instead she's an Asgardian taken in by the frost Giants. That's why her hair matches the rest of Thor's family, and why her up bringing was so different. Also why she always knew she was adopted.
The different colour hair thing is a good point, it sure has been used before!
or she might not even be a frost giant or Asgardian to begin with but a normal human gifted the powers of silf by loki like how her namesake was in the comics.
How would that work? She’s just a variant of the loki we know from the mcu so her origin should be the same.
i like that
@@bigdon9999 hince why the tva is after her
“Clearly Sylvie had a relationship with Stan Lee”
There’s also a postman on WandaVision, and we’re still wondering who the witness was.
I just checked. There's an interview where the WandaVision director says there is an answer to who the witness was, but "hang in there," LMAO. Guess we'll find out in a year or two.
Maybe Sylvie is pregnant. She avoided alcohol on the train and briefly discussed a relationship she had with a man.
@@adriashelton3639 kid loki origin story
My first thought was the character in the novel The Postman by David Brin (Movie with/by Kevin Costner). He was in an apocalyptic world... Probably wrong.
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My hypothesis: The moment Sylvie sleeps on the train, Loki uses her own powers against her and creates a dream world to convince her to tell him all he wants. The next episode will start with Loki and Sylvie talking, and when she spills all the beans on her motivation and plan, they wake up back on the train, in time to save themselves. This explains the abrupt scene change to the foolish song of Loki, the strange powers he exhibits and gives a way out to the two of them. Too far fetched?
I though that maybe the broken trans-pad is an illusion from Loki to trick Sylvie
yo write for Marvel now
@@TheLozzyloo Yeah so i wonder , after Sylvia get to sleep, Loki charge the Pad and act as drunk, get thrown out the train. Act like the Pad is destroyed so he could get more info from Sylvia like info that agents are people? Because Loki getting drunk? He is not like Thor. Its one of his tricks.
I don't think you can legally say "Timey-Whimey" with out watching Dr Who...
Seriously! The Judoon should arrest him. :p
I think it's only illegal if you add 'Wibbly Wobbly'
my thoughts exactly ! i was like if you say "timey-whimey" now you got to watch dr who !
Exactly what I thought when I heard him say that.
What's next? This dood gonna pop a "wibbly wobbly" on us? Like it's no big deal?
I think this whole episode is Loki doing his own enchantment on Sylvie. He never said he couldn't do it...he said it was for amateurs. I think he is doing all of this so that she will fear dying and help him get what he wants, along with get to know her more so he can defeat her in the end. He has the battery safe and sound...the broken one was all pretend! Enchantress loki...mischievous scamp!
I believe this. A lot of ppl think Sylvie is enchanting him since she touched him. But big plot twist: it’s Loki the entire time lol
@@zeafreethinker "it was loki all along."
@@rachit *laufeyson
@@zeafreethinker also her enchantment seems to "malfunction" as it twitches and such
yoooo remember when loki did that thing to valkyrie? 👀 maybe it’s kinda the same thing? idk i’m kinda dumb tho so
Ryan: "I've never watched Doctor Who
Also Ryan: "timey wimey"
Yeah, I caught that too.
Yes
@Rylee Ferguson that's a direct quote from Dr Who though so..... 🤷♂️
It’s kind of become a common phrase, really. I don’t think you have to watch the show to know the phrase.
Plot twist: Sylvie is controlling his mind and all this is to find where Loki hid the thingamabob.
Double plot twist: Loki didn't actually break the thing, it's just a projection.
Triple plot twist: it's just a projection of Loki this whole time from the mall scene, coz there's that scene where Loki explains hologram and astro projection. That could be relevant.
Quadruple plot twist: Sylvie is an illusion created by Loki of the future to train Loki of the present to become the new time keeper, which he eventually becomes in the future. (Not likely)
Quadruple plot twist pro max : I am actually in fact Loki, who's mind was erased and sent to earth to be imprisoned in the mind of a sorry ass man. (100% plausible)
Quadriple plot twist pro max S+ : Loki has all the infinity stones and is just messing around.
@@DLCS-2 Quadruple plot twist pro max S+ Shiny Mega Charizard X: No idea, I just wanted to extrapolate the plot twist thing lmao
Quintuple plot twist Ex-Machina: The Time Lords are Loki Variants as well!
😂 So good. You should write for Marvel . 😂
Are y'all excited for episode 4??
Finally, someone talks about how the fight scenes don’t make sense.
It does make sense ,because if Loki is not nerfed ,then there would be no fight scenes ,he’s gonna one shot everything ,and everyone ,and people would be like those dumb asses whom will scream like crybabies ,oh Loki is too overpowered ,just like they did to Captain Marvel ,either accept it or just don’t watch the series ,watch something else ,LOL !😂😂
@@fahimalfaisal7781 yeah Loki was nerfed and therefore the fight scenes make no sense. Because how would he be “nerfed” in the show. It’s just for production
the fight choreography budget went straight to falcon and the winter soldier
@@trevorkinzie4267 why the fight sequences were great ,everyone is praising them ,WTF ?LOL ,were you smoking weed or something ?😂😂😂
He did say he desperately needed sleep, but instead of sleeping, he started drinking...so maybe that is the explanation for why he is nerfed.
When he stopped the building from crushing them i screamed ‘when tf did he learn to do that’?!?!
Yeah, I had that reaction, then I re-watched it like 3 times. He does the doctor strange cross of the hands that was used before activating the timestone, then brought his hands down. It was very similar to the motions used for the timestone, with no "push" that has been shown with other telekinetic powers. It seems to heavily imply the timestone was used.
@@ryanmeade1423 i presume that loki might have "grabbed" some stones that were in the drawer , bc it might explain some stuff.
I might have to rewatch Thor The Dark World but I’m 80% certain that Loki had pushed around objects after he heard that Frigga was killed.
Edit: Yep. He did TK push chairs outward. It's 51 minutes and 51 seconds in Thor The Dark World.
I thought he also had telekinesis powers? Like in Thor the dark world they show it
@@nataliac9677 the problem was that he was so underpowered and unutilized in ragnarok as much as I loved it.
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Heavy Spoilers review spoofed me this morning....I was like the opener got me for reals. I was looking at the channel again to check to make sure I was on Heavy Spoilers and not.Screen Crush. So funny
I love those channels so much. Their friendly banter are awesome to watch lol
This whole episode is orchestrated by loki in order to learn more about sylvie. The thing isnt out of batterys, thats an illusion. The fight with the guards, an easy win. He is prolonging everything by pretending hes weaker than he is. Even the transformation to trick the old woman is a bluff designed to make him seem a fool. His drunken stupor creating fireworks instead of a ticket, an allusion meant to throw more belief to the broken time majigger. If he truly dies have the timestone he could easily revert the device back to when it held a charge. He doubts she is a loki because of her lack of ambition to anything other than killing the timegods. I hope im right that hes leading ger around cause it makes all his dopey moments make sense
I like this and it would honestly make so much sense and would be better. But I'm not gonna hope too much because maybe the writers just decided to nerf him
@@Girl-di5dg they definitely nerfed him to seem more relatable and likeable. They nerfed is mischiefness as well. 2012 loki was very menacing but i guess they aged him to Endgame Loki when they showed all his history to himself.
I'm inclined to agree the broken timepad is a ruse. It's just exactly the sort of thing he would do, even if only to get Sylvie to quit fighting him for it.
Also, the part when Loki stop a building to fall is the kind of weird event that could look normal to eyes of Sylvie since she doesn't know the exact nature of Loki's powers, but to us is a big clue that things doesn't are what it seems.
@@mandramas I literally was thinking the same!!! Y can’t he just do that to the moon.....
OMG thank you for referencing Agents of Shield - such an underrated excellent Show.
ScreenCrush: "I've never seen Doctor Who"
Also ScreenCrush: "Timey-wimey"
I came here to say this
@@DarthRaptor22 I came here to say "I came here to say this"
When Sylvie said the workers of the TVA were Variants, I was like: Screen Crush was right the WHOLE TIME!!!
It was Ryan all along
The “Postman” ties back into the mystery mail carrier in Wandavision!
Willie Lumpkin in Fantastic 4. ;)
That would be amazing
I read someone say the broken TemPad was an illusion by Loki. He just wanted a chance to get more dirt on Sylvie.
That was my first thought while watching. He got her to explain her power after that.
Que: How to find timekeepers?
Ans: Gold elevators.
and Sylvie was almost there. and I don't think A-23 was there because she found them but her first instinct was to guard the gold
elevators.
Good one
I also think that when they found the agent whom Sylvie had enchanted, she said that she gave away on how to find the time keepers. Maybe the give away was the words "Gold Elevators" 😉
@@zebaansari2859 😀
I practically teared up when you told us the “Hudson & Hicks” Aliens references (kinda a big James Cameron fan). RIP Bill Paxton.
I think Loki was testing her knowledge and her background. One thing I think he purposely did was the drunk Norwegian song scene. To see her reaction to it. So see was she actually Asgardian
The Third incarnation of the Doctor was portrayed by actor Jon Pertwee 1970 to 1974, his Doctor was stuck on earth and became a scientific advisor for UNIT. Later iterations portrayed by other actors helped UNIT from time to time. The show was revived by Russell T Davies in 2005 with Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor and stories were condensed from multiple episode stories to single episode stories and are much easier to watch if you are new to Doctor Who. I was introduced to Doctor Who as a kid with the 4th Doctor, Tom Baker, who will always be my favorite but I love all the new episodes too. Especially David Tenant, when the show hit its stride. David portrayed a Doctor who had a dark side, just below his happy go lucky exterior. Masterful.
Loki the villain, was quite in love with himself. I think that we will see Loki fall in love with Sylvie (himself) and that we will get to watch her die in front of Loki in a few shows; likely erased by a TVA Agent. It will truly make Loki's metaphor about love being a dagger a truth, to him.
Or it will be another fake death, an illusion like he pulled in the dark world. Ties in with the “imaginary dagger” metaphor
loki hated himself, he was going through the absolute worst identity crisis
Hi, the reason why Loki was able to stop the *falling building (*is also a callback to Time Bandits, rip/ wb Fidget!) because this is a dream sequence and Sylvie is still sleeping as Loki learned to charm her just by her describing how she does it. I think the pad is also not destroyed and was an illusion like the whole train ride and what follows. The both of them walking to the city gave me "The Wiz" vibes. He may be charming her to figure out a way to fix the pad and escape. I also think maybe Loki didn't want to kill TVA agents and was holding back because he realized earlier by speaking to Mobius that they might be variants too, but he got that confirmed by **Sylvie later. Okay, last one... "POST-MAN", think like, what's past a man...an old man. Stan Lee is old, so you were so close! OLD MAN LOKI CONFIRMED! ** Sylvie is fighting to kill because she is being manipulated by ***Old man Loki and feels the TVA are evil and they all need to die. Lots of manipulations afoot! *** Old man Loki is probably seeking those ultimate time powers from the TVA so that he can finally rule.
In the Thor: The Dark World, when Loki finds out about Frigga's death and destroys his cell, it does seem that he has some telekinetic ability when the furniture goes flying around the room. That could explain how he stopped that pillar from falling.
I love seeing you and Heavy spoilers connect each other while you guys are doing your own thing. That makes me happy. Thanks lol also keep up the freaking amazing videos man!
Is it strange that Sylvie said she couldn't sleep there, but in next scene she is waking up. Is Loki enchanting her?
Nah she trust Loki 👀
Sylvie has actually successfully enchanted Loki! Perhaps.
I think Loki is some how playing her. Probably earning her trust and seeing what her plans are. No way he doesn't have a plan.
@@mrdingles5107 loki could be simping cause his whole world got rocked tho
@@ZendelWashington naw doubt it. Buuut what I was thinking, she could be enchanting him and using his own cockiness against him making him think he has the edge. If you catch my drift. Or last scenario time whatever police are going to show and essentially they escape the planet before its destruction.
Finally been waiting all day 😁😁
As far as the action goes, I've really liked what I've seen so far. I feel like both characters are holding back magically, because tricksters never reveal everything. They're still clearly feeling each other out and don't want the other to know what the other has up their sleeves. Also, we've seen our Loki choose physical violence over magical violence time and time again throughout the movies, it shouldn't be any surprise that he's not just using his magic to fool everyone all the time.
"Where there are wolves ears the teeth are near." This whole episode is foretold in the tent scene by Loki in episode 2. He's playing her. "Drunk with power. Those you underestimate will devour you...easy to manipulate." Loki said it all.
Fun fact "American Gothic" depicts a father and his daughter.
But everyone thinks it's his wife.
Grant Wood intended for them to appear as father and daughter, but the models were actually Wood's sister and his dentist. It was painted a mile away from where I live in Cedar Rapids, so everyone in town knows some Gothic lore.
Does this mean that Sylvie is a variant of Loki's mother ??? 😱🤯
@@shoWbitz No. Your mom.
@@bytemaster 🤣
@PIXEL GLITCH except that... you're wrong.
I think there's a reason a lot of the action is off: I think potentially Everything that happened from some time after they fell through to portal to Lamentis, either Sylvie is in Loki's head gathering information or Loki is in Sylvie's head doing that to her, and nothing that happened on Lamentis really happened
I think it's real up to the point when Sylvie falls asleep.
This whole 'excursion' will turn out to be her in his mind trying to enchant him...
That would suck
This was the first thing I thought. They open the episode showing how she enchants people to get info, she 'tries' it on him, and near the end they even come back to give more detail (weak minds vs strong).
This is exactly what I was thinking. She even talks about needing to create fake scenarios in people’s heads that are stronger minded. Also, Loki never has been shown to have the power to reverse the falling tower, but he could be able to manipulate the fake reality in his head. Also also, the fight on the train should have been much easier for them being super-powered. Loki getting thrown out of the train like that wouldn’t have happened when he has his powers.
@@RyantheLegoBrick That's what I thought - and it makes sense why Loki didn't use his powers in the fights because she doesn't know what powers he has (or magic, I guess).
I thought that too and I was thinking it would be revealed at the end of episode
Here’s my thought, Loki projected the dead battery in the TemPad in order to put Sylvie in a corner where he can get information he wants from her. His actual plan is to make things hopeless so she divulges everything about who she is and her plan so he can either help her or destroy her, depending on how much he likes her plan.
Getting beat by the Lamentis guards is part of the plan. He’s not this bumbling, he’s just being so in order to make her frustrated and hopeless.
Great video! First time watcher and appreciate that you point out Easter eggs you missed or site other ones other creators pointed out. True academic honesty. Appreciate it!
Can we talk about how the breaking moon looks like Pacman about to eat Lament-1?
Thank you!
Yes, a call back to GofG2 when Star Lord becomes a giant pacman to "eat" ego!
lol i thought that too
They're on the moon. The thing about to hit them is the planet.
Loki : we're going to live
Sylvia : How are you so sure?
Loki : Because Marvel already announced Loki season 2 and a cameo in Doctor strange 2
Yessssssssss...
Either the TVA will show up last minute or Loki has the time stone and let things get this far because he was *ahem* playing for time to try to figure Sylvie out.
That wouldn’t be a far fetch considering loki could literally take any one of the “paper weights” into the real world because TVA has such a terrible security lol
mcu is clearly trying to move away from infinity stones i would be shocked if they pivot any plot on the time stone. seems more likely that he just…. faked that the time device (whatever it’s called) was broken so he could put her through all that stress and get her to share personal info. she didn’t open up at all until then. alternatively TVA could show up but that paints sylvia and loki as insanely incompetent and needing saving. either way i think mcu is done with infinity stones. could be wrong.
Or maybe he has the space stone while we are at it
Loki after all always tried to get the tesseract into his hands a lot of the time throughout the MCU, maybe he can use it to teleport himself and sylvie out of there
@@merzarino It was stated somewhere that Infinity Stones are useless outside of their own reality
@@aldesalOG i dont remember hearing that part tho, what about endgame. The stones were still functioning outside of their respective reality.
Loki uses the Time Stone around 35:20 into the episode when he rewinds the falling building.
This becomes clear because at the beginning of this we learn that his powers are simply illusions. How did he just move something with his mind otherwise?
The opening song is different in Australia! its Hayley Kiyoko's song Demons here :)
This ep in particular was FULL Doctor Who.
And Ryan never watched Doctor Who. So disappointed.
You mean it's shit?
Omg yes, I thought that too
@@odinoldman1324 edgy
@@jayel1471 it is shit
The part that everyone keeps saying he is using the time stone for has a much simpler explanation. The building coming down was part of an illusion. Loki did not want Enchantress Loki to notice it when they felt nothing as the building crashed around them. This entire episode is a mental chess game between the two of them. You can't trust anything you see.
I couldn’t agree more. Most part of this episode shall be the illusion created by one of the Lokis. Otherwise they can’t explain all those unreasonable details.
@@donotpissmeoff Word. My money is on Hiddleston Loki. Buying time to draw Sylvie's plan and motivation out.
It makes sense because Loki studied a bunch of Nexus events and would know to recreate this one !
He may have used Telekinesis because it is one of his powers, you see him use it in Thor 2 when he destroys his prison cell there isn’t any flash of green when he dose it in Thor 2 similar to the scene in the show. The comics show him using the same power so it’s realistic for the writers to put it in there.
Her saying she “barley remembers” her mother doesn’t mean her mother didn’t raise her, it just means that it’s been so long since she’s been in contact with her mother that it’s barley a dream to her. She’s been on the run from the villains at the TVA for hundreds of years.
Either that or the TVA erased her memories of her mother and she has barley gotten any of them back.
@@wsconsn I was just thinking maybe her mum died or just wasn't around at a very young age so much so that can barely remember her as she was just a baby or very young
@@geo4408 that’s what was meant to be portrayed, but when has Loki or Enchantress ever been that straight forward?
I was kind of right.
Thoroughly enjoy the random jokes you throw in there. They catch me off guard and I love it
Seems to me like the whole episode takes place in Sylvie's mind as Loki has done to her what she did to the TVA agent at the beginning. He's used her memories to construct a scenario where they can bond and allow her to spill the beans on her plan.
Another Doctor Who link, Paul Cornell is a pretty big contributor to the franchise both in print media and the show itself, including the episode Father's Day, which explores timelines going wrong.
I think you got the song at the of the episode mixed up. It’s actually called ‘Demons’ by Hayley Kiyoko.
It is, but at the end credits it does mention Deep Blue
I think the episode started off with 'demons' and ended with 'dark moon' and the one Loki's singing is deep blue?
Pretty sure Sylvie was talking about the the "Don't shoot the messanger" guy from Wandavision.
That would make zero sense.
That makes no sense at all whatsoever
Yeah that’s a reach
Loki: You lack “vision”
Director Heyward: if only you had more, “vision”
Wanda: I _had_ Vision! T_T
6:00 CASSIE!! They better not kill her off, like they did in the comics!
Loki having a Time Stone seems very likely... when he pushed that building back, even the dust from it crumbling went in reverse (very sutil, masked by other dust NOT from that building).
Loki in love with the female version of himself
@@itsbeedie I think they just combined the two characters
Lean Vu Pretty sure they’ve pointed out an Easter egg in episode 2 where a file has her name on it: Sylvie Laufeydottir. She’s Loki.
He could love no else but himself so it makes sense he may feel something for another version of himself lol
Honestly sounds like a very Loki thing to do.
@@magentalane27 The TVA thinks lady loki is a dude wdym
Loki used telekinetic powers to grab that roomba in the last episode.
Exactly he even does it in dark world this was just on a new level
no one noticed that the moon cracking in half looks like a death star! look at it!!
Lyrics and translation from Norwegian of Loki’s song:
I stormsvarte fjell, jeg vandrer alene.
(In stormy, black mountains, I walk alone)
Over isbreer tar jeg meg frem
(Over glaciers, I make my way)
I eplehagen, står møyen den vene
(In the apple orchard the fair maiden stands)
Og synger, når kommer du hjem?
(And sings, when are you coming home?)
This probably doesn’t mean any thing but when Loki sing he sing some word in Norwegian but I’ll translate “(some gibberish)....black mountains I walk alone (something something that’s not Norwegian) in the apple garden (more gibberish).(a name maybe)when will you come home”
(Histom... /i store?) svarte fjell, jeg vandrer alene
Over isbreer tar jeg meg frem
I eplehagen står ... (jenten å venter?)
Og synger når kommer du hjem
sounds like tom hiddleston's pronunciation was pretty good then for you be able to decipher it even in song
@@hiatusinc it was horrible
@@xboxx360halo3 Oh. My bad lol
@@hiatusinc yeah pretty shit to be honest
Yessss it’s a good day when screen crunch uploads anything about loki
Like the Heavy Spoilers shoutouts!! Not only does Paul have great info, but he’s hilarious, especially if you enjoy terrible puns!!
That bar mindgame scene was expertly produced. Brilliant 1.5 min of writing.
Imagine it turns out that Mobius is actually a variant of Howard Stark, I mean they do look really similar.
🤦🏻♂️
Silvie is a LOKI VARIANT… smh . She says “I’m not Loki ANYMORE” . She is a conflation a mash up of Silvie from the comics and Lady Loki from the comics and she chose the name Silvie to distinguish herself . - Bizzy Brown
My theory is that everything was in Loki's mind when Sylvie tries to enchant Loki.
Sylvie was just trying to gain Loki's trust to enchant him in the adventure.
I think this may be more probable then the "loki takes the reins when silvie naps on the train" theory.... the style of cinematography changes in that scene for the rest of the episode. More hand-held "reality style" shakey camera shots. Not clean steady ones like all the previous episodes.
Lamentis: gets destroyed
Lamenters: first time?
I'm digging the fun jabs back and forth between Screen rush and Heavy Spoilers 🤣
DEMONS BY HAYLEY KIYOKO PLAYED IN THE BEGINNING OF Loki EPISODE 3. It’s one of my favorite songs by the way lol.💗💜💙
And Ladytron is one of my favs! And that wasn't it.
Yes, and Ryan talked so much about the other songs in the episode, but this one is so specific about the Minute girl Sylvie is trying to manipulate while they drink Margueritas:
Please, forgive me, I've got *demons* in my head
There's something in the water
I don't like the flavour, I don't like the taste
Searching for nirvana
Something that'll take it all away from me
Says his whovian lore is lacking, also says timey-wimey...HMMMM
Here's a theory: Sylvie's enchantment DID work on Loki and everything that happened AFTER is just her illusion.
Because of what lady Loki did to the other TVs variant, this would make a lot of sense.
Very possibly even more than that, Sylvie enchantment did work and Loki is even aware of it. This is part of why he askes how it works. They're both playing each other, back and forth with bluffs, feeling each other out. Loki keeps hiding what he really did with the device, Sylvie keeps pressing because she suspects he's still hiding it. The whole episode is a very extended form of "I know that you know that I know that you know that I know that you know that I know..."
Or Loki enchanted Sylvie when she fell asleep. It would explain his careless behavior one she woke up. Thats who she would see him as. Meanwhile he’s trying to get her to reveal her plan.
Only thing I can’t figure is if one enchanted the other, how are they getting around? Presumably if they are on a planet doomed to be destroyed that they would both still want to get off. Even if one was willing to sacrifice the other, they’d still want to keep the other around until they got that info, and they can’t just hang out and wait if they only have 12 hours or less to get off world.
I like it but what would be the purpose?
@@culchiefilms1791 I don't know. But... when Sylvie touched his head and he boasted that his mind was too strong, that seemed like a set-up for a big reveal. Maybe not.
I love the relation you, heavy spoilers and new rockstars have with each other. Some healthy competition and not afraid to admit you’re all doing exactly the same thing. I still watch all of you
9:39 “I can’t sit backwards on a train” is paying homage to a scene from Mad About You, where Paul Reiser’s character says the same line.
Mobious will appear since he'll be looking for both Lokis hiding in all the major catastrophes throughout the timeline.
My Theory: I just wanted to add that in endgame, when the aincient one shows the time line, it is a waving line with tiny timelines circling it. This is the multiverse and the separate events that the TVA have to reset. Also the waving line symbolizes the wavering and changing time line. That is just my theory but it might symbolize something else.
Reference: Loki referred to as a consultant: Patrick Jane, "The Mentalist", usually make the same statement when asked about join the cops.
IIRC Caffrey in White Collar would do the same... when he wasn't going out of his way to Actively pretend to be a cop (usually for fun and/or to annoy Peter)
Sherlock Holmes in certain variations, too.
When Sylvie said that the TVA agents were variants, you were the first person I thought of. "He was right!" I said to myself. Nice work, Ryan!
you are the only marvel TH-camr who actually acknowledge agents of shield's existence and I really admire you for that :)
I think she is Loki's kid just by the way she asked about her grandma
Oh god I hope not, he’s clearly flirting with her this episode 🤮
@@shisah5544 wouldn't that be fun to see their reaction!
I don't think she is flirting but I agree he is 🤣
The key to this episode is when slyvie say "people are I use willing in the face of certain doom" loki either destroyed the temtab, and has the time stone) or pretended to get her in the "face of certain TVA doom" to be "willing" to tell loki what he wants to know he was killed off that train on purpose. It all part of the plan 😉.
Yeah, at the beginning of the next episode she's going to spill her guts bc she thinks it's over. And then he'll show his hand.
ScreenCrush: Heavy spoiler missed that because he sucks.
Heavy Spoiler: 👁👄👁
is it an inside joke or is he fr ?
@@tigrispanthera5496 he says it for fun 😂🤣😅
@@tigrispanthera5496 inside joke probably if you watch Heavy Spoiler's breakdown on ep 3 he opens his video with the Screen Crush intro as a joke
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There was a big Moment in when Sylvia got to the TVA and try’s to use her power to control a guard but it dosnt work and she looks shocked about it. So after that she has to fight.
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Oh and I will die on the hill that Thor The Dark World, while not a great movie, wasn't a bad one.
Absolutely agree.
That movie is only good because it progressed the storyline of thor and loki. The moments Loki had with his mother and thor were the best parts... 90% of that movie is useless filler though. Especially the dark elves and Jane plots.🙄
It's barely watchable upon repeat viewings
Nobody said anything about Loki confirming that he's bisexual, when Sylvie asks about the princess. Well in his file it states he's gender fluid.
That was honestly my biggest takeaway from this episode. I mean it's not even subtle. Or maybe it's that overt given his gender fluidity listed in his file and the fact that he's talking to a female version of himself that is making people gloss over it. Like "Loki is a man and a woman in this series it makes sense that he'd have partners of both sexes as well. Way to go."
He spend to much time with his mother and hating his father
I was expecting a confession of Loki fell in love with Thor all this time 😂
@@victorpena5217 indeed I think he's falling in love with himself/his female version
He’s listed as Fluid under the category Sex.
Sylvie said she taught herself how to do magic. Could that mean that she goes back in time to teach her younger self? Does she teach her younger self what she will need to learn and fight for? Is that also what she means by the plan being "years in the making"?
At one point before being ejected from the train Sylvie removes her crown and uses it as a weapon. I just rewatched Thor: Ragnarok and in that films final battle Loki pulls the same move- removes his helmet/crown and uses it as a weapon against Hela's army of death. Just thought it was a cool little detail to share. Thanks for making great videos!!
Loki's metaphor about "love is a dagger" reminds me of Franz Kafka's "You are the knife I turn inside myself; that is love. That, my dear, is love.” from Letters to Milena.
Loki didn't mention anything about Svartalfheim, but rather a storm on a mountain, wandering alone. That was what I gathered, Tom's Norwegian is a bit weird, but props to him for trying
Everyone but Mobius is a variant. It's his name. All other guards etc.. have numbers.
is mobius brother of Michael morbius? lol
Mobius is an investigator, not a guard, so he has a name.
Mobius might be a clone? In the comics, he was a clone. Or maybe a special variant? Idk, I think he plays a big part in the series and it hasn’t been revealed yet.
The moon after the Ark is destroyed, looks like a Death Star, with a line across the equator and large divot in the northern hemisphere. "That's no moon."
You're right, I was thinking the exact same thing, loki has super strenght and durability, yet it just looks like a clumsy fight
Did anyone else notice after the song, when Loki smashed the glass and demanded "ANOTHER" it was a reference to Thor drinking coffee in the diner "Another" *smash* (first Thor movie)??? I laughed out loud! That's one of my favorite Thor moments, I'm so happy they snuck that in there.